Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-22 Thread Alexander Nedotsukov

On Wed, 22 Apr 2009 10:22:41 +0400 (MSD), Dmitry Morozovsky

wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Apr 2009, Alexander Nedotsukov wrote:
> 
> AN> > Well, then I suppose we should at least say something about this in
release
> AN> > notes, because in 7.2 one of *major* desktop application sets
conflicts with 
> AN> > one of the *widest* server component.
> AN> 
> AN> What do you propose to write in the release notes which could help
Apache
> AN> 1.3+ lovers?
> 
> Something like
> 
> Full GNOME 2.26 installation is incompatible with Apache HTTP Server 1.3
> due to user-share GNOME component dependency on apache22.  To resolve the
issue, 
> either install gnome2-lite package or upgrade apache13 to apache22.

This seems to be almost obvious to me. But surely can be stressed out.
Am I right to assume we are talking about entry in ports/UPDATING?

> 
> 
> AN> And may I in turn quote a bit of another release notes:
> AN> 
> AN> http://www.apache.org/dist/httpd/Announcement1.3.html
> AN> 
> AN> "We strongly recommend that users of all earlier versions, including
1.3
> AN> family release, upgrade to to the current 2.2 version as soon as
possible."
> AN> 
> AN> :-^)
> 
> Please note that this recommendation is not located on HTTP server home
page, 
> and 1.3 releases are still listed there, and not marked as "legacy"

http://httpd.apache.org/

"The Apache Group is pleased to announce the *legacy* release of the 1.3.41
version of the Apache HTTP Server."

> 
> Also, there are still rather wide set of httpd modules which are written
for 
> 1.3 only :(

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Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-21 Thread Dmitry Morozovsky
On Wed, 22 Apr 2009, Alexander Nedotsukov wrote:

AN> > Well, then I suppose we should at least say something about this in
AN> release
AN> > notes, because in 7.2 one of *major* desktop application sets conflicts
AN> with 
AN> > one of the *widest* server component.
AN> 
AN> What do you propose to write in the release notes which could help Apache
AN> 1.3+ lovers?

Something like

Full GNOME 2.26 installation is incompatible with Apache HTTP Server 1.3 due to 
user-share GNOME component dependency on apache22.  To resolve the issue, 
either install gnome2-lite package or upgrade apache13 to apache22.


AN> And may I in turn quote a bit of another release notes:
AN> 
AN> http://www.apache.org/dist/httpd/Announcement1.3.html
AN> 
AN> "We strongly recommend that users of all earlier versions, including 1.3
AN> family release, upgrade to to the current 2.2 version as soon as possible."
AN> 
AN> :-^)

Please note that this recommendation is not located on HTTP server home page, 
and 1.3 releases are still listed there, and not marked as "legacy"

Also, there are still rather wide set of httpd modules which are written for 
1.3 only :(

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Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-21 Thread Alexander Nedotsukov

On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 16:19:30 +0400 (MSD), Dmitry Morozovsky

wrote:
> JMC> Actually, I have always shied away from such things.  We regularly
get
> JMC> requests to change the meta-port, but we long ago took the
philosophy to
> JMC> keep the Desktop meta-port as close to the official set of GNOME
Desktop
> JMC> components as possible.  If we add an option for this, then we slide
> JMC> down the slope of making everything optional.
> JMC> 
> JMC> In the past I've simply prompted people to create their own local
> JMC> meta-ports, or install x11/gnome2-lite (no user-share there), then
build
> JMC> on that for what they need.
> 
> Well, then I suppose we should at least say something about this in
release
> notes, because in 7.2 one of *major* desktop application sets conflicts
with 
> one of the *widest* server component.

What do you propose to write in the release notes which could help Apache
1.3+ lovers?
And may I in turn quote a bit of another release notes:

http://www.apache.org/dist/httpd/Announcement1.3.html

"We strongly recommend that users of all earlier versions, including 1.3
family release, upgrade to to the current 2.2 version as soon as possible."

:-^)


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Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-21 Thread Dmitry Morozovsky
On Sun, 19 Apr 2009, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:

JMC> > JMC> > Hmm, so currently there is no way to install gnome2 without 
requiring apache22?
JMC> > JMC> 
JMC> > JMC> Correct.  You could, of course, go through the meta-port, and remove
JMC> > JMC> gnome-user-share on your own (i.e. build your own customized 
meta-port).
JMC> > 
JMC> > Well, would you object to the following quick fix?
JMC> 
JMC> Actually, I have always shied away from such things.  We regularly get
JMC> requests to change the meta-port, but we long ago took the philosophy to
JMC> keep the Desktop meta-port as close to the official set of GNOME Desktop
JMC> components as possible.  If we add an option for this, then we slide
JMC> down the slope of making everything optional.
JMC> 
JMC> In the past I've simply prompted people to create their own local
JMC> meta-ports, or install x11/gnome2-lite (no user-share there), then build
JMC> on that for what they need.

Well, then I suppose we should at least say something about this in release 
notes, because in 7.2 one of *major* desktop application sets conflicts with 
one of the *widest* server component.

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Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-19 Thread Joe Marcus Clarke
On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 21:05 +0400, Dmitry Morozovsky wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Apr 2009, Robert Noland wrote:
> 
> [snip all]
> 
> RN> > Yes, seahorse shows me two keyrings; however, deleting "login" one does 
> not fix 
> RN> > the situation: if in the Terminal I try to open tab which ssh's to 
> outer host, 
> RN> > I immediately got the popup with 
> RN> > 
> RN> > "There was an error creating the child process for this terminal"
> RN> > 
> RN> > nothing in this tab is started, and tab is just hanging.
> RN> > 
> RN> > "login" keyring sometimes got recreated, sometimes not, but the effect 
> above is 
> RN> > totally reproducible.
> RN> 
> RN> If I am following this correctly, the functionality you are talking
> RN> about is actually provided by seahorse-agent, which is installed with
> RN> the seahorse-plugins port now.  Unless something has changed with the
> RN> default session (and I don't think it has, since my keyrings still work)
> RN> we wrap the session with ssh-agent and seahorse-agent if they are found.
> 
> Aha! Yes, and seahorse-plugins was not installed; moreover, one of its 
> dependencies (pth) conflicted with pth-hard installed previously. I'll try to 
> clean this up and report the results.

I just discovered two serious bugs in seahorse and gnome-keyring that
may be messing you up.  I have committed fixes to the ports-stable
module in MarcusCom CVS pending the ports thaw.  You can access the
report using the instructions at
http://www.marcuscom.com:8080/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi .

Joe

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Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-19 Thread Joe Marcus Clarke
On Sat, 2009-04-18 at 13:47 +0400, Dmitry Morozovsky wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Apr 2009, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:
> 
> JMC> > JMC> > Another question: is there a way to avoid apache22 install (i 
> have apache13 
> JMC> > JMC> > installed and have no current plans to upgrade) ? I tried to 
> chase 
> JMC> > JMC> > options but failed.
> JMC> > JMC> 
> JMC> > JMC> Not by using the meta-port.  This is required for 
> gnome-user-share which
> JMC> > JMC> is now part of the GNOME Desktop.
> JMC> > 
> JMC> > Hmm, so currently there is no way to install gnome2 without requiring 
> apache22?
> JMC> 
> JMC> Correct.  You could, of course, go through the meta-port, and remove
> JMC> gnome-user-share on your own (i.e. build your own customized meta-port).
> 
> Well, would you object to the following quick fix?

Actually, I have always shied away from such things.  We regularly get
requests to change the meta-port, but we long ago took the philosophy to
keep the Desktop meta-port as close to the official set of GNOME Desktop
components as possible.  If we add an option for this, then we slide
down the slope of making everything optional.

In the past I've simply prompted people to create their own local
meta-ports, or install x11/gnome2-lite (no user-share there), then build
on that for what they need.

Joe

> 
> Index: x11/gnome2/Makefile
> ===
> RCS file: /home/ncvs/ports/x11/gnome2/Makefile,v
> retrieving revision 1.154
> diff -u -r1.154 Makefile
> --- x11/gnome2/Makefile 10 Apr 2009 05:56:18 -  1.154
> +++ x11/gnome2/Makefile 18 Apr 2009 09:26:50 -
> @@ -68,7 +68,8 @@
>  .endif
>  
>  .if !defined(GNOME_SLAVE) || ${.CURDIR:T}=="gnome2-lite"
> -OPTIONS=   XSCREENSAVER "Use xscreensaver as screen saver app" off
> +OPTIONS=   XSCREENSAVER "Use xscreensaver as screen saver app" off \
> +   USER_SHARE "Use gnome-user-share for file sharing" on
>  .endif
>  
>  do-install:# empty
> @@ -90,9 +91,11 @@
> swfdec-player:${PORTSDIR}/multimedia/swfdec-gnome \
> vinagre:${PORTSDIR}/net/vinagre \
> brasero:${PORTSDIR}/sysutils/brasero \
> -   gnome-file-share-properties:${PORTSDIR}/www/gnome-user-share \
> 
> ${LOCALBASE}/lib/deskbar-applet/deskbar-applet:${PORTSDIR}/deskutils/deskbar-applet
>  
> \
> 
> ${LOCALBASE}/lib/hamster-applet/hamster-applet:${PORTSDIR}/deskutils/hamster-applet
> +.if !defined(WITHOUT_USER_SHARE)
> +RUN_DEPENDS+= gnome-file-share-properties:${PORTSDIR}/www/gnome-user-share
> +.endif
>  .if ${ARCH} == "i386"
>  #RUN_DEPENDS+= tomboy:${PORTSDIR}/deskutils/tomboy
>  .endif
>  
> 
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Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-18 Thread Jeremy Messenger

On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 10:38:35 -0500, Jeremy Messenger  wrote:

On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 10:15:59 -0500, Dmitry Morozovsky   
wrote:



On Sat, 18 Apr 2009, Jeremy Messenger wrote:

JM> > JMC> > JMC> > Another question: is there a way to avoid apache22  
install

JM> > (i have apache13
JM> > JMC> > JMC> > installed and have no current plans to upgrade) ? I  
tried to

JM> > chase
JM> > JMC> > JMC> > options but failed.
JM> > JMC> > JMC>
JM> > JMC> > JMC> Not by using the meta-port.  This is required for
JM> > gnome-user-share which
JM> > JMC> > JMC> is now part of the GNOME Desktop.
JM> > JMC> >
JM> > JMC> > Hmm, so currently there is no way to install gnome2 without
JM> > requiring apache22?
JM> > JMC>
JM> > JMC> Correct.  You could, of course, go through the meta-port,  
and remove

JM> > JMC> gnome-user-share on your own (i.e. build your own customized
JM> > meta-port).
JM> >
JM> > Well, would you object to the following quick fix?
JM>
JM> Wel.. I object. marcus also said that you only can do in your own  
system, so
JM> it means we don't want to add any option in x11/gnome2. We always  
turn down
JM> that kind of patch unless no choice for limit size to build  
packages in CD

JM> for the release.

I hope I understand your intentions, but this is not the first options  
for the

metaport, heh? ;-)

My main concern is that many my colleagues work on desktop systems  
which they
are using as sorta "personal websevers" too, not too resource hungry,  
hence
apache 1.3.  From the last upgrade the only way to achieve it on a  
single

machine is to split Gnome and apache to separate jails...


I didn't exactly read previous thread, but you do have a good point.

I am surpised about that gnome-user-share doesn't use gvfs. Isn't gvfs  
supposed to be already support WebDAV (gvfs-dav)?


Nevermind about that gvfs part. Clearly wake up and type email is a bad  
idea.



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Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-18 Thread Jeremy Messenger
On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 10:15:59 -0500, Dmitry Morozovsky   
wrote:



On Sat, 18 Apr 2009, Jeremy Messenger wrote:

JM> > JMC> > JMC> > Another question: is there a way to avoid apache22  
install

JM> > (i have apache13
JM> > JMC> > JMC> > installed and have no current plans to upgrade) ? I  
tried to

JM> > chase
JM> > JMC> > JMC> > options but failed.
JM> > JMC> > JMC>
JM> > JMC> > JMC> Not by using the meta-port.  This is required for
JM> > gnome-user-share which
JM> > JMC> > JMC> is now part of the GNOME Desktop.
JM> > JMC> >
JM> > JMC> > Hmm, so currently there is no way to install gnome2 without
JM> > requiring apache22?
JM> > JMC>
JM> > JMC> Correct.  You could, of course, go through the meta-port, and  
remove

JM> > JMC> gnome-user-share on your own (i.e. build your own customized
JM> > meta-port).
JM> >
JM> > Well, would you object to the following quick fix?
JM>
JM> Wel.. I object. marcus also said that you only can do in your own  
system, so
JM> it means we don't want to add any option in x11/gnome2. We always  
turn down
JM> that kind of patch unless no choice for limit size to build packages  
in CD

JM> for the release.

I hope I understand your intentions, but this is not the first options  
for the

metaport, heh? ;-)

My main concern is that many my colleagues work on desktop systems which  
they
are using as sorta "personal websevers" too, not too resource hungry,  
hence

apache 1.3.  From the last upgrade the only way to achieve it on a single
machine is to split Gnome and apache to separate jails...


I didn't exactly read previous thread, but you do have a good point.

I am surpised about that gnome-user-share doesn't use gvfs. Isn't gvfs  
supposed to be already support WebDAV (gvfs-dav)?


