Re: FreeBSD Port: gtkyahoo-0.18.3_4

2008-10-23 Thread Tim Clewlow

> I installed the package of this port.
> Did a rehash from the command line and then startx.
> Can't find it in the gnome desktop.
> What should I do?

The sourceforge page for this project says "GTKyahoo project was
closed down on February 27, 2003." http://gtkyahoo.sourceforge.net/ 
You may have a much easier time installing something that is being
currently maintained. I believe net-im/pidgin is quite popular and
is actively maintained. Pidgin is a messenger client, and it can
handle quite a few protocols, including yahoo.

Cheers, Tim.

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print/acroread8

2008-09-21 Thread Tim Clewlow
Hello,

# uname -a
FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE #0: Sun Sep 21 13:28:51 EST 2008

I just installed print/acroread8 from a ports tree that is about 1-2
days old (depending on your time zone). The plugin for firefox
(mozilla) was installed to:

/root/.mozilla/plugins/nppdf.so

When I did:

nsplugginwrapper -v -a -i

it found the plugin, and:

nsplugginwrapper -l

lists it as installed, but firefox doesnt load it.

So, I removed the plugin with:

nspluginwrapper -r /root/.mozilla/plugins/npwrapper.nppdf.so

then, moved the file nppdf.so into /usr/X11R6/lib/browser_plugins
and then, reinstalled it from the new location with:

nsplugginwrapper -v -a -i

Now firefox loads the plugin and it all works as expected.

I dont know if this is a packaging problem with acroread8, ie maybe
it should drop the file nppdf.so into /usr/X11R6/lib/browser_plugins
instead of /root/.mozilla/plugins - - - or maybe this is a problem
with the wrapper not setting up the plugin properly.

Anyway, this was the problem I encountered, and how to fix it
manually in case anyone else is seeing this.

Cheers, Tim.

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Re: Correct way to portupgrade php5 and php5-extensions-1.1 ?

2008-09-09 Thread Tim Clewlow

> Pine Digital Security Support wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Following the most recent update of PHP5 (5.2.6_2) and subsequent
>> portaudit warnings for 5.2.6, I've been upgrading lang/php5 and
>> lang/php5-extensions-1.1 on a number of machines.
>>
>> My question is, what is the best way to do this. Some options come
>> to mind:
>>
>> 1) portupgrade -fpb php5-5.2.6 php5-extensions-1.1
>>
>> or
>>
>> 2) portupgrade -fpb php5\*
>>
>> or
>>
>> 3) portupgrade -fpbR php5-5.2.6
>>
>>
>> I noticed that the first option didn't update the actual binaries
>> in
>> /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/, but it still works on the machine
>> where I
>> tried it.
>>
>> The second, I think, will always work
>> (/usr/local/lib/php/20060613/
>> files are all updated/recompiled), but it takes a long time. I'm
>> suspecting this way perhaps some ports will be updated/recompiled
>> more
>> than once? (once when php5-extensions is portupgraded, and once
>> when for
>> instance php5-session-5.2.6 is upgraded).
>>
>> The last option seems the best according to the manpage, but this
>> would
>> in my case also recompile phpmyadmin. Is that needed?
>>
>> Perhaps there are also different cases when for instance there is
>> a
>> minor version update like this one (from 5.2.6 to 5.2.6_2), and
>> for
>> instance a 5.2.6 to 5.2.7 or even 5.2.6 to 5.3 update).
>>
>> Who can shine some light on this dark matter? :-)
>
> I uprgraded PHP for same reason with just one simple command:
>
> portmaster php5-extensions-1.1
>
> It did all required steps (it first upgrade libraries for core PHP,
> then
> php5-5.x.x, then libraries for extensions, then extensions and as
> last
> step php5-extensions-1.1)
>
> (optionally you can upgrade PECL extensions by portmaster pecl-\*)
>
> Then restart Apache and PHP 5.2.6_2 is on ;)
>
> Miroslav Lachman
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I used this command:

portmanager lang/php5-extensions -p -l -ui

then restart apache

as usual, portmanager "just works" :-)

cheers, Tim


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Re: make package-recursive question

