Re: Preparing an Oracle Database XE port/package -- any tips ?

2008-03-08 Thread Adrian Penisoara
Hi,

On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 12:16 AM, Marcin Cieslak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Adrian Penisoara wrote:
  2). Usually everything comes down to business cases and business
  opportunities. So I think we will need to demonstrate a large userbase
 in
  order to get attention. I think we should be happy if an Oracle XE
 FreeBSD
  package will make it onto the downloads page in the first place.

 I can give you one business case:

 During election observation mission in 2007 an Oracle XE installation
 I've had (just for test) on my FreeBSD notebook saved my (election) day
 and allowed me to analyze and verify election results - and this is a
 Big Thing(tm).


Well, this sort of stories really ought to be told and heard around. Have
you considered writing a short story or even a news article on this topic (I
guess there are good places where you could submit it) ?




  3) Oracle EE / SE editions are indeed the big guns on the enterprise
  database market, but until there are some more steps. And Oracle does
 not
  use a packaging format for these, OUI (Oracle Universal Installer) is
 the
  designated tool to use.

 OUI is difficult to run, it's usually easier to setup a database without
 it. Fortunately XE does not need one at all. There are scripts out there
 that perform database creation end-to-end and I think they should be
 included in the port.


Right. I will be extracting the RPM specs file to form the package
installation script.
I'm not sure whether the debian scripts have something better.

Regards,
Adrian Penisoara
ROFUG / EnterpriseBSD
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Re: Preparing an Oracle Database XE port/package -- any tips ?

2008-03-08 Thread Marcin Cieslak
Adrian Penisoara wrote:
 Hi,

(dropping -isp)

 During election observation mission in 2007 an Oracle XE installation
 I've had (just for test) on my FreeBSD notebook saved my (election) day
 and allowed me to analyze and verify election results - and this is a
 Big Thing(tm).
 
 
 Well, this sort of stories really ought to be told and heard around. Have
 you considered writing a short story or even a news article on this topic (I
 guess there are good places where you could submit it) ?

This is not always easy. You need to observe state secrets of a host
country plus some special requirements in a highly political
environment. I will try my best anyway.

 Right. I will be extracting the RPM specs file to form the package
 installation script.
 I'm not sure whether the debian scripts have something better.

Go for install.sh on the
http://wiki.bsdportal.ru/doc:oraclexe_on_freebsd instead. Worked for me
like a charm. (The kernel patches mentioned in the article are already
incorporated).

--Marcin

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Re: Preparing an Oracle Database XE port/package -- any tips ?

2008-03-07 Thread Rink Springer
Hi,

On Fri, Mar 07, 2008 at 04:36:56PM +0200, Adrian Penisoara wrote:
   After having to deploy an Oracle Database XE [1] installation (with Linux
 32bit binaries from the official RPM package) on a production FreeBSD
 6.2machine I realized it would be very much feasible to produce a
 FreeBSD
 port/package for it.
   I would like to know whether similar efforts have been undergoing and
 whether people came up with some tips  tricks on this.

We run Oracle XE on two FreeBSD 6.3 machines at work - we've just
manually set it up, but are very interested in a port of it. We did
the same as you basically - just uncompress it and move the files in
place.

Regards,

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 mean you win. - Fox Mulder
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Re: Preparing an Oracle Database XE port/package -- any tips ?

2008-03-07 Thread Alexander Leidinger
Quoting Adrian Penisoara [EMAIL PROTECTED] (from Fri, 7 Mar 2008  
16:36:56 +0200):



Hi,

  After having to deploy an Oracle Database XE [1] installation (with Linux
32bit binaries from the official RPM package) on a production FreeBSD
6.2machine I realized it would be very much feasible to produce a
FreeBSD
port/package for it.
  I would like to know whether similar efforts have been undergoing and
whether people came up with some tips  tricks on this.

 The goal is not only to add the port into FreeBSD's ports tree but also to
eventually convince Oracle (I work for them) to post the package on their
official download page.


I'm not aware of something like this. Feel free to ask questions  
regarding the linuxulator and our linux infrastructure in the ports on  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Also feel free to ask for review of the port on [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Bye,
Alexander.

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Re: Preparing an Oracle Database XE port/package -- any tips ?