Cheers,
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Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-18 Thread Dmitry Morozovsky
On Sat, 18 Apr 2009, Jeremy Messenger wrote:

JM> > JMC> > JMC> > Another question: is there a way to avoid apache22 install
JM> > (i have apache13
JM> > JMC> > JMC> > installed and have no current plans to upgrade) ? I tried to
JM> > chase
JM> > JMC> > JMC> > options but failed.
JM> > JMC> > JMC>
JM> > JMC> > JMC> Not by using the meta-port.  This is required for
JM> > gnome-user-share which
JM> > JMC> > JMC> is now part of the GNOME Desktop.
JM> > JMC> >
JM> > JMC> > Hmm, so currently there is no way to install gnome2 without
JM> > requiring apache22?
JM> > JMC>
JM> > JMC> Correct.  You could, of course, go through the meta-port, and remove
JM> > JMC> gnome-user-share on your own (i.e. build your own customized
JM> > meta-port).
JM> > 
JM> > Well, would you object to the following quick fix?
JM> 
JM> Wel.. I object. marcus also said that you only can do in your own system, so
JM> it means we don't want to add any option in x11/gnome2. We always turn down
JM> that kind of patch unless no choice for limit size to build packages in CD
JM> for the release.

I hope I understand your intentions, but this is not the first options for the 
metaport, heh? ;-)

My main concern is that many my colleagues work on desktop systems which they 
are using as sorta "personal websevers" too, not too resource hungry, hence 
apache 1.3.  From the last upgrade the only way to achieve it on a single 
machine is to split Gnome and apache to separate jails...


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Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-18 Thread Jeremy Messenger
On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 04:47:33 -0500, Dmitry Morozovsky   
wrote:



On Tue, 14 Apr 2009, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:

JMC> > JMC> > Another question: is there a way to avoid apache22 install  
(i have apache13
JMC> > JMC> > installed and have no current plans to upgrade) ? I tried  
to chase

JMC> > JMC> > options but failed.
JMC> > JMC>
JMC> > JMC> Not by using the meta-port.  This is required for  
gnome-user-share which

JMC> > JMC> is now part of the GNOME Desktop.
JMC> >
JMC> > Hmm, so currently there is no way to install gnome2 without  
requiring apache22?

JMC>
JMC> Correct.  You could, of course, go through the meta-port, and remove
JMC> gnome-user-share on your own (i.e. build your own customized  
meta-port).


Well, would you object to the following quick fix?


Wel.. I object. marcus also said that you only can do in your own system,  
so it means we don't want to add any option in x11/gnome2. We always turn  
down that kind of patch unless no choice for limit size to build packages  
in CD for the release.


Cheers,
Mezz


Index: x11/gnome2/Makefile
===
RCS file: /home/ncvs/ports/x11/gnome2/Makefile,v
retrieving revision 1.154
diff -u -r1.154 Makefile
--- x11/gnome2/Makefile 10 Apr 2009 05:56:18 -  1.154
+++ x11/gnome2/Makefile 18 Apr 2009 09:26:50 -
@@ -68,7 +68,8 @@
 .endif
.if !defined(GNOME_SLAVE) || ${.CURDIR:T}=="gnome2-lite"
-OPTIONS=   XSCREENSAVER "Use xscreensaver as screen saver app" off
+OPTIONS=   XSCREENSAVER "Use xscreensaver as screen saver app" off \
+   USER_SHARE "Use gnome-user-share for file sharing" on
 .endif
do-install:# empty
@@ -90,9 +91,11 @@
swfdec-player:${PORTSDIR}/multimedia/swfdec-gnome \
vinagre:${PORTSDIR}/net/vinagre \
brasero:${PORTSDIR}/sysutils/brasero \
-
gnome-file-share-properties:${PORTSDIR}/www/gnome-user-share \

${LOCALBASE}/lib/deskbar-applet/deskbar-applet:${PORTSDIR}/deskutils/deskbar-applet
\
${LOCALBASE}/lib/hamster-applet/hamster-applet:${PORTSDIR}/deskutils/hamster-applet
+.if !defined(WITHOUT_USER_SHARE)
+RUN_DEPENDS+=  
gnome-file-share-properties:${PORTSDIR}/www/gnome-user-share

+.endif
 .if ${ARCH} == "i386"
 #RUN_DEPENDS+= tomboy:${PORTSDIR}/deskutils/tomboy
 .endif





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Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-18 Thread Dmitry Morozovsky
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:

JMC> > JMC> > Another question: is there a way to avoid apache22 install (i 
have apache13 
JMC> > JMC> > installed and have no current plans to upgrade) ? I tried to 
chase 
JMC> > JMC> > options but failed.
JMC> > JMC> 
JMC> > JMC> Not by using the meta-port.  This is required for gnome-user-share 
which
JMC> > JMC> is now part of the GNOME Desktop.
JMC> > 
JMC> > Hmm, so currently there is no way to install gnome2 without requiring 
apache22?
JMC> 
JMC> Correct.  You could, of course, go through the meta-port, and remove
JMC> gnome-user-share on your own (i.e. build your own customized meta-port).

Well, would you object to the following quick fix?

Index: x11/gnome2/Makefile
===
RCS file: /home/ncvs/ports/x11/gnome2/Makefile,v
retrieving revision 1.154
diff -u -r1.154 Makefile
--- x11/gnome2/Makefile 10 Apr 2009 05:56:18 -  1.154
+++ x11/gnome2/Makefile 18 Apr 2009 09:26:50 -
@@ -68,7 +68,8 @@
 .endif
 
 .if !defined(GNOME_SLAVE) || ${.CURDIR:T}=="gnome2-lite"
-OPTIONS=   XSCREENSAVER "Use xscreensaver as screen saver app" off
+OPTIONS=   XSCREENSAVER "Use xscreensaver as screen saver app" off \
+   USER_SHARE "Use gnome-user-share for file sharing" on
 .endif
 
 do-install:# empty
@@ -90,9 +91,11 @@
swfdec-player:${PORTSDIR}/multimedia/swfdec-gnome \
vinagre:${PORTSDIR}/net/vinagre \
brasero:${PORTSDIR}/sysutils/brasero \
-   gnome-file-share-properties:${PORTSDIR}/www/gnome-user-share \

${LOCALBASE}/lib/deskbar-applet/deskbar-applet:${PORTSDIR}/deskutils/deskbar-applet
 
\

${LOCALBASE}/lib/hamster-applet/hamster-applet:${PORTSDIR}/deskutils/hamster-applet
+.if !defined(WITHOUT_USER_SHARE)
+RUN_DEPENDS+= gnome-file-share-properties:${PORTSDIR}/www/gnome-user-share
+.endif
 .if ${ARCH} == "i386"
 #RUN_DEPENDS+= tomboy:${PORTSDIR}/deskutils/tomboy
 .endif
 

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Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-18 Thread Dmitry Morozovsky
On Sat, 18 Apr 2009, Dmitry Morozovsky wrote:

DM> SW> > Yes, seahorse shows me two keyrings; however, deleting "login" one 
does not fix 
DM> SW> > the situation: if in the Terminal I try to open tab which ssh's to 
outer host, 
DM> SW> > I immediately got the popup with 
DM> SW> > 
DM> SW> > "There was an error creating the child process for this terminal"
DM> SW> > 
DM> SW> > nothing in this tab is started, and tab is just hanging.
DM> SW> 
DM> SW> I believe this problem is fixed in gnome-keyring 2.26.1. FWIW, the GNOME
DM> SW> SSH agent is part if gnome-keyring.
DM> 
DM> Hmm, I just did portupgrade -f gnome-keyring gnome-terminal, and ensured 
there 
DM> is no additional keyrings. Still, gnome terminal can't start any tab which 
DM> executes ssh :(

Well, the devil finally found somewhere in the settings: I just created new 
user from scratch, relogin into this account, and key-based ssh sessions in the 
Terminal work.  So, I'll clean up my dot directories and try to start a bit 
over ;-)

Thanks all.

