The printf function
I executed the following printf (in a Korn shell command-line) printf 't %2$s .\n' 3 55 and got the following response printf: illegal format character $ The following is an excerpt from the man-3 page for printf . Each conversion specification is introduced by the character %. The arguments must correspond properly (after type promo- tion) with the conversion specifier. After the %, the following appear in sequence: o An optional field, consisting of a decimal digit string followed by a $, specifying the next argument to access . If this field is not provided, the argument following the last argument accessed will be used. Arguments are numbered starting at 1. If unaccessed arguments in the format string are interspersed with ones that are accessed the results will be indeterminate. The printf should have produced t 55 . as output. Can we please get it fixed?!?! My system is FreeBSD 4.3 on: FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE #0: Sat Apr 21 10:54:49 GMT 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC i386 _ Get ready for school! Find articles, homework help and more in the Back to School Guide! http://special.msn.com/network/04backtoschool.armx ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: portscan looks like....
Hi Bob, PORT STATE SERVICE 22/tcp open ssh 25/tcp open smtp 80/tcp open http 111/tcp open rpcbind 1023/tcp open netvenuechat now, i made a faux pas when i configured this machine and had made this a nfs client...i belive that was the case. I am now interested in turning this off, and will be able to do that with rpcbind_enable=NO in rc.conf. perfectly. Then there is the case of the port 1023. I have no idea how to turn this off or how it got turned on. Could the rpcbind allowed someone into my computer to hack it up? I am pretty scared at this point. First try to disable rpcbind and look afterwards, if port 1023 is still open. If it ist, install lsof from ports. This tool will tell you which application is listening on this port. -volker ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mounting sunos hdd in freebsd
I have a HDD where i have installed SunOS. Now I connect it with another PC as a Primary Slave. In the Primary Master HDD FreeBSD 5.1 is installed. Now i want to mount second HDD so that I can access data from the second HDD which is in SunOS file system. Who can I do this. Any suggestion. Mohammad Fakrul Alam ___ Do you Yahoo!? Win 1 of 4,000 free domain names from Yahoo! Enter now. http://promotions.yahoo.com/goldrush ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Embedded freebsd How to?
On Monday 23 August 2004 11:21 pm, Gerard Samuel wrote: Andrew L. Gould wrote: On Monday 23 August 2004 07:41 pm, Gerard Samuel wrote: Well I've been using FBSD since 3.4, and I would like to try my hand at trying to put together an embedded FBSD system. I browsed the -small mailing list, but there doesnt seem to be any relevant up to date data there (I may be mistaken). I did a bit of googling, but Im not finding what Im looking for. I kept running into Embedded FreeBSD Cookbook. Anyone thoughts on this book. But other than that, are there any online how to tutorial, that would show an almost beginner on how to get started. Thanks for any input you may provide... Go to http://soekris.com/ and click on Support. You'll find some tutorials on installing FreeBSD on their embedded boards. One of the tutorials is miniBSD - reducing FreeBSD. Also, Michael Lucas has an article on installing OpenBSD on one of their boards: http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2004/03/11/Big_Scary_Daemons.html Best of luck, Seems my options are limited, but thanks for the links... I don't think you're options are limited. These are just examples that have come to the attention of someone who does NOT do embedded stuff. Best regards, Andrew Gould ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hard Mail Question
* Sean Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20040824 02:12]: wrote: Without using leave mail on server or leave mail on server for x days is it possible after I have downloaded my email to my computer using pop3 to put it back so I can access it from a different computer. Possibly ftp it back to the server and copy it to my mail directory to redownload it? or mabey install imap and place it in my inbox folder on my local drive... would that throw it back on the server? FreeBSD 4.10 and Sendmail Hi Sean, The easy answer is NO. The complicated answer is everything is possible under the sky. Maybe yes, if you ask this question on [EMAIL PROTECTED] ;) You will ask them to direct you to a tool that takes a .dbx file, splits it into individual e-mails, in a format that is not proprietary to Microshit and then you can FTP those back to the server, placing them either in ~smurphy/Maildir/new/ or in /var/mail/smurphy - I guess you already see how much time you will waste using Microshit products! -Wash http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html -- +==+ |\ _,,,---,,_ | Odhiambo Washington[EMAIL PROTECTED] Zzz /,`.-'`'-. ;-;;,_ | Wananchi Online Ltd. www.wananchi.com |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-'| Tel: +254 20 313985-9 +254 20 313922 '---''(_/--' `-'\_) | GSM: +254 722 743223 +254 733 744121 +==+ Q: How many Martians does it take to screw in a lightbulb? A: One and a half. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: custom boot disk
* Incoming Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20040824 00:25]: wrote: Can anyone provide a pointer to a good how-to on creating a customized bootable disk? Specifically, I'm trying to understand: 1) How do you create a 64mb (for example) memory file system as part of the boot procedure? 2) How do you instruct init to mount the newly created memory file system and then populate via an image containing system files? 3) How do you instruct init to start executing a specific shell or c program once the memory file system is populated? There is a project called FreeSBIE. You can start by looking at their scripts! -Wash http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html -- +==+ |\ _,,,---,,_ | Odhiambo Washington[EMAIL PROTECTED] Zzz /,`.-'`'-. ;-;;,_ | Wananchi Online Ltd. www.wananchi.com |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-'| Tel: +254 20 313985-9 +254 20 313922 '---''(_/--' `-'\_) | GSM: +254 722 743223 +254 733 744121 +==+ If you eat a live frog in the morning, nothing worse will happen to either of you for the rest of the day. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: missing /dev/fd0 after upgrading to FBSD-6.0-CURRENT
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20040824 00:12]: wrote: Hi all, this is my problem ! After cvsupping from FBSD-5.2 to FBSD-6.0-CURRENT I miss fd0 in /dev. Consequently accssing floppy is not possible anymore. It must have something to do with devfs. I tried 'mknod /dev/fd0 ...' but could not find out the correct major/minor numbers for the floppy driver. Any suggestion helping solve the problem is highly appreciated (sure, the real problem is my stupidity, but this is not solvable anymore) Just two questions: 1. Why must you run -CURRENT? 2. Did you make build|install kernel|world after the cvsup? If everything was successful, then you simply have to shift your base from freebsd-question to freebsd-current mailing list! A better advise for you: There is 5.3-BETA1 out there on the ftp servers. Wipe clean your drive, get this BETA and install it. You can then ask questions related to it on this list. -Wash http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html -- +==+ |\ _,,,---,,_ | Odhiambo Washington[EMAIL PROTECTED] Zzz /,`.-'`'-. ;-;;,_ | Wananchi Online Ltd. www.wananchi.com |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-'| Tel: +254 20 313985-9 +254 20 313922 '---''(_/--' `-'\_) | GSM: +254 722 743223 +254 733 744121 +==+ That woman speaks eight languages and can't say no in any of them. -- Dorothy Parker ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SCSI disk to disk dump restore
* Dan Rue [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20040824 00:01]: wrote: Hey Gang, I had an older scsi disk going bad, so I picked up a new disk to replace it. I did a dump | restore to move the data to the new disk, but it went far slower than expected. I'm wondering if there's an issue with the different disk speeds. Old disk from dmesg: da0: QUANTUM ATLAS IV 18 WLS 0808 Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da0: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 31, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 17522MB (35885168 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 2233C) New disk, as reported by dmesg (it's a seagate U320): da2: SEAGATE ST336607LW 0007 Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da2: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da2: 35003MB (71687372 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 4462C) The dump was 13G, and took about 2 hours. I calculated that out to be about 1.8MB/s. Of course, that's total time I'm sure there's some dump overhead (though, i didn't use -L) - but still, 2 hours for 13G?! Well, depends! I used a dump|restore (without -L) recently and it took me like 5 hours to complete the dump for 28GB. I'm thinking there was a jumper or parameter I should have set due to the different disk types. Note that I removed da0, but there's still another quantum in the machine on the scsi chain. I also had another disk on the SCSI chain. How much time did you expect to achieve as optimum? Based on what factors? -Wash http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html -- +==+ |\ _,,,---,,_ | Odhiambo Washington[EMAIL PROTECTED] Zzz /,`.-'`'-. ;-;;,_ | Wananchi Online Ltd. www.wananchi.com |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-'| Tel: +254 20 313985-9 +254 20 313922 '---''(_/--' `-'\_) | GSM: +254 722 743223 +254 733 744121 +==+ Given the choice between accomplishing something and just lying around, I'd rather lie around. No contest. -- Eric Clapton ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hard Mail Question
On Monday 23 August 2004 04:11 pm, Sean Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Without using leave mail on server or leave mail on server for x days is it possible after I have downloaded my email to my computer using pop3 to put it back so I can access it from a different computer. Possibly ftp it back to the server and copy it to my mail directory to redownload it? or mabey install imap and place it in my inbox folder on my local drive... would that throw it back on the server? No - the previous answer to your query was correct - but imap is going in the right direction. You could set up an imap server on your own FreeBSD machine and access your email and all your folders from anywhere with it, even from multiple accounts (which can be pop3 or imap, or whatever), feeding into your imap server. Of course, you have to set up your machine as a real mail server to do this, which might not be what you want to do. - jt ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: portscan looks like....
