Re: Re: uname -v shows no difference after buildkernel and installkernel etc

[August Simonelli]

On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 13:32:19 +1000, August Simonelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 22:11:47 -0500, Donald J. O'Neill
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > August,
> >
> > I've been following this thread today. It's very interesting. It appears
> > to me, you mentioned your mistake in your first post.
> >  "did a mergemaster and didn't accept any changes (it was a fresh
> >  system) rebooted and logged in"
> > Without accepting those changes, you kept what you had. It wasn't a
> 
> This is what is confusing me about mergemaster. Isn't it "just" for
> comparing and deciding which config files one wants kept? That is, if
> I have a modifed pkgtools.conf or rc.conf or whatever I should be able
> to merge it up with the newly rebuilt system (which would have fresh
> versions of such files). Or I could just tell it to keep my old config
> files cause they have all my modifications. I do get that the new conf
> files may have changes we need, so merging is better. Now, why am i
> babbling about this? Cause when doing the mergemaster on this system
> my fingers got really fat and I'm not sure how I answered. Maybe this
> lead to my problem. Would that cause a) the wrong kernel to be
> installed or just b) the wrong kernel to be reported (ie did i screw
> up the update of the file that stores the kernel details?).
> 
> Also, just for clarification, it WAS a fresh system, so, in theory,
> mergemaster would not have had any changes to make (except if it
> updates some text string somwhere that is the basis for the uname -v,
> as in my  and b options above).
> 
> Sorry if this is painfully ignorant; I'm learning slowly! :-)
> 
> > fresh system and needed the information from mergemaster. If you didn't
> > clear out /usr/obj, it might be possible to rerun mergemaster and
> > accept the changes. I would keep MYCUSTOM somewhere other
> > than /root/kernels. Personally, I use /home/save4rebuild, and keep a
> > copy of everything else I think I might need. I've had to
> > reinstall /, /var, /tmp, /usr, but I always manage to keep /home safe.
> 
> This seems to be what most people are saying ... and i think it makes
> more sense. I have officially adopted save4rebuild for my systems! :-)
> 
> back to me rebuild (celeron 433 is a bit slw).

well, the rebuild has worked fine. i think my symlinking was indeed
messed up. i followed everyone's advice and didn't use a symlink; I
kept my custom config in the same location as GENERIC and just copied
it elsewhere for backup purposes.

one last question for those tracking the this thread: can i now delete
the custom kernel config file i created in /usr/src/sys/i386/src/ ? or
does the system need it there to boot? i would guess not, more that
the file is only used in building and installing ...

thanks again for all the good advice ...

august
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Re: where to find what a port will try to download

[Peter Ryan]

--- Rowdy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Peter Ryan wrote:
> 
> > Hi Matthew,
> > 
> > I am trying to find out which files a port
> > will try to download.
> > 
> > E.g. JDK14.  The Makefile has parameterised
> > distfiles and I cant see where the parameters
> > are resolved. I have looked in the other 
> > package files and cant see anything.
> > 
> > I while back, when I knew less than nothing about
> > cvsup, you mentioned that the JDK14 port now used 
> > a newer file from Sun.  (the '_05' instead of the
> > '_04' I was looking for)
> > 
> > How did you know the port wanted the newer file ?
> > 
> > And how did you find out the exact name ?
> > 
> > Thanks
> > Peter
> 
> I'm not sure about the specific example above, but in general you
> can:
> 
> cd /usr/ports/x/y
> make fetch-recursive-list
> 
> That will spit out a list of fetch statements complete with
> alternative
> URLs for all source files needed to compile/install a port.
> 
> Dave


aha.. thanks.. that sounds perfect
regards
Peter
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kernel compile

[Cristi Tauber]

 hi all,
I compile a 5.2.1 release's kernel with IPFIREWALL and IPSEC (?
IPSEC_ESP). I compiled the kernel w/o errors i rebooted and everything
works great. I mention that I do not installed any IPSEC software at
that time. I downloaded qmail ? ucspi and try to install. After ucspi I
had to reboot the server in order to start svscan. Now is my problem ...
the server is not booting with the error :

 /etc/rc: WARNING : /etc/ipsec.conf not readable; ipsec start aborted

  (OK ... i dont want ipsec right now)

ERROR: ABORTING BOOT (sending SIGTERM to parent)!
/bin/sh on /etc/rc terminated abnormally, going to single mode

   A tried to recompile the kernel without IPSEC and even
without IPFIREWALL ... i get the same error . What's wrong ???

 thanks in advance

Cristi

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Re: where to find what a port will try to download

[Peter Ryan]

> | I am trying to find out which files a port will try to download.
> 
> So umm your trying to figure out the dependencies of a package?
> 
> 
> | E.g. JDK14.  The Makefile has parameterised distfiles and I cant
> see
> | where the parameters are resolved. I have looked in the other
> package
> | files and cant see anything.
> |
> | I while back, when I knew less than nothing about cvsup, you
> | mentioned that the JDK14 port now used a newer file from Sun. 
> (the
> | '_05' instead of the '_04' I was looking for)
> |
> | How did you know the port wanted the newer file ?
> |
> | And how did you find out the exact name ?
> |
> | Thanks
> 
> Well if you look at freshports and the jdk14 port:
> http://www.freshports.org/java/jdk14/ you can see that packages
> dependencies, and if you look at the linux-jdk package it depends on
> you
> can see:
> 
> "IGNORE: You must manually fetch the J2SE SDK self-extracting
> file for the Linux platform (j2sdk-1_4_2_05-linux-i586.bin)"
> 
> In the freshports site it details the differnt versions and when
> they
> were changed/updated. Is this what you were looking for?

Hi Will - thanks. I can see the _05 file easily, but
looking at freshports for jdk14, I cant see the other 
files that are downloaded into distfiles (eg, there are 
3 more j2sdk* files required as well).

Taking one as an example - j2sdk-1_4_2-src-scsl.zip.
It is not at all clear to me where this file is named
as part of the jdk14 download, or even where it appears
in the Makefile.

Any other clues ?

Many thanks
Peter


are defined as part of jdk14.  
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Re: FreeBSD Certifications? Does it exist?

[Vulpes Velox]

On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 00:33:36 -0400
Bob Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> >They offer training and classes that come with a cert afterwards,
> >from what I can tell. Would be nice just to see a place that offers
> >just a cert and no classes.
> >
> >  
> >
> If I read the site correctly, they offer both classroom and, what
> they call, eLearning for their Distance Learning students.

Unless they are offering a major difference in price, it still looks
like way to much for just a cert and still a class.
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Re: where to find what a port will try to download

[Will]

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Peter Ryan wrote:
| Hi Matthew,
|
| I am trying to find out which files a port will try to download.
So umm your trying to figure out the dependencies of a package?
| E.g. JDK14.  The Makefile has parameterised distfiles and I cant see
| where the parameters are resolved. I have looked in the other package
| files and cant see anything.
|
| I while back, when I knew less than nothing about cvsup, you
| mentioned that the JDK14 port now used a newer file from Sun.  (the
| '_05' instead of the '_04' I was looking for)
|
| How did you know the port wanted the newer file ?
|
| And how did you find out the exact name ?
|
| Thanks
Well if you look at freshports and the jdk14 port:
http://www.freshports.org/java/jdk14/ you can see that packages
dependencies, and if you look at the linux-jdk package it depends on you
can see:
"IGNORE: You must manually fetch the J2SE SDK self-extracting
file for the Linux platform (j2sdk-1_4_2_05-linux-i586.bin)"
In the freshports site it details the differnt versions and when they
were changed/updated. Is this what you were looking for?
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Re: X issue

[Vulpes Velox]

On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 23:00:47 -0500
"Dustin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm having some issues, I believe with XFree86.  I just installed
> FreeBSD 5.2.1 Rel, installed XFree86 v 4.3.0, then ran CVsup to
> update my ports tree, then installed Fluxbox from ports.  I managed
> to configure it well enough to get into Fluxbox, but when I exited
> out from X, the system would hang.  I ended up having to hard-shut
> it down after it hung.  Now I cannot get back into X.  When I run
> 'startx', the system hangs. What kind of things can I try now?

I have had this happen once or twice... when you power back up you may
find your config file X wasted(happened to me once)... you may also
want to recompile the Xserver possibly too.


BTW what video card and options set for it? I noticed the older nvidia
drivers seemed more proned to going flaky than the newer ones have
been so far.
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Re: FreeBSD Certifications? Does it exist?

[Bob Perry]

Vulpes Velox wrote:
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 23:37:51 -0400
Bob Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

Vulpes Velox wrote:
   

On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 16:48:48 -0400
"JJB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

   

I am wondering if there is any official cert or course for BSD


 

style
  

   

operating systems. Something like RedHat RHCE in Linux and their
official courses
Having a paper on hand doesn't mean you know and
NOT having also doesn't mean you don't know,
But most employer now days look for that paper


 

Human Resources looks for the paper, (which may be what gets
you in the door), but the IT manager wants to see what you can do.
   

<>NJIT offers open source unix certification (and it's
recognized/endorsed by
the FreeBSD Foundation)
http://cpe.njit.edu/noncredit/#opensourceunix
avaiable both online and in classroom.
 

ICK! seems a little pricey if you just want a cert...
 

Write them a note and see what they can offer you that you can't
find elsewhere, I am.
   

They offer training and classes that come with a cert afterwards, from
what I can tell. Would be nice just to see a place that offers just a
cert and no classes.
 

If I read the site correctly, they offer both classroom and, what
they call, eLearning for their Distance Learning students.
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Re: FreeBSD Certifications? Does it exist?

[Vulpes Velox]

On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 23:37:51 -0400
Bob Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Vulpes Velox wrote:
> 
> >On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 16:48:48 -0400
> >"JJB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >  
> >
> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>I am wondering if there is any official cert or course for BSD
> >>>  
> >>>
> >>style
> >>
> >>
> >>>operating systems. Something like RedHat RHCE in Linux and their
> >>>official courses
> >>>
> >>>Having a paper on hand doesn't mean you know and
> >>>NOT having also doesn't mean you don't know,
> >>>But most employer now days look for that paper
> >>>  
> >>>
> Human Resources looks for the paper, (which may be what gets
> you in the door), but the IT manager wants to see what you can do.
> 
> >>> <>NJIT offers open source unix certification (and it's
> >>> recognized/endorsed by
> >>> the FreeBSD Foundation)
> >>>
> >>> http://cpe.njit.edu/noncredit/#opensourceunix
> >>>
> >>> avaiable both online and in classroom.
> >>
> >
> >ICK! seems a little pricey if you just want a cert...
> >  
> >
> Write them a note and see what they can offer you that you can't
> find elsewhere, I am.

They offer training and classes that come with a cert afterwards, from
what I can tell. Would be nice just to see a place that offers just a
cert and no classes.
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X issue

[Dustin]

I'm having some issues, I believe with XFree86.  I just installed FreeBSD 5.2.1 Rel, 
installed XFree86 v 4.3.0, then ran CVsup to update my ports tree, then installed 
Fluxbox from ports.  I managed to configure it well enough to get into Fluxbox, but 
when I exited out from X, the system would hang.  I ended up having to hard-shut it 
down after it hung.  Now I cannot get back into X.  When I run 'startx', the system 
hangs.
What kind of things can I try now?
 
Thanks,
Dustin
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where to find what a port will try to download

[Peter Ryan]

Hi Matthew,

I am trying to find out which files a port
will try to download.

E.g. JDK14.  The Makefile has parameterised
distfiles and I cant see where the parameters
are resolved. I have looked in the other 
package files and cant see anything.

I while back, when I knew less than nothing about
cvsup, you mentioned that the JDK14 port now used 
a newer file from Sun.  (the '_05' instead of the
'_04' I was looking for)

How did you know the port wanted the newer file ?

And how did you find out the exact name ?

Thanks
Peter
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Re: FreeBSD Certifications? Does it exist?

[Bob Perry]

Vulpes Velox wrote:
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 16:48:48 -0400
"JJB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   

I am wondering if there is any official cert or course for BSD
 

style
   

operating systems. Something like RedHat RHCE in Linux and their
official courses
Having a paper on hand doesn't mean you know and
NOT having also doesn't mean you don't know,
But most employer now days look for that paper
 

Human Resources looks for the paper, (which may be what gets
you in the door), but the IT manager wants to see what you can do.
<>NJIT offers open source unix certification (and it's
recognized/endorsed by
the FreeBSD Foundation)
http://cpe.njit.edu/noncredit/#opensourceunix
avaiable both online and in classroom.