2008-01-21 Thread Tim Clewlow

--- Doug Barton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Tim Clewlow wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > If I do "make package-recursive" on a port then it first tries to install
the
> > port. This causes it to fail if the port is already installed. However, if
I
> > deinstall the port, and then make package-recursive, it installs the port,
> > makes the port package, and (this is the important part) quite happily
makes
> > packages for all the ports dependencies even though those dependencies
_are_
> > already installed.
> > 
> > Is there any way to tell "make package-recursive" to not bother trying to
> > install the top level port, ie just make the package like it does for all
the
> > dependencies?
> 
> AFAIK, no. You could try 'pkg_create -b' for the parent port, and then 
> try 'make package-recursive' to see if that will bypass the first step, 
> but I can't guarantee that it will work. Your other option would be to 
> do 'make -DFORCE_PKG_REGISTER package-recursive' in the parent port to 
> just re-build and re-install everything. Not as clean, but has the 
> advantage of not having to de-install the existing port in case that's a 
> problem.
> 
> hth,
> 
> Doug

Thanks for that, just wanted to know if I was missing a switch or special make
target somewhere. Its for a package server, ie slurp daily CVS updates and make
new versions of packages available for clients to install. The specific
function would only be used the first time a new package (and possibly new
dependencies) is added on the server, can work around it, its not a problem.

Cheers, Tim.

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make package-recursive question

2008-01-21 Thread Tim Clewlow
Hello,

If I do "make package-recursive" on a port then it first tries to install the
port. This causes it to fail if the port is already installed. However, if I
deinstall the port, and then make package-recursive, it installs the port,
makes the port package, and (this is the important part) quite happily makes
packages for all the ports dependencies even though those dependencies _are_
already installed.

Is there any way to tell "make package-recursive" to not bother trying to
install the top level port, ie just make the package like it does for all the
dependencies?

Cheers, Tim.

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Re: HOW-TO get Flash7 working!

2008-01-17 Thread Tim Clewlow

--- Jeremy Messenger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 12:21:47 -0600, Michal Varga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
> wrote:
> 
> >
> > On Thu, 2008-01-17 at 20:24 +0300, Boris Samorodov wrote:
> >
> >> Please, prove that you are right. Or do you want to receive a hammer
> >> without doing it?
> >>
> > And why not? Give him the approval to do the patches, review them and if
> > he is right in his approach and they work as they should, commit them?
> 
> 
> How can we approve to something nothing? Do you realized that anyone  
> doesn't need anyone's approve to create the patches? Chuck hasn't provide  
> any patch, edvince nor detail. His words:
> 
> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 15:08:50 -0500
> From: Chuck Robey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> ==
> The only way I'm going to get things to be for certain, it's to start over
>  from the beginning, and this time follow the procedures that any serious
> porter (such as you) already knows by heart.   I'm not going to try to
> repeat all that here.
> ==
> 
> Cheers,
> Mezz
> 
> > m.
> 

How about a compromise. Find a relatively simple linux port that breaks heir
style/policy. Fix it, send in a patch giving the reason that it used to break
heir style/policy and now with the patch it doesnt. Then you will be in a
better position to present your reasoning to a port manager if the maintainer
complains. And, assuming the port manager will approve of a port being made
heir compliant, you will then have a precedent to back you up, and may be more
able to convince a port manager to give you approval/backing to do the whole
lot.

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Re: HOW-TO get Flash7 working!

2008-01-16 Thread Tim Clewlow

--- Chuck Robey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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> 
> Boris Samorodov wrote:
> > On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:10:15 -0500 Chuck Robey wrote:
> > 
> >> All those libraries need to be found
> >> by the flash9 plugin library.
> > 
> > Please, give me strict instructions how to repeate (what to do
> > after a fresh install):
> > -
> > 0. Fresh RELENG_X_Y install.
> > 2. Fresh ports (or date=...).
> > 3. ...
> 
> I said at the very beginning of this thread, that I didn't keep track of
> what I did, because the tack I took was to relocate all of the libs to the
> /compat tree, and this sort of strategy can't be taken until I could get
> official approval of that as the correct method to take for installation of
> Linux libraries.  If I got that approval, I said I would undertake to
> locate and fix all of the ports that currently install Linux stuff into the
> /usr/local tree, and then make the flash9 work.  This sort of tack can't be
> attempted, unless I could show the port authors involved that I have
> official approval to get this thing done, so they could either approve of
> the diffs I would give them, or argue it with the port managers themselves.
>  What I never, ever intended to try, was to force things in any way, that's
> acting childishly.  I just needed a official hammer that was morally strong
> enough to get things moving.
> 

If I were a port manager, I would give you approval in a flash (bad pun
intended). I completely agree, linux libs belong in /compat - otherwise, what
is the point of having /compat ??

