max open files reached

2003-06-04 Thread Roman Neuhauser
I have a script run by periodic(8) in the daily batch that is supposed
to backup all databases from the local MySQL server using
mysqlhostcopy(1). It used to run fine for a few months, but has
been failing consistently with ENFILE (23) lately.

The box is an Intel Celeron 533 (or some such) with 128 MB RAM. These
are all the related sysctl knobs I could find. This is as of 20:40, so
the value of kern.openfiles is reasonable.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ 1001:0 > sysctl -a kern|grep files
kern.maxfiles: 2024
kern.maxfilesperproc: 1821
kern.openfiles: 512

I've cranked the kern.maxfiles value to 4096, and the backup has run to
completion again, but am I risking anything? I mean, the fd's cost
memory, is there any potential for problems?

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Re: Locking down secondary mx sendmail

2003-06-04 Thread Ruben de Groot
On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 03:16:15PM -0700, Doug Silver typed:
> It seems the spammers like to target secondary mx machines and let those 
> machines relay the email to the primary machine.  I've tried setting up the 
> virtusertable file to at least reject invalid emails on the secondary mx 
> machine, but it seems that sendmail bypasses that when it's doing mx relaying 
> for that domain.  So, does anyone have some suggestions to partially lock 
> down mx relay machines?
 
Do you have something like

VIRTUSER_DOMAIN_FILE(`/etc/mail/virtualdomains')

in your secondary mx machine's .mc file?
After that remake sendmail.cf and put the right domain names in
'/etc/mail/virtualdomains'

I haven't tried this but I think it should work.

greetings,
Ruben

> TIA
> 
> -doug
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Re: Repositioning /var | /tmp to avoid disk full condition

2003-06-04 Thread Sunil Sunder Raj
Hi,

# umount /var
# mv /var /usr
# ln -s /usr/var /var
In /etc/fstab remove the line containing /var

Regards
SSR

From: Joseph Maxwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: FreeBSD Users <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Repositioning /var | /tmp to avoid disk full condition
Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 11:58:23 -0700
Hello,
The 3rd edition of "The Complete FreeBSD" suggest repositioning the /var
directory ( and even /tmp) to prevent filling up that partition. I
ignored it and did just that today, filled it up. So I attempted the
repositioning with the following recommended command steps and results:
 cd /var
 tar cf - . | (cd /usr/var; tar xf - )
 cd /
 rm -rf /var
 ln -s /usr/var /var
However the  'rm -rf /var' returned

 rm: /var: Device busy

After trying all known tricks to me to remove /var, I concluded that
since it was mounted from the /etc/fstab I should dismount it and remove
the directory (link point ?) and create a soft link there as
recommended. However, on rebooting boot was aborted, was thrown into
single users mode. After some findangling eventually got the system back
up as before with the /var directory, except that now it contains only
the /var/cron and /var/run directories.
The original /var contained

 /var/account:
 /var/at:
 /var/backups:
 /var/crash:
 /var/cron:
 /var/db:
 /var/games:
 /var/log:
 /var/lost+found:
 /var/mail:
 /var/msgs:
 /var/preserve:
 /var/qmail:
 /var/run:
 /var/rwho:
 /var/smtpd:
 /var/spool:
 /var/tmp:
 /var/webmin:
 /var/yp:
How can I restore the full functioning structural integrity as before,
of course the contents of the /usr/var directory was wiped out somwhere
along the way, sans log, sans mail, sans everything. Just want to
continue as before.
Thanks.

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Re: How can I recover the password for root in FreeBSD 4.4

2003-06-04 Thread Sunil Sunder Raj
Hi,

CHANGE ROOT PASSWORD
=
STEPS
=
As the os(FREEBSD) is starting it will display the following message:
Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt.

Booting [kernel ] in 10 seconds...

You should now ress the space bar, and you will see the following message:

Type '?' for a list of commands, or 'help' for more detailed help.

ok

now type boot -s and press the enter key to start FreeBSD in single user
mode. After the system boots, you should see the statement:
Enter fill pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh:

Press the enter key and you will have a # prompt.

[Mount  the filesystems]

At the command prompt. issue the mount command. This command will mount
all the filesystems listed in your /etc/fstab file.
# mount -t ufs -a

[Change the root password]

Issue the passwd command and you will be prompted to enter a new password
for the root account.
#passwd
New password:
passwd: updating the database...
passwd: done
[Change the manage password]

#passwd manage

#exit
There is no need to reboot the operating system to go to multi-user
mode. The exit command will cause the system to return to multi-user miode
without a reboot.
Regards
SSR

From: "Simon-Pierre Butsana" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Simon-Pierre Butsana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How can I recover the password for root in FreeBSD 4.4
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 09:54:20 +0100
Hi,

I changed yesterday the password for root on my server because I found it 
too simple. Unfortunately I didn't write it and now I just can't remind it. 
I still have access to an account belonging to the wheel group. Is there 
any means to recover or to set a new password for root?
I would appreciate any help on this.
many thanks,

Simon
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Re: calcru negative time error

2003-06-04 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Jimi Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> That web page said to enter this command (which I do not have a good
> understanding of but did anyway)
> 
> # sysctl -w kern.timecounter.method=1
> 
> which I did, but apparently my 5.0 doesn't like that because it
> promptly spit back:
> 
> sysctl: unknown oid 'kern.timecounter.method'

Does 5.0 *have* that sysctl?
"sysctl kern.timecounter.method" will tell you.

The handbook is still primarily oriented toward 4.x, because 5.x isn't
officially ready for production use yet.  
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Re: How can I recover the password for root in FreeBSD 4.4

2003-06-04 Thread Olivier Nicole
> I changed yesterday the password for root on my server because I found it too s

If you have access to the concole, boot as single user and remove the
password from /etc/master.password

Olivier
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Re: Clipboard

2003-06-04 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Konrad Scorciapino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> The clipboard is not working properly here. The things I copy in a program 
> usually can't be pasted elsewhere. I am running blackbox and using wmcliphist 
> to manage the data.

Try using xclipboard as a test application...
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Re: setting uid,gid on samba share

2003-06-04 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Jon Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I used to be able to issue the command:
> mount -t smbfs -o username=jonr,password=password,uid=jon,gid=jon
> //server/share /mnt/shared
> 
> This has always worked before but now on freebsd4.8 the -o is no longer
> an option. How can I connect and set the uid,gid? I have read the
> mount_smbfs man page and see an -O option but I don't understand how to
> make it do what I want.
> 
> Can someone help me finger this out?

mount_smbfs takes -u and -g options.  
You'll need to quote them, I think, but they should do what you need.
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Re: gateway

2003-06-04 Thread Lowell Gilbert
adrian kok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I would like to know
> 
> ls it possible to have 2 gateways on one computer?
> 
> if yes, how do I set it in freebsd?

You can have routes through as many other routers as you can directly
reach, and any of them can be on any IP interface you reach them
through.  You can set those routes with the route(8) command, or if
the other routers cooperate, through a routing protocol.
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Re: 4.8 stable make installworld problems

2003-06-04 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Alexander Prohorenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I've CVSuped to 4.8-STABLE  a day ago, did buildworld, buildkernel and
> installkernel   without   any  problems,  but  when  I  tried  to  do
> installworld I've got the following:

Clear out /usr/obj, cvsup again, and try the whole procedure over.
You may just have gotten the source at a bad time.
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Re: FreeBSD applications on MacOS X

2003-06-04 Thread Chuck Swiger
Pisut Tempatarachoke wrote:
[ ... ]
Can all of the programs listed in http://www.freebsd.org/ports/index.html
run on MacOS X?  Where can I find out more information, please?  Thanks very
much.
Not all of them, but many will.  Refer to the FINK project:

http://fink.sourceforge.net/

"The Fink project wants to bring the full world of Unix Open Source software to 
Darwin and Mac OS X. We modify Unix software so that it compiles and runs on Mac 
OS X ("port" it) and make it available for download as a coherent distribution. 
Fink uses Debian tools like dpkg and apt-get to provide powerful binary package 
management. You can choose whether you want to download precompiled binary 
packages or build everything from source. Read more... "

--
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Re: Tape backup using a OnStream SC-30

2003-06-04 Thread Jens Rehsack
On 6/4/2003 12:47 PM, Mark Pearce wrote:
> Hi Jens

Hi Mark,

> Thanks for your reply.  Do you have any idea what tape drives are best
> for the FreeBSD platform as I have no intention to changing my clients
> server to Linux.  I know there are almost none listed on the hardware
> lists.

At first: Please ever send at least a carbon copy to the list you've
asked first. This have 2 reasons:
1) The list is archived and any later similar question could easily
   be answered by searching the archives.
2) The replyer may not be able to help you further than (s)he already
   did.

Second: Sorry, I don't know. Nearly every big manufacturer should do.
The new onstream streamer, for example, do. But I'm disappointed by
onstream, so if I were you, I would use another manufacturer, eg. IBM,
HP, ...
Searching the archives or ask google may help.

> Thanks
> 
> Mark

Regards,
Jens

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FreeBSD applications on MacOS X

2003-06-04 Thread Pisut Tempatarachoke
Hi,
Can all of the programs listed in http://www.freebsd.org/ports/index.html
run on MacOS X?  Where can I find out more information, please?  Thanks very
much.
Cheers
tempo

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Re: 4.8-STABLE /dev/null issue

2003-06-04 Thread Sunil Sunder Raj
Hi,
The permissions on /dev/null is changed by some one. Please try
cd /dev
rm null
mknod null c 2 2
chmod 666 null
regards
SSR


From: Scott Kupferschmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: 4.8-STABLE /dev/null issue
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 00:34:58 -0400 (EDT)
Hello,

This may have been previously discussed, but I have yet to find a solution
yet so looking to find some guidance here.
I have a customer who has 2 servers, one is 4.8-RC and the other is
4.8-STABLE.  No problems have been noted on his server with 4.8-RC,
however the one running 4.8-STABLE seems to have some random /dev/null
permission changes and I'm stumped.
He runs a cron script (on both servers) and redirects the output to
/dev/null, and everytime he does it on the 4.8-STABLE the permissions
change from crw-rw-rw- to crw-r--r-- which is rather odd.  Anytime I 'echo
blah >/dev/null' just in a regular shell, nothing goes wrong, only when in
cron.
Errors reported in /var/log/maillog are something like this:

Jun  2 21:06:56 diamond sm-msp-queue[97747]: h5316uZO097747: disconnect:
open("/dev/null") failed: Permission denied
Also, cron reports similar:

Subject: Cron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> echo blah >/dev/null
X-Cron-Env: 
X-Cron-Env: 
X-Cron-Env: 
X-Cron-Env: 
X-Cron-Env: 
cannot create /dev/null: permission denied

I cvsup'd, rebuilt the world, mergemaster'd the system to the latest and
still experience issues.  Was there a change between 4.8-RC and 4.8-STABLE
that is causing this that I am just overlooking here?
Any advice is greatly appreciated, as of right now I am banging my head.

Sincerely,

Scott Kupferschmidt
ISPrime, Inc.
866.502.4678 ext. 3
AIM: Scott ISPrime - ICQ: 174337249
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Re: booteasy / syslog

2003-06-04 Thread sektie
> Completely unrelated i know, but I am having problems finding how to 
> setup sysogd to accept logs from a remote host, in this case a 
> gateway router at another site. Just a link to   a good how-to would 
> help. I have googled but to no avail.

I have something set up to do that.

Host 1: sacrifical-lamb, running OpenBSD 3.2. (not a fan of OpenBSD, 
obviously.) syslogd is listening on port 514. On your log server, verify 
that when you do a netstat -an you have the following:

udp0  0  *.514  *.*

AFAIK, all you have to do is verify that syslogd is running with the -a flag 
to specify an allowed IP. (man syslogd for exact syntax). 