ICK! seems a little pricey if you just want a cert...
 

Write them a note and see what they can offer you that you can't
find elsewhere, I am.
Bob Perry
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Re: Re: uname -v shows no difference after buildkernel and installkernel etc

[August Simonelli]

On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 22:11:47 -0500, Donald J. O'Neill
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> August,
> 
> I've been following this thread today. It's very interesting. It appears
> to me, you mentioned your mistake in your first post.
>  "did a mergemaster and didn't accept any changes (it was a fresh
>  system) rebooted and logged in"
> Without accepting those changes, you kept what you had. It wasn't a

This is what is confusing me about mergemaster. Isn't it "just" for
comparing and deciding which config files one wants kept? That is, if
I have a modifed pkgtools.conf or rc.conf or whatever I should be able
to merge it up with the newly rebuilt system (which would have fresh
versions of such files). Or I could just tell it to keep my old config
files cause they have all my modifications. I do get that the new conf
files may have changes we need, so merging is better. Now, why am i
babbling about this? Cause when doing the mergemaster on this system
my fingers got really fat and I'm not sure how I answered. Maybe this
lead to my problem. Would that cause a) the wrong kernel to be
installed or just b) the wrong kernel to be reported (ie did i screw
up the update of the file that stores the kernel details?).

Also, just for clarification, it WAS a fresh system, so, in theory,
mergemaster would not have had any changes to make (except if it
updates some text string somwhere that is the basis for the uname -v,
as in my  and b options above).

Sorry if this is painfully ignorant; I'm learning slowly! :-)

> fresh system and needed the information from mergemaster. If you didn't
> clear out /usr/obj, it might be possible to rerun mergemaster and
> accept the changes. I would keep MYCUSTOM somewhere other
> than /root/kernels. Personally, I use /home/save4rebuild, and keep a
> copy of everything else I think I might need. I've had to
> reinstall /, /var, /tmp, /usr, but I always manage to keep /home safe.

This seems to be what most people are saying ... and i think it makes
more sense. I have officially adopted save4rebuild for my systems! :-)

back to me rebuild (celeron 433 is a bit slw).

august
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top: nlist failed

[Chern Lee]

I recently upgraded a machine to 4.10-RELEASE-p2 from a fresh /usr/src 
from cvsup.

$ top
top: nlist failed
$ systat
  systat: nlist: can't find following symbols:
  _ccpu
  _fscale
$ vmstat
vmstat: undefined symbols:
 _kmemstatistics _bucket _zlist
$ uname -a
FreeBSD host3 4.10-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 4.10-RELEASE-p2 #0: 
Tue Aug 24 19:46:34 PDT 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/HOST3  i386

I've taken a look at:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/troubleshoot.html#NLIST-FAILED
and ruled out the first problem since the kernel and world are 
being compiled from the same branch/date.

Any ideas?
- chern
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Re: uname -v shows no difference after buildkernel and installkernel etc

[Donald J. O'Neill]

August,

I've been following this thread today. It's very interesting. It appears 
to me, you mentioned your mistake in your first post.
 "did a mergemaster and didn't accept any changes (it was a fresh
 system) rebooted and logged in"
Without accepting those changes, you kept what you had. It wasn't a 
fresh system and needed the information from mergemaster. If you didn't 
clear out /usr/obj, it might be possible to rerun mergemaster and 
accept the changes. I would keep MYCUSTOM somewhere other 
than /root/kernels. Personally, I use /home/save4rebuild, and keep a 
copy of everything else I think I might need. I've had to 
reinstall /, /var, /tmp, /usr, but I always manage to keep /home safe.

Don


==
On Tuesday 24 August 2004 08:08 pm, August Simonelli wrote:

> > Does the modification time coincide with the time you actually
> > built your custom kernel?
>
> 94214 -r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  5940286 Feb 24  2004
> /boot/kernel/kernel
>
> So it's the old one ... now, this is good, because on my other test
> system the kernel date is correct and uname -v is correct ... so,
> i've done something wrong and am gonna try it again ... i'm doing it
> at work and probably too distracted by my annoying users! :-)
>
> thanks for you help ... wish me luck on my second attempt!
>
> august
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Re: FreeBSD Certifications? Does it exist?

[Vulpes Velox]

On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 16:48:48 -0400
"JJB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I am wondering if there is any official cert or course for BSD
> style
> > operating systems. Something like RedHat RHCE in Linux and their
> > official courses
> >
> > Having a paper on hand doesn't mean you know and
> > NOT having also doesn't mean you don't know,
> > But most employer now days look for that paper
> >
> >
> >
> 
> NJIT offers open source unix certification (and it's
> recognized/endorsed by
> the FreeBSD Foundation)
> 
> http://cpe.njit.edu/noncredit/#opensourceunix
> 
> avaiable both online and in classroom.

ICK! seems a little pricey if you just want a cert...
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Re: Embedded freebsd How to?

[Gerard Samuel]

Murray Taylor wrote:
On Tue, 2004-08-24 at 23:26, Gerard Samuel wrote:
Andrew L. Gould wrote:
On Monday 23 August 2004 11:21 pm, Gerard Samuel wrote:

Andrew L. Gould wrote:

On Monday 23 August 2004 07:41 pm, Gerard Samuel wrote:

Well I've been using FBSD since 3.4, and I would like to
try my hand at trying to put together an embedded FBSD system.
I browsed the -small mailing list, but there doesnt seem to be
any relevant up to date data there (I may be mistaken).
I did a bit of googling, but Im not finding what Im looking
for.
I kept running into "Embedded FreeBSD Cookbook".  Anyone thoughts
on this book.
But other than that, are there any online how to tutorial,
that would show an almost beginner on how to get started.
Thanks for any input you may provide...
Go to http://soekris.com/ and click on Support.  You'll find some
tutorials on installing FreeBSD on their embedded boards.  One of
the tutorials is "miniBSD - reducing FreeBSD".
Also, Michael Lucas has an article on installing OpenBSD on one of
their boards:
http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2004/03/11/Big_Scary_Daemons.html
Best of luck,
Seems my options are limited, but thanks for the links...

I don't think you're options are limited.  These are just examples that 
have come to the attention of someone who does NOT do embedded stuff.


Understood.  What I meant by "limited" was that it seems (with respect 
to hardware), it seems like the hardware side of things isn't as 
widespread as I thought it would have been (compared to *normal* 
hardware, aka AT/ATX etc).
I was previously aware of soekris through mOrOwall (which gave me the 
idea of putting one together myself).
But then again, I've only begun searching yesterday, so what do I know :)

Thanks once again...
miniBSD runs fine on the Advantech WEB-2143 (and probably also on the
later cousins). We run it in 14Mb of a 32Mb CF card as a bridging
firewall among other things.
http://neon1.net/misc/minibsd.html
for the 'recipe' .. be very aware of the static / dynamic libraries
on the development box .. sigh
Thanks.  I got the Advantech page bookmarked.
After some searching around, I came across this ->
http://www.via.com.tw/en/VInternet/mini_itx.jsp as a platform.
So the research continues...
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Re: uname -v shows no difference after buildkernel and installkernel etc

[August Simonelli]

> 
> I apologize, when you said:
> 
> "... did a custom kernel (placing in /root/kernels ..."
> 
> I took it too literally, thinking that for some odd reason you had put
> the actual built (binary) kernel into /root/kernels and were symlinking
> from /boot/kernel to that directory, as opposed to simply putting the
> kernel config file there.  However, is it just a typing mistake that you
> say you link to MYKERNEL, but you say the actual links points to

Nah, just me being sloppy in my syntax; I got the names right
(luckily) during the actual build (or did i ... interesting ...).

> MYCUSTOM?  Also, what does an `ls -l /boot/kernel/kernel` reveal?  Does
> the modification time coincide with the time you actually built your
> custom kernel?

94214 -r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  5940286 Feb 24  2004 /boot/kernel/kernel

So it's the old one ... now, this is good, because on my other test
system the kernel date is correct and uname -v is correct ... so, i've
done something wrong and am gonna try it again ... i'm doing it at
work and probably too distracted by my annoying users! :-)

thanks for you help ... wish me luck on my second attempt!

august
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Re: Bash programming, copy only onefile?

[Giorgos Keramidas]

On 2004-08-24 17:15, Nathan Kinkade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 25, 2004 at 12:16:17AM +0200, Joachim Dagerot wrote:
> > A quiz easy to write, hard to answer?
> >
> > In bash, how can I write a command that moves the oldest file in a
> > directory to a new direction?
>
> Here is one possible way, certainly there are many others:
>
> # ls -t /path/to/dir | tail -n 1 | xargs -i{} cp {} /path/to/location

In FreeBSD 5.X there's also stat(1) which can print the modification
time of files in a numeric format and can be used in pipes like this:

% stat -f '%m %N' * | sort -n | head -1 | cut -d ' ' -f 2-

This should print the filename of the file with the oldest modification
time.  Access time or creation time can also be shown using the -f 'fmt'
argument of stat(1) but details about that can be found in the stat(1)
manpage.

- Giorgos

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Re: cvsup

[stheg olloydson]

it was said:

>BTW!  After updating to 4-STABLE do I then perform all the following 
>steps?
>
>Go to /usr/src
>enter the command: make buildworld KERNCONF=yourkernelname
>then: make kernel
>reboot
>go to /usr/src and type: make installworld
>
>And what is a good kernel name?  Maybe in this case, kernel.STABLE ?

Hello,

Aaahhh...no. You are leaving out steps. To clarify, in /usr/src, do
this:
make buildworld
make buildkernel KERNCONF=WHATEVER (your edited conf file)
make installkernel KERNCONF=WHATEVER

mergemaster -p
make installworld
mergemaster


See
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-building.html
(URL may have wrapped)
just to be sure you haven't forgotten anything.

A couple of notes: The supfile you are using does NOT update your
ports. Speaking of which, using a refuse file is not "recommended"
because . The
kernel name doesn't really matter if you do not swap kernels between
machines and use different names (e.g. KERN1, KERN2) so you know which
one you're running. Finally, I like to use script(1) to write a file to
/var when I do builds so I can go back and actually read the WARNING:
messages that whiz by and scare the bejesus out of me at 4:00 AM.




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Re: apsfilter and Epson Stylus C63 on Current

[Chip]

edwinculp wrote:
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Just to check, you have removed the base install's lp* utilities 
right?
No, I must have read over, under, around and/or through that in the 
cups howto's I been using.

Let me be sure that I am understanding.  I should remove lpd, lpq, 
lpc, lpr, lprm and family to use cups?

That could definitely be the problem because I have't done it.
Thanks, I'll give it a try in a few.

Nope, didn't work or even change anything.  I can still print the cups test page and 
anything form gimp but nothing through the cups configuration nor can I configure the 
C63 with apsfilter because it isn't in gs although ijs is compiled in and there must 
be a way to use the gimp-print driver through gs or update apsfilter to use the new 
gimp-print drivers but I haven't found either.
Thanks again, Anish, for the suggestion.
ed
I'm interested in this also. I used Apsfilter to set up an Epson C62 
that works fine except for printing email - it prints the ps code. I 
print web pages, .pdf files and .txt files fine. I haven't tested 
anything else, I mainly need the ability to print emails more than 
anything else. I have the same problem with a Lexmark E312 LazerJet. I 
haven't tried Cups, don't know the first thing about it.
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Re: cvsup

[Eric Brunner-Williams]

I think he said he wants to cross the 4.x|5.x boundary as well.
I haven't done that for several months, before and after the
gcc version cut-over. He may need current guidance on that.

FWIW, I'm going to be upgrading a mono-processor to the beta,
but I'll be going the jrandom-5.x CD install, then cvsup'ing
to the desired tag. Going 4.x to 5.x was memorable. I think
that's when I started reading some of the directions.

Eric
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Re: cvsup

[Warren Block]

On Tue, 24 Aug 2004, Curtis Vaughan wrote:
BTW!  After updating to 4-STABLE do I then perform all the following steps?
Go to /usr/src
enter the command: make buildworld KERNCONF=yourkernelname
then: make kernel
reboot
go to /usr/src and type: make installworld
No:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html
The overview from the Handbook goes like this:
# make buildworld
# make buildkernel
# make installkernel
# reboot
   You should boot in single user mode (using boot -s from loader prompt
   for example). Then run:
# mergemaster -p
# make installworld
# mergemaster
# reboot
(I don't boot into single user there, but it's definitely a good thing 
to do.)

