Re: Mk/Scripts/qa.sh and DEVELOPER=yes

2014-04-14 Thread clutton
On Mon, 2014-04-14 at 07:34 +0200, Matthias Andree wrote:
 Am 13.04.2014 14:28, schrieb clutton:
  It seems that with DEVELOPER=yes in /etc/make.conf I'm not able to
  perform ordinary update routines. Removing the DEVELOPER variable fix
  the problem. And probably the worst part of it that there's no error
  message.
  
   Running Q/A tests (stage-qa)
  Error: 
  /tmp/usr/ports/devel/p5-subversion/work/stage/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.18/mach/auto/SVN/_Core/.packlist
   is referring to /tmp/usr/ports/devel/p5-subversion/work/stage
 
 Oh, there is an error, as quoted above.
 
 .packlist refers to a file that will no longer be present after make
 clean.
 
 Cause is that the p5-subversion port, or some part of the Perl or ports
 framework, causes the .packlist to be generated with bogus contents.
 Either we can fix the actual cause, or we can hack the .packlist to
 strip the ${STAGEDIR} prefix, which would be the inferior approach, however.


I have missed that. Thanks for fixing.


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Mk/Scripts/qa.sh and DEVELOPER=yes

2014-04-13 Thread clutton
It seems that with DEVELOPER=yes in /etc/make.conf I'm not able to
perform ordinary update routines. Removing the DEVELOPER variable fix
the problem. And probably the worst part of it that there's no error
message.

 Running Q/A tests (stage-qa)
Error: 
/tmp/usr/ports/devel/p5-subversion/work/stage/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.18/mach/auto/SVN/_Core/.packlist
 is referring to /tmp/usr/ports/devel/p5-subversion/work/stage
Warning: 
/tmp/usr/ports/devel/p5-subversion/work/stage/usr/local/lib/libsvn_swig_perl-1.so.0
 is not stripped consider using ${STRIP_CMD}
Warning: 
/tmp/usr/ports/devel/p5-subversion/work/stage/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.18/mach/auto/SVN/_Repos/_Repos.so
 is not stripped consider using ${STRIP_CMD}
Warning: 
/tmp/usr/ports/devel/p5-subversion/work/stage/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.18/mach/auto/SVN/_Core/_Core.so
 is not stripped consider using ${STRIP_CMD}
Warning: 
/tmp/usr/ports/devel/p5-subversion/work/stage/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.18/mach/auto/SVN/_Client/_Client.so
 is not stripped consider using ${STRIP_CMD}
Warning: 
/tmp/usr/ports/devel/p5-subversion/work/stage/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.18/mach/auto/SVN/_Wc/_Wc.so
 is not stripped consider using ${STRIP_CMD}
Warning: 
/tmp/usr/ports/devel/p5-subversion/work/stage/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.18/mach/auto/SVN/_Ra/_Ra.so
 is not stripped consider using ${STRIP_CMD}
Warning: 
/tmp/usr/ports/devel/p5-subversion/work/stage/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.18/mach/auto/SVN/_Fs/_Fs.so
 is not stripped consider using ${STRIP_CMD}
Warning: 
/tmp/usr/ports/devel/p5-subversion/work/stage/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.18/mach/auto/SVN/_Delta/_Delta.so
 is not stripped consider using ${STRIP_CMD}
*** Error code 1

Stop.
make[1]: stopped in /usr/ports/devel/p5-subversion
*** Error code 1

Stop.
make: stopped in /usr/ports/devel/p5-subversion
** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script
-qa /tmp/portupgrade20140413-52886-1puk9v9 env UPGRADE_TOOL=portupgrade
UPGRADE_PORT=p5-subversion-1.8.8_2 UPGRADE_PORT_VER=1.8.8_2 make
-DFORCE_PKG_REGISTER reinstall
---  Restoring the old version
Installing p5-subversion-1.8.8_2... done
---  Removing old package'
** Fix the installation problem and try again.
---  Installation of devel/p5-subversion ended at: Sun, 13 Apr 2014
15:19:02 +0300 (consumed 00:00:03)
---  Reinstallation of devel/p5-subversion ended at: Sun, 13 Apr 2014
15:19:02 +0300 (consumed 00:01:44)
---  ** Upgrade tasks 1: 0 done, 0 ignored, 0 skipped and 1 failed
---  Listing the results (+:done / -:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed)
! devel/p5-subversion (p5-subversion-1.8.8_2) (install error)
---  Packages processed: 0 done, 0 ignored, 0 skipped and 1 failed
---  Session ended at: Sun, 13 Apr 2014 15:19:02 +0300 (consumed
00:01:46)
zsh: exit 1 /usr/local/bin/sudo portupgrade -fuv
p5-subversion-1.8.8_2




