Re: www/luakit users?

2019-03-16 Thread Kurt Jaeger
Hi!

> Milan Obuch wrote:
> > maintainer address from port at that time... po...@textmail.me
> 
> This is mine and it shouldn't bounce. Hmm. I'll look into it.

That po...@textmail.me is the same as sh+po...@codevoid.de
and sh+freebsd-bugzi...@codevoid.de is not immediatly obvious to
the casual committer 8-}

> Just so we talk about the same...
> Web: https://luakit.github.io (or luakit.org)

pkg-descr needs the new URL.

Can you investigate/fix the portlint issue with the man page ?

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Re: www/luakit users?

2019-03-16 Thread Milan Obuch
On Sat, 16 Mar 2019 10:09:32 +0100
Stefan Hagen  wrote:

> Milan Obuch wrote:
> > maintainer address from port at that time... po...@textmail.me  
> 
> This is mine and it shouldn't bounce. Hmm. I'll look into it.
>

Just tried it again, in my mail server log it gets:

554 5.7.1 : Recipient address rejected: Access denied

> > Well, my personal preference for such a project would be mailing
> > list with archive, as it is quite common here, maybe wiki, which
> > exists for luakit too, but it is marked outdated. Current issue
> > tracker would need at least some easy to use search engine...  
> 
> The current issue tracker is Github. Is this search not sufficient?
> 
> Just so we talk about the same...
> Web: https://luakit.github.io (or luakit.org)
> Source: https://github.com/luakit/luakit
> 
> The update to the latest Version (2.1) has not yet been committed:
> https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=233711
> 
> There was mailing list / google group in the past, but has been 
> discontinued in favor of IRC and the Github issue tracker.
>

Personal preferences/taste differs... I'll look into it again.

> >>> What I need find now is following: in a special arrangement, I
> >>> have luakit started directly from startx script, so I have some
> >>> kind of kiosk. Basically it works OK, I just need change mouse
> >>> cursor shape. Googling did not reveal anything for me, but maybe
> >>> someone knows better than I...  
> >>
> >> Will "xsetroot -cursor_name arrow" fix this for you?
> >>  
> > I'll try - I just need to find the right place to put it in (startx
> > itself, or start from luakit...)  
> 
> Put it into the .xinitrc before luakit.
>

Seems good, I'll test.

> > Is it possible to use newer sources? There is no newer source
> > tarball published, but it should be possible to use some carefully
> > chosen snapshot from GitHub... That being written, I have no much
> > experiences with choosing the right one, actually I am just
> > discovering luakit and found it really interesting.  
> 
> Using snapshots was not a good idea in the state the software was/is. 
> Due to active developments, lot of incompatible changes where made
> which broke the configuration. I don't want to push anything to
> FreeBSD which breaks configuration without having documentation ready
> about how to fix it.
> 
> However, building the latest version from source or doing a small
> change in the port to target a snapshot is not a big undertaking. 
> 
> > Also, I would like to change cursor shapes used in luakit. Could you
> > advice something? I am testing luakit in XFCE, but I have special
> > setup with luakit started directly from xinit with no window
> > manager as well, where this ability is requested.  
> 
> Luakit right now is not doing anything with the cursor. What you can
> do is to either set the cursor with Xorg tools before starting luakit
> or you can open a feature request on Github and describe the desired
> behavior. Luakit could probably set the arrow cursor and maybe a hand
> over links like firefox does.
>

I'll test the former first.

> I won't patch features into the port, so the request should go to 
> upstream luakit.
> 

Reasonable, understood.

Regards,
Milan
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Re: www/luakit users?

2019-03-16 Thread Stefan Hagen

Milan Obuch wrote:

maintainer address from port at that time... po...@textmail.me


This is mine and it shouldn't bounce. Hmm. I'll look into it.


Well, my personal preference for such a project would be mailing list
with archive, as it is quite common here, maybe wiki, which exists for
luakit too, but it is marked outdated. Current issue tracker would need
at least some easy to use search engine...


The current issue tracker is Github. Is this search not sufficient?

Just so we talk about the same...
Web: https://luakit.github.io (or luakit.org)
Source: https://github.com/luakit/luakit

The update to the latest Version (2.1) has not yet been committed:
https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=233711

There was mailing list / google group in the past, but has been 
discontinued in favor of IRC and the Github issue tracker.



What I need find now is following: in a special arrangement, I have
luakit started directly from startx script, so I have some kind of
kiosk. Basically it works OK, I just need change mouse cursor shape.
Googling did not reveal anything for me, but maybe someone knows
better than I...