-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
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Re: no user interface

[stheg olloydson]

it was said:

>I just installed 5.2.1 via download onto cdr media. I left about 10
>gigs 
>open for freebsd, and left 9 for my win2000. the dual boot works fine
>on my 
>dell laptop, however when i go to load freebsd 5.2.1, i cant get into
>a 
>graphical interface. Instead it stays in a "dos-like" interface with 
>commands only. It recognizes my user name and the admin name of root,
>but 
>there is only a command line and no background. i installed cd1, i
>have a 
>boot only and a second disc which i have not installed. please point
>me in 
>the correct direction
>
>james heck

Hello,

On the off chance you're not trolling, Welcome to FreeBSD! That
"dos-like" interface _IS_ the user interface. The "graphical" interface
you incomprehensibly seem to have expected is the X window system. That
is an add-on that runs on top of FreeBSD (much like MS Windows runs on
top of MS-DOS). You will most likely want to run something along the
lines of KDE or Gnome. Those are desktop environments somewhat similar
to what you're used to. However, if you think that you will be using
wizards and clicking thru dialogs, you are in for quite a surprise
because you're not in Redmond any more. Remember, *nix Is user
friendly; it's just particular about who its friends are.

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html

Regards,

Stheg

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Re: cvsup

[Curtis Vaughan]

On 24 Aug, 2004, at 16:07, stheg olloydson wrote:
it was said:
Ok, just to be certain about this.
I have 4.8 installed and am about to do a cvsup
here is my stable-supfile

*default host=cvsup1.us.freebsd.org
*default base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup
*default prefix=/usr
*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4
*default delete use-rel-suffix
src-all

And I put my refuse file in /usr/local/etc/cvsup/sup/

Am I ready to roll?

Hello,
If you mean are you ready to update your base system to 4-STABLE, then
yes, you're ready to roll. If you mean are you ready to update your
entire system to the latest production release, then, no, you're not
ready to roll.
What are you trying to accomplish?
Regards,
Stheg
Right, just to 4-STABLE for now.  After this I want to then try to 
upgrade to 5.x.  Let's see how this goes first.

Thanks!
BTW!  After updating to 4-STABLE do I then perform all the following 
steps?

Go to /usr/src
enter the command: make buildworld KERNCONF=yourkernelname
then: make kernel
reboot
go to /usr/src and type: make installworld
And what is a good kernel name?  Maybe in this case, kernel.STABLE ?
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Re: Bash programming, copy only onefile?

[Nathan Kinkade]

On Wed, Aug 25, 2004 at 12:16:17AM +0200, Joachim Dagerot wrote:
> A quiz easy to write, hard to answer?
> 
> In bash, how can I write a command that moves the oldest file in a
> directory to a new direction?

Here is one possible way, certainly there are many others:

# ls -t /path/to/dir | tail -n 1 | xargs -i{} cp {} /path/to/location

Nathan
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Re: Embedded freebsd How to?

[Murray Taylor]

On Tue, 2004-08-24 at 23:26, Gerard Samuel wrote:
> Andrew L. Gould wrote:
> > On Monday 23 August 2004 11:21 pm, Gerard Samuel wrote:
> > 
> >>Andrew L. Gould wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Monday 23 August 2004 07:41 pm, Gerard Samuel wrote:
> >>>
> Well I've been using FBSD since 3.4, and I would like to
> try my hand at trying to put together an embedded FBSD system.
> I browsed the -small mailing list, but there doesnt seem to be
> any relevant up to date data there (I may be mistaken).
> I did a bit of googling, but Im not finding what Im looking
> for.
> I kept running into "Embedded FreeBSD Cookbook".  Anyone thoughts
> on this book.
> But other than that, are there any online how to tutorial,
> that would show an almost beginner on how to get started.
> 
> Thanks for any input you may provide...
> >>>
> >>>Go to http://soekris.com/ and click on Support.  You'll find some
> >>>tutorials on installing FreeBSD on their embedded boards.  One of
> >>>the tutorials is "miniBSD - reducing FreeBSD".
> >>>
> >>>Also, Michael Lucas has an article on installing OpenBSD on one of
> >>>their boards:
> >>>http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2004/03/11/Big_Scary_Daemons.html
> >>>
> >>>Best of luck,
> >>
> >>Seems my options are limited, but thanks for the links...
> > 
> > 
> > I don't think you're options are limited.  These are just examples that 
> > have come to the attention of someone who does NOT do embedded stuff.
> > 
> >
> 
> Understood.  What I meant by "limited" was that it seems (with respect 
> to hardware), it seems like the hardware side of things isn't as 
> widespread as I thought it would have been (compared to *normal* 
> hardware, aka AT/ATX etc).
> I was previously aware of soekris through mOrOwall (which gave me the 
> idea of putting one together myself).
> But then again, I've only begun searching yesterday, so what do I know :)
> 
> Thanks once again...
miniBSD runs fine on the Advantech WEB-2143 (and probably also on the
later cousins). We run it in 14Mb of a 32Mb CF card as a bridging
firewall among other things.

http://neon1.net/misc/minibsd.html
for the 'recipe' .. be very aware of the static / dynamic libraries
on the development box .. sigh

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Re: uname -v shows no difference after buildkernel and installkernel etc

[Nathan Kinkade]

On Wed, Aug 25, 2004 at 08:32:48AM +1000, August Simonelli wrote:
> > > August
> > 
> > What does your symlink look like?  So you put the newly built kernel in
> > /root/kernels, then did something like?:
> > 
> > # ln -s /root/kernels/mykernel /boot/kernel/kernel
> 
> 
> I followed the example in 8.3:
> 
> # cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf
> # mkdir /root/kernels
> # cp GENERIC /root/kernels/MYKERNEL   
> # ln -s /root/kernels/MYKERNEL
> 
> so now I have the following symlink:
> 
> /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/MYCUSTOM -> /root/kernels/MYCUSTOM
> 
> and I built and installed with that as my KERNCONF value. I do still
> have GENERIC sitting in that directory. Does it use GENERIC first by
> default?
> 
> Thanks again,
> 
> august

I apologize, when you said:

"... did a custom kernel (placing in /root/kernels ..."

I took it too literally, thinking that for some odd reason you had put
the actual built (binary) kernel into /root/kernels and were symlinking
from /boot/kernel to that directory, as opposed to simply putting the
kernel config file there.  However, is it just a typing mistake that you
say you link to MYKERNEL, but you say the actual links points to
MYCUSTOM?  Also, what does an `ls -l /boot/kernel/kernel` reveal?  Does
the modification time coincide with the time you actually built your
custom kernel?

Nathan

Side note
-
I once tried the advice to put custom kernel config files at a
subdirectory of /root, but personally found this more confusing in the
long run.  In about 5 years of running FreeBSD and building custom
kernels I have never deleted the entire /usr/src directory and
subsequently realized I had blasted my only copy of a custom kernel
config.  I personally found it to be one more layer of indirection that
hassled me from time to time, and it was one more thing I had to
remember.  If I were worried about the possibility of deleting my custom
kernel config files accidentally while one day recursively removing
/usr/src, then I would personally prefer to just copy that kernel config
to some other location for safe keeping.  It's just my personal
preference.  One of the things that is so distressing to me about
certain GNU/Linux distros is all the levels of indirection and seeming
complexity - symlinks pointing to symlinks and things of that nature.

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Re: cvsup

[stheg olloydson]

it was said: 

>Ok, just to be certain about this.
>
>I have 4.8 installed and am about to do a cvsup
>
>here is my stable-supfile
>
>
>> *default host=cvsup1.us.freebsd.org
>> *default base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup
>> *default prefix=/usr
>> *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4
>> *default delete use-rel-suffix
>>
>> src-all
>>

>And I put my refuse file in /usr/local/etc/cvsup/sup/

>Am I ready to roll?


Hello,

If you mean are you ready to update your base system to 4-STABLE, then
yes, you're ready to roll. If you mean are you ready to update your
entire system to the latest production release, then, no, you're not
ready to roll.
What are you trying to accomplish?

Regards,

Stheg



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Error When Attempting to Use portmanager

[Gerard Seibert]

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GMT 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $


I saw a posting here a while back about 'portmanager'. I decided to give it a 
try. I got it from the ports, and everything seemed all right.

However, when I attempt to run the program, I receive the following error 
message:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ portmanager -u
reading /usr/local/etc/portmanager/pm-020.conf, size 1145
Segmentation fault (core dumped)
Segmentation fault (core dumped)
pmupgrade 0.2.0 error: pmStatus returned an error, cannot continue

Does anyone have a suggestion?

Thanks

Gerard Seibert
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postfix smtp auth TLS , cyrus sasl SSL/TLS

[bruno schwander]

Trying to get cyrus with SSL/TLS, as well as postfix with smtp auth

what I did: follow the howtos
http://postfix.state-of-mind.de/patrick.koetter/smtpauth/sasldb_configuration.html
http://yocum.org/faqs/postfix-tls-sasl.html

things working so far:
I can login to imap accounts using SSL or TLS, and CRAM-MD5, etc. This is
with sasldb, as cyrus is configured with
sasl_pwcheck_method: auxprop

saslauthd is not running.

strange issue: whenever login in successfully, /var/log/messages shows (IP
changed)

Aug 24 13:55:55 www imaps[2004]: login:
adsl-X-X-X.pacbell.net [XX.XX.XX.XX] bruno CRAM-MD5+TLS User logged in

and in /var/log/auth:
Aug 24 13:55:55 www imaps[2004]: no user in db

sasldblistusers2 shows the user is there. Stranger: when
changing/adding/removing users to the sasldb database, I get this in
/var/log/messages:
Aug 24 14:04:37 www saslpasswd2: setpass succeeded for bruno
Aug 24 14:04:37 www saslpasswd2: Couldn't update db
Aug 24 14:04:37 www last message repeated 2 times

I do not know which db is not being updated, because I can list
users, and check they are in there.

Since encrypted login to imaps essentially works, I would not care, but
now that I am trying to get postfix smtp auth working through sasl, I
think it might be an issue.

When trying to login to postfix/smtp, the following message appears in
/var/log/messages:
Aug 24 15:49:50 www postfix/smtpd[2977]: warning: SASL authentication
failure: no user in db
Aug 24 15:49:50 www postfix/smtpd[2977]: warning: SASL authentication
failure: no user in db
Aug 24 15:49:50 www postfix/smtpd[2977]: warning: SASL authentication
failure: no secret in database
Aug 24 15:49:50 www postfix/smtpd[2977]: warning:
XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX.pacbell.net[XX.XX.XX.XX]:
SASL CRAM-MD5
authentication failed

So, the questions are:

- which db is not being updated ?
- why is authentication failing with smtp and not imap ?


Any help greatly appreciated !

bruno

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Re: no user interface

[Hugo Silva]

You do have a user interface, just not a graphical one :-)

Anyway,

You have to manually install/configure the desktop environment..

if you have all the cds, run /stand/sysinstall as root, do post
configuration on freebsd, and add the packages needed (mainly X, and your
graphical environment of choice (kde,gnome,...)


> I just installed 5.2.1 via download onto cdr media. I left about 10 gigs
> open for freebsd, and left 9 for my win2000. the dual boot works fine on
> my
> dell laptop, however when i go to load freebsd 5.2.1, i cant get into a
> graphical interface. Instead it stays in a "dos-like" interface with
> commands only. It recognizes my user name and the admin name of root, but
> there is only a command line and no background. i installed cd1, i have a
> boot only and a second disc which i have not installed. please point me in
> the correct direction
>
> james heck
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Re: no user interface

[Bill Moran]

"james heck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I just installed 5.2.1 via download onto cdr media. I left about 10 gigs 
> open for freebsd, and left 9 for my win2000. the dual boot works fine on my 
> dell laptop, however when i go to load freebsd 5.2.1, i cant get into a 
> graphical interface. Instead it stays in a "dos-like" interface with 
> commands only.

Bite your tongue!

Microsoft tried for _years_ to make the DOS command line as powerful as
a Unix shell and failed miserably.

> It recognizes my user name and the admin name of root, but 
> there is only a command line and no background. i installed cd1, i have a 
> boot only and a second disc which i have not installed. please point me in 
> the correct direction

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11.html

Once you've read that, if you hit problems following the instructions,
don't hesitate to ask specific questions on this list.  We'll be happy
to help.