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Re: port www/youtube_dl

2014-02-11 Thread clutton
On Tue, 2014-02-11 at 09:07 +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote:
 Hello,
 
 The port www/youtube_dl installs as a binary the Youtube downloader in
 
 # file /usr/local/bin/youtube-dl
 /usr/local/bin/youtube-dl: data
 
 The executeable tends to fail due to changes the provider Youtube does
 in its web page and users tend to update the software theirself by the
 option --update; this connects via HTTPS to:
 
 07:36:12.668370 IP 10.32.233.251.31097  frnk.radius.uk.mediaways.net.domain: 
 63308+ A? rg3.github.io. (31)
 07:36:13.214619 IP frnk.radius.uk.mediaways.net.domain  10.32.233.251.31097: 
 63308 2/0/0 CNAME github.map.fastly.net., A 185.31.16.133 (82)
 07:36:13.215016 IP 10.32.233.251.33006  frnk.radius.uk.mediaways.net.domain: 
 63309+ ? rg3.github.io. (31)
 07:36:13.348108 IP 10.32.233.251.57784  frnk.radius.uk.mediaways.net.domain: 
 35986+ PTR?  251.233.32.10.in-addr.arpa. (44)
 07:36:13.514879 IP frnk.radius.uk.mediaways.net.domain  10.32.233.251.33006: 
 63309 1/1/0 CNAME github.map.fastly.net. (138)
 07:36:13.515729 IP 10.32.233.251.14874  185.31.16.133.http: Flags [S], seq 
 3997719834, win 65535, options [mss 1460,nop,wscale 6,sackOK,TS val 441155 
 ecr 0], length 0
 ...
 
 and downloads a new binary version to /usr/local/bin/youtube-dl which
 must be done in addition as root (or root must change the owner of the
 file before).
 
 This is highly concerning due to 'phoning home' and installing whatever
 (mal-) software or due to DNS redirects to some malware side.
 
 The Linux friends patch the source to disable the --update option; see
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/youtube-dl/+bug/1063469
 
 Shouldn't we do the same?
 
 Thx
 
   matthias

I don't think that this is a big deal. Write to the maintainer first
anyway.

You can also try my firefox addon:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/youtube-flash-to-HTML5

Sometime it doesn't work because of youtube ajax nature. Reloading page
will make it work. I doesn't have a time to fix this now. Anyway, it
always works when a new tab opens.


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Re: port www/youtube_dl

2014-02-11 Thread clutton
On Tue, 2014-02-11 at 10:37 +0200, clutton wrote:
 On Tue, 2014-02-11 at 09:07 +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote:
  Hello,
  
  The port www/youtube_dl installs as a binary the Youtube downloader in
  
  # file /usr/local/bin/youtube-dl
  /usr/local/bin/youtube-dl: data
  
  The executeable tends to fail due to changes the provider Youtube does
  in its web page and users tend to update the software theirself by the
  option --update; this connects via HTTPS to:
  
  07:36:12.668370 IP 10.32.233.251.31097  
  frnk.radius.uk.mediaways.net.domain: 63308+ A? rg3.github.io. (31)
  07:36:13.214619 IP frnk.radius.uk.mediaways.net.domain  
  10.32.233.251.31097: 63308 2/0/0 CNAME github.map.fastly.net., A 
  185.31.16.133 (82)
  07:36:13.215016 IP 10.32.233.251.33006  
  frnk.radius.uk.mediaways.net.domain: 63309+ ? rg3.github.io. (31)
  07:36:13.348108 IP 10.32.233.251.57784  
  frnk.radius.uk.mediaways.net.domain: 35986+ PTR?  
  251.233.32.10.in-addr.arpa. (44)
  07:36:13.514879 IP frnk.radius.uk.mediaways.net.domain  
  10.32.233.251.33006: 63309 1/1/0 CNAME github.map.fastly.net. (138)
  07:36:13.515729 IP 10.32.233.251.14874  185.31.16.133.http: Flags [S], seq 
  3997719834, win 65535, options [mss 1460,nop,wscale 6,sackOK,TS val 441155 
  ecr 0], length 0
  ...
  
  and downloads a new binary version to /usr/local/bin/youtube-dl which
  must be done in addition as root (or root must change the owner of the
  file before).
  
