Re: Kde4 install - no Xorg
On Sat, 2008-11-29 at 02:26 +0100, Alexey Shuvaev wrote: > On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 10:10:28AM +1000, Da Rock wrote: > > Funny thing happened to me on a new install... > > > > [snip] > > > > A day and a half later, the install is finished so I run kdm. Not found > > so I run a find search and then run /usr/local/kde4/bin/kdm. It comes up > > saying it can't find and run the Xserver on display :0. What the?! > > > > So I run a search on pkg_version -v and find xorg is not installed- what > > the?! Maybe I'm missing something here, but I thought installing kde4 > > would install xorg (I'm pretty sure it has before if I remember right- > > it has been a while, but I'm sure I'm not that daft) as it kinda needs > > it to run and ports generally install dependencies. Has someone > > forgotten this in the Makefile? > > > > Not trying to be picky, but I thought it might more sense and offer my > > view :) > > > Well, I would say it is not a bug, it is a feature of X window system. > I think that X libraries are there, it is X server missing. > One can install all X applications on one machine (let's say, server) > and X servers on any number of graphical terminals (yes, X servers are > run on what is normally called a client). After that it is possible to > point clients on the server to the right X server (via DISPLAY environment, > for example). That way the application will be run on server displaying > output and receiving input from the remote X server. (Yes the terminology > is weird :) > > If you don't care about unnecessary components you can > cd /usr/ports/x11/xorg > make intstall clean Yeah I do understand all that, but it did kinda take me by surprise to find that no xserver was installed (or at least an option to install xorg wasn't offered in that cool little config window now available). The libraries were installed, for reference. That feature to point the clients to one machine is cool, and I have used it before between desktops, but how often do sysadmins use it like this on a regular basis as a standalone terminal server? Most regular setups (xwindow anyway) would normally be running on a decentralised basis unless there was a specific need, surely. Just a little warning and/or the option to install xorg might be in order to give people a heads up would be in order I'm sure. Obviously not a high priority, but a reasonable request. ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Kde4 install - no Xorg
On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 10:10:28AM +1000, Da Rock wrote: > Funny thing happened to me on a new install... > > [snip] > > A day and a half later, the install is finished so I run kdm. Not found > so I run a find search and then run /usr/local/kde4/bin/kdm. It comes up > saying it can't find and run the Xserver on display :0. What the?! > > So I run a search on pkg_version -v and find xorg is not installed- what > the?! Maybe I'm missing something here, but I thought installing kde4 > would install xorg (I'm pretty sure it has before if I remember right- > it has been a while, but I'm sure I'm not that daft) as it kinda needs > it to run and ports generally install dependencies. Has someone > forgotten this in the Makefile? > > Not trying to be picky, but I thought it might more sense and offer my > view :) > Well, I would say it is not a bug, it is a feature of X window system. I think that X libraries are there, it is X server missing. One can install all X applications on one machine (let's say, server) and X servers on any number of graphical terminals (yes, X servers are run on what is normally called a client). After that it is possible to point clients on the server to the right X server (via DISPLAY environment, for example). That way the application will be run on server displaying output and receiving input from the remote X server. (Yes the terminology is weird :) If you don't care about unnecessary components you can cd /usr/ports/x11/xorg make intstall clean Hope, this explains something, Alexey. ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Kde4 install - no Xorg
Funny thing happened to me on a new install... I installed 7.0 on a notebook because I wanted to (FINALLY!) see kde4 and I found out it was in ports. Plus I'm looking at just leaving FreeBSD on this system seeing as I can't get my TV card to work even on linux anymore. So I installed, ran portsnap fetch extract, cd /usr/ports/x11/kde4, and make install clean. A day and a half later, the install is finished so I run kdm. Not found so I run a find search and then run /usr/local/kde4/bin/kdm. It comes up saying it can't find and run the Xserver on display :0. What the?! So I run a search on pkg_version -v and find xorg is not installed- what the?! Maybe I'm missing something here, but I thought installing kde4 would install xorg (I'm pretty sure it has before if I remember right- it has been a while, but I'm sure I'm not that daft) as it kinda needs it to run and ports generally install dependencies. Has someone forgotten this in the Makefile? Not trying to be picky, but I thought it might more sense and offer my view :) ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
