Re: where to put tarball

[Kliment Andreev]

> I'm wondering where is the proper location to put a tarball (containing
source code) that I've downloaded and want to untar and compile. In Linux,
you generally would put it in /usr/src. I know all the FreeBSD documentation
says /usr/local is where all your personalized software

I put the tarballs in /tmp. Then I use make which actually compiles/installs
software. You can override default install directory. After that, I simply
rm -Rf /tmp/tarball.

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Re: dot.bashrc, where is it?

[Gary Jennejohn]

"Didier Wiroth" writes:
> Hi,
> 
> What do I have to install to have the:
> /usr/share/skel/dot.bashrc sample file copied?
> Or where can I download it?
> 
> I'm running 4.8-release.
> 

There is no default .bashrc. You have to make your own. bash is
optionally installed by the user and is not part of the base system,
that's why no dot.bashrc is included with FreeBSD (this isn't
Linux).

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[doc pointer] Re: where to put tarball

[Lowell Gilbert]

Robert Storey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I'm wondering where is the proper location to put a tarball (containing source code) 
> that I've downloaded and want to untar and compile. In Linux, you generally would 
> put it in /usr/src. I know all the FreeBSD documentation says /usr/local is where 
> all your personalized software should go, but I see that there is no /usr/local/src 
> directory. Of course, I can make a /usr/local/src directory, but my question is: Is 
> that a good idea? Sorry if this sounds like a stupid question, but I thought it 
> would be wise to develop good habits and not install things where they don't belong.

FreeBSD has a whole subsystem for managing the third-party code.

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports.html
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Re: dot.bashrc, where is it?

[Lowell Gilbert]

"Didier Wiroth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Thanks for answering!
> I know it isn't needed, but as I'm a beginner I would really like to have a
> sample to customize and learn, that's why I asked
> The PATH variables etc..,

Okay, well, my version is:



# default .bashrc for be-well.ilk.org
# adapted from Lowell's .bashrc as of 17/March/2001
#

#
# A bunch of local aliases, mostly as examples
#
alias   ls='ls -F'
alias   xstart='startx -- -bpp 16'


# Set a simple prompt
PS1='[\!] \W> ' ; PS2='  \W>> '

# set up Bash to not save repeated command lines
HISTCONTROL=ignoreboth
## emacs for an editor...
export EDITOR=emacs
## home machine's firewall stops FTP Port commands
export  FTP_PASSIVE_MODE=YES

if [ -f ~/.bash_path ] ; then source ~/.bash_path ; fi
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Multicast Routing Performance

[Gavin Kenny]

Does any one have any experience of using a FreeBSD
Box as a multicast router?

I have a PIII 800Mhz with two 100Mbps NICS, what kind
of throughput can I expect to get out of this setup?

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where to put tarball

[Robert Storey]

I'm wondering where is the proper location to put a tarball (containing source code) 
that I've downloaded and want to untar and compile. In Linux, you generally would put 
it in /usr/src. I know all the FreeBSD documentation says /usr/local is where all your 
personalized software should go, but I see that there is no /usr/local/src directory. 
Of course, I can make a /usr/local/src directory, but my question is: Is that a good 
idea? Sorry if this sounds like a stupid question, but I thought it would be wise to 
develop good habits and not install things where they don't belong.

TIA,
Robert
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FW: dot.bashrc, where is it?

[Didier Wiroth]

Hi,
Thanks for answering!
I know it isn't needed, but as I'm a beginner I would really like to have a
sample to customize and learn, that's why I asked The PATH variables etc..,

Didier

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Subject: Re: dot.bashrc, where is it?


"Didier Wiroth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> What do I have to install to have the: /usr/share/skel/dot.bashrc
> sample file copied? Or where can I download it?

There isn't one, by default.  I created my own, for things where I didn't
like the default behaviour of bash, but you don't actually need a .bashrc at
all.

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RE: dot.bashrc, where is it?

[Didier Wiroth]

Hi,
Thanks for answering!
I know it isn't needed, but as I'm a beginner I would really like to have a
sample to customize and learn, that's why I asked
The PATH variables etc..,

Didier

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Subject: Re: dot.bashrc, where is it?


"Didier Wiroth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> What do I have to install to have the: /usr/share/skel/dot.bashrc 
> sample file copied? Or where can I download it?

There isn't one, by default.  I created my own, for things where I didn't
like the default behaviour of bash, but you don't actually need a .bashrc at
all.

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Re: dot.bashrc, where is it?

[Lowell Gilbert]

"Didier Wiroth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> What do I have to install to have the:
> /usr/share/skel/dot.bashrc sample file copied?
> Or where can I download it?

There isn't one, by default.  I created my own, for things where I
didn't like the default behaviour of bash, but you don't actually need
a .bashrc at all.

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dot.bashrc, where is it?

[Didier Wiroth]

Hi,

What do I have to install to have the:
/usr/share/skel/dot.bashrc sample file copied?
Or where can I download it?

I'm running 4.8-release.

Thanks a lot
Didier Wiroth

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Re: FreeBSD 5.0 /etc/rc.d/ipsec

[William Fletcher]

Since I'm replying to my own post, 5.1 fixes the /etc/rc.d/ipsec problem.

Thanks to Miguel Mendez for his useful input :-) 

On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 01:08:05PM +0200, William Fletcher wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> After one of my 5.0 machines rebooted moaning about it couldn't find 
> /etc/ipsec.conf I investigated since I keep it in /usr/local/etc/ipsec.conf.
> 
> Anyway, the file is as follows... 
> 
> # This will be overiden from rc.conf on FreeBSD.
> ipsec_file="/etc/ipsec.conf"
> start_precmd="ipsec_prestart"
> start_cmd="ipsec_start"
> stop_precmd="test -f /etc/ipsec.conf"
> stop_cmd="ipsec_stop"
> reload_cmd="ipsec_reload"
> extra_commands="reload"
> 
> Anyway, unless I'm mistaken, this is overwriting my variables from 
> /etc/rc.conf. 
> 
> Where should I e-mail about this, FreeBSD-bugs? Is it there for a 
> reason? 
> 
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Re: Apache - mod_perl - PostgreSQL

[Kliment Ognianov]

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Hi all!
I did the portupgrade of postgresql 7.3.2 -> 7.3.3 this morning.  
Since then my mod_perl web pages will not talk to the databases.
It's wierd:
1) postmaster is running, and I can manually psql and see the conent 
of the databases OK.
2) Apache is running, and mod_perl is still good because the rest of 
the perl-generated page comes up fine.
3) I can't track down any error messages in the apache logs.
The SQL queries from perl just return empty results from the 
databases!  When I manually run the identical query in psql it returns 
the correct results.
Has anyone else had anything funny like this happen recently?
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RE: PPPoE load balancing

[Scott Hiemstra]

Valid point, I must have been dreaming when I originally read his post...
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(B> Purchasing a hardware solution; I've never used one personally but I have
(B> heard good things about the Fatpipe Superstream from friends ($3,000 or
(Bso).
(B> Several other companies make the exact same thing just in different forms.
(B> It will allow you to bond multiple dsl/cable whatever and you don't need
(B> BGP.  To implement BGP normally you need a pretty beefy router (My
(Bfeelings
(B> are a cisco 3600 and up).
(B>
(B> Scott
(B>
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Apache - mod_perl - PostgreSQL

[bsd]

Hi all! 

I did the portupgrade of postgresql 7.3.2 -> 7.3.3 this morning.  Since then 
my mod_perl web pages will not talk to the databases. 

It's wierd: 

1) postmaster is running, and I can manually psql and see the conent of the 
databases OK. 

2) Apache is running, and mod_perl is still good because the rest of the 
perl-generated page comes up fine. 

3) I can't track down any error messages in the apache logs. 

The SQL queries from perl just return empty results from the databases!  
When I manually run the identical query in psql it returns the correct 
results. 

Has anyone else had anything funny like this happen recently? 

Regards,
Patrick.
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Re: PPPoE load balancing

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(B> Purchasing a hardware solution; I've never used one personally but I have
(B> heard good things about the Fatpipe Superstream from friends ($3,000 or
(Bso).
(B> Several other companies make the exact same thing just in different forms.
(B> It will allow you to bond multiple dsl/cable whatever and you don't need
(B> BGP.  To implement BGP normally you need a pretty beefy router (My
(Bfeelings
(B> are a cisco 3600 and up).
(B>
(B> Scott
(B>
(B>
(B
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adsl pci cards

[Andrea Venturoli]

** Reply to note from Gianmarco Giovannelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Tue, 03 Jun 2003 
07:52:02 +0200

>Hi,
>I'd like to make an adsl router using an epia mb with an adsl pci card (if 
>possible:-).
  
Go with an ethernet modem.

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RE: Can you copy freebsd from one of my present machine and loaditto a new

[Peut Kotze]

You can use "dd" to make a copy of your disc to another disc (the
easiest way is to slot the other disc into your current machine), then
slot that disc back into your backup machine and bootup as always (given
your backup server has more or less the same HW configuration,
especially the type of NIC's etc., else you will need to modify your
config accordingly)

To "copy" your current system to CDR wouldn't work since the system
needs a writable filesystem to bootup in normal (multi user) mode. To
accomplish this with a CD you'll need to twist and tweak things.

Hope this Helps
Peut

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loadit to a new


DanB wrote:

>Can you copy freebsd and its configuration from one of my present
>machine and load it to a new machine so I can do some repairs on it.
>Maybe copy to a CDR and boot from that.
>
>Dan
>  
>
sure, for $500


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FreeBSD 5.0 /etc/rc.d/ipsec

[William Fletcher]

Hi,

After one of my 5.0 machines rebooted moaning about it couldn't find 
/etc/ipsec.conf I investigated since I keep it in /usr/local/etc/ipsec.conf.

Anyway, the file is as follows... 

# This will be overiden from rc.conf on FreeBSD.
ipsec_file="/etc/ipsec.conf"
start_precmd="ipsec_prestart"
start_cmd="ipsec_start"
stop_precmd="test -f /etc/ipsec.conf"
stop_cmd="ipsec_stop"
reload_cmd="ipsec_reload"
extra_commands="reload"

Anyway, unless I'm mistaken, this is overwriting my variables from 
/etc/rc.conf. 

Where should I e-mail about this, FreeBSD-bugs? Is it there for a 
reason? 

