Re: net/samba4* build dependencies

[Horatiu MOLDOVAN]

On 12/06/2015 23:58, Dimitry Andric wrote:

On 10 Jun 2015, at 22:19, Horatiu MOLDOVAN  wrote:

Trying to replace samba 3.6 i've observed some disturbing things on samba 4.x 
build:
- security/cyrus-sasl2, security/libgcrypt and security/gnutls are mandatory 
lib dependencies - is there a reason to add garbage to the system?

Apparently it is still a TODO, the Makefile has this comment, just
before pulling in those dependencies:

# XXX: Unconditional dependencies which can't be switched off (if present
# in the system)

As far as dependencies on gnutls (and its dependencies like libgcrypt)
go, it looks like samba implements its TLS support using these.  As a
GPL project, I don't think they support using e.g. OpenSSL instead.  And
you could say that OpenSSL is in its own class of "garbage". :-)

That said, the TLS support seems to be required only for ADS support, so
turning ADS off should ideally also turn off the gnutls dependencies.

Similarly, SASL seems to be required for ADS too, but it isn't disabled
if you disable ADS, so that is another feature that could be improved in
the Makefile.



- OpenLDAP is built unconditionally regardless of the LDAP option setting - 
again, is there a reason to add more garbage to the system?

This is because the Makefile unconditionally requires databases/ldb, and
that port in turn unconditionally requires openldap... :-(

So probably the best option would be to automatically disable ldb
support, if ldap support is turned off.



not sure why dns/py-dnspython is a build dependency...

It looks like samba's build system (based on waf) uses this during the
build.  See the lib/wscript_build file in the work directory.  I have
no idea why samba wants to do DNS lookups during its build, which is
rather strange.

-Dimitry



Thank you for clarifying these, guess i'll just have to make a temporary 
patch to the Makefile until these are addressed.


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Re: net/samba4* build dependencies

[Dimitry Andric]

On 10 Jun 2015, at 22:19, Horatiu MOLDOVAN  wrote:
> Trying to replace samba 3.6 i've observed some disturbing things on samba 4.x 
> build:
> - security/cyrus-sasl2, security/libgcrypt and security/gnutls are mandatory 
> lib dependencies - is there a reason to add garbage to the system?

Apparently it is still a TODO, the Makefile has this comment, just
before pulling in those dependencies:

# XXX: Unconditional dependencies which can't be switched off (if present
# in the system)

As far as dependencies on gnutls (and its dependencies like libgcrypt)
go, it looks like samba implements its TLS support using these.  As a
GPL project, I don't think they support using e.g. OpenSSL instead.  And
you could say that OpenSSL is in its own class of "garbage". :-)

That said, the TLS support seems to be required only for ADS support, so
turning ADS off should ideally also turn off the gnutls dependencies.

Similarly, SASL seems to be required for ADS too, but it isn't disabled
if you disable ADS, so that is another feature that could be improved in
the Makefile.


> - OpenLDAP is built unconditionally regardless of the LDAP option setting - 
> again, is there a reason to add more garbage to the system?

This is because the Makefile unconditionally requires databases/ldb, and
that port in turn unconditionally requires openldap... :-(

So probably the best option would be to automatically disable ldb
support, if ldap support is turned off.


> not sure why dns/py-dnspython is a build dependency...

It looks like samba's build system (based on waf) uses this during the
build.  See the lib/wscript_build file in the work directory.  I have
no idea why samba wants to do DNS lookups during its build, which is
rather strange.

-Dimitry



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Re: net/samba4* build dependencies

[Horatiu MOLDOVAN]

Why add samba? Because windows... and it was supposed to be "garbage", 
thought the quotes were implicitly understood.
Thank you for the quick response tho, I've remembered why I've given up 
on posting to FBSD mailing lists a few years ago.


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H.

On 11/06/2015 10:44, Timur I. Bakeyev wrote:
Speaking of the garbage in a system - why to add Samba in the first 
place :)?


On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 10:19 PM, Horatiu MOLDOVAN > wrote:


Hi,
Trying to replace samba 3.6 i've observed some disturbing things
on samba 4.x build:
- security/cyrus-sasl2, security/libgcrypt and security/gnutls are
mandatory lib dependencies - is there a reason to add garbage to
the system?
- OpenLDAP is built unconditionally regardless of the LDAP option
setting - again, is there a reason to add more garbage to the system?
not sure why dns/py-dnspython is a build dependency...

(Test build options: ACL AIO FAM PTHREADPOOL QUOTAS UTMP)

Can someone clarify these?
Thank you,
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Re: net/samba4* build dependencies

[Timur I. Bakeyev]

Speaking of the garbage in a system - why to add Samba in the first place
:)?

On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 10:19 PM, Horatiu MOLDOVAN  wrote:

> Hi,
> Trying to replace samba 3.6 i've observed some disturbing things on samba
> 4.x build:
> - security/cyrus-sasl2, security/libgcrypt and security/gnutls are
> mandatory lib dependencies - is there a reason to add garbage to the system?
> - OpenLDAP is built unconditionally regardless of the LDAP option setting
> - again, is there a reason to add more garbage to the system?
> not sure why dns/py-dnspython is a build dependency...
>
> (Test build options: ACL AIO FAM PTHREADPOOL QUOTAS UTMP)
>
> Can someone clarify these?
> Thank you,
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net/samba4* build dependencies

[Horatiu MOLDOVAN]

Hi,
Trying to replace samba 3.6 i've observed some disturbing things on 
samba 4.x build:
- security/cyrus-sasl2, security/libgcrypt and security/gnutls are 
mandatory lib dependencies - is there a reason to add garbage to the system?
- OpenLDAP is built unconditionally regardless of the LDAP option 
setting - again, is there a reason to add more garbage to the system?

not sure why dns/py-dnspython is a build dependency...

(Test build options: ACL AIO FAM PTHREADPOOL QUOTAS UTMP)

Can someone clarify these?
Thank you,
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H.

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