On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 08:37:30AM +0200, Volker Kindermann wrote: Hi Bob, PORT STATE SERVICE 22/tcp open ssh 25/tcp open smtp 80/tcp open http 111/tcp open rpcbind 1023/tcp open netvenuechat [...] Then there is the case of the port 1023. I have no idea how to turn this off or how it got turned on. Could the rpcbind allowed someone into my computer to hack it up? I am pretty scared at this point. First try to disable rpcbind and look afterwards, if port 1023 is still open. If it ist, install lsof from ports. This tool will tell you which application is listening on this port. sockstat(1) will tell you that just as well, and it's a standard part of the system. Chances are port 1023 is open because of portmap(8) (a.k.a rpcbind(8) in 5.x). To see what ports portmap is managing, use the rpcinfo(8) command: # rpcinfo -p As for telling if your system has been compromised, it depends on the level of sophistication of whoever attacks you. Chances are that if you're just an ordinary home user without any particular secrets or other motives for anyone to break in, you'll not come to the attention of anyone good enough to cover their tracks thoroughly. In fact, about the only sort of intrusion attempt you're likely to see would be automated or semi-automated attacks /intended for Linux or Windows servers/ by Skript Kiddiez. Needless to say, these tend not to work. The most effective things you can do to prevent yourself being compromised are: - keep your system and ports up to date - be vigilant: look at what the daily security e-mail is telling you, subscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and/or [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that you get notified of any security advisories. Scan through system logs for anomalous entries occasionally. Check for strange processes (use ps(1)) or for logins from odd systems or at odd times (use last(1)). - Install security/portaudit so that you get notifications of any vulnerabilities in your installed ports - Think about what you are doing as you use the system. Get into good security habits: try and ensure that processes/users have only the minimum necessary permissions in order to function. Always use ssh(1) or similarly encrypted channels for remote access to systems. Never log in directly as root -- use su(1) or better, sudo(1) instead. Always use secure (ie. unguessable) passwords -- install and use security/apg if you find it hard to think up good ones. There's a shedload of useful monitoring software you can install to help you detect if you have been attacked or compromised, but for most home users, it's really overkill. Particularly noteworthy are security/snort -- which will examine all of the network traffic reaching your system and detect which of it is unfriendly -- and one of the security/tripwire ports, which will build a cryptographically secured database of checksums of all of the important files on your system which you can use to immediately detect any changes. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK pgpwSzv8szu9a.pgp Description: PGP signature
uname -v shows no difference after buildkernel and installkernel etc
Hi all, I recently did the following: installed FreeBSD 5.2.1 from the iso cvsup'd the source (using tag=RELENG_5_2) followed section 19 of the handbook followed section 8 for the kernel rebuild and did a custom kernel (placing in /root/kernels and linking it, as per section 8.3) everything went well did a mergmaster and didn't accept any changes (it was a fresh system) rebooted and logged in did uname -v and got the same output as before all the above (Feb build date (5.2.1, right?), reference to GENERIC kernel not my custom kernel - my search of the list archives tells me it should show the local machine and a recent date in this output) Do I need to update somewhere to tell the system to boot the new kernel? If so, I totally missed that in the handbook (whoops). This also leads me to ask how one best confirms the system has changed? Thanks in advance for any help, August ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SCP
Hi Guys I have to FreeBSD boxes next to each other and would like to copy a directory from the mail server to the firewall.I have root access to both the PC's.The directory on the mail server is /home/www/trafd and I would like to copy it to the fw to /usr/ports/net/ . Here is the command I tried : scp /home/www/trafd mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: /usr/trafd Please if someone can help Spidey ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SCP
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 12:28:23 +0200, Spidey Knepscheld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Guys I have to FreeBSD boxes next to each other and would like to copy a directory from the mail server to the firewall.I have root access to both the PC's.The directory on the mail server is /home/www/trafd and I would like to copy it to the fw to /usr/ports/net/ . Here is the command I tried : scp /home/www/trafd mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: /usr/trafd I think it's more like this: scp [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/path/to/remote/dir/* /path/to/local/dir/ i'm still pretty new at this but if i'm not mistaken root can't login remotely by default, so unless you've allowed that it'll fail. hope this helps ... august Please if someone can help Spidey ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SCP
* Spidey Knepscheld [EMAIL PROTECTED] [0828 11:28]: Hi Guys I have to FreeBSD boxes next to each other and would like to copy a directory from the mail server to the firewall.I have root access to both the PC's.The directory on the mail server is /home/www/trafd and I would like to copy it to the fw to /usr/ports/net/ . Here is the command I tried : scp /home/www/trafd mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: /usr/trafd I assume the mailto link is sowe crap inserted by your mailer? Also there shouldn't be a space between the colon and the /usr/trafd, and you'd need a -r flag to recursively do it. Also , tell us what error you got - I'd assume you aren't allowed to ssh as root into 196.15.213.253 Please if someone can help try rsync, that's much faster than scp: rsync -vaz -e ssh /home/www/trafd [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/trafd -- Q: How many Martians does it take to screw in a lightbulb? A: One and a half. Rasputin :: Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] fishing for addresses
Klaus, Chris (ISSAtlanta) wrote: This is an automated message. I apologize for the inconvenience, but I need your help in fighting spam. Messages from approved senders go directly to my Inbox. Messages from addresses that have not put into my whitelist are quarantined until the address of the sender can be confirmed. TO CONFIRM YOUR ADDRESS PLEASE REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE WITHOUT MODIFYING THE SUBJECT. There is no need to include any additional information in your reply. I will be notified of your original message immediately and you should not receive a confirmation message like this from me in the future. Thanks! LOL, sure I'll sign up for some MORE spam. Thanks for the generous offer! ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The printf function
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004, Gerald S. Stoller wrote: I executed the following printf (in a Korn shell command-line) printf 't %2$s .\n' 3 55 and got the following response printf: illegal format character $ The following is an excerpt from the man-3 page for printf . 'man 3 printf' shows the man page for the C library function printf. 'man 1 printf' shows the man page for the printf *program*, which does not appear to support the $ format string. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hard Mail Question
On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 11:03:34AM +0300, Odhiambo Washington typed: * Sean Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20040824 02:12]: wrote: Without using leave mail on server or leave mail on server for x days is it possible after I have downloaded my email to my computer using pop3 to put it back so I can access it from a different computer. Possibly ftp it back to the server and copy it to my mail directory to redownload it? or mabey install imap and place it in my inbox folder on my local drive... would that throw it back on the server? FreeBSD 4.10 and Sendmail Hi Sean, The easy answer is NO. The complicated answer is everything is possible under the sky. Maybe yes, if you ask this question on [EMAIL PROTECTED] ;) You will ask them to direct you to a tool that takes a .dbx file, splits it into individual e-mails, in a format that is not proprietary to Microshit and then you can FTP those back to the server, placing them either in ~smurphy/Maildir/new/ or in /var/mail/smurphy - I guess you already see how much time you will waste using Microshit products! Actually, since Sean seems to be using Eudora (X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.1.1), whose files are in the standard Unix mailbox format, simply uploading the mailbox file and appending it to /var/mail/user on the server *should* do the trick. Ruben ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hard Mail Question
On Mon, Aug 23, 2004 at 04:11:49PM -0700, Sean Murphy wrote: Without using leave mail on server or leave mail on server for x days is it possible after I have downloaded my email to my computer using pop3 to put it back so I can access it from a different computer. Possibly ftp it back to the server and copy it to my mail directory to redownload it? or mabey install imap and place it in my inbox folder on my local drive... would that throw it back on the server? FreeBSD 4.10 and Sendmail You could use UIDL on your pop3-client (e.g. fetchmail). It keeps a database of which mails have been downloaded already (using server-side checksums), and that way you could leave all your mail on one central server, downloading it on different clients (and downloading every mail only once per client). Your .fetchmailrc would look something like this: poll pop3-server with protocol POP3 options uidl user pop3-username there with password pop3-password is local-username here options keep GH ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: portscan looks like....