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Re: Can you copy freebsd from one of my present machine and loadit to a new

[Matt Heath]

DanB wrote:

Can you copy freebsd and its configuration from one of my present
machine and load it to a new machine so I can do some repairs on it.
Maybe copy to a CDR and boot from that.
Dan
 

sure, for $500

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Re: Hardware supported?

[Alastair G. Hogge]

On Wednesday, 04 June 2003 11:28, Vulpes Velox wrote:
> I don't know about the sun, but the video card should work nicely. It
> should be supported by the drm in the kernel and X should play nicely with
> it.
Well actually the 9700PRO is supported to some extent. And that extent is 2D 
XFree86 only. No DRM as of this time, however, ATI releases binary 
drivers(FireGL) for Linux that provide 3D acceleration for the 9700.

Maybe some kind emails to ATI might get some FreeBSD attention..

-Alastair

> On Tue, 3 Jun 2003 01:13:27 +0200
>
> "Sandor \"fisty\" Renz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > my name is Sandor Renz!
> > ive been using freebsd for some time on a pc now!and now i would like to
> > make it as my main os on my main pc, but i dont know if my video card is
> > supported?i have a Ati radeon 9700pro is this card supported??? another
> > questien i have a SunBlade 100 will the ultrasparc version of FreeBSD
> > work on my workstation? thx in advantage for ur respond:D
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Re: Hardware supported?

[Jud]

On Tue, 3 Jun 2003 20:28:55 -0500, Vulpes Velox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

I don't know about the sun, but the video card should work nicely. It 
should be supported by the drm in the kernel and X should play nicely 
with it.

On Tue, 3 Jun 2003 01:13:27 +0200
"Sandor \"fisty\" Renz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi,
my name is Sandor Renz!
ive been using freebsd for some time on a pc now!and now i would like to 
make it as my main os on my main pc, but i dont know if my video card is 
supported?i have a Ati radeon 9700pro is this card supported???
another questien i have a SunBlade 100 will the ultrasparc version of 
FreeBSD work on my workstation?
thx in advantage for ur respond:D
best regards Sandor Renz
I have a Radeon 9500 modded to 9700 with RivaTuner.  On -CURRENT 2D looks 
fine, but I haven't been able to get DRI working.  Using XFree86-4.3.99.5 
snapshot installed over FreeBSD XFree86-4 meta-port.

Jud
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setting uid,gid on samba share

[Jon Reynolds]

I used to be able to issue the command:
mount -t smbfs -o username=jonr,password=password,uid=jon,gid=jon
//server/share /mnt/shared

This has always worked before but now on freebsd4.8 the -o is no longer
an option. How can I connect and set the uid,gid? I have read the
mount_smbfs man page and see an -O option but I don't understand how to
make it do what I want.

Can someone help me finger this out?

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Re: REPLY: Please Confirm Lockergnome's Tech Specialist Subscription

[Frank Tegtmeyer]

Matt Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> it would be trivial to write an auto "subscribe, post spam, unsubscribe" bot

Not for the average person that likes to get the list some
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Re: List Administration, was: Re: your mail

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Re: PPPoE load balancing

[Raphaël Marmier]

This is quite recent, but get a look at OpenBSD 3.3 (www.openbsd.org) 
and its packet filter, pf 
(ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/doc/pf-faq.pdf). It does support 
bundling unreleated and uncooperative links together. With some 
scripting, you should even be able to track when a link goes down and 
reload the rules without it, giving you some sort of failure tolerance.

Of course, it is a bit of a hack, but as you need for only 6 monthes...

Raphael

Le Mardi, 3 juin 2003, à 05:03 Europe/Zurich, lukek a écrit :

Hello,
Let me apologise firstly if this is a topic which has been thrashed to 
death
on this list.  I need some advice before I get myself into a hole that 
is
very deep, dark and lonely.

I need to add an additional DSL line to my exisiting network to keep 
up with
the expanding bandwidth requirements of the users. In a situation like 
this
my first reaction would be to get some fibre into the office and take 
it
from there but the building we are currently in is unsuitable for 
fibre (
according to the provider ) therefore for the interim I have no choice 
but
to get additional DSL circuits.

My question is how difficult is it to get one FBSD router to reliably 
manage
multiple DSL circuits. These circuits would have static IP addresses
probably /28 on the outside and there are two distinct networks 
internally.
An ethernet segment and a wireless segment.

I am using IPFilter and IPNat to provide simple NAT functions and 
simple
firewalling functions. If I create further external links ie tun0 and 
tun1
will this create problems for NAT ? I am contemplating separating the 
two
internal networks so that the ethernet segment gets routed to tun0 and
wireless to tun1. Would I need two instances of IPNat and IPFilter or 
can I
wrap all the rules into one instance of these tools ?

Is there a smarter way to do this ?

Any advice is appreciated as I suspect that this is not a trivial 
thing to
accomplish reliably and given no other real options at this time I 
have to
come up with a solution that is reliable. Ideally it would be great to 
be
able to get load balancing and failover working but I won't push my 
luck.

Regards,

LukeK

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SU not working on fresh CVSUP

[Mike Loiterman]

 
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This is an issue for current but since I can't send to the current
mailing list from this machine I figured I'd try here first:

Just cvsup'd to current a few hours ago.  Built and installed world
and kernel without any problems.  Now I get this error when I try to
su :

Jun  3 01:45:22 enola su: in openpam_load_module(): no pam_wheel.so
found
Bus error (core dumped)
enola# Jun  3 01:45:22 enola kernel: pid 507 (su), uid 0: exited on
signal 10 (c
ore dumped)

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Re: Upgrading a live server with rdist

[Konrad Heuer]

On Mon, 2 Jun 2003, Jamie wrote:

>I am trying to upgrade a running production server with rdist, but some
> of the files will not update. I am getting messages like:
>
>
> rdist: server.foo.net:/bin/rcp: Operation not permitted
> updating: /kernel
> rdist: server.foo.net:/kernel: Operation not permitted
> updating: /sbin/init
> rdist: server.foo.net:/sbin/init: Operation not permitted
>
>
>
>It appears rdist will not allow updates on processes that are loaded
> and running in memory. Is there any way to accomplish this with rdist or
> one of it's cousins?

As far as I see there is little chance to do this without carefully
restarting all processes, e.g. by shutting down into single user mode and
returning to multi user mode.

If you replace program files and shared libraries used by currently
running processes, this will cause the corresponding processes to be
aborted abnormally in case of page fault requiring a page-in from the
program files or shared libraries.

>We have one test machine which is identical to all our production
> servers new patches are compiled into and are then tested. If it tests
> okay, we'd like to be able to simply run rdist from there out to our other
> production systems.
>
>We've also considered sharing the /usr/src/ directory after the tests
> pass, and then recompiling the binaries on the remote systems, but to do
> that you need to run mergemaster on each machine and bring it into single
> user mode. We'd like to avoid that downtime, iff possible.

One possibility to minimize downtime would be to have two /usr
filesystems, which get mounted alternately on the directory /usr.

You could update the non-active filesystem (let's say, mounted on
/alt_usr) by rdist, automatically edit /etc/fstab to get this filesystem
mounted on /usr after a reboot, and reboot the system.

Regards
Konrad

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adsl pci cards

[Gianmarco Giovannelli]

Hi,
I'd like to make an adsl router using an epia mb with an adsl pci card (if 
possible:-).

I have found the sangoma card:
http://www.sangoma.com/adsl.htm
Just a few questions:
1) Will they work here in Europe (Italy) ?
2) What type of software have I to use with it ? I see the card arrive with 
his soft "WANPIPE".
May it use the standard BSD commands and programs to use/manage it (like 
mpd/ppp/ipfw and so on ... ) ?

3) Is there any other alternative to this card ?
Also something cheaper if possible :-) In Italy any small adsl router cost 
less than this card ...

Any other relevant infos on the subj is welcome :-)





Best Regards,
Gianmarco Giovannelli ,  "Unix expert since yesterday"
http://www.gufi.org/~gmarco
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Re: Listing installed ports without any ports dependent on it

[parv]

in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
wrote Adam thusly...
>
> On Mon, 2003-06-02 at 23:53, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:
> 
> > It's not Python, but this script should work.
> >
> > #!/bin/sh
> >
> > for i in `pkg_info | cut -f1 -d ' '`; do
> >if [ -z "`pkg_info -qR ${i}`" ]; then
> >   echo ${i}
> >fi
> > done
> 
> Excellent! This does exactly what I was after! 

Above program gives the exact result as the one i posted, except one
non essential "pkgdb" line.  What did i miss?


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Can you copy freebsd from one of my present machine and load it toa new

[DanB]

Can you copy freebsd and its configuration from one of my present
machine and load it to a new machine so I can do some repairs on it.
Maybe copy to a CDR and boot from that.

Dan

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Re: 4.8-STABLE /dev/null issue

[Chuck Swiger]

Scott Kupferschmidt wrote:
[ ... ]
He runs a cron script (on both servers) and redirects the output to
/dev/null, and everytime he does it on the 4.8-STABLE the permissions
change from crw-rw-rw- to crw-r--r-- which is rather odd.  Anytime I 'echo
blah >/dev/null' just in a regular shell, nothing goes wrong, only when in
cron.
I'd seen that happen once or twice recently; I thought maybe mergemaster had 
done it.  It's absolutely worth filing a pr about this, as more than a few 
things break (like sendmail, as you saw) if they can't talk to /dev/null.

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duplicate email

[Scott Kupferschmidt]

Sorry if I sent out a duplicate email, pine hung on me and didn't know if
it sent..

Sincerely,

Scott Kupferschmidt
ISPrime, Inc.
866.502.4678 ext. 3
AIM: Scott ISPrime - ICQ: 174337249

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4.8-STABLE /dev/null issue

[Scott Kupferschmidt]

Hello,

This may have been previously discussed, but I have yet to find a solution
yet so looking to find some guidance here.

I have a customer who has 2 servers, one is 4.8-RC and the other is
4.8-STABLE.  No problems have been noted on his server with 4.8-RC,
however the one running 4.8-STABLE seems to have some random /dev/null
permission changes and I'm stumped.

He runs a cron script (on both servers) and redirects the output to
/dev/null, and everytime he does it on the 4.8-STABLE the permissions
change from crw-rw-rw- to crw-r--r-- which is rather odd.  Anytime I 'echo
blah >/dev/null' just in a regular shell, nothing goes wrong, only when in
cron.