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Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-18 Thread Dmitry Morozovsky
On Wed, 15 Apr 2009, Stef Walter wrote:

SW> Dmitry Morozovsky wrote:
SW> > Yes, seahorse shows me two keyrings; however, deleting "login" one does 
not fix 
SW> > the situation: if in the Terminal I try to open tab which ssh's to outer 
host, 
SW> > I immediately got the popup with 
SW> > 
SW> > "There was an error creating the child process for this terminal"
SW> > 
SW> > nothing in this tab is started, and tab is just hanging.
SW> 
SW> I believe this problem is fixed in gnome-keyring 2.26.1. FWIW, the GNOME
SW> SSH agent is part if gnome-keyring.

Hmm, I just did portupgrade -f gnome-keyring gnome-terminal, and ensured there 
is no additional keyrings. Still, gnome terminal can't start any tab which 
executes ssh :(


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Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-15 Thread Stef Walter
Dmitry Morozovsky wrote:
> Yes, seahorse shows me two keyrings; however, deleting "login" one does not 
> fix 
> the situation: if in the Terminal I try to open tab which ssh's to outer 
> host, 
> I immediately got the popup with 
> 
> "There was an error creating the child process for this terminal"
> 
> nothing in this tab is started, and tab is just hanging.

I believe this problem is fixed in gnome-keyring 2.26.1. FWIW, the GNOME
SSH agent is part if gnome-keyring.

Cheers,

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Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-14 Thread Joe Marcus Clarke
On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 23:22 +0400, Dmitry Morozovsky wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Apr 2009, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:
> 
> JMC> > JMC> I had assumed you had x11/gnome2 installed which includes
> JMC> > JMC> seahorse-plugins.  I find people that expect to be using 
> seahorse-agent
> JMC> > JMC> are using the entire GNOME Desktop.
> JMC> > 
> JMC> > Another question: is there a way to avoid apache22 install (i have 
> apache13 
> JMC> > installed and have no current plans to upgrade) ? I tried to chase 
> JMC> > options but failed.
> JMC> 
> JMC> Not by using the meta-port.  This is required for gnome-user-share which
> JMC> is now part of the GNOME Desktop.
> 
> Hmm, so currently there is no way to install gnome2 without requiring 
> apache22?

Correct.  You could, of course, go through the meta-port, and remove
gnome-user-share on your own (i.e. build your own customized meta-port).

Joe

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Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-14 Thread Dmitry Morozovsky
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:

JMC> > JMC> I had assumed you had x11/gnome2 installed which includes
JMC> > JMC> seahorse-plugins.  I find people that expect to be using 
seahorse-agent
JMC> > JMC> are using the entire GNOME Desktop.
JMC> > 
JMC> > Another question: is there a way to avoid apache22 install (i have 
apache13 
JMC> > installed and have no current plans to upgrade) ? I tried to chase 
JMC> > options but failed.
JMC> 
JMC> Not by using the meta-port.  This is required for gnome-user-share which
JMC> is now part of the GNOME Desktop.

Hmm, so currently there is no way to install gnome2 without requiring apache22?

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Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-14 Thread Joe Marcus Clarke
On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 22:20 +0400, Dmitry Morozovsky wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Apr 2009, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:
> 
> JMC> I had assumed you had x11/gnome2 installed which includes
> JMC> seahorse-plugins.  I find people that expect to be using seahorse-agent
> JMC> are using the entire GNOME Desktop.
> 
> Another question: is there a way to avoid apache22 install (i have apache13 
> installed and have no current plans to upgrade) ? I tried to chase 
> options but failed.

Not by using the meta-port.  This is required for gnome-user-share which
is now part of the GNOME Desktop.

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Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-14 Thread Dmitry Morozovsky
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:

JMC> I had assumed you had x11/gnome2 installed which includes
JMC> seahorse-plugins.  I find people that expect to be using seahorse-agent
JMC> are using the entire GNOME Desktop.

Another question: is there a way to avoid apache22 install (i have apache13 
installed and have no current plans to upgrade) ? I tried to chase 
options but failed.

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Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-14 Thread Dmitry Morozovsky
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:

JMC> > RN> If I am following this correctly, the functionality you are talking
JMC> > RN> about is actually provided by seahorse-agent, which is installed with
JMC> > RN> the seahorse-plugins port now.  Unless something has changed with the
JMC> > RN> default session (and I don't think it has, since my keyrings still 
work)
JMC> > RN> we wrap the session with ssh-agent and seahorse-agent if they are 
found.
JMC> > 
JMC> > Aha! Yes, and seahorse-plugins was not installed; moreover, one of its 
JMC> > dependencies (pth) conflicted with pth-hard installed previously. I'll 
try to 
JMC> > clean this up and report the results.
JMC> 
JMC> I had assumed you had x11/gnome2 installed which includes
JMC> seahorse-plugins.  I find people that expect to be using seahorse-agent
JMC> are using the entire GNOME Desktop.

Well, I did ;-)

Somehow during the upgrade gnome2 meta-port had been uninstalled, hence missing 
portupgrade -a.

I'm now in progress of portupgrade -N gnome2, will report the results.

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Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-14 Thread Joe Marcus Clarke
On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 21:05 +0400, Dmitry Morozovsky wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Apr 2009, Robert Noland wrote:
> 
> [snip all]
> 
> RN> > Yes, seahorse shows me two keyrings; however, deleting "login" one does 
> not fix 
> RN> > the situation: if in the Terminal I try to open tab which ssh's to 
> outer host, 
> RN> > I immediately got the popup with 
> RN> > 
> RN> > "There was an error creating the child process for this terminal"
> RN> > 
> RN> > nothing in this tab is started, and tab is just hanging.
> RN> > 
> RN> > "login" keyring sometimes got recreated, sometimes not, but the effect 
> above is 
> RN> > totally reproducible.
> RN> 
> RN> If I am following this correctly, the functionality you are talking
> RN> about is actually provided by seahorse-agent, which is installed with
> RN> the seahorse-plugins port now.  Unless something has changed with the
> RN> default session (and I don't think it has, since my keyrings still work)
> RN> we wrap the session with ssh-agent and seahorse-agent if they are found.
> 
> Aha! Yes, and seahorse-plugins was not installed; moreover, one of its 
> dependencies (pth) conflicted with pth-hard installed previously. I'll try to 
> clean this up and report the results.