Host 2: perlpimp, running FreeBSD 5. In my syslog.conf, I have a line that 
looks like:

*.* @sacrificial-lamb

This makes perlpimp log *.* to sacrificial lamb. It's pretty easy to set up, 
providing you don't have any whackass firewalling or other weird stuff going 
on.


Randi

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Re: Tape backup using a OnStream SC-30

2003-06-04 Thread Jens Rehsack
On 6/4/2003 12:33 PM, Mark Pearce wrote:
> Hi

Hi Mark,

> I am having trouble trying to backup data using an OnStream ADR drive.
> I have read the dump, sa, sr, tar man pages and have googled as well,
> but am still having no joy.
> 
> I have the following results:
> 
> dmesg:
> sa0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 4 lun 0
> sa0:  Removable Sequential Access SCSI-2 device
> sa0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 7)
> 
> 
> camcontrol devlist -v:
> scbus0 on ahc0 bus 0:
>   at scbus0 target 4 lun 0 (pass0,sa0)
> <  >   at scbus0 target -1 lun -1 ()
> scbus-1 on xpt0 bus 0:
> <  >   at scbus-1 target -1 lun -1 (xpt0)
> 
> 
> 
> [09:38 AM [EMAIL PROTECTED] dev]# /sbin/dump -0uan -f - /data1 | gzip -2 |dd
> of=/dev/sa0
> DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Wed Jun  4 09:44:07
> 2003
> DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch
> 
> DUMP: Dumping /dev/ad0s1h (/data1) to standard output
> DUMP: mapping (Pass I) [regular files]
> dd: /dev/sa0: Invalid argument
> 
> [09:56 AM [EMAIL PROTECTED] dev]# tar c /data1
> tar: /dev/sa0: Cannot open: Invalid argument
> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
> 
> 
> I am at my wits end, I seriously need to get this backup working.  I
> have found some reports that the SCSI adaptor, using the aha78xx driver
> coupled with this OnStream drive might be incompatable.
> 
> Either that or I am doing something wrong, please help.

No, you don't do sth. wrong. Onstream did but didn't tell it it's
customers before the buy. The produced streamers with an SCSI interface
but didn't respect the SCSI streaming access commands, but implement an
own command set.

You can do some things to get it work:
1) Port the linux driver to FreeBSD
2) Use vmware to run either linux or windows which may grant access
3) Use another streamer
4) Use another backup medium. just like cdr

Jens

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Tape backup using a OnStream SC-30

2003-06-04 Thread Mark Pearce
Hi

I am having trouble trying to backup data using an OnStream ADR drive.
I have read the dump, sa, sr, tar man pages and have googled as well,
but am still having no joy.

I have the following results:

dmesg:
sa0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 4 lun 0
sa0:  Removable Sequential Access SCSI-2 device
sa0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 7)


camcontrol devlist -v:
scbus0 on ahc0 bus 0:
  at scbus0 target 4 lun 0 (pass0,sa0)
<  >   at scbus0 target -1 lun -1 ()
scbus-1 on xpt0 bus 0:
<  >   at scbus-1 target -1 lun -1 (xpt0)



[09:38 AM [EMAIL PROTECTED] dev]# /sbin/dump -0uan -f - /data1 | gzip -2 |dd
of=/dev/sa0
DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Wed Jun  4 09:44:07
2003
DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch

DUMP: Dumping /dev/ad0s1h (/data1) to standard output
DUMP: mapping (Pass I) [regular files]
dd: /dev/sa0: Invalid argument

[09:56 AM [EMAIL PROTECTED] dev]# tar c /data1
tar: /dev/sa0: Cannot open: Invalid argument
tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now


I am at my wits end, I seriously need to get this backup working.  I
have found some reports that the SCSI adaptor, using the aha78xx driver
coupled with this OnStream drive might be incompatable.

Either that or I am doing something wrong, please help.

Mark

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cyrus-sasl2 setup failing

2003-06-04 Thread admin


okay heres what I got:

FreeBSD 4.8 Stable
Sendmail 8.12.9-sasl2 (compiled from /usr/ports/mail/sendmail-sasl)
cyrus-sasl-2.1.13 (compiled from /usr/ports/security/cyrus-sasl2-saslauthd)


A client is still not able to authenticate via SASL - looks like is it not
happy but I am not sure how to fix it.  Anybody got a clue what I am doing
wrong here?


note: there is no 250-AUTH line 


--- shell output 
typhoon# sendmail -d0.1 -bv root | grep SASL
NAMED_BIND NETINET NETINET6 NETUNIX NEWDB NIS PIPELINING SASLv2
typhoon# telnet 127.0.0.1 25
Trying 127.0.0.1...
Connected to localhost.enabled.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 typhoon.enabled.com ESMTP Sendmail 8.12.9/8.12.9; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 19:20:33 -
0700 (PDT)
ehlo localhost
250-typhoon.enabled.com Hello localhost.enabled.com [127.0.0.1], pleased to meet
 you
250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
250-PIPELINING
250-8BITMIME
250-SIZE
250-DSN
250-ETRN
250-STARTTLS
250-DELIVERBY
250 HELP
--- snip 


- from .mc file ---
### password authentication for relaying only
define(`confAUTH_OPTIONS', `A p y')dnl
define(`confAUTH_MECHANISMS', `LOGIN PLAIN')dnl
TRUST_AUTH_MECH(`LOGIN PLAIN')dnl
--

 from /usr/local/lib/sasl2/Sendmail.conf -
typhoon# less /usr/local/lib/sasl2/Sendmail.conf
pwcheck_method: passwd
--

--- from the maillog sendmail startup 
Jun  4 20:06:15 typhoon sm-mta[43601]: restarting /usr/local/sbin/sendmail due
to signal
Jun  4 20:06:15 typhoon sm-mta[78359]: starting daemon (8.12.9):
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:10:00
Jun  4 20:06:15 typhoon sm-mta[78359]: STARTTLS=server, init=1
Jun  4 20:06:15 typhoon sm-mta[78359]: started as: /usr/local/sbin/sendmail -L
sm-mta -bd -q10m
-

--- from the logs when some attempts to authenticate 
Jun  4 20:09:46 typhoon sm-mta[78399]: STARTTLS=server,
relay=volcano.enabled.com [131.161.240.131], version=TLSv1/SSLv3, verify=NO,
cipher=RC4-MD5, bits=128/128
Jun  4 20:09:46 typhoon sm-mta[78399]: STARTTLS=server, cert-subject=,
cert-issuer=
Jun  4 20:09:46 typhoon sm-mta[78399]: AUTH: available mech=NTLM LOGIN PLAIN
OTP DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5, allowed mech=LOGIN PLAIN
Jun  4 20:09:46 typhoon sm-mta[78399]: h5539jJQ078399: AUTH failure (LOGIN):
no mechanism available (-4) SASL(-4): no mechanism available: checkpass failed
Jun  4 20:09:46 typhoon sm-mta[78399]: h5539jJQ078399: volcano.enabled.com
[131.161.240.131] did not issue MAIL/EXPN/VRFY/ETRN during connection to MTA
---



- Noah

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Re: booteasy / syslog

2003-06-04 Thread Robert Storey
On Thu, 5 Jun 2003 00:31:03 +0100
Matthew Ryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi there,
> 
> Does anybody know how i can configure booteasy not to remember the last 
> choice i made. I would like it to default to one particular boot (XP in 
> fact), so that my 5 year old does not occasionally find himself looking 
> at a FreeBSD login prompt.
> 
> Failing that, can anyone recommend an alternative boot manager.

GRUB is good. A very informative article about GRUB can be found here:

  http://www2.linuxjournal.com/lj-issues/issue85/4622.html

If you decide to use GRUB, you'll need a few lines in /boot/grub/menu.lst to load FBSD 
- the following is what I have:

  title FreeBSD
  root (hd0,1,a)
  kernel /boot/loader
  boot

Obviously, the second line will vary depending on which partition you've installed 
FBSD.

And if you've got Windows on the first partition:

  title Windows
rootnoverify (hd0,0)
chainloader +1


I suggest you download the GRUB boot floppy and experiment with that before deciding 
if you want to install it to your MBR.

hope this helps,
Robert
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Re[2]: 4.8 stable make installworld problems

2003-06-04 Thread Alexander Prohorenko
Hey.

*default host=cvsup2.FreeBSD.org
*default base=/usr
*default prefix=/usr
*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4
*default delete use-rel-suffix

src-all
ports-all tag=.
doc-all tag=.

That's what I used, sorry, forgot to put this into original message.

Wednesday, June 04, 2003, 5:59:31 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Hello,

>> I've CVSuped to 4.8-STABLE  a day ago, did buildworld, > > 
> buildkernel and
>> installkernel   without   any  problems,  but  when  I  tried  to  do
>> installworld I've got the following:

>> [...]

> What is CVS tag you cvsed ? Letting others know you may get
> the answer faster.





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portupgrade issue 4.8-STABLE

2003-06-04 Thread Rob B
Hi all,

I've sent this to stable@, but no luck so far, so I thought I'd throw it to 
all and sundry:

Having a bit of a problem with portupgrade on a -STABLE machine:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]/root: portupgrade -aRn
--->  Session started at: Tue, 27 May 2003 22:54:00 +1000
closed stream
--->  Session ended at: Tue, 27 May 2003 22:54:01 +1000 (consumed 00:00:01)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]/root:
pkgdb -F does the same thing.  Any clues?  INDEX has been rebuild as well.

cheers,
Rob
[EMAIL PROTECTED]/root: uname -a
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Re: where to put tarball

2003-06-04 Thread Chuck Swiger
Robert Storey wrote:
Thanks Kliment.  However, I wonder about uninstalling. If I think there's a
possibility I'd want to uninstall later, don't I need to preserve the directory
for a "make uninstall"?  Or is there some other way to uninstall?
If you want to be able to uninstall the software, you should strongly consider 
using or making a port of the software.  If you install the software that way, 
you can do a "pkg_delete _name_" to remove the software without needing to keep 
the sources around.

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Re: dot.bashrc, where is it?

2003-06-04 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Tue, 3 Jun 2003 16:04:53 +0200
"Didier Wiroth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[ ... ]
For a beginner (coming from a windows world) who doesn't know which shell is
better, sorry more adequate, it is easier to have a sample config file, to
start learning how to configure you shell!
Hi, Didier--

The standard shell under FreeBSD is the Bourne shell, or /bin/sh. (*)  It's 
useful to know if only for the sake of comparison to other shells, since it's 
the standard reference.

BASH is closely related to the classic Bourne shell, and is sometimes installed 
as /bin/sh on some platforms-- various Linux flavors, mostly.  The Korn shell, 
/bin/ksh or pdksh, is also compatible with the Bourne shell syntax and added 
named procedures, and was heavily used by SysV Unices like Solaris, particularly 
in their package installation and system startup scripts.  I believe Microsoft 
also picked up a slightly(?) broken version of KSH for their POSIX environment 
under Windows NT and later.

Finally, I happen to use and recommend the Z Shell (/bin/zsh), which is being 
used as the default shell under Darwin and MacOS X; like bash, you can even 
install ZSH in place of /bin/sh.  ZSH can emulate sh, bash, ksh, and even the 
csh/tcsh shells, and thus is one of the most configurable shells available.

As you may have gathered, there are two major groupings of shells, the /bin/sh 
family described above, and a second grouping consisting of the C shell 
(/bin/csh) and derivatives like /bin/tcsh, which is what FreeBSD comes with as 
an alternative to /bin/sh.  At one time, /bin/sh was intended for shell scripts 
and was poorly suited for interactive use; /bin/csh was created with a lot more 
features and was more usable than the classic /bin/sh.