  This is highly concerning due to 'phoning home' and installing whatever
  (mal-) software or due to DNS redirects to some malware side.
  
  The Linux friends patch the source to disable the --update option; see
  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/youtube-dl/+bug/1063469
  
  Shouldn't we do the same?
  
  Thx
  
  matthias
 
 I don't think that this is a big deal. Write to the maintainer first
 anyway.
 
 You can also try my firefox addon:
 https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/youtube-flash-to-HTML5
 
 Sometime it doesn't work because of youtube ajax nature. Reloading page
 will make it work. I doesn't have a time to fix this now. Anyway, it
 always works when a new tab opens.

O. I'd already advertised my addon to you. Sorry for repeating :).
The addon have been improved since that time. It doesn't wait until
youtube player fails. It fixes it before running now.



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Re: port www/youtube_dl

2014-02-11 Thread clutton
On Tue, 2014-02-11 at 10:24 +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote:
 El día Tuesday, February 11, 2014 a las 10:42:55AM +0200, clutton escribió:
 
This is highly concerning due to 'phoning home' and installing whatever
(mal-) software or due to DNS redirects to some malware side.

The Linux friends patch the source to disable the --update option; see
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/youtube-dl/+bug/1063469

Shouldn't we do the same?

Thx

matthias
   
   I don't think that this is a big deal. Write to the maintainer first
   anyway.
   
   You can also try my firefox addon:
   https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/youtube-flash-to-HTML5
   
   Sometime it doesn't work because of youtube ajax nature. Reloading page
   will make it work. I doesn't have a time to fix this now. Anyway, it
   always works when a new tab opens.
  
  O. I'd already advertised my addon to you. Sorry for repeating :).
  The addon have been improved since that time. It doesn't wait until
  youtube player fails. It fixes it before running now.
 
 Your post has less todo with the raised concern re/ youtube-dl update
 option.
 
 And, is your software somehow OpenSource or another piece of binary?
 
 Thx
 
   matthias

Yes, it's Open Source, you'll find the github link on the addon page.
It's under MOZILLA PUBLIC LICENSE.


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Re: port www/youtube_dl

2014-02-11 Thread clutton
On Tue, 2014-02-11 at 03:12 -0800, Jakub Lach wrote:
 The problem is, that without -U this ports can be useless, as it's usually
 not updated fast enough.
 
 
 
 --
 View this message in context: 
 http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/port-www-youtube-dl-tp5884972p5885022.html
 Sent from the freebsd-ports mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Probably not, I had never used -U option. And youtube_dl worked for me
every single time.

Knowing a little youtube internals I could say that downloading approach
haven't been changed for a long time.

Does somebody notice changes recently?


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After wathing html5 video, firefox doesn't quit and consumes 100% CPU

2014-02-11 Thread clutton
This problem hit my eyes since 24 version of firefox.
I don't have the flash player installed.
And the problem is not always reproducible, it's 1/3 I think.
I can reproduce the problem in safe mode too, so it is not an addon
issue.

top -H:
 PID USERNAME  PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME  WCPU   COMMAND
 1883 username 102  0 1227M 619M CPU0 0 2:18 100.00% frefox{Media State}

Am I only one who experience this behaviour?


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make fetchindex

2014-01-25 Thread clutton
I'm curious, is INDEX bounded to svn revision somehow now?
Or is it builds every hour like in old days?


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Re: shells/bash-static fails to package/deinstall cleanly

2013-12-26 Thread clutton
On Wed, 2013-12-25 at 23:52 -0800, Doug Barton wrote:
 Please don't remove people from the CC line. I copied the maintainer on 
 purpose.
 