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Re: Limitations of Ports System

2008-01-11 Thread Tim Clewlow

--- Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 13/12/2007, Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I just wonder if you asked the general population, whether they'd rather
> > have ports or packages, I bet most would vote for packages, aside from
> > those that actually like watching the compilation output fly by.
> 
> I do like to watch it but in addition I always like to compile my own
> binaries etc. rather than using something thats precompiled and
> limited to how the compiler compiled it.
> 
> Chris

I change options in the mplayer Makefile to include twolame and mencoder in the
build because that way you get more codecs available for mencoder. Also, MySQL
has WITH_OPENSSL=yes in the make, and in PHP make config, I select Build Apache
module. Also I have the following options on in /etc/make.conf.
CFLAGS= -O -pipe# Optimize general builds
COPTFLAGS= -O -pipe # Optimize kernel builds
NO_PROFILE= # Only need to uncomment this line, no options
Finally, as a rule I install the latest patched up version of stable 6.x from
this optimised build (build once on a master cvs/build server). Dont know how
many other people do this, but I definately prefer ports over packages.

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Re: Xorg meta ports bloated dependencies

2007-12-01 Thread Tim Clewlow

--- "Aryeh M. Friedman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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> Andrei Kolu wrote:
> > Saturday 01 December 2007 11:08:28 kirjutas Yuri Pankov:
> >> Andrei Kolu wrote:
> >>> Saturday 01 December 2007 05:20:40 kirjutas
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
>  I've just been helping somebody through an installation of
>  6.2-RELEASE and we've noticed the excessive dependencies of
>  the xorg meta ports.
> 
>  xorg-server 1.4, for example, depends on:
> 
>  dbus-1.0.2_2, dbus-glib-0.74, glib-2.14.2, gnome_subr-1.0,
>  hal-0.5.8.20070909 and even strange things like
>  cdrtools-2.01_6.
> 
>  xorg-server 1.2 (the one distributed with the 6.2-RELEASE CD)
>   doesn't have these dependencies.
> 
>  Putting it bluntly: why is this crap being dragged in?
>  Neither of us use GNOME or anything that might require dbus.
>  I can't see why xorg-server could possibly need any of the
>  above?
> 
>  Anxiously awaiting a flaming argument.
> >>> And why xorg should include ugly fonts like adobe* an type1*?
> >> Because it IS a *META* port and should install everything that is
> >> part of xorg distribution? You are free to install the ports that
> >> you need, use WITHOUT_HAL for xorg-server, etc. And there are
> >> many people who think that ttf fonts are ugly, and bitmap and
> >> type1 fonts are more readable.
> >>
> > I'd like to see choices in metaport- ncurses based menus with
> > packages we really need. It is impossible to install Xorg without
> > metaport (anyone have done that at all?)- 300+ separate ports IIRC.
> > After removing unnecessary ports (fonts FE) and later you may try
> > to upgrade Xorg to newer version then package dependency would be
> > broken...
> 
> It is *NOT* the metaport that drags all this stuff in but
> xorg-server.   I attempted to do slightly disconnected install (worked
> relatively well except for when it came to installing something
> fancier then a wm) which was install xorg-server the i/o drivers for
> my platform and the xorg apps I wanted.
> 
> What I found was:
> 
> 1. xorg-server does a very bad job on fonts dependicies (it installs
> almost no fonts)
> 2. many xorg-apps assume they are being installed as a part of the
> metaport and do not sufficently check their own dependicies.
> 3. xorg and other long tool chains show some major weaknesses in the
> ports system:
> a. Inconsitent overridding or lack there of the config target
> (ports(8))
> b. Due to bad management of the dependancy DAG you are forced to
> use meta ports
> c. Due to c there is much less orthangonality then there should be
> between ports
> >
> > Or how can I tell metaport how to NOT INSTALL some crap I don't
> > need.
> >

4. On a recent upgrade after updating the ports tree, xorg got upgraded, and
wrote over the top of the existing /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xinitrc file - not
a big problem as I have a number of desktop boxes setup with same xinit file -
so I just copied one across - but still annoying - especially if you only have
one desktop - which means you will lose any customizations to xinit - would be
nice if it first created a backup/saved copy of existing xinit before
overwriting it.

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Re: Which "linux emulation" works with which programs or the inverse?

