Re: port maintainership of alpine?
Hi! My favorite mailer alpine has no port maintainer at the moment. Ports that have no maintainer and/or staging are at risk of being deleted from the portstree, and alpine is a port that I would definitely miss. So I was thinking of becoming a port maintainer. Although I'm using FreeBSD for 15 years now, I have no programming experience at all. Do you have experience building software ? What is your background ? So my first question is if it is possible for someone like me to become a maintainer for a port like alpine, or should I learn programming in C first? Learning 'make' would probably more important to maintain the port. Given that the latest alpine release was around 2008, it looks like this software is not maintained even upstream! For this, you will definitly need C skills. Given the deadline for non-staged ports, it looks like a tight race. -- p...@opsec.eu+49 171 3101372 6 years to go ! ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: port maintainership of alpine?
On Sat, 24 May 2014, the wise Kurt Jaeger wrote: My favorite mailer alpine has no port maintainer at the moment. Ports that have no maintainer and/or staging are at risk of being deleted from the portstree, and alpine is a port that I would definitely miss. So I was thinking of becoming a port maintainer. Although I'm using FreeBSD for 15 years now, I have no programming experience at all. Do you have experience building software ? What is your background ? Other than building ports, no. I don't have an IT background, but a finance and legal background so that's not helping me here :-). So my first question is if it is possible for someone like me to become a maintainer for a port like alpine, or should I learn programming in C first? Learning 'make' would probably more important to maintain the port. Given that the latest alpine release was around 2008, it looks like this software is not maintained even upstream! For this, you will definitly need C skills. The version in ports is old but alpine is still being developed and currently at version 2.11. Given the deadline for non-staged ports, it looks like a tight race. I know so that is why I'm interested. -- Have no friends not equal to yourself. -- Confucius ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: port maintainership of alpine?
Hi! [maintaining mail/alpine] So I was thinking of becoming a port maintainer. Although I'm using FreeBSD for 15 years now, I have no programming experience at all. Do you have experience building software ? What is your background ? Other than building ports, no. I don't have an IT background, but a finance and legal background so that's not helping me here :-). The finance-background should help you getting the details 8-) How many ports did you already build yourself ? On which fbsd versions ? Did you sometimes fix ports to get them to build ? So my first question is if it is possible for someone like me to become a maintainer for a port like alpine, or should I learn programming in C first? Learning 'make' would probably more important to maintain the port. Given that the latest alpine release was around 2008, it looks like this software is not maintained even upstream! For this, you will definitly need C skills. The version in ports is old but alpine is still being developed and currently at version 2.11. Ah! Thanks for the pointer. Then you only need to get the 'make' stuff. How much 'make' did you take up on the side ? Given the deadline for non-staged ports, it looks like a tight race. I know so that is why I'm interested. I guess (very rough guess, I know) you need between 40 to 80 hours (!) to dig deep enough to get it done. You need to learn make. -- p...@opsec.eu+49 171 3101372 6 years to go ! ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: port maintainership of alpine?
Marco Beishuizen wrote: On Sat, 24 May 2014, the wise Kurt Jaeger wrote: The version in ports is old but alpine is still being developed and currently at version 2.11. UW says the latest version is 2.00 .. Ubuntu released 2.02 a while back, Wikipedia says 2.11 .. but it also says UW has the latest - which says 2.00 .. feel free to point me at where 2.11 is and I'll take a shot at wrangling it... Given the deadline for non-staged ports, it looks like a tight race. I know so that is why I'm interested. Michelle -- Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/ ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: port maintainership of alpine?
Hi! The version in ports is old but alpine is still being developed and currently at version 2.11. UW says the latest version is 2.00 .. Ubuntu released 2.02 a while back, Wikipedia says 2.11 .. but it also says UW has the latest - which says 2.00 .. feel free to point me at where 2.11 is and I'll take a shot at wrangling it... http://patches.freeiz.com/alpine/release/ has a link. -- p...@opsec.eu+49 171 3101372 6 years to go ! ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: port maintainership of alpine?
