Re: firefox is pretty useless ...
On Tue, 11 Jul 2017, Lars Engels wrote:
On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 09:45:10AM -0500, Bob Willcox wrote:
On Wed, Jul 05, 2017 at 02:07:29AM -0400, DTD wrote:
if you use xfce. By definition it is not a problem that:
1) install a new copy of FreeBSD 10.3
2) pkg install xorg
3) pkg install xfce
4) pkg install firefox
installs a firefox package that does not run. The project seems to do a bit
better than this on Windows, but they (I think) have to in that environment. The
official answer to the above is:
--- Comment #1 from Jan Beich ---
Partial upgrades i.e., mixing dependencies from different svn checkouts, dates
of "pkg install" or locking dependencies, are not supported. firefox will
refuse to build unless you upgrade sqlite3. Some version requirement are
specified in the port's Makefile
$ fgrep sqlite www/firefox/Makefile
sqlite3>=3.17.0:databases/sqlite3 \
${PYTHON_PKGNAMEPREFIX}sqlite3>0:databases/py-sqlite3 \
"pkg upgrade" may help you resolve this.
The only problem with this 'solution' is that upgrading sqlite requires a
cascading series of updates that breaks parts of xfce. Other than that no
problem here. So if you use twm firefox is your browser.
The next time I build a system I will try installing firefox first. I got here
because I wanted to ungrade thunar (xfce's file manager). That upgrade broke
the version of firefox that was running (47.somethine). Chasing and fixing that
chain eventually required a reinstall. Happily (for me) chrome works.
Hmm, what firefox port are you building/running? I'm running version 54.0
(firefox-54.0.1_1,1) without any real issues (well, none at this point). I
don't install or run xfce, but use the ctwm window manager (ctwm-4.0.0,1).
Perhaps that's the difference.
I'm also running 10.3:
FreeBSD luke.immure.com 10.3-STABLE FreeBSD 10.3-STABLE #3 r320754: Thu Jul 6
15:13:13 CDT 2017 b...@luke.immure.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/LUKE amd64
As an asside, I recommend running v 54 of firefox in any event. The new
thread support seems to have significantly improved its performance and
stability for me (at least).
Yes, it feels much faster even on my venerable Thinkpad X200.
Thank you both for the feedback. My problem is almost certainly because of xfce.
A number of components share various dynamic libraries. Updating firefox/mozilla
removes various modules or entry points to a module. The thing that sent me off
on the rant was installing on a clean system does not work for 10.3 under
firefox is install prior to xfce. I did a PR on this which was dismissed as, not
a problem. I think that the very least the firefox project can to is to
structure the package so you get a chance to abort the install if you do not
want certain packages updated, removed or replace. The LibreOffice and gimp
packages are structured this way.
I like xfce because compared to Gnome/KDE it is relatively light-weight. It does
not seem to have a large number of FreeBSD users. About building, I am a package
only guy, most of my systems are less than $400, building a workstation is not
an option :) I am using 54.0.1. It is also much faster to start and generally
better for me.
Doug
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Re: firefox is pretty useless ...
On 5-7-2017 08:07, DTD wrote:
> if you use xfce. By definition it is not a problem that:
>
> 1) install a new copy of FreeBSD 10.3
> 2) pkg install xorg
> 3) pkg install xfce
> 4) pkg install firefox
>
> installs a firefox package that does not run. The project seems to do
> a bit
> better than this on Windows, but they (I think) have to in that
> environment. The
> official answer to the above is:
>
> --- Comment #1 from Jan Beich ---
> Partial upgrades i.e., mixing dependencies from different svn
> checkouts, dates
> of "pkg install" or locking dependencies, are not supported. firefox will
> refuse to build unless you upgrade sqlite3. Some version requirement are
> specified in the port's Makefile
>
> $ fgrep sqlite www/firefox/Makefile
> sqlite3>=3.17.0:databases/sqlite3 \
> ${PYTHON_PKGNAMEPREFIX}sqlite3>0:databases/py-sqlite3 \
>
> "pkg upgrade" may help you resolve this.
>
> The only problem with this 'solution' is that upgrading sqlite requires a
> cascading series of updates that breaks parts of xfce. Other than that no
> problem here. So if you use twm firefox is your browser.
>
> The next time I build a system I will try installing firefox first. I
> got here because I wanted to ungrade thunar (xfce's file manager).
> That upgrade broke
> the version of firefox that was running (47.somethine). Chasing and
> fixing that chain eventually required a reinstall. Happily (for me)
> chrome works.
Might this be 10.3-specific?
I'm running Firefox 54.0.1_1,1 on xorg-server 1.18.4_3,1 and xfce
4.12_1, on 11.0-REL-p9 amd64. No problems.
Built on Poudriere, but I ran the same stuff from the offical repo for a
while as well.
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Re: firefox is pretty useless ...