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cvsup

[Curtis Vaughan]

Ok, just to be certain about this.
I have 4.8 installed and am about to do a cvsup
here is my stable-supfile

*default host=cvsup1.us.freebsd.org
*default base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup
*default prefix=/usr
*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4
*default delete use-rel-suffix
src-all
And I put my refuse file in /usr/local/etc/cvsup/sup/
Am I ready to roll?
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Re: uname -v shows no difference after buildkernel and installkernel etc

[August Simonelli]

> > August
> 
> What does your symlink look like?  So you put the newly built kernel in
> /root/kernels, then did something like?:
> 
> # ln -s /root/kernels/mykernel /boot/kernel/kernel


I followed the example in 8.3:

# cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf
# mkdir /root/kernels
# cp GENERIC /root/kernels/MYKERNEL   
# ln -s /root/kernels/MYKERNEL

so now I have the following symlink:

/usr/src/sys/i386/conf/MYCUSTOM -> /root/kernels/MYCUSTOM

and I built and installed with that as my KERNCONF value. I do still
have GENERIC sitting in that directory. Does it use GENERIC first by
default?

Thanks again,

august
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problem with portupgrade.. or so it seems

[LiQuiD]

Hi all,

I have a machine running 4.10 stable that has a "problem" whenever I try
to run portsdb -Uu.  The message the scrolls down the screen is as
follows:

 /usr/ports/INDEX:11586:Port info line must consist of 10 fields.

That number changes... it basically goes from 0 to that (for all I know)
as I can only go as far back as about 11300

I tried deleting the INDEX, INDEX.db files and such from /usr/ports and
running make index to generate a new one, and I keep getting this error.
I have even tried using a new tool I recently learned of here on this
list called portindex, and I get the same error, except I don't have to
wait 2 hours to see it.

I even went as far as to delete /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db and even rm -rf
/usr/ports/* and using sysinstall to "reinstall" the ports.  I can't
avoid getting that error, and the result is portinstall simply doesn't
work because it can't find any packages.  The odd thing is that another
box had freebsd installed and upgraded to -STABLE at about the same
time, and while it at first had the same error, forcing portsdb to
reconstruct the database worked for that machine, as was suggested on
the man page.  Why on earth wouldn't it work for this other machine?

Thanks in advance for any insight into this


Sandro M. 

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no user interface

[james heck]

I just installed 5.2.1 via download onto cdr media. I left about 10 gigs 
open for freebsd, and left 9 for my win2000. the dual boot works fine on my 
dell laptop, however when i go to load freebsd 5.2.1, i cant get into a 
graphical interface. Instead it stays in a "dos-like" interface with 
commands only. It recognizes my user name and the admin name of root, but 
there is only a command line and no background. i installed cd1, i have a 
boot only and a second disc which i have not installed. please point me in 
the correct direction

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Re: apache permission problem please help

[Nathan Kinkade]

On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 03:09:04PM -0600, RYAN vAN GINNEKEN wrote:
> SEE ERROR BELOW
> 
> Was playing with permissions on my home dirs last night and changed
> everything to chmod 700 had some problem with users looking at and
> copying other users webpages.  I have a directory in each users home
> dir named www where they keep there web files ie
> /usr/home/username/www  so i guess when i changed everything to 700
> apache was unable to use these files.
> 
> Now i have tried the best i can to change everything back set  to
> chmod to 655  and even tried moving a site to /usr/local/www/username
> in hope that apache could read it there but no luck what has happened
> please help.
> 
> Wait now things have started to work, for the web site that i moved to
> /usr/local/www/username. There seems to be some lag  after i make
> changes to the permissions and restart apache is this possible.
> 
> I have a real mess on my hands now guess i will have to play with
> permissions and modes now to get all the sites backup.  How do i set
> up home directories that are secure for each user ie other users on
> the system cannot read them but apache can.  Should i move all web
> pages to the /usr/local/www dir.  Also is there some way to automate
> this so that when i create a new user or modify a file things will
> work correctly.  Have been using UNIX for many years finally got up
> the courage to play with modes and perms.  Guess i  shot myself in the
> foot like i have been warned about by many people and docs.


A better approach would be to set each users home dir itself to 700
permissions, not necessarily all the files and directories in each users
dir. Are you using a httpd.conf directive such as
 to allow users to publish files from
their home dir, or are you putting sym links in the web root?

Nathan
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Bash programming, copy only onefile?

[Joachim Dagerot]

A quiz easy to write, hard to answer?


In bash, how can I write a command that moves the oldest file in a
directory to a new direction?

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Re: sendmail from 4.10-STABLE firewall

[Joe Kraft]

Chuck Swiger wrote:
Joe Kraft wrote:
I'm using a 4.10-STABLE based firewall, which is happily chugging 
along. It's sending it's daily messages to a local account via 
sendmail, which I check by logging in using an ssh connection.
[ ... ]
3) Is there a way to convince sendmail to send to something like 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  I could just put that in my existing aliases file and 
not have to install anything more.

The key part of your request is answered by using IP addrs in square 
brackets, which will not require DNS MX or A lookups.  So, add something 
like:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
...to the ~/.forward file of root or wherever the mail is going to now.  
Yes, you could put this in the aliases, or even use a mailertable to 
redirect all local mail to the other system.

I tried doing it that way and it wouldn't go out either.  I wound up 
adding the 10.0.0.55 server to /etc/hosts and letting sendmail do it's 
lookup there.  I never convinced sendmail to send to to the user foo on 
the 10.0.0.55 server, is that supposed to be possible?

Joe.
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apache permission problem please help

[RYAN vAN GINNEKEN]

SEE ERROR BELOW
Was playing with permissions on my home dirs last night and changed
everything to chmod 700 had some problem with users looking at and
copying other users webpages.  I have a directory in each users home dir
named www where they keep there web files ie /usr/home/username/www  so
i guess when i changed everything to 700 apache was unable to use these
files.
Now i have tried the best i can to change everything back set  to chmod
to 655  and even tried moving a site to /usr/local/www/username in hope
that apache could read it there but no luck what has happened please help.
Wait now things have started to work, for the web site that i moved to
/usr/local/www/username. There seems to be some lag  after i make
changes to the permissions and restart apache is this possible.
I have a real mess on my hands now guess i will have to play with
permissions and modes now to get all the sites backup.  How do i set up
home directories that are secure for each user ie other users on the
system cannot read them but apache can.  Should i move all web pages to
the /usr/local/www dir.  Also is there some way to automate this so that
when i create a new user or modify a file things will work correctly.
Have been using UNIX for many years finally got up the courage to play
with modes and perms.  Guess i  shot myself in the foot like i have been
warned about by many people and docs.
PLEASE HELP
 Forbidden
You don't have permission to access / on this server.
Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use
an ErrorDocument to handle the request.

Apache/2.0.49 (Unix) PHP/4.3.5 mod_ssl/2.0.49 OpenSSL/0.9.7d Server at
v2.computerking.ca Port 80
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Re: apsfilter and Epson Stylus C63 on Current

[edwinculp]

- Mensaje original -
De: edwinculp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Fecha: Martes, Agosto 24, 2004 7:21 am
Asunto: Re: apsfilter and Epson Stylus C63 on Current

> 
> 
> - Mensaje original -
> De: Anish Mistry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Fecha: Lunes, Agosto 23, 2004 11:59 pm
> Asunto: Re: apsfilter and Epson Stylus C63 on Current
> 
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > Hash: SHA1
> > 
> > Just to check, you have removed the base install's lp* utilities 
> > right?
> 
> No, I must have read over, under, around and/or through that in the 
> cups howto's I been using.
> 
> Let me be sure that I am understanding.  I should remove lpd, lpq, 
> lpc, lpr, lprm and family to use cups?
> 
> That could definitely be the problem because I have't done it.
> 
> Thanks, I'll give it a try in a few.
> 

Nope, didn't work or even change anything.  I can still print the cups test page and 
anything form gimp but nothing through the cups configuration nor can I configure the 
C63 with apsfilter because it isn't in gs although ijs is compiled in and there must 
be a way to use the gimp-print driver through gs or update apsfilter to use the new 
gimp-print drivers but I haven't found either.

Thanks again, Anish, for the suggestion.

ed

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apache permission problem please help

[RYAN vAN GINNEKEN]

SEE ERROR BELOW
Was playing with permissions on my home dirs last night and changed 
everything to chmod 700 had some problem with users looking at and 
copying other users webpages.  I have a directory in each users home dir 
named www where they keep there web files ie /usr/home/username/www  so 
i guess when i changed everything to 700 apache was unable to use these 
files.

Now i have tried the best i can to change everything back set  to chmod 
to 655  and even tried moving a site to /usr/local/www/username in hope 
that apache could read it there but no luck what has happened please help.

Wait now things have started to work, for the web site that i moved to 
/usr/local/www/username. There seems to be some lag  after i make 
changes to the permissions and restart apache is this possible.

I have a real mess on my hands now guess i will have to play with 
permissions and modes now to get all the sites backup.  How do i set up 
home directories that are secure for each user ie other users on the 
system cannot read them but apache can.  Should i move all web pages to 
the /usr/local/www dir.  Also is there some way to automate this so that 
when i create a new user or modify a file things will work correctly.  
Have been using UNIX for many years finally got up the courage to play 
with modes and perms.  Guess i  shot myself in the foot like i have been 
warned about by many people and docs.

PLEASE HELP
 Forbidden
You don't have permission to access / on this server.
Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use 
an ErrorDocument to handle the request.


Apache/2.0.49 (Unix) PHP/4.3.5 mod_ssl/2.0.49 OpenSSL/0.9.7d Server at 
v2.computerking.ca Port 80

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RE: FreeBSD Certifications? Does it exist?

[JJB]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I am wondering if there is any official cert or course for BSD
style
> operating systems. Something like RedHat RHCE in Linux and their
> official courses
>
> Having a paper on hand doesn't mean you know and
> NOT having also doesn't mean you don't know,
> But most employer now days look for that paper
>
>
>

NJIT offers open source unix certification (and it's
recognized/endorsed by
the FreeBSD Foundation)

http://cpe.njit.edu/noncredit/#opensourceunix

avaiable both online and in classroom.

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Initial floppy install 5.2.1 fails - error: fatal trap 9

[Martin Laflamme]

Hi,

Initial floppy install with 5.2.1.
We have 12 PCs for a classroom which are completely identical.  They have a P4P800-VM 
motherboard with updated BIOS.  The CPU is Intel 2.8 GHZ.  For the strangest reason, 
the install worked on 1 machine and failed on all the others we tried it on.  It is 
NOT the diskettes as we are using the same physical install diskettes for all these 
machines.  We thought it may be a BIOS problem - we checked the functionning system 
against all the other system - they are identical.  We have one other system which is 
different than the others and the install went also fine.

Now, the install works without a problem with 4.10 floppies.  Any idea?  It seems to 
fail before is starts to detect the pci-isa bridge but it was not an issue with our 
first machine.

pci0:  at device 31.3 (no driver attached)
pci0:  at device 31.5 (no driver attached)

Fatal trap 9: general protection fault while in kernel mode
cpuid = 0; apic id = 00
instruction pointer = 0x58:0x2d6c
stack pointer   = 0x10:0xf80
frame pointer   = 0x10:0x0
code segment= base 0xc00f, limit 0x, type 0x1b
= DPL 0, pres 1, def32 0, gran 0
processor eflags= interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0
current process = 0 (swapper)
trap number = 9
panic: general protection fault

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Re: Reinstalling, then upgrading (Was Re: Salvageable? (Was Re:make installworld error))

[Lowell Gilbert]

Matthew Seaman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> That phrase -- "ports build packages" is just so right on so many
> levels.  Except for the literal description of what actually happens.

It seems that a lot of the supposed confusion of novices comes from
the fact that we don't have a separate word to refer to a port or
package *after* it has been installed.  People make a naive assumption
that the "package database" has something to do with packages but not
with ports...
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FreeBSD Certifications? Does it exist?

[Ara Avvali]

I am wondering if there is any official cert or course for BSD style
operating systems. Something like RedHat RHCE in Linux and their official
courses 

Having a paper on hand doesn't mean you know and 
NOT having also doesn't mean you don't know, 
But most employer now days look for that paper



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Re: Installing ports

[Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P.]

