Re: linux-flashplugin9 Restricted?

2008-06-02 Thread Derek Graham
on Monday 02 June 2008Monday 02 June 2008 Sam Fourman Jr. "Sam Fourman Jr." 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > AFAIK Flash9 relies on the Linux 2.6 kernel, and so wont run on
> > FreeBSDs default of 2.4. I've not tried it, but I think people have said
> > it can be made to run with 2.6 emulation.
>
> If someone reading this has time,motivation, and the know how could they
> please look into getting flash 9 on FreeBSD 7 Stable to work.
> I have not tried it, but I have heard that liniux 2.6 emulation does not
> magically make flash9 work.
>
> I am just a FreeBSD user, and as of yet I do not have the know how to look
> into this.
>
> Flash 9 is badly needed for desktop users. for what it is worth, I can not
> even browse a major bank's website in FreeBSD
> https://www.citicards.com/cards/wv/home.do
>
>
> Thank you
> Sam Fourman Jr.
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I agree, flash 9 is important and increasingly becoming a tool needed for 
everyday internet life. I am not a coder, I have coded a lil here and there 
long time ago but this is a project for someone with the know how to do it 
right :)

Derek
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Re: linux-flashplugin9 Restricted?

2008-06-02 Thread Sam Fourman Jr.
> AFAIK Flash9 relies on the Linux 2.6 kernel, and so wont run on
> FreeBSDs default of 2.4. I've not tried it, but I think people have said
> it can be made to run with 2.6 emulation.
>

If someone reading this has time,motivation, and the know how could they
please look into getting flash 9 on FreeBSD 7 Stable to work.
I have not tried it, but I have heard that liniux 2.6 emulation does not
magically make flash9 work.

I am just a FreeBSD user, and as of yet I do not have the know how to look
into this.

Flash 9 is badly needed for desktop users. for what it is worth, I can not
even browse a major bank's website in FreeBSD
https://www.citicards.com/cards/wv/home.do


Thank you
Sam Fourman Jr.
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Re: linux-flashplugin9 Restricted?

2008-06-02 Thread Kitche
> On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 18:27:07 -0500
> Derek Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> on Monday 02 June 2008Monday 02 June 2008 RW RW
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> > On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 16:09:58 -0500
>> > Derek Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> > > I found this odd, I remember seeing an email from adobe someone
>> > > posted that said that they do not support freebsd but they do not
>> > > forbid users to use flash if they can get it working.
>> >
>> > Note that this entry is dated 2006. The flash ports were temporarily
>> > removed and then reinstated shortly after. This is not an issue, as
>> > far as I know.
> "
>> Then why do they still show up as Restricted in portfresh and ports?
>
> At lot of proprietary software is marked as RESTRICTED, in this case
> the reason is simply "Redistribution not allowed".
>
> At the time the port  was removed it was against the license to run
> the binary on any OS that wasn't officially supported.
>
>
>> 7 is almost useless anyway since most sites use 9 now, and 9 is not
>> even worth the time, flash almost is a waste of time installing :p
>
> AFAIK Flash9 relies on the Linux 2.6 kernel, and so wont run on
> FreeBSDs default of 2.4. I've not tried it, but I think people have said
> it can be made to run with 2.6 emulation.
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Flash9 does not run with 2.6 emulation it crashes but does run for like a
second.

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Re: linux-flashplugin9 Restricted?

2008-06-02 Thread RW
On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 18:27:07 -0500
Derek Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> on Monday 02 June 2008Monday 02 June 2008 RW RW
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 16:09:58 -0500
> > Derek Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > > I found this odd, I remember seeing an email from adobe someone
> > > posted that said that they do not support freebsd but they do not
> > > forbid users to use flash if they can get it working.
> >
> > Note that this entry is dated 2006. The flash ports were temporarily
> > removed and then reinstated shortly after. This is not an issue, as
> > far as I know.
"
> Then why do they still show up as Restricted in portfresh and ports?

At lot of proprietary software is marked as RESTRICTED, in this case
the reason is simply "Redistribution not allowed".

At the time the port  was removed it was against the license to run
the binary on any OS that wasn't officially supported. 


> 7 is almost useless anyway since most sites use 9 now, and 9 is not
> even worth the time, flash almost is a waste of time installing :p

AFAIK Flash9 relies on the Linux 2.6 kernel, and so wont run on
FreeBSDs default of 2.4. I've not tried it, but I think people have said
it can be made to run with 2.6 emulation.
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Re: linux-flashplugin9 Restricted?