 On 12/25/2013 11:40 PM, clutton wrote:
  On Wed, 2013-12-25 at 22:06 -0800, Doug Barton wrote:
  The problem is that the bash.1 and bashbugs.1 man pages do not get
  compressed, and therefore the package fails. If I add a MAN1 variable to
  the Makefile with those pages listed, it works.
 
  Doug
 
   From https://wiki.freebsd.org/ports/StageDir
 
  MAN*/MANLANG/MLINKS now useless
  manpage compression/uncompression is now automatically handled by the
  framework if you use stagedir.
 
 ... and yet, that's not what happened here. Hence the problem report.
 
  Take a look at my port: multimedia/ffmpegthumbnailer
  I believe I did it right :)
 
 It's not my port, which is why I CCed the maintainer.
 
 Doug

It is the case, the bash port uses STAGE, bash-static doesn't and bash
static is slave port of bash. Try to remove NO_STAGE from
bash-static/Makefile.


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Re: shells/bash-static fails to package/deinstall cleanly

2013-12-26 Thread clutton
On Thu, 2013-12-26 at 10:36 +0200, clutton wrote:
 On Wed, 2013-12-25 at 23:52 -0800, Doug Barton wrote:
  Please don't remove people from the CC line. I copied the maintainer on 
  purpose.
  
  On 12/25/2013 11:40 PM, clutton wrote:
   On Wed, 2013-12-25 at 22:06 -0800, Doug Barton wrote:
   The problem is that the bash.1 and bashbugs.1 man pages do not get
   compressed, and therefore the package fails. If I add a MAN1 variable to
   the Makefile with those pages listed, it works.
  
   Doug
  
From https://wiki.freebsd.org/ports/StageDir
  
   MAN*/MANLANG/MLINKS now useless
   manpage compression/uncompression is now automatically handled by the
   framework if you use stagedir.
  
  ... and yet, that's not what happened here. Hence the problem report.
  
   Take a look at my port: multimedia/ffmpegthumbnailer
   I believe I did it right :)
  
  It's not my port, which is why I CCed the maintainer.
  
  Doug
 
 It is the case, the bash port uses STAGE, bash-static doesn't and bash
 static is slave port of bash. Try to remove NO_STAGE from
 bash-static/Makefile.

Yeap, my guess was right. After removing NO_STAGE, I have man pages
installed correctly.

 Compressing man pages (compress-man)
===  Installing for bash-static-4.2.45_1
===  Checking if shells/bash-static already installed
===   Registering installation for bash-static-4.2.45_1
Installing bash-static-4.2.45_1... done


Do you still think that backward compatibility is a good thing for such
a project like FreeBSD ports? I'd like to spend time doing real porting
instead of dealing with something like that bug.

Many projects which were good from the beginning now are pieces of sheet
because of backward compatibility, firefox jetpack sdk and xul show this
clearly. I don't want to see FreeBSD ports in this list.

Please fill the pr.
diff --git a/shells/bash-static/Makefile b/shells/bash-static/Makefile
index f5063a0..363a823 100644
--- a/shells/bash-static/Makefile
+++ b/shells/bash-static/Makefile
@@ -5,5 +5,4 @@ MASTERDIR=  ${.CURDIR}/../../shells/bash

 OPTIONS_SLAVE= STATIC

-NO_STAGE=  yes
 .include ${MASTERDIR}/Makefile


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Re: shells/bash-static fails to package/deinstall cleanly

2013-12-26 Thread clutton
On Thu, 2013-12-26 at 11:52 +0200, clutton wrote:
 On Thu, 2013-12-26 at 10:36 +0200, clutton wrote:
  On Wed, 2013-12-25 at 23:52 -0800, Doug Barton wrote:
   Please don't remove people from the CC line. I copied the maintainer on 
   purpose.
   
   On 12/25/2013 11:40 PM, clutton wrote:
On Wed, 2013-12-25 at 22:06 -0800, Doug Barton wrote:
The problem is that the bash.1 and bashbugs.1 man pages do not get
compressed, and therefore the package fails. If I add a MAN1 variable 
to
the Makefile with those pages listed, it works.
   
Doug
   
 From https://wiki.freebsd.org/ports/StageDir
   
MAN*/MANLANG/MLINKS now useless
manpage compression/uncompression is now automatically handled by the
framework if you use stagedir.
   