Florian Hengstberger wrote:
Hi!
I'm using FreeBSD 5.2.1 and I'm in trouble with installing software
using the ports collection. After typing "make install" everything 
seems to be okay, but in most cases I get a message like this after
a few minutes:

fetch time out
It seemed to me that the mirror servers are not uptodate or that
some filenames have changed in the meantime, because fetching data
from ftp-servers worked a few times. 
But in nearly all cases I had to copy the files manually in
/usr/ports/distfiles as "make install" finally suggested.

So I installed a new ports-collection with sysinstall over ftp but
things haven't changed. I'm a little confused, because fetching data
from FreeSD ftp-servers doesn't work too (remember that some fetches
were successful!).
Please help me,
Florian
 

A "new ports-collection with sysinstall"?  Maybe someone else
knows if what you really get from that is "new".  Mostly people
seem to use cvsup to update the ports tree.  Try comparing some
of the version number in your /usr/ports/category/program/Makefile
with the ones at ftp.freebsd.org.  Are the versions the same? If it's not,
try installing cvsup or cvsup-without-gui as a pkg (you can do that
from sysinstall without issues, I'm guessing) and cvsup to the latest
release of ports by editing /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile
as appropriate and then:
   $cvsup /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile
Now, I guess by suggesting that I'm still assuming it is a problem
with an out-of-date tree.  If you're sure it's not out of date, the
other possibility is connectivity, I guess? 

Can you give a specific example of the error (e.g., which port
you were trying to build), and quote the output from "make install"?
That might help a bit.
Kevin Kinsey
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Re: Installing ports

[Joe Kraft]

Florian Hengstberger wrote:
fetch time out
It seemed to me that the mirror servers are not uptodate or that
some filenames have changed in the meantime, because fetching data
from ftp-servers worked a few times. 
But in nearly all cases I had to copy the files manually in
/usr/ports/distfiles as "make install" finally suggested.
I had similar problems and it took me a while to figure it out.  The 
FTPs that worked for me were the ones I manually started, not the ones 
done by the ports makefiles.  I'm accessing through a firewall and it 
seems that when ftp is used there it doesn't automagically try to use 
passive mode.  I needed to add FTP_PASSIVE_MODE=YES to my environment 
variables.  I don't remember exactly where it went though.

Joe.
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buggy filtermail-0.7

[Harald Weis]

Has anyone got a working filtermail-0.7 port ?

Building and installing is fine, but the result is useless because of the
following bug:
algol{me} ~ > filtermail
filtermail: 0.7 querying [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tue Aug 24 15:45:24 2004.filtermail: 
Examining 1 message(s).
filtermail: Deny: Harald Weis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Tue 24 3H41, Tue, 24 Aug 2004 
15:43:04 +0200 ["Return-Path" exceeded maxlength].
algol{me} ~ >

All messages produce the same output in test mode.
And if test is set to "NO", all messages are consequently deleted :-(

The timestamp of the tarball fetched by 'portupgrade' is still
14 Feb 2004. I've been told that the bug was fixed on 24 Apr and that
I should 'cvs' the source. 

But I can't build the port from the cvs-tree of the mailfilter development 
branch because of some incompatibility of the autotools (it does not work 
with automake18, according to the mailfilter developer it builds alright 
with automake17 on Linux. Trying to install automake17 does fail - 
'make check' shows 11 failures, so I guess there is no need to run 
'make install'.

Thanks for any help,

Harald

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Re: Reinstalling, then upgrading (Was Re: Salvageable? (Was Re:make installworld error))

[Matthew Seaman]

On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 12:13:31PM -0700, Jay O'Brien wrote:
> Charles Ulrich wrote:
> 
> > The phrase "ports
> > build packages" is a neat and efficient way of rectifying the
> > misunderstandings that can occur when trying to give a proper 
> > explanation of FreeBSD package management.

> Thank you for concisely answering a burning question I didn't 
> know how to ask. I had gathered the concept that if I built a 
> "port" I was stuck with it, because it couldn't be removed as 
> easily as something installed as a package.

That phrase -- "ports build packages" is just so right on so many
levels.  Except for the literal description of what actually happens.

If I was feeling pedantic, I'd say "ports build and install software,
and also create a packaging list.  A package is simply a shortcut
method of using that packaging list to gather together all of those
files into an archive in order to copy them to a different machine."
But it really doesn't have the same ring to it.

Most people know that to build a package you simply change to the
correct ports directory and type:

# make package

Which is fine and dandy most of the time.  What deserves to be more
widely known is that you can create a package fron any already
installed port:

# pkg_create -b pkg-name

which saves a lot of effort trying to recompile things and is a really
handy way to back stuff up.

As it stands, you can't make a package without also installing the
corresponding port.  For many reasons it would be very handy to avoid
that: ie. to be able to install the port into a chroot'ed area and
assemble the package from there.  Avoids conflicts with already
installed ports or the need to de-install and re-install a port if you
want a different set of options for the package.  Also a lot of the
time it would make it feasible to build packages as a mortal user,
rather than requiring root access.

This has been discussed on several occasions in the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] list, and there are various patch sets floating
around.  As I understand it though, quite a lot of ports would need
remedial work if that functionality was to be introduced, which is
what has kept anything from being committed yet.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: Installing ports

[Lowell Gilbert]

Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > 
> > 
> > > Hi!
> > > 
> > > I'm using FreeBSD 5.2.1 and I'm in trouble with installing software
> > > using the ports collection. After typing "make install" everything 
> > > seems to be okay, but in most cases I get a message like this after
> > > a few minutes:
> > > 
> > > fetch time out
> > > 
> > > It seemed to me that the mirror servers are not uptodate or that
> > > some filenames have changed in the meantime, because fetching data
> > > from ftp-servers worked a few times. 
> > > But in nearly all cases I had to copy the files manually in
> > > /usr/ports/distfiles as "make install" finally suggested.
> > > 
> > > So I installed a new ports-collection with sysinstall over ftp but
> > > things haven't changed. I'm a little confused, because fetching data
> > > from FreeSD ftp-servers doesn't work too (remember that some fetches
> > > were successful!).
> > > 
> > > Please help me,
> > > Florian
> > > 
> > > --
> > > Florian Hengstberger
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > http://stud3.tuwien.ac.at/~e0025265
> > > --
> 
> 
> Are you behind a proxy?? I had a box behind squid once, 
> had to set fetch to look for the squid server

Or maybe behind a firewall that is messing up FTP?
[Maybe the fetches that succeeded were all via HTTP?]
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Re: Reinstalling, then upgrading (Was Re: Salvageable? (Was Re:make installworld error))

[Lowell Gilbert]

"Charles Ulrich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Just out of curiosity, is it incorrect to simply say that ports build
> packages?

No, packages are indeed built from ports.

>   That is, once a piece of software is installed with 'make install',
> is it treated the same as any package that was installed from the installation
> CD? 

Not only are they handled the same, but once installed, they are
completely indistinguishable.

> (If not, or if the relationship is really a whole lot more complex than
> that, then my rant below doesn't apply.)

You understand it perfectly, except for the fact that the noun
"package" is often used to refer to a tar file which can be fed to
pkg_add(1).  

> A lot of new users can't readily tell the difference between a port and
> package and frequently use the two terms interchangably. The handbook gives an
> overview of both ports and package but stops short of clearly spelling out
> this important distinction.

You mean where it says:

   For any given application, the FreeBSD package for that application is a
   single file which you must download. The package contains pre-compiled
   copies of all the commands for the application, as well as any
   configuration files or documentation. A downloaded package file can be
   manipulated with FreeBSD package management commands, such as pkg_add(1),
   pkg_delete(1), pkg_info(1), and so on. Installing a new application can be
   carried out with a single command.

   A FreeBSD port for an application is a collection of files designed to
   automate the process of compiling an application from source code.

That seems pretty clear about the distinction to me.

> But at the same time, it also implies that ports
> and packages are two completely separate ways of installing software when in
> reality they are actually two parts of the same system.

I'd say that they're actually two different ways of accessing the same
database; a slight difference of emphasis...

> The phrase "ports
> build packages" is a neat and efficient way of rectifying the
> misunderstandings that can occur when trying to give a proper explanation of
> FreeBSD package management.

A quick search on the FAQ and Handbook gives me the impression that
most generic references discuss installing from "ports and(/or)
packages" rather than one or the other.

If you think you see specific places to improve the documentation,
please write it up and submit it in a Problem Report.  FreeBSD is,
after all, a volunteer project...;2~
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Re: Reinstalling, then upgrading (Was Re: Salvageable? (Was Re:make installworld error))

[epilogue]

On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 14:47:03 -0400 (EDT)
"Charles Ulrich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Lowell Gilbert said:
> > In FreeBSD, a "port" is a third-party application ported to be built
> > from
> source on your system.  A "package" is a pre-compiled binary of that
> port. Once installed, they are both tracked (and removable) by the same
> database, usually referred to as the "package database".  See the FreeBSD
> Handbook section on "Installing Applications: Packages and Ports" for a
> full explanation.
> 
> Just out of curiosity, is it incorrect to simply say that ports build
> packages?

Yes.

> That is, once a piece of software is installed with 'make install',
> is it treated the same as any package that was installed from the
> installation CD? (If not, or if the relationship is really a whole lot
> more complex than that, then my rant below doesn't apply.)
> 
> A lot of new users can't readily tell the difference between a port and
> package and frequently use the two terms interchangably.

mostly the users who:

a) don't bother to read the handbook
b) read the handbook too quickly (ie. skim it)
c) read the handbook in a language which isn't their own
d) other...  (feel free to add your own variations ;)

> The handbook gives an overview of both ports and package but stops
> short of clearly spelling out this important distinction.

Taken directly from our beloved handbook:

"4.2 Overview of Software Installation
 
If you have used a UNIX® system before you will know that the typical
procedure for installing third party software goes something like this:
   
1. Download the software, which might be distributed in source code format,
or as a binary.

2. Unpack the software from its distribution format(typically a tarball
compressed with compress(1), gzip(1), or bzip2(1)).

3. Locate the documentation (perhaps an INSTALL or README file, or some
files in a doc/ subdirectory) and read up on how to install the software.

4. If the software was distributed in source format, compile it. This may
involve editing a Makefile, or running a configure script, and other work. 

5. Test and install the software.

And that is only if everything goes well. If you are installing a software
package that was not deliberately ported to FreeBSD you may even
have to go in and edit the code to make it work properly.

Should you want to, you can continue to install software the
``traditional'' way with FreeBSD. However, FreeBSD provides two
technologies which can save you a lot of effort: packages and ports. At the
time of writing, over 10,500 third party applications have been made
available in this way.

For any given application, the FreeBSD >>> package <<< for that
application is a >>> single file <<< which you must download. The package
contains >>> pre-compiled <<< copies of all the commands for the
application, as well as any configuration files or documentation. A
downloaded package file can be manipulated with FreeBSD package management
commands, such as pkg_add(1), pkg_delete(1), pkg_info(1), and so on.
Installing a new application can be carried out with a single command.

FreeBSD >>> port <<< for an application is a >>> collection of files <<<
designed to >>> automate the process of compiling <<< an application
>>> from source code <<<.

Remember that there are a number of steps you would normally carry out if
you compiled a program yourself (downloading, unpacking, patching,
compiling, installing). The files that make up a port contain all the
necessary information to allow the system to do this for you."

hope that this helps to clear up any confusion you might have had.


cheers,
epi


> But at the same time, it also implies that ports and packages are two
> completely separate ways of installing software when in reality they are
> actually two parts of the same system. The phrase "ports build packages"
> is a neat and efficient way of rectifying the misunderstandings that can
> occur when trying to give a proper explanation of FreeBSD package
> management.
> 
> -- 
> Charles Ulrich
> System Administrator


the fbsd handbook is one of the very best in *nixland.  please pay it the
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Re: Installing ports

[Mark]

> 
> 
> > Hi!
> > 
> > I'm using FreeBSD 5.2.1 and I'm in trouble with installing software
> > using the ports collection. After typing "make install" everything 
> > seems to be okay, but in most cases I get a message like this after
> > a few minutes:
> > 
> > fetch time out
> > 
> > It seemed to me that the mirror servers are not uptodate or that
> > some filenames have changed in the meantime, because fetching data
> > from ftp-servers worked a few times. 
> > But in nearly all cases I had to copy the files manually in
> > /usr/ports/distfiles as "make install" finally suggested.
> > 
> > So I installed a new ports-collection with sysinstall over ftp but
> > things haven't changed. I'm a little confused, because fetching data
> > from FreeSD ftp-servers doesn't work too (remember that some fetches
> > were successful!).
> > 
> > Please help me,
> > Florian
> > 
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Are you behind a proxy?? I had a box behind squid once, 
had to set fetch to look for the squid server


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Re: Reinstalling, then upgrading (Was Re: Salvageable? (Was Re:make installworld error))

[Jay O'Brien]

Charles Ulrich wrote:

> The phrase "ports
> build packages" is a neat and efficient way of rectifying the
> misunderstandings that can occur when trying to give a proper 
> explanation of FreeBSD package management.
> 

Charles,

Thank you for concisely answering a burning question I didn't 
know how to ask. I had gathered the concept that if I built a 
"port" I was stuck with it, because it couldn't be removed as 
easily as something installed as a package.