Will "xsetroot -cursor_name arrow" fix this for you?


I'll try - I just need to find the right place to put it in (startx
itself, or start from luakit...)


Put it into the .xinitrc before luakit.


Is it possible to use newer sources? There is no newer source tarball
published, but it should be possible to use some carefully chosen
snapshot from GitHub... That being written, I have no much experiences
with choosing the right one, actually I am just discovering luakit and
found it really interesting.


Using snapshots was not a good idea in the state the software was/is. 
Due to active developments, lot of incompatible changes where made which 
broke the configuration. I don't want to push anything to FreeBSD which 
breaks configuration without having documentation ready about how to fix 
it.


However, building the latest version from source or doing a small change
in the port to target a snapshot is not a big undertaking. 


Also, I would like to change cursor shapes used in luakit. Could you
advice something? I am testing luakit in XFCE, but I have special setup
with luakit started directly from xinit with no window manager as well,
where this ability is requested.


Luakit right now is not doing anything with the cursor. What you can
do is to either set the cursor with Xorg tools before starting luakit
or you can open a feature request on Github and describe the desired
behavior. Luakit could probably set the arrow cursor and maybe a hand
over links like firefox does.

I won't patch features into the port, so the request should go to 
upstream luakit.


Best Regards,
Stefan

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Re: www/luakit users?

2019-03-15 Thread dimpase+freebsd
On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 12:09:28PM +0100, Milan Obuch wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Mar 2019 11:47:11 +0100
> Stefan Hagen  wrote:
> 
> > Hi Milan,
> > 
> > Milan Obuch wrote:
> > > some time ago I tried to write port maintainer just to get bounce
> > > back... Now I see maintainer is reset.  
> > 
> > Which E-Mail Address did you use? I took over the laukit port about a
> > year ago when development started to happen again and the migration to
> > webkit2 has happened.
> >
> 
> Hi,
> 
> maintainer address from port at that time... po...@textmail.me
> 
> > > I am curious if I can find some other users of this really
> > > interesting browser, maybe try to build development version...
> > > There is no much info I found, but it still seems to be actively
> > > developed, at least there are some new entries in issue tracker.  
> > 
> > It is surely not a mainstream browser, but you can find a few users on
> > OFTC in #luakit

OFTC provides a way to access IRC's freenode's channels, such as #luakit
So if you know how to use IRC, that's all you need to know : #luakit on
freenode

else see https://www.oftc.net/FAQ/

HTH
Dima

> >
> 
> No idea what's OFTC is... but luakit is surely really interesting,
> scripting abilities are interesting. Also, it is lightweight, at least
> compared with standard browsers like chrome, firefox and similar.
> 
> > I agree that the issue tracker is a bit messy right now. Many entries 
> > are for the old webkit1 version of luakit. Some of them may not be
> > valid anymore after the refactoring, some still might be. Some
> > plugins could still be migrated.
> >
> 
> Well, my personal preference for such a project would be mailing list
> with archive, as it is quite common here, maybe wiki, which exists for
> luakit too, but it is marked outdated. Current issue tracker would need
> at least some easy to use search engine...
> 
> > > What I need find now is following: in a special arrangement, I have
> > > luakit started directly from startx script, so I have some kind of
> > > kiosk. Basically it works OK, I just need change mouse cursor shape.
> > > Googling did not reveal anything for me, but maybe someone knows
> > > better than I...  
> > 
> > So I assume after starting X you have the "X" shaped mouse cursor.
> 
> Yes - something like this. And some kind of arrow when hovering over
> link.
> 
> > Will "xsetroot -cursor_name arrow" fix this for you?
> > 
> 
> I'll try - I just need to find the right place to put it in (startx
> itself, or start from luakit...)
> 
> Thanks for hint.
> 
> Regards,
> Milan
> 
> N. B. Here is a copy of my older mail, which bounced, jff (just for fun)
> 
> Hi,
> 
> this address is listed as maintainer of luakit port for FreeBSD...
> 
> Is it possible to use newer sources? There is no newer source tarball
> published, but it should be possible to use some carefully chosen
> snapshot from GitHub... That being written, I have no much experiences
> with choosing the right one, actually I am just discovering luakit and
> found it really interesting.
> 
> Also, I would like to change cursor shapes used in luakit. Could you
> advice something? I am testing luakit in XFCE, but I have special setup
> with luakit started directly from xinit with no window manager as well,
> where this ability is requested.
> 
> Regards,
> Milan
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Re: www/luakit users?

