RE: Would software for non-commercial use be acceptable as a port?

2013-07-28 Thread Peter Looyenga
 This is how DansGuardian works, and it's a part of the ports tree 
 (www/dansguardian). The install points
 the user to the licensing page on the web. It's up to the user to decide if 
 they're eligible for the non-com
 license.

Thanks a lot for that example, that's a very helpful example indeed. Wasn't 
even aware of this one so far.

And apologies for misaddressing my response in the first place, thus making it 
end up in your private mailbox instead of the list.

Kind regards, Peter

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RE: Would software for non-commercial use be acceptable as a port?

2013-07-28 Thread Peter Looyenga
 There are a number of entries in ports/LEGAL along the lines of no
 commercial use, often with RESTRICTED or NO_CDROM or the like also
 set in the ports' Makefile's.  Lots of examples to extrapolate from
 there. 

Thanks for the pointers. I had already skimmed through the Porters handbook
but was under the impression that the limitations one could place on the
software only involved around distribution or storage and not so much other
forms of licensing as well.

Obviously it didn't help to overlook LEGAL completely as well :-)

Now I have plenty of material and examples to work with, and will contact
the company behind this software to check if they agree with my ideas as
well. 


Kind regards,

Peter

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Would software for non-commercial use be acceptable as a port?

2013-07-27 Thread Peter Looyenga
Hi gang,

I've been professionally using FreeBSD for quite some time now (my company
now uses 4 FreeBSD servers for web services) and during the implementation
period I've become quite fascinated with the ports system. And this evening
I suddenly had an idea, but I'm not too sure how feasible this idea is, so
I'm hoping some of you guys would be willing to give me some suggestions or
advice.

I've been using a commercial software product for the past 4 years now; I
started using it on Linux and nowadays I use it on Windows.

The company behind this product provides several editions of their product,
including a community edition which can be used free of charge but
non-commercial use only. It does have some functional limitations which, in
my opinion (but I am biased), aren't really intrusive. For example if you
print some output you'll get a watermark too. Stuff like that.

Even so; I strongly support this software. Like I said before I've been
using it myself for the past 4 years (in all fairness: I got myself a
commercial license too, which wasn't too expensive in my opinion) and even
now I'm still quite passionate about this stuff.


Now; I read that the ports collection provides a /truly/ free environment
and doesn't shun entries which may not match the idea of free and/or open
source software.

So my question should be obvious: Would I be right to assume that the
software product as I described it above could be a liable addition for the
ports collection, or is there something I'm overlooking?

Needless to say I'm obviously contacting the company behind it as well, I
can say I'm in quite good terms with them, and nothing will be done without
their explicit permission.

But before I start on such an endeavor I'd really appreciate if you guys
could confirm (or deny) if my plans are actually feasible?

Am I right to conclude that the product, with the non-commercial clause I
described above, could be a candidate for the ports collection or would the
restriction be a huge obstacle?

Thanks in advance for any comments, I'd really appreciate some advice and/or
comments here.

Kind regards,

Peter 

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Re: Would software for non-commercial use be acceptable as a port?

2013-07-27 Thread Freddie Cash
This is how DansGuardian works, and it's a part of the ports tree
(www/dansguardian). The install points the user to the licensing page on
the web. It's up to the user to decide if they're eligible for the non-com
license.
On 2013-07-27 5:37 PM, Peter Looyenga p...@catslair.org wrote:

 Hi gang,

 I've been professionally using FreeBSD for quite some time now (my company
 now uses 4 FreeBSD servers for web services) and during the implementation
 period I've become quite fascinated with the ports system. And this evening
 I suddenly had an idea, but I'm not too sure how feasible this idea is, so
 I'm hoping some of you guys would be willing to give me some suggestions or
 advice.

 I've been using a commercial software product for the past 4 years now; I
 started using it on Linux and nowadays I use it on Windows.