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Re: Installing ports

[epilogue]

On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 20:11:49 +0200
"Florian Hengstberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi!
> 
> I'm using FreeBSD 5.2.1 and I'm in trouble with installing software
> using the ports collection. After typing "make install" everything 
> seems to be okay, but in most cases I get a message like this after
> a few minutes:
> 
> fetch time out

hello florian,

could you please help us to help you, by providing more details?  for
example, it would be really useful to know which ports you're having the
problem with.  it could indeed be that the mirrors for a given port may
require updating (but we're not going to look at all +11k ports just
because you dropped us a line  ;)

i get the feeling that you are experiencing the problem with many
different ports.  as such, mirror lists are an unlikely culprit (or we
would be seeing a lot of such complaints on the mailing lists). 

> It seemed to me that the mirror servers are not uptodate or that
> some filenames have changed in the meantime, because fetching data
> from ftp-servers worked a few times. 
> But in nearly all cases I had to copy the files manually in
> /usr/ports/distfiles as "make install" finally suggested.
> 
> So I installed a new ports-collection with sysinstall over ftp but
> things haven't changed. I'm a little confused, because fetching data
> from FreeSD ftp-servers doesn't work too (remember that some fetches
> were successful!).

i have never installed a new ports collection this way, so i cannot speak
about the reliability of this method.

cvsup, on the other hand, is a method for which i (and the handbook) can
vouch.  if you haven't already, check out the handbook entry on cvsup
(section III-A-4).  it should probably clear up your issue (unless, of
course, you're having a networking problem).

if you're in a pinch, you can probably also download a copy of the tree
from ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/ports/ports.tar.gz and extract
it over your existing /usr/ports

i don't know how often that tarball is updated, but the latest timestamp on
it is 2004.08.24 03:38:00, so it should work too.

anyway.  hope this helps.


cheers,
epi

 
> Please help me,
> Florian
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Re: Installing ports

[Joel Dahl]

Are your local ports-tree up-to-date?


> Hi!
> 
> I'm using FreeBSD 5.2.1 and I'm in trouble with installing software
> using the ports collection. After typing "make install" everything 
> seems to be okay, but in most cases I get a message like this after
> a few minutes:
> 
> fetch time out
> 
> It seemed to me that the mirror servers are not uptodate or that
> some filenames have changed in the meantime, because fetching data
> from ftp-servers worked a few times. 
> But in nearly all cases I had to copy the files manually in
> /usr/ports/distfiles as "make install" finally suggested.
> 
> So I installed a new ports-collection with sysinstall over ftp but
> things haven't changed. I'm a little confused, because fetching data
> from FreeSD ftp-servers doesn't work too (remember that some fetches
> were successful!).
> 
> Please help me,
> Florian
> 
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Re: Hard Mail Question

[Charles Ulrich]

Odhiambo Washington said:
> * Sean Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20040824 02:12]: wrote:
>> Without using "leave mail on server" or "leave mail on server for x days"
>> is it possible after I have downloaded my email to my computer using pop3
>> to put it back so I can access it from a different computer.  Possibly ftp
>> it back to the server and copy it to my mail directory to redownload it? or
>> mabey install imap and place it in my inbox folder on my local drive...
>> would that throw it back on the server?
>>
>> FreeBSD 4.10 and Sendmail
>
> Hi Sean,
>
> The easy answer is NO.

The other easy answer is YES.

Just open up your mail client and send the messages back to yourself. It's
always worked for me.

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Re: Reinstalling, then upgrading (Was Re: Salvageable? (Was Re:make installworld error))

[Charles Ulrich]

Lowell Gilbert said:
> In FreeBSD, a "port" is a third-party application ported to be built from
source on your system.  A "package" is a pre-compiled binary of that port. 
Once installed, they are both tracked (and removable) by the same database,
usually referred to as the "package database".  See the FreeBSD Handbook
section on "Installing Applications: Packages and Ports" for a full
explanation.

Just out of curiosity, is it incorrect to simply say that ports build
packages? That is, once a piece of software is installed with 'make install',
is it treated the same as any package that was installed from the installation
CD? (If not, or if the relationship is really a whole lot more complex than
that, then my rant below doesn't apply.)

A lot of new users can't readily tell the difference between a port and
package and frequently use the two terms interchangably. The handbook gives an
overview of both ports and package but stops short of clearly spelling out
this important distinction. But at the same time, it also implies that ports
and packages are two completely separate ways of installing software when in
reality they are actually two parts of the same system. The phrase "ports
build packages" is a neat and efficient way of rectifying the
misunderstandings that can occur when trying to give a proper explanation of
FreeBSD package management.

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Installing ports

[Florian Hengstberger]

Hi!

I'm using FreeBSD 5.2.1 and I'm in trouble with installing software
using the ports collection. After typing "make install" everything 
seems to be okay, but in most cases I get a message like this after
a few minutes:

fetch time out

It seemed to me that the mirror servers are not uptodate or that
some filenames have changed in the meantime, because fetching data
from ftp-servers worked a few times. 
But in nearly all cases I had to copy the files manually in
/usr/ports/distfiles as "make install" finally suggested.

So I installed a new ports-collection with sysinstall over ftp but
things haven't changed. I'm a little confused, because fetching data
from FreeSD ftp-servers doesn't work too (remember that some fetches
were successful!).

Please help me,
Florian

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Re: SCSI disk to disk dump restore

[Dan Rue]

On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 11:12:10AM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
> * Dan Rue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20040824 00:01]: wrote:
> > Hey Gang, 
> > 
> > I had an older scsi disk going bad, so I picked up a new disk to replace
> > it.  I did a dump | restore to move the data to the new disk, but it
> > went far slower than expected.  I'm wondering if there's an issue with
> > the different disk speeds.  
> > 
> > Old disk from dmesg:
> > da0:  Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device
> > da0: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 31, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled
> > da0: 17522MB (35885168 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 2233C)
> > 
> > New disk, as reported by dmesg (it's a seagate U320):
> > da2:  Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device
> > da2: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled
> > da2: 35003MB (71687372 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 4462C)
> > 
> > The dump was 13G, and took about 2 hours.  I calculated that out to be
> > about 1.8MB/s.  Of course, that's total time I'm sure there's some dump
> > overhead (though, i didn't use -L) - but still, 2 hours for 13G?!
> 
> Well, depends! I used a dump|restore (without -L) recently and it took
> me like 5 hours to complete the dump for 28GB.
> 
> 
> > I'm thinking there was a jumper or parameter I should have set due to
> > the different disk types.  Note that I removed da0, but there's still
> > another quantum in the machine on the scsi chain.
> 
> I also had another disk on the SCSI chain.
> 
> How much time did you expect to achieve as optimum? Based on what
> factors?

Ok, well that's good enough for me.  I don't have a lot of experience
with SCSI or dump - so I thought maybe I was hitting some caveat,
especially with the mixed drive types.

Thanks for the info it sounds like my numbers were about right after
all.

drue
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ALTQ@5.2.1-RELEASE-p9 ?

[Hugo Silva]

Hey,

I wanted to know if the patches available for ALTQ on FreeBSD 5.x work on
5.2.1.

I can't test this myself because the only 5.2.1 server I have is a
production server and I'd like to be 100% sure it will work first.

I don't know if the patches will apply cleanly, the latest I found were
for 5.2-CURRENT.

Does the patch for 5.2 works on 5.2.1-release-p9 ?

Regards,

Hugo

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Omnilife Una Nueva Forma de Vida

[Ingresos Extras y Mejora tu Salud]

DISTRIBUIDOR INDEPENDIENTE OMNILIFE TE INVITA A MEJORAR TU SALUD=20
CONSUMIENDO LA GAMA DE PRODUCTOS DE SUPLEMENTOS ALIMENTICIOS
COSMETICOS Y TINTES TODOS SON PRODUCTOS NATURALES.

TAMBIEN PUEDES FORMAR PARTE DE LA GRAN FAMILIA OMNILIFE COMO=20
DISTRIBUIDOR INDEPENDIENTE YA ESTAMOS EN 14 PAISES. LO PUEDE=20
HACER GENTE DE MEXICO, EUA, COLOMBIA, VENEZUELA, PERU, ARGENTINA
COSTA RICA, GUATEMALA, EL SALVADOR, BOLIVIA, ESPAnA, ECUADOR=20
PANAMA Y CANADA.

Y PUEDES TENER INGRESOS EXTRAS INICIA TU PROPIO NEGOCIO

SOLO LLAMA O ESCRIBENOS PARA PODER COMPARTIR NUESTRA TESTIMONIO=20

SI NECESITA MAYOR INFORMACION ESCRIBANOS A=20
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Skiing Pavilion at Adventures in Travel Expo

[cwayne]

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Re: High Availability Solution

[Gustavo A. Baratto]

http://redundancy.redundancy.org/fbsd_lb.html

- Original Message - 
From: "Joseph Begumisa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 5:41 AM
Subject: High Availability Solution


>
> Does anyone know of a high availability solution that works on freebsd?  I
> have two freebsd servers and would like to have them operate in a way that
> if one fails, the second kicks in.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Joseph.
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Re: uname -v shows no difference after buildkernel and installkernel etc

[Nathan Kinkade]

On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 08:20:51PM +1000, August Simonelli wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I recently did the following:
> 
> installed FreeBSD 5.2.1 from the iso
> cvsup'd the source (using tag=RELENG_5_2)
> followed section 19 of the handbook
> followed section 8 for the kernel rebuild and did a custom kernel
> (placing in /root/kernels and linking it, as per section 8.3)
> everything went well
> did a mergmaster and didn't accept any changes (it was a fresh system)
> rebooted and logged in
> did uname -v and got the same output as before all the above (Feb
> build date (5.2.1, right?), reference to GENERIC kernel not my custom
> kernel - my search of the list archives tells me it should show the
> local machine and a recent date in this output)
> 
> Do I need to update somewhere to tell the system to boot the new
> kernel? If so, I totally missed that in the handbook (whoops).
> 
> This also leads me to ask how one best confirms the system has "changed?"
> 
> Thanks in advance for any help,
> 
> August

What does your symlink look like?  So you put the newly built kernel in
/root/kernels, then did something like?:

# ln -s /root/kernels/mykernel /boot/kernel/kernel

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IPC:ShareLite will not compile om 4.10

[Mark]

Has anyone solved this issue yet?

http://groups.google.nl/groups?q=Bad+realloc()+ignored+at+blib/lib/IPC/ShareLite.pm&hl=nl&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=200406142310.i5ENAsBl028101%40manage.padtechnologies.com&rnum=2

I have two identical 5.8.5 Perls, one compiled with ithreads, the other not.
Funnily enough, IPC:Sharelite compiles fine on the threaded Perl; the
unthread one core dumps in the test (and usage), as mentioned in the above
article. I really need IPC:Sharelite to work on both versions.

BTW, when I was on Freebsd 4.7. way back when, the same thing occured:
worked on thread-enabled Perl, but not on regular one. Very weird.

- Mark

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Re: High Availability Solution

[Martin Hudec]

On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 03:41:41PM +0300 or thereabouts, Joseph Begumisa wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know of a high availability solution that works on freebsd?  I 
> have two freebsd servers and would like to have them operate in a way that 
> if one fails, the second kicks in.

And what about this one named SG Cluster?

http://www.freebsd.org.hk/html/sgcluster/

I am going to look into it in next few days.


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Re: High Availability Solution

[Matthew Seaman]

On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 03:41:41PM +0300, Joseph Begumisa wrote:
 
> Does anyone know of a high availability solution that works on freebsd?  I 
> have two freebsd servers and would like to have them operate in a way that 
> if one fails, the second kicks in.