2008-03-07 Thread Ivan Voras
Rink Springer wrote:
 Hi,
 
 On Fri, Mar 07, 2008 at 04:36:56PM +0200, Adrian Penisoara wrote:
   After having to deploy an Oracle Database XE [1] installation (with Linux
 32bit binaries from the official RPM package) on a production FreeBSD
 6.2machine I realized it would be very much feasible to produce a
 FreeBSD
 port/package for it.
   I would like to know whether similar efforts have been undergoing and
 whether people came up with some tips  tricks on this.
 
 We run Oracle XE on two FreeBSD 6.3 machines at work - we've just
 manually set it up, but are very interested in a port of it. We did
 the same as you basically - just uncompress it and move the files in
 place.

Could any of you write a short HOWTO article, either for the official
articles section or for the wiki (or both...)?



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Re: Preparing an Oracle Database XE port/package -- any tips ?

2008-03-07 Thread Adrian Penisoara
Hi,

On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 5:17 PM, Ivan Voras [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Rink Springer wrote:
  Hi,
 
  On Fri, Mar 07, 2008 at 04:36:56PM +0200, Adrian Penisoara wrote:
After having to deploy an Oracle Database XE [1] installation (with
 Linux
  32bit binaries from the official RPM package) on a production FreeBSD
  6.2machine I realized it would be very much feasible to produce a
  FreeBSD
  port/package for it.
I would like to know whether similar efforts have been undergoing and
  whether people came up with some tips  tricks on this.
 
  We run Oracle XE on two FreeBSD 6.3 machines at work - we've just
  manually set it up, but are very interested in a port of it. We did
  the same as you basically - just uncompress it and move the files in
  place.

 Could any of you write a short HOWTO article, either for the official
 articles section or for the wiki (or both...)?


Let's not forget about the Oracle 8i installation section in the FreeBSD
Handbook [1] which could surely benefit from updating (8i is desupported
since a ling time). I would be glad to help (re)writing such stuff, as time
permits.

[1]
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/linuxemu-oracle.html

Regards,
Adrian Penisoara
ROFUG / EnterpriseBSD
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Re: Preparing an Oracle Database XE port/package -- any tips ?

2008-03-07 Thread Jonathan Adams
I am defnitely interested in helping in this area if needed.  A couple
of years ago, I struggled mightily trying to get Oracle running on 5.1

On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 9:39 AM, Rink Springer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,


  On Fri, Mar 07, 2008 at 04:36:56PM +0200, Adrian Penisoara wrote:
 After having to deploy an Oracle Database XE [1] installation (with Linux
   32bit binaries from the official RPM package) on a production FreeBSD
   6.2machine I realized it would be very much feasible to produce a
   FreeBSD
   port/package for it.
 I would like to know whether similar efforts have been undergoing and
   whether people came up with some tips  tricks on this.

  We run Oracle XE on two FreeBSD 6.3 machines at work - we've just
  manually set it up, but are very interested in a port of it. We did
  the same as you basically - just uncompress it and move the files in
  place.

  Regards,

  --
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  Anyway boys, this is America. Just because you get more votes doesn't
   mean you win. - Fox Mulder


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Re: Preparing an Oracle Database XE port/package -- any tips ?

2008-03-07 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Fri, 07 Mar 2008 16:14:15 +0100
Alexander Leidinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Quoting Adrian Penisoara [EMAIL PROTECTED] (from Fri, 7 Mar 2008  
 16:36:56 +0200):
 
  Hi,
 
After having to deploy an Oracle Database XE [1] installation
  (with Linux 32bit binaries from the official RPM package) on a
  production FreeBSD 6.2machine I realized it would be very much
  feasible to produce a FreeBSD
  port/package for it.
I would like to know whether similar efforts have been undergoing
  and whether people came up with some tips  tricks on this.
 
   The goal is not only to add the port into FreeBSD's ports tree but
  also to eventually convince Oracle (I work for them) to post the
  package on their official download page.
 
 I'm not aware of something like this. Feel free to ask questions  
 regarding the linuxulator and our linux infrastructure in the ports
 on [EMAIL PROTECTED] Also feel free to ask for review of the port on
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I've worked on such a port (probably that's what ady is referring to)
but kinda' lost my interest in it ($REALLIFE got in the way).

