Re: pkg 1.3.X changed behaviour with pkg -fR xxx
On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Kevin Oberman wrote: > On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 3:29 PM, Jos Backus wrote: > > My impression was that pkg is supposed to be cross-platform and portable, > > hence not FreeBSD-specific. > > Jos > > I have seen nothing indicating that. It's certainly not going to work with > any Linux distro. It might be applicable to other BSDs, especially > DragonFly, but I still believe that FreeBSD bugs belong in the FreeBSD bug > system. Normally, when maintainers want to dent reports upstream to the > port developers, it is up to them to do so. So the ports management team > would be responsible for forwarding bugs to the github system if they think > it is appropriate. > > pkg is the default package manager on DragonflyBSD now. Their dports setup switched over to it officially a release or two ago. I believe they're even using poudriere to build their packages. However, I agree that pkg bugs on FreeBSD should be added to the FreeBSD bug tracker. At the very least, a FreeBSD PR needs to be entered with the bug number from the pkg bug tracker. There needs to be a FreeBSD-specific papertrail for bugs on FreeBSD. -- Freddie Cash fjwc...@gmail.com ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: pkg 1.3.X changed behaviour with pkg -fR xxx
On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 3:29 PM, Jos Backus wrote: > On Jul 30, 2014 12:03 PM, "Kevin Oberman" wrote: > > > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 1:16 AM, Michael Gmelin > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On 30 Jul 2014, at 08:58, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 10:47 PM, Baptiste Daroussin < > b...@freebsd.org> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >>> On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 08:45:32PM -0300, sergio lenzi wrote: > > > >>> see the sequence of commands > > > >>> > > > >>> pkg info -qr db6 > > > >>> results > > > >>>redland-1.0.17_3 > > > >>>serf-1.3.6_1 > > > >>>subversion-1.8.9_7 > > > >>>apr-1.5.1.1.5.3_3 > > > >>>squidGuard-1.4_9 > > > >>>cyrus-sasl-saslauthd-2.1.26_1 > > > >>>evolution-data-server-2.32.1_11 > > > >>>bogofilter-1.2.4_2 > > > >>> = > > > >>> Now the command > > > >>> > > > >>> pkg install -fR db6 > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> Updating repository catalogue > > > >>> DIST64 repository is up-to-date > > > >>> All repositories are up-to-date > > > >>> Checking integrity... done (0 conflicting) > > > >>> The following 1 packages will be affected (of 1037 checked): > > > >>> > > > >>> Installed packages to be REINSTALLED: > > > >>> db6-6.1.19 (forced reinstall) > > > >>> === > > > >>> look that it will reinstall db6 (which is correct) > > > >>> but not will reinstall the other packages as the manual says so... > > > >>> > > > >>> Another missing thing is that pkg upgrade > > > >>> will not reinstall the packages that changed options or > > > >>> that changed direct dependencies (as pkg 1.2.X did)... > > > >>> > > > >>> Is it normal or a bug?? > > > >> This is a bug can you open a ticket on github? > > > >> > > > >> regards, > > > >> Bapt > > > > > > > > Wouldn't the FreeBSD bugzilla be a better place? > > > > > > Pkg is developed using git and hosted on GitHub. Its issue tracker > hooks > > > into the repository quite nicely, so it actually makes a lot of sense > to > > > file it there. > > > > > > https://github.com/freebsd/pkg/issues/new > > > > > > > While I understand that, it is disturbing to see a very important part of > > FreeBSD not using the FreeBSD bug tracking system. If I have a problem > with > > FreeBSD and want to see if there is a trouble report, I am not going to > > look at github (or any external tracker). I'm going to look at the > FreeBSD > > Bugzilla and I feel it is improper to have an official FreeBSD project > > recommending issues be sent to any external bug tracker in lieu of the > > official one.. > > > > Simply put, I think it is a terrible idea and should be squashed > > immediately. > > My impression was that pkg is supposed to be cross-platform and portable, > hence not FreeBSD-specific. > Jos > I have seen nothing indicating that. It's certainly not going to work with any Linux distro. It might be applicable to other BSDs, especially DragonFly, but I still believe that FreeBSD bugs belong in the FreeBSD bug system. Normally, when maintainers want to dent reports upstream to the port developers, it is up to them to do so. So the ports management team would be responsible for forwarding bugs to the github system if they think it is appropriate. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer, Retired E-mail: rkober...@gmail.com ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: pkg 1.3.X changed behaviour with pkg -fR xxx