   ... and yet, that's not what happened here. Hence the problem report.
   
Take a look at my port: multimedia/ffmpegthumbnailer
I believe I did it right :)
   
   It's not my port, which is why I CCed the maintainer.
   
   Doug
  
  It is the case, the bash port uses STAGE, bash-static doesn't and bash
  static is slave port of bash. Try to remove NO_STAGE from
  bash-static/Makefile.
 
 Yeap, my guess was right. After removing NO_STAGE, I have man pages
 installed correctly.
 
  Compressing man pages (compress-man)
 ===  Installing for bash-static-4.2.45_1
 ===  Checking if shells/bash-static already installed
 ===   Registering installation for bash-static-4.2.45_1
 Installing bash-static-4.2.45_1... done
 
 
 Do you still think that backward compatibility is a good thing for such
 a project like FreeBSD ports? I'd like to spend time doing real porting
 instead of dealing with something like that bug.
 
 Many projects which were good from the beginning now are pieces of sheet
 because of backward compatibility, firefox jetpack sdk and xul show this
 clearly. I don't want to see FreeBSD ports in this list.
 
 Please fill the pr.
 diff --git a/shells/bash-static/Makefile b/shells/bash-static/Makefile
 index f5063a0..363a823 100644
 --- a/shells/bash-static/Makefile
 +++ b/shells/bash-static/Makefile
 @@ -5,5 +5,4 @@ MASTERDIR=  ${.CURDIR}/../../shells/bash
 
  OPTIONS_SLAVE= STATIC
 
 -NO_STAGE=  yes
  .include ${MASTERDIR}/Makefile

Actually don't. Do not fill the pr.

Ξ ~ → cat /usr/ports/shells/bash-static/Makefile 
# Created by: Emanuel Haupt eha...@freebsd.org
# $FreeBSD$

MASTERDIR=  ${.CURDIR}/../../shells/bash

OPTIONS_SLAVE=  STATIC

.include ${MASTERDIR}/Makefile

The whole port because of STATIC option?
It'll be better to move this thing to bash port and make it as an
option. Like zsh maintainer did.


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Re: shells/bash-static fails to package/deinstall cleanly

2013-12-26 Thread clutton
On Thu, 2013-12-26 at 10:51 +, Matthew Seaman wrote:
 On 26/12/2013 10:40, clutton wrote:
  The whole port because of STATIC option?
  It'll be better to move this thing to bash port and make it as an
  option. Like zsh maintainer did.
 
 It's already an option in the bash port.
 
 You seem somewhat unclear on the concept of slave ports and why they
 should exist.  The point here is so that users of binary packages can
 jut type
 
pkg install bash-static
 
 and get a statically linked version of bash.  This is the principal
 reason that slave ports exist: so that the same software will be built
 with different sets of default options, either for end user convenience
 or because some other port depends on having some specific combination
 of options.
 
   Cheers,
 
   Matthew
 

I know why, I mean I understand the purpose.

http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-ports@freebsd.org/msg52457.html

I thought that after OPTIONS framework was introduced all -x11 and
similar ports are legacy. Am I wrong?


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Re: WITHOUT_NLS is deprecated use NLS option instead

2013-12-25 Thread clutton
On Wed, 2013-12-25 at 21:56 -0800, Doug Barton wrote:
 Tonight I'm seeing this during ports builds:
 
 /!\ WARNING /!\
 WITHOUT_NLS is deprecated use NLS option instead
 
 This is silly.
 
 I traced the message to bsd.sanity.mk, which has similar silliness for 
 many other longstanding make.conf options. If y'all are clever enough to 
 create silly warning messages deprecating options that have been in use 
 longer than most of you have been part of the project, you're also 
 clever enough to make compatibility shims to cause WITHOUT_FOO to do 
 whatever the equivalent behavior is for whatever the options framework 
 looks like this week.
 
 Please fix this.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Doug

«The longer I live, Dorian, the more keenly I feel that whatever was
good enough for our fathers is not good enough for us.»

Sorry, but I have a quite opposite view. Making both variants work means
chaos. More variants means more complication.