 The company behind this product provides several editions of their product,
 including a community edition which can be used free of charge but
 non-commercial use only. It does have some functional limitations which, in
 my opinion (but I am biased), aren't really intrusive. For example if you
 print some output you'll get a watermark too. Stuff like that.

 Even so; I strongly support this software. Like I said before I've been
 using it myself for the past 4 years (in all fairness: I got myself a
 commercial license too, which wasn't too expensive in my opinion) and even
 now I'm still quite passionate about this stuff.


 Now; I read that the ports collection provides a /truly/ free environment
 and doesn't shun entries which may not match the idea of free and/or open
 source software.

 So my question should be obvious: Would I be right to assume that the
 software product as I described it above could be a liable addition for the
 ports collection, or is there something I'm overlooking?

 Needless to say I'm obviously contacting the company behind it as well, I
 can say I'm in quite good terms with them, and nothing will be done without
 their explicit permission.

 But before I start on such an endeavor I'd really appreciate if you guys
 could confirm (or deny) if my plans are actually feasible?

 Am I right to conclude that the product, with the non-commercial clause I
 described above, could be a candidate for the ports collection or would the
 restriction be a huge obstacle?

 Thanks in advance for any comments, I'd really appreciate some advice
 and/or
 comments here.

 Kind regards,

 Peter

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Re: Would software for non-commercial use be acceptable as a port?

2013-07-27 Thread Matthew D. Fuller
On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 02:28:31AM +0200 I heard the voice of
Peter Looyenga, and lo! it spake thus:
 
 Am I right to conclude that the product, with the non-commercial
 clause I described above, could be a candidate for the ports
 collection or would the restriction be a huge obstacle?

There are a number of entries in ports/LEGAL along the lines of no
commercial use, often with RESTRICTED or NO_CDROM or the like also
set in the ports' Makefile's.  Lots of examples to extrapolate from
there.  See also
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/porters-handbook/porting-restrictions.html


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Re: Would software for non-commercial use be acceptable as a port?

2013-07-27 Thread Nathan Whitehorn
On 07/27/13 19:28, Peter Looyenga wrote:
 Hi gang,

 I've been professionally using FreeBSD for quite some time now (my company
 now uses 4 FreeBSD servers for web services) and during the implementation
 period I've become quite fascinated with the ports system. And this evening
 I suddenly had an idea, but I'm not too sure how feasible this idea is, so
 I'm hoping some of you guys would be willing to give me some suggestions or
 advice.

 I've been using a commercial software product for the past 4 years now; I
 started using it on Linux and nowadays I use it on Windows.

 The company behind this product provides several editions of their product,
 including a community edition which can be used free of charge but
 non-commercial use only. It does have some functional limitations which, in
 my opinion (but I am biased), aren't really intrusive. For example if you
 print some output you'll get a watermark too. Stuff like that.

 Even so; I strongly support this software. Like I said before I've been
 using it myself for the past 4 years (in all fairness: I got myself a
 commercial license too, which wasn't too expensive in my opinion) and even
 now I'm still quite passionate about this stuff.


 Now; I read that the ports collection provides a /truly/ free environment
 and doesn't shun entries which may not match the idea of free and/or open
 source software.

 So my question should be obvious: Would I be right to assume that the
 software product as I described it above could be a liable addition for the
 ports collection, or is there something I'm overlooking?

 Needless to say I'm obviously contacting the company behind it as well, I
 can say I'm in quite good terms with them, and nothing will be done without
 their explicit permission.

 But before I start on such an endeavor I'd really appreciate if you guys
 could confirm (or deny) if my plans are actually feasible?

 Am I right to conclude that the product, with the non-commercial clause I
 described above, could be a candidate for the ports collection or would the
 restriction be a huge obstacle?


We already have a lot of non-commercial-use software in ports (usually
marked RESTRICTED in the Makefile), so there certainly shouldn't be
any intrinsic difficulty there.
-Nathan
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