Urgent!!!

2004-07-10 Thread sameer jadhav
Hello
I have server 
Processor Info
Processor #1 Name: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.40GHz
which has installed FreeBSD 5.1 on it. And it has lots
of domain installed on it. From last few day i am
facing one problem, the mysql database, some table get
courrept i repair them by command repair table but
as the entry's are changed it get courrept again. Then
i use the command myisamchk --extend-check *.MYI in
/var/lib/mysql then it fix the table. What should else
i need to do for not to repeat this again 
Please help me 
It's urgent.
Thank You
Sam 




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OK i feel stupid about this noob question but....

2004-07-10 Thread Jammet
I dont know whats wrong with me but for some reason i cant add users to
my system. I go through the whole bit of adduser -s but it asks user
names must match reguilar expressions [regext]   ...  I dont even
remember that happening when i use to add users or i might just be going
insane, anyways i put in regext or the username or something but when i
finaly get through the other 4 questions on there and get to acually try
to add the user it says it must follow the expression ... I decided to
beat my head agenst my desk to see if i could knock something lose,
anyone wanna help with this? i have added users before ( back when i
first got everything installed about 2 years ago) and have not really
needed to since, but now im trying again.. 

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Newbieish Desktop Questions

2004-07-10 Thread Kristian Holdich
Hi,

I've recently installed FreeBSD 5.2.1 onto my home pc to use as a
desktop OS and am working through getting it going just right. I have
some experience with administrating earlier versions as headless servers
with 4.x and Solaris, but very little experience with multimedia. I have
a ton of little questions, and minor niggles that i'm sure could be
solved by RTFM and a lot that will be down to personal preference ;)

First up, the system is was an absolute minimal 5.2.1 install, no X, no
packages etc. First thing I did was build cvsup in ports, cvsup ports
and get portupgrade going. I've recompiled the kernel a few times tuning
it to my hardware, getting scsi support for my ide cdrw amongst other
things. I installed x.org from source and put gnome2 / gdm on top of it.
The NVIDIA drivers are running accelerated and my Aureal Vortex2 sound
card works. On top of that I have linux-flash running on Firebird 0.9.1,
Evolution as a mail client and OpenOffice.org running happily.

All in all it's working pretty good, but there are some issues :)

When i su - root, the DISPLAY doesn't seem to get set properly and root
can't open X windows, I can hack this in roots profile, but is there a
better way of doing it?

Speaking of root, i'm so used to Bash i'd like to switch to it for the
root user - is there any gotchas with moving bash to /bin and updating
/etc/shells to allow it?

More media orientated questions, when using Gentoo during bootup before
X started you could switch the console into VESA SVGA and have high
resolution, including having a graphical splash screen to obscure the
boot text before X came up - is there any way to do that.

Another thing Gentoo had was a very flashy screen for GDM, and I assume
KDM too - anyone knowof resources for doing something like that, even if
it's just clip art of Beastie.

Boot sequence, I have FreeBSD on the master drive and Win98 for gaming
on the slave drive, but the boot loader never picked up Win98 during
install what do I edit it get it to see it, or should I install an
alternative loader such as Grub?

I have my fat32 filesystem mounted at /mnt/windows:
/dev/ad1s1 /mnt/windowsmsdos   rw0  0
But it mounts 700 as root, what should I use to change it to 775
root:wheel?

Onto mplayer, got this installed with all the codecs, and installed the
skins and fonts to get it graphical, but it just wont seem to start up
with a gui, and yes i'm using gmplayer any suggestions? Another odd
thing is after it finishes playing it messes up the console and somehow
turns off local echo - anyone experienced this?

DVD playback, neither mplayer nor xine seem to recognise my dvd, i did
the kernel tweaks and devfs tweaks in the handbook:

lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  5 Jul  9 20:14 /dev/cdrom - acd0
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  3 Jul  9 20:14 /dev/dvd - acd0
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  4 Jul  9 20:14 /dev/rdvd - acd0

CDRW burning, what works well on FreeBSD? - I've been a bit spoiled by
Nero on Windows so ideally want something as hassle free as that, used
XCDRoast on Linux and it wasn't bad.

Anyway thanks in advance, no doubt more questions will come up

With Regards

Kristian



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Re: Newbieish Desktop Questions

2004-07-10 Thread arden
On Sat, 2004-07-10 at 10:03, Kristian Holdich wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I've recently installed FreeBSD 5.2.1 onto my home pc to use as a
 desktop OS and am working through getting it going just right. I have
 some experience with administrating earlier versions as headless servers
 with 4.x and Solaris, but very little experience with multimedia. I have
 a ton of little questions, and minor niggles that i'm sure could be
 solved by RTFM and a lot that will be down to personal preference ;)
 
 First up, the system is was an absolute minimal 5.2.1 install, no X, no
 packages etc. First thing I did was build cvsup in ports, cvsup ports
 and get portupgrade going. I've recompiled the kernel a few times tuning
 it to my hardware, getting scsi support for my ide cdrw amongst other
 things. I installed x.org from source and put gnome2 / gdm on top of it.
 The NVIDIA drivers are running accelerated and my Aureal Vortex2 sound
 card works. On top of that I have linux-flash running on Firebird 0.9.1,
 Evolution as a mail client and OpenOffice.org running happily.
 
 All in all it's working pretty good, but there are some issues :)
 
 When i su - root, the DISPLAY doesn't seem to get set properly and root
 can't open X windows, I can hack this in roots profile, but is there a
 better way of doing it?
 
 Speaking of root, i'm so used to Bash i'd like to switch to it for the
 root user - is there any gotchas with moving bash to /bin and updating
 /etc/shells to allow it?
 
 More media orientated questions, when using Gentoo during bootup before
 X started you could switch the console into VESA SVGA and have high
 resolution, including having a graphical splash screen to obscure the
 boot text before X came up - is there any way to do that.
 
 Another thing Gentoo had was a very flashy screen for GDM, and I assume
 KDM too - anyone knowof resources for doing something like that, even if
 it's just clip art of Beastie.
 
 Boot sequence, I have FreeBSD on the master drive and Win98 for gaming
 on the slave drive, but the boot loader never picked up Win98 during
 install what do I edit it get it to see it, or should I install an
 alternative loader such as Grub?
 
 I have my fat32 filesystem mounted at /mnt/windows:
 /dev/ad1s1 /mnt/windowsmsdos   rw0  0
 But it mounts 700 as root, what should I use to change it to 775
 root:wheel?
 
 Onto mplayer, got this installed with all the codecs, and installed the
 skins and fonts to get it graphical, but it just wont seem to start up
 with a gui, and yes i'm using gmplayer any suggestions? Another odd
 thing is after it finishes playing it messes up the console and somehow
 turns off local echo - anyone experienced this?
 
 DVD playback, neither mplayer nor xine seem to recognise my dvd, i did
 the kernel tweaks and devfs tweaks in the handbook:
 
 lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  5 Jul  9 20:14 /dev/cdrom - acd0
 lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  3 Jul  9 20:14 /dev/dvd - acd0
 lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  4 Jul  9 20:14 /dev/rdvd - acd0
 
 CDRW burning, what works well on FreeBSD? - I've been a bit spoiled by
 Nero on Windows so ideally want something as hassle free as that, used
 XCDRoast on Linux and it wasn't bad.
http://www.freebsdsoftware.org/ports.php?c=sysutilsn=k3b
try k2b work great for me in linux 
 
 Anyway thanks in advance, no doubt more questions will come up
 
 With Regards
 
 Kristian
 
 
 
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Re: OK i feel stupid about this noob question but....

2004-07-10 Thread Alastair G. Hogge
On Saturday 10 July 2004 18:52, Jammet wrote:
 I dont know whats wrong with me but for some reason i cant add users to
 my system. I go through the whole bit of adduser -s but it asks user
 names must match reguilar expressions [regext]   ...  I dont even
 remember that happening when i use to add users or i might just be going
 insane, anyways i put in regext or the username or something but when i
 finaly get through the other 4 questions on there and get to acually try
 to add the user it says it must follow the expression ... I decided to
 beat my head agenst my desk to see if i could knock something lose,
 anyone wanna help with this? i have added users before ( back when i
 first got everything installed about 2 years ago) and have not really
 needed to since, but now im trying again..
Ummm.
Do you have a /etc/adduser file? Maybe this file is corrupt, try moving it and 
then run adduser again.

If I remember correctly the first run thru of adduser stores some settings on 
how root likes to add users, such as name limitations/expressions. Someone 
might have added an user and changed the internal settings or something.

Also try adding a user thru the sysinstall interface.

-Alastair
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Lucent LT modem under FreeBSD

2004-07-10 Thread Brenlae MacMillan
I've read that the proper drivers are in the ports collection, but
there's one big problem. The only way I'd be able to access the ports
collection is with an internet connection, and to have an internet
connection I need the Lucent winmodem drivers for FreeBSD.

I really want to install FreeBSD on my system, and have made room for
it accordingly (58 gigs of room at that).

Any help? Any download mirrors?

Anything?
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arp messages XXX is on but got reply.../multihoming problem

2004-07-10 Thread ftomlinson
WWW 08702401718 CO,UK

F TOMLISON
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Re: Sendmail upgrade advice

2004-07-10 Thread Mark
epilogue wrote:

 I have read through all the readme and install files and just can't
 seem to get any further.
 
 Any help really appreciated. I am upgrading from 8.11.6.
 
 Rob.
 
 hello rob,
 
 would sendmail 8.12.11 be enough to satisfy your upgrading needs? if
 so, no need to hassle with a manual build, because you'll find it in
 the ports tree.

More appropriately, I'd say, is that someone ports 8.13.0 -- I have been waiting for 
it, too. And I'm sure I'm not the only one.

- Mark

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ipfw and matching bridged packets with both 'xmit' and 'recv'

2004-07-10 Thread Buuyo
Hello. I have a functioning bridge set up between rl0 and rl2 on a
machine running FreeBSD 4.9, and I'd like to count tcp connections
initiated from the clients on the rl2 side to hosts on the rl0 side,
but not from the machine functioning as a bridge.

I set the sysctl values net.link.ether.ipfw and
net.link.ether.bridge_ipfw to 1, and I invisioned this ipfw command:

ipfw add 1 count tcp from any to any out recv rl2 xmit rl0 bridged setup

and, as expected, ended up with this:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ipfw show
1 0   0 count tcp from any to any out recv rl2
xmit rl0 layer2 setup
6 130074716 89026633533 allow ip from any to any
65535   252   21461 deny ip from any to any


From a client on the rl2 side of the bridge, I established a tcp
connection to a host on the rl0 side, but an ipfw show 1 revealed that
the counter hadn't been incremented.

What am I missing? I understand, based on my interpretation of the
recv | xmit | via {ifX | if* | ipno | any} section of the ipfw
manual page that you can have recv and xmit both in the same rule
provided that it's outbound. What can I do to get my desired
functionality?

Thanks.

I'm sorry, but I'm not subscribed to the freebsd-questions list. Could
you please send a carbon copy of your message to this email address?
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FreeBSD wireless difficulty

2004-07-10 Thread Douglas Korinke
Hello,

I had been having difficulty recently with getting my fbsd 4.9 machine to 
connect to my linksys home wireless router and because of the problem, had 
to upgrade to fbsd 5.2.1 and noticed more activity out of my wireless card.

The computer is a Toshiba Satellite 2405-S221 with a Avaya Wireless PCMCIA 
card using the wi drivers to run it. I'm able to associate with the router 
at home and am able to ping it without a problem but I can not browse 
webpages and the like. I also have bsd-airtools installed and have used 
dstumbler, the only problem being is that the program doesn't see my 
wireless card.