On Jul 30, 2014 12:03 PM, "Kevin Oberman" wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 1:16 AM, Michael Gmelin wrote: > > > > > > > > On 30 Jul 2014, at 08:58, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 10:47 PM, Baptiste Daroussin > > > wrote: > > > > > >>> On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 08:45:32PM -0300, sergio lenzi wrote: > > >>> see the sequence of commands > > >>> > > >>> pkg info -qr db6 > > >>> results > > >>>redland-1.0.17_3 > > >>>serf-1.3.6_1 > > >>>subversion-1.8.9_7 > > >>>apr-1.5.1.1.5.3_3 > > >>>squidGuard-1.4_9 > > >>>cyrus-sasl-saslauthd-2.1.26_1 > > >>>evolution-data-server-2.32.1_11 > > >>>bogofilter-1.2.4_2 > > >>> = > > >>> Now the command > > >>> > > >>> pkg install -fR db6 > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Updating repository catalogue > > >>> DIST64 repository is up-to-date > > >>> All repositories are up-to-date > > >>> Checking integrity... done (0 conflicting) > > >>> The following 1 packages will be affected (of 1037 checked): > > >>> > > >>> Installed packages to be REINSTALLED: > > >>> db6-6.1.19 (forced reinstall) > > >>> === > > >>> look that it will reinstall db6 (which is correct) > > >>> but not will reinstall the other packages as the manual says so... > > >>> > > >>> Another missing thing is that pkg upgrade > > >>> will not reinstall the packages that changed options or > > >>> that changed direct dependencies (as pkg 1.2.X did)... > > >>> > > >>> Is it normal or a bug?? > > >> This is a bug can you open a ticket on github? > > >> > > >> regards, > > >> Bapt > > > > > > Wouldn't the FreeBSD bugzilla be a better place? > > > > Pkg is developed using git and hosted on GitHub. Its issue tracker hooks > > into the repository quite nicely, so it actually makes a lot of sense to > > file it there. > > > > https://github.com/freebsd/pkg/issues/new > > > > While I understand that, it is disturbing to see a very important part of > FreeBSD not using the FreeBSD bug tracking system. If I have a problem with > FreeBSD and want to see if there is a trouble report, I am not going to > look at github (or any external tracker). I'm going to look at the FreeBSD > Bugzilla and I feel it is improper to have an official FreeBSD project > recommending issues be sent to any external bug tracker in lieu of the > official one.. > > Simply put, I think it is a terrible idea and should be squashed > immediately. My impression was that pkg is supposed to be cross-platform and portable, hence not FreeBSD-specific. Jos > -- > R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer, Retired > E-mail: rkober...@gmail.com > ___ > freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: pkg 1.3.X changed behaviour with pkg -fR xxx
On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 1:16 AM, Michael Gmelin wrote: > > > > On 30 Jul 2014, at 08:58, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 10:47 PM, Baptiste Daroussin > > wrote: > > > >>> On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 08:45:32PM -0300, sergio lenzi wrote: > >>> see the sequence of commands > >>> > >>> pkg info -qr db6 > >>> results > >>>redland-1.0.17_3 > >>>serf-1.3.6_1 > >>>subversion-1.8.9_7 > >>>apr-1.5.1.1.5.3_3 > >>>squidGuard-1.4_9 > >>>cyrus-sasl-saslauthd-2.1.26_1 > >>>evolution-data-server-2.32.1_11 > >>>bogofilter-1.2.4_2 > >>> = > >>> Now the command > >>> > >>> pkg install -fR db6 > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Updating repository catalogue > >>> DIST64 repository is up-to-date > >>> All repositories are up-to-date > >>> Checking integrity... done (0 conflicting) > >>> The following 1 packages will be affected (of 1037 checked): > >>> > >>> Installed packages to be REINSTALLED: > >>> db6-6.1.19 (forced reinstall) > >>> === > >>> look that it will reinstall db6 (which is correct) > >>> but not will reinstall the other packages as the manual says so... > >>> > >>> Another missing thing is that pkg upgrade > >>> will not reinstall the packages that changed options or > >>> that changed direct dependencies (as pkg 1.2.X did)... > >>> > >>> Is it normal or a bug?? > >> This is a bug can you open a ticket on github? > >> > >> regards, > >> Bapt > > > > Wouldn't the FreeBSD bugzilla be a better place? > > Pkg is developed using git and hosted on GitHub. Its issue tracker hooks > into the repository quite nicely, so it actually makes a lot of sense to > file it there. > > https://github.com/freebsd/pkg/issues/new > While I understand that, it is disturbing to see a very important part of FreeBSD not using the FreeBSD bug tracking system. If I have a problem with FreeBSD and want to see if there is a trouble report, I am not going to look at github (or any external tracker). I'm going to look at the FreeBSD Bugzilla and I feel it is improper to have an official FreeBSD project recommending issues be sent to any external bug tracker in lieu of the official one.. Simply put, I think it is a terrible idea and should be squashed immediately. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer, Retired E-mail: rkober...@gmail.com ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: pkg 1.3.X changed behaviour with pkg -fR xxx