-
(*): FreeBSD now uses something called the "Ash shell" as /bin/sh, which targets 
the POSIX shell standard and thus includes a number of interactive features that 
people like-- command.com + DOSKEYS? in Didier's frame of reference.  These 
include command history, interactive filename completion, job control, named 
procedures, fancier substitution and env variable handling, etc.
-

Unfortunately, /bin/csh suffered from a misguided attempt to blend the syntax of 
the C programming language with the Bourne shell syntax, and is not recommended 
for scripting use.  (From the vantage of hindsight, "horribly misguided attempt" 
might be more accurate. :-)  Also, trying to learn both SH and CSH at the same 
time is likely to be very confusing due to these differences.

--
-Chuck
PS: Here's some sample system-wide shell script examples:

# /etc/profile: system wide startup file for /bin/sh and friends.
#
#
# This file sets critical environment variables exported to all processes,
# such as the search path, user identity, process limits, umask, etc.
#
# Important:  This file must not produce any output!  Do **NOT** assume
# the shell is interactive or attached to a terminal (tty).
#
# Copyright (c) 2003 Charles Swiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
# $Id: profile,v 1.3 2003/05/16 04:03:28 chuck Exp $


# ignore signals
trap "" 2 3
# Default permissions.
umask 022
# Set reasonable soft process limits.
ulimit -Sc 0
ulimit -Sd 512000
ulimit -Ss 16384
ulimit -Sn 256
ulimit -Su 100
# Please note: Most platforms have the system hard resource limits
# configured via OS-specific files like /etc/login.conf (BSD),
# /etc/system (Solaris), compilation-time configuration of /etc/init,
# /bin/sh, and/or the kernel.  That is to say, changing the values
# above without also tuning other aspects of the system-- appropriate
# to the situation-- may not produce the results one would expect.

# Configure critical environment variables.
PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin"
export PATH
# setup (unqualified) hostname if we can, else localhost
if [ "$HOST" = "" ]; then
HOST="`hostname | awk -F. '{print $1}'`"
if [ "$HOST" = "" ]; then
HOST="localhost"
fi
fi
export HOST
# setup username
if [ "$USER" = "" ]; then
USER="`id -un`"
if [ "$USER" = "" ]; then
USER="`whoami`"
fi
fi
export USER
UNAME_P="`uname -p`"; export UNAME_P
UNAME_S="`uname -s`"; export UNAME_S
BLOCKSIZE="K"; export BLOCKSIZE # inndf ergo sum
RSYNC_RSH="ssh"; export RSYNC_RSH
CVS_RSH="ssh"; export CVS_RSH
# Add other protocols which can tunnel via rsh or ssh here.  Per IESG
# recommendations, unencrypted plain text passwords should be avoided.

# look for per-platform, per-machine, or per-user localizations
if [ -r /etc/profile."$UNAME_S" ]; then
. /etc/profile."$UNAME_S"
fi
# Note: it might be reasonable to replace "elif" with "fi;if"
if [ -r /etc/profile_localhost ]; then
. /etc/profile_localhost
elif [ -r /etc/profile_"$HOST" ]; then
. /etc/profile_"$HOST"
fi
if [ -r /etc/profile_"$USER" ]; then
. /etc/profile_"$USER"
fi

# If this is a login or "su -" shell, perform more 

Re: How can I recover the password for root in FreeBSD 4.4

2003-06-04 Thread Simon Barner
Hi,

> I changed yesterday the password for root on my server because I found it too 
> simple. Unfortunately I didn't write it and now I just can't remind it. I still have 
> access to an account belonging to the wheel group. Is there any means to recover or 
> to set a new password for root?
> I would appreciate any help on this.
> many thanks,
> 

If you have access to the console, this should do the trick:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/admin.html#FORGOT-ROOT-PW

Simon


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Re: How can I recover the password for root in FreeBSD 4.4

2003-06-04 Thread Jens Rehsack
On 6/4/2003 10:54 AM, Simon-Pierre Butsana wrote:
> Hi,

Hi Simon,

> I changed yesterday the password for root on my server because I found it too simple.

That is a good idea - even with the bad the side effects you expirience
now :-)

> Unfortunately I didn't write it and now I just can't remind it. I
still have access
> to an account belonging to the wheel group. Is there any means to
recover or to set
> a new password for root?

I don't think this will help. Best would be to set the machine in single
user mode, either by booting using 'boot -s' or using 'shutdown now'.
Please don't do this if you don't have physical access to console

If you're in single user mode, choose a shell you want to use. /bin/sh
is a good choice. After that, simply reset your password using passwd(1).

> I would appreciate any help on this.

Good luck,
Jens

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Re: GKellM + Mount

2003-06-04 Thread Jalle
At 16:49 2003-06-03 -0300, Konrad Scorciapino wrote:
Hi,

I've tried changing the theme, but it just doesn't work. It usually can mount
the devices, but it can't unmount them.
I get error messages like "mount_cd9660: /dev/acd0c: Device busy", so I guess
it "doesn't know" whether the CD is actually mounted or not.
Well, that could be it, but it could also mean that you are currently using 
the
mounted device. It could be as simple as you are located in that directory 
in a shell,
or you are viewing it in a file manager (Nautilus, Konqueror, MC etc).

What is your exact line for unmounting devices? I guess youve tried many 
variations,
but generally
# umount /mnt/cdrom
is the correct way to do it. A more nasty approach would be
# umount -f /mnt/cdrom
Try that, and see if it helps, then we can work on it from there...

/Jalle



Any idea?

Thanks

On Tuesday 03 June 2003 15:49, you wrote:
> I certainly have, I use it all the time.
> I just put the ordinary mount command that you would normally type in your
> shell...
> Something like
> # mount_cd9660 /dev/cd0c /mnt/cdrom
> for mounting my DVD and
> # umount /mnt/cdrom
> for unmounting it.
>
> If it works in your shell, but not in gkrellm, try changing the theme on
> gkrellm.
> I know it sounds wierd, but I had it all working, changed the theme... drop
> dead!
> Changed it back, and its as smooth as ever. Try fiddling around.
>
> /Jalle
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How can I recover the password for root in FreeBSD 4.4

2003-06-04 Thread Simon-Pierre Butsana
Hi,

I changed yesterday the password for root on my server because I found it too simple. 
Unfortunately I didn't write it and now I just can't remind it. I still have access to 
an account belonging to the wheel group. Is there any means to recover or to set a new 
password for root?
I would appreciate any help on this.
many thanks,

Simon
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USB 2.0 boot

2003-06-04 Thread CVBNM
Hello all,

Is there any way to install FreeBSD 5.x on external USB 2.0 drive (using USB
to IDE controller)? How to get FreeBSD to use that drive, if BIOS sees it?
Probably there is no ehci driver in GENERIC kernel, isn't it?

Thanks

lk

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Re: Multicast Routing Performance

2003-06-04 Thread Gavin Kenny
Ahh! I am doing some testing of multicast video
streaming. It streams a single 8Mbps stream fine but
if I add another to it the throughput just falls away
for both streams.

Am I asking too much to stream approx 16Mbps? I kinda
thought that 100Mbps NICs and a PIII would handle it.
I don't suppose there are any settings I can tweak?

cheers

Gavin

 --- Olivier Nicole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Does
any one have any experience of using a
> FreeBSD
> > Box as a multicast router?
> > 
> > I have a PIII 800Mhz with two 100Mbps NICS, what
> kind
> > of throughput can I expect to get out of this
> setup?
> 
> We have been doing that for years.
> 
> But don't expect too much speed with a PIII 800, we
> usually have
> something like 10Mbps brust traffic.
> 
> Olivier 

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Re: What the simplest way to do outgoing smtp?

2003-06-04 Thread Viktor Lazlo


On Tue, 3 Jun 2003, Adam wrote:

>
> The absolute EASIEST way to set up SMTP is to use sSMTP .. It might be
> too simplistic for you, but in many cases it is sufficient for someone
> who only needs a barebones SMTP solution.
>
> http://packages.debian.org/testing/mail/ssmtp.html
> ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/mail/mta/

Why bother to install Linux packages when it's available in ports?

/usr/ports/mail/ssmtp

Cheers,

Viktor
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Tape backup using a OnStream SC-30

2003-06-04 Thread Mark Pearce
Hi

I am having trouble trying to backup data using an OnStream ADR drive. 
I have read the dump, sa, sr, tar man pages and have googled as well,
but am still having no joy.

I have the following results:

dmesg:
sa0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 4 lun 0
sa0:  Removable Sequential Access SCSI-2 device 
sa0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 7)


camcontrol devlist -v:
scbus0 on ahc0 bus 0:
  at scbus0 target 4 lun 0 (pass0,sa0)
<  >   at scbus0 target -1 lun -1 ()
scbus-1 on xpt0 bus 0:
<  >   at scbus-1 target -1 lun -1 (xpt0)



[09:38 AM [EMAIL PROTECTED] dev]# /sbin/dump -0uan -f - /data1 | gzip -2 |dd
of=/dev/sa0 DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Wed Jun  4 09:44:07
2003  DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch
  DUMP: Dumping /dev/ad0s1h (/data1) to standard output
  DUMP: mapping (Pass I) [regular files]
dd: /dev/sa0: Invalid argument

[09:56 AM [EMAIL PROTECTED] dev]# tar c /data1
tar: /dev/sa0: Cannot open: Invalid argument
tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now


I am at my wits end, I seriously need to get this backup working.  I
have found some reports that the SCSI adaptor, using the aha78xx driver
coupled with this OnStream drive might be incompatable.

Either that or I am doing something wrong, please help.

Mark
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Re: where to put tarball

2003-06-04 Thread Robert Storey
On Tue, 3 Jun 2003 09:31:05 -0400
"Kliment Andreev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > I'm wondering where is the proper location to put a tarball (containing
> source code) that I've downloaded and want to untar and compile. In Linux,
> you generally would put it in /usr/src. I know all the FreeBSD documentation
> says /usr/local is where all your personalized software
> 
> I put the tarballs in /tmp. Then I use make which actually compiles/installs
> software. You can override default install directory. After that, I simply
> rm -Rf /tmp/tarball.

Thanks Kliment. However, I wonder about uninstalling. If I think there's a possibility 
I'd want to uninstall later, don't I need to preserve the directory for a "make 
uninstall"? Or is there some other way to uninstall?

regards,
Robert
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Re: dot.bashrc, where is it?

2003-06-04 Thread Robert Storey
On Tue, 3 Jun 2003 16:04:53 +0200
"Didier Wiroth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> For a beginner (coming from a windows world) who doesn't know which shell is
> better, sorry more adequate, it is easier to have a sample config file, to
> start learning how to configure you shell!
> 
> Didier

Dear Didier,

Here's what I've put in my ~/.bashrc for all users (including root):

  alias rm='rm -i'
  alias cp='cp -i'
  alias mv='mv -i'
  set -o noclobber


While you're at it, here's what I added to ~/.profile for everybody as well:

  PS1="[EMAIL PROTECTED]:\w> "
  export PS1

Let us know if you have any specific questions about what these commands do.

regards,
Robert



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Re: Mount question

2003-06-04 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 08:25:00PM -0800, Jon Reynolds wrote:
>  How do I issue the 'mount' command so that I can tell it the uid an gid
> of the newly mounted filesystem?

That depends on the type of filesystem you're mounting.  Only certain
fs types support doing that sort of thing, and those are generally
derived from OSes with poor or no concept of individual user IDs.
Unix/Linux/FreeBSD filesystems (ufs, mfs, ext2, nfs, etc) already
incorporate owner/group information built into the filesystem
metadata.