Any tips or suggestions?

Doug

ICQ : 26096369
AIM : itss0lidstate

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Re: truss command on 5.2.1-p9

2004-07-10 Thread Rajarajan Rajamani
On Thu, Jul 08, 2004 at 10:03:56AM +0300, Murat Ustuntas wrote:
 I need to truss command on FreeBSD 5.2.1-p9. But, if
 I want to run the command truss says me:
# truss /usr/sbin/sshd
truss: cannot open /proc/8668/mem: No such file or directory
truss: cannot open /proc/curproc/mem: No such file or directory
 
 sshd process is running, and in the proc directory,
 i have the number 8668 and mem too. What is the problem? How
 can I fix that? (I dont know that this is a bug or not :( )
 
I encountered the same problem some months ago and am cut pasting
from a post that proved helpful.

You don't have a process filesystem mounted on /proc.
Execute the following

kldload procfs
mount_procfs /dev/procfs /proc

--
RR
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Re: Flashplasyer plug-in for Opera

2004-07-10 Thread Arjan Van Leeuwen
On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 23:29:17 -0400, epilogue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 21:49:14 -0300
 Paulo Fonseca Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I'm trying to enable flash plug-in on freebsd 5.1 like this:
 
  1) cd /usr/ports/www/linux-flashplayer
  make install clean
  it's ok
 
  2) Tools - Preferences - Plug-ins - Change path
  the working path is: opera;
  /usr/X11R6/share/opera/plugins:/usr/local/lib/flash/
  it's fine
 
  3) when opera starts with opera -debugplugin command the message below
  occurs:
 
 judging by the command above, you're using the 'native' version of opera
 (that is to say, opera for freebsd).  is there any reason you would expect
 the LINUX-flashplayer to work?   :P
 
 try /usr/ports/www/flashpluginwrapper for the native version OR install
 /usr/ports/www/linux-opera.  either should solve your problem.

Use www/linuxpluginwrapper instead of www/flashpluginwrapper - it's
newer, better maintained and supports a newer version of the Flash
player.

That said, it doesn't work with native Opera on FreeBSD 5.x - only on
4.x. So if you want Flash in Opera on FreeBSD 5.x, use linux-opera.

Arjan
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Building stable on current or with custom kernel

2004-07-10 Thread Andrew H. Derbyshire
I have a Dell GX100 SMP PIII 733 with a 3COM Ethernet, USR PCI modem, and 2
18G SCSI disk.  After problems with running 4.9 RELEASE on it, I am
currently running 5.2.1 on the machine.  (FYI I also have a uniprocessor PII
Dell GX1 running 4.10-RELEASE-p2, which I can do a native build on.)

None of my machines have a full CVS repository, just normal source trees.  I
mention this because it appears building a install environment (CD Image)
assumes local CVS access.

I need to get a -stable kernel booting on the SMP GX100 again to determine
the exact issues; I have the second SCSI disk to install onto, but the 4.10
CD install kernel won't boot because the serial driver sees the modem, and
(lacking the PUC device in the install kernel) commandeers the IRQ.  The
machine panics from what I think is secondary damage from the IRQ being
unavailable.   Since the kernel configuration screen doesn't allow disabling
PCI devices, there is no (console) workaround.

Thus, I need to install on this machine either with a custom kernel or cross
building from the 5.2.1 installation on the other disk.Suggestions as to
how to do either?

-ahd-

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Re: FreeBSD wireless difficulty

2004-07-10 Thread Luke Kearney
On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 06:34:55 -0500
Douglas Korinke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did sit in front o' the 'puter and offer us 
these pearls of wisdom:

 Hello,
 
 I had been having difficulty recently with getting my fbsd 4.9 machine to 
 connect to my linksys home wireless router and because of the problem, had 
 to upgrade to fbsd 5.2.1 and noticed more activity out of my wireless card.
 
 The computer is a Toshiba Satellite 2405-S221 with a Avaya Wireless PCMCIA 
 card using the wi drivers to run it. I'm able to associate with the router 
 at home and am able to ping it without a problem but I can not browse 
 webpages and the like. I also have bsd-airtools installed and have used 
 dstumbler, the only problem being is that the program doesn't see my 
 wireless card.
 
 Any tips or suggestions?
 
 Doug

Just at a glance is the router actually preforming NAT for you ? Are you getting an IP 
address via DHCP or static? If you use the dstumbler command can you see your own WLAN?
First pass on your mail suggests that maybe you can connect to the network but cannot 
get out of it. Personally I use dstumbler to get the network associated then I need to 
config by hand and add a default route. I use fixed dns servers so that is never an 
issue but perhaps your situation is different. Can you talk me a bit through the steps 
you take to be able to ping your wireless router?


HTH

LukeK


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Re: Newbieish Desktop Questions

2004-07-10 Thread Kjell Midtseter
On 10 Jul 2004 at 10:03, Kristian Holdich wrote:

 Speaking of root, i'm so used to Bash i'd like to switch to it for the
 root user - is there any gotchas with moving bash to /bin and updating
 /etc/shells to allow it?
From my notes:

Use FreeBSD's password file manipulation utility, vipw, to 
modify root's default shell. At a root prompt, type vipw. A copy 
of the /etc/passwd file will be displayed. Use standard vi 
editing commands to change root's default shell from /bin/csh 
(all of the way at the end of the first line) to 
/usr/local/bin/bash. While you're already editing the file, go 
ahead and change root's unofficial name 'Charlie ' to 'Super-
Nina' or any other name that envisions Superman, etc. When you 
get mail from root (e.g. from the cron jobs that run every 
night), it'll now be maked as coming from 'Super-Nina' and not 
'Charlie '...just a little bit nicer. Save  exit. 
---
GL from kjell

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Re: Newbieish Desktop Questions

2004-07-10 Thread Kristian Holdich
On Sat, 2004-07-10 at 14:40, Kjell Midtseter wrote:
 On 10 Jul 2004 at 10:03, Kristian Holdich wrote:
 
  Speaking of root, i'm so used to Bash i'd like to switch to it for the
  root user - is there any gotchas with moving bash to /bin and updating
  /etc/shells to allow it?
 From my notes:
 
 Use FreeBSD's password file manipulation utility, vipw, to 
 modify root's default shell. At a root prompt, type vipw. A copy 
 of the /etc/passwd file will be displayed. Use standard vi 
 editing commands to change root's default shell from /bin/csh 
 (all of the way at the end of the first line) to 
 /usr/local/bin/bash. While you're already editing the file, go 
 ahead and change root's unofficial name 'Charlie ' to 'Super-
 Nina' or any other name that envisions Superman, etc. When you 
 get mail from root (e.g. from the cron jobs that run every 
 night), it'll now be maked as coming from 'Super-Nina' and not 
 'Charlie '...just a little bit nicer. Save  exit. 
 ---
 GL from kjell
 

There's one glaring problem with that, if for some reason you need to go
into single user mode under FreeBSD's default slicing scheme root wont
have a shell as /usr isn't mounted. It's always good practice to keep
the shell root uses in /sbin or /bin.

You can change the shell root, or any other user uses by using chpass
also, and so long as the shell is in /etc/shells it will be valid.

I was actually more interested in understanding whether any critical
scripts would start barfing if the shell got changed, I know on Solaris
I got into the habit of keeping root using /sbin/sh.

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Re: Mouse in X

2004-07-10 Thread Lee Harr
I have set FBSD up on an old pentium II MMX 233 MHZ machine and everything 
works fine except for the mouse (serial). When using X the mouse behaves 
crazy i cant get it to move in any useful way.

Ive checked and checked and found: edit /etc/XF86Config and
set Protocol to Sysmouse and Device to /dev/sysmouse but this does not 
work- any suggestions ?


What exactly does the Section InputDevice for the mouse say?
Are you running moused?
I never had much luck using moused and using the mouse in X.
Try stopping moused and using protocol auto.
The device would be /dev/cuaa0  or  /dev/cuaa1.
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Re: clearing a drive

2004-07-10 Thread Lee Harr
I've got a corrupted drive which i am unable now to clear. Whenever i
try to fdisk it then relabel it i get an error that partition c does not
cover the entire disk and that this might interfere with system utilities.
I've tried:
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad1 bs=512 count=1
and various combinations thereof, without success.

If I have any questions about whether the disk is usable, I usually
go to the manufacturer's disk tools. Sometimes called a low level
format, or disk diagnostic.
Usually, they have a DOS based tool that you download from their
website and it will be able to test and reformat the drive.
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RE: Sendmail upgrade advice

2004-07-10 Thread Rob
Actually, I don't have access to the ports tree. This is a server owner by
the ISP and they told me I need to do my own upgrades. It is one of those
virtual servers where I have root access to my own little virtual area,
however I can't make any updates to the ports tree. So, it looks like a
manual upgrade is needed but I'm just running round in circles.

Thanks for any advice.

Rob.

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mark
Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 6:44 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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epilogue wrote:

 I have read through all the readme and install files and just can't
 seem to get any further.

 Any help really appreciated. I am upgrading from 8.11.6.

 Rob.

 hello rob,

 would sendmail 8.12.11 be enough to satisfy your upgrading needs? if
 so, no need to hassle with a manual build, because you'll find it in
 the ports tree.

More appropriately, I'd say, is that someone ports 8.13.0 -- I have been
waiting for it, too. And I'm sure I'm not the only one.

- Mark

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Re: Sendmail upgrade advice

2004-07-10 Thread cpghost
Rob wrote:
Actually, I don't have access to the ports tree. This is a server owner by
the ISP and they told me I need to do my own upgrades. It is one of those
virtual servers where I have root access to my own little virtual area,
however I can't make any updates to the ports tree. So, it looks like a
manual upgrade is needed but I'm just running round in circles.
 

If you have a regular jail(8) environment, nothing
(save insufficient disk space) prevents you from
installing your own ports tree.
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Re: FreeBSD wireless difficulty

2004-07-10 Thread Frank Staals
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Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 06:34:55 -0500
From: Douglas Korinke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: FreeBSD wireless difficulty
To: FreeBSD Help [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Content-Type: text/plain;   charset=iso-8859-1
Hello,
I had been having difficulty recently with getting my fbsd 4.9 machine to 
connect to my linksys home wireless router and because of the problem, had 
to upgrade to fbsd 5.2.1 and noticed more activity out of my wireless card.

The computer is a Toshiba Satellite 2405-S221 with a Avaya Wireless PCMCIA 
card using the wi drivers to run it. I'm able to associate with the router 
at home and am able to ping it without a problem but I can not browse 
webpages and the like. I also have bsd-airtools installed and have used 
dstumbler, the only problem being is that the program doesn't see my 
wireless card.

Any tips or suggestions?
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I don't know if the atuwi driver supports your WLAN card, but you might 
want to check it. You schould check it at www.vitsch.net/bsd/atuwi/

I hope you will be able to fix it
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Re: FreeBSD wireless difficulty

2004-07-10 Thread Chris
On Saturday 10 July 2004 10:46 am, Frank Staals wrote:
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 Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 06:34:55 -0500
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 Hello,
 
 I had been having difficulty recently with getting my fbsd 4.9 machine to
 connect to my linksys home wireless router and because of the problem, had
 to upgrade to fbsd 5.2.1 and noticed more activity out of my wireless
  card.
 
