Re: DEFAULT_VERSIONS+=llvm=90 ignored?
On 2020-Dec-5, at 07:02, Steve Kargl wrote: > On Sat, Dec 05, 2020 at 01:18:34AM -0800, Mark Millard wrote: >> Steve Kargl sgk at troutmask.apl.washington.edu wrote on: >>> >>> Well, I guess that pretty much kills LLVM_DEFAULT for any >>> modern hardware (even a 8 year old laptop) that uses drm >>> unless a user wants base-system llvm, llvm90, and llvm10 >>> installed. One will certainly be able to compile any >>> c/c++ thrown ones way. >> >> LLVM's API seems to be unstable enough from LLVM release to >> LLVM release that maintaining many-release build compatibility >> for projects using the LLVM API is not all that common. > > I'm well aware the llvm API instability, which comes back > to the irrelevance of LLVM_DEFAULT. Someday llvm may get > it's act together. I frequently have LLVM set to more recent than the from-svn /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.default-versions.mk indicates, for other reasons than minimizing the number of LLVM builds/installs. Seems to work fine for such in my limited context. === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Mar) ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: DEFAULT_VERSIONS+=llvm=90 ignored?
On Sat, Dec 05, 2020 at 01:18:34AM -0800, Mark Millard wrote: > Steve Kargl sgk at troutmask.apl.washington.edu wrote on: > > > > Well, I guess that pretty much kills LLVM_DEFAULT for any > > modern hardware (even a 8 year old laptop) that uses drm > > unless a user wants base-system llvm, llvm90, and llvm10 > > installed. One will certainly be able to compile any > > c/c++ thrown ones way. > > LLVM's API seems to be unstable enough from LLVM release to > LLVM release that maintaining many-release build compatibility > for projects using the LLVM API is not all that common. I'm well aware the llvm API instability, which comes back to the irrelevance of LLVM_DEFAULT. Someday llvm may get it's act together. -- Steve ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: DEFAULT_VERSIONS+=llvm=90 ignored?
Steve Kargl sgk at troutmask.apl.washington.edu wrote on: Fri Dec 4 22:59:46 UTC 2020 > On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 11:41:41PM +0100, Jan Beich wrote: > > Steve Kargl writes: > > > > > It takes a long time to compile on my laptop. I have > > > > > > DEFAULT_VERSIONS+=llvm=90 > > > > Why do you need to redefine current default? > > Simply changed /etc/make.conf on my laptop from 80 to 90 > when I got a similar problem trying to rebuild gnuplot. > Getting llvm10 when LLVM_DEFAULT=80 or 90 seems dubious. > > > Mk/bsd.default-versions.mk: > > LLVM_DEFAULT?= 90 > > > > > % portmaster -Byd gnuplot > > > ... > > > Install devel/llvm10 > > > ... > > > Install devel/llvm90 > > > > devel/llvm10 is pinned by graphics/mesa-* likely to reduce QA after a > > fiasco in bug 239682. Trying to unpin in bug 250869 was rejected. > > > > graphics/mesa-dri/Makefile.common: > > LLVM_DEFAULT= 10 > > Well, I guess that pretty much kills LLVM_DEFAULT for any > modern hardware (even a 8 year old laptop) that uses drm > unless a user wants base-system llvm, llvm90, and llvm10 > installed. One will certainly be able to compile any > c/c++ thrown ones way. LLVM's API seems to be unstable enough from LLVM release to LLVM release that maintaining many-release build compatibility for projects using the LLVM API is not all that common. I expect that graphics/mesa-* is using the LLVM API, not just clang/clang++ compilers. Base-system LLVM does not provide the API (too unstable to hold unchanged for a FreeBSD release support period). So base-system LLVM is not an option for things using the LLVM API. Having all ports using the same LLVM API release is probably not an option (upstream issues). In other words: software that chooses to be in part based on the LLVM API tends to lead to needing various vintages of LLVM to be installed. === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Mar) ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: DEFAULT_VERSIONS+=llvm=90 ignored?