I had assumed you had x11/gnome2 installed which includes
seahorse-plugins.  I find people that expect to be using seahorse-agent
are using the entire GNOME Desktop.

Joe

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Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-14 Thread Olivier SMEDTS
2009/4/14 Michal Varga :
> On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Dmitry Morozovsky  wrote:
>> On Tue, 14 Apr 2009, Michal Varga wrote:
>
>> Yes, it's Gnome Terminal, see $SUBJ ;-)
>>
>> I just filled 'ssh -e none host' in execute command field.
>>
>> Before upgrade to 2.26 everything is worked like a charm -- on a first 
>> external
>> connect, seahorse popup appears, asks me for a passphrase, and subsequent
>> external sessions works automagically.
>>
> I'm still puzzled with that, by execute command field i guess you mean
> "[x] run a custom command instead of my shell" in gnome-terminal
> preferences. Bud where'd you get the ssh/seahorse functionality?
>
> Let's assume the 'ssh' will run the first ssh in path, that is by default
>
> $ which ssh
> /usr/bin/ssh
>
> $ ssh -V
> OpenSSH_5.1p1 FreeBSD-20080901, OpenSSL 0.9.8e 23 Feb 2007
>
> But where does your seahorse powered ssh client come from?

It's an ssh agent, not an ssh client. I think it defines some SSH_*
env variables at session opening, which are used by /usr/bin/ssh.


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Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-14 Thread Dmitry Morozovsky
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009, Robert Noland wrote:

[snip all]

RN> > Yes, seahorse shows me two keyrings; however, deleting "login" one does 
not fix 
RN> > the situation: if in the Terminal I try to open tab which ssh's to outer 
host, 
RN> > I immediately got the popup with 
RN> > 
RN> > "There was an error creating the child process for this terminal"
RN> > 
RN> > nothing in this tab is started, and tab is just hanging.
RN> > 
RN> > "login" keyring sometimes got recreated, sometimes not, but the effect 
above is 
RN> > totally reproducible.
RN> 
RN> If I am following this correctly, the functionality you are talking
RN> about is actually provided by seahorse-agent, which is installed with
RN> the seahorse-plugins port now.  Unless something has changed with the
RN> default session (and I don't think it has, since my keyrings still work)
RN> we wrap the session with ssh-agent and seahorse-agent if they are found.

Aha! Yes, and seahorse-plugins was not installed; moreover, one of its 
dependencies (pth) conflicted with pth-hard installed previously. I'll try to 
clean this up and report the results.

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Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-14 Thread Michal Varga
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Dmitry Morozovsky  wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Apr 2009, Michal Varga wrote:

> Yes, it's Gnome Terminal, see $SUBJ ;-)
>
> I just filled 'ssh -e none host' in execute command field.
>
> Before upgrade to 2.26 everything is worked like a charm -- on a first 
> external
> connect, seahorse popup appears, asks me for a passphrase, and subsequent
> external sessions works automagically.
>
I'm still puzzled with that, by execute command field i guess you mean
"[x] run a custom command instead of my shell" in gnome-terminal
preferences. Bud where'd you get the ssh/seahorse functionality?

Let's assume the 'ssh' will run the first ssh in path, that is by default

$ which ssh
/usr/bin/ssh

$ ssh -V
OpenSSH_5.1p1 FreeBSD-20080901, OpenSSL 0.9.8e 23 Feb 2007

But where does your seahorse powered ssh client come from?

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Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-14 Thread Dmitry Morozovsky
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009, Michal Varga wrote:

MV> > Yes, seahorse shows me two keyrings; however, deleting "login" one does 
not fix
MV> > the situation: if in the Terminal I try to open tab which ssh's to outer 
host,
MV> > I immediately got the popup with
MV> >
MV> > "There was an error creating the child process for this terminal"
MV> >
MV> > nothing in this tab is started, and tab is just hanging.
MV> >
MV> Out of curiosity, unrelated to your issue - if this is about
MV> interactive ssh [shell] session, do you mean Gnome Terminal?
MV> 
MV> I wasn't aware it can do anything on its own with ssh, normally I run
MV> the regular ssh client inside. How do you ssh directly from Gnome
MV> Terminal (if that's the one you mean) with gnome-keyring/seahorse
MV> capabilities?

Yes, it's Gnome Terminal, see $SUBJ ;-)

I just filled 'ssh -e none host' in execute command field. 

Before upgrade to 2.26 everything is worked like a charm -- on a first external 
connect, seahorse popup appears, asks me for a passphrase, and subsequent 
external sessions works automagically.

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Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-14 Thread Robert Noland
On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 14:24 +0400, Dmitry Morozovsky wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Apr 2009, Michal Varga wrote:
> 
> MV> On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 3:13 AM, Dmitry Morozovsky  wrote:
> MV> > Dear Joe Marcus,
> MV> >
> MV> > DM> JMC> What versions of gnome-keyring and seahorse do you have?
> MV> > DM>
> MV> > DM> ma...@revamp:/usr/ports> pkg_info | egrep 'gnome-keyring|seahorse'
> MV> > DM> gnome-keyring-2.26.0 A program that keeps passwords and other 
> secrets
> MV> > DM> seahorse-2.26.0 GNOME application for managing encryption keys 
> (PGP, SSH)
> MV> >
> MV> > After
> MV> >
> MV> > portupgrade -f seahorse gnome-keyring
> MV> >
> MV> > and reboot
> MV> >
> MV> > still the same effect...
> MV> >
> MV> > Of course, I can wipe packages installed and set it up from scratch, 
> but I
> MV> > would prefer a bit safer way if at all possible ;-)
> MV> >
> MV> Well, I have no idea what a "Terminal remote login" in this particular
> MV> context is, so this may not be of any help, but I've seen this issue
> MV> before:
> MV> 
> MV> "Before the upgrade, I had once pop-up asking for my key passphrase, then
> MV> let me use this private key during my (home) session without further 
> asking..
> MV> Now, when I try to connect to the host which even possibly want to check
> MV> whether I want to present some key there, I got the pop-up. I even 
> checked that
> MV> I can connect to the host in question using plain xterm, and have usual
> MV> password qiery."
> MV> 
> MV> I've been in similiar situation some time ago, when new
> MV> gnome-keyring/seahorse (it started with one of the recent versions,
> MV> don't remember exactly when, but definitely before 2.26 was
> MV> introduced) for some surely interesting reason insisted on creating a
> MV> very own keyring every other reboot - while originally you were using
> MV> one default keyring (let's call it "default") for storing your
> MV> passwords, now gnome-keyring kept creating a new one named "login" and
> MV> always set it as the default one.
> MV> 
> MV> That "login" keyring was even more special in that that nothing stored
> MV> in it ever worked, it still kept asking for passwords and even then
> MV> was not able to use them (and lost them on the next reboot anyway..
> MV> Maybe that's a feature, don't know, don't care). I've run into this on
> MV> a few different machines, every time I needed to open 'seahorse', get
> MV> to Passwords tab, delete the "login" keyring, set the original
> MV> "default" as the default keyring (first time I wiped them all and
> MV> created a clean one to be sure, but as it turned out later, this
> MV> wasn't needed), after that, passwords worked fine again. This
> MV> procedure again and again for a few days/reboots, until seahorse
> MV> miraculously stopped this madness and let my default keyring be, well,
> MV> default (yes, just like that).
> MV> 
> MV> Anyway, if you weren't there yet, check seahorse gui for what keyring
> MV> are you really using, maybe you've hit the same issue with the "login"
> MV> stupidity..
> 
> Yes, seahorse shows me two keyrings; however, deleting "login" one does not 
> fix 
> the situation: if in the Terminal I try to open tab which ssh's to outer 
> host, 
> I immediately got the popup with 
> 
> "There was an error creating the child process for this terminal"
> 
> nothing in this tab is started, and tab is just hanging.
> 
> "login" keyring sometimes got recreated, sometimes not, but the effect above 
> is 
> totally reproducible.