 The computer is a Toshiba Satellite 2405-S221 with a Avaya Wireless PCMCIA
 card using the wi drivers to run it. I'm able to associate with the router
 at home and am able to ping it without a problem but I can not browse
 webpages and the like. I also have bsd-airtools installed and have used
 dstumbler, the only problem being is that the program doesn't see my
 wireless card.
 
 Any tips or suggestions?
 

First and foremost, always check the FreeBSD site for hardware compatibility. 
Once that done, and your sure your pcmcia is supported, let's move on.

For me to get my NetGear working, here were my steps.

1. edit /etc/rc.conf
If static -
ifconfig_wi0=inet (some IP) netmask (some netmask)
defaultrouter=(some IP)
If dynamic -
ifconfig_wi0=DHCP
defaultrouter=(some IP)

2. Create a file in /etc called start_if.wi0
ifconfig wi0 ssid (some SSID) wepmode on wepkey 0x(some wepkey)

3. Ensure your WAP is using WEP AND if you are allowing only devices with 
added MAC addies, ensure you put in the mac addy of your wireless nic.

4. Lastly - ensure your firewall rules reflect the correct nic
IE: oif=wi0 (or whatever your variable is for the interface, if used)


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Re: Moving my Outlook PST file to any BSD E-mail client

2004-07-10 Thread Chris
On Friday 09 July 2004 05:06 pm, Steve wrote:
 arden wrote:
 this may be of interest http://outport.sourceforge.net/
 
 On Fri, 2004-07-09 at 20:50, MikeM wrote:
 On 7/9/2004 at 9:20 AM Joshua Lewis wrote:
 |Does anyone know of an e-mail client that supports importing an outlook
 |.PST file.
 |
 |If I can move my old e-mail onto my new machine then I can be done with
 |Microsoft.
 
  =
 
 
 I used Eudora (I believe there is a no-charge version) to convert the
  .pst file to mailbox format on the Windows box, then just copied the
  mailbox tree over to the destination.

 I don't know if either of these have been suggested..but they may work

 http://www.wirejunkie.com/freestuff/devout/

 http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-list/2002-April/msg00043.html


If you use KMail -
http://kmail.kde.org/tools.html

There are suggested tools to do this. Also -
make search key=pst files | more
Port:   libpst-0.4.1
Path:   /usr/ports/mail/libpst
Info:   A tool for converting Outlook .pst files to Unix mbox format
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Re: Moving my Outlook PST file to any BSD E-mail client

2004-07-10 Thread Chris
On Saturday 10 July 2004 11:16 am, Chris wrote:

 If you use KMail -
 http://kmail.kde.org/tools.html

 There are suggested tools to do this. Also -
 make search key=pst files | more
 Port:   libpst-0.4.1
 Path:   /usr/ports/mail/libpst
 Info:   A tool for converting Outlook .pst files to Unix mbox format
 Maint:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Another useful link:
http://www.emailman.com/conversion/index.html

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Re: OK i feel stupid about this noob question but....

2004-07-10 Thread Micheal Patterson



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 I dont know whats wrong with me but for some reason i cant add users to
 my system. I go through the whole bit of adduser -s but it asks user
 names must match reguilar expressions [regext]   ...  I dont even
 remember that happening when i use to add users or i might just be going
 insane, anyways i put in regext or the username or something but when i
 finaly get through the other 4 questions on there and get to acually try
 to add the user it says it must follow the expression ... I decided to
 beat my head agenst my desk to see if i could knock something lose,
 anyone wanna help with this? i have added users before ( back when i
 first got everything installed about 2 years ago) and have not really
 needed to since, but now im trying again..

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Jammet,

adduser.conf doesn't yet exist on your system and adduser is asking you for
the defaults.  If you accept the default entries, it will ask you at the end
to save them. Tell it yes and run add user again and you're all set and back
to your normal routine.


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arplookup errors in /var/log/messages

2004-07-10 Thread John Lee
hi, is there anyway i can stop receiving these errors

Jul 10 10:00:40 web /kernel: arplookup 63.171.211.198 failed: host is not on
local network
Jul 10 10:02:37 web last message repeated 82 times

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BSD Airtools?

2004-07-10 Thread Eric Crist
Hey all,

I've looked everywhere, and I can't find the bsd-airtools port.  Can anyone 
enlighten me?

Thanks.
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Can't Mount Optical Drive

2004-07-10 Thread Jason Dusek
Hi,
I'm on a Dell Latitude D600 with a CD-RW/DVD-R. When I try to mount the 
drive I get an error:

 5 # mount /dev/acd0 /cdrom
 mount: /dev/acd0: Input/output error
But dmesg says:
 acd0: CDRW QSI CD-RW/DVD-ROM SBW242U at ata1-master PIO4
So although my drive is recognized correctly, it doesn't work with 
FreeBSD. But it worked for building and installing FreeBSD a few days 
ago, so I know the drive is functional. How do I get the drive to mount? 
Does it make any difference that I am running GNOME 2.6?

I have some another disk mounting question, too. Sometimes when I try to 
mount the CD drive I get an error that goes something like:

 Incorrect super block
What does this error mean? What does it mean in reference to a hard 
drive? What does it mean in reference to a CD drive?

- Jason
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Re: Can't Mount Optical Drive

2004-07-10 Thread Saint Aardvark the Carpeted
Jason Dusek disturbed my sleep to write:
  5 # mount /dev/acd0 /cdrom
  mount: /dev/acd0: Input/output error

You may want to try:

mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0c /cdrom

or its equivalent:

mount_cd9660 /dev/acd0c /cdrom

Also, if you're trying to mount a DVD instead of a CD, you may need to
try:

mount_cd9660 /dev/cd0c /cdrom

 I have some another disk mounting question, too. Sometimes when I try to 
 mount the CD drive I get an error that goes something like:
 
  Incorrect super block
 
 What does this error mean? What does it mean in reference to a hard 
 drive? What does it mean in reference to a CD drive?

The superblock is a chunk of disk that has housekeeping information
like the amount of free space, where to find free inodes, and so on.

The error can mean pretty much the same things no matter what the
medium.  It might mean that you've specified the wrong filesystem --
mount (which defaults to FreeBSD's UFS filesystem) instead of mount
-t cd9660, say.  It might also mean that the the filesystem hasn't been
formatted yet, or (if a CD) that you've burned a coaster.  Or, it might
mean that you are about to be very grateful for your carefully-followed
backup plan. :-)

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ports

2004-07-10 Thread Patrick Mackinlay
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Re: Moving my Outlook PST file to any BSD E-mail client

2004-07-10 Thread Kristian Holdich
When I switched from Outlook to Evolution I imported via
Netscape/Mozilla Mail. It needs to be done on Windows however as it uses
some Win32 API calls to parse the mailbox file. Most stuff is good about
importing netscape mail format.

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System Profile

2004-07-10 Thread James W. Thompson, II
Is there a way to find out what hardware was detected by FreeBSD or to
get a list of what it recognizes on my system?

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Re: ports

2004-07-10 Thread Arjan Van Leeuwen
Hi Patrick,

On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 18:02:02 +, Patrick Mackinlay
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 How do I submit fixes to a particular port?

If the port has a maintainer, send a mail to the maintainer with the
proposed fix. If the port has no maintainer ([EMAIL PROTECTED] is
listed as maintainer), use send-pr to send a patch that will end up in
the FreeBSD bug database.

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Re: System Profile

2004-07-10 Thread Warren Block
On Sat, 10 Jul 2004, James W. Thompson, II wrote:
Is there a way to find out what hardware was detected by FreeBSD or to
get a list of what it recognizes on my system?
dmesg | less
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Re: cvsup behind windows xp (The next level)

2004-07-10 Thread Grant Speelman
On Friday 09 July 2004 18:00, you wrote:
 On Fri, Jul 09, 2004 at 03:09:23PM +0200, Grant Speelman wrote:
  On Thursday 08 July 2004 11:52, you wrote:
   On Thu, Jul 08, 2004 at 12:33:18AM +0200, Grant Speelman wrote:
I got the small problem, I would like to keep my ports
collection update using cvsup but I don't have a direct
connection to the internet. My Computer is on a network with
my Fathers computer which is running windows xp.  Lets say I
have full access to my fathers computer as long I don't
remove windows xp. What would I have to do to my fathers
computer and my in order to keep my ports collections
updated.
   
I read the man pages something about cvsup using a socks
proxy but where do I find this runsock(I look in the ports
and try the 'which' command) and how do I use it.
  
   You can enable 'connection sharing' on your Father's XP box
   which should permit your FreeBSD machine sufficient network
   access to run cvsup(1).  Connection Sharing simply makes the XP
   machine into a NAT gateway for your home network, and enables a
   DHCP+DNS service on the XP box, so that other home machines can
   autoconfigure themselves against it.  A FreeBSD machine should
   be able to do that without too much trouble.
 
  Right I check up on this connection sharing on windows Xp but run
  into a small problem , the connection sharing will only work if
  you use windows xp's dailup to connect to your ISP but my father
  uses the dailup connection program the ISP offers(and I tried
  setting it up using the xp's dailer but with no success) ,
  therefore there is no dailup in the network connections of xp, so
  I can't use the connection sharing of xp unless there is some
  other way to enable it.

 You'ld have to ask someone who knew about XP to get an answer to
 that.

  It is possible though for me to use a proxy , I use it for my
  basic connections like mail , www , etc. But how would I be able
  to get cvsup to work on a connection like this?

 Depends on the proxy.  If it's an application specific proxy then
 unfortunately you are out of luck.  You would need a program that
 ran under windows and that understood the cvsup protocol.  I don't
 believe that such a program exists.  On the other hand, if you have
 a much lower level of proxying -- down at the packet level -- all
 you would need to do is forward packets destined for port 5999/tcp.
  I say proxy, but the piece of software that does that job is
 usually described as doing Network Address TRanslation -- and the
 standard way of doing that under Windows is with the Connection
 Sharing setup, so dead end there as well.

 However, all is not lost.  You can use CTM instead of cvsup -- see
 the ctm(1) man page and the handbook section:


 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ctm.html

 With CTM you get a series of 'deltas' sent to you via e-mail (which
 you should have no trouble receiving) -- use the ctm(1) program to
 apply them to your sources and it will keep everything up to date
 for you.


Thanks for the help , I give ctm a shot

Grant


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Re: cvsync

2004-07-10 Thread Christian Weisgerber
Alexander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 does it have some bonuses over cvsup?

It's written in portable C.  It requires threads, but you don't
have to worry about porting a Modula-3 compiler and runtime environment
to each new platform.

Featurewise it's about on a par with CVSup, with the notable omission
of checkout mode.

Also see URL:http://www.cvsync.org/.
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Re: System Profile

2004-07-10 Thread Bill Moran
James W. Thompson, II [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is there a way to find out what hardware was detected by FreeBSD or to
 get a list of what it recognizes on my system?

dmesg

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Re: cvsup RELENG_5_2 deletes make files and most of source

2004-07-10 Thread Simon L. Nielsen
On 2004.07.10 14:04:59 -0400, David Kaplowitz wrote:

 I've been googling around for an answer to this apparent problem, but
 am not getting anywhere with it. When I run cvsup with the tag
 RELENG_5_2, I see all manner of (seemingly legit) files being deleted,
 but nothing actually gets added/checked out. Viewing the contents of

Have you tried another mirror?  It could be a (very) out-of-date
mirror that doesn't have 5.2 ?  Also you could try to delete the files
in /usr/sup.

