Re: FreeBSD not so free anymore ? Long live FreeBSD...

2012-06-17 Thread Erich
Hi,

On 15 June 2012 13:57:27 Michael Scheidell wrote:
 
 On 6/15/12 1:53 PM, Etienne Robillard wrote:
  A good reason to stop using this bloated OS if you ask me and use
  something more respectful to their users base relaying on STABLE for 
  stability reasons...
 PLEASE use linux.. they need you and love you.

you should not do this to your worst enemy.

Erich
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Re: FreeBSD not so free anymore ? Long live FreeBSD...

2012-06-16 Thread Chris Rees
On Jun 15, 2012 10:13 PM, Jerry je...@seibercom.net wrote:

 On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 19:12:58 +0100
 Chris Rees articulated:

 On 15 June 2012 18:53, Etienne Robillard animelo...@gmail.com wrote:
  On 06/15/2012 01:08 PM, Jerry wrote:
 
  Skype 4.0 for Linux is now available. Is there any possibility of
  getting it ported to FreeBSD? The latest version in ports is only
  2.x.
 
  Why not? Thinking FreeBSD could become immune to remote exploits is
  absurd.
 
  So without much efforts  I can guess ports like Skype will become
  more widespread now that FreeBSD has gived up on network security,
  preferring to announce critical security vulnerabilities once the
  exploit has been confirmed without any warnings.
 
  A good reason to stop using this bloated OS if you ask me and use
  something more respectful to their users base relaying on STABLE for
  stability reasons...
 
 New versions of Skype require ALSA.  This is at their insistence.

 So, are you implying that ALSA (Advanced Linux Sound Architecture)
 is never going to happen on a FreeBSD system?

It is unnecessary.

Chris
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Re: FreeBSD not so free anymore ? Long live FreeBSD...

2012-06-16 Thread Matt Dawson
On Sat, 16 Jun 2012 12:00:47 + (UTC)
Jerry je...@seibercom.net wrote:

 So, are you implying that ALSA (Advanced Linux Sound Architecture)
 is never going to happen on a FreeBSD system?

Our OSS sound subsystem works (and allows multiple access) without
twenty different sound servers, mixers, shim layers and much faffing
about, which is how we like it. So no, it's very unlikely we the users
are going to put up with some putz wanting to swap that for something
that only works when the planets are in the correct alignment after the
use of some mystical incantation and the ritual sacrifice of a gnu
just to get Skype (which is now owned by MS and is also now a conduit
for yet more advertising) going. Sound is one of the things FreeBSD
gets very right and most reasonably portable applications are just fine
with our implementation of it.

There's a compat port for those who want/need the ALSA API.
-- 
Matt Dawson
MTD15-RIPE
GW0VNR


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FreeBSD not so free anymore ? Long live FreeBSD...

2012-06-15 Thread Etienne Robillard

On 06/15/2012 01:08 PM, Jerry wrote:

Skype 4.0 for Linux is now available. Is there any possibility of
getting it ported to FreeBSD? The latest version in ports is only
2.x.



Why not? Thinking FreeBSD could become immune to remote exploits is absurd.

So without much efforts  I can guess ports like Skype will become more 
widespread now that FreeBSD has gived up on network security, preferring 
to announce critical security vulnerabilities once the exploit has been 
confirmed without any warnings.


A good reason to stop using this bloated OS if you ask me and use
something more respectful to their users base relaying on STABLE for 
stability reasons...


Cheers,

E

--
Etienne Robillard
Occupation: Software Developer
Company:Green Tea Hackers Club
Email:  e...@gthcfoundation.org
Website:gthcfoundation.org
Skype ID:   incidah
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Re: FreeBSD not so free anymore ? Long live FreeBSD...

2012-06-15 Thread Michael Scheidell



On 6/15/12 1:53 PM, Etienne Robillard wrote:

A good reason to stop using this bloated OS if you ask me and use
something more respectful to their users base relaying on STABLE for 
stability reasons...

PLEASE use linux.. they need you and love you.

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Re: FreeBSD not so free anymore ? Long live FreeBSD...

2012-06-15 Thread Chris Rees
On 15 June 2012 18:53, Etienne Robillard animelo...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 06/15/2012 01:08 PM, Jerry wrote:

 Skype 4.0 for Linux is now available. Is there any possibility of
 getting it ported to FreeBSD? The latest version in ports is only
 2.x.



 Why not? Thinking FreeBSD could become immune to remote exploits is absurd.

 So without much efforts  I can guess ports like Skype will become more
 widespread now that FreeBSD has gived up on network security, preferring to
 announce critical security vulnerabilities once the exploit has been
 confirmed without any warnings.

 A good reason to stop using this bloated OS if you ask me and use
 something more respectful to their users base relaying on STABLE for
 stability reasons...


New versions of Skype require ALSA.  This is at their insistence.

Chris
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Re: FreeBSD not so free anymore ? Long live FreeBSD...

2012-06-15 Thread Jerry
On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 19:12:58 +0100
Chris Rees articulated:

On 15 June 2012 18:53, Etienne Robillard animelo...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 06/15/2012 01:08 PM, Jerry wrote:

 Skype 4.0 for Linux is now available. Is there any possibility of
 getting it ported to FreeBSD? The latest version in ports is only
 2.x.

 Why not? Thinking FreeBSD could become immune to remote exploits is
 absurd.

 So without much efforts  I can guess ports like Skype will become
 more widespread now that FreeBSD has gived up on network security,
 preferring to announce critical security vulnerabilities once the
 exploit has been confirmed without any warnings.

 A good reason to stop using this bloated OS if you ask me and use
 something more respectful to their users base relaying on STABLE for
 stability reasons...

New versions of Skype require ALSA.  This is at their insistence.

So, are you implying that ALSA (Advanced Linux Sound Architecture)
is never going to happen on a FreeBSD system?

By the way, thanks to Etienne Robillard animelo...@gmail.com for
completely changing the thread subject.

-- 
Jerry ♔

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