2007-10-24 Thread Tim Clewlow

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I'm totally confused. I was simply trying to get flash 9 or 7 working  
> in RELENG7 with which ever version of linux emulation and have been  
> totally unsuccessful.  In this I have been reading several other folks  
> where in fc4 something works and in fc7 it doesn't (Java, IIRC) and  
> the "scandalous status of linux-flashplugin9" thread, Sam Fourman Jr.,  
> is able to get flash working in firefox with gnash that completely  
> crashes my installation.  The last couple of days I have tried to vary  
> the version of linux emulation and test both flash 7 & 9 and gnash in  
> fc4, fc6 and f7 but only using 2.4.2 and 2.6.16 although the Java  
> issue talks of 2.6.19.  How are these versions derived?  Is there any  
> up to date general information about linux emulation on freebsd and a  
> few examples for configuration?
> 
> The strange part of all this is that gnash crashes all, flash 7 just  
> shows a gray screen on all and flash 9 actually has a play button that  
> looks like it is going to work and then goes to the gray screen and  
> plays the sound but without video.
> 
> Any suggestions as to where to find information on the different  
> combinations of emulation and how and why would be great as would a  
> working flash player like gnash is designed to be.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> ed
> 
> P.S. Why not ;)  Is there any hope in all this for GoogleEarth?   
> Probably a very silly question.
> 

Hi there, I have native firefox with flash 7 working fine on FreeBSD 6.2, with
java and adobe reader. I am guessing it should be pretty much the same for FBSD
7.

# Short and sweet summary:

install www/firefox   
install print/acroread7   
install java/diablo-jdk15
install www/linux-flashplugin7   
kldload linux
echo "none/compat/linux/proc  linprocfs   rw  0  
0" >> /etc/fstab
mount -a
echo "linux_enable=\"YES\"" >> /etc/rc.conf   
nspluginwrapper -v -a -i

Hope this at least gives pointers as to what to do in FreeBSD 7.

Regards, Tim.

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Re: cvsup.au.freebsd.org (Hosted on cvsup.planetmirror.com) issues

2007-04-05 Thread Tim Clewlow

--- Edwin Groothuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Fri, Apr 06, 2007 at 08:25:11AM +1000, Christopher Martin wrote:
> > I have recently noticed serious issues with collections from the FreeBSD
> > source tree maintained on cvsup.au.freebsd.org (cvsup.planetmirror.com),
> and
> > have sought to compare it to two of the US servers, cvsup3 and cvsup4, and
> > have found that cvsup.au.freebsd.org seems to be very wrong, with most of
> > the ports tree being deleted when using the Australian mirror. I have also
> > tried using cvsup2.au.freebsd.org but I have noticed that it seems to be
> > very out of date (when compared to cvsup3.freebsd.org) and frequently
> > unavailable (it must only allow a very limited number of clients). All the
> > other Australian mirrors are just pointed at these two hosts. I notified
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] over a month ago but it has not as yet been
> > corrected.
> 
> Although I stopped using cvsup a long time ago (in favour of
> portsnap), I did use cvsup3.freebsd.org (internode I think) and
> ftp3.au.freebsd.org (pacific.net) because of the same reasons as
> above.
> 
> Edwin

I am in Australia, and every now and then I try to use the .au cvsup mirrors -
but I have basically given up. I now use the american ones by default.

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Re: Porting a Linux application to FreeBSD

2007-02-12 Thread Tim Clewlow
--- Greg 'groggy' Lehey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Monday, 12 February 2007 at 14:35:34 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > Hello,
> > I was referred here by some people in the hackers@ list because I
asked
> > a porting related question and I should have asked it on this list.
> > I was wondering steps people had used in the past for porting linux
> > applications, ...
> 
> I can't answer your specific question, but you might like to read
> "Porting UNIX Software", available at
> http://www.lemis.com/grog/Documentation/PUS/
> 
> Greg
---

Shameless plug for another one:

The Complete FreeBSD - http://www.lemis.com/grog/Documentation/CFBSD/

Thank you greg - these are really helpful - just wanted to let you know that
people are grateful for your work. :-)

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Re: Something is really not right with azureus 2.5 / diablo-jdk 1.5