How you do this depends very much on the nature of the services those
machines are providing.  If it's a stateless service -- like serving
out static content from a web server, then you can use a pretty
rudimentary web switch that just round-robins between the two -- see
the Apache docs on mod_rewrite and mod_proxy for some ideas.

If you're building a firewall, then the PF firewall code recently
imported from OpenBSD is something you should find interesting: one of
it's excellent features is the CARP 'Common Address Redundancy
Protocol' which has been ported:

http://pf4freebsd.love2party.net/carp.html

but I'm not sure if it's going to be in the up-and-coming 5.3-RELEASE.

Beyond that, there are any number of tricks using net/freevrrp -- the
trick with these however is to ensure that any necessary data
containing the state of a session is distributed over all of the
servers, or else failover won't work quite so well.  Most databases
have replication features nowadays (MySQL has this available by
default in the standard install, for Postgresql, look at the
databases/slony1 port.)

Other sorts of service -- well, to get a more precise answer you'll
just have to describe what you want to do in a less vague way.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: About Resellers

[Matthew Seaman]

On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 01:33:33PM +0300, Demetris Terlikas wrote:

> Do you have any reseller in cyprus?Because if you have got anyone in
> my country I would like to become one.

Reseller probably isn't quite the right word, as the FreeBSD project
isn't a commercial organisation.  It's basically a bunch of people
who've got together to develop an operating system.

So, there's no licensing or any other issues which prevent you from
selling FreeBSD installation CD-Rom sets, much like DaemonNews
(BSDMall) and FreeBSDMall do in the USA:

http://www.bsdmall.com/
http://www.freebsdmall.com/cgi-bin/fm

On the other hand, there's no formal support from the FreeBSD project
either.  Of course, people are quite often happy to volunteer and help
out where this is seen as aiding the project as a whole, but it's
going to be up to you to put together your product and do all of the
marketing etc.  If you're selling boxed copies of the installer disks,
it's usual to use the disc1 and disc2 .iso images from one of the
FreeBSD FTP sites, and add a DVD or a couple more CD Roms filled with
packages to the bundle.

It's usual, but not obligatory, to make some sort of contribution back
towards the running costs of the project if you sell CD Roms, books,
stickers, tee-shirts etc. derived from FreeBSD stuff.  Note that the
BSD daemon logo is copyright Marshall Kirk McKusic and you will need
explicit permission from him if you intend to use that image.  See:

http://www.mckusick.com/beastie/index.html

Cheers,

Matthew

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BCM4401-B0 card error on FreeBSD 5.2.1

[Yoshinobu Inoue]

I also had same problem but succeeded in making BCM4401-B0 work,
thanks to following information with this dirty quick patch.

--- src/sys/dev/bfe/if_bfereg.h.origWed Sep 10 03:17:22 2003
+++ src/sys/dev/bfe/if_bfereg.h Tue Aug 24 22:13:10 2004
@@ -393,7 +393,11 @@
 #define BFE_REG_PCI 0x18002000
 
 #define BCOM_VENDORID   0x14E4
+#if 0
 #define BCOM_DEVICEID_BCM4401   0x4401
+#else
+#define BCOM_DEVICEID_BCM4401   0x170c
+#endif
 
 #define PCI_SETBIT(dev, reg, x, s)  \
 pci_write_config(dev, reg, (pci_read_config(dev, reg, s) | (x)), s)


>I I just recompiled a 4.10 kernel with bfe support.
>I grab source code from  http://people.freebsd.org/~dmlb/bfe-4.8.tar.gz
>
>At boot time, I get:
>pci1:  (vendor=0x14e4, dev=0x170c) at 14.0 irq 11
>
>When I try to insert the driver manually:
>module_register: module pci/bfe already exists!
>linker_file_sysinit "if_bfe.ko" failed to register! 17
>
>I think I'm gone go back to Linux...
>
>cheers,
>
>
>Guillaume
>
>
>Mark wrote:
>> You may have to build a kernel with the 
>> "device  bge" # gig cards
>> "device  bfe" # 10- 100 cards
>> entries to build the moduals, I would have thought they 
>> were with the base system. But I had to build a kernel
>> for the bfe modual to work.
>> 
>> Side note: The bfe entry is not in the GENERIC kernel 
>> on 4.10 but will build and work. The bge modual would not 
>> find my broadcom 4401.
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Jul 26, 2004 at 05:00:39PM +0200, Guillaume Goutaudier wrote:
>> 
>>>bge gives me exactly the same error message.
>>>And still nothing like "bge0: ..." in dmesg output.
>>>
>>>
>>>Try bge. 
>>>
>>>On Mon, Jul 26, 2004 at 03:11:42PM +0200, Guillaume Goutaudier wrote:
>>>
/ Hi all,
>>>
>>>/>/ 
>>>/>/ I'm trying to move from Linux to FreeBSD on my compaq nx5000 laptop.
>>>/>/ The FreeBSD version I installed is 5.2.1.
>>>/>/ 
>>>/>/ I have a problem with the integrated broadcom BCM4401-B0 NIC.
>>>/>/ 
>>>/>/ This is not a BCM4401 but a BCM4401-B0 card (PCI ID = 0x170c), and
>>>/>/ the bfe driver does not seem to work:
>>>/>/ 
>>>/>/ In the dmesg output, I don't have a single line with "bfe0: ...".
>>>/>/ Instead, all I have is:
>>>/>/ 
>>>/>/ pci1:  at device 14.0 (no driver attached)
>>>/>/ 
>>>/>/ When I try to install the bfe module manually, I get:
>>>/>/ 
>>>/>/ # kldload miibus.ko
>>>/>/ interface miibus.1 already present in the KLD 'kernel'!
>>>/>/ kldload: can't load miibus.ko: file exists
>>>/>/ # kldload if_bfe.ko
>>>/>/ module_register: module pci/bfe already exists!
>>>/>/ Module pci/bfe failed to register: 17
>>>/>/ module_register: module bfe/miibus already exists!
>>>/>/ Module bfe/miibus failed to register: 17
>>>/>/ 
>>>/>/ I'm not familiar at all with *BSD drivers stuff so any help will be
>>>/>/ REALLY appreciated ...
>>>/>/ 
>>>/>/ cheers,
>>>/>/ 
>>>/>/ 
>>>/>/ Guillaume
>>>/>/ /
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Re: Embedded freebsd How to?

[Gerard Samuel]

Andrew L. Gould wrote:
On Monday 23 August 2004 11:21 pm, Gerard Samuel wrote:
Andrew L. Gould wrote:
On Monday 23 August 2004 07:41 pm, Gerard Samuel wrote:
Well I've been using FBSD since 3.4, and I would like to
try my hand at trying to put together an embedded FBSD system.
I browsed the -small mailing list, but there doesnt seem to be
any relevant up to date data there (I may be mistaken).
I did a bit of googling, but Im not finding what Im looking
for.
I kept running into "Embedded FreeBSD Cookbook".  Anyone thoughts
on this book.
But other than that, are there any online how to tutorial,
that would show an almost beginner on how to get started.
Thanks for any input you may provide...
Go to http://soekris.com/ and click on Support.  You'll find some
tutorials on installing FreeBSD on their embedded boards.  One of
the tutorials is "miniBSD - reducing FreeBSD".
Also, Michael Lucas has an article on installing OpenBSD on one of
their boards:
http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2004/03/11/Big_Scary_Daemons.html
Best of luck,
Seems my options are limited, but thanks for the links...

I don't think you're options are limited.  These are just examples that 
have come to the attention of someone who does NOT do embedded stuff.


Understood.  What I meant by "limited" was that it seems (with respect 
to hardware), it seems like the hardware side of things isn't as 
widespread as I thought it would have been (compared to *normal* 
hardware, aka AT/ATX etc).
I was previously aware of soekris through mOrOwall (which gave me the 
idea of putting one together myself).
But then again, I've only begun searching yesterday, so what do I know :)

Thanks once again...
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Re: High Availability Solution

[Christian Laursen]

Joseph Begumisa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Does anyone know of a high availability solution that works on
> freebsd?  I have two freebsd servers and would like to have them
> operate in a way that if one fails, the second kicks in.

Take a look at net/freevrrpd.

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Re: SCSI disk to disk dump restore

[Marc Wiz]

On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 11:12:10AM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
> * Dan Rue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20040824 00:01]: wrote:
> > Hey Gang, 
> > 
> > I had an older scsi disk going bad, so I picked up a new disk to replace
> > it.  I did a dump | restore to move the data to the new disk, but it
> > went far slower than expected.  I'm wondering if there's an issue with
> > the different disk speeds.  

Try experimenting the b option (number of buffers).  You will
find it does make a difference.

Marc
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High Availability Solution

[Joseph Begumisa]

Does anyone know of a high availability solution that works on freebsd?  I 
have two freebsd servers and would like to have them operate in a way that 
if one fails, the second kicks in.

Thanks.
Joseph.
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About Resellers

[Demetris Terlikas]

Do you have any reseller in cyprus?Because if you have got anyone in my country I 
would like to become one.

Thank you in advance,

Demetris Terlikas
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Re: apsfilter and Epson Stylus C63 on Current

[edwinculp]

- Mensaje original -
De: Anish Mistry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Fecha: Lunes, Agosto 23, 2004 11:59 pm
Asunto: Re: apsfilter and Epson Stylus C63 on Current

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> Hash: SHA1
> 
> Just to check, you have removed the base install's lp* utilities 
> right?

No, I must have read over, under, around and/or through that in the cups howto's I 
been using.

Let me be sure that I am understanding.  I should remove lpd, lpq, lpc, lpr, lprm and 
family to use cups?

That could definitely be the problem because I have't done it.

Thanks, I'll give it a try in a few.

ed

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Re: portscan looks like....

[Toni Schmidbauer]

On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 12:12:10AM -0400, Bob Ababurko wrote:
> PORT STATE SERVICE
> 22/tcp   open  ssh
> 25/tcp   open  smtp
> 80/tcp   open  http
> 111/tcp  open  rpcbind
> 1023/tcp open  netvenuechat

with sockstat(1) its possible to list which daemon is listing on
which port. the column PID shows the corresponding process id.
a simple kill  should be enough to stop that daemon. 

but indeed 1023 looks interesting. if you really don't know which
kind of daemon is listing on that port, i would try telneting to it.
hopefully it's not some kind of root backdoor :-)

hth,
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Re: Hard Mail Question

[Geert Hendrickx]

On Mon, Aug 23, 2004 at 04:11:49PM -0700, Sean Murphy wrote:
> Without using "leave mail on server" or "leave mail on server for x days" 
> is it possible after I have downloaded my email to my computer using pop3 
> to put it back so I can access it from a different computer.  Possibly ftp 
> it back to the server and copy it to my mail directory to redownload it? or 
> mabey install imap and place it in my inbox folder on my local drive... 
> would that throw it back on the server?
> 
> FreeBSD 4.10 and Sendmail

You could use UIDL on your pop3-client (e.g. fetchmail).  It keeps a
database of which mails have been downloaded already (using server-side
checksums), and that way you could leave all your mail on one central
server, downloading it on different clients (and downloading every mail
only once per client).  

Your .fetchmailrc would look something like this: 

poll  with protocol POP3 options uidl
user  there with password 
is  here options keep

GH
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Re: Hard Mail Question

[Ruben de Groot]

On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 11:03:34AM +0300, Odhiambo Washington typed:
> * Sean Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20040824 02:12]: wrote:
> > Without using "leave mail on server" or "leave mail on server for x days" 
> > is it possible after I have downloaded my email to my computer using pop3 
> > to put it back so I can access it from a different computer.  Possibly ftp 
> > it back to the server and copy it to my mail directory to redownload it? or 
> > mabey install imap and place it in my inbox folder on my local drive... 
> > would that throw it back on the server?
> > 
> > FreeBSD 4.10 and Sendmail
> 
> Hi Sean,
> 
> The easy answer is NO.
> The complicated answer is "everything is possible under the sky".
> Maybe yes, if you ask this question on [EMAIL PROTECTED] ;)
>
> You will ask them to direct you to a tool that takes a .dbx file, splits
> it into individual e-mails, in a format that is not proprietary to
> Microshit and then you can FTP those back to the server, placing them
> either in ~smurphy/Maildir/new/ or in /var/mail/smurphy - I guess you
> already see how much time you will waste using Microshit products!

Actually, since Sean seems to be using Eudora 
(X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.1.1), whose files are in the 
standard Unix mailbox format, simply uploading the mailbox file and 
appending it to /var/mail/user on the server *should* do the trick.