2008-06-02 Thread Yasuhiro KIMURA
From: Derek Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux-flashplugin9 Restricted?
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 18:27:07 -0500

> Then why do they still show up as Restricted in portfresh and ports?

Because flashplugin is commercial software and it is not allowed by
EULA to create FreeBSD package and redestribute it.

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Yasuhiro KIMURA
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Re: linux-flashplugin9 Restricted?

2008-06-02 Thread Derek Graham
on Monday 02 June 2008Monday 02 June 2008 RW RW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

> On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 16:09:58 -0500
>
> Derek Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > from freshports.org:
> > >> 2006-04-08
> > >> Affects: users of www/linux-flashplugin*
> > >> Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >> Reason:
> > >> These ports have been removed because the End User License
> > >> Agreement explicitly forbids to run the Flash Player on FreeBSD.
> > >> For more details, see
> > >> http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/license/desktop/.
> >
> > I found this odd, I remember seeing an email from adobe someone
> > posted that said that they do not support freebsd but they do not
> > forbid users to use flash if they can get it working.
>
> Note that this entry is dated 2006. The flash ports were temporarily
> removed and then reinstated shortly after. This is not an issue, as far
> as I know.
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Then why do they still show up as Restricted in portfresh and ports?
7 is almost useless anyway since most sites use 9 now, and 9 is not even worth 
the time, flash almost is a waste of time installing :p


Sincerely,
Derek A. Graham

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Re: linux-flashplugin9 Restricted?

2008-06-02 Thread RW
On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 16:09:58 -0500
Derek Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> from freshports.org:
> >> 2006-04-08
> >> Affects: users of www/linux-flashplugin*
> >> Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Reason: 
> >> These ports have been removed because the End User License
> >> Agreement explicitly forbids to run the Flash Player on FreeBSD.
> >> For more details, see
> >> http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/license/desktop/.
> I found this odd, I remember seeing an email from adobe someone
> posted that said that they do not support freebsd but they do not
> forbid users to use flash if they can get it working.  

Note that this entry is dated 2006. The flash ports were temporarily
removed and then reinstated shortly after. This is not an issue, as far
as I know.
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Re: linux-flashplugin9 Restricted?

2008-06-02 Thread Naram Qashat

Derek Graham wrote:

from freshports.org:

2006-04-08
Affects: users of www/linux-flashplugin*
Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reason: 
These ports have been removed because the End User License Agreement

explicitly forbids to run the Flash Player on FreeBSD.
For more details, see
http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/license/desktop/.
I found this odd, I remember seeing an email from adobe someone posted that 
said that they do not support freebsd but they do not forbid users to use 
flash if they can get it working.  I personally think this is insane we need 
a good alternative to flash9, more sites are using flash9 and flash7 is 
becoming useless. Is there a alternative in ports that supports flash ver 9?


It's not a perfect solution, but I've been using Wine to run the Windows version 
of Firefox along with the Windows version of the Flash 9 plugin.  I 
unfortunately had no luck getting the Linux Flash 9 plugin to run with a native 
Firefox and nspluginwrapper, it would freeze nspluginwrapper.


Naram Qashat


Thanks,
Derek
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Re: linux-flashplugin9 Restricted?

2008-06-02 Thread Rene Ladan
Derek Graham schreef:
> from freshports.org:
>>> 2006-04-08
>>> Affects: users of www/linux-flashplugin*
>>> Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Reason: 
>>> These ports have been removed because the End User License Agreement
>>> explicitly forbids to run the Flash Player on FreeBSD.
>>> For more details, see
>>> http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/license/desktop/.
> I found this odd, I remember seeing an email from adobe someone posted that 
> said that they do not support freebsd but they do not forbid users to use 
> flash if they can get it working.  I personally think this is insane we need 
> a good alternative to flash9, more sites are using flash9 and flash7 is 
> becoming useless. Is there a alternative in ports that supports flash ver 9?

I'm using swfdec-plugin at the moment, because the Linux flashplugin doesn't 
really
work with native Firefox.  I've also tried gnash (version 0.7.1), but that 
crashed
too often, causing X to crash too.  swfdec-plugin works reasonably here.

HTH,
Rene
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