Re: [HEADSUP] New mailing pkg-fallout

2013-07-20 Thread olli hauer
On 2013-07-19 09:05, Tijl Coosemans wrote:
 On 2013-07-18 21:33, olli hauer wrote:
 On 2013-07-18 21:09, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
 On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 09:04:09PM +0200, olli hauer wrote:
 Hm, I just picked the bugzilla44 port and struggle over the logs.

 ===  de-bugzilla-4.4 conflicts with installed package(s): 
   bugzilla-4.2.6

   They install files into the same place.
   Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1).
 *** Error code 1

 But I found no hint in the log that bugzilla-4.2.6 was installed before. 
 [1]

 The same issue for was raised for the de-bugzilla port, I suspect 
 (ru|ja)-bugzilla44 and (de|ru|ja)-bugzilla will fail with the same issue.

 Is it possible that the new builds do not start with a clean build 
 environment?

 [1]
 http://beefy1.isc.freebsd.org/bulk/83i386-default/2013-07-17_14h38m27s/logs/de-bugzilla-4.4.log
 http://beefy2.isc.freebsd.org/bulk/83amd64-default/2013-07-17_14h39m18s/logs/de-bugzilla-4.4.log


 Maybe someone can enlighten my

 No it always starts from a clean room, 100% sure of it.

 I still have lot of work on the cluster right now, next week I'll probably 
 have
 more time to help

 OK, maybe you see why the issue was raised.
 I really have no idea since I haven't seen this on my tinderbox builds.
 
 Index: Makefile
 ===
 --- Makefile  (revision 323099)
 +++ Makefile  (working copy)
 @@ -10,7 +10,7 @@
  MAINTAINER=  bugzi...@freebsd.org
  COMMENT= German localization for Bugzilla
  
 -RUN_DEPENDS= bugzilla=${PORTVERSION}:${PORTSDIR}/devel/bugzilla42
 +RUN_DEPENDS= bugzilla=${PORTVERSION}:${PORTSDIR}/devel/bugzilla44
  
  LATEST_LINK= ${PKGNAMEPREFIX}bugzilla44
  

Arrrg, thanks for wiping the dust out of my eyes ...

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Re: [HEADSUP] New mailing pkg-fallout

2013-07-19 Thread Tijl Coosemans
On 2013-07-18 21:33, olli hauer wrote:
 On 2013-07-18 21:09, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
 On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 09:04:09PM +0200, olli hauer wrote:
 Hm, I just picked the bugzilla44 port and struggle over the logs.

 ===  de-bugzilla-4.4 conflicts with installed package(s): 
   bugzilla-4.2.6

   They install files into the same place.
   Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1).
 *** Error code 1

 But I found no hint in the log that bugzilla-4.2.6 was installed before. [1]

 The same issue for was raised for the de-bugzilla port, I suspect 
 (ru|ja)-bugzilla44 and (de|ru|ja)-bugzilla will fail with the same issue.

 Is it possible that the new builds do not start with a clean build 
 environment?

 [1]
 http://beefy1.isc.freebsd.org/bulk/83i386-default/2013-07-17_14h38m27s/logs/de-bugzilla-4.4.log
 http://beefy2.isc.freebsd.org/bulk/83amd64-default/2013-07-17_14h39m18s/logs/de-bugzilla-4.4.log


 Maybe someone can enlighten my

 No it always starts from a clean room, 100% sure of it.

 I still have lot of work on the cluster right now, next week I'll probably 
 have
 more time to help
 
 OK, maybe you see why the issue was raised.
 I really have no idea since I haven't seen this on my tinderbox builds.

Index: Makefile
===
--- Makefile(revision 323099)
+++ Makefile(working copy)
@@ -10,7 +10,7 @@
 MAINTAINER=bugzi...@freebsd.org
 COMMENT=   German localization for Bugzilla
 
-RUN_DEPENDS=   bugzilla=${PORTVERSION}:${PORTSDIR}/devel/bugzilla42
+RUN_DEPENDS=   bugzilla=${PORTVERSION}:${PORTSDIR}/devel/bugzilla44
 
 LATEST_LINK=   ${PKGNAMEPREFIX}bugzilla44
 




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Re: [HEADSUP] New mailing pkg-fallout

2013-07-18 Thread Andrea Venturoli

On 07/18/13 00:14, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:

The volume unsustainable.
I unsubscribed already.


Me too.
Subscribed yesterday evening; gone this morning.




I suggest the mail is sent to maintainers only.


This seems to me a far better solution.


Just my 2c.

 bye
av.