Eg. see mount_msdos(8) as an example of a filesystem where file
ownership can be set wholesale -- the '-u uid' and '-g gid' options do
exactly what you want.  In general there should be a 'mount_foo(8)'
manual page for any filesystem type 'foo' supported by the system, and
that page will describe the filesystem specific options.

In the case of NFS you can override some uid/gid settings from the NFS
*server*: see the descriptions of the -maproot and -mapuser options in
exports(5).

Cheers,

Matthew

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FreeBSD + winbindd + PAM

2003-06-04 Thread Guy Antony Halse

I've been trying for a couple of weeks to get FreeBSD + winbindd + PAM
working, without success.  I'm hoping that someone here has bumped into my
problem before and has some advice to give.

My current setup is winbindd from Samba 2.8.8a on both FreeBSD 4.8-RELEASE
and 5.1-BETA.  I've configured Samba with the following options: syslog,
nocups, utmp, msdfs, quota, recycle, audit, winbind, wbauth.  On the
5.1-BETA box, I've also added the WITH_WINBIND_NSS=yes option.

My smb.conf has the following entries:

[global]
  workgroup = ICT
  netbios name = VARK
  security = domain
  password server = MADAM EVE
  encrypt passwords = yes
  winbind separator = .
  winbind uid = 1-2
  winbind gid = 1-2
  winbind enum users = yes
  winbind enum groups = yes
  template shell = /usr/local/bin/ftponly
  template homedir = /tmp/raid/%D.%U


I run winbindd, and set a domain admin password using wbinfo -A.  With this
I can successfully enumerate the domain's users and groups:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ wbinfo -u | wc -l
 675

On the 5.1-BETA box, I've edited nsswitch.conf to include winbindd and can
see winbindd users with pw(8).

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ pw usershow ICT.admingah
ICT.admingah:*:10004:10013::0:0:Guy Antony 
Halse:/tmp/raid/ICT.admingah:/usr/local/bin/ftponly

I realise this won't work on anything prior to the commitment of the new
nsswitch implementation by Jacques A. Vidrine, so I haven't bothered to try
this on the 4.8-RELEASE box.

So far, so good.  Everything works as I want to to, so I moved on to trying
to get PAM authentication working.

The first thing I noticed was that the pam_winbind.so from the port was not
installed (I checked the Makefile for PAM-related options and saw none), so
I manually copied this file into /usr/local/lib/compat and ran ldconfig(8). 
I have subsequently tried /usr/lib/compat too, but that shouldn't matter.

I edited {pam.conf,pam.d/ftpd} to create entries for my FTP server, that
looked like:

auth requiredpam_nologin.so  no_warn
auth sufficient  pam_opie.so no_warn no_fake_prompts
auth requisite   pam_opieaccess.so   no_warn allow_local
auth sufficient  pam_winbind.so  debug try_first_pass
auth requiredpam_unix.so no_warn try_first_pass
account  sufficient  pam_winbind.so  debug
account  requiredpam_unix.so
session  requiredpam_permit.so

This is where things start falling apart for me.  Authentication always
fails, and I get the following in my logs:

Jun  4 09:07:07 vark ftpd[97485]: connection from omniscient (146.231.120.1)
Jun  4 09:07:15 vark pam_winbind[97485]: Could not retrive user's password
Jun  4 09:07:15 vark kernel: Jun  4 09:07:15 vark pam_winbind[97485]: Could not 
retrive user's password
Jun  4 09:07:15 vark ftpd[97485]: in _openpam_check_error_code(): 
pam_sm_authenticate(): unexpected return value 20
Jun  4 09:07:15 vark kernel: Jun  4 09:07:15 vark ftpd[97485]: in _openpam_check 
_error_code(): pam_sm_authenticate(): unexpected return value 20
Jun  4 09:07:15 vark ftpd[97485]: FTP LOGIN FAILED FROM omniscient
Jun  4 09:07:15 vark kernel: Jun  4 09:07:15 vark ftpd[97485]: FTP LOGIN FAILED FROM 
omniscient
Jun  4 09:07:15 vark ftpd[97485]: FTP LOGIN FAILED FROM omniscient, ICT.admingah

This problem isn't just restricted to FTP.  If I try and set up PAM for
the login service, I get the same _openpam_check_error_code() error.

I've tried reducing my PAM config so that it was completely minimal,
consisting of only required pam_winbind.so lines, but this doesn't appear to
make a difference.

Using winbindd -i -d3, I've watched for connections to winbindd while PAM
authentication is happening, and no connections are ever logged by it. 
(They are when nsswitch is in use, and when I use wbinfo).

I've also tried recompiling the Samba suite with no optimizations (and
various stages of optimizations) as suggested by the pkg-message.  None of
this seems to make any difference to my problem whatsoever.


Anyone have any ideas as to how I can get this to work?

- Guy
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Re: sendmail AUTH_OPTIONS

2003-06-04 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 07:47:54PM -0400, Scott Hiemstra wrote:
> Noah,
> 
> I'm no sendmail expert, I prefer qmail myself but with some creative
> googling I found this which I believe will answer your question.
> 
> http://www.sendmail.org/m4/tweaking_config.html#confAUTH_OPTIONS

That is a good resource (essentially a HTML-ized version of
/usr/share/sendmail/cf/README), but the original poster might find
this chunk out of /usr/share/doc/smm/08.sendmailop/paper.ascii.gz more
useful:

  AuthOptions
[no short name] List  of  options  for  SMTP
AUTH  consisting  of  single characters with
intervening white space or commas.

A   Use the AUTH= parameter for the MAIL FROM
command only when authentication succeeded.
This can be used as a workaround for broken
MTAs that do not implement RFC 2554 correctly.
a   protection from active (non-dictionary) attacks
during authentication exchange.
c   require mechanisms which pass client credentials,
and allow mechanisms which can pass credentials
to do so.
d   don't permit mechanisms susceptible to passive
dictionary attack.
f   require forward secrecy between sessions
(breaking one won't help break next).
p   don't permit mechanisms susceptible to simple
passive attack (e.g., PLAIN, LOGIN), unless a
security layer is active.
y   don't permit mechanisms that allow anonymous login.

The first option applies to  sendmail  as  a
client, the others to a server.  Example:

O AuthOptions=p,y

would  disallow  ANONYMOUS as AUTH mechanism
and would allow PLAIN and LOGIN  only  if  a
security  layer (e.g., provided by STARTTLS)
is already active.  The  options  'a',  'c',
'd',  'f',  'p', and 'y' refer to properties
of the selected SASL  mechanisms.   Explana-
tions  of  these  properties can be found in

   [...]

the Cyrus SASL documentation.

So the OP's sendmail.mc file extract:

define(`confAUTH_OPTIONS', `A p')dnl

is absolutely fine. Either commas or spaces can be used to separate
the options, so he could use the equivalent:

define(`confAUTH_OPTIONS', `A,p')dnl

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Apsfilter

2003-06-04 Thread Teilhard Knight
Hello:

Apsfilter doesn't work for me. I have read all the manual and checked all 
possible sources of failure, and I do not find where it goes wrong. I get an 
excellent test printout, but apart from that, the spooler fails to send any 
jobs to the printer. On the other hand, cups works great on me. I have had 
reports that it doesn't work with KOffice, but I haven't checked that.

I write because apsfilter handles .dvi files, and apparently cups does not. I 
work quite a bit with TeX, and I am very interested in printing .dvi files in 
a desjket printer. Does anybody know about a workaround?

If it helps at all, my printer is an HP Laserjet 845c.

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Re: send-pr problem (DNS related)

2003-06-04 Thread Miguel Mendez
On Fri, 30 May 2003 17:15:39 +0200
Alex de Kruijff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi,

> I have been trying to send a pr but have some thouble with this. 
> The problem is that i am on a private lan and have a hostname 
> that only exist on that lan. Sending mail with sendmail or mutt is not
> a problem because of the -f option. I seem to be unable to give my 
> mail adres like i can with these two.

send-pr calls $EDITOR with the PR template, where you can change most
(all) fields, one of them being the From: part. It then feeds the result
to mail IIRC. You can put whatever you want to on the From field. Or,
 you could give sysutils/gtk-send-pr a try :)


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Re: Mount question

2003-06-04 Thread Chris Pressey
On 03 Jun 2003 20:25:00 -0800
Jon Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  How do I issue the 'mount' command so that I can tell it the uid an
>  gid of the newly mounted filesystem?

Probably the simplest way is to chown the directory where you plan to
mount it.

HTH
-Chris
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Netwriting Masters 202

2003-06-04 Thread Ken Evoy
~~
The Netwriting Masters... an intensive 5-Day e-mail 
course on how to write sales-clinching copy on the Net.
~~
If you have a friend who would benefit from taking this
course, please pass this on.  Or tell that person to receive
the 5-day course by sending a blank e-mail to...

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
~~
Refer to this course over and over again as you refine your
NETwriting skills and become an effective e-persuader. Print
each e-mail out, pour yourself a beverage of choice, bring
along a pen to jot down some ideas, and take it all to your
favorite sofa. This is serious -- your online words must
SELL. Go for best learning results -- get comfortable. :-)  
~~
Wed Jun 04 01:14:23 2003 
Netwriting Masters 202
~~

Nice to have you back again!

Got your MWR firmly planted in your brain?

Great!  But wait!  Don't put your shovel away just yet!

Have you made notes about the MYWS! site regarding MWR,
Opening Headline, Opening Paragraph, Sub-headings, Link to
Order Page, and Body Copy?

What do you mean, "The dog ate it?"  If you have not yet
done so, review the MYWS! site.  Read it with the following
in mind...

"How are these WORDS affecting me?  What are these words
trying to do?"

In other words, try to see into MY mind as I try to get
inside my customer's MINDSET.

You'll learn a lot more from the remaining four days that we
have left together, if you do this.

http://proven.sitesell.com/myws/

-

Today we work on the foundation for a successful e-business
(any commercial venture, to be precise).

Surprised?  Are you thinking to yourself?...

"Where's the keyboard action?" or...

"What about formatting?" or...

"No headline creation?"

Well, just like most things in life, you can't skip to the
front of the line, without some unpleasant consequences.

Great sales copy is no different.

Pro Netwriters recognize this and follow a methodical
approach in their work.  They know that each action
determines the strength of the one before and after it.

Every word-headline-sentence-paragraph has a persuasive role
to play.  And when each one is in sync, the whole sales
package becomes seamless,focused...

Powerfully persuasive.

That's why you still need your shovel.  A firm foundation is
critical for whatever actions you take from now on.

So let's go back to ground level.

--

Your business, whether it is...

o big or small,

o pioneer or mature,

o high-tech or labor-intensive,

o top-end or bargain-basement,

... depends on the perceived value of your product (or
service) by your customers.

If they do not see a benefit or "what's in it for them,"
then their relationship with you will go no further.

Your prospective customers will look elsewhere.  And your
competitors are always willing and waiting to greet them.

--

How do you prevent this?

*Know your target or ideal customer.*

He or she represents the majority of people who would be
specifically interested in your product or service.

No tire-kickers...  no curious cruisers...

... just prospects with a specific interest in your
specific business.

You have to understand their thoughts and feelings, figure
out their personality type, sense what makes them tick...

Basically, you have to get inside their heads.

Once you know your customers, you can anticipate their
wants, appeal to the right emotions and show them how your
product/service will benefit them.

We both know what happens then.  Value always outweighs
financial cost in a shopper's mind.

You make the sale!

And a satisfied customer is a lifetime customer.

--

On the Net, you don't have the luxury of face-to-face
contact or a slow pace to get to know your customers.

That's why it's critical to develop a thumbnail sketch of
your target or "ideal" customer before you begin to write
any sales copy on your Web site.