On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 12:12:10AM -0400, Bob Ababurko wrote: PORT STATE SERVICE 22/tcp open ssh 25/tcp open smtp 80/tcp open http 111/tcp open rpcbind 1023/tcp open netvenuechat with sockstat(1) its possible to list which daemon is listing on which port. the column PID shows the corresponding process id. a simple kill pid should be enough to stop that daemon. but indeed 1023 looks interesting. if you really don't know which kind of daemon is listing on that port, i would try telneting to it. hopefully it's not some kind of root backdoor :-) hth, toni -- Wer es einmal so weit gebracht hat, dass er nicht | toni at stderror dot at mehr irrt, der hat auch zu arbeiten aufgehoert| Toni Schmidbauer -- Max Planck | pgpnBdJAnzTBo.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: apsfilter and Epson Stylus C63 on Current
- Mensaje original - De: Anish Mistry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fecha: Lunes, Agosto 23, 2004 11:59 pm Asunto: Re: apsfilter and Epson Stylus C63 on Current -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Just to check, you have removed the base install's lp* utilities right? No, I must have read over, under, around and/or through that in the cups howto's I been using. Let me be sure that I am understanding. I should remove lpd, lpq, lpc, lpr, lprm and family to use cups? That could definitely be the problem because I have't done it. Thanks, I'll give it a try in a few. ed ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
About Resellers
Do you have any reseller in cyprus?Because if you have got anyone in my country I would like to become one. Thank you in advance, Demetris Terlikas ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
High Availability Solution
Does anyone know of a high availability solution that works on freebsd? I have two freebsd servers and would like to have them operate in a way that if one fails, the second kicks in. Thanks. Joseph. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SCSI disk to disk dump restore
On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 11:12:10AM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote: * Dan Rue [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20040824 00:01]: wrote: Hey Gang, I had an older scsi disk going bad, so I picked up a new disk to replace it. I did a dump | restore to move the data to the new disk, but it went far slower than expected. I'm wondering if there's an issue with the different disk speeds. Try experimenting the b option (number of buffers). You will find it does make a difference. Marc -- Marc Wiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, that really is my last name. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: High Availability Solution
Joseph Begumisa [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does anyone know of a high availability solution that works on freebsd? I have two freebsd servers and would like to have them operate in a way that if one fails, the second kicks in. Take a look at net/freevrrpd. -- Christian Laursen ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Embedded freebsd How to?
Andrew L. Gould wrote: On Monday 23 August 2004 11:21 pm, Gerard Samuel wrote: Andrew L. Gould wrote: On Monday 23 August 2004 07:41 pm, Gerard Samuel wrote: Well I've been using FBSD since 3.4, and I would like to try my hand at trying to put together an embedded FBSD system. I browsed the -small mailing list, but there doesnt seem to be any relevant up to date data there (I may be mistaken). I did a bit of googling, but Im not finding what Im looking for. I kept running into Embedded FreeBSD Cookbook. Anyone thoughts on this book. But other than that, are there any online how to tutorial, that would show an almost beginner on how to get started. Thanks for any input you may provide... Go to http://soekris.com/ and click on Support. You'll find some tutorials on installing FreeBSD on their embedded boards. One of the tutorials is miniBSD - reducing FreeBSD. Also, Michael Lucas has an article on installing OpenBSD on one of their boards: http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2004/03/11/Big_Scary_Daemons.html Best of luck, Seems my options are limited, but thanks for the links... I don't think you're options are limited. These are just examples that have come to the attention of someone who does NOT do embedded stuff. Understood. What I meant by limited was that it seems (with respect to hardware), it seems like the hardware side of things isn't as widespread as I thought it would have been (compared to *normal* hardware, aka AT/ATX etc). I was previously aware of soekris through mOrOwall (which gave me the idea of putting one together myself). But then again, I've only begun searching yesterday, so what do I know :) Thanks once again... ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
BCM4401-B0 card error on FreeBSD 5.2.1
I also had same problem but succeeded in making BCM4401-B0 work, thanks to following information with this dirty quick patch. --- src/sys/dev/bfe/if_bfereg.h.origWed Sep 10 03:17:22 2003 +++ src/sys/dev/bfe/if_bfereg.h Tue Aug 24 22:13:10 2004 @@ -393,7 +393,11 @@ #define BFE_REG_PCI 0x18002000 #define BCOM_VENDORID 0x14E4 +#if 0 #define BCOM_DEVICEID_BCM4401 0x4401 +#else +#define BCOM_DEVICEID_BCM4401 0x170c +#endif #define PCI_SETBIT(dev, reg, x, s) \ pci_write_config(dev, reg, (pci_read_config(dev, reg, s) | (x)), s) I I just recompiled a 4.10 kernel with bfe support. I grab source code from http://people.freebsd.org/~dmlb/bfe-4.8.tar.gz At boot time, I get: pci1: unknown card (vendor=0x14e4, dev=0x170c) at 14.0 irq 11 When I try to insert the driver manually: module_register: module pci/bfe already exists! linker_file_sysinit if_bfe.ko failed to register! 17 I think I'm gone go back to Linux... cheers, Guillaume Mark wrote: You may have to build a kernel with the device bge # gig cards device bfe # 10- 100 cards entries to build the moduals, I would have thought they were with the base system. But I had to build a kernel for the bfe modual to work. Side note: The bfe entry is not in the GENERIC kernel on 4.10 but will build and work. The bge modual would not find my broadcom 4401. On Mon, Jul 26, 2004 at 05:00:39PM +0200, Guillaume Goutaudier wrote: bge gives me exactly the same error message. And still nothing like bge0: ... in dmesg output. Try bge. On Mon, Jul 26, 2004 at 03:11:42PM +0200, Guillaume Goutaudier wrote: / Hi all, // // I'm trying to move from Linux to FreeBSD on my compaq nx5000 laptop. // The FreeBSD version I installed is 5.2.1. // // I have a problem with the integrated broadcom BCM4401-B0 NIC. // // This is not a BCM4401 but a BCM4401-B0 card (PCI ID = 0x170c), and // the bfe driver does not seem to work: // // In the dmesg output, I don't have a single line with bfe0: // Instead, all I have is: // // pci1: network, ethernet at device 14.0 (no driver attached) // // When I try to install the bfe module manually, I get: // // # kldload miibus.ko // interface miibus.1 already present in the KLD 'kernel'! // kldload: can't load miibus.ko: file exists // # kldload if_bfe.ko // module_register: module pci/bfe already exists! // Module pci/bfe failed to register: 17 // module_register: module bfe/miibus already exists! // Module bfe/miibus failed to register: 17 // // I'm not familiar at all with *BSD drivers stuff so any help will be // REALLY appreciated ... // // cheers, // // // Guillaume // / ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: About Resellers