If I am following this correctly, the functionality you are talking
about is actually provided by seahorse-agent, which is installed with
the seahorse-plugins port now.  Unless something has changed with the
default session (and I don't think it has, since my keyrings still work)
we wrap the session with ssh-agent and seahorse-agent if they are found.

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Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-14 Thread Michal Varga
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Dmitry Morozovsky  wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Apr 2009, Michal Varga wrote:
> Yes, seahorse shows me two keyrings; however, deleting "login" one does not 
> fix
> the situation: if in the Terminal I try to open tab which ssh's to outer host,
> I immediately got the popup with
>
> "There was an error creating the child process for this terminal"
>
> nothing in this tab is started, and tab is just hanging.
>
Out of curiosity, unrelated to your issue - if this is about
interactive ssh [shell] session, do you mean Gnome Terminal?

I wasn't aware it can do anything on its own with ssh, normally I run
the regular ssh client inside. How do you ssh directly from Gnome
Terminal (if that's the one you mean) with gnome-keyring/seahorse
capabilities?

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Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-14 Thread Dmitry Morozovsky
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009, Michal Varga wrote:

MV> On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 3:13 AM, Dmitry Morozovsky  wrote:
MV> > Dear Joe Marcus,
MV> >
MV> > DM> JMC> What versions of gnome-keyring and seahorse do you have?
MV> > DM>
MV> > DM> ma...@revamp:/usr/ports> pkg_info | egrep 'gnome-keyring|seahorse'
MV> > DM> gnome-keyring-2.26.0 A program that keeps passwords and other secrets
MV> > DM> seahorse-2.26.0     GNOME application for managing encryption keys 
(PGP, SSH)
MV> >
MV> > After
MV> >
MV> > portupgrade -f seahorse gnome-keyring
MV> >
MV> > and reboot
MV> >
MV> > still the same effect...
MV> >
MV> > Of course, I can wipe packages installed and set it up from scratch, but I
MV> > would prefer a bit safer way if at all possible ;-)
MV> >
MV> Well, I have no idea what a "Terminal remote login" in this particular
MV> context is, so this may not be of any help, but I've seen this issue
MV> before:
MV> 
MV> "Before the upgrade, I had once pop-up asking for my key passphrase, then
MV> let me use this private key during my (home) session without further 
asking..
MV> Now, when I try to connect to the host which even possibly want to check
MV> whether I want to present some key there, I got the pop-up. I even checked 
that
MV> I can connect to the host in question using plain xterm, and have usual
MV> password qiery."
MV> 
MV> I've been in similiar situation some time ago, when new
MV> gnome-keyring/seahorse (it started with one of the recent versions,
MV> don't remember exactly when, but definitely before 2.26 was
MV> introduced) for some surely interesting reason insisted on creating a
MV> very own keyring every other reboot - while originally you were using
MV> one default keyring (let's call it "default") for storing your
MV> passwords, now gnome-keyring kept creating a new one named "login" and
MV> always set it as the default one.
MV> 
MV> That "login" keyring was even more special in that that nothing stored
MV> in it ever worked, it still kept asking for passwords and even then
MV> was not able to use them (and lost them on the next reboot anyway..
MV> Maybe that's a feature, don't know, don't care). I've run into this on
MV> a few different machines, every time I needed to open 'seahorse', get
MV> to Passwords tab, delete the "login" keyring, set the original
MV> "default" as the default keyring (first time I wiped them all and
MV> created a clean one to be sure, but as it turned out later, this
MV> wasn't needed), after that, passwords worked fine again. This
MV> procedure again and again for a few days/reboots, until seahorse
MV> miraculously stopped this madness and let my default keyring be, well,
MV> default (yes, just like that).
MV> 
MV> Anyway, if you weren't there yet, check seahorse gui for what keyring
MV> are you really using, maybe you've hit the same issue with the "login"
MV> stupidity..

Yes, seahorse shows me two keyrings; however, deleting "login" one does not fix 
the situation: if in the Terminal I try to open tab which ssh's to outer host, 
I immediately got the popup with 

"There was an error creating the child process for this terminal"

nothing in this tab is started, and tab is just hanging.

"login" keyring sometimes got recreated, sometimes not, but the effect above is 
totally reproducible.

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Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-13 Thread Michal Varga
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 3:13 AM, Dmitry Morozovsky  wrote:
> Dear Joe Marcus,
>
> DM> JMC> What versions of gnome-keyring and seahorse do you have?
> DM>
> DM> ma...@revamp:/usr/ports> pkg_info | egrep 'gnome-keyring|seahorse'
> DM> gnome-keyring-2.26.0 A program that keeps passwords and other secrets
> DM> seahorse-2.26.0     GNOME application for managing encryption keys (PGP, 
> SSH)
>
> After
>
> portupgrade -f seahorse gnome-keyring
>
> and reboot
>
> still the same effect...
>
> Of course, I can wipe packages installed and set it up from scratch, but I
> would prefer a bit safer way if at all possible ;-)
>
Well, I have no idea what a "Terminal remote login" in this particular
context is, so this may not be of any help, but I've seen this issue
before:

"Before the upgrade, I had once pop-up asking for my key passphrase, then
let me use this private key during my (home) session without further asking..
Now, when I try to connect to the host which even possibly want to check
whether I want to present some key there, I got the pop-up. I even checked that
I can connect to the host in question using plain xterm, and have usual
password qiery."