Remember your words are like a virtual salesperson, behind
the counter or stationed in the aisle.

Your sales copy has to make your "ideal customer" feel that
you are talking to her, one-on-one, welcoming her, providing
attentive service and fulfilling her wants.

You cannot write successfully unless you know her mindset.

-SIDEBAR-
Bingo!  This is one of several key points that sets MYWS!
apart from other Netwriting books.

Actually, the biggest difference about MYWS! is that it is
the ONLY copywriting book written from the ground up, purely
*FOR* the Net... and written *BY* two authors who have been
there, done that and sold the t-shirt on the Net like no one
else has.

Some books focus only on the mechanics of copywriting -- for
example, the type of words to use or the structure of the
sales message.  Other manuals rely on analyzing examples of
someone else's work.

Neither approach takes into conside

Re: calcru negative time error

2003-06-04 Thread Shane Kinney
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On Tue, 3 Jun 2003, Jimi Thompson wrote:

> http://www.FreeBSD.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/troubleshoot.html#CALCRU-NEGATIV

> That web page said to enter this command (which I do not have a good
> understanding of but did anyway)
>
> # sysctl -w kern.timecounter.method=1
>
> which I did, but apparently my 5.0 doesn't like that because it
> promptly spit back:
>
> sysctl: unknown oid 'kern.timecounter.method'

I looked at that FAQ page, and right underneath where it lists that
command it says the following:

Note: The -w option of sysctl(8) is deprecated and silently ignored in
FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE and all newer versions. You can safely ommit it when
setting options with sysctl as shown above.

I'd give it a try with out the '-w' flag.  Although I don't know if it'll fix
your issues.  Just maybe a step in the right direction.

> Thanks,
> Ms. Jimi Thompson, CISSP, Rev.

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calcru negative time error

2003-06-04 Thread Jimi Thompson
Please cc me on all replies as I am not subscribed to the list.  The 
machine in question is running FreeBSD 5.0 Stable. 

Before anyone tells me to RTFM, I did read the FAQ which pointed me 
to this item on the freebsd site: 
http://www.FreeBSD.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/troubleshoot.html#CALCRU-NEGATIV

That web page said to enter this command (which I do not have a good 
understanding of but did anyway)

# sysctl -w kern.timecounter.method=1

which I did, but apparently my 5.0 doesn't like that because it 
promptly spit back:

sysctl: unknown oid 'kern.timecounter.method'

1) Is there another similar command that will do the same thing?
2) Will this stop the error messages?
3) Will this break anything else?
Since the command given doesn't work, I'm not really sure what do 
next.  The web page says that if this command doesn't solve the 
problem that you should "set the NTIMECOUNTER option in your kernel 
to increasingly large values" but offers absolutely no information on 
how to proceed to do this. 

1) Will this make the errors stop?
2) Will this break anything else?
3) Where are the directions on setting the NTIMECOUNTER option?
In all honesty, I have have never tinkered with my kernel.  It works 
and it is stable so I leave it alone.  I know that the calcru error 
messages are pesky, but the machine doesn't seem to be having any 
problems.  It's logs are normal, I ran top and that looks good,  it's 
been up for months with out any apparent issues.  I'm rather tempted 
just to leave it and ignore the errors.  I keep hearing my Dad's 
voice "If it ain't broke."

Any help appreciated. 

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Thanks,
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governed by those who are dumber." --Plato

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Mount question

2003-06-04 Thread Jon Reynolds
 How do I issue the 'mount' command so that I can tell it the uid an gid
of the newly mounted filesystem?
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Re: hcl

2003-06-04 Thread Chris
On Tuesday 03 June 2003 11:22 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Can you give me a link to the latest and best Hardware Compatibility List.

http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.8R/hardware.html


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hcl

2003-06-04 Thread Lemerondc4
Can you give me a link to the latest and best Hardware Compatibility List.
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Re: How to configure Wireless access with WEP on a laptop AND use DHCPin/etc/rc.conf

2003-06-04 Thread Christian Sauer

John Merryweather Cooper said:
[- snip -]
>
> So, currently, my configuration line looks like:
>
> ifconfig_wi0="inet 10.0.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 ssid some-ssid wepmode
> on wepkey some-128-bit-key"
>

put the "ifconfig wi0 ssid some-ssid wepmode on wepkey some-128-bit-key"
command into /etc/start_if.wi0

> And it works fine, provided I run dhclient manually.  But I can't just
> replace the dummies with DHCP (been there, it doesn't work).

and then in /etc/rc.conf, you can go back to ifconfig_wi0="dhcp"

> How should I do this?
>
> jmc
>

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Re: 4.8 stable make installworld problems

2003-06-04 Thread supote
> Hello,

> I've CVSuped to 4.8-STABLE  a day ago, did buildworld, > > 
buildkernel and
> installkernel   without   any  problems,  but  when  I  tried  to  do
> installworld I've got the following:

> [...]

What is CVS tag you cvsed ? Letting others know you may get
the answer faster.



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How to configure Wireless access with WEP on a laptop AND use DHCPin/etc/rc.conf

2003-06-04 Thread John Merryweather Cooper
I've discovered the wonderful world of wireless Internet access on my
FreeBSD laptop (an IBM Thinkpad 380XD running 4.8-STABLE), but I have a
problem.  Configuring the interface to do both DHCP and initialize with
all the WEP parameters seems to be mutually exclusive.

I've worked around it by putting in a dummy static IP and netmask and
then running dhclient wi0 manually, but I'd prefer to automate things
somewhat so that when wi0 comes up (I put the PC Card in) it initializes
with the WEP stuff AND does DHCP.

So, currently, my configuration line looks like:

ifconfig_wi0="inet 10.0.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 ssid some-ssid wepmode
on wepkey some-128-bit-key"

And it works fine, provided I run dhclient manually.  But I can't just
replace the dummies with DHCP (been there, it doesn't work).

How should I do this?

jmc



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An app like MS Publisher

2003-06-04 Thread Chris
Hiya folks - Do we have an app that is like MS Publisher? I know we have an 
Office Suite with OpenOffice, just wondering if we have something that can do 
desktop publishing.

Chris
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Re: Multicast Routing Performance

2003-06-04 Thread Olivier Nicole
> Does any one have any experience of using a FreeBSD
> Box as a multicast router?
> 
> I have a PIII 800Mhz with two 100Mbps NICS, what kind
> of throughput can I expect to get out of this setup?

We have been doing that for years.

But don't expect too much speed with a PIII 800, we usually have
something like 10Mbps brust traffic.

Olivier
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Re: dot.bashrc, where is it?

2003-06-04 Thread Jim Trigg
On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 04:04:53PM +0200, Didier Wiroth wrote:
> 
> I'm asking because I'm reading "The Complete Freebsd, 4th Edition" book, at
> page 94 "Changing the default shell for root" there is a comment:
> "After installation, you may want to change the default shell... Bash... If
> you have installed instant-workstation, you should copy the file
> /usr/share/skel/dot.bashrc to root's home directroy and call..."
> 
> I had a look at the Makefile of the /usr/ports/misc/instant-workstation
> port. I can't figure out where or how this file (dot.bashrc) could have been
> installed from this port?! I have the bash2 shell pkg/port installed and in
> my mind, this is the only port where the dot.bashrc file could be installed,
> but this isn't obviously the case. 

instant-workstation is a meta-port that causes other ports, including bash2,
to be installed.

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RE: sendmail AUTH_OPTIONS

2003-06-04 Thread Scott Hiemstra
Noah,

I'm no sendmail expert, I prefer qmail myself but with some creative
googling I found this which I believe will answer your question.

http://www.sendmail.org/m4/tweaking_config.html#confAUTH_OPTIONS

Scott



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Subject: sendmail AUTH_OPTIONS



Hi,

okay I am going around in circles and not able to find a link which
describes
the AUTH_OPTIONS definitions in the .mc file.

I want to know what the A and p mean?  and verify that my syntax is correct.

--- from sendmail.mc file ---

define(`confAUTH_OPTIONS', `A p')dnl




Thanks in advance,
- Noah

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Re: can't boot from 4.8-RELEASE distribution CD (and 5.1-BETA2)

2003-06-04 Thread Guy Middleton
I found the problem; it only occurs if I try to boot with my Palm cradle
attached to COM1.  Remove it, and everything works fine.

On Fri, May 30, 2003 at 11:20:27PM -0400, Guy Middleton wrote:
> I'm posting a follup to -current, since I get a similar but different problem
> with the 5.1-BETA2 CD.
> 
> With 5.1-BETA2, the boot gets a far as the "Probing devices, please wait"
> message, then hangs.  The last debug output on the console is:
> 
> 
> DEBUG: Loading module if_sf.ko (Adaptec AIC-6915 PCI ethernet card)
> module_register: module pci/sf already exists!
> Module pci/sf failed to register: 17
> module_register: module sf/miibus already exists!
> Module sf/miibus failed to register: 17
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, May 30, 2003 at 09:23:25PM -0400, Guy Middleton wrote:
> > I have a FreeBSD 4.1 system, which I am trying to upgrade to 4.8-RELEASE.
> > 
> > Unfortunately, it can't boot from the 4.8 distribution CD.  When the
> > generic kernel boots, it hangs indefinitely after finding plip0.
> > 
> > I have also tried the 4.3 and 4.7 CDs, the same thing happens with them.
> > So something changed betweek 4.1 and 4.3 (I don't have a 4.2 CD to try).
> > Anybody have any ideas?
> > 
> > Here is dmesg output, on the system as booted with 4.1-RELEASE:
> > 
> > 
> > Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project.
> > Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
> > The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
> > FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE #0: Fri Jul 28 14:30:31 GMT 2000
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC
> > Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
> > CPU: Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon/Celeron (451.03-MHz 686-class CPU)
> >   Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x672  Stepping = 2
> >   
> > Features=0x383f9ff
> > real memory  = 134205440 (131060K bytes)
> > avail memory = 126386176 (123424K bytes)
> > Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc040d000.
> > Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled
> > md0: Malloc disk
> > npx0:  on motherboard
> > npx0: INT 16 interface
> > pcib0:  on motherboard
> > pci0:  on pcib0
> > pcib1:  at device 1.0 on pci0
> > pci1:  on pcib1
> > pci1: <3Dfx Voodoo 3 graphics accelerator> at 0.0 irq 11
> > isab0:  at device 4.0 on pci0
> > isa0:  on isab0
> > atapci0:  port 0xb800-0xb80f at device 4.1 on pci0
> > ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0
> > ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0
> > uhci0:  port 0xb400-0xb41f at device 4.2 
> > on pci0
> > uhci0: Invalid irq 255
> > uhci0: Please switch on USB support and switch PNP-OS to 'No' in BIOS
> > device_probe_and_attach: uhci0 attach returned 6
> > chip1:  port 0xe800-0xe80f at device 
> > 4.3 on pci0
> > ahc0:  port 0xb000-0xb0ff mem 
> > 0xdd80-0xdd800fff irq 9 at device 6.0 on pci0
> > ahc0: aic7890/91 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs
> > fxp0:  port 0xa800-0xa81f mem 
> > 0xdd00-0xdd0f,0xe100-0xe1000fff irq 5 at device 7.0 on pci0
> > fxp0: Ethernet address 00:e0:18:98:3b:2f
> > pci0:  (vendor=0x1274, dev=0x5000) at 10.0 irq 5
> > dc0: <82c169 PNIC 10/100BaseTX> port 0xa000-0xa0ff mem 0xdc80-0xdc8000ff irq 
> > 10 at device 11.0 on pci0
> > dc0: Ethernet address: 00:a0:cc:3b:f9:c4
> > miibus0:  on dc0
> > ukphy0:  on miibus0
> > ukphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
> > fdc0:  at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0
> > fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold
> > fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0
> > atkbdc0:  at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0
> > atkbd0:  flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0
> > kbd0 at atkbd0
> > psm0:  irq 12 on atkbdc0
> > psm0: model MouseMan+, device ID 0
> > vga0:  at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa-0xb on isa0
> > sc0:  at flags 0x100 on isa0
> > sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300>
> > sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0
> > sio0: type 16550A
> > sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0
> > sio1: type 16550A
> > ppc0:  at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0
> > ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode
> > ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/9 bytes threshold
> > ppi0:  on ppbus0
> > lpt0:  on ppbus0
> > lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
> > plip0:  on ppbus0
> > acd0: CDROM  at ata0-master using PIO4
> > afd0: 239MB  [239/64/32] at ata1-master using PIO3
> > Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle
> > Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da0s2a
> > cd0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 3 lun 0
> > cd0:  Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device 
> > cd0: 8.333MB/s transfers (8.333MHz, offset 31)
> > cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present - tray 
> > closed
> > da1 at ahc0 bus 0 target 5 lun 0
> > da1:  Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device 
> > da1: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled
> > da1: 4357MB (8925000 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 555C)
> > da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 4 lun 0
> > da0:  Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device 
> > da0: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled
> > da0: 4357MB (8925000 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 555C)

sendmail AUTH_OPTIONS

2003-06-04 Thread admin

Hi,

okay I am going around in circles and not able to find a link which describes
the AUTH_OPTIONS definitions in the .mc file.