On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 01:33:33PM +0300, Demetris Terlikas wrote: Do you have any reseller in cyprus?Because if you have got anyone in my country I would like to become one. Reseller probably isn't quite the right word, as the FreeBSD project isn't a commercial organisation. It's basically a bunch of people who've got together to develop an operating system. So, there's no licensing or any other issues which prevent you from selling FreeBSD installation CD-Rom sets, much like DaemonNews (BSDMall) and FreeBSDMall do in the USA: http://www.bsdmall.com/ http://www.freebsdmall.com/cgi-bin/fm On the other hand, there's no formal support from the FreeBSD project either. Of course, people are quite often happy to volunteer and help out where this is seen as aiding the project as a whole, but it's going to be up to you to put together your product and do all of the marketing etc. If you're selling boxed copies of the installer disks, it's usual to use the disc1 and disc2 .iso images from one of the FreeBSD FTP sites, and add a DVD or a couple more CD Roms filled with packages to the bundle. It's usual, but not obligatory, to make some sort of contribution back towards the running costs of the project if you sell CD Roms, books, stickers, tee-shirts etc. derived from FreeBSD stuff. Note that the BSD daemon logo is copyright Marshall Kirk McKusic and you will need explicit permission from him if you intend to use that image. See: http://www.mckusick.com/beastie/index.html Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK pgp4yVvjbqV1k.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: High Availability Solution
On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 03:41:41PM +0300, Joseph Begumisa wrote: Does anyone know of a high availability solution that works on freebsd? I have two freebsd servers and would like to have them operate in a way that if one fails, the second kicks in. How you do this depends very much on the nature of the services those machines are providing. If it's a stateless service -- like serving out static content from a web server, then you can use a pretty rudimentary web switch that just round-robins between the two -- see the Apache docs on mod_rewrite and mod_proxy for some ideas. If you're building a firewall, then the PF firewall code recently imported from OpenBSD is something you should find interesting: one of it's excellent features is the CARP 'Common Address Redundancy Protocol' which has been ported: http://pf4freebsd.love2party.net/carp.html but I'm not sure if it's going to be in the up-and-coming 5.3-RELEASE. Beyond that, there are any number of tricks using net/freevrrp -- the trick with these however is to ensure that any necessary data containing the state of a session is distributed over all of the servers, or else failover won't work quite so well. Most databases have replication features nowadays (MySQL has this available by default in the standard install, for Postgresql, look at the databases/slony1 port.) Other sorts of service -- well, to get a more precise answer you'll just have to describe what you want to do in a less vague way. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK pgpa5QwpDtAjM.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: High Availability Solution
On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 03:41:41PM +0300 or thereabouts, Joseph Begumisa wrote: Does anyone know of a high availability solution that works on freebsd? I have two freebsd servers and would like to have them operate in a way that if one fails, the second kicks in. And what about this one named SG Cluster? http://www.freebsd.org.hk/html/sgcluster/ I am going to look into it in next few days. -- Martin Hudec| corwin at aeternal.net | corwin at web.markiza.sk http://www.aeternal.net | cell +421 907 303 393 pgpI0uONWwx0R.pgp Description: PGP signature
IPC:ShareLite will not compile om 4.10
Has anyone solved this issue yet? http://groups.google.nl/groups?q=Bad+realloc()+ignored+at+blib/lib/IPC/ShareLite.pmhl=nllr=ie=UTF-8selm=200406142310.i5ENAsBl028101%40manage.padtechnologies.comrnum=2 I have two identical 5.8.5 Perls, one compiled with ithreads, the other not. Funnily enough, IPC:Sharelite compiles fine on the threaded Perl; the unthread one core dumps in the test (and usage), as mentioned in the above article. I really need IPC:Sharelite to work on both versions. BTW, when I was on Freebsd 4.7. way back when, the same thing occured: worked on thread-enabled Perl, but not on regular one. Very weird. - Mark ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: uname -v shows no difference after buildkernel and installkernel etc
On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 08:20:51PM +1000, August Simonelli wrote: Hi all, I recently did the following: installed FreeBSD 5.2.1 from the iso cvsup'd the source (using tag=RELENG_5_2) followed section 19 of the handbook followed section 8 for the kernel rebuild and did a custom kernel (placing in /root/kernels and linking it, as per section 8.3) everything went well did a mergmaster and didn't accept any changes (it was a fresh system) rebooted and logged in did uname -v and got the same output as before all the above (Feb build date (5.2.1, right?), reference to GENERIC kernel not my custom kernel - my search of the list archives tells me it should show the local machine and a recent date in this output) Do I need to update somewhere to tell the system to boot the new kernel? If so, I totally missed that in the handbook (whoops). This also leads me to ask how one best confirms the system has changed? Thanks in advance for any help, August What does your symlink look like? So you put the newly built kernel in /root/kernels, then did something like?: # ln -s /root/kernels/mykernel /boot/kernel/kernel Nathan -- PGP Public Key: pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xD8527E49 pgpFzABVfReyJ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: High Availability Solution
http://redundancy.redundancy.org/fbsd_lb.html - Original Message - From: Joseph Begumisa [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 5:41 AM Subject: High Availability Solution Does anyone know of a high availability solution that works on freebsd? I have two freebsd servers and would like to have them operate in a way that if one fails, the second kicks in. Thanks. Joseph. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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ALTQ@5.2.1-RELEASE-p9 ?