> On 30 Jul 2014, at 08:58, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 10:47 PM, Baptiste Daroussin > wrote: > >>> On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 08:45:32PM -0300, sergio lenzi wrote: >>> see the sequence of commands >>> >>> pkg info -qr db6 >>> results >>>redland-1.0.17_3 >>>serf-1.3.6_1 >>>subversion-1.8.9_7 >>>apr-1.5.1.1.5.3_3 >>>squidGuard-1.4_9 >>>cyrus-sasl-saslauthd-2.1.26_1 >>>evolution-data-server-2.32.1_11 >>>bogofilter-1.2.4_2 >>> = >>> Now the command >>> >>> pkg install -fR db6 >>> >>> >>> >>> Updating repository catalogue >>> DIST64 repository is up-to-date >>> All repositories are up-to-date >>> Checking integrity... done (0 conflicting) >>> The following 1 packages will be affected (of 1037 checked): >>> >>> Installed packages to be REINSTALLED: >>> db6-6.1.19 (forced reinstall) >>> === >>> look that it will reinstall db6 (which is correct) >>> but not will reinstall the other packages as the manual says so... >>> >>> Another missing thing is that pkg upgrade >>> will not reinstall the packages that changed options or >>> that changed direct dependencies (as pkg 1.2.X did)... >>> >>> Is it normal or a bug?? >> This is a bug can you open a ticket on github? >> >> regards, >> Bapt > > Wouldn't the FreeBSD bugzilla be a better place? Pkg is developed using git and hosted on GitHub. Its issue tracker hooks into the repository quite nicely, so it actually makes a lot of sense to file it there. https://github.com/freebsd/pkg/issues/new > -- > R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer, Retired > E-mail: rkober...@gmail.com > ___ > freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: pkg 1.3.X changed behaviour with pkg -fR xxx
On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 10:47 PM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 08:45:32PM -0300, sergio lenzi wrote: > > see the sequence of commands > > > > pkg info -qr db6 > > results > > redland-1.0.17_3 > > serf-1.3.6_1 > > subversion-1.8.9_7 > > apr-1.5.1.1.5.3_3 > > squidGuard-1.4_9 > > cyrus-sasl-saslauthd-2.1.26_1 > > evolution-data-server-2.32.1_11 > > bogofilter-1.2.4_2 > > = > > Now the command > > > > pkg install -fR db6 > > > > > > > > Updating repository catalogue > > DIST64 repository is up-to-date > > All repositories are up-to-date > > Checking integrity... done (0 conflicting) > > The following 1 packages will be affected (of 1037 checked): > > > > Installed packages to be REINSTALLED: > > db6-6.1.19 (forced reinstall) > > === > > look that it will reinstall db6 (which is correct) > > but not will reinstall the other packages as the manual says so... > > > > Another missing thing is that pkg upgrade > > will not reinstall the packages that changed options or > > that changed direct dependencies (as pkg 1.2.X did)... > > > > Is it normal or a bug?? > > > This is a bug can you open a ticket on github? > > regards, > Bapt > Wouldn't the FreeBSD bugzilla be a better place? -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer, Retired E-mail: rkober...@gmail.com ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: pkg 1.3.X changed behaviour with pkg -fR xxx
On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 08:45:32PM -0300, sergio lenzi wrote: > see the sequence of commands > > pkg info -qr db6 > results > redland-1.0.17_3 > serf-1.3.6_1 > subversion-1.8.9_7 > apr-1.5.1.1.5.3_3 > squidGuard-1.4_9 > cyrus-sasl-saslauthd-2.1.26_1 > evolution-data-server-2.32.1_11 > bogofilter-1.2.4_2 > = > Now the command > > pkg install -fR db6 > > > > Updating repository catalogue > DIST64 repository is up-to-date > All repositories are up-to-date > Checking integrity... done (0 conflicting) > The following 1 packages will be affected (of 1037 checked): > > Installed packages to be REINSTALLED: > db6-6.1.19 (forced reinstall) > === > look that it will reinstall db6 (which is correct) > but not will reinstall the other packages as the manual says so... > > Another missing thing is that pkg upgrade > will not reinstall the packages that changed options or > that changed direct dependencies (as pkg 1.2.X did)... > > Is it normal or a bug?? > This is a bug can you open a ticket on github? regards, Bapt pgpGVWkIX2tOJ.pgp Description: PGP signature