On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 09:45:10AM -0500, Bob Willcox wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 05, 2017 at 02:07:29AM -0400, DTD wrote:
> > if you use xfce. By definition it is not a problem that:
> >
> >1) install a new copy of FreeBSD 10.3
> >2) pkg install xorg
> >3) pkg install xfce
> >4) pkg install firefox
> >
> > installs a firefox package that does not run. The project seems to do a bit
> > better than this on Windows, but they (I think) have to in that
> > environment. The
> > official answer to the above is:
> >
> > --- Comment #1 from Jan Beich ---
> > Partial upgrades i.e., mixing dependencies from different svn checkouts,
> > dates
> > of "pkg install" or locking dependencies, are not supported. firefox will
> > refuse to build unless you upgrade sqlite3. Some version requirement are
> > specified in the port's Makefile
> >
> >$ fgrep sqlite www/firefox/Makefile
> >sqlite3>=3.17.0:databases/sqlite3 \
> >${PYTHON_PKGNAMEPREFIX}sqlite3>0:databases/py-sqlite3 \
> >
> > "pkg upgrade" may help you resolve this.
> >
> > The only problem with this 'solution' is that upgrading sqlite requires a
> > cascading series of updates that breaks parts of xfce. Other than that no
> > problem here. So if you use twm firefox is your browser.
> >
> > The next time I build a system I will try installing firefox first. I got
> > here
> > because I wanted to ungrade thunar (xfce's file manager). That upgrade broke
> > the version of firefox that was running (47.somethine). Chasing and fixing
> > that
> > chain eventually required a reinstall. Happily (for me) chrome works.
>
> Hmm, what firefox port are you building/running? I'm running version 54.0
> (firefox-54.0.1_1,1) without any real issues (well, none at this point). I
> don't install or run xfce, but use the ctwm window manager (ctwm-4.0.0,1).
> Perhaps that's the difference.
>
> I'm also running 10.3:
> FreeBSD luke.immure.com 10.3-STABLE FreeBSD 10.3-STABLE #3 r320754: Thu Jul
> 6 15:13:13 CDT 2017 b...@luke.immure.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/LUKE amd64
>
> As an asside, I recommend running v 54 of firefox in any event. The new
> thread support seems to have significantly improved its performance and
> stability for me (at least).
Yes, it feels much faster even on my venerable Thinkpad X200.
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Re: firefox is pretty useless ...
On Wed, Jul 05, 2017 at 02:07:29AM -0400, DTD wrote:
> if you use xfce. By definition it is not a problem that:
>
>1) install a new copy of FreeBSD 10.3
>2) pkg install xorg
>3) pkg install xfce
>4) pkg install firefox
>
> installs a firefox package that does not run. The project seems to do a bit
> better than this on Windows, but they (I think) have to in that environment.
> The
> official answer to the above is:
>
> --- Comment #1 from Jan Beich ---
> Partial upgrades i.e., mixing dependencies from different svn checkouts, dates
> of "pkg install" or locking dependencies, are not supported. firefox will
> refuse to build unless you upgrade sqlite3. Some version requirement are
> specified in the port's Makefile
>
>$ fgrep sqlite www/firefox/Makefile
>sqlite3>=3.17.0:databases/sqlite3 \
>${PYTHON_PKGNAMEPREFIX}sqlite3>0:databases/py-sqlite3 \
>
> "pkg upgrade" may help you resolve this.
>
> The only problem with this 'solution' is that upgrading sqlite requires a
> cascading series of updates that breaks parts of xfce. Other than that no
> problem here. So if you use twm firefox is your browser.
>
> The next time I build a system I will try installing firefox first. I got
> here
> because I wanted to ungrade thunar (xfce's file manager). That upgrade broke
> the version of firefox that was running (47.somethine). Chasing and fixing
> that
> chain eventually required a reinstall. Happily (for me) chrome works.
Hmm, what firefox port are you building/running? I'm running version 54.0
(firefox-54.0.1_1,1) without any real issues (well, none at this point). I
don't install or run xfce, but use the ctwm window manager (ctwm-4.0.0,1).
Perhaps that's the difference.
I'm also running 10.3:
FreeBSD luke.immure.com 10.3-STABLE FreeBSD 10.3-STABLE #3 r320754: Thu Jul 6
15:13:13 CDT 2017 b...@luke.immure.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/LUKE amd64
As an asside, I recommend running v 54 of firefox in any event. The new
thread support seems to have significantly improved its performance and
stability for me (at least).
>
>
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firefox is pretty useless ...
if you use xfce. By definition it is not a problem that:
1) install a new copy of FreeBSD 10.3
2) pkg install xorg
3) pkg install xfce
4) pkg install firefox
installs a firefox package that does not run. The project seems to do a bit
better than this on Windows, but they (I think) have to in that environment. The
official answer to the above is:
--- Comment #1 from Jan Beich ---
Partial upgrades i.e., mixing dependencies from different svn checkouts, dates
of "pkg install" or locking dependencies, are not supported. firefox will
refuse to build unless you upgrade sqlite3. Some version requirement are
specified in the port's Makefile
$ fgrep sqlite www/firefox/Makefile
sqlite3>=3.17.0:databases/sqlite3 \
${PYTHON_PKGNAMEPREFIX}sqlite3>0:databases/py-sqlite3 \
"pkg upgrade" may help you resolve this.
The only problem with this 'solution' is that upgrading sqlite requires a
cascading series of updates that breaks parts of xfce. Other than that no
problem here. So if you use twm firefox is your browser.
The next time I build a system I will try installing firefox first. I got here
because I wanted to ungrade thunar (xfce's file manager). That upgrade broke
the version of firefox that was running (47.somethine). Chasing and fixing that
chain eventually required a reinstall. Happily (for me) chrome works.
_
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http://www.safeport.com
d...@safeport.com
Voice: 301-217-9220
Fax: 301-217-9277
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