Has NO_MANCOMPRESS been silently depreciated?

2014-02-06 Thread N.J. Mann
Hi,


For many years I have set NO_MANCOMPRESS (and before that NOMANCOMPRESS)
in /etc/make.conf on all my machines.  In the last few weeks I have
noticed that this setting is being ignored by port updates.  Has this
setting been silently depreciated?


Cheers,
   Nick.
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Re: Has NO_MANCOMPRESS been silently depreciated?

2014-02-06 Thread John Marino
On 2/6/2014 13:54, N.J. Mann wrote:
 For many years I have set NO_MANCOMPRESS (and before that NOMANCOMPRESS)
 in /etc/make.conf on all my machines.  In the last few weeks I have
 noticed that this setting is being ignored by port updates.  Has this
 setting been silently depreciated?
 

You have been setting it in make.conf?
I don't believe it was ever a user variable.
Anyway, yes, it doesn't do anything on staged ports and it was silently
removed because it was for port maintainers only, not users.  (subject
to confirmation by the experts).

John
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Re: Has NO_MANCOMPRESS been silently depreciated?

2014-02-06 Thread N.J. Mann
In message 52f388ee.30...@marino.st,
John Marino (freebsd.cont...@marino.st) wrote:
 On 2/6/2014 13:54, N.J. Mann wrote:
  For many years I have set NO_MANCOMPRESS (and before that NOMANCOMPRESS)
  in /etc/make.conf on all my machines.  In the last few weeks I have
  noticed that this setting is being ignored by port updates.  Has this
  setting been silently depreciated?
  
 
 You have been setting it in make.conf?

Yes.

I don't believe it was ever a user variable.

It was and still is for the base system - this machine was updated to
8-STABLE r261161 ten days ago and all base manual pages are
uncompressed.

 Anyway, yes, it doesn't do anything on staged ports and it was silently
 removed because it was for port maintainers only, not users.  (subject

It _is_ a user, well administrator really, setting.  Please unremove it.


Cheers,
   Nick.
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Re: Has NO_MANCOMPRESS been silently depreciated?

2014-02-06 Thread John Marino
On 2/6/2014 14:31, N.J. Mann wrote:
 I don't believe it was ever a user variable.
 It was and still is for the base system - this machine was updated to
 8-STABLE r261161 ten days ago and all base manual pages are
 uncompressed.

okay, that's right.
It's a case where ports honored a base variable and probably should have
created their own version instead.  When all the ports are staged, the
man page variables will be unrecognized.


 Anyway, yes, it doesn't do anything on staged ports and it was silently
 removed because it was for port maintainers only, not users.  (subject
 It _is_ a user, well administrator really, setting.  Please unremove it.

Not my call, but I can pretty much guarantee that won't happen.
Man pages are automatically handled in stage, and all of them are marked
compressed in the internal plist.  You are asking for an infrastructure
change.  We don't even know why it's important (why can't man pages be
compressed?)

John
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Re: Has NO_MANCOMPRESS been silently depreciated?

2014-02-06 Thread N.J. Mann
In message 52f39326.2040...@marino.st,
John Marino (freebsd.cont...@marino.st) wrote:
 On 2/6/2014 14:31, N.J. Mann wrote:
 
 You are asking for an infrastructure
 change.

No I am not.  I _am_ asking that something which used to be supported
(and was documented), that has silently been removed, be reinstated.


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Nick.
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Re: Has NO_MANCOMPRESS been silently depreciated?

2014-02-06 Thread Jim Ohlstein



On 2/6/14, 9:36 AM, N.J. Mann wrote:

In message 52f39326.2040...@marino.st,
John Marino (freebsd.cont...@marino.st) wrote:

On 2/6/2014 14:31, N.J. Mann wrote:

You are asking for an infrastructure
change.


No I am not.  I _am_ asking that something which used to be supported
(and was documented), that has silently been removed, be reinstated.



The two are not mutually exclusive. So actually, yes you _are_.

If you want it back that badly, write the necessary patches and submit them.

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Jim Ohlstein


Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the 
difference. - Mark Twain

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