 If I run the same command with a supfile with the tag=. flag set,
 everything updates, nothing gets deleted, but I can't run make
 buildworld successfully. I get all manner of errors --- and I'd prefer
 to run -STABLE rather than -CURRENT, unless there's some compelling
 reason to run -CURRENT on this machine.

5.X is the -CURRENT branch (still) and -STABLE is 4.X (e.g. 4.10).

 The system is 5.2.1-R on a MSI Neo K8T FIS2R mobo with an AMD 3200+
 with ddr 400/pc3200 RAM and an SATA HDD.

Hmm, that's an i386 system, so it's not related to this mailing list
(freebsd-amd64).  You should use the freebsd-questions for generic
questions...

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PF and ADSL

2004-07-10 Thread DrVince
Hi everyone

I'm running an Alcatel Speedtouch 510v4 which deals with PPPoE on it's own and 
gives DHCP for the internal network... what a charm.  My link is 3008kb 
download and 800kb upload.

I installed Packet Filter in my box mainly to give a performance boost by 
putting a big priority on ACKs.  Based on Shamim Mohamed's pf.conf for ADSL, 
http://www.drones.com/obsd-fw.html I have this:

altq on $external priq bandwidth 790kb queue { highpri_q, default_q }
queue highpri_q priority 7
queue default_q priority 1 priq(default)

pass in quick on $external inet proto tcp from any to any port $services \
 flags S/SA keep state queue (default_q, highpri_q)
pass out quick on $external inet proto tcp from any to any \
 flags S/SA keep state queue (default_q, highpri_q)
pass out quick on $external inet proto udp  all keep state
pass out quick on $external inet proto icmp from any to any keep state

I'm wondering, is the bandwidth for upload or download?  If it's set, as-is, 
for upload (790kb) wouldn't that also limit the download as so?  If it's set 
for download (3000kb) wouldn't that be useless for prioritisation of the 
upload?


Vincent Rodrigue

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Ftp server near me

2004-07-10 Thread Joshua Lewis
All documentation tells you when running CVSUP or installing FBSD from FTP
to use the FTP server closest to you.

So how do you determine the best server. I recall reading a post that said
run a command that will determine the closest server or fastest server near
you. I however lost the page I printed out and can't remember the web
address.

Any ideas how to find the fastest server near me?
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Re: Ftp server near me

2004-07-10 Thread uidzero
Joshua Lewis wrote:
All documentation tells you when running CVSUP or installing FBSD from FTP
to use the FTP server closest to you.
So how do you determine the best server. I recall reading a post that said
run a command that will determine the closest server or fastest server near
you. I however lost the page I printed out and can't remember the web
address.
Any ideas how to find the fastest server near me?
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/usr/ports/sysutils/fastest_cvsup
It will find the fastest ftp for you to download from.
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Re: Ftp server near me

2004-07-10 Thread DerDrache
fastest_cvsup is a simple program to use that can be found in the ports 
tree.  I'd recommend it.

/usr/ports/sysutils/fastest_cvsup
DerDrache
Joshua Lewis wrote:
All documentation tells you when running CVSUP or installing FBSD from FTP
to use the FTP server closest to you.
So how do you determine the best server. I recall reading a post that said
run a command that will determine the closest server or fastest server near
you. I however lost the page I printed out and can't remember the web
address.
Any ideas how to find the fastest server near me?
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Re: Ftp server near me

2004-07-10 Thread DerDrache
My apologies.  I did not read your original email as closely as I should 
have.  fastest_cvsup will only test cvsup servers.

DerDrache wrote:
fastest_cvsup is a simple program to use that can be found in the 
ports tree.  I'd recommend it.

/usr/ports/sysutils/fastest_cvsup
DerDrache
Joshua Lewis wrote:
All documentation tells you when running CVSUP or installing FBSD 
from FTP
to use the FTP server closest to you.

So how do you determine the best server. I recall reading a post that 
said
run a command that will determine the closest server or fastest 
server near
you. I however lost the page I printed out and can't remember the web
address.

Any ideas how to find the fastest server near me?
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Re: Ftp server near me

2004-07-10 Thread Randy Pratt
On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 13:18:36 -0700
Joshua Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 All documentation tells you when running CVSUP or installing FBSD from FTP
 to use the FTP server closest to you.
 
 So how do you determine the best server. I recall reading a post that said
 run a command that will determine the closest server or fastest server near
 you. I however lost the page I printed out and can't remember the web
 address.
 
 Any ideas how to find the fastest server near me?

I think your looking for /usr/ports/sysutils/fastest_cvsup .

The fastest may change depending on mirror loads or net
conditions so I use this in my script that cvsups things:

# Find fastest cvsup server at the moment
host=`fastest_cvsup -Q -c us`

/usr/local/bin/cvsup -g -L 2 -h $host /your/path/to/supfile

See the manpage for fastest_cvsup for options available of course.
The above is for US cvsup mirrors.  Adjust accordingly.

Best regards,

Randy
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Re: Sendmail upgrade advice

2004-07-10 Thread Brent Bailey
hope this helps

im going to use 8.12.10 as an examplei think the instructions are
referring to this: when you unpack sendmail-8.x.x  it makes a dir called
sendmail.8.x.x (whatever the version name)

cd into that dir. theres a INSTALL file that pretty much says everthign i
said herebut  oh well...who reads instructions anyway

you will also see a dir oddly enough called sendmail cd into that
that is where you run the
sh Build

then it wants you to go to the cf/cf dir  todo so do:
cd ../cf/cf

then copy the .mc file that matches your environment. do this:
cp generic-bsd4.4.mc   sendmail.mc

edit the sendmail.mc file you just copied adding whatever options you
want...i use the following
--SNIP
FEATURE(nouucp, reject)
FEATURE(local_procmail)
FEATURE(access_db, `hash -TTMPF /etc/mail/access')
FEATURE(virtusertable, `hash /etc/mail/virtusertable')
FEATURE(blacklist_recipients)
FEATURE(use_cw_file)
FEATURE(`dnsbl', `relays.ordb.org', BLACKLISTED  - see
http://ORDB.org/lookup/?host=${client_addr};)dnl
FEATURE(`dnsbl', `bl.spamcop.net', SPAM BLOCKED -  see
http://spamcop.net/w3m?action=checkblockip=${client_addr};)dnl
FEATURE(`dnsbl', `sbl.spamhaus.org', `571 ACCESS DENIED to $f thru
${client_name} by /spamhaus/ ; Please see
http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/;')dnl
FEATURE(`dnsbl', `list.dsbl.org', `571 ACCESS DENIED to $f thru
${client_name} by /dsbl/ ; Please see
http://dsbl.org/listing.php?ip=${client_addr}
')dnl
define(`confDOMAIN_NAME', `whatever.domain')dnl
define(`confPRIVACY_FLAGS', `goaway,authwarnings,noexpn,novrfy')
SNIP---
just a note about the above snippet...i use RBL checks also above that i
have enabled virtusertable  access  procmail for a local mailer.

1.virtusertable allows you to have virtual users for domain hosting
envronments make sure /etc/mail/virtusertable exists

2. access is used to help limit allow or deny certain users or IPs or
domains...for spam or abuse purpuses make sure /etc/mail/access exists

as well as /etc/mail/relay_domains if it doesnt already

3. i use procmail as my local mailer also to help with spam filtering
theres alot of procmail recipies you can find on the net.
ANYHWO---
make sure each FEATURE  define is on a line by itself
then save and then run
sh Build sendmail.cf

make backups of your current sendmail configs in /etc/mail ( if ya want )

then do:
sh Build install-cf

then go back to the sendmail dir by doing

cd ../../sendmail
then run:
sh Build install


thats it ...your done ...upgraded sendmail :-)



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 On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 17:58:15 -0400
 Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi All,

 I had some problems with Sendmail a few weeks ago and it was suggested
 that I upgrade. I am finally able to do this but am now experiencing
 further problems. I downloaded 8.13 but the instructions just seem to
 lead me in circles sending me from one readme to another.

 Ok, so it tells me the easiest way to build sendmail is to type sh Build
 in the Sendmail directory. I just get an error:

 %sh build
 build: Can't open build: No such file or directory
 %sh Build
 Configuration: pfx=, os=FreeBSD, rel=4.4-RELEASE, rbase=4,
 rroot=4.4-RELEASE, arch=i386, sfx=, variant=optimized
 Using M4=/usr/bin/m4
 Creating
 /usr/home/rob/sendmail-8.13.0/obj.FreeBSD.4.4-RELEASE.i386/sendmail
 using
 /usr/home/rob/sendmail-8.13.0/devtools/OS/FreeBSD sed: 1: s/
 //g
 : unterminated substitute pattern
 sed: 1: s/
 //g
 : unterminated substitute pattern
 ERROR: /usr/bin/m4 failed; You may need a newer version of M4, at least
 as new as System V or GNU

 I see that it is using M4=/usr/bin/m4 so do I need to perform some sort
 of upgrade on that file first?

 I also see that the instructions tell me to create any necessary site
 configuration build files, as noted in devtools/Site/README. Well this
 particular Readme tells me nothing on how to perform these file
 creations.

 I have read through all the readme and install files and just can't seem
 to get any further.

 Any help really appreciated. I am upgrading from 8.11.6.

 Rob.

 hello rob,

 would sendmail 8.12.11 be enough to satisfy your upgrading needs?  if so,
 no need to hassle with a manual build, because you'll find it in the ports
 tree.


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Re: Ftp server near me

2004-07-10 Thread uidzero
DerDrache wrote:
My apologies.  I did not read your original email as closely as I 
should have.  fastest_cvsup will only test cvsup servers.

DerDrache wrote:
fastest_cvsup is a simple program to use that can be found in the 
ports tree.  I'd recommend it.

/usr/ports/sysutils/fastest_cvsup
DerDrache
Joshua Lewis wrote:
All documentation tells you when running CVSUP or installing FBSD 
from FTP
to use the FTP server closest to you.

So how do you determine the best server. I recall reading a post 
that said
run a command that will determine the closest server or fastest 
server near
you. I however lost the page I printed out and can't remember the web
address.

Any ideas how to find the fastest server near me?
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Ahh, the same here. I aoologize.
Michael
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resizing my slices/partitions - was pruning the Ports tree

2004-07-10 Thread Graham North
Hello all:

I would like to  expand my FreeBSD partion on the hard drive of which it only has 60%.
The rest of the HD holds an old installation of Win98.

When I first installed FBSD 4.8 I used Partition Magic to carve off 1.2G of a 2.0G HD 
and give me dual boot capability so as to retain the Win98.After recently 
installing a full ports tree I find that my FBSD /usr slice is almost out of file 
handles.   A sensible solution.. how about removing my 800M of Windows and capturing 
it for FBSD.   NOTE - please read end of email concerning inodes.
Looking for suggestions and warnings..!

Of course I can blow everything away, reformat and re-install, but my preference would 
be to:
1) shutdown
2)use my partion magic boot disk to reformat the 800MB windows partion
3)use sysinstall to expand my /usr slice, maybe even resize some of the others

Perhaps I can do this all with sysintall without even shutting down?   I have not used 
that program since my original install 6 months ago so am not sure of its 
capabilities, weaknesses and strengths.

Something important to note,  I am not out of disk space but have run out of file 
handles (BSD calls them Inodes) - so it really is nodes that I need to recapture not 
space - might this have some implications that necessitate a complete reformat or 
re-install??

Suggestions and comments greatly appreciated.

Cheers,  Graham/





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Re: Ftp server near me

2004-07-10 Thread Kent Stewart
On Saturday 10 July 2004 01:33 pm, uidzero wrote:
 DerDrache wrote:
  My apologies.  I did not read your original email as closely as I
  should have.  fastest_cvsup will only test cvsup servers.
 