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Re: [HEADSUP] New mailing pkg-fallout

2013-07-18 Thread Erwin Lansing
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 11:14:39PM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
 The volume unsustainable.

You bet it is!  Know you know what portmgr has been spending its time on
for all those years and why we keep sining the same old song about
quality control and pre-commit (and not post-commit testing waiting for
a krismail from me, Martin, or other portmgr members) testing.  If you
feel the volume is to big, here's your change to make a difference!

Erwin

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Re: [HEADSUP] New mailing pkg-fallout

2013-07-18 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:04:52 +0200
From: Erwin Lansing er...@freebsd.org
To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, po...@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: [HEADSUP] New mailing pkg-fallout

On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 11:14:39PM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
 The volume unsustainable.

You bet it is!  Know you know what portmgr has been spending its time on
for all those years and why we keep sining the same old song about
quality control and pre-commit (and not post-commit testing waiting for
a krismail from me, Martin, or other portmgr members) testing.  If you
feel the volume is to big, here's your change to make a difference!

Erwin

I want to help, but my commitment and
skills are not even close to yours.
If there is portscluster/portsmon type
failure table, I'll check it periodically
to see if there are any ports I can work on.
And for all maintained ports, the mail
should certainly go to the maintainer.

Anton
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Re: [HEADSUP] New mailing pkg-fallout

2013-07-18 Thread Mark Linimon
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 10:04:52AM +0200, Erwin Lansing wrote:
 You bet it is!  Know you know what portmgr has been spending its time
 on for all those years and why we keep sining the same old song about
 quality control and pre-commit (and not post-commit) testing

ITYM singing :-)

In any event, this may be a case where looking at the mailing list
through another lens may be less painful:

  http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-pkg-fallout/

mcl
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Re: [HEADSUP] New mailing pkg-fallout

2013-07-18 Thread Andrea Venturoli

On 07/18/13 10:04, Erwin Lansing wrote:

On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 11:14:39PM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:

The volume unsustainable.


You bet it is!  Know you know what portmgr has been spending its time on
for all those years and why we keep sining the same old song about
quality control and pre-commit (and not post-commit testing waiting for
a krismail from me, Martin, or other portmgr members) testing.  If you
feel the volume is to big, here's your change to make a difference!


Hello Erwin.

I subscribed to that list because I maintain a couple of ports.
They are small, not so important ports, I don't think I deserve any 
medal, but that's what I can do. Perhaps in the future I'll have more 
time and skills to spare, but that's how it is now.
I subscribed to that list exactly because I hope my ports don't show 
unexpected problems. I thought this would be a good idea, because I 
thought it would help me achieve this goal.
Unfortunately, it does not: it does not save me time and efforts, but, 
on the contrary, it's been hindering me (by wasting time and resources).


We are not discussing the goal, only the tools.

If I get a mail regarding a port I maintain, I'll happily try and find 
some time to look into it. If I have to wade through gobs of mail which 
means very little to me, already a share of my time may be gone.


Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that list should be deleted; if it is 
useful to someone, fine, let them go for it.
In my case, if I'll get more targeted mails, I'd have a bigger chance to 
look into them.


Again, just my 2c.

 bye  Thanks
av.
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Re: [HEADSUP] New mailing pkg-fallout

2013-07-18 Thread olli hauer
On 2013-07-17 18:57, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
 Hi all, 
 
 If you are a committer or if you are maintainer it is highly recommanded for
 you to subscribe to the pkg-fallout mailing list.
 
 http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-pkg-fallout
 
 This list receive all the failures mails from the package building cluster.
 Please keep in eye on this list and make sure none of your ports or the ports
 you care about are failing.
 
 Right now the mailing list receive the failures from the experimental package
 building for pkgng packages.
 
 Soon we will add a continuous building server which will have stricter QA 
 rules.
 
 regards,
 Bapt
 

Hm, I just picked the bugzilla44 port and struggle over the logs.

 ===  de-bugzilla-4.4 conflicts with installed package(s): 
   bugzilla-4.2.6
 
   They install files into the same place.
   Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1).
 *** Error code 1

But I found no hint in the log that bugzilla-4.2.6 was installed before. [1]

The same issue for was raised for the de-bugzilla port, I suspect 
(ru|ja)-bugzilla44 and (de|ru|ja)-bugzilla will fail with the same issue.

Is it possible that the new builds do not start with a clean build environment?

