Re: www/nginx-devel Name Change

2015-03-06 Thread Sergey A. Osokin
Hi Robert,

On Wed, Mar 04, 2015 at 04:52:58PM -0500, Robert Simmons wrote:
 The port www/nginx-devel should really be renamed nginx-mainline. It
 is definitely not the development branch as is explained by the
 upstream project. Calling it devel may cause users to avoid using this
 port over the www/nginx port.
 
 I have a detailed explanation of this in a bug report here:
 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=196480
 
 Does this seem logical?

Objection.

The nginx project basically provides two versions of nginx: stable and mainline.
New releases of the stable version contains bug and security fixes.
The mainline usually introduces a bugs in a new features.  This is why it has 
been
marked with '-devel' suffix.

For stable version FreeBSD ports tree historycally uses the same name as a 
software 
product has been named by author, for development version with '-devel' prefix.

Also, I see no reason why user may cause to avoid using the www/nginx-devel 
port.
Think it's always up to user to use or not to use any port from FreeBSD ports 
tree
as well as FreeBSD operating system.

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Re: www/nginx-devel Name Change

2015-03-06 Thread Robert Simmons
Also, I don't believe that bugs in new features has the same meaning
as development.

On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 1:46 AM, Robert Simmons rsimmo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Here is a quote from the NGINX project:

 Which version should I use?

 In general, you should deploy the NGINX mainline branch at all times.
 You may wish to use stable if you are concerned about possible impacts
 of new features, such as incompatibility with third-party modules or
 the introduction of bugs in new features.


 From this and checking the source code repository here:
 hg.nginx.org/nginx the development branch is default. Perhaps the
 -devel port should be tied to a specific date on the true development
 branch?

 I am only interested in calling a spade a spade here to reduce
 confusion. If the NGINX project called mainline development there
 wouldn't be a problem. But it seems that this is a distinction that
 FreeBSD has decided rather than using upstream terminology and
 thinking.

 On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 11:02 PM, Sergey A. Osokin o...@freebsd.org wrote:
 Hi Robert,

 On Wed, Mar 04, 2015 at 04:52:58PM -0500, Robert Simmons wrote:
 The port www/nginx-devel should really be renamed nginx-mainline. It
 is definitely not the development branch as is explained by the
 upstream project. Calling it devel may cause users to avoid using this
 port over the www/nginx port.

 I have a detailed explanation of this in a bug report here:
 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=196480

 Does this seem logical?

 Objection.

 The nginx project basically provides two versions of nginx: stable and 
 mainline.
 New releases of the stable version contains bug and security fixes.
 The mainline usually introduces a bugs in a new features.  This is why it 
 has been
 marked with '-devel' suffix.

 For stable version FreeBSD ports tree historycally uses the same name as a 
 software
 product has been named by author, for development version with '-devel' 
 prefix.

 Also, I see no reason why user may cause to avoid using the www/nginx-devel 
 port.
 Think it's always up to user to use or not to use any port from FreeBSD 
 ports tree
 as well as FreeBSD operating system.

 --
 Sergey A. Osokin
 o...@freebsd.org
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Re: www/nginx-devel Name Change

2015-03-06 Thread Robert Simmons
Here is a quote from the NGINX project:

Which version should I use?

In general, you should deploy the NGINX mainline branch at all times.
You may wish to use stable if you are concerned about possible impacts
of new features, such as incompatibility with third-party modules or
the introduction of bugs in new features.


From this and checking the source code repository here:
hg.nginx.org/nginx the development branch is default. Perhaps the
-devel port should be tied to a specific date on the true development
branch?

I am only interested in calling a spade a spade here to reduce
confusion. If the NGINX project called mainline development there
wouldn't be a problem. But it seems that this is a distinction that
FreeBSD has decided rather than using upstream terminology and
thinking.

On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 11:02 PM, Sergey A. Osokin o...@freebsd.org wrote:
 Hi Robert,

 On Wed, Mar 04, 2015 at 04:52:58PM -0500, Robert Simmons wrote:
 The port www/nginx-devel should really be renamed nginx-mainline. It
 is definitely not the development branch as is explained by the
 upstream project. Calling it devel may cause users to avoid using this
 port over the www/nginx port.

 I have a detailed explanation of this in a bug report here:
 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=196480

 Does this seem logical?

 Objection.

 The nginx project basically provides two versions of nginx: stable and 
 mainline.
 New releases of the stable version contains bug and security fixes.
 The mainline usually introduces a bugs in a new features.  This is why it has 
 been
 marked with '-devel' suffix.

 For stable version FreeBSD ports tree historycally uses the same name as a 
 software
 product has been named by author, for development version with '-devel' 
 prefix.

 Also, I see no reason why user may cause to avoid using the www/nginx-devel 
 port.
 Think it's always up to user to use or not to use any port from FreeBSD ports 
 tree
 as well as FreeBSD operating system.

 --
 Sergey A. Osokin
 o...@freebsd.org
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www/nginx-devel Name Change

2015-03-04 Thread Robert Simmons
The port www/nginx-devel should really be renamed nginx-mainline. It
is definitely not the development branch as is explained by the
upstream project. Calling it devel may cause users to avoid using this
port over the www/nginx port.

I have a detailed explanation of this in a bug report here:
https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=196480

Does this seem logical?
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