  DerDrache wrote:
  fastest_cvsup is a simple program to use that can be found in the
  ports tree.  I'd recommend it.
 
  /usr/ports/sysutils/fastest_cvsup
 
  DerDrache
 
  Joshua Lewis wrote:
  All documentation tells you when running CVSUP or installing FBSD
  from FTP
  to use the FTP server closest to you.
 
  So how do you determine the best server. I recall reading a post
  that said
  run a command that will determine the closest server or fastest
  server near
  you. I however lost the page I printed out and can't remember the
  web address.
 
  Any ideas how to find the fastest server near me?

 Ahh, the same here. I aoologize.


I think I would have given the same answer. It was the only choice since 
the Handbook no longer tells you where each mirror is located. All you 
can do now, is choose an FTP mirror that is in a country close to you.

Kent

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Re: cvsup RELENG_5_2 deletes make files and most of source

2004-07-10 Thread David Kaplowitz
On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 21:46:04 +0200, Simon L. Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Have you tried another mirror?  It could be a (very) out-of-date
 mirror that doesn't have 5.2 ?  Also you could try to delete the files
 in /usr/sup.
 

I hadn't tried it, but after you suggested it I did. I think Don's
reply (above) mentions what I was doing wrong. I appreciate the input
though.

 5.X is the -CURRENT branch (still) and -STABLE is 4.X (e.g. 4.10).
 

Somewhere in the back of my head I knew this from my previous installs
of the 5.x tree, but I saw some other posts that confused me. Thanks
for clarifying this. No wonder I was getting make buildworld errors.

  The system is 5.2.1-R on a MSI Neo K8T FIS2R mobo with an AMD 3200+
  with ddr 400/pc3200 RAM and an SATA HDD.
 
 Hmm, that's an i386 system, so it's not related to this mailing list
 (freebsd-amd64).  You should use the freebsd-questions for generic
 questions...
 

Actually you must be confusing my K8T (k8t800 chipset) with another of
MSI's K8T Neo mobos. My 3200+ is the 64-bit 2.0Ghz., not the 32-bit
2.8Ghz...(or whatever the 3200+ is in the 32-bit world)

Cheers,

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Re: Can't Mount Optical Drive

2004-07-10 Thread Jason Dusek
Hi Again,
In that there must be something else wrong, because after trying a few 
permutations I was unable to get the drive on my D600 to work:

 1 root # mount_cd9660 /dev/acd0 /cdrom
 mount_cd9660: /dev/acd0: Input/output error
 2 root # mount_cd9660 /dev/acd0c /cdrom
 mount_cd9660: /dev/acd0c: No such file or directory
 3 root # mount_cd9660 /dev/cd0c /cdrom
 mount_cd9660: /dev/cd0c: No such file or directory
 4 root # mount_cd9660 /dev/cd0 /cdrom
 mount_cd9660: /dev/cd0: No such file or directory
Do I need to create some directories for this to work? How will my 
computer know what directories to attach the drive to?

- Jason
Saint Aardvark the Carpeted wrote:
Jason Dusek disturbed my sleep to write:
 

5 # mount /dev/acd0 /cdrom
mount: /dev/acd0: Input/output error
   

You may want to try:
mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0c /cdrom
or its equivalent:
mount_cd9660 /dev/acd0c /cdrom
Also, if you're trying to mount a DVD instead of a CD, you may need to
try:
mount_cd9660 /dev/cd0c /cdrom
 

I have some another disk mounting question, too. Sometimes when I try to 
mount the CD drive I get an error that goes something like:

Incorrect super block
What does this error mean? What does it mean in reference to a hard 
drive? What does it mean in reference to a CD drive?
   

The superblock is a chunk of disk that has housekeeping information
like the amount of free space, where to find free inodes, and so on.
The error can mean pretty much the same things no matter what the
medium.  It might mean that you've specified the wrong filesystem --
mount (which defaults to FreeBSD's UFS filesystem) instead of mount
-t cd9660, say.  It might also mean that the the filesystem hasn't been
formatted yet, or (if a CD) that you've burned a coaster.  Or, it might
mean that you are about to be very grateful for your carefully-followed
backup plan. :-)
 

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Re: resizing my slices/partitions - was pruning the Ports tree

2004-07-10 Thread Bill Moran
[Please wrap your lines around 72 chars or so ... see
http://www.lemis.com/questions.html ]

Graham North [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello all:
 
 I would like to  expand my FreeBSD partion on the hard drive of which it only
 has 60%.
 The rest of the HD holds an old installation of Win98.
 
 When I first installed FBSD 4.8 I used Partition Magic to carve off 1.2G of a
 2.0G HD and give me dual boot capability so as to retain the Win98.After
 recently installing a full ports tree I find that my FBSD /usr slice is
 almost out of file handles.

This is very unusual.  There are generally more than enough inodes so that
you don't run out of inodes before you run out of space.  Did you use
custom options to newfs when you created the filesystem?  Do you have a TON
of small files?

You may want to just ckeck the filesystem and see what's eating up all the
inodes to make sure it isn't something you can just delete.  My /usr
filesystem is 10G, and the defaults created over 1 million inodes.  I'm
using 2.7G and 170,000 inodes, which means I'll run out of space when I
still have 1/2-million free inodes.

 Of course I can blow everything away, reformat and re-install, but my
 preference would be to:
 1) shutdown
 2)use my partion magic boot disk to reformat the 800MB windows partion
 3)use sysinstall to expand my /usr slice, maybe even resize some of the others
 
 Perhaps I can do this all with sysintall without even shutting down?   I have
 not used that program since my original install 6 months ago so am not sure
 of its capabilities, weaknesses and strengths.

You've got the right idea, but you're a little off.

_Assuming_ your Windows partition is the last partition on the HDD, and the
/usr partition is second to last, the following will work:

1) BACK UP any important data ... this procedure is easy to screw up!
2) Use PM or something similar to remove the Win partition and expenad the
   BSD partition to take up the space used by Win.  You can also use BSD's
   disklabel and related utilities to do this (in single-user mode).
3) Boot FreeBSD into single-user mode
4) Use growfs to increase the size of the /usr filesystem to take up the
   partition.

Since inodes are laid out in as a ration of #inodes/block, newfs will add
more inodes in ration to the amount of space added.  My point is that if you
continue to use the filesystem in this manner, you're still going to run out
of inodes before you fill the drive (even with the increased space).
Although, this is a valid short-term fix that will provide you with more
inodes.

Depending on what you want to accomplish (long term) you may want to take
the time now to backup this filesystem and re-newfs it with a value for
-i that's appropriate.  See the man page for newfs for more details.

-- 
Bill Moran
Potential Technologies
http://www.potentialtech.com
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Re: Moving my Outlook PST file to any BSD E-mail client

2004-07-10 Thread Curtis Almond
Tom's Hardware wrote a good how-to on this for Linux.  I am assuming
the tool to convert outlook to evolution is in ports.  If not you can
install linux, savi the .pst file to a network share, then install BSD
with evoltion and away you go.

http://www.tomshardware.com/howto/20040412/wintolinux-06.html


On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 19:21:10 +0100, Kristian Holdich
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 When I switched from Outlook to Evolution I imported via
 Netscape/Mozilla Mail. It needs to be done on Windows however as it uses
 some Win32 API calls to parse the mailbox file. Most stuff is good about
 importing netscape mail format.
 
 
 
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Person new to FreeBSD needs help...

2004-07-10 Thread Jeff Erickson
Dear Group,

I am new to FreeBSD and am having a problem. I downloaded the ISOs of
Disk 1 and 2
of version 4.10 and go through the installation and everything seems
to be fine until I reboot. Then it says that it cannot load the kernel
or kernel.old. What am I doing wrong?

Thanks in advance,
Jeff Erickson
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Re: resizing my slices/partitions - was pruning the Ports tree

2004-07-10 Thread Graham North
Hello Bill:

Thanks again for your help.
Does the line wrap look better now?  I reduced from 76 to 66.

Regarding inodes - /usr is 778MB and began with 99,838 inodes.
That would jive approximately with your million for 10G drive.  It
now has 96M of free space but only 590 inodes remaining.This
heavy drain on inodes occurred when I downloaded the full Ports
tree a month or so ago.  Not sure of the numbers but it was
clearly a TON of small files  :--).
/usr is /dev/ad0s2g - I cannot remember from my install but think
that Windows may be the first partition..??

You said:
 _Assuming_ your Windows partition is the last partition on the
HDD, and the
 /usr partition is second to last, the following will work:

 1) BACK UP any important data ... this procedure is easy to
screw up!
 2) Use PM or something similar to remove the Win partition and
expenad the
BSD partition to take up the space used by Win.  You can also
use BSD's
disklabel and related utilities to do this (in single-user
mode).
 3) Boot FreeBSD into single-user mode
 4) Use growfs to increase the size of the /usr filesystem to
take up the
partition.

I suspect that since the Ports download is an infrequent deal and
most of my other files are much larger than the 500B or so of the
Ports that the problem will be alleviated by adding space with a
proportional number of nodes - (provided the next Ports update
does not leave me with tons of debris)
I will do some hunting for info on single user mode and growfs
before proceeding.   Is it necessary for me to user single user
mode if I am the only user?   I can of course restrict myself to a
single logon.

Thanks again for such really good help.
Graham/


- Original Message - 
From: Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Graham North [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: resizing my slices/partitions - was pruning the Ports
tree


 [Please wrap your lines around 72 chars or so ... see
 http://www.lemis.com/questions.html ]

 Graham North [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hello all:
 
  I would like to  expand my FreeBSD partion on the hard drive
of which it only
  has 60%.
  The rest of the HD holds an old installation of Win98.
 
  When I first installed FBSD 4.8 I used Partition Magic to
carve off 1.2G of a
  2.0G HD and give me dual boot capability so as to retain the
Win98.After
  recently installing a full ports tree I find that my FBSD /usr
slice is
  almost out of file handles.

 This is very unusual.  There are generally more than enough
inodes so that
 you don't run out of inodes before you run out of space.  Did
you use
 custom options to newfs when you created the filesystem?  Do you
have a TON
 of small files?

 You may want to just ckeck the filesystem and see what's eating
up all the
 inodes to make sure it isn't something you can just delete.  My
/usr
 filesystem is 10G, and the defaults created over 1 million
inodes.  I'm
 using 2.7G and 170,000 inodes, which means I'll run out of space
when I
 still have 1/2-million free inodes.

  Of course I can blow everything away, reformat and re-install,
but my
  preference would be to:
  1) shutdown
  2)use my partion magic boot disk to reformat the 800MB windows
partion
  3)use sysinstall to expand my /usr slice, maybe even resize
some of the others
 
  Perhaps I can do this all with sysintall without even shutting
down?   I have
  not used that program since my original install 6 months ago
so am not sure
  of its capabilities, weaknesses and strengths.

 You've got the right idea, but you're a little off.

 _Assuming_ your Windows partition is the last partition on the
HDD, and the
 /usr partition is second to last, the following will work:

 1) BACK UP any important data ... this procedure is easy to
screw up!
 2) Use PM or something similar to remove the Win partition and
expenad the
BSD partition to take up the space used by Win.  You can also
use BSD's
disklabel and related utilities to do this (in single-user
mode).
 3) Boot FreeBSD into single-user mode
 4) Use growfs to increase the size of the /usr filesystem to
take up the
partition.