[1]
http://beefy1.isc.freebsd.org/bulk/83i386-default/2013-07-17_14h38m27s/logs/de-bugzilla-4.4.log
http://beefy2.isc.freebsd.org/bulk/83amd64-default/2013-07-17_14h39m18s/logs/de-bugzilla-4.4.log


Maybe someone can enlighten my

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Re: [HEADSUP] New mailing pkg-fallout

2013-07-18 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 09:04:09PM +0200, olli hauer wrote:
 On 2013-07-17 18:57, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
  Hi all, 
  
  If you are a committer or if you are maintainer it is highly recommanded for
  you to subscribe to the pkg-fallout mailing list.
  
  http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-pkg-fallout
  
  This list receive all the failures mails from the package building cluster.
  Please keep in eye on this list and make sure none of your ports or the 
  ports
  you care about are failing.
  
  Right now the mailing list receive the failures from the experimental 
  package
  building for pkgng packages.
  
  Soon we will add a continuous building server which will have stricter QA 
  rules.
  
  regards,
  Bapt
  
 
 Hm, I just picked the bugzilla44 port and struggle over the logs.
 
  ===  de-bugzilla-4.4 conflicts with installed package(s): 
bugzilla-4.2.6
  
They install files into the same place.
Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1).
  *** Error code 1
 
 But I found no hint in the log that bugzilla-4.2.6 was installed before. [1]
 
 The same issue for was raised for the de-bugzilla port, I suspect 
 (ru|ja)-bugzilla44 and (de|ru|ja)-bugzilla will fail with the same issue.
 
 Is it possible that the new builds do not start with a clean build 
 environment?
 
 [1]
 http://beefy1.isc.freebsd.org/bulk/83i386-default/2013-07-17_14h38m27s/logs/de-bugzilla-4.4.log
 http://beefy2.isc.freebsd.org/bulk/83amd64-default/2013-07-17_14h39m18s/logs/de-bugzilla-4.4.log
 
 
 Maybe someone can enlighten my
 
 --
 olli

No it always starts from a clean room, 100% sure of it.

I still have lot of work on the cluster right now, next week I'll probably have
more time to help

regards,
Bapt


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Re: [HEADSUP] New mailing pkg-fallout

2013-07-18 Thread olli hauer
On 2013-07-18 21:09, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
 On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 09:04:09PM +0200, olli hauer wrote:
 On 2013-07-17 18:57, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
 Hi all, 

 If you are a committer or if you are maintainer it is highly recommanded for
 you to subscribe to the pkg-fallout mailing list.

 http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-pkg-fallout

 This list receive all the failures mails from the package building cluster.
 Please keep in eye on this list and make sure none of your ports or the 
 ports
 you care about are failing.

 Right now the mailing list receive the failures from the experimental 
 package
 building for pkgng packages.

 Soon we will add a continuous building server which will have stricter QA 
 rules.

 regards,
 Bapt


 Hm, I just picked the bugzilla44 port and struggle over the logs.

 ===  de-bugzilla-4.4 conflicts with installed package(s): 
   bugzilla-4.2.6

   They install files into the same place.
   Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1).
 *** Error code 1

 But I found no hint in the log that bugzilla-4.2.6 was installed before. [1]

 The same issue for was raised for the de-bugzilla port, I suspect 
 (ru|ja)-bugzilla44 and (de|ru|ja)-bugzilla will fail with the same issue.

 Is it possible that the new builds do not start with a clean build 
 environment?

 [1]
 http://beefy1.isc.freebsd.org/bulk/83i386-default/2013-07-17_14h38m27s/logs/de-bugzilla-4.4.log
 http://beefy2.isc.freebsd.org/bulk/83amd64-default/2013-07-17_14h39m18s/logs/de-bugzilla-4.4.log


 Maybe someone can enlighten my

 --
 olli
 
 No it always starts from a clean room, 100% sure of it.
 
 I still have lot of work on the cluster right now, next week I'll probably 
 have
 more time to help
 

OK, maybe you see why the issue was raised.
I really have no idea since I haven't seen this on my tinderbox builds.

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[HEADSUP] New mailing pkg-fallout

2013-07-17 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
Hi all, 

If you are a committer or if you are maintainer it is highly recommanded for
you to subscribe to the pkg-fallout mailing list.

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-pkg-fallout

This list receive all the failures mails from the package building cluster.
Please keep in eye on this list and make sure none of your ports or the ports
you care about are failing.

Right now the mailing list receive the failures from the experimental package
building for pkgng packages.

Soon we will add a continuous building server which will have stricter QA rules.

regards,
Bapt


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Re: [HEADSUP] New mailing pkg-fallout

2013-07-17 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
The volume unsustainable.
I unsubscribed already.

I suggest the mail is sent to maintainers only.
For unmaintained ports something similar to pointyhat
would be helpful:
 http://pointyhat.freebsd.org/errorlogs/amd64-8-previous/

Thanks

Anton
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