Errors reported in /var/log/maillog are something like this:

Jun  2 21:06:56 diamond sm-msp-queue[97747]: h5316uZO097747: disconnect:
open("/dev/null") failed: Permission denied

Also, cron reports similar:

Subject: Cron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> echo blah >/dev/null
X-Cron-Env: 
X-Cron-Env: 
X-Cron-Env: 
X-Cron-Env: 
X-Cron-Env: 

cannot create /dev/null: permission denied

I cvsup'd, rebuilt the world, mergemaster'd the system to the latest and
still experience issues.  Was there a change between 4.8-RC and 4.8-STABLE
that is causing this that I am just overlooking here?

Any advice is greatly appreciated, as of right now I am banging my head.

Sincerely,

Scott Kupferschmidt
ISPrime, Inc.
866.502.4678 ext. 3
AIM: Scott ISPrime - ICQ: 174337249

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4.8-STABLE /dev/null issue

[Scott Kupferschmidt]

Hello,

This may have been previously discussed, but I have yet to find a solution
yet so looking to find some guidance here.

I have a customer who has 2 servers, one is 4.8-RC and the other is
4.8-STABLE.  No problems have been noted on his server with 4.8-RC,
however the one running 4.8-STABLE seems to have some random /dev/null
permission changes and I'm stumped.

He runs a cron script (on both servers) and redirects the output to
/dev/null, and everytime he does it on the 4.8-STABLE the permissions
change from crw-rw-rw- to crw-r--r-- which is rather odd.  Anytime I 'echo
blah >/dev/null' just in a regular shell, nothing goes wrong, only when in
cron.

Errors reported in /var/log/maillog are something like this:

Jun  2 21:06:56 diamond sm-msp-queue[97747]: h5316uZO097747: disconnect:
open("/dev/null") failed: Permission denied

Also, cron reports similar:

Subject: Cron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> echo blah >/dev/null
X-Cron-Env: 
X-Cron-Env: 
X-Cron-Env: 
X-Cron-Env: 
X-Cron-Env: 

cannot create /dev/null: permission denied

I cvsup'd, rebuilt the world, mergemaster'd the system to the latest and
still experience issues.  Was there a change between 4.8-RC and 4.8-STABLE
that is causing this that I am just overlooking here?

Any advice is greatly appreciated, as of right now I am banging my head.

Sincerely,

Scott Kupferschmidt
ISPrime, Inc.
866.502.4678 ext. 3
AIM: Scott ISPrime - ICQ: 174337249

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Re: Listing installed ports without any ports dependent on it

[Adam]

On Mon, 2003-06-02 at 23:53, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:

> It's not Python, but this script should work.
>
> #!/bin/sh
>
> for i in `pkg_info | cut -f1 -d ' '`; do
>if [ -z "`pkg_info -qR ${i}`" ]; then
>   echo ${i}
>fi
> done

Excellent! This does exactly what I was after! 

Here's how I run it:
echo Installed before:
pkg_info |wc -l
sleep 3
/home/eskimo/bin/pkg_nodeps.sh |less
echo Installed after:
pkg_info |wc -l

The basic idea is to thumb through the list and spot the ports that are
no longer needed, then copy & paste the port name to a seperate terminal
and pkg_delete it. This is a great way to efficiently remove unneeded
ports.

Thanks Marcus!

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Two questions about Screensavers and KDE

[Dragoncrest]

	Ok, these will probubly seem stupid, but I'm gonna ask them anyways.

1.  Where's a good site to download lots of good quality screensavers for KDE?
2.  How the heck do you install Screen Savers into KDE?
	I've installed one and it said that it installed when I did the make 
install, but I can't find it anywhere in my KDE menu.  Any comments or 
ideas would be gratefully welcome.  Thanks.

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Re: Listing installed ports without any ports dependent on it

[Joe Marcus Clarke]

On Mon, 2003-06-02 at 23:29, Adam wrote:
> On Mon, 2003-06-02 at 20:16, parv wrote:
> > What you need is to check if '+REQUIRED_BY' file exists.  (For finer
> > control, also check if it is empty or not.)  If file does not exist
> > (or is empty), then there is no registered dependency.
> > 
> >   #!/bin/sh
> >   pkgdb=/var/db/pkg
> > 
> >   for p in $pkgdb/*
> >   do
> > [ -f "$p/+REQUIRED_BY" ] || { echo "$p" | sed -e "s!^$pkgdb/!!" ; }
> >   done
> 
> This almost works, but not quite as elegant as the method I used before.
> I wish like hell I still had a copy of that python script someone on
> this list gave me. That script should be installed as part of the
> portupgrade suite, imo.

It's not Python, but this script should work.

Joe

> 
> Thanks,
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Re: stable vs. release

[Jud]

On Mon, 2 Jun 2003 19:12:33 -0400, Dan Piparo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

What is the real difference in running/compiling Stable src vs. Running 
Freebsd Release version and just continually updating and building from 
the ports?

I have FreeBSD 4.8 Release installed now.  Am I at great risk if I don't 
upgrade to STABLE?
Updating what and building from the ports?  The ports "skeletons" can be 
updated by cvsup-ing; the applications themselves can then be updated by 
portupgrading, deinstalling/reinstalling, pkg_update, etc.  As time goes 
on, however, if you do not update your base system it becomes more and more 
likely that some port will expect a newer version of some base system file 
than you have.

Stable contains improvements, including security improvements, made since 
release that have undergone sufficient testing (often in the -current 
branch) to be merged into Stable.  Because Stable accumulates changes from 
a Release build known to work, there is of course a greater chance (though 
not terribly great, thanks to the committers and core team) that something 
will be broken.  There is also a more-stable-than-stable track, the 
"security branch," which contains only critical and security fixes since 
release.  That would be on a CVS branch tagged RELENG_4_8 if it is 
available.  If you decide to update the base system along with ports, cvsup 
them (base system RELENG_4 or RELENG_4_8, depending on whether you want the 
Stable or Security branch) and go through the "make world" procedure.

Jud
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RE: PPPoE load balancing

[Scott Hiemstra]

Maybe another option:
(BPurchasing a hardware solution; I've never used one personally but I have
(Bheard good things about the Fatpipe Superstream from friends ($3,000 or so).
(BSeveral other companies make the exact same thing just in different forms.
(BIt will allow you to bond multiple dsl/cable whatever and you don't need
(BBGP.  To implement BGP normally you need a pretty beefy router (My feelings
(Bare a cisco 3600 and up).
(B
(BScott
(B
(B
(B
(BScott Hiemstra
(B[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(B
(B
(B-Original Message-
(BFrom: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(B[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Adam Maas
(BSent: Monday, June 02, 2003 11:23 PM
(BTo: lukek; FreeBSD
(BSubject: Re: PPPoE load balancing
(B
(B
(B
(B
(B- Original Message -
(BFrom: "lukek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
(BTo: "FreeBSD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
(BSent: Monday, June 02, 2003 11:03 PM
(BSubject: PPPoE load balancing
(B
(B
(B> Hello,
(B> Let me apologise firstly if this is a topic which has been thrashed to
(Bdeath
(B> on this list.  I need some advice before I get myself into a hole that is
(B> very deep, dark and lonely.
(B>
(B> I need to add an additional DSL line to my exisiting network to keep up
(Bwith
(B> the expanding bandwidth requirements of the users. In a situation like
(Bthis
(B> my first reaction would be to get some fibre into the office and take it
(B> from there but the building we are currently in is unsuitable for fibre (
(B> according to the provider ) therefore for the interim I have no choice but
(B> to get additional DSL circuits.
(B>
(B> My question is how difficult is it to get one FBSD router to reliably
(Bmanage
(B> multiple DSL circuits. These circuits would have static IP addresses
(B> probably /28 on the outside and there are two distinct networks
(Binternally.
(B> An ethernet segment and a wireless segment.
(B>
(B
(BBGP
(B
(B> I am using IPFilter and IPNat to provide simple NAT functions and simple
(B> firewalling functions. If I create further external links ie tun0 and tun1
(B> will this create problems for NAT ? I am contemplating separating the two
(B> internal networks so that the ethernet segment gets routed to tun0 and
(B> wireless to tun1. Would I need two instances of IPNat and IPFilter or can
(BI
(B> wrap all the rules into one instance of these tools ?
(B>
(B> Is there a smarter way to do this ?
(B>
(B
(BA burstable T3 (It's copper)
(B
(B> Any advice is appreciated as I suspect that this is not a trivial thing to
(B> accomplish reliably and given no other real options at this time I have to
(B> come up with a solution that is reliable. Ideally it would be great to be
(B> able to get load balancing and failover working but I won't push my luck.
(B>
(B> Regards,
(B>
(B> LukeK
(B>
(B
(BDSL is not meant for multiple links. Having multiple links and running BGP
(Bwith your provider will work, but likely should use a non-PPPoE DSL
(Bimplementation . Best solution is either multiple T1's and a real router or
(Ba T3 of some sort if you can't get fibre.
(B
(BAdam
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Re: PPPoE load balancing

[lukek]

Thanks for that, you are of course absolutely correct however here in Japan
(Bthe provider of the local loops does not provide T3's and all circuits over
(B128K are fibre. So I am stuck.  This solution only has to hold together for
(Babout 6mths then we move offices and I can get a proper fibre connection but
(Buntil then I need a band aid solution.
(B
(BThanks
(B
(BLK
(B
(B> > Hello,
(B> > Let me apologise firstly if this is a topic which has been thrashed to
(B> death
(B> > on this list.  I need some advice before I get myself into a hole that
(Bis
(B> > very deep, dark and lonely.
(B> >
(B> > I need to add an additional DSL line to my exisiting network to keep up
(B> with
(B> > the expanding bandwidth requirements of the users. In a situation like
(B> this
(B> > my first reaction would be to get some fibre into the office and take it
(B> > from there but the building we are currently in is unsuitable for fibre
(B(
(B> > according to the provider ) therefore for the interim I have no choice
(Bbut
(B> > to get additional DSL circuits.
(B> >
(B> > My question is how difficult is it to get one FBSD router to reliably
(B> manage
(B> > multiple DSL circuits. These circuits would have static IP addresses
(B> > probably /28 on the outside and there are two distinct networks
(B> internally.
(B> > An ethernet segment and a wireless segment.
(B> >
(B>
(B> BGP
(B>
(B> > I am using IPFilter and IPNat to provide simple NAT functions and simple
(B> > firewalling functions. If I create further external links ie tun0 and
(Btun1
(B> > will this create problems for NAT ? I am contemplating separating the
(Btwo
(B> > internal networks so that the ethernet segment gets routed to tun0 and
(B> > wireless to tun1. Would I need two instances of IPNat and IPFilter or
(Bcan
(B> I
(B> > wrap all the rules into one instance of these tools ?
(B> >
(B> > Is there a smarter way to do this ?
(B> >
(B>
(B> A burstable T3 (It's copper)
(B>
(B> > Any advice is appreciated as I suspect that this is not a trivial thing
(Bto
(B> > accomplish reliably and given no other real options at this time I have
(Bto
(B> > come up with a solution that is reliable. Ideally it would be great to
(Bbe
(B> > able to get load balancing and failover working but I won't push my
(Bluck.
(B> >
(B> > Regards,
(B> >
(B> > LukeK
(B> >
(B>
(B> DSL is not meant for multiple links. Having multiple links and running BGP
(B> with your provider will work, but likely should use a non-PPPoE DSL
(B> implementation . Best solution is either multiple T1's and a real router
(Bor
(B> a T3 of some sort if you can't get fibre.
(B>
(B> Adam
(B>
(B>
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Re: Listing installed ports without any ports dependent on it

