Re: Ports via svn, make fetchindex and make compatibility with NetBSD
> > So could I run "make fetchindex" from NetBSD even if I don't attempt to > > actually build ports from NetBSD? > > I would have to point the MAKECONF to FreeBSD's /etc/make.conf rather than > > use NetBSD's /etc/mk.conf which is specific to NetBSD. > > Or is it safe to skip "make fetchindex" entirely? > It is safe :) > regards, > Bapt Now I can feel more comfortable, I trust your insider knowledge. I still would have to make fetchlist from FreeBSD, then fetch from NetBSD, then boot back to FreeBSD to compile/build. Sort of cloak-and-dagger. Better would be if I could get Hiro H50191 USB wireless adapter to work with driver rsu, could even try ndis as fallback and to see if that works. I haven't yet tried with my new TP-Link wireless router that replaced a failing Netgear router. Tom ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Ports via svn, make fetchindex and make compatibility with NetBSD
On Tue, 03 Dec 2013 13:27:57 + Matthew Seaman wrote: > If you do need a copy of the index, then you have two choices > >* build your own. 'make index' will thrash your machine for > upwards of twenty minutes, That's pessimistic, on my low-end i5 with low-performance disks, it takes between 2.25 and 3.5 minutes (depending on how many files are already cached) with no noticeable impact on performance. ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Ports via svn, make fetchindex and make compatibility with NetBSD
On Tue, Dec 03, 2013 at 04:41:17AM -0800, Thomas Mueller wrote: > Is it necessary to make fetchindex after downloading or updating the ports > tree using svn? > > I have new installations of head and 10-stable where I so far can't connect > to the Internet, though I can from Linux and NetBSD-current amd64. > > So I use subversion, built on NetBSD from pkgsrc, to checkout and update > ports tree as well as system source tree. > > But I believe I can't run "make fetchindex" without Internet connection. > > Now I read that FreeBSD make has switched to bmake in the 10-stable and head > branches. > > So could I run "make fetchindex" from NetBSD even if I don't attempt to > actually build ports from NetBSD? > > I would have to point the MAKECONF to FreeBSD's /etc/make.conf rather than > use NetBSD's /etc/mk.conf which is specific to NetBSD. > > Or is it safe to skip "make fetchindex" entirely? It is safe :) regards, Bapt pgpCNLtcUvqFA.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Ports via svn, make fetchindex and make compatibility with NetBSD
> Building ports on NetBSD is a whole other kettle of fish. It's not > going to work without a lot of effort to add compatibility changes. > (Getting the ports working on DFly which is much more closely related to > FBSD has been a fairly recent achievement, and that took quite a lot of > local patches.) > Cheers, > Matthew I noticed on the DFly site that Dfly was switching from NetBSD pkgsrc to dports, which is a port of FreeBSD ports. I guess they like FreeBSD ports better than NetBSD pkgsrc. NetBSD pkgsrc has been ported to many other OSes including some non-Unixoid, but I don't really want to use pkgsrc for Linux. DFly is rather incompatible with my system; I tried their live USB including the latest release 3.6.0 amd64 and i386. So is OpenBSD. Tom ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Ports via svn, make fetchindex and make compatibility with NetBSD
On 12/03/13 12:41, Thomas Mueller wrote: > Is it necessary to make fetchindex after downloading or updating the ports > tree using svn? > > I have new installations of head and 10-stable where I so far can't connect > to the Internet, though I can from Linux and NetBSD-current amd64. > > So I use subversion, built on NetBSD from pkgsrc, to checkout and update > ports tree as well as system source tree. > > But I believe I can't run "make fetchindex" without Internet connection. > > Now I read that FreeBSD make has switched to bmake in the 10-stable and head > branches. > > So could I run "make fetchindex" from NetBSD even if I don't attempt to > actually build ports from NetBSD? > > I would have to point the MAKECONF to FreeBSD's /etc/make.conf rather than > use NetBSD's /etc/mk.conf which is specific to NetBSD. > > Or is it safe to skip "make fetchindex" entirely? For most purposes you don't really need a copy of the INDEX. Some software -- including portmaster(8), portupgrade(8) -- uses the INDEX for various purposes, but even then I'm not sure if the presence of the INDEX is mandatory for those. If you do need a copy of the index, then you have two choices * build your own. 'make index' will thrash your machine for upwards of twenty minutes, but doesn't require any sort of network access. (There's also ports-mgmt/p5-FreeBSD-Portindex, but I'm biased because I wrote it...) * Pull down the index from ne of the FreeBSD mirror sites. 'make fetchindex' is just a wrapper around the command: fetch -o INDEX-10.bz2 http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/INDEX-10.bz2 (or INDEX-11.bz2 for HEAD). You can use fetch(1), wget(1), curl(1) or many other applications capable of pulling down a file from a webserver. Any Unixoid OS will have the capability to do this. Building ports on NetBSD is a whole other kettle of fish. It's not going to work without a lot of effort to add compatibility changes. (Getting the ports working on DFly which is much more closely related to FBSD has been a fairly recent achievement, and that took quite a lot of local patches.) Cheers, Matthew signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Ports via svn, make fetchindex and make compatibility with NetBSD
On Tue, 3 Dec 2013 04:41:17 -0800 (PST) Thomas Mueller wrote: > Is it necessary to make fetchindex after downloading or updating the > ports tree using svn? Not absolutely, it's needed for portupgrade, port searches, and a number of utilities use it for speeding various things up. > I have new installations of head and 10-stable where I so far can't > connect to the Internet, though I can from Linux and NetBSD-current > amd64. > > So I use subversion, built on NetBSD from pkgsrc, to checkout and > update ports tree as well as system source tree. > > But I believe I can't run "make fetchindex" without Internet > connection. > You can run "make index" instead, it takes about 3 minutes on my desktop. ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
