Re: security/hydra and www/hydra
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 09:35:30AM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: > > On 21/07/2010 23:05, Mark Linimon wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 10:21:11PM +0200, Kurt Jaeger wrote: > >>> And is this ok to have two ports with the same name. > >> > >> No, it's bad and should be avoided. I'm pretty sure some > >> portupgrade tool will break. > > > > No, they actually handle it ok. It _is_ confusing to the users, however > > (and, if you go through a raw list of package binaries, You Just Have To > > Know which one's which.) > > Doesn't this cause problems for the CVS MODULES stuff? I thought that > was one of the biggest reasons for why port names should be unique. > It does, but it's easy enough to work around by fabricating a unique name where there would be a conflict (e.g. www_hydra, security_hydra). -- Shaun Amott // PGP: 0x6B387A9A "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds." - Ralph Waldo Emerson ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: security/hydra and www/hydra
On 21/07/2010 23:05, Mark Linimon wrote: > On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 10:21:11PM +0200, Kurt Jaeger wrote: >>> And is this ok to have two ports with the same name. >> >> No, it's bad and should be avoided. I'm pretty sure some >> portupgrade tool will break. > > No, they actually handle it ok. It _is_ confusing to the users, however > (and, if you go through a raw list of package binaries, You Just Have To > Know which one's which.) Doesn't this cause problems for the CVS MODULES stuff? I thought that was one of the biggest reasons for why port names should be unique. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matt...@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: security/hydra and www/hydra
Mark Linimon writes: > On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 02:18:36AM +0400, Anonymous wrote: >> Ah, it uses NO_LATEST_LINK. So the answer is `none'. Sorry. > > Yeah, but I had to look it up myself. > > Do you know of any other examples that are missing either CONFLICTS or > NO_LATEST_LINK? > I'm not sure what you mean by `either ... or' here but I don't think you can substitute CONFLICTS with NO_LATEST_LINK. As for missing CONFLICTS there are too many to check, I've stopped after finding following net/ttt, games/ttt - both install bin/ttt but only games/ttt has CONFLICTS chinese/vflib, japanese/vflib - have similar PLIST and no CONFLICTS lang/gawk, japanese/gawk - bin/gawk, no CONFLICTS math/surf, www/surf - bin/surf, no CONFLICTS ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: security/hydra and www/hydra
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 02:18:36AM +0400, Anonymous wrote: > Ah, it uses NO_LATEST_LINK. So the answer is `none'. Sorry. Yeah, but I had to look it up myself. Do you know of any other examples that are missing either CONFLICTS or NO_LATEST_LINK? mcl ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: security/hydra and www/hydra
Anonymous writes: > Mark Linimon writes: > >> On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 10:21:11PM +0200, Kurt Jaeger wrote: >>> > And is this ok to have two ports with the same name. >>> >>> No, it's bad and should be avoided. I'm pretty sure some >>> portupgrade tool will break. >> >> No, they actually handle it ok. It _is_ confusing to the users, however >> (and, if you go through a raw list of package binaries, You Just Have To >> Know which one's which.) > > So, which package the following command will install? > > $ pkg_add -r hydra Ah, it uses NO_LATEST_LINK. So the answer is `none'. Sorry. ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: security/hydra and www/hydra
Mark Linimon writes: > On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 10:21:11PM +0200, Kurt Jaeger wrote: >> > And is this ok to have two ports with the same name. >> >> No, it's bad and should be avoided. I'm pretty sure some >> portupgrade tool will break. > > No, they actually handle it ok. It _is_ confusing to the users, however > (and, if you go through a raw list of package binaries, You Just Have To > Know which one's which.) So, which package the following command will install? $ pkg_add -r hydra ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: security/hydra and www/hydra