 Since inodes are laid out in as a ration of #inodes/block, newfs
will add
 more inodes in ration to the amount of space added.  My point is
that if you
 continue to use the filesystem in this manner, you're still
going to run out
 of inodes before you fill the drive (even with the increased
space).
 Although, this is a valid short-term fix that will provide you
with more
 inodes.

 Depending on what you want to accomplish (long term) you may
want to take
 the time now to backup this filesystem and re-newfs it with a
value for
 -i that's appropriate.  See the man page for newfs for more
details.

 -- 
 Bill Moran
 Potential Technologies
 http://www.potentialtech.com

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Re: Lucent LT modem under FreeBSD

2004-07-10 Thread Jan Christian Meyer
 I've read that the proper drivers are in the ports collection, but
 there's one big problem. The only way I'd be able to access the ports
 collection is with an internet connection, and to have an internet
 connection I need the Lucent winmodem drivers for FreeBSD.

Someone can probably suggest something more optimal, but FWIW, here's my 
tedious manual procedure for installing ports without a network connection:

1. Try to compile the port, up to the point where it complains
2. Press Ctrl-C, interrupting the compilation
3. Make a note of the name of the missing file
4. Go to different computer with network connection, carrying floppy or CD-R
5. Download missing file from ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/
6. Transfer it to /usr/ports/distfiles on target machine using floppy or CD-R
7. Lather, rinse, and repeat from step one until compilation no longer 
complains

For only the ltmdm port (Lucent winmodem driver), this should not be an 
astonishing amount of work, and afterwards you can install your ports in 
style like the cool kids do. :)

Good luck,
 -Jan Christian

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Where is sysinstall

2004-07-10 Thread Brian Hayashi
I DL the iso image files but found no install program.

Can you help?
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How Critical Is It To Use an ISP Running FreeBSD or BSD/OS?

2004-07-10 Thread Bob Perry
Hello,
I remember reading in The Complete FreeBSD, by Greg Lehey, that you'll
be better off with an ISP that runs FreeBSD or BSD/OS.  Can anyone
provide a scenario(s) where this would be most apparent?
I don't know what OS my ISP uses but I do know that they only support
Windows and Mac platforms.  I've run OS/2 and FreeBSD using their
email services and never really needed technical support.
Now, I'm considering a new ISP primarily due to cost.   Also,
considering obtaining my own domain name and exploring web hosting.
I assume that recommending an ISP is inappropriate but if you know of
any forums that have discussed ISPs for FreeBSD, feel free to recommend
them.
Thank you.
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Re: Newbieish Desktop Questions

2004-07-10 Thread Henrik W Lund
Kristian Holdich wrote:
On Sat, 2004-07-10 at 14:40, Kjell Midtseter wrote:
 

There's one glaring problem with that, if for some reason you need to go
into single user mode under FreeBSD's default slicing scheme root wont
have a shell as /usr isn't mounted. It's always good practice to keep
the shell root uses in /sbin or /bin.
You can change the shell root, or any other user uses by using chpass
also, and so long as the shell is in /etc/shells it will be valid.
I was actually more interested in understanding whether any critical
scripts would start barfing if the shell got changed, I know on Solaris
I got into the habit of keeping root using /sbin/sh.
 

As far as I know, you're prompted for a root shell whenever you enter 
single user mode anyways (I am, at least, and I use /bin/csh for root 
normally. I'm still prompted every time). So, whatever shell you use for 
root in multiuser mode shouldn't matter, as single user mode is a 
different kettle of fish altogether. Granted, getting into the habit of 
using one shell for root in multiuser, then having to switch into an 
unfamiliar shell for single user could complicate work slightly...

As for vital scripts failing, I doubt it. Unless you start symlinking 
like crazy, things should work fine, as scripts starting with #!/bin/sh 
will always use /bin/sh and so on (so unless /bin/sh is a symlink to 
/usr/bin/wish or some such exotic setup, nothing will barf. :-)

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Re: How Critical Is It To Use an ISP Running FreeBSD or BSD/OS?

2004-07-10 Thread Roop Nanuwa
On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 19:09:13 -0400, Bob Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,
 I remember reading in The Complete FreeBSD, by Greg Lehey, that you'll
 be better off with an ISP that runs FreeBSD or BSD/OS.  Can anyone
 provide a scenario(s) where this would be most apparent?

I don't know Greg's reasoning for that statement but it does seem
rather wrong to me. Would you judge a waitress on their choice of
shoes? Of course not, you'd
judge them based on their service. Would you decide on who to hire to build you
a fence based on what kind of screwdriver they use?

Why would you choose an ISP based on what tool they use to provide you with a
service?

See how their service has been in the past and if their service meets
your needs,
that's all there really is to it.

--roop
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Re: How Critical Is It To Use an ISP Running FreeBSD or BSD/OS?

2004-07-10 Thread Bill Moran
Bob Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello,
 I remember reading in The Complete FreeBSD, by Greg Lehey, that you'll
 be better off with an ISP that runs FreeBSD or BSD/OS.  Can anyone
 provide a scenario(s) where this would be most apparent?

If you have problems and call their tech support.

A number of ISPs in the past, when I've had problems and called, they
say, do this with Windows and when I say I'm not using Windows they
reply that they don't support anything but, and therefore can't help
me.  That's been in spite of the fact that I've done everything reasonable
to determine that the problem is _NOT_ on my end, they simply refuse to
do _any_ diagnostic work if I wasn't using Windows.

The situation seems to be getting better, and nowadays, I just lie and
say I'm using Windows and execute the equivalent commands in FreeBSD and
explain the result.

 I don't know what OS my ISP uses but I do know that they only support
 Windows and Mac platforms.  I've run OS/2 and FreeBSD using their
 email services and never really needed technical support.

As long as you never need tech support, you'll probably never have a
problem, nor care what OS your ISP uses.  After all, the Internet was
designed to be OS-independent ... when everything is working correctly!

 Now, I'm considering a new ISP primarily due to cost.   Also,
 considering obtaining my own domain name and exploring web hosting.
 
 I assume that recommending an ISP is inappropriate but if you know of
 any forums that have discussed ISPs for FreeBSD, feel free to recommend
 them.

I don't think it's inappropriate.

I don't know of any nationwide ISPs that support/use FreeBSD, but if you're
in the Pittsburgh, PA area, city-net is FreeBSD friendly.  Otherwise, you
could give your location and if someone knows a FreeBSD friendly ISP in
your area, I'm sure he'll let you know.

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Re: resizing my slices/partitions - was pruning the Ports tree

2004-07-10 Thread Bill Moran
Graham North [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello Bill:
 
 Thanks again for your help.
 Does the line wrap look better now?  I reduced from 76 to 66.

You tell me.

 Regarding inodes - /usr is 778MB and began with 99,838 inodes.
 That would jive approximately with your million for 10G drive.  It
 now has 96M of free space but only 590 inodes remaining.This
 heavy drain on inodes occurred when I downloaded the full Ports
 tree a month or so ago.  Not sure of the numbers but it was
 clearly a TON of small files  :--).
 /usr is /dev/ad0s2g - I cannot remember from my install but think
 that Windows may be the first partition..??

If so, you're probably hosed.  To add space onto a partition, the
available space needs to be immediately after it.  Unless Partition
Magic can move things around to put the free space immediately after
the /usr partition, you're not going to be able to growfs it.

Last time I used PM, it didn't have much understanding of BSD filesystems,
that may have changed, but I don't know.

 You said:
  _Assuming_ your Windows partition is the last partition on the
 HDD, and the
  /usr partition is second to last, the following will work:
 
  1) BACK UP any important data ... this procedure is easy to
 screw up!
  2) Use PM or something similar to remove the Win partition and
 expenad the
 BSD partition to take up the space used by Win.  You can also
 use BSD's
 disklabel and related utilities to do this (in single-user
 mode).
  3) Boot FreeBSD into single-user mode
  4) Use growfs to increase the size of the /usr filesystem to
 take up the
 partition.
 
 I suspect that since the Ports download is an infrequent deal and
 most of my other files are much larger than the 500B or so of the
 Ports that the problem will be alleviated by adding space with a
 proportional number of nodes - (provided the next Ports update
 does not leave me with tons of debris)

Yes, the ports uses a lot of inodes, as it's a lot of directories and
small files.  I didn't know that partition was so small.

 I will do some hunting for info on single user mode and growfs
 before proceeding.   Is it necessary for me to user single user
 mode if I am the only user?   I can of course restrict myself to a
 single logon.

You need to be in single-user so the /usr partition is unmounted.  You
can't growfs a mounted partition (unless something has changed?)  If you
can manage to get the /usr partition unmounted in multiuser mode, that
will work as well.

 Thanks again for such really good help.
 Graham/
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Graham North [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 2:50 PM
 Subject: Re: resizing my slices/partitions - was pruning the Ports
 tree
 
 
  [Please wrap your lines around 72 chars or so ... see
  http://www.lemis.com/questions.html ]
 
  Graham North [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hello all:
  
   I would like to  expand my FreeBSD partion on the hard drive
 of which it only
   has 60%.
   The rest of the HD holds an old installation of Win98.
  
   When I first installed FBSD 4.8 I used Partition Magic to
 carve off 1.2G of a
   2.0G HD and give me dual boot capability so as to retain the
 Win98.After
   recently installing a full ports tree I find that my FBSD /usr
 slice is
   almost out of file handles.
 
  This is very unusual.  There are generally more than enough
 inodes so that
  you don't run out of inodes before you run out of space.  Did
 you use
  custom options to newfs when you created the filesystem?  Do you
 have a TON
  of small files?
 
  You may want to just ckeck the filesystem and see what's eating
 up all the
  inodes to make sure it isn't something you can just delete.  My
 /usr
  filesystem is 10G, and the defaults created over 1 million
 inodes.  I'm
  using 2.7G and 170,000 inodes, which means I'll run out of space
 when I
  still have 1/2-million free inodes.
 
   Of course I can blow everything away, reformat and re-install,
 but my
   preference would be to:
   1) shutdown
   2)use my partion magic boot disk to reformat the 800MB windows
 partion
   3)use sysinstall to expand my /usr slice, maybe even resize
 some of the others
  
   Perhaps I can do this all with sysintall without even shutting
 down?   I have
   not used that program since my original install 6 months ago
 so am not sure
   of its capabilities, weaknesses and strengths.
 
  You've got the right idea, but you're a little off.
 
  _Assuming_ your Windows partition is the last partition on the
 HDD, and the
  /usr partition is second to last, the following will work:
 
  1) BACK UP any important data ... this procedure is easy to
 screw up!
  2) Use PM or something similar to remove the Win partition and
 expenad the
 BSD partition to take up the space used by Win.  You can also
 use BSD's
 disklabel and related utilities to do this (in single-user
 mode).
  3) Boot FreeBSD into single-user mode
  4) Use 

Re: How Critical Is It To Use an ISP Running FreeBSD or BSD/OS?

2004-07-10 Thread Eric Brunner-Williams
Bob,

There is a freebsd isp list, for those of us who operate isps and use
freebsd for some functional element, up to and including user shell
accounts.

Why would it (choice of boxen) matter to you? You may not even be
aware if your isp is virtual or facilities-based, let alone the os
directly observed end-user services are platformed by.

If you can't find non-MS tech support, then you've made the wrong
choice.

Eric
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Re: Where is sysinstall

2004-07-10 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Saturday 10 July 2004 06:06 pm, Brian Hayashi wrote:
 I DL the iso image files but found no install program.

 Can you help?