Hey, I wanted to know if the patches available for ALTQ on FreeBSD 5.x work on 5.2.1. I can't test this myself because the only 5.2.1 server I have is a production server and I'd like to be 100% sure it will work first. I don't know if the patches will apply cleanly, the latest I found were for 5.2-CURRENT. Does the patch for 5.2 works on 5.2.1-release-p9 ? Regards, Hugo ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SCSI disk to disk dump restore
On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 11:12:10AM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote: * Dan Rue [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20040824 00:01]: wrote: Hey Gang, I had an older scsi disk going bad, so I picked up a new disk to replace it. I did a dump | restore to move the data to the new disk, but it went far slower than expected. I'm wondering if there's an issue with the different disk speeds. Old disk from dmesg: da0: QUANTUM ATLAS IV 18 WLS 0808 Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da0: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 31, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 17522MB (35885168 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 2233C) New disk, as reported by dmesg (it's a seagate U320): da2: SEAGATE ST336607LW 0007 Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da2: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da2: 35003MB (71687372 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 4462C) The dump was 13G, and took about 2 hours. I calculated that out to be about 1.8MB/s. Of course, that's total time I'm sure there's some dump overhead (though, i didn't use -L) - but still, 2 hours for 13G?! Well, depends! I used a dump|restore (without -L) recently and it took me like 5 hours to complete the dump for 28GB. I'm thinking there was a jumper or parameter I should have set due to the different disk types. Note that I removed da0, but there's still another quantum in the machine on the scsi chain. I also had another disk on the SCSI chain. How much time did you expect to achieve as optimum? Based on what factors? Ok, well that's good enough for me. I don't have a lot of experience with SCSI or dump - so I thought maybe I was hitting some caveat, especially with the mixed drive types. Thanks for the info it sounds like my numbers were about right after all. drue ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Installing ports
Hi! I'm using FreeBSD 5.2.1 and I'm in trouble with installing software using the ports collection. After typing make install everything seems to be okay, but in most cases I get a message like this after a few minutes: fetch time out It seemed to me that the mirror servers are not uptodate or that some filenames have changed in the meantime, because fetching data from ftp-servers worked a few times. But in nearly all cases I had to copy the files manually in /usr/ports/distfiles as make install finally suggested. So I installed a new ports-collection with sysinstall over ftp but things haven't changed. I'm a little confused, because fetching data from FreeSD ftp-servers doesn't work too (remember that some fetches were successful!). Please help me, Florian -- Florian Hengstberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://stud3.tuwien.ac.at/~e0025265 -- ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Reinstalling, then upgrading (Was Re: Salvageable? (Was Re:make installworld error))
Lowell Gilbert said: In FreeBSD, a port is a third-party application ported to be built from source on your system. A package is a pre-compiled binary of that port. Once installed, they are both tracked (and removable) by the same database, usually referred to as the package database. See the FreeBSD Handbook section on Installing Applications: Packages and Ports for a full explanation. Just out of curiosity, is it incorrect to simply say that ports build packages? That is, once a piece of software is installed with 'make install', is it treated the same as any package that was installed from the installation CD? (If not, or if the relationship is really a whole lot more complex than that, then my rant below doesn't apply.) A lot of new users can't readily tell the difference between a port and package and frequently use the two terms interchangably. The handbook gives an overview of both ports and package but stops short of clearly spelling out this important distinction. But at the same time, it also implies that ports and packages are two completely separate ways of installing software when in reality they are actually two parts of the same system. The phrase ports build packages is a neat and efficient way of rectifying the misunderstandings that can occur when trying to give a proper explanation of FreeBSD package management. -- Charles Ulrich System Administrator Ideal Solution - http://www.idealso.com -- Charles Ulrich System Administrator Ideal Solution - http://www.idealso.com ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hard Mail Question
Odhiambo Washington said: * Sean Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20040824 02:12]: wrote: Without using leave mail on server or leave mail on server for x days is it possible after I have downloaded my email to my computer using pop3 to put it back so I can access it from a different computer. Possibly ftp it back to the server and copy it to my mail directory to redownload it? or mabey install imap and place it in my inbox folder on my local drive... would that throw it back on the server? FreeBSD 4.10 and Sendmail Hi Sean, The easy answer is NO. The other easy answer is YES. Just open up your mail client and send the messages back to yourself. It's always worked for me. -- Charles Ulrich System Administrator Ideal Solution - http://www.idealso.com ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing ports
Are your local ports-tree up-to-date? Hi! I'm using FreeBSD 5.2.1 and I'm in trouble with installing software using the ports collection. After typing make install everything seems to be okay, but in most cases I get a message like this after a few minutes: fetch time out It seemed to me that the mirror servers are not uptodate or that some filenames have changed in the meantime, because fetching data from ftp-servers worked a few times. But in nearly all cases I had to copy the files manually in /usr/ports/distfiles as make install finally suggested. So I installed a new ports-collection with sysinstall over ftp but things haven't changed. I'm a little confused, because fetching data from FreeSD ftp-servers doesn't work too (remember that some fetches were successful!). Please help me, Florian -- Florian Hengstberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://stud3.tuwien.ac.at/~e0025265 -- -- Joel ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing ports
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 20:11:49 +0200 Florian Hengstberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! I'm using FreeBSD 5.2.1 and I'm in trouble with installing software using the ports collection. After typing make install everything seems to be okay, but in most cases I get a message like this after a few minutes: fetch time out hello florian, could you please help us to help you, by providing more details? for example, it would be really useful to know which ports you're having the problem with. it could indeed be that the mirrors for a given port may require updating (but we're not going to look at all +11k ports just because you dropped us a line ;) i get the feeling that you are experiencing the problem with many different ports. as such, mirror lists are an unlikely culprit (or we would be seeing a lot of such complaints on the mailing lists). It seemed to me that the mirror servers are not uptodate or that some filenames have changed in the meantime, because fetching data from ftp-servers worked a few times. But in nearly all cases I had to copy the files manually in /usr/ports/distfiles as make install finally suggested. So I installed a new ports-collection with sysinstall over ftp but things haven't changed. I'm a little confused, because fetching data from FreeSD ftp-servers doesn't work too (remember that some fetches were successful!). i have never installed a new ports collection this way, so i cannot speak about the reliability of this method. cvsup, on the other hand, is a method for which i (and the handbook) can vouch. if you haven't already, check out the handbook entry on cvsup (section III-A-4). it should probably clear up your issue (unless, of course, you're having a networking problem). if you're in a pinch, you can probably also download a copy of the tree from ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/ports/ports.tar.gz and extract it over your existing /usr/ports i don't know how often that tarball is updated, but the latest timestamp on it is 2004.08.24 03:38:00, so it should work too. anyway. hope this helps. cheers, epi Please help me, Florian -- Florian Hengstberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://stud3.tuwien.ac.at/~e0025265 -- ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Reinstalling, then upgrading (Was Re: Salvageable? (Was Re:make installworld error))
Charles Ulrich wrote: The phrase ports build packages is a neat and efficient way of rectifying the misunderstandings that can occur when trying to give a proper explanation of FreeBSD package management. Charles, Thank you for concisely answering a burning question I didn't know how to ask. I had gathered the concept that if I built a port I was stuck with it, because it couldn't be removed as easily as something installed as a package. Jay O'Brien ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing ports
Hi! I'm using FreeBSD 5.2.1 and I'm in trouble with installing software using the ports collection. After typing make install everything seems to be okay, but in most cases I get a message like this after a few minutes: fetch time out It seemed to me that the mirror servers are not uptodate or that some filenames have changed in the meantime, because fetching data from ftp-servers worked a few times. But in nearly all cases I had to copy the files manually in /usr/ports/distfiles as make install finally suggested. So I installed a new ports-collection with sysinstall over ftp but things haven't changed. I'm a little confused, because fetching data from FreeSD ftp-servers doesn't work too (remember that some fetches were successful!). Please help me, Florian -- Florian Hengstberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://stud3.tuwien.ac.at/~e0025265 -- Are you behind a proxy?? I had a box behind squid once, had to set fetch to look for the squid server -- == The information contained in this communication is confidential, private, proprietary, or otherwise privileged and is intended only for the use of the addressee. Unauthorized use, disclosure, distribution or copying is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately. == ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Reinstalling, then upgrading (Was Re: Salvageable? (Was Re:make installworld error))
