Re: Making WebRTC available for FreeBSD
> https://plus.google.com/110946378055202199166/posts/8iTsSCatk4x > > The process has been started : > http://forums.freebsd.org/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=44691 > > Dependencies needed- referenced in "howto" and webrtc dependencies: > libbrlapi from brltty. > > > Benefits: Native client and sever side of WebRTC applications for > FreeBSD and possibly other BSDs. > Eliminated dependency for Linuixlator based applications thus cutting > down on hardware resource use. > Eliminated need for other simulated and emulated programs to run > Skype or other voice-and-video binaries. I.e. Wine, VirtualBox, qemu, > et cetera, et al. > > Since it is known that Sony's PS4 uses FreeBSD as the basis for its > OS, WebRTC could be implemented as a native application on the > platform/console thus allowing users to communicater in real time > while gaming. > Sony surely has a voice and video chat system in mind, one that is not inter-operable with anything that doesn't bear the PlayStation brand. > > Why am I proposing this? > 1. Adrian Chadd asked on Google+ and nowhere else. I decided to bring > his proposal to the public and attempt an initial starting phase. > 2. Users would not be limited to having only a few selected operating > systems at their disposal. Developers could easily communicate with > each other. Limit only exists for closed networks. Don't use Skype, don't need Linuxulator. > 3. Real time sharing/viewing of conventions. This would give the > community another window into the development of FreeBSD. > 4. Companies such as IxSystems and Sony would be able to contact > develoers while simultaneously working on a FreeBSD/FreeBSD_based > system. Both are easily accomplished with SIP, which is an existing widely- deployed standard. Nearly all relevant platforms have at least a few SIP clients, with voice and video support, to choose from. Some clients also support encryption to secure your communications. There are quite a few available in FreeBSD ports. > 5. FreeBSD developers would be able to give feedback on the > development of WebRTC sources. > I can't speak for all, but my feedback for WebRTC is expressed by trying as hard as possible to ignore it while blissfully using SIP for my non-textual communication needs. It is a simple matter of the web guys intentionally ignoring the existence of all else so they could have another great "solution" to a problem that doesn't exist within the domain of "document viewer". The web browser is not a good place to do so, but if they want to take on chat in the browser, they could have simply adopted the SIP protocol, and maybe also SIMPLE protocol for text chat at the same time. Instead they invent their own, not because they had to but because they chose to. All the large companies developing one of the web browsers with significant market share are receiving significant income from advertising. The more time they get you to spend in the browser, the more ads you might see. The more tasks a browser takes on, appropriate or not, the more time you are likely to spend in the browser, seeing the ads. At best, a native client would only be a distraction that would draw developer attention which could be better spent continuing to improve SIP clients. Worse, a native client could help to legitimize WebRTC as some sort of successor to SIP, another step toward their goal of replacing the what the average users knows as the OS with web browsers in the effort to revert PCs back to serving as dumb terminals for their cloud of mainframes (albeit very fancy and "smart" dumb terminals). > > > Being that I am limited on resources, is it possible that others > could take over what was started? Of course others CAN, but WILL they want to is another matter. YOU CAN right now if it is important to you to pursue this distraction. ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Making WebRTC available for FreeBSD
On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Niklas Enbom wrote: > Hey guys, not sure what this refers to. The G+ post talks about porting the > gtalk plugin to freeBSD. WebRTC is an effort in the opposite direction (no > plugins needed). Afaik there is a Chromium build for freeBSD that should > support WebRTC (unless it's disabled at build). > Niklas WebRTC on FreeBSD YES YES YES!!! =) -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Making WebRTC available for FreeBSD
https://code.google.com/p/chromium/codesearch#search/&q=enable_webrtc&sq=package:chromium&type=cs On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Joe Nosay wrote: > > > > On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Niklas Enbom wrote: > >> Hey guys, not sure what this refers to. The G+ post talks about porting >> the gtalk plugin to freeBSD. WebRTC is an effort in the opposite direction >> (no plugins needed). Afaik there is a Chromium build for freeBSD that >> should support WebRTC (unless it's disabled at build). >> >> Niklas >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Joe Nosay wrote: >> >>> https://plus.google.com/110946378055202199166/posts/8iTsSCatk4x >>> >>> The process has been started : >>> http://forums.freebsd.org/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=44691 >>> >>> Dependencies needed- referenced in "howto" and webrtc dependencies: >>> libbrlapi from brltty. >>> >>> >>> Benefits: Native client and sever side of WebRTC applications for >>> FreeBSD and possibly other BSDs. >>> Eliminated dependency for Linuixlator based applications thus cutting >>> down on hardware resource use. >>> Eliminated need for other simulated and emulated programs to run Skype >>> or other voice-and-video binaries. I.e. Wine, VirtualBox, qemu, et cetera, >>> et al. >>> >>> Since it is known that Sony's PS4 uses FreeBSD as the basis for its OS, >>> WebRTC could be implemented as a native application on the platform/console >>> thus allowing users to communicater in real time while gaming. >>> >>> >>> Why am I proposing this? >>> 1. Adrian Chadd asked on Google+ and nowhere else. I decided to bring >>> his proposal to the public and attempt an initial starting phase. >>> 2. Users would not be limited to having only a few selected operating >>> systems at their disposal. Developers could easily communicate with each >>> other. >>> 3. Real time sharing/viewing of conventions. This would give the >>> community another window into the development of FreeBSD. >>> 4. Companies such as IxSystems and Sony would be able to contact >>> develoers while simultaneously working on a FreeBSD/FreeBSD_based system. >>> 5. FreeBSD developers would be able to give feedback on the development >>> of WebRTC sources. >>> >>> >>> >>> Being that I am limited on resources, is it possible that others could >>> take over what was started? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > > How is it implemented at build time? > ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Making WebRTC available for FreeBSD