Ruben

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Re: The printf function

[Warren Block]

On Tue, 24 Aug 2004, Gerald S. Stoller wrote:
I executed the following  printf  (in a  Korn shell  command-line)
printf  't %2$s .\n'  3  55
and got the following response
printf: illegal format character $
The following is an excerpt from the  man-3  page for  printf .
'man 3 printf' shows the man page for the C library function printf. 
'man 1 printf' shows the man page for the printf *program*, which does 
not appear to support the $ format string.

-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
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[OT] fishing for addresses

[Ed Budd]

Klaus, Chris (ISSAtlanta) wrote:
This is an automated message.
I apologize for the inconvenience, but I need your help in fighting
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Messages from addresses that have not put into my whitelist 
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Re: SCP

[Dick Davies]

* Spidey Knepscheld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [0828 11:28]:
> Hi Guys
>  
>  
> I have to FreeBSD boxes next to each other and would like to copy a
> directory from the mail server to the firewall.I have root access to
> both the PC's.The directory on the mail server is /home/www/trafd and I
> would like to copy it to the fw to /usr/ports/net/ . Here is the command
> I tried :
>  
> scp /home/www/trafd  
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]: /usr/trafd

I assume the mailto link is sowe crap inserted by your mailer?
Also there shouldn't be a space between the colon and the /usr/trafd, and
you'd need a -r flag to recursively do it.

Also , tell us what error you got - I'd assume you aren't allowed to ssh as root into
196.15.213.253 

>  
> Please if someone can help

try rsync, that's much faster than scp:

rsync -vaz -e ssh /home/www/trafd [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/trafd
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Re: SCP

[August Simonelli]

On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 12:28:23 +0200, Spidey Knepscheld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Guys
> 
> I have to FreeBSD boxes next to each other and would like to copy a
> directory from the mail server to the firewall.I have root access to
> both the PC's.The directory on the mail server is /home/www/trafd and I
> would like to copy it to the fw to /usr/ports/net/ . Here is the command
> I tried :
> 
> scp /home/www/trafd  
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]: /usr/trafd

I think it's more like this: scp [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/path/to/remote/dir/*
/path/to/local/dir/

i'm still pretty new at this but if i'm not mistaken root can't login
remotely by default, so unless you've allowed that it'll fail.

hope this helps ...

august

> 
> Please if someone can help
> 
> Spidey
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SCP

[Spidey Knepscheld]

Hi Guys
 
 
I have to FreeBSD boxes next to each other and would like to copy a
directory from the mail server to the firewall.I have root access to
both the PC's.The directory on the mail server is /home/www/trafd and I
would like to copy it to the fw to /usr/ports/net/ . Here is the command
I tried :
 
scp /home/www/trafd  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: /usr/trafd
 
Please if someone can help
 
 
Spidey
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uname -v shows no difference after buildkernel and installkernel etc

[August Simonelli]

Hi all,

I recently did the following:

installed FreeBSD 5.2.1 from the iso
cvsup'd the source (using tag=RELENG_5_2)
followed section 19 of the handbook
followed section 8 for the kernel rebuild and did a custom kernel
(placing in /root/kernels and linking it, as per section 8.3)
everything went well
did a mergmaster and didn't accept any changes (it was a fresh system)
rebooted and logged in
did uname -v and got the same output as before all the above (Feb
build date (5.2.1, right?), reference to GENERIC kernel not my custom
kernel - my search of the list archives tells me it should show the
local machine and a recent date in this output)

Do I need to update somewhere to tell the system to boot the new
kernel? If so, I totally missed that in the handbook (whoops).

This also leads me to ask how one best confirms the system has "changed?"

Thanks in advance for any help,

August
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Re: portscan looks like....

[Matthew Seaman]

On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 08:37:30AM +0200, Volker Kindermann wrote:
> Hi Bob,
> 
> 
> > PORT STATE SERVICE
> > 22/tcp   open  ssh
> > 25/tcp   open  smtp
> > 80/tcp   open  http
> > 111/tcp  open  rpcbind
> > 1023/tcp open  netvenuechat
[...]
> >  Then there is the case of the port 1023.  I have no idea how to
> >  turn 
> > this off or how it got turned on.  Could the rpcbind allowed someone
> > into my computer to hack it up?  I am pretty scared at this point. 
> 
> First try to disable rpcbind and look afterwards, if port 1023 is still
> open. If it ist, install lsof from ports. This tool will tell you which
> application is listening on this port.

sockstat(1) will tell you that just as well, and it's a standard part
of the system.

Chances are port 1023 is open because of portmap(8) (a.k.a rpcbind(8)
in 5.x).  To see what ports portmap is managing, use the rpcinfo(8)
command:

# rpcinfo -p

As for telling if your system has been compromised, it depends on the
level of sophistication of whoever attacks you.  Chances are that if
you're just an ordinary home user without any particular secrets or
other motives for anyone to break in, you'll not come to the attention of
anyone good enough to cover their tracks thoroughly.  In fact, about
the only sort of intrusion attempt you're likely to see would be
automated or semi-automated attacks /intended for Linux or Windows
servers/ by Skript Kiddiez.  Needless to say, these tend not to work.

The most effective things you can do to prevent yourself being
compromised are:

- keep your system and ports up to date

- be vigilant: look at what the daily security e-mail is telling
  you, subscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and/or
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that you get notified of any security
  advisories.  Scan through system logs for anomalous entries
  occasionally.  Check for strange processes (use ps(1)) or for
  logins from odd systems or at odd times (use last(1)).

- Install security/portaudit so that you get notifications of any
  vulnerabilities in your installed ports

- Think about what you are doing as you use the system.  Get into
  good security habits: try and ensure that processes/users have
  only the minimum necessary permissions in order to function.
  Always use ssh(1) or similarly encrypted channels for remote
  access to systems.  Never log in directly as root -- use su(1)
  or better, sudo(1) instead.  Always use secure (ie. unguessable)
  passwords -- install and use security/apg if you find it hard to
  think up good ones.

There's a shedload of useful monitoring software you can install to
help you detect if you have been attacked or compromised, but for most
home users, it's really overkill.  Particularly noteworthy are
security/snort -- which will examine all of the network traffic
reaching your system and detect which of it is unfriendly -- and one
of the security/tripwire ports, which will build a cryptographically
secured database of checksums of all of the important files on your
system which you can use to immediately detect any changes.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: Hard Mail Question

[Joshua Tinnin]

On Monday 23 August 2004 04:11 pm, Sean Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Without using "leave mail on server" or "leave mail on server for x days"
> is it possible after I have downloaded my email to my computer using pop3
> to put it back so I can access it from a different computer.  Possibly ftp
> it back to the server and copy it to my mail directory to redownload it? or
> mabey install imap and place it in my inbox folder on my local drive...
> would that throw it back on the server?

No - the previous answer to your query was correct - but imap is going in the 
right direction. You could set up an imap server on your own FreeBSD machine 
and access your email and all your folders from anywhere with it, even from 
multiple accounts (which can be pop3 or imap, or whatever), feeding into your 
imap server. Of course, you have to set up your machine as a real mail server 
to do this, which might not be what you want to do.

- jt
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Re: SCSI disk to disk dump restore

[Odhiambo Washington]

* Dan Rue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20040824 00:01]: wrote:
> Hey Gang, 
> 
> I had an older scsi disk going bad, so I picked up a new disk to replace
> it.  I did a dump | restore to move the data to the new disk, but it
> went far slower than expected.  I'm wondering if there's an issue with
> the different disk speeds.  
> 
> Old disk from dmesg:
> da0:  Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device
> da0: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 31, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled
> da0: 17522MB (35885168 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 2233C)
> 
> New disk, as reported by dmesg (it's a seagate U320):
> da2:  Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device
> da2: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled
> da2: 35003MB (71687372 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 4462C)
> 
> The dump was 13G, and took about 2 hours.  I calculated that out to be
> about 1.8MB/s.  Of course, that's total time I'm sure there's some dump
> overhead (though, i didn't use -L) - but still, 2 hours for 13G?!

Well, depends! I used a dump|restore (without -L) recently and it took
me like 5 hours to complete the dump for 28GB.


> I'm thinking there was a jumper or parameter I should have set due to
> the different disk types.  Note that I removed da0, but there's still
> another quantum in the machine on the scsi chain.

I also had another disk on the SCSI chain.

How much time did you expect to achieve as optimum? Based on what
factors?


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Re: missing /dev/fd0 after upgrading to FBSD-6.0-CURRENT

[Odhiambo Washington]

* [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20040824 00:12]: wrote:
> Hi all, 
> 
> this is my problem ! 
> 
> After cvsupping from FBSD-5.2 to FBSD-6.0-CURRENT I miss fd0 in /dev. Consequently
> accssing floppy is not possible anymore. It must have something to do with
> devfs. 
> I tried 'mknod /dev/fd0 ...' but could not find out the correct major/minor
> numbers for the floppy driver.
> 
> Any suggestion helping solve the problem is highly appreciated (sure, the
> real problem is my stupidity, but this is not solvable anymore)


Just two questions:

1. Why must you run -CURRENT?
2. Did you "make build|install kernel|world" after the cvsup?
   If everything was successful, then you simply have to shift your base
   from freebsd-question to freebsd-current mailing list!

A better advise for you: There is 5.3-BETA1 out there on the ftp
servers. Wipe clean your drive, get this BETA and install it. You can
then ask questions related to it on this list.



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Re: custom boot disk

[Odhiambo Washington]

* Incoming Mail List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20040824 00:25]: wrote:
> 
> Can anyone provide a pointer to a good how-to on creating a customized
> bootable disk?  Specifically, I'm trying to understand:
> 
> 1) How do you create a 64mb (for example) memory file system as part
>of the boot procedure?
> 
> 2) How do you instruct init to mount the newly created memory file
>system and then populate via an image containing system files?
> 
> 3) How do you instruct init to start executing a specific shell or
>"c" program once the memory file system is populated?

There is a project called FreeSBIE. You can start by looking at their
scripts!



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Re: Hard Mail Question

[Odhiambo Washington]

* Sean Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20040824 02:12]: wrote:
> Without using "leave mail on server" or "leave mail on server for x days" 
> is it possible after I have downloaded my email to my computer using pop3 
> to put it back so I can access it from a different computer.  Possibly ftp 
> it back to the server and copy it to my mail directory to redownload it? or 
> mabey install imap and place it in my inbox folder on my local drive... 
> would that throw it back on the server?
> 
> FreeBSD 4.10 and Sendmail

Hi Sean,

The easy answer is NO.
The complicated answer is "everything is possible under the sky".
Maybe yes, if you ask this question on [EMAIL PROTECTED] ;)

You will ask them to direct you to a tool that takes a .dbx file, splits
it into individual e-mails, in a format that is not proprietary to
Microshit and then you can FTP those back to the server, placing them
either in ~smurphy/Maildir/new/ or in /var/mail/smurphy - I guess you
already see how much time you will waste using Microshit products!


-Wash

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Re: Embedded freebsd How to?

[Andrew L. Gould]

On Monday 23 August 2004 11:21 pm, Gerard Samuel wrote:
> Andrew L. Gould wrote:
> > On Monday 23 August 2004 07:41 pm, Gerard Samuel wrote:
> >>Well I've been using FBSD since 3.4, and I would like to
> >>try my hand at trying to put together an embedded FBSD system.
> >>I browsed the -small mailing list, but there doesnt seem to be
> >>any relevant up to date data there (I may be mistaken).
> >>I did a bit of googling, but Im not finding what Im looking
> >>for.
> >>I kept running into "Embedded FreeBSD Cookbook".  Anyone thoughts
> >> on this book.
> >>But other than that, are there any online how to tutorial,
> >>that would show an almost beginner on how to get started.
> >>
> >>Thanks for any input you may provide...
> >
> > Go to http://soekris.com/ and click on Support.  You'll find some
> > tutorials on installing FreeBSD on their embedded boards.  One of
> > the tutorials is "miniBSD - reducing FreeBSD".
> >
> > Also, Michael Lucas has an article on installing OpenBSD on one of
> > their boards:
> > http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2004/03/11/Big_Scary_Daemons.html
> >
> > Best of luck,
>
> Seems my options are limited, but thanks for the links...

I don't think you're options are limited.  These are just examples that 
have come to the attention of someone who does NOT do embedded stuff.

Best regards,

Andrew Gould
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