I'll try to find it (it was about 80% done) but I'm not sure it
survived the clean-up sessions of my tmp/work dir (I don't know why I
didn't ci it in our cvs ...).

I'll work with Ady if he need help.

Ady, BTW, after we have the port and, with some test cases provided by
people that run it, can we hope for any kind of (semi-)official
support ?


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Re: Preparing an Oracle Database XE port/package -- any tips ?

2008-03-07 Thread Adrian Penisoara
Hi,

On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 6:44 PM, Ion-Mihai Tetcu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, 07 Mar 2008 16:14:15 +0100
 Alexander Leidinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Quoting Adrian Penisoara [EMAIL PROTECTED] (from Fri, 7 Mar 2008
  16:36:56 +0200):
 
   Hi,
  
 After having to deploy an Oracle Database XE [1] installation
   (with Linux 32bit binaries from the official RPM package) on a
   production FreeBSD 6.2machine I realized it would be very much
   feasible to produce a FreeBSD
   port/package for it.
 I would like to know whether similar efforts have been undergoing
   and whether people came up with some tips  tricks on this.
  
The goal is not only to add the port into FreeBSD's ports tree but
   also to eventually convince Oracle (I work for them) to post the
   package on their official download page.
 
  I'm not aware of something like this. Feel free to ask questions
  regarding the linuxulator and our linux infrastructure in the ports
  on [EMAIL PROTECTED] Also feel free to ask for review of the port on
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I've worked on such a port (probably that's what ady is referring to)
 but kinda' lost my interest in it ($REALLIFE got in the way).

 I'll try to find it (it was about 80% done) but I'm not sure it
 survived the clean-up sessions of my tmp/work dir (I don't know why I
 didn't ci it in our cvs ...).

 I'll work with Ady if he need help.

 Ady, BTW, after we have the port and, with some test cases provided by
 people that run it, can we hope for any kind of (semi-)official
 support ?


Not so fast (TM) :-).

1). I am talking about the Oracle XE package for which Oracle does not offer
any commercial support (except for Forum discussions).

2). Usually everything comes down to business cases and business
opportunities. So I think we will need to demonstrate a large userbase in
order to get attention. I think we should be happy if an Oracle XE FreeBSD
package will make it onto the downloads page in the first place.

3) Oracle EE / SE editions are indeed the big guns on the enterprise
database market, but until there are some more steps. And Oracle does not
use a packaging format for these, OUI (Oracle Universal Installer) is the
designated tool to use.

Note: The above represent solely my personal opinions, I do not speak on
behalf of my employer (Oracle).

Regards,
Adrian Penisoara
ROFUG / EnterpriseBSD.
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Re: Preparing an Oracle Database XE port/package -- any tips ?

2008-03-07 Thread Ivan Voras
On 07/03/2008, Adrian Penisoara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Let's not forget about the Oracle 8i installation section in the FreeBSD
 Handbook [1] which could surely benefit from updating (8i is desupported
 since a ling time). I would be glad to help (re)writing such stuff, as time
 permits.

 [1]
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/linuxemu-oracle.html

I cannot contribute since I don't use Oracle (I'm interested because
running Oracle is a sort-of rite of passage - people look at an OS
differently if it can run Oracle :) ), but I can do a part of the
logistics - I can put the resulting text in the official wiki, find
someone to convert it and add to the handbook, etc.
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Re: Preparing an Oracle Database XE port/package -- any tips ?

2008-03-07 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Fri, 7 Mar 2008 21:22:02 +0200
Adrian Penisoara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 [ .. ]

  Ady, BTW, after we have the port and, with some test cases provided
  by people that run it, can we hope for any kind of (semi-)official
  support ?
   
 
 Not so fast (TM) :-).
 
 1). I am talking about the Oracle XE package for which Oracle does
 not offer any commercial support (except for Forum discussions).
 
 2). Usually everything comes down to business cases and business
 opportunities. So I think we will need to demonstrate a large
 userbase in order to get attention. I think we should be happy if an
 Oracle XE FreeBSD package will make it onto the downloads page in the
 first place.

Yep, this is what I was thinking about for the beginning at least.

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