On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Niklas Enbom wrote: > Hey guys, not sure what this refers to. The G+ post talks about porting > the gtalk plugin to freeBSD. WebRTC is an effort in the opposite direction > (no plugins needed). Afaik there is a Chromium build for freeBSD that > should support WebRTC (unless it's disabled at build). > > Niklas > > > On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Joe Nosay wrote: > >> https://plus.google.com/110946378055202199166/posts/8iTsSCatk4x >> >> The process has been started : >> http://forums.freebsd.org/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=44691 >> >> Dependencies needed- referenced in "howto" and webrtc dependencies: >> libbrlapi from brltty. >> >> >> Benefits: Native client and sever side of WebRTC applications for FreeBSD >> and possibly other BSDs. >> Eliminated dependency for Linuixlator based applications thus cutting >> down on hardware resource use. >> Eliminated need for other simulated and emulated programs to run Skype or >> other voice-and-video binaries. I.e. Wine, VirtualBox, qemu, et cetera, et >> al. >> >> Since it is known that Sony's PS4 uses FreeBSD as the basis for its OS, >> WebRTC could be implemented as a native application on the platform/console >> thus allowing users to communicater in real time while gaming. >> >> >> Why am I proposing this? >> 1. Adrian Chadd asked on Google+ and nowhere else. I decided to bring his >> proposal to the public and attempt an initial starting phase. >> 2. Users would not be limited to having only a few selected operating >> systems at their disposal. Developers could easily communicate with each >> other. >> 3. Real time sharing/viewing of conventions. This would give the >> community another window into the development of FreeBSD. >> 4. Companies such as IxSystems and Sony would be able to contact >> develoers while simultaneously working on a FreeBSD/FreeBSD_based system. >> 5. FreeBSD developers would be able to give feedback on the development >> of WebRTC sources. >> >> >> >> Being that I am limited on resources, is it possible that others could >> take over what was started? >> >> >> >> >> > How is it implemented at build time? ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Making WebRTC available for FreeBSD
Hey guys, not sure what this refers to. The G+ post talks about porting the gtalk plugin to freeBSD. WebRTC is an effort in the opposite direction (no plugins needed). Afaik there is a Chromium build for freeBSD that should support WebRTC (unless it's disabled at build). Niklas On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Joe Nosay wrote: > https://plus.google.com/110946378055202199166/posts/8iTsSCatk4x > > The process has been started : > http://forums.freebsd.org/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=44691 > > Dependencies needed- referenced in "howto" and webrtc dependencies: > libbrlapi from brltty. > > > Benefits: Native client and sever side of WebRTC applications for FreeBSD > and possibly other BSDs. > Eliminated dependency for Linuixlator based applications thus cutting down > on hardware resource use. > Eliminated need for other simulated and emulated programs to run Skype or > other voice-and-video binaries. I.e. Wine, VirtualBox, qemu, et cetera, et > al. > > Since it is known that Sony's PS4 uses FreeBSD as the basis for its OS, > WebRTC could be implemented as a native application on the platform/console > thus allowing users to communicater in real time while gaming. > > > Why am I proposing this? > 1. Adrian Chadd asked on Google+ and nowhere else. I decided to bring his > proposal to the public and attempt an initial starting phase. > 2. Users would not be limited to having only a few selected operating > systems at their disposal. Developers could easily communicate with each > other. > 3. Real time sharing/viewing of conventions. This would give the community > another window into the development of FreeBSD. > 4. Companies such as IxSystems and Sony would be able to contact develoers > while simultaneously working on a FreeBSD/FreeBSD_based system. > 5. FreeBSD developers would be able to give feedback on the development of > WebRTC sources. > > > > Being that I am limited on resources, is it possible that others could > take over what was started? > > > > > ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Making WebRTC available for FreeBSD
https://plus.google.com/110946378055202199166/posts/8iTsSCatk4x The process has been started : http://forums.freebsd.org/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=44691 Dependencies needed- referenced in "howto" and webrtc dependencies: libbrlapi from brltty. Benefits: Native client and sever side of WebRTC applications for FreeBSD and possibly other BSDs. Eliminated dependency for Linuixlator based applications thus cutting down on hardware resource use. Eliminated need for other simulated and emulated programs to run Skype or other voice-and-video binaries. I.e. Wine, VirtualBox, qemu, et cetera, et al. Since it is known that Sony's PS4 uses FreeBSD as the basis for its OS, WebRTC could be implemented as a native application on the platform/console thus allowing users to communicater in real time while gaming. Why am I proposing this? 1. Adrian Chadd asked on Google+ and nowhere else. I decided to bring his proposal to the public and attempt an initial starting phase. 2. Users would not be limited to having only a few selected operating systems at their disposal. Developers could easily communicate with each other. 3. Real time sharing/viewing of conventions. This would give the community another window into the development of FreeBSD. 4. Companies such as IxSystems and Sony would be able to contact develoers while simultaneously working on a FreeBSD/FreeBSD_based system. 5. FreeBSD developers would be able to give feedback on the development of WebRTC sources. Being that I am limited on resources, is it possible that others could take over what was started? ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"