I want to know what the A and p mean?  and verify that my syntax is correct.

--- from sendmail.mc file ---

define(`confAUTH_OPTIONS', `A p')dnl

 


Thanks in advance,
- Noah

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Re: FreeBSD and Promise PDC20276

2003-06-04 Thread Marko Djukic
great, thanks for the help!

cc-ing the list just to leave a trace for others in my footsteps...

marko


Quoting Josh Paetzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 01:09:38AM +0200, Marko Djukic wrote:
> > thanks for the blazing response! :)
> >
> > so i can comment out all the raid controllers in the kernel config?
> >
> > m.
>
> Yes.  The only thing you need are the ata drivers, which you need anywys for
> regular controllers.
>
> Josh
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ('tty') /home/jpaetzel -> dmesg |grep ata
> atapci0:  port
> 0xd800-0xd80f,0xdc00-0xdc03,0xe000-0xe007,0xe400-0xe403,0xe800-0xe807 mem
> 0xdfffc000-0xdfff irq 10 at device 15.0 on pci0
> ata2: at 0xe800 on atapci0
> ata3: at 0xe000 on atapci0
> atapci1:  port 0xfc00-0xfc0f at device 17.1 on
> pci0
> ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci1
> ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci1
>
> There's the controllers.
>
>  dmesg |grep ar
> ar0: 152638MB  [19458/255/63] status: READY subdisks:
>
> ANd there's the RAID array.
>
> Josh
>
> >
> > Quoting Josh Paetzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > > On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 12:57:50AM +0200, Marko Djukic wrote:
> > > > hi,
> > > >
> > > > anything particular that needs to be set in the kernel config to get
> the
> > > > PDC20276 raid to work?
> > > >
> > > > thanks,
> > > >
> > > > marko
> > >
> > > Nope.  The ata driver detects it as ar0 automagically.
> > >
> > > Josh
> > >
> >
>


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Re: secure SMTP and cygnus-sasl handling

2003-06-04 Thread Chuck Swiger
admin wrote:
Sendmail will do STARTTLS if both sides support it, and you can even 
configure things to not permit plain text authentication (AUTH LOGIN)
unless TLS/SSL has been negotiated.
is there a way to do something similar with POP so it does not handle non-SSL
negotiated sessions?
I'm not sure about POP, but yes for IMAP; see /usr/ports/mail/imap-uw, which 
does include a POP3 server as well.

[ ...and in another email... ]
>> Sendmail will do STARTTLS if both sides support it, and you can even
>> configure things to not permit plain text authentication (AUTH LOGIN)
>> unless TLS/SSL has been negotiated.
>
> this is the answer.  can you point me to someplace on how to do this?
http://www.sendmail.org/~ca/email/auth.html
http://www.sendmail.org/~ca/email/starttls.html
-Chuck

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Re: FreeBSD and Promise PDC20276

2003-06-04 Thread Marko Djukic
hi,

anything particular that needs to be set in the kernel config to get the
PDC20276 raid to work?

thanks,

marko
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Re: Apache - mod_perl - PostgreSQL

2003-06-04 Thread Patrick O'Reilly
From: "Kliment Ognianov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Hi all!
> > I did the portupgrade of postgresql 7.3.2 -> 7.3.3 this morning.
> > Since then my mod_perl web pages will not talk to the databases.
> >
> Update DBD::Pg through CPAN shell
>

Thanks Kliment.

Actually, I am using the Pg module, not DBD::Pg, nor DBI.  As far as I
can tell, anyways.  I'm no expert on the intricacies of perl modules.

As far as I can see on CPAN, Pg has not changed since April 2000.
Perhaps it does not work with the new PostgreSQL?

Should I change my code to use DBD::Pg instead?

Regards,
Patrick.

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Locking down secondary mx sendmail

2003-06-04 Thread Doug Silver
It seems the spammers like to target secondary mx machines and let those 
machines relay the email to the primary machine.  I've tried setting up the 
virtusertable file to at least reject invalid emails on the secondary mx 
machine, but it seems that sendmail bypasses that when it's doing mx relaying 
for that domain.  So, does anyone have some suggestions to partially lock 
down mx relay machines?

TIA

-doug
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Re: Awfully OT Question.

2003-06-04 Thread Mario Lobo
-- 
   //|  //||
  // | // ||
Thanks Matt and Frank for responding.

The reason I asked is because ALSA includes my ECHO GINA audio card on its list 
of compatible devices and I can't find a way to make it work on FreeBSD. 

I have an extra PCI audio card that IS working but I was just trying for a 
higher end audio so I could run one of multitrack recording software. I love 
FreeBSD too much to switch it for linux for any reason. 

I'll just keep using "wishndows" until FreeBSD becomes the best and most stable 
OS for professional audio recording.

Best wishes,

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  // | // ||
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> 
> This was brought up a while ago (check the archives.)
> 
> The answer was "porting ALSA to FreeBSD would be a bad idea", mainly
> becaue the sound system architecture that we have is much better than
> ALSA.
> 
> Please refer to the archives for more details.
> 
> 
> On Tue, 3 Jun 2003, Frank J. Cameron wrote:
> 
> > FYI, There is a general questions list at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > I actually know nothing about this; but, I would be  surprised if this
> > was possible.  FreeBSD does have its own driver pcm.  Add "device pcm"
> > to your kernel config and reboot; it usually works pretty well for plug
> > and play cards (though I've never tried anything high-end or exotic).
> >
> > -frank
> >
> > On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 15:56, Mario Lobo wrote:
> > > Please forgive me for this terribly off-topic question but could anyone 
on this
> > > list point to me the proper direction on info to get the ALSA sound 
driver to
> > > work under FreeBSD (if that is at all possible!!)? I figured there are 
many
> > > kernel experts here who would an idea about this.
> > >
> > > I looked in the FreeBSD and ALSA sites and there is no mention of each 
other on
> > > neither.
> > >
> > > Again, sorry and Thanks!
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Re: secure SMTP and cygnus-sasl handling

2003-06-04 Thread admin

> 
> > are there other applications that I need to consider here?
> 
> Sendmail will do STARTTLS if both sides support it, and you can even 
> configure things to not permit plain text authentication (AUTH LOGIN)
>  unless TLS/SSL has been negotiated.


Hi,

is there a way to do something similar with POP so it does not handle non-SSL
negotiated sessions?

- Noah



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Re: secure SMTP and cygnus-sasl handling

2003-06-04 Thread admin

Hi,

also instead of cyrus-sasl I am now using DRACd.  so I placed the IP address
of 255.255.255.255 127.0.0.1 in the /etc/mail/dracd.allow file.

> Have a firewall block port 25 to this mail server, and only permit 
> the users to talk to 465.  Of course, you are running stunnel on the 
> mail server or it's local network, right?


okay this is a public port 25.

> 
> > are there other applications that I need to consider here?
> 
> Sendmail will do STARTTLS if both sides support it, and you can even 
> configure things to not permit plain text authentication (AUTH LOGIN)
>  unless TLS/SSL has been negotiated.


this is the answer.  can you point me to someplace on how to do this?

- Noah



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Re: multiple nics not a gateway

2003-06-04 Thread K Anderson


WAT Engineering wrote:
When installing 2 nics on a box, only the nic entry lowest in rc.conf seems
to be available to network services.any ideas on thisusing the
GENERIC kernal
Cary Woods
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Are there any error msgs in dmesg, are there any problems with the NICs, 
does ifconfig show all interfaces up and running with assigned IP 
addresses, does rc.conf have the proper syntax for the interfaces, does 
the setup of the NICS show all interfaces involved with the system?

Does a gateway show up in netstat -r, did you enable natd (if needed), 
did you enable routed (if needed), did you set up a defaultrouter in 
rc.conf, did you gateway_enable(ed) = yes in your rc.conf.

You're not giving us much to go by here.

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Re: What the simplest way to do outgoing smtp?

2003-06-04 Thread Jonathan Chen
On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 08:46:51PM +0100, philip payne wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> This is a pretty basic question so I don't mind if the answer is an RTFM
> style link. ;-)
> 
> I recently obtained some 3rd party POP3 mailboxes unrelated to my current
> ISP for email to a new domain... unfortunately my ISP's smtp server doesn't
> let me send any email addressed as anything other than it's own users, fair
> enough.
> 
> I use FreeBSD as a network gateway and IPFW device but I'm a bit of an SMTP
> novice really.
> 
> How and what can I configure to act as a sending SMTP server simply on
> FreeBSD?

The default FreeBSD installation alreay has sendmail running, and
that's usually enough to handle outgoing mail. This means you can just
configure your mail-client to use "localhost" as your SMTP server;
problems may arise if the receiving SMTP servers have recipient checks
on incoming IP-address (eg: the FreeBSD lists' SMTP servers).

Give it a go and see what happens.

Cheers.
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Re: natd and logging

2003-06-04 Thread Ruslan Ermilov
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On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 01:48:57PM -0700, Sean Murphy wrote:
> I have setup natd, enabled logging with -l and it is working 
> perfectly.  However is there a more detailed log to see the translation 
> tables.  I need to log the ipaddress internal 172.*.*.* to the outside with 
> what port is being used.  natd just seems to log the statistics such as 
> icmp=5 and so on.  If natd does not have this function what does?
> 
You can have it run in the -verbose mode; that will show all
the alterations it's doing.  The output is to standard output,
please refer to the natd(8) manpage for details.


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Re: secure SMTP and cygnus-sasl handling

2003-06-04 Thread Charles Swiger
On Tuesday, June 3, 2003, at 05:08 PM, admin wrote:
well I am a little new at the stunnel/secure SMTP options here so 
pardon the
simple question.  But I am reviewing all the documentation but cant 
seem to
figure out the answer here.  I am using cygnus-sasl as the method of 
SMTP
authentication.
"cyrus-sasl"...?

I am using stunnel to map from port 465 to port 25 for SMTP 
authentication.
but I want to make it so users going directly to port 25 cannot 
authenticate.
their only option is authenticate through port 465 via stunnel.
Have a firewall block port 25 to this mail server, and only permit the 
users to talk to 465.  Of course, you are running stunnel on the mail 
server or it's local network, right?

are there other applications that I need to consider here?
Sendmail will do STARTTLS if both sides support it, and you can even 
configure things to not permit plain text authentication (AUTH LOGIN) 
unless TLS/SSL has been negotiated.