[Adam]

On Mon, 2003-06-02 at 20:16, parv wrote:
> What you need is to check if '+REQUIRED_BY' file exists.  (For finer
> control, also check if it is empty or not.)  If file does not exist
> (or is empty), then there is no registered dependency.
> 
>   #!/bin/sh
>   pkgdb=/var/db/pkg
> 
>   for p in $pkgdb/*
>   do
> [ -f "$p/+REQUIRED_BY" ] || { echo "$p" | sed -e "s!^$pkgdb/!!" ; }
>   done

This almost works, but not quite as elegant as the method I used before.
I wish like hell I still had a copy of that python script someone on
this list gave me. That script should be installed as part of the
portupgrade suite, imo.

Thanks,
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Re: Listing installed ports without any ports dependent on it

[Adam]

On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 21:26, kitsune wrote:
> cd /var/db/pkg/
> ls

Thanks, but you obviously didn't read my post. 

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Snort Ports Question

[David Markle]

I am having difficulties getting snort compiled with MySQL from the Ports
tree.  I have FreeBSD 5.0 and have used CVS to update my tree, so Snort is
current at 2.0.0.  In the ports directory (/usr/ports/security/snort) I run:

Make -DWITH_MYSQL

.. then ..

make install

All seems OK, finds the mysql client, no specific errors, etc. .

When I try and load snort, (/usr/local/bin/snort -c ..snort.conf ...blah),
my messages file says that snort was NOT compiled with the "with_mysql" 
What am I doing wrong 

Thanks in advance.

David Markle


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Re: PPPoE load balancing

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(B
(B- Original Message -
(BFrom: "lukek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
(BTo: "FreeBSD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
(BSent: Monday, June 02, 2003 11:03 PM
(BSubject: PPPoE load balancing
(B
(B
(B> Hello,
(B> Let me apologise firstly if this is a topic which has been thrashed to
(Bdeath
(B> on this list.  I need some advice before I get myself into a hole that is
(B> very deep, dark and lonely.
(B>
(B> I need to add an additional DSL line to my exisiting network to keep up
(Bwith
(B> the expanding bandwidth requirements of the users. In a situation like
(Bthis
(B> my first reaction would be to get some fibre into the office and take it
(B> from there but the building we are currently in is unsuitable for fibre (
(B> according to the provider ) therefore for the interim I have no choice but
(B> to get additional DSL circuits.
(B>
(B> My question is how difficult is it to get one FBSD router to reliably
(Bmanage
(B> multiple DSL circuits. These circuits would have static IP addresses
(B> probably /28 on the outside and there are two distinct networks
(Binternally.
(B> An ethernet segment and a wireless segment.
(B>
(B
(BBGP
(B
(B> I am using IPFilter and IPNat to provide simple NAT functions and simple
(B> firewalling functions. If I create further external links ie tun0 and tun1
(B> will this create problems for NAT ? I am contemplating separating the two
(B> internal networks so that the ethernet segment gets routed to tun0 and
(B> wireless to tun1. Would I need two instances of IPNat and IPFilter or can
(BI
(B> wrap all the rules into one instance of these tools ?
(B>
(B> Is there a smarter way to do this ?
(B>
(B
(BA burstable T3 (It's copper)
(B
(B> Any advice is appreciated as I suspect that this is not a trivial thing to
(B> accomplish reliably and given no other real options at this time I have to
(B> come up with a solution that is reliable. Ideally it would be great to be
(B> able to get load balancing and failover working but I won't push my luck.
(B>
(B> Regards,
(B>
(B> LukeK
(B>
(B
(BDSL is not meant for multiple links. Having multiple links and running BGP
(Bwith your provider will work, but likely should use a non-PPPoE DSL
(Bimplementation . Best solution is either multiple T1's and a real router or
(Ba T3 of some sort if you can't get fibre.
(B
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PPPoE load balancing

[lukek]

Hello,
(BLet me apologise firstly if this is a topic which has been thrashed to death
(Bon this list.  I need some advice before I get myself into a hole that is
(Bvery deep, dark and lonely.
(B
(BI need to add an additional DSL line to my exisiting network to keep up with
(Bthe expanding bandwidth requirements of the users. In a situation like this
(Bmy first reaction would be to get some fibre into the office and take it
(Bfrom there but the building we are currently in is unsuitable for fibre (
(Baccording to the provider ) therefore for the interim I have no choice but
(Bto get additional DSL circuits.
(B
(BMy question is how difficult is it to get one FBSD router to reliably manage
(Bmultiple DSL circuits. These circuits would have static IP addresses
(Bprobably /28 on the outside and there are two distinct networks internally.
(BAn ethernet segment and a wireless segment.
(B
(BI am using IPFilter and IPNat to provide simple NAT functions and simple
(Bfirewalling functions. If I create further external links ie tun0 and tun1
(Bwill this create problems for NAT ? I am contemplating separating the two
(Binternal networks so that the ethernet segment gets routed to tun0 and
(Bwireless to tun1. Would I need two instances of IPNat and IPFilter or can I
(Bwrap all the rules into one instance of these tools ?
(B
(BIs there a smarter way to do this ?
(B
(BAny advice is appreciated as I suspect that this is not a trivial thing to
(Baccomplish reliably and given no other real options at this time I have to
(Bcome up with a solution that is reliable. Ideally it would be great to be
(Bable to get load balancing and failover working but I won't push my luck.
(B
(BRegards,
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RE: DNS and natd

[Scott Hiemstra]

I've never tried it with natd on freebsd but I have on many routers just
setup a loopback adapter which will allow your hosts which are inside to
loopback into the webserver.  I searched through the docs but I can't seem
to find a specific example.  Perhaps someone here has some experience with
this setup.

-Just as an example, my home web hiemstra.us is actually served by
192.168.1.20 on my LAN.
-I don't have any funny DNS going on to get there.
-My router figures out I actually need to get to 68.165.225.111 and routes
the requests through the loopback
-I get the desired page delivered

I'm not 100% sure this is feasible in freebsd but it should be.

Good luck,
Scott



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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alfonso Romero
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 9:48 PM
To: freebsd-questions
Subject: Re: DNS and natd


Thanks for your reply. I found the "6.1 Creating a mini-DNS system" document
from the Pedantic PPP Primer
(http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/ppp-primer/c831.html#AEN83
3)

Do you think it fits my needs?


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From: "Jack L. Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Derrick Ryalls" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Alfonso Romero'"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'freebsd-questions'"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Chuck Swiger'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 8:07 PM
Subject: RE: DNS and natd


At 05:07 PM 6.2.2003 -0700, Derrick Ryalls wrote:
>> > Alfonso Romero wrote:
>> > > I´m using natd on a FreeBSD 4.8 box as a gateway, so my
>> internal LAN
>> > > can access Internet. I´ve configured a web server, but
>> the local LAN
>> machines
>> > > can´t access the server by it´s domain name. If I setup my FreeBSD
>> gateway to
>> > > also act as a DNS server, are my local LAN machines going
>> to be able
>> > > to access my web server with www.ibacsoft.dynu.com, instead of
>> > > 192.168.0.2?
>> >
>> > 10-bjork# nslookup www.ibacsoft.dynu.com
>> > Name:www.ibacsoft.dynu.com
>> > Address:  200.67.41.134
>> >
>
>I believe you would need to set up a DNS server and configure it to give
>different results depending on the requesting ip.
>For bind, I think the search term is "views".  There was a good
>description of why this is so a while back, but I have
>long since deleted it.  I don't think it will be too hard to set up, but
>I haven't tried myself yet.  Hope this helps.
>
>-Derrick
>

Yes, it is an internal DNS setup and I believe "views" requires BIND9. With
BIND8+, you need two DNS setups: 1 for external and 1 for internal
(LAN).

Best regards,
Jack L. Stone,
Administrator

SageOne Net
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Re: DNS and natd

[Alfonso Romero]

Thanks for your reply. I found the "6.1 Creating a mini-DNS system" document
from the Pedantic PPP Primer
(http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/ppp-primer/c831.html#AEN83
3)

Do you think it fits my needs?


- Original Message -
From: "Jack L. Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Derrick Ryalls" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Alfonso Romero'"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'freebsd-questions'"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Chuck Swiger'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 8:07 PM
Subject: RE: DNS and natd


At 05:07 PM 6.2.2003 -0700, Derrick Ryalls wrote:
>> > Alfonso Romero wrote:
>> > > I´m using natd on a FreeBSD 4.8 box as a gateway, so my
>> internal LAN
>> > > can access Internet. I´ve configured a web server, but
>> the local LAN
>> machines
>> > > can´t access the server by it´s domain name. If I setup my FreeBSD
>> gateway to
>> > > also act as a DNS server, are my local LAN machines going
>> to be able
>> > > to access my web server with www.ibacsoft.dynu.com, instead of
>> > > 192.168.0.2?
>> >
>> > 10-bjork# nslookup www.ibacsoft.dynu.com
>> > Name:www.ibacsoft.dynu.com
>> > Address:  200.67.41.134
>> >
>
>I believe you would need to set up a DNS server and configure it to give
>different results depending on the requesting ip.
>For bind, I think the search term is "views".  There was a good
>description of why this is so a while back, but I have
>long since deleted it.  I don't think it will be too hard to set up, but
>I haven't tried myself yet.  Hope this helps.
>
>-Derrick
>

Yes, it is an internal DNS setup and I believe "views" requires BIND9. With
BIND8+, you need two DNS setups: 1 for external and 1 for internal
(LAN).

