Re: port unmaintained since 2005? drop it? misc/gpt*

[Michael Scheidell]

On 6/10/12 4:10 PM, Michael Scheidell wrote:
Two unmaintained ports, nothing depends on them, and upstream has not 
updated source since 2004, ftp server unresponsive.



(gpt32: misc/gpt also unmaintained since 2005.


ftp server mentioned doesn't respond (ftp.freebsd.org has distfile),
upstream unmaintained since 2004, and upstream points to a different 
distfile (with different checksum and same version number), mentions 
an alpha version 4.0.


nothing depends on this (it is to install 'globus'), which I don't see 
in ports.



and, in fact:

grep globus /usr/ports/MOVED
net/globus4||2008-12-07|Has expired: Has been broken for more than 6 months


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Re: port unmaintained since 2005? drop it? misc/gpt*

[perryh]

Michael Scheidell  wrote:

> Two unmaintained ports, nothing depends on them, and upstream has
> not updated source since 2004, ftp server unresponsive.
>
> 
> (gpt32: misc/gpt also unmaintained since 2005.
>
> 
> ftp server mentioned doesn't respond (ftp.freebsd.org has distfile),
> upstream unmaintained since 2004, and upstream points to a different 
> distfile (with different checksum and same version number), mentions
> an alpha version 4.0.

These are originally from NCSA, but the website mentioned in
the pkg-descr (http://www.gridpackagingtools.org/) now seems to
be promoting some kind of diet/nutritional approach.  The only
connection to "middleware" that immediately comes to mind is that
such sites tend to be frequented by those concerned about excessive
weight around their middle :)

Dunno what (if anything) they are currently good for, but it seems
that, at a minimum, the PORTVERSION and/or MASTER_SITES -- and the
pkg-descr -- need to be updated.
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Re: port unmaintained since 2005? drop it? misc/gpt*

[Robert Simmons]

On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 4:31 AM,   wrote:
> Michael Scheidell  wrote:
>
>> Two unmaintained ports, nothing depends on them, and upstream has
>> not updated source since 2004, ftp server unresponsive.
>>
>> 
>> (gpt32: misc/gpt also unmaintained since 2005.
>>
>> 
>> ftp server mentioned doesn't respond (ftp.freebsd.org has distfile),
>> upstream unmaintained since 2004, and upstream points to a different
>> distfile (with different checksum and same version number), mentions
>> an alpha version 4.0.
>
> These are originally from NCSA, but the website mentioned in
> the pkg-descr (http://www.gridpackagingtools.org/) now seems to
> be promoting some kind of diet/nutritional approach.  The only
> connection to "middleware" that immediately comes to mind is that
> such sites tend to be frequented by those concerned about excessive
> weight around their middle :)
>
> Dunno what (if anything) they are currently good for, but it seems
> that, at a minimum, the PORTVERSION and/or MASTER_SITES -- and the
> pkg-descr -- need to be updated.

I would have to think that that is a remnant of a project that is no
longer running.  The current owners of that domain are squatters:

Registrant ID:DOT-SY49XY2F9J0P
Registrant Name:Domain Admin
Registrant Organization:Maripon Management, Inc.
Registrant Street1:Office 2, 456-458 Strand
Registrant Street2:WC2R 0DZ
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:London
Registrant State/Province:uk
Registrant Postal Code:n/a
Registrant Country:GB
Registrant Phone:+44.12053169373
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:
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Re: port unmaintained since 2005? drop it? misc/gpt*

[b. f.]

> On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 4:31 AM,   wrote:
> > Michael Scheidell  wrote:
> >
> >> Two unmaintained ports, nothing depends on them, and upstream has
> >> not updated source since 2004, ftp server unresponsive.
> >>
> >> 
> >> (gpt32: misc/gpt also unmaintained since 2005.
> >>
> >> 
> >> ftp server mentioned doesn't respond (ftp.freebsd.org has distfile),
> >> upstream unmaintained since 2004, and upstream points to a different
> >> distfile (with different checksum and same version number), mentions
> >> an alpha version 4.0.
> >
> > These are originally from NCSA, but the website mentioned in
> > the pkg-descr (http://www.gridpackagingtools.org/) now seems to
> > be promoting some kind of diet/nutritional approach.  The only
> > connection to "middleware" that immediately comes to mind is that
> > such sites tend to be frequented by those concerned about excessive
> > weight around their middle :)
> >
> > Dunno what (if anything) they are currently good for, but it seems
> > that, at a minimum, the PORTVERSION and/or MASTER_SITES -- and the
> > pkg-descr -- need to be updated.
>
> I would have to think that that is a remnant of a project that is no
> longer running.  The current owners of that domain are squatters:

The distribution files are at:

ftp://ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu/aces/gpt/releases

and the homepage is:

http://grid.ncsa.illinois.edu/gpt/

(And Globus is at:

http://www.globus.org/toolkit/   )

Time to determine this: < 1 min.

b.
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Re: port unmaintained since 2005? drop it? misc/gpt*

[Michael Scheidell]

On 6/10/12 11:14 PM, b. f. wrote:

The distribution files are at:

ftp://ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu/aces/gpt/releases

and the homepage is:

http://grid.ncsa.illinois.edu/gpt/

(And Globus is at:

http://www.globus.org/toolkit/)

Time to determine this:<  1 min.

b.

glad to know you are volunteering to maintain these ports.
I will resurrect globus from the archives (where it has been since 2008, 
see /usr/ports/MOVED),

which email address do you want in the MAINTAINER= line?

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Re: port unmaintained since 2005? drop it? misc/gpt*

[Michael Scheidell]

On 6/11/12 4:31 AM, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:

Dunno what (if anything) they are currently good for, but it seems
that, at a minimum, the PORTVERSION and/or MASTER_SITES -- and the
pkg-descr -- need to be updated.

They still don't build.
And, they still aren't need by anything in ports tree (again, globus was 
deleted from ports tree in 2008)


anyone want to maintain them?  I'll tag your name on the ports for you.

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Re: port unmaintained since 2005? drop it? misc/gpt*

[b. f.]

On 6/11/12, Michael Scheidell  wrote:
>
>
> On 6/10/12 11:14 PM, b. f. wrote:
>> The distribution files are at:
>>
>> ftp://ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu/aces/gpt/releases
>>
>> and the homepage is:
>>
>> http://grid.ncsa.illinois.edu/gpt/
>>
>> (And Globus is at:
>>
>> http://www.globus.org/toolkit/)
>>
>> Time to determine this:<  1 min.
>>
>> b.
> glad to know you are volunteering to maintain these ports.
> I will resurrect globus from the archives (where it has been since 2008,
> see /usr/ports/MOVED),
> which email address do you want in the MAINTAINER= line?
>

Heh, not so fast.  I've got other things to do first.  I was just
pointing out that it is not so hard to correct some of the stale
information, and it is useful to do this as a pointer to those who may
wish to more actively maintain the port later, even if it is moved to
the attic in a few months.

I should add that globus comes with a bundled version of gpt, and I
think the Debian port is based upon this -- it's at 3.6.x.  Also, that
brooks@, who was involved in adding this port and other related
software, could probably tell you more about grid software.

b.
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Re: port unmaintained since 2005? drop it? misc/gpt*

[Robert Simmons]

On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 2:33 AM, b. f.  wrote:
> On 6/11/12, Michael Scheidell  wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 6/10/12 11:14 PM, b. f. wrote:
>>> The distribution files are at:
>>>
>>> ftp://ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu/aces/gpt/releases
>>>
>>> and the homepage is:
>>>
>>> http://grid.ncsa.illinois.edu/gpt/
>>>
>>> (And Globus is at:
>>>
>>> http://www.globus.org/toolkit/    )
>>>
>>> Time to determine this:<  1 min.
>>>
>>> b.
>> glad to know you are volunteering to maintain these ports.
>> I will resurrect globus from the archives (where it has been since 2008,
>> see /usr/ports/MOVED),
>> which email address do you want in the MAINTAINER= line?
>>
>
> Heh, not so fast.  I've got other things to do first.  I was just
> pointing out that it is not so hard to correct some of the stale
> information, and it is useful to do this as a pointer to those who may
> wish to more actively maintain the port later, even if it is moved to
> the attic in a few months.
>
> I should add that globus comes with a bundled version of gpt, and I
> think the Debian port is based upon this -- it's at 3.6.x.  Also, that
> brooks@, who was involved in adding this port and other related
> software, could probably tell you more about grid software.

Well, there may be some users coming out of the woodwork for this
port.  I noticed the following vulnerability alert today:
CVE-2012-3292
http://web.nvd.nist.gov/view/vuln/detail?vulnId=CVE-2012-3292
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Re: port unmaintained since 2005? drop it? misc/gpt*

[Brooks Davis]

On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 01:45:40AM -0400, Michael Scheidell wrote:
> 
> 
> On 6/11/12 4:31 AM, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
> > Dunno what (if anything) they are currently good for, but it seems
> > that, at a minimum, the PORTVERSION and/or MASTER_SITES -- and the
> > pkg-descr -- need to be updated.
> They still don't build.
> And, they still aren't need by anything in ports tree (again, globus was 
> deleted from ports tree in 2008)
> 
> anyone want to maintain them?  I'll tag your name on the ports for you.

As the person who originally ported and committed them, I say they should
be taken out and shot.  They were unmaintainable from the start without
a significant number of users to drive the upstream to stop making bad
decisions.

-- Brooks


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