2006-11-30 Thread Tim Clewlow

--- Kostik Belousov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 22:26:56 +0200
> From: Kostik Belousov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Tim Clewlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> CC: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Something is really not right with azureus 2.5 / diablo-jdk 1.5
> 
> On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 11:36:10AM -0800, Tim Clewlow wrote:
> > 
> > --- Robert Noland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > From: Robert Noland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org
> > > Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 13:06:40 -0500
> > > Subject: Something is really not right with azureus 2.5 / diablo-jdk 1.5
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > Hello,
> > > > 
> > > > I have azureus-2.5.0.0 which requires diablo-jdk-1.5.0.07.01_1 to build
> > > (among
> > > > other things). It builds and runs fine, however, azureus limps along
> for
> > > about
> > > > 10 minutes with very low download and upload speeds, then it seems to
> grind
> > > to
> > > > a halt, the d/l and u/l basically stop. There are no errors to report
> > > because
> > > > the application keeps going, but the problem is it stops actually d/l
> or
> > > u/l
> > > > anything (sometimes you might get short bursts of extremely slow
> speeds,
> > > but it
> > > > is mostly 0 B/s).
> > > > 
> > > > I suspect that diablo-jdk that is at fault, but in truth this is just a
> > > hunch.
> > > 
> > > This is a problem with azureus, not the jdk.  The same issue exists with
> > > sun jdk15.  I am attempting to look at the code, but someone with more
> > > java foo than I would probably be much more productive.  It appears to
> > > be an issue with socket handling...
> > > 
> > > robert.
> > > 
> > 
> > FYI - I discovered the internet connection was constantly at 100% u/l due
> to a
> > number of people on the LAN doing p2p, so I shaped the external link to
> only
> > allow 80% of the real uplink capacity (which creates a 20% buffer to
> attempt to
> > mininize collisions on the uplink) and azureus suddenly came back to life.
> Note
> > that azureus on the windows box was happy before I shaped the link, but the
> BSD
> > version was not. This makes me think the BSD version of azureus gets into
> > trouble when outgoing packets get lost due to packet collision.
> > 
> > Tim.
> 
> Does this thing use nio ?
> 

It uses the following ports from "java" to build - I dont know if nio is in
these versions or not:

-0003 jakarta-commons-cli-1.0,1 /java/jakarta-commons-cli
-0004 junit-3.8.2 /java/junit
-0007 diablo-jdk-1.5.0.07.01_1 /java/diablo-jdk15
-0010 jakarta-commons-lang-2.1 /java/jakarta-commons-lang
-0037 javavmwrapper-2.3 /java/javavmwrapper

It also uses the following ports from "net" to build:

-0006 seda-3.0 /net/seda
-0034 linc-1.0.3_6 /net/linc
-0058 samba-libsmbclient-3.0.23c /net/samba-libsmbclient
-0059 avahi+libdns-0.6.14_3 /net/avahi

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Something is really not right with azureus 2.5 / diablo-jdk 1.5

2006-11-30 Thread Tim Clewlow

--- Robert Noland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Robert Noland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org
> Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 13:06:40 -0500
> Subject: Something is really not right with azureus 2.5 / diablo-jdk 1.5
> 
> 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I have azureus-2.5.0.0 which requires diablo-jdk-1.5.0.07.01_1 to build
> (among
> > other things). It builds and runs fine, however, azureus limps along for
> about
> > 10 minutes with very low download and upload speeds, then it seems to grind
> to
> > a halt, the d/l and u/l basically stop. There are no errors to report
> because
> > the application keeps going, but the problem is it stops actually d/l or
> u/l
> > anything (sometimes you might get short bursts of extremely slow speeds,
> but it
> > is mostly 0 B/s).
> > 
> > I suspect that diablo-jdk that is at fault, but in truth this is just a
> hunch.
> 
> This is a problem with azureus, not the jdk.  The same issue exists with
> sun jdk15.  I am attempting to look at the code, but someone with more
> java foo than I would probably be much more productive.  It appears to
> be an issue with socket handling...
> 
> robert.
> 

FYI - I discovered the internet connection was constantly at 100% u/l due to a
number of people on the LAN doing p2p, so I shaped the external link to only
allow 80% of the real uplink capacity (which creates a 20% buffer to attempt to
mininize collisions on the uplink) and azureus suddenly came back to life. Note
that azureus on the windows box was happy before I shaped the link, but the BSD
version was not. This makes me think the BSD version of azureus gets into
trouble when outgoing packets get lost due to packet collision.

Tim.


 

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Something is really not right with azureus 2.5 / diablo-jdk 1.5

2006-11-29 Thread Tim Clewlow
Hello,

I have azureus-2.5.0.0 which requires diablo-jdk-1.5.0.07.01_1 to build (among
other things). It builds and runs fine, however, azureus limps along for about
10 minutes with very low download and upload speeds, then it seems to grind to
a halt, the d/l and u/l basically stop. There are no errors to report because
the application keeps going, but the problem is it stops actually d/l or u/l
anything (sometimes you might get short bursts of extremely slow speeds, but it
is mostly 0 B/s).

I suspect that diablo-jdk that is at fault, but in truth this is just a hunch.

uname -a
FreeBSD earth.com 6.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE #0: Sun May  7 04:32:43 UTC
2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386

PS - this is not a complaint, or even an error report, it is more of a heads up
with what I am having happen on my system - also, I installed azureus to a
windoze box that is on the same LAN and it is behaving normally, so it doesnt
look like firewall/nat issue.

Regards, Tim.


 

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