Best regards,
Jack L. Stone,
Administrator

SageOne Net
http://www.sage-one.net
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Re: Pressing key changes resolution

[Warren Block]

On Sun, 1 Jun 2003, Joshua Oreman wrote:

> On Sun, Jun 01, 2003 at 08:41:53PM -0500 or thereabouts, Thomas Kernes seemed to 
> write:
> > This is really odd, I hope someone can help me here:
> >
> > I just upgraded (using the ports) to Gnome 2.2.  Now when I press a key on
> > the keyboard, the display resolution changes, but no echo.  Did I mess up
> > the keyboard map or something?  I have had no luck finding a remedy.
>
> Search the archives - this was discussed just last week.
> (Basically, uninstall XFree86 and reinstall XFree86-libraries, then XFree86.)

Too severe!  As per Edward Wei's post on May 30, just make deinstall
XFree86-4-libraries and then make install on it again.  This cured the
problem for me.

-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
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RE: DNS and natd

[Jack L. Stone]

At 05:07 PM 6.2.2003 -0700, Derrick Ryalls wrote:
>> > Alfonso Romero wrote:
>> > > I´m using natd on a FreeBSD 4.8 box as a gateway, so my 
>> internal LAN 
>> > > can access Internet. I´ve configured a web server, but 
>> the local LAN
>> machines
>> > > can´t access the server by it´s domain name. If I setup my FreeBSD
>> gateway to
>> > > also act as a DNS server, are my local LAN machines going 
>> to be able 
>> > > to access my web server with www.ibacsoft.dynu.com, instead of 
>> > > 192.168.0.2?
>> >
>> > 10-bjork# nslookup www.ibacsoft.dynu.com
>> > Name:www.ibacsoft.dynu.com
>> > Address:  200.67.41.134
>> >
>
>I believe you would need to set up a DNS server and configure it to give
>different results depending on the requesting ip.
>For bind, I think the search term is "views".  There was a good
>description of why this is so a while back, but I have 
>long since deleted it.  I don't think it will be too hard to set up, but
>I haven't tried myself yet.  Hope this helps.
>
>-Derrick
>

Yes, it is an internal DNS setup and I believe "views" requires BIND9. With
BIND8+, you need two DNS setups: 1 for external and 1 for internal
(LAN).

Best regards,
Jack L. Stone,
Administrator

SageOne Net
http://www.sage-one.net
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RE: bandwidth monitor

[Sean Countryman]

MRTG is in the ports collection.  It uses SNMP to build bandwidth graphs
and statistics.  


Sean J Countryman
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: bandwidth monitor

i'll be honest and say i haven't really investigated too much...

i'm running snmpd and using cricket to generate pretty bandwidth graphs.

however I'm looking for something a bit more precise that will give me a
bandwidth breakdown in/out per day.

i currently have some count rules

00040 count ip from any to any out xmit dc0
00045 count ip from any to any in recv dc0

which i check and zero every hour, and then analyse this data later.
however i'm curious if there's something i can use to double check my
results..

cheers,

ajt.


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Re: Vinum performance

[Greg 'groggy' Lehey]

On Monday,  2 June 2003 at 17:48:23 -0700, Jaye Mathisen wrote:
> On Fri, May 30, 2003 at 07:48:45PM +0930, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
>> On Friday, 30 May 2003 at 11:16:06 +0200, Per olof Ljungmark wrote:
>>> Using Vinum on 4.7-RELEASE-p10, I wonder what can be done to optimize
>>> performance. So far I am not impressed but perhaps I did not configure
>>> Vinum optimal, grateful for any hints thanks.
>>
>> You haven't said what your problem is.  It definitely depends on your
>> application (which may simply be the way you measure it).
>>
>> FWIW, the stripe size should be a multiple of the file system block
>> size.  Yes, the man pages don't necessarily say that, but it's also
>> not so important.
>
> Hmmm, I thought the consensus was to use a weird stripe size to avoid
> getting all the inode/superblock stuff on 1 disk.

Correct, for some definition of "weird".

> I seem to recall somebody saying somethingabout using stripe sizes
> like 273k and such...

Yes, I once said that.  Then it occurred to me that many transfers are
complete file system blocks.  If you have a stripe size which isn't a
multiple of the block size, you'll end up with more transfers split
across two devices, which has a negative effect on performance.

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Re: Vinum performance

[Jaye Mathisen]

Hmmm, I thought the consensus was to use a weird stripe size to avoid
getting all the inode/superblock stuff on 1 disk.

I seem to recall somebody saying somethingabout using stripe sizes
like 273k and such...

On Fri, May 30, 2003 at 07:48:45PM +0930, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
> On Friday, 30 May 2003 at 11:16:06 +0200, Per olof Ljungmark wrote:
> > Using Vinum on 4.7-RELEASE-p10, I wonder what can be done to optimize
> > performance. So far I am not impressed but perhaps I did not configure
> > Vinum optimal, grateful for any hints thanks.
> 
> You haven't said what your problem is.  It definitely depends on your
> application (which may simply be the way you measure it).
> 
> FWIW, the stripe size should be a multiple of the file system block
> size.  Yes, the man pages don't necessarily say that, but it's also
> not so important.
> 
> Greg
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bandwidth monitor

[Andrew Thomson]

i'll be honest and say i haven't really investigated too much...

i'm running snmpd and using cricket to generate pretty bandwidth graphs.

however I'm looking for something a bit more precise that will give me a
bandwidth breakdown in/out per day.

i currently have some count rules

00040 count ip from any to any out xmit dc0
00045 count ip from any to any in recv dc0

which i check and zero every hour, and then analyse this data later.
however i'm curious if there's something i can use to double check my
results..

cheers,

ajt.


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Sendmail catch-all alias doesnt' work anymore?

[questions]

I'm trying to figure out why my sendmail catch-all alias does not work.  i
have:

@mydomainname.com   myusername

as the last line in my /etc/mail/virtusertable and I did rebuild the
virtusertable db by running:

makemap -r /etc/mail/virtusertable < /etc/mail/virtusertable

I try to send a test message to some random email address that doesn't
exist and it gets bounced by my mail server saying user doesn't exist.

I tried testing the mapping out by running "sendmail -bt" and doing this:

---
# sendmail -bt
ADDRESS TEST MODE (ruleset 3 NOT automatically invoked)
Enter  
> /map virtuser [EMAIL PROTECTED]
map_lookup: virtuser ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) no match (0)
---
(note: i'm replacing my real domain name with "mydomainname.com" for this
email).

If I add the [EMAIL PROTECTED] to virtusertable and rebuild the
db emails and mapping work fine.

Any tips on how to properly diagnose this?
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Re: Hardware supported?

[Vulpes Velox]

I don't know about the sun, but the video card should work nicely. It should be 
supported by the drm in the kernel and X should play nicely with it.

On Tue, 3 Jun 2003 01:13:27 +0200
"Sandor \"fisty\" Renz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
> my name is Sandor Renz!
> ive been using freebsd for some time on a pc now!and now i would like to make it as 
> my main os on my main pc, but i dont know if my video card is supported?i have a Ati 
> radeon 9700pro is this card supported???
> another questien i have a SunBlade 100 will the ultrasparc version of FreeBSD work 
> on my workstation?
> thx in advantage for ur respond:D
> best regards Sandor Renz
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Re: Listing installed ports without any ports dependent on it

[kitsune]

cd /var/db/pkg/
ls

On 02 Jun 2003 17:52:43 -0400
Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> What I need to do is this:
> 
> For each installed port that has NO other installed ports dependent on
> it, output the full name of the port
> 
> In other words, I want a script to generate the list of ports that can
> be deinstalled without forcing (-f).
> 
> A few months ago a guy posted a python script to this mailing list that
> did this, but I've since lost the script and it's too long ago for any
> of the online archives.
> 
> If you're the nice guy that shared this script before, would you mind
> sharing it again? Or, does someone else have a script to do this? I
> remember it requiring a bit of cleverness to get it to work nicely.
> 
> Thanks,
> -- 
> Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Re: Listing installed ports without any ports dependent on it

[parv]

in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, wrote Adam thusly...
>
> For each installed port that has NO other installed ports
> dependent on it, output the full name of the port
> 
> In other words, I want a script to generate the list of ports that
> can be deinstalled without forcing (-f).

What you need is to check if '+REQUIRED_BY' file exists.  (For finer
control, also check if it is empty or not.)  If file does not exist
(or is empty), then there is no registered dependency.

  #!/bin/sh
  pkgdb=/var/db/pkg

  for p in $pkgdb/*
  do
[ -f "$p/+REQUIRED_BY" ] || { echo "$p" | sed -e "s!^$pkgdb/!!" ; }
  done


  - Parv

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RE: DNS and natd

[Derrick Ryalls]

> > Alfonso Romero wrote:
> > > I´m using natd on a FreeBSD 4.8 box as a gateway, so my 
> internal LAN 
> > > can access Internet. I´ve configured a web server, but 
> the local LAN
> machines
> > > can´t access the server by it´s domain name. If I setup my FreeBSD
> gateway to
> > > also act as a DNS server, are my local LAN machines going 
> to be able 
> > > to access my web server with www.ibacsoft.dynu.com, instead of 
> > > 192.168.0.2?
> >
> > 10-bjork# nslookup www.ibacsoft.dynu.com
> > Name:www.ibacsoft.dynu.com
> > Address:  200.67.41.134
> >

I believe you would need to set up a DNS server and configure it to give
different results depending on the requesting ip.
For bind, I think the search term is "views".  There was a good
description of why this is so a while back, but I have 
long since deleted it.  I don't think it will be too hard to set up, but
I haven't tried myself yet.  Hope this helps.

-Derrick


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Re: update /stand? (handbook 21.4.12)

[Jon Noack]

> I believe it has been answered (no line-wrapping intended):
>
> http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=1782165+0+archive/2003/freebsd-current/20030601.freebsd-current>

Sorry about that -- I did search the archives but those didn't come up.

Thanks for the answers!
Jon
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Re: Necessary to Reconfigure New XFree86 If No Changes?