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 14:47:03 -0400 (EDT) Charles Ulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lowell Gilbert said: In FreeBSD, a port is a third-party application ported to be built from source on your system. A package is a pre-compiled binary of that port. Once installed, they are both tracked (and removable) by the same database, usually referred to as the package database. See the FreeBSD Handbook section on Installing Applications: Packages and Ports for a full explanation. Just out of curiosity, is it incorrect to simply say that ports build packages? Yes. That is, once a piece of software is installed with 'make install', is it treated the same as any package that was installed from the installation CD? (If not, or if the relationship is really a whole lot more complex than that, then my rant below doesn't apply.) A lot of new users can't readily tell the difference between a port and package and frequently use the two terms interchangably. mostly the users who: a) don't bother to read the handbook b) read the handbook too quickly (ie. skim it) c) read the handbook in a language which isn't their own d) other... (feel free to add your own variations ;) The handbook gives an overview of both ports and package but stops short of clearly spelling out this important distinction. Taken directly from our beloved handbook: 4.2 Overview of Software Installation If you have used a UNIX® system before you will know that the typical procedure for installing third party software goes something like this: 1. Download the software, which might be distributed in source code format, or as a binary. 2. Unpack the software from its distribution format(typically a tarball compressed with compress(1), gzip(1), or bzip2(1)). 3. Locate the documentation (perhaps an INSTALL or README file, or some files in a doc/ subdirectory) and read up on how to install the software. 4. If the software was distributed in source format, compile it. This may involve editing a Makefile, or running a configure script, and other work. 5. Test and install the software. And that is only if everything goes well. If you are installing a software package that was not deliberately ported to FreeBSD you may even have to go in and edit the code to make it work properly. Should you want to, you can continue to install software the ``traditional'' way with FreeBSD. However, FreeBSD provides two technologies which can save you a lot of effort: packages and ports. At the time of writing, over 10,500 third party applications have been made available in this way. For any given application, the FreeBSD package for that application is a single file which you must download. The package contains pre-compiled copies of all the commands for the application, as well as any configuration files or documentation. A downloaded package file can be manipulated with FreeBSD package management commands, such as pkg_add(1), pkg_delete(1), pkg_info(1), and so on. Installing a new application can be carried out with a single command. FreeBSD port for an application is a collection of files designed to automate the process of compiling an application from source code . Remember that there are a number of steps you would normally carry out if you compiled a program yourself (downloading, unpacking, patching, compiling, installing). The files that make up a port contain all the necessary information to allow the system to do this for you. hope that this helps to clear up any confusion you might have had. cheers, epi But at the same time, it also implies that ports and packages are two completely separate ways of installing software when in reality they are actually two parts of the same system. The phrase ports build packages is a neat and efficient way of rectifying the misunderstandings that can occur when trying to give a proper explanation of FreeBSD package management. -- Charles Ulrich System Administrator the fbsd handbook is one of the very best in *nixland. please pay it the attention it deserves. Ideal Solution - http://www.idealso.com -- Charles Ulrich System Administrator Ideal Solution - http://www.idealso.com ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Reinstalling, then upgrading (Was Re: Salvageable? (Was Re:make installworld error))
Charles Ulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just out of curiosity, is it incorrect to simply say that ports build packages? No, packages are indeed built from ports. That is, once a piece of software is installed with 'make install', is it treated the same as any package that was installed from the installation CD? Not only are they handled the same, but once installed, they are completely indistinguishable. (If not, or if the relationship is really a whole lot more complex than that, then my rant below doesn't apply.) You understand it perfectly, except for the fact that the noun package is often used to refer to a tar file which can be fed to pkg_add(1). A lot of new users can't readily tell the difference between a port and package and frequently use the two terms interchangably. The handbook gives an overview of both ports and package but stops short of clearly spelling out this important distinction. You mean where it says: For any given application, the FreeBSD package for that application is a single file which you must download. The package contains pre-compiled copies of all the commands for the application, as well as any configuration files or documentation. A downloaded package file can be manipulated with FreeBSD package management commands, such as pkg_add(1), pkg_delete(1), pkg_info(1), and so on. Installing a new application can be carried out with a single command. A FreeBSD port for an application is a collection of files designed to automate the process of compiling an application from source code. That seems pretty clear about the distinction to me. But at the same time, it also implies that ports and packages are two completely separate ways of installing software when in reality they are actually two parts of the same system. I'd say that they're actually two different ways of accessing the same database; a slight difference of emphasis... The phrase ports build packages is a neat and efficient way of rectifying the misunderstandings that can occur when trying to give a proper explanation of FreeBSD package management. A quick search on the FAQ and Handbook gives me the impression that most generic references discuss installing from ports and(/or) packages rather than one or the other. If you think you see specific places to improve the documentation, please write it up and submit it in a Problem Report. FreeBSD is, after all, a volunteer project...;2~ ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing ports
Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi! I'm using FreeBSD 5.2.1 and I'm in trouble with installing software using the ports collection. After typing make install everything seems to be okay, but in most cases I get a message like this after a few minutes: fetch time out It seemed to me that the mirror servers are not uptodate or that some filenames have changed in the meantime, because fetching data from ftp-servers worked a few times. But in nearly all cases I had to copy the files manually in /usr/ports/distfiles as make install finally suggested. So I installed a new ports-collection with sysinstall over ftp but things haven't changed. I'm a little confused, because fetching data from FreeSD ftp-servers doesn't work too (remember that some fetches were successful!). Please help me, Florian -- Florian Hengstberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://stud3.tuwien.ac.at/~e0025265 -- Are you behind a proxy?? I had a box behind squid once, had to set fetch to look for the squid server Or maybe behind a firewall that is messing up FTP? [Maybe the fetches that succeeded were all via HTTP?] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Reinstalling, then upgrading (Was Re: Salvageable? (Was Re:make installworld error))
On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 12:13:31PM -0700, Jay O'Brien wrote: Charles Ulrich wrote: The phrase ports build packages is a neat and efficient way of rectifying the misunderstandings that can occur when trying to give a proper explanation of FreeBSD package management. Thank you for concisely answering a burning question I didn't know how to ask. I had gathered the concept that if I built a port I was stuck with it, because it couldn't be removed as easily as something installed as a package. That phrase -- ports build packages is just so right on so many levels. Except for the literal description of what actually happens. If I was feeling pedantic, I'd say ports build and install software, and also create a packaging list. A package is simply a shortcut method of using that packaging list to gather together all of those files into an archive in order to copy them to a different machine. But it really doesn't have the same ring to it. Most people know that to build a package you simply change to the correct ports directory and type: # make package Which is fine and dandy most of the time. What deserves to be more widely known is that you can create a package fron any already installed port: # pkg_create -b pkg-name which saves a lot of effort trying to recompile things and is a really handy way to back stuff up. As it stands, you can't make a package without also installing the corresponding port. For many reasons it would be very handy to avoid that: ie. to be able to install the port into a chroot'ed area and assemble the package from there. Avoids conflicts with already installed ports or the need to de-install and re-install a port if you want a different set of options for the package. Also a lot of the time it would make it feasible to build packages as a mortal user, rather than requiring root access. This has been discussed on several occasions in the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list, and there are various patch sets floating around. As I understand it though, quite a lot of ports would need remedial work if that functionality was to be introduced, which is what has kept anything from being committed yet. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK pgpZ9V0Yf82nj.pgp Description: PGP signature
buggy filtermail-0.7
Has anyone got a working filtermail-0.7 port ?
Building and installing is fine, but the result is useless because of the
following bug:
algol{me} ~ filtermail
filtermail: 0.7 querying [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tue Aug 24 15:45:24 2004.filtermail:
Examining 1 message(s).
filtermail: Deny: Harald Weis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Tue 24 3H41, Tue, 24 Aug 2004
15:43:04 +0200 [Return-Path exceeded maxlength].
algol{me} ~
All messages produce the same output in test mode.
And if test is set to NO, all messages are consequently deleted :-(
The timestamp of the tarball fetched by 'portupgrade' is still
14 Feb 2004. I've been told that the bug was fixed on 24 Apr and that
I should 'cvs' the source.