Steve Kargl writes: > On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 11:41:41PM +0100, Jan Beich wrote: >> devel/llvm10 is pinned by graphics/mesa-* likely to reduce QA after a >> fiasco in bug 239682. Trying to unpin in bug 250869 was rejected. >> >> graphics/mesa-dri/Makefile.common: >> LLVM_DEFAULT=10 > > Well, I guess that pretty much kills LLVM_DEFAULT for any > modern hardware (even a 8 year old laptop) that uses drm > unless a user wants base-system llvm, llvm90, and llvm10 > installed. One will certainly be able to compile any > c/c++ thrown ones way. ports/ started as a collection of hacks, so just hack mesa* to override LLVM_DEFAULT or switch to DEFAULT_VERSIONS+=llvm=10. Otherwise, use binary packages for heavy dependencies. I think, only AMD GPUs need LLVM support in Mesa. graphics/mesa-dri is not flexible enough to choose which drivers to build. In graphics/mesa-devel it's possible to disable AMD drivers and LLVM support. For example, "iris" driver works fine on Intel HD530 (Skylake) with LLVM disabled. ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: DEFAULT_VERSIONS+=llvm=90 ignored?
On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 11:41:41PM +0100, Jan Beich wrote: > Steve Kargl writes: > > > It takes a long time to compile on my laptop. I have > > > > DEFAULT_VERSIONS+=llvm=90 > > Why do you need to redefine current default? Simply changed /etc/make.conf on my laptop from 80 to 90 when I got a similar problem trying to rebuild gnuplot. Getting llvm10 when LLVM_DEFAULT=80 or 90 seems dubious. > Mk/bsd.default-versions.mk: > LLVM_DEFAULT?=90 > > > % portmaster -Byd gnuplot > > ... > > Install devel/llvm10 > > ... > > Install devel/llvm90 > > devel/llvm10 is pinned by graphics/mesa-* likely to reduce QA after a > fiasco in bug 239682. Trying to unpin in bug 250869 was rejected. > > graphics/mesa-dri/Makefile.common: > LLVM_DEFAULT= 10 Well, I guess that pretty much kills LLVM_DEFAULT for any modern hardware (even a 8 year old laptop) that uses drm unless a user wants base-system llvm, llvm90, and llvm10 installed. One will certainly be able to compile any c/c++ thrown ones way. -- Steve ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: DEFAULT_VERSIONS+=llvm=90 ignored?
On Sat, 05 Dec 2020 05:35:07 +0900, Steve Kargl wrote: > > It takes a long time to compile on my laptop. I have > > DEFAULT_VERSIONS+=llvm=90 > > in my /etc/make.conf. I go to update gnuplot and get > > % portmaster -Byd gnuplot > ... > Install devel/llvm10 > ... > Install devel/llvm90 > > Does it really take two versions of llvm to compile > gnuplot and dependencies? Is something broken in > the ports *.mk files? In recent ports (at least r555444) many ports need deferent llvm versions, so it would be no wonder. It's strange that many ports could not built because llvm* headers can't refer. Such ports are devel/qt5-qmake, devel/xxhash, dns/bind916, graphics/frei0r, graphics/opencv, graphics/openjpeg , ... --- Kazuhiko Kiriyama ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: DEFAULT_VERSIONS+=llvm=90 ignored?
Steve Kargl writes: > It takes a long time to compile on my laptop. I have > > DEFAULT_VERSIONS+=llvm=90 Why do you need to redefine current default? Mk/bsd.default-versions.mk: LLVM_DEFAULT?= 90 > % portmaster -Byd gnuplot > ... > Install devel/llvm10 > ... > Install devel/llvm90 devel/llvm10 is pinned by graphics/mesa-* likely to reduce QA after a fiasco in bug 239682. Trying to unpin in bug 250869 was rejected. graphics/mesa-dri/Makefile.common: LLVM_DEFAULT= 10 ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
DEFAULT_VERSIONS+=llvm=90 ignored?
It takes a long time to compile on my laptop. I have DEFAULT_VERSIONS+=llvm=90 in my /etc/make.conf. I go to update gnuplot and get % portmaster -Byd gnuplot ... Install devel/llvm10 ... Install devel/llvm90 Does it really take two versions of llvm to compile gnuplot and dependencies? Is something broken in the ports *.mk files? -- Steve ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