[Bob Perry]

Matthew Seaman wrote:

On Sun, Jun 01, 2003 at 05:40:30PM -0400, Bob Perry wrote:
 

A while ago, I deinstalled XFree86-4.X and installed XFree86 3.X in 
error.  Not sure of the version number of the original 4.X package, but 
I'm currently running FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE and I installed XFree86-4.X 
when I installed the operating system.  When I discovered the error, I 
deinstalled the 3.X version (before configuring it) and then installed 
the most recent XFree86-4.3.0,1.  I ran startx (without configuring 
anything) and everything seemed fine.
   

Yes --- the XF86Config file you have now would have been automatically
generated when you did the original system installation.  So long as
you haven't changed your hardware you won't need to regenerate that
file as you update to more recent versions of XFree86-4.x
 

You've just answered  my prayers.  I wanted to believe this but couldn't
readily locate anything to confirm.
Today, I installed a new mouse (two button w/wheel) but the wheel wasn't 
functioning.  Someone had earlier requested help with a similar problem 
and they were advised to edit their /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file.  I don't 
have a XF86Config-4 file, just a XF86Config file.  I've made more than 
my share of bone-head moves with FreeBSD and I'm wondering now if should 
have configured XFree86-4.3.0,1.  Is there an obvious way to tell?
   

Take a look at the XF86Config(5) man page.  There are a large number
of variations on the config file name and a whole list of different
places in the filesystem that X will search for it's configuration
file.  In short, it doesn't matter if the file is called XF86Config-4
or just plain XF86Config -- add the suggested edits to whichever one
of those two you have.
If X is working at all and you have a screen resolution and colour
depth that suits you, then your XF86Config file needs no alteration.
Take a look at /var/log/XFree.0.log -- it's fairly long, but the
interesting point is the marker at the beginning of each line showing
where each setting comes from.  X will try and probe your hardware to
discover as much information about your system as it can, so in a
sense the less you have to explicitly tell it in the XF86Config file
the better.
I just did take the opportunity to review this file but was confused at 
times.
It is obvious, however that X is doing much of the work for you.

 Unfortunately one of the things that X can't detect
entirely reliably is the layout of buttons, wheels etc. on the mouse.
I did find a website referenced in this section that explained in great 
detail
how to configure my mouse:

http://www.xfree86.org/current/mouse.html


Thanks so much for your help.

Bob Perry

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Re: In need of a VPN Client

[Chris]

On Monday 02 June 2003 02:27 am, Mikael Lönnqvist wrote:
> Hi Chris,
> This may not help you, but anyway - i know there was
> A Cisco Linux VPN Client (v3.8 last I checked..) avaliable
> For download fr. Cisco. Think it was multipurpose client for accessing
> Pix, the Cisco Concentrators and Routers. I don't know if that client is
> Working on a freebsd box though...
> Good Luck!
> /Mikael

Thanks for taking the time to answer - I thought I might try that however, it 
seems Cisco does not offer a binary of it. It seems (at least the copy I had) 
relied on a Linux kernel that of course I could not provide.

If anyone else has an idea, or an alternate way of me doing this - I am open 
to all. 

TIA

Chris


>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: den 1 juni 2003 17:59
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: In need of a VPN Client
>
>
> Hiya folks -
>
>   Is there a clinet I can use to allow my 4.8 box to VPN into a Cisco PIX
> 515 to allow me access to a windows network?
>
>   I have the Cisco VPN client for Windows, but I have all but stopped using
> Windows. And this dang VPN issue is stopping me from removing Windows here
> at home all togather.
>
>   Thanks in advance.

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Hardware supported?

[Sandor \"fisty\" Renz]

Hi,
my name is Sandor Renz!
ive been using freebsd for some time on a pc now!and now i would like to make it as my 
main os on my main pc, but i dont know if my video card is supported?i have a Ati 
radeon 9700pro is this card supported???
another questien i have a SunBlade 100 will the ultrasparc version of FreeBSD work on 
my workstation?
thx in advantage for ur respond:D
best regards Sandor Renz
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Re: DNS and natd

[Alfonso Romero]

This is the result of traceroute:

traceroute to 200.67.41.134 (200.67.41.134), 64 hops max, 44 byte packets
 1  dsl-200-67-41-134.prodigy.net.mx (200.67.41.134)  0.844 ms  0.649 ms
0.570 ms

My web server is on another machine, at 192.168.0.2, and the natd is running
on 192.168.0.1.

Is there any flag on natd that solves this issue?

Alfonso

- Original Message -
From: "Chuck Swiger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "freebsd-questions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 3:24 PM
Subject: Re: DNS and natd


> Alfonso Romero wrote:
> > I´m using natd on a FreeBSD 4.8 box as a gateway, so my internal LAN can
> > access Internet. I´ve configured a web server, but the local LAN
machines
> > can´t access the server by it´s domain name. If I setup my FreeBSD
gateway to
> > also act as a DNS server, are my local LAN machines going to be able to
> > access my web server with www.ibacsoft.dynu.com, instead of 192.168.0.2?
>
> 10-bjork# nslookup www.ibacsoft.dynu.com
> Name:www.ibacsoft.dynu.com
> Address:  200.67.41.134
>
> What happens when you do a "traceroute 200.67.41.134" from an internal
> machine...does it get to the web server as you expect?
>
> If the webserver is the same system as the NAT box, you'll have to add
that IP
> to the natd flags and maybe apache's config file, I believe...
>
> -Chuck
>
>
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stable vs. release

[Dan Piparo]

What is the real difference in running/compiling Stable src vs. Running 
Freebsd Release version and just continually updating and building from the 
 ports?

I have FreeBSD 4.8 Release installed now.  Am I at great risk if I don't upgrade to 
STABLE?



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FBSD 4.8, SecurID VPN to FW-1

[Tommy Forrest - KE4PYM]

Howdy all

Is it possible to setup a VPN to a FW-1 firewall that requires SecurID
authentication?  If so, where might I find documenation on it?  I've
read a bit about being able to use RADIUS, but that is out of the
question.

I've also read the VPN using FreeBSD doc over at SANS but it really
does not talk about the authentication portion of it that Im going to
have to jump through.

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Re: probing devices

[E. Clay Price]

Right...the last statement on the console says

"DEBUG: Add mapping for /dev/cuaa0 to s10" Huh?

On Mon, 2003-06-02 at 18:39, Josh Paetzel wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 06:17:31PM -0400, E. Clay Price wrote:
> > I am trying to install BSD 5 on a Intel P3-450 machine. After booting
> > from cd, there is a screen that says "Probing devices, please wait (this
> > can take a while).  How long is "a while"??? It has been probing for
> > about 4 hours. Any suggestions?
> > 
> 
> You hvae a hung machine there, that probe should take a minute or two there.  
> I can't remember if you can press ALT-F2 at this point in the install to see 
> the debug console, but if you can that might give you some indication of what 
> the problem is.  Hope this helps some.
> 
> Josh
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Re: Loading the system from a nonstandard (not s1a) partition?

[Andy Farkas]

On Mon, 2 Jun 2003, Chris Ptacek wrote:

> I am wondering if it is possible to load the system from a non-standard (not
> s1a) partition.  I am working on a system that has an existing disk layout
> with a s1g partition that I would like to turn into a recovery/backup
> partition (in case of corruption).  I have created a small base system on
> the partition (tar up an existing minimum install, plus tools), but am
> unable to boot from it by selecting the s1g partition from the boot loader
> prompt.  I wanted to know if this is possible, if so what steps do I need to
> take to make the partition bootable.

Take a look at `man loader` - there are lots of knobs for tweaking root
things.

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Re: probing devices

[Josh Paetzel]

On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 06:17:31PM -0400, E. Clay Price wrote:
> I am trying to install BSD 5 on a Intel P3-450 machine. After booting
> from cd, there is a screen that says "Probing devices, please wait (this
> can take a while).  How long is "a while"??? It has been probing for
> about 4 hours. Any suggestions?
> 

You hvae a hung machine there, that probe should take a minute or two there.  
I can't remember if you can press ALT-F2 at this point in the install to see 
the debug console, but if you can that might give you some indication of what 
the problem is.  Hope this helps some.

Josh

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Re: Is portsdb -U broken again?

[Kris Kennaway]

On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 02:47:12PM +0700, Roger Merritt wrote:
> Is 'portsdb -U' broken again, or is my machine getting ready to give up the 
> ghost? For the last month or so, it seems that any time I try to do 
> 'portsdb -U' my machine runs about forty minutes to an hour, reports a 
> couple of errors (telling me "" does not exist and the packing list is 
> incomplete), and then reboots with "Signal 12, Page Fault in Kernel Mode 
> (page not found)".
> 
> The same thing happens when I try to run 'make index', but I can run 
> 'portsdb -u' and 'pkgdb -F' ok.

This is likely to be hardware failure on your machine.  INDEX is
building correctly with a clean ports collection and working hardware.

Kris


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Re: Graphical ftp for KDE/Xwindows?

[Adam]

On Mon, 2003-06-02 at 18:31, Josh Paetzel wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 01, 2003 at 06:30:49PM -0400, Dragoncrest wrote:
> > HI all.  Just curious if anyone knew of a good quality graphical FTP 
> > client for KDE and/or Xwindows?  I'm running KDE3.1 on the latest version 
> > of X and I was just curious.
> > 
> 
> Check out kbear.  I find it a bit overkill but you might like it.  

I'd have to recommend gFTP for a GUI client. But lftp is still the king
of them all (if you MUST use FTP).

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Re: Complicated routing/SSH-FTP tunneling problem

[Daniela]

On Monday 02 June 2003 21:00, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
> Daniela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > On Sunday 01 June 2003 23:51, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
> > > Daniela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > > I have the following problem:
> > > >
> > > > I'm running a FreeBSD SSH server.
> > > > Some clients can't connect to it. They are on a local network,
> > > > connected to the internet through another server. This second server
> > > > used to allow SSH login, and users could then connect to my server
> > > > from the second server.
> > > >
> > > > On the second server, SSH login isn't allowed any more. It won't
> > > > route any requests to the outside, except for mail. The FTP port is
> > > > open, however. I heard it is possible to create a tunnel over FTP, so
> > > > the clients could still get to my server.
> > > >
> > > > How could we do this (if it is possible)? Are there other ways?
> > >
> > > You need some kind of cooperation from the other server.
> > > It sounds like you're trying to get around security precautions of the
> > > other server, but if that's not the case, you ought to work this out
> > > with the administrator of the other server.
> >
> > This is not possible, the admin won't let them out.
> > This is because of high loads on the network. He doesn't care if only a
> > few people connect out.
> >
> > > You can't create an IP tunnel over an FTP server; at least, not using
> > > any FTP server software I know well...
> >
> > The clients run Linux. Isn't it possible to get around this by routing
> > their reqests? They would only need to set the default gateway.
>
> I may be misunderstanding you here, but I think that you're trying to
> make an ssh connection into a system that isn't running sshd at all.