I've been in similiar situation some time ago, when new
gnome-keyring/seahorse (it started with one of the recent versions,
don't remember exactly when, but definitely before 2.26 was
introduced) for some surely interesting reason insisted on creating a
very own keyring every other reboot - while originally you were using
one default keyring (let's call it "default") for storing your
passwords, now gnome-keyring kept creating a new one named "login" and
always set it as the default one.

That "login" keyring was even more special in that that nothing stored
in it ever worked, it still kept asking for passwords and even then
was not able to use them (and lost them on the next reboot anyway..
Maybe that's a feature, don't know, don't care). I've run into this on
a few different machines, every time I needed to open 'seahorse', get
to Passwords tab, delete the "login" keyring, set the original
"default" as the default keyring (first time I wiped them all and
created a clean one to be sure, but as it turned out later, this
wasn't needed), after that, passwords worked fine again. This
procedure again and again for a few days/reboots, until seahorse
miraculously stopped this madness and let my default keyring be, well,
default (yes, just like that).

Anyway, if you weren't there yet, check seahorse gui for what keyring
are you really using, maybe you've hit the same issue with the "login"
stupidity..

m.
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Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-13 Thread Joe Marcus Clarke
On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 04:52 +0400, Dmitry Morozovsky wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Apr 2009, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:
> 
> JMC> > JMC> Then I guess I misunderstand the problem.  Are you having a 
> problem with
> JMC> > JMC> seahorse-agent acting as an SSH agent?
> JMC> > 
> JMC> > It seems to be so.
> JMC> > 
> JMC> > Let me explain the situation a bit:
> JMC> > 
> JMC> > My home machine, RELENG_7/i386, with fresh source and fresh ports 
> tree, acts as 
> JMC> > my window to my work servers, some of them recognising my SSH key as 
> trusted.
> JMC> > 
> JMC> > Before the upgrade, I had once pop-up asking for my key passphrase, 
> then 
> JMC> > let me use this private key during my (home) session without further 
> asking.
> JMC> > 
> JMC> > Now, when I try to connect to the host which even possibly want to 
> check 
> JMC> > whether I want to present some key there, I got the pop-up. I even 
> checked that 
> JMC> > I can connect to the host in question using plain xterm, and have 
> usual 
> JMC> > password qiery.
> JMC> 
> JMC> What versions of gnome-keyring and seahorse do you have?
> 
> ma...@revamp:/usr/ports> pkg_info | egrep 'gnome-keyring|seahorse'
> gnome-keyring-2.26.0 A program that keeps passwords and other secrets
> seahorse-2.26.0 GNOME application for managing encryption keys (PGP, SSH)

Go to 2.26.1 on both, and see if the problem persists.

Joe

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Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-13 Thread Dmitry Morozovsky
Dear Joe Marcus,

DM> JMC> What versions of gnome-keyring and seahorse do you have?
DM> 
DM> ma...@revamp:/usr/ports> pkg_info | egrep 'gnome-keyring|seahorse'
DM> gnome-keyring-2.26.0 A program that keeps passwords and other secrets
DM> seahorse-2.26.0 GNOME application for managing encryption keys (PGP, 
SSH)

After 

portupgrade -f seahorse gnome-keyring

and reboot

still the same effect...

Of course, I can wipe packages installed and set it up from scratch, but I 
would prefer a bit safer way if at all possible ;-)


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Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-13 Thread Dmitry Morozovsky
On Mon, 13 Apr 2009, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:

JMC> > JMC> Then I guess I misunderstand the problem.  Are you having a problem 
with
JMC> > JMC> seahorse-agent acting as an SSH agent?
JMC> > 
JMC> > It seems to be so.
JMC> > 
JMC> > Let me explain the situation a bit:
JMC> > 
JMC> > My home machine, RELENG_7/i386, with fresh source and fresh ports tree, 
acts as 
JMC> > my window to my work servers, some of them recognising my SSH key as 
trusted.
JMC> > 
JMC> > Before the upgrade, I had once pop-up asking for my key passphrase, then 
JMC> > let me use this private key during my (home) session without further 
asking.
JMC> > 
JMC> > Now, when I try to connect to the host which even possibly want to check 
JMC> > whether I want to present some key there, I got the pop-up. I even 
checked that 
JMC> > I can connect to the host in question using plain xterm, and have usual 
JMC> > password qiery.
JMC> 
JMC> What versions of gnome-keyring and seahorse do you have?

ma...@revamp:/usr/ports> pkg_info | egrep 'gnome-keyring|seahorse'
gnome-keyring-2.26.0 A program that keeps passwords and other secrets
seahorse-2.26.0 GNOME application for managing encryption keys (PGP, SSH)

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Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-13 Thread Joe Marcus Clarke
On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 04:46 +0400, Dmitry Morozovsky wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Apr 2009, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:
> 
> JMC> > JMC> > remote login using ssh keys with the following message in the 
> logs (sorry, 
> JMC> > JMC> > can't reproduce the message from Terminal popup window)
> JMC> > JMC> > 
> JMC> > JMC> > Apr 12 11:54:37  revamp kernel: Apr 12 11:54:37 
>  
> JMC> > JMC> > revamp gnome-keyring-ask: couldn't allocate secure memory to 
> keep passwords and 
> JMC> > JMC> > or keys from being written to the disk
> JMC> > JMC> > 
> JMC> > JMC> > Any hints to fix this? RELENG_7/i386
> JMC> > JMC> 
> JMC> > JMC> This error is normal, and not fatal.  How do you have PAM 
> configured for
> JMC> > JMC> SSH?
> JMC> > 
> JMC> > 
> JMC> > Hrrm, this is from client side, not from server, how can PAM intervent 
> with 
> JMC> > this?
> JMC> 
> JMC> Then I guess I misunderstand the problem.  Are you having a problem with
> JMC> seahorse-agent acting as an SSH agent?
> 
> It seems to be so.
> 
> Let me explain the situation a bit:
> 
> My home machine, RELENG_7/i386, with fresh source and fresh ports tree, acts 
> as 
> my window to my work servers, some of them recognising my SSH key as trusted.
> 
> Before the upgrade, I had once pop-up asking for my key passphrase, then 
> let me use this private key during my (home) session without further asking.
> 
> Now, when I try to connect to the host which even possibly want to check 
> whether I want to present some key there, I got the pop-up. I even checked 
> that 
> I can connect to the host in question using plain xterm, and have usual 
> password qiery.

What versions of gnome-keyring and seahorse do you have?