The iso image is to be burned to a CD, which will be bootable.  Boot up 
your computer using the CD and follow the instructions at:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install.html

Best of luck,

Andrew Gould
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Re: How Critical Is It To Use an ISP Running FreeBSD or BSD/OS?

2004-07-10 Thread Kent Stewart
On Saturday 10 July 2004 04:20 pm, Bill Moran wrote:
 Bob Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hello,
  I remember reading in The Complete FreeBSD, by Greg Lehey, that
  you'll be better off with an ISP that runs FreeBSD or BSD/OS.  Can
  anyone provide a scenario(s) where this would be most apparent?

 If you have problems and call their tech support.

 A number of ISPs in the past, when I've had problems and called, they
 say, do this with Windows and when I say I'm not using Windows they
 reply that they don't support anything but, and therefore can't help
 me.  That's been in spite of the fact that I've done everything
 reasonable to determine that the problem is _NOT_ on my end, they
 simply refuse to do _any_ diagnostic work if I wasn't using Windows.

 The situation seems to be getting better, and nowadays, I just lie
 and say I'm using Windows and execute the equivalent commands in
 FreeBSD and explain the result.

  I don't know what OS my ISP uses but I do know that they only
  support Windows and Mac platforms.  I've run OS/2 and FreeBSD using
  their email services and never really needed technical support.

 As long as you never need tech support, you'll probably never have a
 problem, nor care what OS your ISP uses.  After all, the Internet was
 designed to be OS-independent ... when everything is working
 correctly!

  Now, I'm considering a new ISP primarily due to cost.   Also,
  considering obtaining my own domain name and exploring web hosting.
 
  I assume that recommending an ISP is inappropriate but if you know
  of any forums that have discussed ISPs for FreeBSD, feel free to
  recommend them.

 I don't think it's inappropriate.

 I don't know of any nationwide ISPs that support/use FreeBSD, but if
 you're in the Pittsburgh, PA area, city-net is FreeBSD friendly. 
 Otherwise, you could give your location and if someone knows a
 FreeBSD friendly ISP in your area, I'm sure he'll let you know.

Look at their web page with Netcraft, it will tell you what their web 
server is and I think that is a good clue as to what the rest of their 
setup.

Use What's that site running at
http://news.netcraft.com/

Kent
-- 
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Richland, WA

http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html
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Re: Ftp server near me

2004-07-10 Thread aerial_gus
I had this question a couple years back. I did command line ftp logins until
I found something I recognized, usually a school or university. I'm on the
East Coast (US) so I got lucky with MIT, Perdue and UNC. Commercial-sited
servers, your guess is as good as mine.

I guess you could try to brute-force a solution w/ some combination of
nslookup, traceroute etc and a six-pack...


- Original Message - 
From: Kent Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: DerDrache [EMAIL PROTECTED]; uidzero
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: Ftp server near me


 On Saturday 10 July 2004 01:33 pm, uidzero wrote:
  DerDrache wrote:
   My apologies.  I did not read your original email as closely as I
   should have.  fastest_cvsup will only test cvsup servers.
  
   DerDrache wrote:
   fastest_cvsup is a simple program to use that can be found in the
   ports tree.  I'd recommend it.
  
   /usr/ports/sysutils/fastest_cvsup
  
   DerDrache
  
   Joshua Lewis wrote:
   All documentation tells you when running CVSUP or installing FBSD
   from FTP
   to use the FTP server closest to you.
  
   So how do you determine the best server. I recall reading a post
   that said
   run a command that will determine the closest server or fastest
   server near
   you. I however lost the page I printed out and can't remember the
   web address.
  
   Any ideas how to find the fastest server near me?
 
  Ahh, the same here. I aoologize.
 

 I think I would have given the same answer. It was the only choice since
 the Handbook no longer tells you where each mirror is located. All you
 can do now, is choose an FTP mirror that is in a country close to you.

 Kent

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Re: Installation/Boot-up help please...

2004-07-10 Thread aerial_gus

- Original Message - 
From: Jeff Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 6:59 PM
Subject: Installation/Boot-up help please...


 Dear Group,

 I am new to FreeBSD and am having a problem. I downloaded Disk 1 and 2
 of version 4.10 and go through the installation and everything seems
 to be fine until I reboot. Then it says that it cannot load the kernel
 or kernel.old. What am I doing wrong?

 Thanks in advance,
 Jeff Erickson
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Did you set the disk bootable in the fdisk part of the install? The part
where you create the partitions?


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Re: Person new to FreeBSD needs help...

2004-07-10 Thread Saint Aardvark the Carpeted
Jeff Erickson disturbed my sleep to write:
 I am new to FreeBSD and am having a problem. I downloaded the ISOs of
 Disk 1 and 2
 of version 4.10 and go through the installation and everything seems
 to be fine until I reboot. Then it says that it cannot load the kernel
 or kernel.old. What am I doing wrong?

Very strange -- those files should've been copied over as part of the
installation.  Are you able to post the exact message you get?

Does your installation span more than one disk?  Is this a dual-boot
machine?  Is there anything at all unusual about your setup?

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5.2.1 Install Error (Unable To Find Device Node)

2004-07-10 Thread Rishi Chopra
I'm getting an Unable to find device node for
/dev/da0s1b in /dev error that is causing
installation to abort.  The disk is a 4x200GB IDE RAID
array.  Any idea what the problem might be?

=
Rishi Chopra
http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~rchopra




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Re: How Critical Is It To Use an ISP Running FreeBSD or BSD/OS?

2004-07-10 Thread Jerry McAllister
 
 On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 19:09:13 -0400, Bob Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hello,
  I remember reading in The Complete FreeBSD, by Greg Lehey, that you'll
  be better off with an ISP that runs FreeBSD or BSD/OS.  Can anyone
  provide a scenario(s) where this would be most apparent?
 
 I don't know Greg's reasoning for that statement but it does seem
 rather wrong to me. Would you judge a waitress on their choice of
 shoes? Of course not, you'd
 judge them based on their service. Would you decide on who to hire to build you
 a fence based on what kind of screwdriver they use?
 
 Why would you choose an ISP based on what tool they use to provide you with a
 service?

Well, first it reflects on their judgement.  If they run on FreeBSD, I
give them credit for better jedgement.   Secondly, if you have problems
or questions, you are more likely to get an intelligent answer if they
run one of the BSDs.  If they run MS, they are more likely to just say
they don't support anything different when you ask.

jerry

 
 See how their service has been in the past and if their service meets
 your needs, that's all there really is to it.

Service with what?   MS only or including other systems?

jerry
 
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Can't Mount USB Flash Drive

2004-07-10 Thread Jason Dusek
Hi,
I have a Dell D600, and I count mount flash devices on it. They show up in 
dmesg. Here I put the drive in the top one, pull it out and stick it in the 
bottom one, and then put it back in the top one:

  ugen0: SanDisk Corporation Cruzer Mini, rev 2.00/0.10, addr 2
  ugen0: at uhub0 port 1 (addr 2) disconnected
  ugen0: detached
  ugen0: SanDisk Corporation Cruzer Mini, rev 2.00/0.10, addr 2
  ugen0: at uhub0 port 1 (addr 2) disconnected
  ugen0: detached
  ugen0: SanDisk Corporation Cruzer Mini, rev 2.00/0.10, addr 2
Strangely, they show up as the same address on the same device. When I try to 
mount ugen0, I get a message that sayeth:

  Block device required.
What does this mean? What do I do?
- Jason
Saint Aardvark the Carpeted wrote:
Jason Dusek disturbed my sleep to write:
In that there must be something else wrong, because after trying a few 
permutations I was unable to get the drive on my D600 to work:

1 root # mount_cd9660 /dev/acd0 /cdrom
mount_cd9660: /dev/acd0: Input/output error
2 root # mount_cd9660 /dev/acd0c /cdrom
mount_cd9660: /dev/acd0c: No such file or directory

Huh...you should have /dev/acd0c already.  Try going to /dev and
running:
sh ./MAKEDEV acd
sh ./MAKEDEV cd
and try it again.  If it *still* doesn't work, I would wonder if there's
a problem with this particular disk.  Is it a rewritable?  Do you have
a known-good CD that you can try, or another machine you can try the
problematic disk on?
Remember, /dev/cd0c is to be used if this is a DVD you're trying to
mount.  (That said, I'm going by memory here, and you *may* be able
to get away with mounting a DVD using /dev/acd0c.)  


Do I need to create some directories for this to work?  How will my 
computer know what directories to attach the drive to?

The mount command (or its variants like mount_cd9660) usually takes 
two arguments:  the device you want to mount, and where you want to
mount it.  (I'm ignoring other, hyphenated arguments like -o rw
and so on.)  So for:

mount_cd9660 /dev/acd0c /cdrom
you're saying that you want the device /dev/acd0c to be made available at
the *already-existing* directory /cdrom. (So yes, the mount point -- the
directory you want to mount the device at -- has to be present already.)
You can leave out one or the other argument (but not both) if there's
an entry for the device in /etc/fstab.  For example, you might have this
entry:
/dev/acd0c  /cdrom cd9660  ro,noauto 0  0
which would mean you could get away with either 

mount /cdrom
or 

mount /dev/acd0c
HTH,
Hugh
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Re: Flashplasyer plug-in for Opera

2004-07-10 Thread Paulo Fonseca Jr.
Arjan,
I running now:
/usr/ports/www/linux-opera
/usr/ports/www/linux-flashplugin
/usr/ports/www/linuxpluginwrapper
I received the message Flash6 with Opera is not avilable. on make of  
linuxpluginwrapper, but in browser, the shockwave flash plugin is active.  
I set up my browser to identify as Mozilla but web pages that use flash do  
not work fine. Can you send me some web page address that use flash ?  
www.globo.com or www.cursoaprovacao.com.br not work correctly.

Thanks,
Paulo.
On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 14:27:57 +0200, Arjan Van Leeuwen  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 23:29:17 -0400, epilogue [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:
On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 21:49:14 -0300
Paulo Fonseca Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm trying to enable flash plug-in on freebsd 5.1 like this:

 1) cd /usr/ports/www/linux-flashplayer
 make install clean
 it's ok

 2) Tools - Preferences - Plug-ins - Change path
 the working path is: opera;
 /usr/X11R6/share/opera/plugins:/usr/local/lib/flash/
 it's fine

 3) when opera starts with opera -debugplugin command the message  
below
 occurs:

judging by the command above, you're using the 'native' version of opera
(that is to say, opera for freebsd).  is there any reason you would  
expect
the LINUX-flashplayer to work?   :P

try /usr/ports/www/flashpluginwrapper for the native version OR install
/usr/ports/www/linux-opera.  either should solve your problem.
Use www/linuxpluginwrapper instead of www/flashpluginwrapper - it's
newer, better maintained and supports a newer version of the Flash
player.
That said, it doesn't work with native Opera on FreeBSD 5.x - only on
4.x. So if you want Flash in Opera on FreeBSD 5.x, use linux-opera.
Arjan
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Re: Flashplasyer plug-in for Opera

2004-07-10 Thread Paulo Fonseca Jr.
Ok!
Linux-Opera is just fine with flashplayer now on freebsd 5.1.
make install on /usr/ports/www/linux-opera
make install on /usr/ports/www/linux-flashplugin
recompile and install /usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf and
make /usr/ports/linuxpluginwrapper
it'll runs ok!
On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 22:01:56 -0300, Paulo Fonseca Jr.  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Arjan,
I running now:
/usr/ports/www/linux-opera
/usr/ports/www/linux-flashplugin
/usr/ports/www/linuxpluginwrapper
I received the message Flash6 with Opera is not avilable. on make of  
linuxpluginwrapper, but in browser, the shockwave flash plugin is  
active. I set up my browser to identify as Mozilla but web pages that  
use flash do not work fine. Can you send me some web page address that  
use flash ? www.globo.com or www.cursoaprovacao.com.br not work  
correctly.

