Re: Utility for safe updating of ports in base system

2008-03-20 Thread Sticky Bit
The real question is: ports or packages? Please do not mix them together!

If we are talking about ports and ports updating then portmaster is (now) an 
excellent candidate for this job and I vote for portmaster.

If we are talking about packages and package management then portmaster and 
all other ports updating tools are of course out of context. They are ports 
management tools - not - package management tools.

So please change

http://www.freebsd.org/projects/ideas/index.html#p-ports-upgrade

The project idea is called 'Utility for safe updating of ports in base 
system'. The jobs description is false because of using 'pkg_*' but 
meaning 'port*'. And it really looks just like a request for rewrite 
portupgrade in C and to put this rewritten portupgrade in base. I strongly 
vote against it!

The entry 'Package tools improvements'

http://www.freebsd.org/projects/ideas/index.html#p-ports-pkgtools

 should be extended / rewritten for a new package management tool (/framework) 
idea. Michel Talon had described such a tool.

So we are actually talking about two different things ...

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[KDE / QT FreeBSD users] CALL FOR HELPERS: Please contribute to the project! Thanks!

2008-06-18 Thread Sticky Bit
Dear KDE / QT on FreeBSD users,

we need your help! Yes, -your- help! Why? Please read more ...

I would not write this mail if everything was fine with KDE on FreeBSD. This 
is a gently but urgent request for help.

Main problem is there are not enough contributors at the moment. This is 
really urgent because the whole 'KDE on FreeBSD' project is moving very 
slowly right now. This situation will not change until more users start to 
help us. Such a big task like porting and maintaining KDE on FreeBSD requires 
a huge amount of resources. But the project does not have enough responsive 
testers and contributors. We also need long term contributors and active 
maintainers.

You asked yourself why there is no update of KDE 3 ports to latest stable 
3.5.9 which were released months ago? You asked yourself why you are not able 
to dive into the exiting new world of KDE 4 on FreeBSD because there is no 
KDE 4 within FreeBSD ports tree yet? There are simply not enough 
contributors! You want these tasks to be done? Fine! But then please help.

Only very few contributors are working on it at the moment. miwi@ is one of 
those. He did and does a very good job - also often in the background and not 
really noticed. He has already done a great work in porting KDE 4 to FreeBSD. 
But there is so much much more to do and he cannot do it all alone.

If you have some free space on your disk, some time to spent and you are 
familiar with the ports tree then I ask you to contribute! No special skills 
required!

First create a new user account just for testing purposes so your /home/.kde 
etc will not be touched when you run KDE 4. Checkout the area51 repository 
(see below). Then update QT4 first. Then build the KDE 4 ports you want. Log 
the builds and runtime tests of those ports. See http://wiki.freebsd.org/KDE4 
for known problems. Report all (unknown) problems or bugs with full logs (e. 
g. post the logs at http://nopaste.unixfreunde.de/ ) and some details at 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

It is really that easy! You can do something like this:

# cvs -d:ext:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/kde-freebsd co area51

# mount -t unionfs /path/to/area51 /usr/ports

Thanks to unionfs - which runs pretty well these days / RELENG7 - there is no 
risk for your original ports tree. Just do

# umount /usr/ports

and you can use it like before.

Questions? Bug reports? Something else? Please subscribe to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] at

https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-freebsd

and mail your questions, answers, bugs, logs, etc. You can also search the 
archives.

Remember: You can really help! Please contribute! You are very welcome! 
Thanks! Thanks! Thanks!

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Re: xfce 4.4 RC1 - patchset 06

2006-09-28 Thread Sticky Bit
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Hello,

just applied your new patchset with a clean portstree and now getting
new errors (patchset 05 worked fine for me).

> - installation in LOCALBASE instead of X11BASE

There are some problems with it. Stale leftovers under /usr/X11R6
directories and incompleted movements:

1.) Missing icons mentioned by xfce warning messages so I manually had to do

# cp -r /usr/X11R6/share/icons/* /usr/local/share/icons
# cp -r /usr/X11R6/share/pixmaps/* /usr/local/share/pixmaps

2.) I also noticed some disappearing apps in menu. So I had to do

# cp -r /usr/X11R6/share/applications/* /usr/local/share/applications

Now this - seems - to work as usual. But there are still much xfce
leftovers (directories and files) under /usr/X11R6/

3.) Now I got errors while trying to compile

/misc/xfce4-weather-plugin

and

/deskutils/orage

with patchset 06:

a) xfce4-weather-plugin-0.5.99.1 cannot install: unknown component glib.
Error code 1
Stop in ...

Modified Makefile: changed 'glib' into 'glib20' and that did the trick.

But then next error with both ports occured:

b) libtool: link: cannot find the library
'/usr/X11R6/lib/libxfcegui4.la' or unhandled argument
'/usr/X11R6/lib/libxfcegui4.la'
Error code 2
Stop in ...

Could not try more for this morning.

Bye
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Re: xfce 4.4 RC1 - patchset 06

2006-09-28 Thread Sticky Bit
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> Are you sure you deinstalled all previous xfce components which where
> installed below /usr/X11R6 in the past before installing the new ones?

Deinstalled all xfce stuff using 'pkg_deinstall' then installed the new
ones. I was sure all components were deinstalled but it seems I have
missed something or something was not done right.

Now I did it again using 'make deinstall clean' and I manually removed
all old xfce leftovers in /usr/X11R6. Now double checked. Then really
cleanly installed the new ones.

And now ... it mostly seems to works. Sorry for any incommodities!

Only the weather-plugin is not working:

- - cannot update weather data

Console message: ** (xfce4-weather-plugin:PID): WARNING **: Weather
Plugin: No image found

What could it be?

Thanks!
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Thank you for portmaster

2007-03-20 Thread Sticky Bit
Hello,

first let me thank you for developing such a nice tool! After so long
time using portupgrade I gave portmaster a chance to convince me in
daily usage. Now I am very happy with this decision and I begin to
really like portmaster.

One feature I would like to see implemented is a switch 'list only ports
that have available updates'. I want to know all affected ports in
summary before the builds so I am able to make decisions (i.e.
'portmaster -a' or just 'portmaster port', and think of the
'devel/gettext' update or other huge / long builds like gnome / gtk+ etc.).

I am aware of the '-L' switch and the possibility to grep such ports.
But this is a bit odd and not very likable. I want a similar output like
'portversion -vL=', i.e. port name along with old and new version
numbering but only for ports with a different version available than
installed (can also be an older version, think of a manually modified
ports tree).

Could you please add this small feature? Then I am actually able to do
without portupgrade and its other tools.

Thank you in advance!

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Re: Thank you for portmaster

2007-03-21 Thread Sticky Bit
> Read the man pages for pkg_info, pkg_add, pkg_version, and pkg_delete, to 
> see all the things you can do with the ports/packages system.  Those, 
> combined with portmaster, make for an excellent little ports toolkit.

I am using FreeBSD for several years. I really know these tools very
well and I already know what I want. They are part of my daily usage. So
no help needed. ;-)

Maybe you did not understand my intention. It is not a matter of what
can be done with other tools but what can be done with portmaster. It
was only a feature suggestion to improve portmaster not a request for
help. Hope that makes it clear ...

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