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Re: multiple nics not a gateway

2003-06-04 Thread Charles Swiger
On Tuesday, June 3, 2003, at 05:13 PM, WAT Engineering wrote:
When installing 2 nics on a box, only the nic entry lowest in rc.conf 
seems
to be available to network services.any ideas on thisusing the
GENERIC kernal
What does /etc/rc.conf and ifconfig -a look like?
You should have an ifconfig_XXX line for each interface...
Are both NIC's recognized (via 'dmsg')?

-Chuck

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Re: Awfully OT Question.

2003-06-04 Thread Matthew Emmerton

This was brought up a while ago (check the archives.)

The answer was "porting ALSA to FreeBSD would be a bad idea", mainly
becaue the sound system architecture that we have is much better than
ALSA.

Please refer to the archives for more details.


On Tue, 3 Jun 2003, Frank J. Cameron wrote:

> FYI, There is a general questions list at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> I actually know nothing about this; but, I would be  surprised if this
> was possible.  FreeBSD does have its own driver pcm.  Add "device pcm"
> to your kernel config and reboot; it usually works pretty well for plug
> and play cards (though I've never tried anything high-end or exotic).
>
> -frank
>
> On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 15:56, Mario Lobo wrote:
> > Please forgive me for this terribly off-topic question but could anyone on this
> > list point to me the proper direction on info to get the ALSA sound driver to
> > work under FreeBSD (if that is at all possible!!)? I figured there are many
> > kernel experts here who would an idea about this.
> >
> > I looked in the FreeBSD and ALSA sites and there is no mention of each other on
> > neither.
> >
> > Again, sorry and Thanks!
> --
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> Concurrent Technologies Corp.
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secure SMTP and cygnus-sasl handling

2003-06-04 Thread admin

Hi,

well I am a little new at the stunnel/secure SMTP options here so pardon the
simple question.  But I am reviewing all the documentation but cant seem to
figure out the answer here.  I am using cygnus-sasl as the method of SMTP
authentication.

I am using stunnel to map from port 465 to port 25 for SMTP authentication.
but I want to make it so users going directly to port 25 cannot authenticate.
 their only option is authenticate through port 465 via stunnel.

are there other applications that I need to consider here?

- Noah

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multiple nics not a gateway

2003-06-04 Thread WAT Engineering
When installing 2 nics on a box, only the nic entry lowest in rc.conf seems
to be available to network services.any ideas on thisusing the
GENERIC kernal

Cary Woods
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Re: problem removing directory

2003-06-04 Thread Alex de Kruijff
On Sun, May 18, 2003 at 12:14:19PM +0100, Jez Hancock wrote:
> On Sun, May 18, 2003 at 01:02:13PM +0200, Alex de Kruijff wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I wanted to move /var/tmp to /tmp and symlink it for security reasons.
> > I move /var/tmp to /var/tmp-old and copied the files to /tmp and them 
> > symlink /var/tmp to /tmp. So far so good.
> > 
> > However, now i am unable to remove one directory and need some help in
> > removing this.
> > 
> > Intranet# ll
> > total 1
> > dr-xr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Mar 16 22:04 empty/
> > Intranet# pwd
> > /var/tmp-old/temproot/var
> > Intranet# ll
> > total 1
> > dr-xr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Mar 16 22:04 empty/
> > Intranet# rm -rf *
> Try:
> chflags -R noschg * in /var/tmp/

Tanks that did it.


> 
> Presumably you ran mergemaster at some point which creates the
> /var/tmp/temproot hierarchy and sets some system 'immutable' flags on
> some of the files in there to stop them being modified.  Running
> 'chflags noschg' removes the immutable flag.

Yes I did.

Tanks again,
Alex
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Re: secure pop server

2003-06-04 Thread Alex de Kruijff
On Fri, May 30, 2003 at 02:52:06PM +0700, Olivier Nicole wrote:
> > yeah lets get some details in there.  the users of this application are
> > windows outlook users wanting to download their email while they travel - so I
> > think my options are to go for mbox support, no?
> 
> That is unrelated. This is a matter of choice, whether your MDA does
> mbox or maildir (are all the email in INBOX kept in one single file -
> /var/mail/username of in a directory /var/mail/username/filename)

Both mbox and maildir have there strengts and weekness.

mbox is good at saving space, but bad at removing *one* mail at a time.
maildir is bat at saving space but good at removing *one* mail at a time.

If you expect your user to remove mail one by one then go with maildir,
otherwise go with mbox. What is more inportaint perfomance or saving 
space? (If you user though away there mail after recieving it all, 
then maildir sould decrease you performance. Since it hase to remove 
a large number of files, instead of just one.)

Alex
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Re: cvsup collection question

2003-06-04 Thread Alex de Kruijff
On Fri, May 30, 2003 at 11:57:47AM +0100, Tom Stockton wrote:
> Apologies for stupidity, I've read the documentation a million times and 
> I've got a headache.
> 
> I've installed 4.7 release from an ftp server, I want to get the latest 
> ports collection to match this release.  It looks like I want to specify 
> 'ports-all' in my cvsup file, however a note in the documentation says that

The ports that fit almost perfectly is included at the install. Updating 
it with cvsup almost certainly increase the number of non working ports 
a bit.

> 
> "The ports tree does not have any tag associated with it, it is always 
> CURRENT."
> 
> I dont like the look of this...I'd like to specify the tag RELENG_4_7 but 
> this note seems to make that redundant ?

If you like a port system a little more up to date and with a little 
more efford of making it work you souldn't use cvsup. You could 
download the ports that are included with the release 4.8. This can be 
downloaded without downloading FreeBSD 4.8. Goto 
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD then go to releases and look for,
i don't know the exact location, something like ports-4.8.tgz

> 
> Also what is the src-all collection ?  How does it differ from ports-all ?

src-all gets you the freebsd sources. Thease do come in a stable versions. 
Aka -> The FreeBSD OS.

ports-all gets you the ports source. Aka the extra application you can
install.

doc-all gets you the documentation.
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send-pr problem (DNS related)

2003-06-04 Thread Alex de Kruijff
Hi all,

I have been trying to send a pr but have some thouble with this. 
The problem is that i am on a private lan and have a hostname 
that only exist on that lan. Sending mail with sendmail or mutt is not 
a problem because of the -f option. I seem to be unable to give my 
mail adres like i can with these two.

Any help is welcome,
Alex
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Re: Awfully OT Question.

2003-06-04 Thread Frank J. Cameron
FYI, There is a general questions list at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I actually know nothing about this; but, I would be  surprised if this
was possible.  FreeBSD does have its own driver pcm.  Add "device pcm"
to your kernel config and reboot; it usually works pretty well for plug
and play cards (though I've never tried anything high-end or exotic).

-frank

On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 15:56, Mario Lobo wrote:
> Please forgive me for this terribly off-topic question but could anyone on this 
> list point to me the proper direction on info to get the ALSA sound driver to 
> work under FreeBSD (if that is at all possible!!)? I figured there are many 
> kernel experts here who would an idea about this.
> 
> I looked in the FreeBSD and ALSA sites and there is no mention of each other on 
> neither.
> 
> Again, sorry and Thanks!
-- 
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Re: / is filling up

2003-06-04 Thread Zev Thompson
The usual solution I use would be (starting in the root directory) "du -kx 
| sort -n". The x flag prevents crossing partitions when doing the 
recursive analysis that du is meant to do, while the k flag makes the 
output in kilobytes. I like this command enough that I have a shortcut to 
it in my .bashrc called "dk". Check the man page for du for other options 
if you want. Hope this helps.

Zev

My / partition is getting pretty full, 92%. Usually the culprit is something
I'm not rotating in /var/log, but that's not the case this time. Does anyone
have any suggestions to find out where this is? I'm guessing it's probably
something using ls and sort but I'll be damned if I can put something
together that helps this problem.
David Daugherty

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Re: What the simplest way to do outgoing smtp?

2003-06-04 Thread Adam
On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 15:46, philip payne wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> This is a pretty basic question so I don't mind if the answer is an RTFM
> style link. ;-)
> 
> I recently obtained some 3rd party POP3 mailboxes unrelated to my current
> ISP for email to a new domain... unfortunately my ISP's smtp server doesn't
> let me send any email addressed as anything other than it's own users, fair
> enough.
> 
> I use FreeBSD as a network gateway and IPFW device but I'm a bit of an SMTP
> novice really.
> 
> How and what can I configure to act as a sending SMTP server simply on
> FreeBSD?
> 
> I don't need to receive email, the 3rd party will do that and host the POP3
> collection, but I need to be able to send email locally via something other
> than my ISP's smtp server.
> 
> The reason I want to do it this way is that the IP address of my FreeBSD box
> is DHCP and subject to change, so it isn't suitable as the primary MX record
> for the new domain.

The absolute EASIEST way to set up SMTP is to use sSMTP .. It might be
too simplistic for you, but in many cases it is sufficient for someone
who only needs a barebones SMTP solution.

http://packages.debian.org/testing/mail/ssmtp.html
ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/mail/mta/


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Re: GKellM + Mount

2003-06-04 Thread Konrad Scorciapino
Hi,

I've tried changing the theme, but it just doesn't work. It usually can mount 
the devices, but it can't unmount them.

I get error messages like "mount_cd9660: /dev/acd0c: Device busy", so I guess 
it "doesn't know" whether the CD is actually mounted or not.

Any idea?

Thanks

On Tuesday 03 June 2003 15:49, you wrote:
> I certainly have, I use it all the time.
> I just put the ordinary mount command that you would normally type in your
> shell...
> Something like
> # mount_cd9660 /dev/cd0c /mnt/cdrom
> for mounting my DVD and
> # umount /mnt/cdrom
> for unmounting it.
>
> If it works in your shell, but not in gkrellm, try changing the theme on
> gkrellm.
> I know it sounds wierd, but I had it all working, changed the theme... drop
> dead!
> Changed it back, and its as smooth as ever. Try fiddling around.
>
> /Jalle

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What the simplest way to do outgoing smtp?

2003-06-04 Thread philip payne
Hi,

This is a pretty basic question so I don't mind if the answer is an RTFM
style link. ;-)

I recently obtained some 3rd party POP3 mailboxes unrelated to my current
ISP for email to a new domain... unfortunately my ISP's smtp server doesn't
let me send any email addressed as anything other than it's own users, fair
enough.

I use FreeBSD as a network gateway and IPFW device but I'm a bit of an SMTP
novice really.

How and what can I configure to act as a sending SMTP server simply on
FreeBSD?

I don't need to receive email, the 3rd party will do that and host the POP3
collection, but I need to be able to send email locally via something other
than my ISP's smtp server.

The reason I want to do it this way is that the IP address of my FreeBSD box
is DHCP and subject to change, so it isn't suitable as the primary MX record
for the new domain.

Thanks muchly,

Phil.

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multiple comtrol rockport cards with freebsd 4-5-STABLE

2003-06-04 Thread Mark Malko

I am trying to get 2 comtrol rocketport pci cards to work in a compaq dl360 server.  I 
cannot address the 2nd card.  I keep on reading about patches to get the 2nd card to 
work, but i have been unable to find the fix.

Can anyone tell me where these patches exist?  or am i forced to upgrade to 5.x?

any information would be greatly appreciated!

thanks
mark

Mark Malko
Research In Motion 
519-888-7465 ext 5763
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PS2 Mouse

2003-06-04 Thread Lucelio D. Nascimento
   Hi, I was trying the FreeBSD 5.0 and the installation was perfect, but,
when I tried to run the Gnome, my mouse didn't work. Here is the
configuration of my machine:
Intel Pentium 4 - 1.6 GHz / 256 MB RAM / HD: 20 GB. The motherboard is a
Intel 845HV, so, I don't know if there is a problem to work with this
Motherboard. I tried to use a serial mouse but the problem was the same. I
used the sysinstall to configure it. Is there another form to work with this
machine?
   Please, Do not try to contact me by phone because i'm in Brazil.