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 10:21:11PM +0200, Kurt Jaeger wrote: > > And is this ok to have two ports with the same name. > > No, it's bad and should be avoided. I'm pretty sure some > portupgrade tool will break. No, they actually handle it ok. It _is_ confusing to the users, however (and, if you go through a raw list of package binaries, You Just Have To Know which one's which.) mcl ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: security/hydra and www/hydra
> 21.07.2010 20:47, Ashish SHUKLA ??: > > In case of multiple ports installing files with same name at same path, then > > one of them needs to alter the file names by using suffix or prefix, like > > GNU > > projects do when they collide with BSD equivalents by using 'g' as prefix. > > I don't think that prefixing gnu tools is good example. > For example we have native make in /usr/bin and gmake > in /usr/local/bin.And native make is in base system, and > gmake is a port. > > So why CONFLICTS needed then for? It's needed here because both ports install into the same file. But you are absolutly right, two ports with the same name (hydra) are also bad. One of the should be changed, e.g. to hydra-webserver. > And is this ok to have two ports with the same name. No, it's bad and should be avoided. I'm pretty sure some portupgrade tool will break. -- p...@opsec.eu+49 171 310137210 years to go ! ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: security/hydra and www/hydra
Ruslan Mahmatkhanov writes: > 21.07.2010 20:47, Ashish SHUKLA пишет: >> In case of multiple ports installing files with same name at same path, then >> one of them needs to alter the file names by using suffix or prefix, like GNU >> projects do when they collide with BSD equivalents by using 'g' as prefix. > I don't think that prefixing gnu tools is good example. > For example we have native make in /usr/bin and gmake > in /usr/local/bin.And native make is in base system, and > gmake is a port. > So why CONFLICTS needed then for? IMHO, CONFLICTS are suited for ports which represent same project or forks or with different options which install files at same places thus can't be installed side-by-side. e.g. irc/bitlbee and irc/bitlbee-otr, editors/emacs* ports etc., thats purely my observation. > And is this ok to have two ports with the same name. I've > searched Porters Handbook for this, but found nothing (i think > it pretty obvious to mention it in docs). > What if want to remove one of then, or update. Which one > will be removed/updated? Well, I don't think its good to have two ports with same name, esp. when they result in same PKGNAME. To distinguish between similar named ports add a prefix or suffix to them. > Please don't get me wrong, just curious. No problems. % echo 'pkill cat' >curiosity -- Ashish SHUKLA | GPG: F682 CDCC 39DC 0FEA E116 20B6 C746 CFA9 E74F A4B0 freebsd.org!ashish | http://people.freebsd.org/~ashish/ “Keep your BitTorrent clients running and make the world a better place to live in.” (Sir Debarshi Ray, ".signature", 2010) pgpMGVS4wJuFT.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: security/hydra and www/hydra
21.07.2010 20:47, Ashish SHUKLA пишет: In case of multiple ports installing files with same name at same path, then one of them needs to alter the file names by using suffix or prefix, like GNU projects do when they collide with BSD equivalents by using 'g' as prefix. I don't think that prefixing gnu tools is good example. For example we have native make in /usr/bin and gmake in /usr/local/bin.And native make is in base system, and gmake is a port. So why CONFLICTS needed then for? And is this ok to have two ports with the same name. I've searched Porters Handbook for this, but found nothing (i think it pretty obvious to mention it in docs). What if want to remove one of then, or update. Which one will be removed/updated? Please don't get me wrong, just curious. -- Regards, Ruslan ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: security/hydra and www/hydra
cvs-src writes:
>Good day!
>We now have two ports with name 'hydra' in the tree, one in security
>category, and one in www.
>Both installs file ${PREFIX}/bin/hydra.
>I firstly think about asking for add CONFLICTS line, but then come up
>to ports tree should not have
>two ports with same name.
>What you think about this?
In case of multiple ports installing files with same name at same path, then
one of them needs to alter the file names by using suffix or prefix, like GNU
projects do when they collide with BSD equivalents by using 'g' as prefix.
HTH
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