2019-03-15 Thread Milan Obuch
On Fri, 15 Mar 2019 11:47:11 +0100
Stefan Hagen  wrote:

> Hi Milan,
> 
> Milan Obuch wrote:
> > some time ago I tried to write port maintainer just to get bounce
> > back... Now I see maintainer is reset.  
> 
> Which E-Mail Address did you use? I took over the laukit port about a
> year ago when development started to happen again and the migration to
> webkit2 has happened.
>

Hi,

maintainer address from port at that time... po...@textmail.me

> > I am curious if I can find some other users of this really
> > interesting browser, maybe try to build development version...
> > There is no much info I found, but it still seems to be actively
> > developed, at least there are some new entries in issue tracker.  
> 
> It is surely not a mainstream browser, but you can find a few users on
> OFTC in #luakit
>

No idea what's OFTC is... but luakit is surely really interesting,
scripting abilities are interesting. Also, it is lightweight, at least
compared with standard browsers like chrome, firefox and similar.

> I agree that the issue tracker is a bit messy right now. Many entries 
> are for the old webkit1 version of luakit. Some of them may not be
> valid anymore after the refactoring, some still might be. Some
> plugins could still be migrated.
>

Well, my personal preference for such a project would be mailing list
with archive, as it is quite common here, maybe wiki, which exists for
luakit too, but it is marked outdated. Current issue tracker would need
at least some easy to use search engine...

> > What I need find now is following: in a special arrangement, I have
> > luakit started directly from startx script, so I have some kind of
> > kiosk. Basically it works OK, I just need change mouse cursor shape.
> > Googling did not reveal anything for me, but maybe someone knows
> > better than I...  
> 
> So I assume after starting X you have the "X" shaped mouse cursor.

Yes - something like this. And some kind of arrow when hovering over
link.

> Will "xsetroot -cursor_name arrow" fix this for you?
> 

I'll try - I just need to find the right place to put it in (startx
itself, or start from luakit...)

Thanks for hint.

Regards,
Milan

N. B. Here is a copy of my older mail, which bounced, jff (just for fun)

Hi,

this address is listed as maintainer of luakit port for FreeBSD...

Is it possible to use newer sources? There is no newer source tarball
published, but it should be possible to use some carefully chosen
snapshot from GitHub... That being written, I have no much experiences
with choosing the right one, actually I am just discovering luakit and
found it really interesting.

Also, I would like to change cursor shapes used in luakit. Could you
advice something? I am testing luakit in XFCE, but I have special setup
with luakit started directly from xinit with no window manager as well,
where this ability is requested.

Regards,
Milan
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Re: www/luakit users?

2019-03-15 Thread Stefan Hagen

Hi Milan,

Milan Obuch wrote:

some time ago I tried to write port maintainer just to get bounce
back... Now I see maintainer is reset.


Which E-Mail Address did you use? I took over the laukit port about a
year ago when development started to happen again and the migration to
webkit2 has happened.


I am curious if I can find some other users of this really interesting
browser, maybe try to build development version... There is no much
info I found, but it still seems to be actively developed, at least
there are some new entries in issue tracker.


It is surely not a mainstream browser, but you can find a few users on
OFTC in #luakit

I agree that the issue tracker is a bit messy right now. Many entries 
are for the old webkit1 version of luakit. Some of them may not be valid 
anymore after the refactoring, some still might be. Some plugins could 
still be migrated.



What I need find now is following: in a special arrangement, I have
luakit started directly from startx script, so I have some kind of
kiosk. Basically it works OK, I just need change mouse cursor shape.
Googling did not reveal anything for me, but maybe someone knows
better than I...


So I assume after starting X you have the "X" shaped mouse cursor.
Will "xsetroot -cursor_name arrow" fix this for you?

Best Regards,
Stefan

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www/luakit users?

2019-03-14 Thread Milan Obuch
Hi,

some time ago I tried to write port maintainer just to get bounce
back... Now I see maintainer is reset.

I am curious if I can find some other users of this really
interesting browser, maybe try to build development version... There is
no much info I found, but it still seems to be actively developed, at
least there are some new entries in issue tracker.

What I need find now is following: in a special arrangement, I have
luakit started directly from startx script, so I have some kind of
kiosk. Basically it works OK, I just need change mouse cursor shape.
Googling did not reveal anything for me, but maybe someone knows better
than I...

Regards,
Milan
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