But I can't build the port from the cvs-tree of the mailfilter development
branch because of some incompatibility of the autotools (it does not work
with automake18, according to the mailfilter developer it builds alright
with automake17 on Linux. Trying to install automake17 does fail -
'make check' shows 11 failures, so I guess there is no need to run
'make install'.
Thanks for any help,
Harald
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Re: Installing ports
Florian Hengstberger wrote: fetch time out It seemed to me that the mirror servers are not uptodate or that some filenames have changed in the meantime, because fetching data from ftp-servers worked a few times. But in nearly all cases I had to copy the files manually in /usr/ports/distfiles as make install finally suggested. I had similar problems and it took me a while to figure it out. The FTPs that worked for me were the ones I manually started, not the ones done by the ports makefiles. I'm accessing through a firewall and it seems that when ftp is used there it doesn't automagically try to use passive mode. I needed to add FTP_PASSIVE_MODE=YES to my environment variables. I don't remember exactly where it went though. Joe. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing ports
Florian Hengstberger wrote: Hi! I'm using FreeBSD 5.2.1 and I'm in trouble with installing software using the ports collection. After typing make install everything seems to be okay, but in most cases I get a message like this after a few minutes: fetch time out It seemed to me that the mirror servers are not uptodate or that some filenames have changed in the meantime, because fetching data from ftp-servers worked a few times. But in nearly all cases I had to copy the files manually in /usr/ports/distfiles as make install finally suggested. So I installed a new ports-collection with sysinstall over ftp but things haven't changed. I'm a little confused, because fetching data from FreeSD ftp-servers doesn't work too (remember that some fetches were successful!). Please help me, Florian A new ports-collection with sysinstall? Maybe someone else knows if what you really get from that is new. Mostly people seem to use cvsup to update the ports tree. Try comparing some of the version number in your /usr/ports/category/program/Makefile with the ones at ftp.freebsd.org. Are the versions the same? If it's not, try installing cvsup or cvsup-without-gui as a pkg (you can do that from sysinstall without issues, I'm guessing) and cvsup to the latest release of ports by editing /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile as appropriate and then: $cvsup /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile Now, I guess by suggesting that I'm still assuming it is a problem with an out-of-date tree. If you're sure it's not out of date, the other possibility is connectivity, I guess? Can you give a specific example of the error (e.g., which port you were trying to build), and quote the output from make install? That might help a bit. Kevin Kinsey ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FreeBSD Certifications? Does it exist?
I am wondering if there is any official cert or course for BSD style operating systems. Something like RedHat RHCE in Linux and their official courses Having a paper on hand doesn't mean you know and NOT having also doesn't mean you don't know, But most employer now days look for that paper ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Reinstalling, then upgrading (Was Re: Salvageable? (Was Re:make installworld error))
Matthew Seaman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That phrase -- ports build packages is just so right on so many levels. Except for the literal description of what actually happens. It seems that a lot of the supposed confusion of novices comes from the fact that we don't have a separate word to refer to a port or package *after* it has been installed. People make a naive assumption that the package database has something to do with packages but not with ports... ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Initial floppy install 5.2.1 fails - error: fatal trap 9
Hi, Initial floppy install with 5.2.1. We have 12 PCs for a classroom which are completely identical. They have a P4P800-VM motherboard with updated BIOS. The CPU is Intel 2.8 GHZ. For the strangest reason, the install worked on 1 machine and failed on all the others we tried it on. It is NOT the diskettes as we are using the same physical install diskettes for all these machines. We thought it may be a BIOS problem - we checked the functionning system against all the other system - they are identical. We have one other system which is different than the others and the install went also fine. Now, the install works without a problem with 4.10 floppies. Any idea? It seems to fail before is starts to detect the pci-isa bridge but it was not an issue with our first machine. pci0: serial bus, SMBus at device 31.3 (no driver attached) pci0: multimedia, audio at device 31.5 (no driver attached) Fatal trap 9: general protection fault while in kernel mode cpuid = 0; apic id = 00 instruction pointer = 0x58:0x2d6c stack pointer = 0x10:0xf80 frame pointer = 0x10:0x0 code segment= base 0xc00f, limit 0x, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 0, gran 0 processor eflags= interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 0 (swapper) trap number = 9 panic: general protection fault --- Martin Laflamme Operations VP CCNA, CCNP, CCDA, CCDP Cisco Certified Academy Instructor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Marketbridge Technologies, Inc. http://www.marketbridge.com Suite B-101 1066 Somerset St. West Ottawa, ON K1Y 4T3 Office: (613) 728-5504 Toll Free: (877) 595-5504 Cell: (613) 295-5504 FAX: (613) 841-8370 ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: FreeBSD Certifications? Does it exist?
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apache permission problem please help
SEE ERROR BELOW Was playing with permissions on my home dirs last night and changed everything to chmod 700 had some problem with users looking at and copying other users webpages. I have a directory in each users home dir named www where they keep there web files ie /usr/home/username/www so i guess when i changed everything to 700 apache was unable to use these files. Now i have tried the best i can to change everything back set to chmod to 655 and even tried moving a site to /usr/local/www/username in hope that apache could read it there but no luck what has happened please help. Wait now things have started to work, for the web site that i moved to /usr/local/www/username. There seems to be some lag after i make changes to the permissions and restart apache is this possible. I have a real mess on my hands now guess i will have to play with permissions and modes now to get all the sites backup. How do i set up home directories that are secure for each user ie other users on the system cannot read them but apache can. Should i move all web pages to the /usr/local/www dir. Also is there some way to automate this so that when i create a new user or modify a file things will work correctly. Have been using UNIX for many years finally got up the courage to play with modes and perms. Guess i shot myself in the foot like i have been warned about by many people and docs. PLEASE HELP Forbidden You don't have permission to access / on this server. Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request. Apache/2.0.49 (Unix) PHP/4.3.5 mod_ssl/2.0.49 OpenSSL/0.9.7d Server at v2.computerking.ca Port 80 ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apsfilter and Epson Stylus C63 on Current
- Mensaje original - De: edwinculp [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fecha: Martes, Agosto 24, 2004 7:21 am Asunto: Re: apsfilter and Epson Stylus C63 on Current - Mensaje original - De: Anish Mistry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fecha: Lunes, Agosto 23, 2004 11:59 pm Asunto: Re: apsfilter and Epson Stylus C63 on Current -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Just to check, you have removed the base install's lp* utilities right? No, I must have read over, under, around and/or through that in the cups howto's I been using. Let me be sure that I am understanding. I should remove lpd, lpq, lpc, lpr, lprm and family to use cups? That could definitely be the problem because I have't done it. Thanks, I'll give it a try in a few. Nope, didn't work or even change anything. I can still print the cups test page and anything form gimp but nothing through the cups configuration nor can I configure the C63 with apsfilter because it isn't in gs although ijs is compiled in and there must be a way to use the gimp-print driver through gs or update apsfilter to use the new gimp-print drivers but I haven't found either. Thanks again, Anish, for the suggestion. ed ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
apache permission problem please help
SEE ERROR BELOW Was playing with permissions on my home dirs last night and changed everything to chmod 700 had some problem with users looking at and copying other users webpages. I have a directory in each users home dir named www where they keep there web files ie /usr/home/username/www so i guess when i changed everything to 700 apache was unable to use these files. Now i have tried the best i can to change everything back set to chmod to 655 and even tried moving a site to /usr/local/www/username in hope that apache could read it there but no luck what has happened please help. Wait now things have started to work, for the web site that i moved to /usr/local/www/username. There seems to be some lag after i make changes to the permissions and restart apache is this possible. I have a real mess on my hands now guess i will have to play with permissions and modes now to get all the sites backup. How do i set up home directories that are secure for each user ie other users on the system cannot read them but apache can. Should i move all web pages to the /usr/local/www dir. Also is there some way to automate this so that when i create a new user or modify a file things will work correctly. Have been using UNIX for many years finally got up the courage to play with modes and perms. Guess i shot myself in the foot like i have been warned about by many people and docs. PLEASE HELP Forbidden You don't have permission to access / on this server. Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request. Apache/2.0.49 (Unix) PHP/4.3.5 mod_ssl/2.0.49 OpenSSL/0.9.7d Server at v2.computerking.ca Port 80 ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sendmail from 4.10-STABLE firewall
Chuck Swiger wrote: Joe Kraft wrote: I'm using a 4.10-STABLE based firewall, which is happily chugging along. It's sending it's daily messages to a local account via sendmail, which I check by logging in using an ssh connection. [ ... ] 3) Is there a way to convince sendmail to send to something like [EMAIL PROTECTED] I could just put that in my existing aliases file and not have to install anything more. The key part of your request is answered by using IP addrs in square brackets, which will not require DNS MX or A lookups. So, add something like: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...to the ~/.forward file of root or wherever the mail is going to now. Yes, you could put this in the aliases, or even use a mailertable to redirect all local mail to the other system. I tried doing it that way and it wouldn't go out either. I wound up adding the 10.0.0.55 server to /etc/hosts and letting sendmail do it's lookup there. I never convinced sendmail to send to to the user foo on the 10.0.0.55 server, is that supposed to be possible? Joe. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bash programming, copy only onefile?