Joe

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Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-13 Thread Dmitry Morozovsky
On Mon, 13 Apr 2009, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:

JMC> > JMC> > remote login using ssh keys with the following message in the 
logs (sorry, 
JMC> > JMC> > can't reproduce the message from Terminal popup window)
JMC> > JMC> > 
JMC> > JMC> > Apr 12 11:54:37  revamp kernel: Apr 12 11:54:37 
 
JMC> > JMC> > revamp gnome-keyring-ask: couldn't allocate secure memory to keep 
passwords and 
JMC> > JMC> > or keys from being written to the disk
JMC> > JMC> > 
JMC> > JMC> > Any hints to fix this? RELENG_7/i386
JMC> > JMC> 
JMC> > JMC> This error is normal, and not fatal.  How do you have PAM 
configured for
JMC> > JMC> SSH?
JMC> > 
JMC> > 
JMC> > Hrrm, this is from client side, not from server, how can PAM intervent 
with 
JMC> > this?
JMC> 
JMC> Then I guess I misunderstand the problem.  Are you having a problem with
JMC> seahorse-agent acting as an SSH agent?

It seems to be so.

Let me explain the situation a bit:

My home machine, RELENG_7/i386, with fresh source and fresh ports tree, acts as 
my window to my work servers, some of them recognising my SSH key as trusted.

Before the upgrade, I had once pop-up asking for my key passphrase, then 
let me use this private key during my (home) session without further asking.

Now, when I try to connect to the host which even possibly want to check 
whether I want to present some key there, I got the pop-up. I even checked that 
I can connect to the host in question using plain xterm, and have usual 
password qiery.

Any other hints? Thank you!

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Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-13 Thread Joe Marcus Clarke
On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 04:30 +0400, Dmitry Morozovsky wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Apr 2009, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:
> 
> JMC> > After upgrading via portupgrade -a my home machine I can no longer use 
> Treminal 
> JMC> > remote login using ssh keys with the following message in the logs 
> (sorry, 
> JMC> > can't reproduce the message from Terminal popup window)
> JMC> > 
> JMC> > Apr 12 11:54:37  revamp kernel: Apr 12 11:54:37 
>  
> JMC> > revamp gnome-keyring-ask: couldn't allocate secure memory to keep 
> passwords and 
> JMC> > or keys from being written to the disk
> JMC> > 
> JMC> > Any hints to fix this? RELENG_7/i386
> JMC> 
> JMC> This error is normal, and not fatal.  How do you have PAM configured for
> JMC> SSH?
> 
> 
> Hrrm, this is from client side, not from server, how can PAM intervent with 
> this?

Then I guess I misunderstand the problem.  Are you having a problem with
seahorse-agent acting as an SSH agent?

Joe

> 
> BTW, I have 
> 
> There was an error creating the child process for this terminal
> 
> as a modal dialog box when I tried to open stored Terminal window to the host 
> which requires authorized_keys authentication.
> 
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Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-13 Thread Dmitry Morozovsky
On Mon, 13 Apr 2009, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:

JMC> > After upgrading via portupgrade -a my home machine I can no longer use 
Treminal 
JMC> > remote login using ssh keys with the following message in the logs 
(sorry, 
JMC> > can't reproduce the message from Terminal popup window)
JMC> > 
JMC> > Apr 12 11:54:37  revamp kernel: Apr 12 11:54:37 
 
JMC> > revamp gnome-keyring-ask: couldn't allocate secure memory to keep 
passwords and 
JMC> > or keys from being written to the disk
JMC> > 
JMC> > Any hints to fix this? RELENG_7/i386
JMC> 
JMC> This error is normal, and not fatal.  How do you have PAM configured for
JMC> SSH?


Hrrm, this is from client side, not from server, how can PAM intervent with 
this?

BTW, I have 

There was an error creating the child process for this terminal

as a modal dialog box when I tried to open stored Terminal window to the host 
which requires authorized_keys authentication.

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Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-13 Thread Joe Marcus Clarke
On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 03:47 +0400, Dmitry Morozovsky wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Apr 2009, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:
> 
> JMC> GNOME 2.26 has been merged into the ports tree.  See
> 
> [snip]
> 
> After upgrading via portupgrade -a my home machine I can no longer use 
> Treminal 
> remote login using ssh keys with the following message in the logs (sorry, 
> can't reproduce the message from Terminal popup window)
> 
> Apr 12 11:54:37  revamp kernel: Apr 12 11:54:37  
> revamp gnome-keyring-ask: couldn't allocate secure memory to keep passwords 
> and 
> or keys from being written to the disk
> 
> Any hints to fix this? RELENG_7/i386

This error is normal, and not fatal.  How do you have PAM configured for
SSH?

Joe

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Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-13 Thread Dmitry Morozovsky
On Fri, 10 Apr 2009, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:

JMC> GNOME 2.26 has been merged into the ports tree.  See

[snip]

After upgrading via portupgrade -a my home machine I can no longer use Treminal 
remote login using ssh keys with the following message in the logs (sorry, 
can't reproduce the message from Terminal popup window)

Apr 12 11:54:37  revamp kernel: Apr 12 11:54:37  
revamp gnome-keyring-ask: couldn't allocate secure memory to keep passwords and 
or keys from being written to the disk

Any hints to fix this? RELENG_7/i386

Thanks in advance.

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Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-11 Thread Peter Ulrich Kruppa
Hi,

Am Freitag, den 10.04.2009, 02:12 -0400 schrieb Joe Marcus Clarke:
> GNOME 2.26 has been merged into the ports tree.  See
> http://library.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/2.26/ for a list of what's
> new.  On the FreeBSD front, we introduced a port of libxul 1.9 as an
> alternative for Firefox 2.0 as a Gecko provider.  Almost all of the
> Gecko consumers can make use of this provider by setting:
>   
> WITH_GECKO=libxul
I see galeon-2.0.7 (via gnome2-fifth-toe) offers option "xulrunner" not
"libxul".
With your setting WITH_GECKO=libxul it will use firefox instead.

Greeetings,

Uli.

> Joe
> 
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HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-09 Thread Joe Marcus Clarke
GNOME 2.26 has been merged into the ports tree.  See
http://library.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/2.26/ for a list of what's
new.  On the FreeBSD front, we introduced a port of libxul 1.9 as an
alternative for Firefox 2.0 as a Gecko provider.  Almost all of the
Gecko consumers can make use of this provider by setting:
  
WITH_GECKO=libxul
  
The GNOME 2.26 port was done by ahze, kwm, marcus, and mezz with
contributions by Joseph S. Atkinson, Peter Wemm, Eric L. Chen,
Martin Matuska, Craig Butler, and Pawel Worach.  Additionally, I'd like
to thank pav for the pointyhat run.

As for upgrades, we didn't see too many issues in testing.  Of course,
I'm not sure how many testers we had this go around.  The number seems
to get smaller each release.  Stay tuned to UPDATING in case issues do
arise.

For porters, the includes system was consolidated in GNOME 2.26.  You
may see build failures saying that gnome.h cannot be found, or missing
libgnomeui symbols.  These can typically be fixed by adding the
following to the port's Makefile:

CONFIGURE_ENV=  CPPFLAGs="`pkg-config --cflags libgnomeui-2.0`" \
LIBS="`pkg-config --libs libgnomeui-2.0`"

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