Thanks a lot.

Lucélio D. Nascimento
SI Training Solution
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Re: / is filling up

2003-06-04 Thread Simon Barner
> My / partition is getting pretty full, 92%. Usually the culprit is something
> I'm not rotating in /var/log, but that's not the case this time. Does anyone
> have any suggestions to find out where this is? I'm guessing it's probably
> something using ls and sort but I'll be damned if I can put something
> together that helps this problem.

   cd /
   du -xh -d 2

will print out the usage stats for everything that is in the /-partition
(mount points are not traversed). If you want to see more that 2 levels,
you can modify the command appropriately.

I usually use
   du -xh -d 2 | grep M
and
   du -xh -d 2 | grep G
   
to see directories that take more than 1 mega (giga) byte of space
(although these commands will print directories with an 'M' ('G') in
their names, too.

Simon


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Re: GKellM + Mount

2003-06-04 Thread Jalle
I certainly have, I use it all the time.
I just put the ordinary mount command that you would normally type in your 
shell...
Something like
# mount_cd9660 /dev/cd0c /mnt/cdrom
for mounting my DVD and
# umount /mnt/cdrom
for unmounting it.

If it works in your shell, but not in gkrellm, try changing the theme on 
gkrellm.
I know it sounds wierd, but I had it all working, changed the theme... drop 
dead!
Changed it back, and its as smooth as ever. Try fiddling around.

/Jalle

At 12:33 2003-06-03 -0300, Konrad Scorciapino wrote:
Hello,

Has anyone had any sucess with GKrellM's mount function? If so, what have you
set in the configuration file?
Thanks!

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RE: / is filling up

2003-06-04 Thread Barry Byrne
David:

du -x -d N /

where N is the number of levels deep you want to see.

 - Barry

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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Daugherty

> My / partition is getting pretty full, 92%. Usually the culprit
> is something
> I'm not rotating in /var/log, but that's not the case this time.
> Does anyone
> have any suggestions to find out where this is? I'm guessing it's probably
> something using ls and sort but I'll be damned if I can put something
> together that helps this problem.
>

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Re: / is filling up

2003-06-04 Thread Jerry McAllister
> 
> My / partition is getting pretty full, 92%. Usually the culprit is something
> I'm not rotating in /var/log, but that's not the case this time. Does anyone
> have any suggestions to find out where this is? I'm guessing it's probably
> something using ls and sort but I'll be damned if I can put something
> together that helps this problem.

What have you tried?
Usually I use successive runs of  du(1)  to track down overfilling culprits.
Are you familiar with that?
CD to your root (/)
run   du -sk *
cd in to any suspiciously large directories and do another du, etc.

By the way, I think it is good practice to make a separate file
system for things like /var/log /var/spool and others that can 
fill up suddenly when you aren't looking.   That way they won't
trash the root file system and bring the system down (so easily).

jerry

> 
> David Daugherty
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Re: / is filling up

2003-06-04 Thread Miguel Mendez
On Tue, 3 Jun 2003 11:07:36 -0700
"David Daugherty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Howdy,

> My / partition is getting pretty full, 92%. Usually the culprit is
> something I'm not rotating in /var/log, but that's not the case this
> time. Does anyone have any suggestions to find out where this is? I'm
> guessing it's probably something using ls and sort but I'll be damned
> if I can put something together that helps this problem.

How about: du -h | grep "[0-9]M" | sort -r

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/ is filling up

2003-06-04 Thread David Daugherty
My / partition is getting pretty full, 92%. Usually the culprit is something
I'm not rotating in /var/log, but that's not the case this time. Does anyone
have any suggestions to find out where this is? I'm guessing it's probably
something using ls and sort but I'll be damned if I can put something
together that helps this problem.

David Daugherty

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Re: update /stand? (handbook 21.4.12)

2003-06-04 Thread Vitalis
>[about /stand/sysinstall in FreeBSD 5.X]
>
>* Vitalis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-06-02 20.56 +]:
>
>> Hi Jon,
>>
>> I've asked exactly the same question to @questions and @current 2 days ago. 
>> Unfortunately, nobody seems to have the answer...
>
>I believe it has been answered (no line-wrapping intended):
>
>http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=1782165+0+archive/2003/freebsd-current/20030601.freebsd-current;
>
>(Vitalis: The fact that you haven't seen the answer could have
>something to do with you munging your e-mail address...)
>
>Cheers,
>--
>Martin Karlsson

You're right Martin, I hadn't seen the answer. I think it is also because I had read 
them through the sol.lists.freebsd.* newsgroups with sylpheed...

And better late than never: thanks to Matthew and Michael for their answers that were 
very quick!
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apache2 ports, suexec

2003-06-04 Thread Jeff MacDonald
Hi,

I compiled apache2 like this in my ports dir [yes, my tree is up to
date]

-su-2.05b# cd /usr/ports/www/apache2/
-su-2.05b# make -DWITH_SUEXEC
-su-2.05b# cd work/httpd-2.0.46/
-su-2.05b# ./httpd -l
Compiled in modules:
  core.c
  prefork.c
  http_core.c
  mod_so.c

I notice that mod_suexec or anything suexec related does not show up,
however
the suexec binary is made correctly.

Can anyone offer some advice.

Thanks.

jeff.

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Re: Multicast Routing Performance

2003-06-04 Thread Massimiliano Stucchi
On Tue, 3 Jun 2003 14:18:25 +0100 (BST)
Gavin Kenny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Does any one have any experience of using a FreeBSD
> Box as a multicast router?
> 
> I have a PIII 800Mhz with two 100Mbps NICS, what kind
> of throughput can I expect to get out of this setup?
> 

>From my past experiences, and given a P90 with 8mb of RAM capable of
routing 4 different 2mbit lines with 4 different nicks without a glitch,
I can say that your hardware can perform up to wire's maximum capacity.
Maybe it depends on what else other than routing services you have to
run on that machine, but I don't think that would be a problem.

Ciao ciao

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Any problems using ccd with large disk ?

2003-06-04 Thread Pranav A. Desai
Hi!

  We are planning to install 6x170GB disks on our server and use ccd to
create a logging partition. Is anyone aware of any problems that might
be caused by using ccd on large disks or any other problem related to BIOS
or filesystem limitation? I would appreciate any suggestions.

Thank you for your time.

-Pranav

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Clipboard

2003-06-04 Thread Konrad Scorciapino
Hello,

The clipboard is not working properly here. The things I copy in a program 
usually can't be pasted elsewhere. I am running blackbox and using wmcliphist 
to manage the data.

What could be wrong?

Thanks!

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Re: Can you copy freebsd from one of my present machine and load itto a new

2003-06-04 Thread Jez Hancock
On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 11:52:56AM +0100, Matt Heath wrote:
> DanB wrote:
> 
> >Can you copy freebsd and its configuration from one of my present
> >machine and load it to a new machine so I can do some repairs on it.
> >Maybe copy to a CDR and boot from that.
> >
> >Dan
> > 
> >
> sure, for $500
lol

Why not just take the disks out and put them in the new machine.  If the
partitioning isn't too fancy the system should work without too much
problem.  Try doing *that* with a windows system :)
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GKellM + Mount

2003-06-04 Thread Konrad Scorciapino
Hello,

Has anyone had any sucess with GKrellM's mount function? If so, what have you 
set in the configuration file?

Thanks!

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Apache Question...

2003-06-04 Thread Peter Elsner
I presently have Apache 1.3 installed (from Ports)...

What I need is Apache 1.3 Frontpage extentions AND ssl...
So how would I go about installing both from ports without
overwriting the current settings?
There must be an easy way to do this...

Peter



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Re: Upgrading a live server with rdist

2003-06-04 Thread Konrad Heuer
On Tue, 3 Jun 2003, Chuck Swiger wrote:

> Konrad Heuer wrote:
> [ ... ]
> > As far as I see there is little chance to do this without carefully
> > restarting all processes, e.g. by shutting down into single user mode and
> > returning to multi user mode.
>
> It is advisable to switch into single-user mode when updating the system files,
> agreed.
>
> > If you replace program files and shared libraries used by currently
> > running processes, this will cause the corresponding processes to be
> > aborted abnormally in case of page fault requiring a page-in from the
> > program files or shared libraries.
>
> Generally not; the system doesn't delete files that are in use even if you
> overwrite those files: it hangs on to the inode and won't free the space until
> nobody needs that file.

Yes, that's true in general, but if you replace program files and/or
libraries needed by processes invoked before this processes WILL FAIL in
case of a page-in.  Try if you don't believe.

Regards

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RE: dot.bashrc, where is it?

2003-06-04 Thread Sondre Rønjom
On Tue, 3 Jun 2003, Didier Wiroth wrote:

> "After installation, you may want to change the default shell... Bash... If
> you have installed instant-workstation, you should copy the file
> /usr/share/skel/dot.bashrc to root's home directroy and call..."
... it '.bashrc' ?


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Re: Upgrading a live server with rdist

2003-06-04 Thread Chuck Swiger
Konrad Heuer wrote:
[ ... ]
As far as I see there is little chance to do this without carefully
restarting all processes, e.g. by shutting down into single user mode and
returning to multi user mode.
It is advisable to switch into single-user mode when updating the system files, 
agreed.

If you replace program files and shared libraries used by currently
running processes, this will cause the corresponding processes to be
aborted abnormally in case of page fault requiring a page-in from the
program files or shared libraries.
Generally not; the system doesn't delete files that are in use even if you 
overwrite those files: it hangs on to the inode and won't free the space until 
nobody needs that file.

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Re: SU not working on fresh CVSUP

2003-06-04 Thread Fernando Gleiser
On Tue, 3 Jun 2003, Mike Loiterman wrote:

>
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
>
> This is an issue for current but since I can't send to the current
> mailing list from this machine I figured I'd try here first:
>
> Just cvsup'd to current a few hours ago.  Built and installed world
> and kernel without any problems.  Now I get this error when I try to
> su :

Did you run mergemaster(8) after buildworld/installworld ?


Fer

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RE: dot.bashrc, where is it?

2003-06-04 Thread Didier Wiroth
Hi,
Thanks, I know this isn't linux!

I'm asking because I'm reading "The Complete Freebsd, 4th Edition" book, at
page 94 "Changing the default shell for root" there is a comment:
"After installation, you may want to change the default shell... Bash... If
you have installed instant-workstation, you should copy the file
/usr/share/skel/dot.bashrc to root's home directroy and call..."

I had a look at the Makefile of the /usr/ports/misc/instant-workstation
port. I can't figure out where or how this file (dot.bashrc) could have been
installed from this port?! I have the bash2 shell pkg/port installed and in
my mind, this is the only port where the dot.bashrc file could be installed,
but this isn't obviously the case. 

For a beginner (coming from a windows world) who doesn't know which shell is
better, sorry more adequate, it is easier to have a sample config file, to
start learning how to configure you shell!

Didier

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Sent: mardi 3 juin 2003 15:22
To: Didier Wiroth
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"Didier Wiroth" writes:
> Hi,
> 
> What do I have to install to have the: /usr/share/skel/dot.bashrc 
> sample file copied? Or where can I download it?
> 
> I'm running 4.8-release.
> 

There is no default .bashrc. You have to make your own. bash is optionally
installed by the user and is not part of the base system, that's why no
dot.bashrc is included with FreeBSD (this isn't Linux).

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