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Re: shells/bash-static fails to package/deinstall cleanly

2013-12-25 Thread clutton
On Wed, 2013-12-25 at 22:06 -0800, Doug Barton wrote:
 The problem is that the bash.1 and bashbugs.1 man pages do not get 
 compressed, and therefore the package fails. If I add a MAN1 variable to 
 the Makefile with those pages listed, it works.
 
 Doug

From https://wiki.freebsd.org/ports/StageDir

MAN*/MANLANG/MLINKS now useless
manpage compression/uncompression is now automatically handled by the
framework if you use stagedir.

Take a look at my port: multimedia/ffmpegthumbnailer
I believe I did it right :)


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openvpn + resolv.conf

2013-12-24 Thread clutton
Hi openvpn users and maintainers.

The only missing thing about FreeBSD openvpn structure I've found is
lack of resolv support.

I've written up script, spending 5 minutes, but guys, does is necessary
to write such a script for any installation, for every new user?

I think it'll be better to provide port with such a script. Port can be
provided with something from here
work/openvpn-2.3.2/contrib/pull-resolv-conf.


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Re: If ports@ list continues to be used as substitute for GNATS, I'm unsubscribing

2013-12-20 Thread clutton
On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 12:45 -0500, Eitan Adler wrote:
 On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Lars Engels lars.eng...@0x20.net wrote:
  Am 2013-12-17 23:33, schrieb John Marino:
 
  Over the months I've seen several ports users copy a failure log and
  mail it to ports@, usually without even saying hello.  I've tried to
  discourage that behavior but other members of this mail list encourage
  this method of bypassing writing PRs.  One user even proudly boasted
  that sending email to ports@ is faster than writing a PR so of course he
  was going to do that instead.
 
 
  That only shows how badly GNATS sucks and that it's much more uncomfortable
  to
  use than writing a mail.
  I totally agree that error need to be tracked in an error tracker where
  reports
  don't get lost, you have a proper history etc. pp. but GNATS is just ancient
  and
  should have died in a fire a long time ago.
 
 Agreed.  There is active work on moving to bugzilla instead of GNATS.
 I can't give a definite timeline but it should be 'soon'.
 

I would suggest to take a look at redmine. Not because I'm a ruby
developer. Pivotal and redmine are trackers which people like most.
Redmine does the same thing as a jira or a track but in more polite
manner :)


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Re: If ports@ list continues to be used as substitute for GNATS, I'm unsubscribing

2013-12-20 Thread clutton
On Thu, 2013-12-19 at 11:13 -0700, Chad Perrin wrote:
 On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 01:44:57AM -0800, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
  
  From: Thomas Mueller
  
  There are many messages on this thread, and I don't know which or
  what to quote, but I agree on send-pr being user-unfriendly.
  
  I disagree.
  I use only send-pr to send PRs.
  I use sendmail.
 
 I disagree with you.  For new users, send-pr is a fucking usability
 train wreck, and insufficiently well documented.  Sendmail is legendary
 for its obtuse configuration.  I suppose you should be proud of the fact
 you find these tools easy to use, but that does not mean you should
 dismiss others' concerns over how difficult some people find them.  The
 fact many people find these tools very difficult to use is in fact kind
 of a big problem, and I'm glad something is being done about it with
 regard to the bugzilla system.  I wouldn't have chosen bugzilla if it
 was up to me, but it's not up to me and it's sure to be a huge
 improvement over the system currently in place, so I'm grateful for the
 work being done.  Hopefully the command line send-pr tool will also be
 replaced with something that actually provides a low-friction way for
 people with problem reports to contribute to the FreeBSD project.
 
 In conclusion, I agree with Thomas (though I much prefer fdm over mpop,
 personally), and believe that send-pr (or its replacement, whenever that
 happens) desperately needs some better documentation.  I rather suspect
 that a lot of people with problems to report simply give up and leave us
 with no clue there's anything wrong.
 

+1
People wouldn't read the «Porters Handbook» because they want to make a
bug report. Category and Class are far away from obvious.

Handbook said that the FreeBSD consists from src, ports, and docs.
The send-pr Category dropbox contains ports, bin, java, ia64, etc. It's
insane to put everything here.


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the misc/freebsd-doc-en port

2013-11-29 Thread clutton
Hi.

I've encountered unnecessary dependencies in this port.
The Java and fonts part should be an option for those who are going to
build something different from HTML.


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