Both servers are running sshd. The other one allows only root login, however.

> That won't work, obviously.  You *can* run sshd on the ftp port if you
> want, but you still have to run it.

That would be the solution. They can go out on the FTP port. I could just 
redirect port 21 to 22 with NAT, and move my FTP server to, say, port 2100.

Thanks for your help.

Daniela


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Re: Graphical ftp for KDE/Xwindows?

[Josh Paetzel]

On Sun, Jun 01, 2003 at 06:30:49PM -0400, Dragoncrest wrote:
>   HI all.  Just curious if anyone knew of a good quality graphical FTP 
> client for KDE and/or Xwindows?  I'm running KDE3.1 on the latest version 
> of X and I was just curious.
> 

Check out kbear.  I find it a bit overkill but you might like it.  

Josh

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Graphical ftp for KDE/Xwindows?

[Dragoncrest]

	HI all.  Just curious if anyone knew of a good quality graphical FTP 
client for KDE and/or Xwindows?  I'm running KDE3.1 on the latest version 
of X and I was just curious.

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probing devices

[E. Clay Price]

I am trying to install BSD 5 on a Intel P3-450 machine. After booting
from cd, there is a screen that says "Probing devices, please wait (this
can take a while).  How long is "a while"??? It has been probing for
about 4 hours. Any suggestions?

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Listing installed ports without any ports dependent on it

[Adam]

What I need to do is this:

For each installed port that has NO other installed ports dependent on
it, output the full name of the port

In other words, I want a script to generate the list of ports that can
be deinstalled without forcing (-f).

A few months ago a guy posted a python script to this mailing list that
did this, but I've since lost the script and it's too long ago for any
of the online archives.

If you're the nice guy that shared this script before, would you mind
sharing it again? Or, does someone else have a script to do this? I
remember it requiring a bit of cleverness to get it to work nicely.

Thanks,
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Loading the system from a nonstandard (not s1a) partition?

[Chris Ptacek]

I am wondering if it is possible to load the system from a non-standard (not
s1a) partition.  I am working on a system that has an existing disk layout
with a s1g partition that I would like to turn into a recovery/backup
partition (in case of corruption).  I have created a small base system on
the partition (tar up an existing minimum install, plus tools), but am
unable to boot from it by selecting the s1g partition from the boot loader
prompt.  I wanted to know if this is possible, if so what steps do I need to
take to make the partition bootable.

  Thanks,
 Chris
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Re: update /stand? (handbook 21.4.12)

[Martin Karlsson]

[about /stand/sysinstall in FreeBSD 5.X]

* Vitalis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-06-02 20.56 +]:

> Hi Jon,
> 
> I've asked exactly the same question to @questions and @current 2 days ago. 
> Unfortunately, nobody seems to have the answer...

I believe it has been answered (no line-wrapping intended):

http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=1782165+0+archive/2003/freebsd-current/20030601.freebsd-current>

(Vitalis: The fact that you haven't seen the answer could have 
something to do with you munging your e-mail address...)

Cheers,
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Re: Installing FreeBSD on Laptop

[Lowell Gilbert]

"Gunther, Dean (Dean)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I have a Midwest Micro Elite Soundbook laptop that I would like to install FreeBSD 
> on. 
> The box is a Pentium 75, with 40MB of RAM and a 2GB hard drive so it should be 
> doable.
> I started out to try an load from an ftp site using the 3COM 3C589D PCMCIA card but 
> was
> unable to figure out how to get FreeBSD to recognize the card.  I have a BackPack 
> CD-ROM
> drive (parallel port connection) that I use with the laptop, but I was unable to 
> find any information
> on whether or not I could get it to work to install FreeBSD.

Are you installing FreeBSD 4.8?
[If not, try it; that's the latest release, and the hardware notes say
that it supports that card.]
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Re: failed nfs installworld

[Lowell Gilbert]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> I have a full file system on a older box with a small drive.
> This box has 8mb ram/ 200mb hd.  So 
> it's hard for me to give up and reinstall Freebsd.
> I was doing a installworld from a nfs box, made some
> bad choices in make.conf. Can you say nobie?  =)

You don't mention what the actual "bad choices" were, nor what the
symptoms of your problems are.  If the system can still boot and
connect to the network, you can retry the install (you may need to
empty out your /usr partition a bit first).  If not, then you're
definitely going to have some effort fixing things.
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Re: Complicated routing/SSH-FTP tunneling problem

[Lowell Gilbert]

Daniela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Sunday 01 June 2003 23:51, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
> > Daniela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > I have the following problem:
> > >
> > > I'm running a FreeBSD SSH server.
> > > Some clients can't connect to it. They are on a local network, connected
> > > to the internet through another server. This second server used to allow
> > > SSH login, and users could then connect to my server from the second
> > > server.
> > >
> > > On the second server, SSH login isn't allowed any more. It won't route
> > > any requests to the outside, except for mail. The FTP port is open,
> > > however. I heard it is possible to create a tunnel over FTP, so the
> > > clients could still get to my server.
> > >
> > > How could we do this (if it is possible)? Are there other ways?
> >
> > You need some kind of cooperation from the other server.
> > It sounds like you're trying to get around security precautions of the
> > other server, but if that's not the case, you ought to work this out
> > with the administrator of the other server.
> 
> This is not possible, the admin won't let them out.
> This is because of high loads on the network. He doesn't care if only a few 
> people connect out.
> 
> > You can't create an IP tunnel over an FTP server; at least, not using
> > any FTP server software I know well...
> 
> The clients run Linux. Isn't it possible to get around this by routing their 
> reqests? They would only need to set the default gateway.

I may be misunderstanding you here, but I think that you're trying to
make an ssh connection into a system that isn't running sshd at all.
That won't work, obviously.  You *can* run sshd on the ftp port if you
want, but you still have to run it.
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Re: Problem with non-superuser X logons after moving/expanding /var

[Lowell Gilbert]

Tom Parquette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I installed an additional disk in a machine and expanded the space
> allocated to /var.
> I run this desktop with XFree86 and GDM.
> root can logon without complaints but if a non--superuser tries to
> logon, the session fails immediately.
> The following appears in .xsession-errors.  I'm concluding I did
> something wrong when I moved /var but I'm not sure where to start with
> this.

Looks like you nuked the permissions somewhere.
  mtree -U -p /var < /etc/mtree/BSD.var.dist
should fix it.
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Re: DNS and natd

[Chuck Swiger]

Alfonso Romero wrote:
I´m using natd on a FreeBSD 4.8 box as a gateway, so my internal LAN can
access Internet. I´ve configured a web server, but the local LAN machines
can´t access the server by it´s domain name. If I setup my FreeBSD gateway to
also act as a DNS server, are my local LAN machines going to be able to
access my web server with www.ibacsoft.dynu.com, instead of 192.168.0.2?
10-bjork# nslookup www.ibacsoft.dynu.com
Name:www.ibacsoft.dynu.com
Address:  200.67.41.134
What happens when you do a "traceroute 200.67.41.134" from an internal 
machine...does it get to the web server as you expect?

If the webserver is the same system as the NAT box, you'll have to add that IP 
to the natd flags and maybe apache's config file, I believe...

-Chuck

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DNS and natd

[Alfonso Romero]

I´m using natd on a FreeBSD 4.8 box as a gateway, so my internal LAN can access 
Internet. I´ve configured a web server, but the local LAN machines can´t access the 
server by it´s domain name. If I setup my FreeBSD gateway to also act as a DNS server, 
are my local LAN machines going to be able to access my web server with 
www.ibacsoft.dynu.com, instead of 192.168.0.2?


Thanks in advance


Alfonso
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Re: List Administration, was: Re: your mail

[Jerry McAllister]

> 

So who is mocking.  Not I.   I would consider voluntarily 
moderating this list as a monumental job - well beyond anything 
I would have time for.

jerry

> Jerry McAllister wrote:
> [ ... ]
>  >> I'm volunteering my time, network bandwidth,
> > 
> > Whew.
> 
> Neighbor, for choice I try to be polite, even in the face of sarcastic comments, 
> false admiration, rhetorical games, and all of the other bullshit that some 
> people exhibit.
> 
> Most of the time, I leave it at that.
> 
> However, I sometimes wonder whether people who are trying to be impolite to me 
> have the background to understand what I consider a "real problem".  Most people 
> don't think of pain as being educational, I've learned.  Most people have the 
> choice of not thinking about pain at all, much less wonder whether they should 
> think of pain as a friend or only an old, familiar acquaintance.  Sad, hmm?
> 
> I don't mock people for being ignorant, Jerry; I envy them.
> 
> And while it may be true that I envy someone for their blind ignorance, I've 
> rarely found it beneficial to explain this perspective to other people.  Troy 
> Settle pushed hard enough to get a taste of reality rather than courtesy from 
> me.  Troy apparently was intelligent enough to learn from the experience.  Are 
> you also capable of learning behavior, Jerry?
> 
> -- 
> -Chuck
> 
> 
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Re: Installing FreeBSD on Laptop

[doug]

I assume you tried to configure the kernel before running the install
program.

Assuming the handbook:

  http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html

or the hardware notes:

http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.8R/hardware-i386.html

Do not cover your hardware, I would ask the hardware question to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and/or [EMAIL PROTECTED] There may be a
driver that will recognize your CDROM.