Thanks,
Paulo.
On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 14:27:57 +0200, Arjan Van Leeuwen  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 23:29:17 -0400, epilogue [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:
On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 21:49:14 -0300
Paulo Fonseca Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm trying to enable flash plug-in on freebsd 5.1 like this:

 1) cd /usr/ports/www/linux-flashplayer
 make install clean
 it's ok

 2) Tools - Preferences - Plug-ins - Change path
 the working path is: opera;
 /usr/X11R6/share/opera/plugins:/usr/local/lib/flash/
 it's fine

 3) when opera starts with opera -debugplugin command the message  
below
 occurs:

judging by the command above, you're using the 'native' version of  
opera
(that is to say, opera for freebsd).  is there any reason you would  
expect
the LINUX-flashplayer to work?   :P

try /usr/ports/www/flashpluginwrapper for the native version OR install
/usr/ports/www/linux-opera.  either should solve your problem.
Use www/linuxpluginwrapper instead of www/flashpluginwrapper - it's
newer, better maintained and supports a newer version of the Flash
player.
That said, it doesn't work with native Opera on FreeBSD 5.x - only on
4.x. So if you want Flash in Opera on FreeBSD 5.x, use linux-opera.
Arjan
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Re: excluding from tar

2004-07-10 Thread Chris
On Saturday 10 July 2004 09:55 pm, D Golden wrote:
 I've created a tar archive of my entire system, but I want to exclude
 everything in /proc , /usr/ports, and the FILE /usr/backup.tar when
 updating the archive. I've tried:

 1. cd /  tar -vu --file /usr/backup.tar * --exclude=/proc
 --exclude=/usr/ports --exclude=/usr/backup.tar

 2. cd /  tar -vu --file /usr/backup.tar * --exclude=/proc/*
 --exclude=/usr/ports/* --exclude=/usr/backup.tar

 3. cd /  tar -vu -X /root/nodump --file /usr/backup.tar *

 and in /root/nodump I have 3 lines:

 /proc   # Also tried /proc/*
 /usr/ports  # Also tried /usr/ports/*
 /usr/backup.tar

 However, in all three examples, /proc , /usr/ports, and the FILE get
 updated.

 What am I missing?

 Dana

Here is what I use - hack to suit:
 tar -zcf [EMAIL PROTECTED] +%m%d%y`.tgz 
--exclude-from /usr/home/backups/exclude.txt racerx/

Have all the excludes in the file /exclude.txt
racerx# more exclude.txt 
/usr/home/backups/*
/usr/home/racerx/Desktop/MP3/*
/usr/home/racerx/downloads/*
/usr/home/racerx/dcc/*




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Re: excluding from tar

2004-07-10 Thread Mike Jeays
On Sat, 2004-07-10 at 22:55, D Golden wrote:
 I've created a tar archive of my entire system, but I want to exclude
 everything in /proc , /usr/ports, and the FILE /usr/backup.tar when
 updating the archive. I've tried:
 
 1. cd /  tar -vu --file /usr/backup.tar * --exclude=/proc
 --exclude=/usr/ports --exclude=/usr/backup.tar
 
 2. cd /  tar -vu --file /usr/backup.tar * --exclude=/proc/*
 --exclude=/usr/ports/* --exclude=/usr/backup.tar
 
 3. cd /  tar -vu -X /root/nodump --file /usr/backup.tar *
 
 and in /root/nodump I have 3 lines:
 
 /proc   # Also tried /proc/*
 /usr/ports  # Also tried /usr/ports/*
 /usr/backup.tar
 
 However, in all three examples, /proc , /usr/ports, and the FILE get updated.
 
 What am I missing?
 
 Dana
 
 
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Tar removes the leading / from file names before doing the comparison,
so you have to leave them out in the --exclude strings.  Try
usr/ports/*, for example, instead of /usr/ports/*.


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Re: How Critical Is It To Use an ISP Running FreeBSD or BSD/OS?

2004-07-10 Thread Kevin Stevens
On Jul 10, 2004, at 17:33, Jerry McAllister wrote:
On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 19:09:13 -0400, Bob Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
Hello,
I remember reading in The Complete FreeBSD, by Greg Lehey, that 
you'll
be better off with an ISP that runs FreeBSD or BSD/OS.  Can anyone
provide a scenario(s) where this would be most apparent?
I don't know Greg's reasoning for that statement but it does seem
rather wrong to me. Would you judge a waitress on their choice of
shoes? Of course not, you'd
judge them based on their service. Would you decide on who to hire to 
build you
a fence based on what kind of screwdriver they use?

Why would you choose an ISP based on what tool they use to provide 
you with a
service?
Well, first it reflects on their judgement.  If they run on FreeBSD, I
give them credit for better jedgement.   Secondly, if you have problems
or questions, you are more likely to get an intelligent answer if they
run one of the BSDs.  If they run MS, they are more likely to just say
they don't support anything different when you ask.
In an ISP of any size, the CS reps will be almost totally divorced from 
the infrastructure team.  What OS' they support for customers has very 
little to do with what they run on the backside.

KeS
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reinstall world

2004-07-10 Thread Jason Dusek
Hi,
I gave my entire laptop's hard drive to FreeBSD, but I am beginning to have 
second thoughts - a lot of my devices don't work. I think I might try dual 
booting FreeBSD and, say, Gentoo. So this will probably work, because I'm only 
using a small portion of the disk at present:

  17 root # df -m
  Filesystem  1M-blocks Used Avail Capacity  Mounted on
  /dev/ad0s1a   247  123   10454%/
  devfs   00 0   100%/dev
  /dev/ad0s1g  89310  8216 0%/home
  /dev/ad0s1e   9890   910 0%/tmp
  /dev/ad0s1f 24790 3621 1918616%/usr
  /dev/ad0s1d   989   37   872 4%/var
What is a good way to make space on my disk? If I just repartition /usr and 
/home, I'll probably screw them up. So if I tar up  each of the partitions, and 
maybe etc and some other junk as well, and then:

  1. Reformat and reinstall. Put on Gentoo and BSD.
  2. Go into the BSD slice and nuke everything, then unpack my tarballs.
do I have a good chance of everything working right?
- Jason
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Re: Newbieish Desktop Questions

2004-07-10 Thread Danny MacMillan
On Sat, Jul 10, 2004 at 08:02:22AM -0600, Kristian Holdich wrote:

 ...
 
 There's one glaring problem with that, if for some reason you need to go
 into single user mode under FreeBSD's default slicing scheme root wont
 have a shell as /usr isn't mounted. It's always good practice to keep
 the shell root uses in /sbin or /bin.

 ...

If your concern is that you won't be able to log in to single-user mode,
consider that you will be prompted for a shell in any case (at least I
am).  If your concern is that you would like to have bash available in
single user mode as well, make sure it is statically linked.  If you will
be installing from ports, the following should work (if I'm reading the
Makefile correctly):

cd /usr/ports/shells/bash2
make -DWANT_STATIC_BASH install clean

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upgrade failure..

2004-07-10 Thread kinux
Hi,

i  have install freebsd 4.9 on a old AMD box, i have been cvsup download the source 
code, then upgrade it to 4.10 stable but failure at 
make buildkernel KERNCONF=test
i give following error
cc -c -O -pipe  -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes  -W
missing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual  -fformat-extensions -an
si  -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include -I/usr/src/sys/co
ntrib/dev/acpica -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter  -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.
h  -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2  /usr/src/sys/isofs/cd9660/cd9660_node.c
cc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 4
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/people.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
===
Then i comment out CD9660 two line in kernel as no CD_ROM on my box.
make clean == recompile
But error come again.
=== md
cc -O -pipe  -include /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/people/opt_global.h -D_KERNEL -Wall -
Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes  -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpo
inter-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual  -fformat-extensions -ansi -DKLD_MODULE -nostdi
nc -I-  -I. -I@ -I@/../include  -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -Wall -Wredundant-d
ecls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes  -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith
-Winline -Wcast-qual  -fformat-extensions -ansi -c /usr/src/sys/modules/md/../..
/dev/md/md.c
cc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules/md.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/people.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
==
i Comment out the two line in kernel with MD
make clean == recompile
and the next error..

=== accf_http
cc -O -pipe  -include /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/people/opt_global.h -D_KERNEL -Wall -
Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes  -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpo
inter-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual  -fformat-extensions -ansi -DKLD_MODULE -nostdi
nc -I-  -I. -I@ -I@/../include  -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -Wall -Wredundant-d
ecls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes  -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith
-Winline -Wcast-qual  -fformat-extensions -ansi -c /usr/src/sys/modules/accf_htt
p/../../netinet/accf_http.c
cc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules/accf_http.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/people.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.

This time i have no idea on this error, it seems the compiler problem OR hardware 
problem, not sure...
%dmesg | grep CPU
CPU: AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor (350.80-MHz 586-class CPU)

in my kernel
machine i386
#cpuI386_CPU
#cpuI486_CPU
cpu I586_CPU
#cpuI686_CPU
ident   test
maxusers64
 
What will be the problem??  Does it need to edit something in /etc/make.conf for AMD 
CPU or setting something on gcc??

Thanks.
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HDD Sizes reported wrong?

2004-07-10 Thread Steven Adams
Hey,

 

I have a LSI MegaRaid Raid card with 5x 36gig raid 5 scsi drives..

 

This gives me 144gig of  useable space. 133 GIG if u do the 1024 bytes
calucation.

So really its 133gig of useable space all up.

 

Now my /home is getting reported at 108gig(which is right) But for some
reason its saying 97gig free and 2.4 gig used.. 

Im confussed where the other 8.5gig or so is gone??

 

First I thought it counted the bytes in 1000 not 1024.. But even saying that
I should have more space then I have..

 

/dev/amrd0s1a   2.9G50M   2.6G 2%/

devfs   1.0K   1.0K 0B   100%/dev

/dev/amrd0s1h   108G   2.4G97G 2%/home

/dev/amrd0s1g   871M34K   801M 0%/tmp

/dev/amrd0s1d   4.4G   1.2G   2.8G31%/usr

/dev/amrd0s1e   1.9G27M   1.8G 1%/var

/dev/amrd0s1f13G   2.1M12G 0%/var/log

 

Thanks

Steve

 

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Re: HDD Sizes reported wrong?

2004-07-10 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Jul 11), Steven Adams said:
 I have a LSI MegaRaid Raid card with 5x 36gig raid 5 scsi drives..
 
 Now my /home is getting reported at 108gig(which is right) But for
 some reason its saying 97gig free and 2.4 gig used..
 
 Im confussed where the other 8.5gig or so is gone??
 
 /dev/amrd0s1h   108G   2.4G97G 2%/home

First, I recommend not using the -h option when trying to total things
up.  You lose lots of precision.  Second, the df values don't total up
because 8% is reserved on ffs filesystems so the disk allocation
algorithms stay efficient.  You can lower it with tunefs but as the
disk gets closer to 100%, performance rapidly degrades and files will
get fragmented.  Root can use that 8% which gives you the added benefit
that if a user fills up a drive it doesn't keep root processes from
working. 

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html#DISK-MORE-THAN-FULL

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