Kurt Jaeger wrote: Hi! The version in ports is old but alpine is still being developed and currently at version 2.11. UW says the latest version is 2.00 .. Ubuntu released 2.02 a while back, Wikipedia says 2.11 .. but it also says UW has the latest - which says 2.00 .. feel free to point me at where 2.11 is and I'll take a shot at wrangling it... http://patches.freeiz.com/alpine/release/ has a link. Gonna be a long night .. site keeps going up and down .. don't have the source yet .. :/ Michelle -- Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/ ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: port maintainership of alpine?
On Sat, 24 May 2014, the wise Kurt Jaeger wrote: How many ports did you already build yourself ? On which fbsd versions ? Did you sometimes fix ports to get them to build ? Using FreeBSD since 4.0 (I think) as my main OS, and always used ports, so it must be hundreds? Problems I fixed myself after some googling or with help from the mailinglists. Ah! Thanks for the pointer. Then you only need to get the 'make' stuff. How much 'make' did you take up on the side ? I guess (very rough guess, I know) you need between 40 to 80 hours (!) to dig deep enough to get it done. You need to learn make. Hmm I think it would be best then to look into make first. -- Love thy neighbor as thyself, but choose your neighborhood. -- Louise Beal ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: port maintainership of alpine?
Hi! http://patches.freeiz.com/alpine/release/ has a link. https://www.mpeters.org/mirror/alpine-2.11.tar.xz Gonna be a long night .. site keeps going up and down .. don't have the source yet .. :/ I've put it on http://people.freebsd.org/~pi/misc/alpine-2.11.tar.xz -- p...@opsec.eu+49 171 3101372 6 years to go ! ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: port maintainership of alpine?
Hi! I guess (very rough guess, I know) you need between 40 to 80 hours (!) to dig deep enough to get it done. You need to learn make. Hmm I think it would be best then to look into make first. If Michelle is doing the port, she will be much faster, from what I can see 8-) But if you want to start digging into this in general, I can only encourage you to learn this. -- p...@opsec.eu+49 171 3101372 6 years to go ! ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: port maintainership of alpine?
On Sat, 24 May 2014, the wise Kurt Jaeger wrote: I guess (very rough guess, I know) you need between 40 to 80 hours (!) to dig deep enough to get it done. You need to learn make. Hmm I think it would be best then to look into make first. If Michelle is doing the port, she will be much faster, from what I can see 8-) Yeah, she probably will :) But if you want to start digging into this in general, I can only encourage you to learn this. I'll definitely do this. Looking at the manpage of make as we speak. Thanks for the help, Regards, Marco -- I have a map of the United States. It's actual size. I spent last summer folding it. People ask me where I live, and I say, E6. -- Steven Wright ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: port maintainership of alpine?
Hi all, since I'm a daily user.. On Sat, 24 May 2014, Kurt Jaeger wrote: I've put it on http://people.freebsd.org/~pi/misc/alpine-2.11.tar.xz Feel free to drop me a line too for help or time constraints. Just know I'll be evading the ncurses stuff ;-) -- Melvyn ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: port maintainership of alpine?
Marco Beishuizen wrote: On Sat, 24 May 2014, the wise Kurt Jaeger wrote: I guess (very rough guess, I know) you need between 40 to 80 hours (!) to dig deep enough to get it done. You need to learn make. Hmm I think it would be best then to look into make first. If Michelle is doing the port, she will be much faster, from what I can see 8-) Yeah, she probably will :) Talking behind my back now? :P Ok, initial patch done (not staged atm) however I just realised I cannot test it... it will only work on 10.x (by default).. will need to add the dependancy of ports/security/openssl for anything prior.. and I can't test that (all my build servers are required to use openssl 0.9.x atm :/ ) I'll see what I can do about bringing up a new VM, for 10.x (and/or 9.x + security/openssl) but that's not going to happen tonight... sorry... But if you want to start digging into this in general, I can only encourage you to learn this. I'll definitely do this. Looking at the manpage of make as we speak. manpage? .. hmm.. make manpage may or may not help without knowledge of C and what the makefile is actually doing you're not going to get any useful info there... (sorry - but this port requires patches - which I have converted the original to newer/individual format (separate in files/*) and that's not easy unless you know what you are doing in C.) I'll continue along as far as I can and if it's only testing on a compatible version of the OS, I'll send a patch for you to try (though if it doesn't patch immediately you will have issues.) Regards, -- Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/ ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