On Mon, 2 Jun 2003, Gunther, Dean (Dean) wrote:

> I have a Midwest Micro Elite Soundbook laptop that I would like to
> install FreeBSD on. The box is a Pentium 75, with 40MB of RAM and a 2GB
> hard drive so it should be doable.  I started out to try an load from an
> ftp site using the 3COM 3C589D PCMCIA card but was unable to figure out
> how to get FreeBSD to recognize the card.  I have a BackPack CD-ROM
> drive (parallel port connection) that I use with the laptop, but I was
> unable to find any information on whether or not I could get it to work
> to install FreeBSD. 
> 
> I created the boot floppies and was able to get the install shell going
> but without any access to the install files I was at a loss how to
> proceed.  I guess if I really wanted to I could try a floppy install,
> but I was hoping for something a little quicker.  At home I have a cable
> modem and a linksys NAT box providing internet access so ftp does not
> sound like a bad way to go, but I wasn't able to figure out how to get
> the system to recognize the PCMCIA card.  If there is a way to use the
> BP CD-ROM that would be even better, but again I couldn't find any
> reference to backpack's or even parallel drives so that has not been a
> fruitful avenue to look down. 
> 
> I am still kind of new to FreeBSD and UNIX, but I am trying to learn.  I
> thought that installing FreeBSD on my old laptop would be a way to keep
> it somewhat useful if only for web-surfing and/ or playing around with
> some scripting work I would like to try to do. 
> 
> Any help or ideas would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> TIA
> 
> Dean M. Gunther
> Q-Agent
> Lucent LWS
> 
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Re: update /stand? (handbook 21.4.12)

[Vitalis]

On 02 Jun 2003 14:57:53 +
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> I have been running the 5.1-BETAs and just updated to 5.1-RC.  I wanted 
> to update /stand at the same time.  However, the handbook section 
> (21.4.12) for this is not accurate for 5.x.  The sysinstall section was 
> repocopied to src/usr.sbin/sysinstall from release/sysinstall.  Is 
> running a "make all install" in this new location sufficient to update 
> /stand?  I did that but it only installed the man page and copied 
> sysinstall to /usr/sbin.  How does one update /stand in 5.x?
> 
> Thanks,
> Jon Noack
> 
> This message was posted to both the doc@ and questions@ lists.
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Hi Jon,

I've asked exactly the same question to @questions and @current 2 days ago. 
Unfortunately, nobody seems to have the answer...

Regards
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Re: List Administration, was: Re: your mail

[Chuck Swiger]

Jerry McAllister wrote:
[ ... ]
>> I'm volunteering my time, network bandwidth,
Whew.
Neighbor, for choice I try to be polite, even in the face of sarcastic comments, 
false admiration, rhetorical games, and all of the other bullshit that some 
people exhibit.

Most of the time, I leave it at that.

However, I sometimes wonder whether people who are trying to be impolite to me 
have the background to understand what I consider a "real problem".  Most people 
don't think of pain as being educational, I've learned.  Most people have the 
choice of not thinking about pain at all, much less wonder whether they should 
think of pain as a friend or only an old, familiar acquaintance.  Sad, hmm?

I don't mock people for being ignorant, Jerry; I envy them.

And while it may be true that I envy someone for their blind ignorance, I've 
rarely found it beneficial to explain this perspective to other people.  Troy 
Settle pushed hard enough to get a taste of reality rather than courtesy from 
me.  Troy apparently was intelligent enough to learn from the experience.  Are 
you also capable of learning behavior, Jerry?

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-Chuck
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gateway

[adrian kok]

Hi all

I would like to know

ls it possible to have 2 gateways on one computer?

if yes, how do I set it in freebsd?

Thank you


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Re: ipfw final rule

[Daan Vreeken [PA4DAN]]

On Monday 02 June 2003 18:02, Gary Aitken wrote:
>I was considering turning on bridging, which requires the final ipfw
>rule to be allow, not deny.
>So I added a deny rule at 65534, but temporarily left the default deny
>rule in place in the kernel.
>
>Interestingly, my log shows the following:
> > 65534   582   58547 deny ip from any to any
> > 65535 3 234 deny ip from any to any
>
> This looks like an impossible situation, since the last 3 should have been
> caug ht by the previous rule.
I think they got caught in the split second between the time of flushing out 
all rules and loading a new ruleset.
At that time 65535 was the only rule in the ruleset and 3 packets must have 
reached your machine...

grtz,
Daan
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papersize settings for docbook formatting on dvi

[Felix von Delius]

I posted this question to freebsd-doc, but maybe it belongs to this group... 
sorry for the crosspost...

Can someone give me a hint where to set different margin settings (i.e. a4) 
for formatting the FDP books to DVI/postscript? I couldn't figure out where 
to set the papersize and/or margins for docbook -> dvi formatting.  Even in 
the FDP primer I couldn't find a hint (maybe I should create a documentation 
diff as PR after figuring out where to set it).

Thanks for your help!

-Felix

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Re: Using standard I/O on pipes?

[Gabriel Ambuehl]

Hi Gabriel Ambuehl,
you wrote.
GA> use printf() on stdout pipes in a shell neither) but maybe I'm
GA> overlooking something.

Actually, I was. My code didn't flush the buffers. I suppose I'll have
to use pty to get around that sort of trouble with other people's
code. Mpf.




Regards,
Gabriel

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Re: ipfw final rule

[DoubleF]

Gary Aitken wrote:
> I was considering turning on bridging, which requires the final ipfw
> rule to be allow, not deny.
> So I added a deny rule at 65534, but temporarily left the default deny
> rule in place in the kernel.
> Interestingly, my log shows the following:
>> 65534   582   58547 deny ip from any to any
>> 65535 3 234 deny ip from any to any
> This looks like an impossible situation, since the last 3 should have
> been caught by the previous rule.
> I presume those last three denied packets are really not ip packets at
> all, but some other packet like arp?

My guess is just that those 3 packets were caught just before the final
65534th deny rule was added. The fact that you indeed have some denied
packets (582) in 'normal' state makes that quite probable. Try zeroing
the stats out and leave it for a while. There should be 0 in 65535 rule
then.

HTH,
DoubleF

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Re: Repositioning /var | /tmp to avoid disk full condition

[Vallo Kallaste]

On Sat, May 31, 2003 at 11:58:23AM -0700, Joseph Maxwell
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> How can I restore the full functioning structural integrity as before,
> of course the contents of the /usr/var directory was wiped out somwhere
> along the way, sans log, sans mail, sans everything. Just want to
> continue as before.

FreeBSD uses mtree(8) to create distribution directories, look into
/etc/mtree, you find the templates there. In case you've lost the
/var hierarchy, the simplest way to recreate it is:
mtree -deU -f /etc/mtree/BSD.var.dist -p /var
This is what /usr/src/etc/Makefile distribution target uses, also.
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Re: List Administration, was: Re: your mail

[Jerry McAllister]

> 
> Jerry McAllister wrote:
> [ ... ]
> > Yah, and that one has been covered a hundred times too.
> 
> Oddly enough, several other FreeBSD lists have become moderated in recent 
> times.

Yes.  But they have more specifically limited scope.

jerry

> 
> > You want to pay a couple of full time salaries to people to 
> > sit around and moderate the list,  cough up.
> 
> Sure, I'm willing to "cough up".  I'm volunteering my time, network bandwidth, 

Whew.

> and resources to help...or try to, anyway.  I've had one person also express 
> willingness to moderate.

> 
> -- 
> -Chuck
> 
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password aging

[Glenn Johnson]

I need to implement a password aging capability for my FreeBSD systems  
(5.0).  This is mandated by my employer.  I want to be able to have the 
user prompted to change the password every 30 days and disallow login   
if the password is not changed.  It would be nice to have a password
strength checker run as well before accepting the password. 

I figured out how to set the password expiry date but the password
change field is not updated in the master.passwd file after the password
is changed.  It looks like I am going to have to write some scripts to
handle this but I wanted to check with the list to see if any one could
offer any pointers, gotchas, etc.

Thanks.

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Re: Upgrading a live server with rdist

[Chuck Swiger]

Jamie wrote:
   I am trying to upgrade a running production server with rdist, but some
of the files will not update. I am getting messages like:
rdist: server.foo.net:/bin/rcp: Operation not permitted
updating: /kernel
rdist: server.foo.net:/kernel: Operation not permitted
updating: /sbin/init
rdist: server.foo.net:/sbin/init: Operation not permitted
These files probably have the system immutable flag set.  Make sure you do not 
have the system security level enabled ("sysctl kern.securelevel" gives -1), 
then run:

	chflags noschg /kernel /bin/rcp /sbin/init

...or "chflags -R noschg /".

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Using standard I/O on pipes?

[Gabriel Ambuehl]

Hi,
I'm running into trouble using stdio on pipes. Basically, my app
redirects the stdout to a pipe and then execs a filter which should
be able to printf() and all other means that write to stdout but when
I run the code, it will only transmit data that I write directly with
write() systemcalls. I'm thinking this should work (else I couldn't
use printf() on stdout pipes in a shell neither) but maybe I'm
overlooking something.

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Re: List Administration, was: Re: your mail

[Chuck Swiger]

Jerry McAllister wrote:
[ ... ]
Yah, and that one has been covered a hundred times too.
Oddly enough, several other FreeBSD lists have become moderated in recent times.

You want to pay a couple of full time salaries to people to 
sit around and moderate the list,  cough up.
Sure, I'm willing to "cough up".  I'm volunteering my time, network bandwidth, 
and resources to help...or try to, anyway.  I've had one person also express 
willingness to moderate.

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PAM

[Pawel Doncer]

Hello.

I'm using Kerberos (heimdal) and off course it uses PAM.
It's working well but I want to know if is the way to change kerberos
password through PAM, not using "kpasswd" command? Or maybe it's even
possible to synchronize kerberos and UNIX passwords?

Can someone help me?

Pawel Doncer.

(please forgive me poor English)

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Upgrading a live server with rdist

[Jamie]

   I am trying to upgrade a running production server with rdist, but some
of the files will not update. I am getting messages like:


rdist: server.foo.net:/bin/rcp: Operation not permitted
updating: /kernel
rdist: server.foo.net:/kernel: Operation not permitted
updating: /sbin/init
rdist: server.foo.net:/sbin/init: Operation not permitted



   It appears rdist will not allow updates on processes that are loaded
and running in memory. Is there any way to accomplish this with rdist or
one of it's cousins?


   We have one test machine which is identical to all our production
servers new patches are compiled into and are then tested. If it tests
okay, we'd like to be able to simply run rdist from there out to our other
production systems.

   We've also considered sharing the /usr/src/ directory after the tests
pass, and then recompiling the binaries on the remote systems, but to do
that you need to run mergemaster on each machine and bring it into single
user mode. We'd like to avoid that downtime, iff possible.

   Anyone have insight/suggestions that would help guide us? Thanks,



- Jamie









"A friend is someone who lets you have total freedom to be yourself."

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