A quiz easy to write, hard to answer? In bash, how can I write a command that moves the oldest file in a directory to a new direction? ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apache permission problem please help
On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 03:09:04PM -0600, RYAN vAN GINNEKEN wrote: SEE ERROR BELOW Was playing with permissions on my home dirs last night and changed everything to chmod 700 had some problem with users looking at and copying other users webpages. I have a directory in each users home dir named www where they keep there web files ie /usr/home/username/www so i guess when i changed everything to 700 apache was unable to use these files. Now i have tried the best i can to change everything back set to chmod to 655 and even tried moving a site to /usr/local/www/username in hope that apache could read it there but no luck what has happened please help. Wait now things have started to work, for the web site that i moved to /usr/local/www/username. There seems to be some lag after i make changes to the permissions and restart apache is this possible. I have a real mess on my hands now guess i will have to play with permissions and modes now to get all the sites backup. How do i set up home directories that are secure for each user ie other users on the system cannot read them but apache can. Should i move all web pages to the /usr/local/www dir. Also is there some way to automate this so that when i create a new user or modify a file things will work correctly. Have been using UNIX for many years finally got up the courage to play with modes and perms. Guess i shot myself in the foot like i have been warned about by many people and docs. snip A better approach would be to set each users home dir itself to 700 permissions, not necessarily all the files and directories in each users dir. Are you using a httpd.conf directive such as Directory /home/*/public_html to allow users to publish files from their home dir, or are you putting sym links in the web root? Nathan -- PGP Public Key: pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xD8527E49 pgp8QHJ10Aiig.pgp Description: PGP signature
no user interface
I just installed 5.2.1 via download onto cdr media. I left about 10 gigs open for freebsd, and left 9 for my win2000. the dual boot works fine on my dell laptop, however when i go to load freebsd 5.2.1, i cant get into a graphical interface. Instead it stays in a dos-like interface with commands only. It recognizes my user name and the admin name of root, but there is only a command line and no background. i installed cd1, i have a boot only and a second disc which i have not installed. please point me in the correct direction james heck _ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
problem with portupgrade.. or so it seems
Hi all, I have a machine running 4.10 stable that has a problem whenever I try to run portsdb -Uu. The message the scrolls down the screen is as follows: /usr/ports/INDEX:11586:Port info line must consist of 10 fields. That number changes... it basically goes from 0 to that (for all I know) as I can only go as far back as about 11300 I tried deleting the INDEX, INDEX.db files and such from /usr/ports and running make index to generate a new one, and I keep getting this error. I have even tried using a new tool I recently learned of here on this list called portindex, and I get the same error, except I don't have to wait 2 hours to see it. I even went as far as to delete /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db and even rm -rf /usr/ports/* and using sysinstall to reinstall the ports. I can't avoid getting that error, and the result is portinstall simply doesn't work because it can't find any packages. The odd thing is that another box had freebsd installed and upgraded to -STABLE at about the same time, and while it at first had the same error, forcing portsdb to reconstruct the database worked for that machine, as was suggested on the man page. Why on earth wouldn't it work for this other machine? Thanks in advance for any insight into this Sandro M. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: uname -v shows no difference after buildkernel and installkernel etc
August What does your symlink look like? So you put the newly built kernel in /root/kernels, then did something like?: # ln -s /root/kernels/mykernel /boot/kernel/kernel I followed the example in 8.3: # cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf # mkdir /root/kernels # cp GENERIC /root/kernels/MYKERNEL # ln -s /root/kernels/MYKERNEL so now I have the following symlink: /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/MYCUSTOM - /root/kernels/MYCUSTOM and I built and installed with that as my KERNCONF value. I do still have GENERIC sitting in that directory. Does it use GENERIC first by default? Thanks again, august ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cvsup
Ok, just to be certain about this. I have 4.8 installed and am about to do a cvsup here is my stable-supfile *default host=cvsup1.us.freebsd.org *default base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4 *default delete use-rel-suffix src-all And I put my refuse file in /usr/local/etc/cvsup/sup/ Am I ready to roll? ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: no user interface
james heck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just installed 5.2.1 via download onto cdr media. I left about 10 gigs open for freebsd, and left 9 for my win2000. the dual boot works fine on my dell laptop, however when i go to load freebsd 5.2.1, i cant get into a graphical interface. Instead it stays in a dos-like interface with commands only. Bite your tongue! Microsoft tried for _years_ to make the DOS command line as powerful as a Unix shell and failed miserably. It recognizes my user name and the admin name of root, but there is only a command line and no background. i installed cd1, i have a boot only and a second disc which i have not installed. please point me in the correct direction http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11.html Once you've read that, if you hit problems following the instructions, don't hesitate to ask specific questions on this list. We'll be happy to help. -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: no user interface
You do have a user interface, just not a graphical one :-) Anyway, You have to manually install/configure the desktop environment.. if you have all the cds, run /stand/sysinstall as root, do post configuration on freebsd, and add the packages needed (mainly X, and your graphical environment of choice (kde,gnome,...) I just installed 5.2.1 via download onto cdr media. I left about 10 gigs open for freebsd, and left 9 for my win2000. the dual boot works fine on my dell laptop, however when i go to load freebsd 5.2.1, i cant get into a graphical interface. Instead it stays in a dos-like interface with commands only. It recognizes my user name and the admin name of root, but there is only a command line and no background. i installed cd1, i have a boot only and a second disc which i have not installed. please point me in the correct direction james heck _ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- www.6s-gaming.com ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
postfix smtp auth TLS , cyrus sasl SSL/TLS
Trying to get cyrus with SSL/TLS, as well as postfix with smtp auth what I did: follow the howtos http://postfix.state-of-mind.de/patrick.koetter/smtpauth/sasldb_configuration.html http://yocum.org/faqs/postfix-tls-sasl.html things working so far: I can login to imap accounts using SSL or TLS, and CRAM-MD5, etc. This is with sasldb, as cyrus is configured with sasl_pwcheck_method: auxprop saslauthd is not running. strange issue: whenever login in successfully, /var/log/messages shows (IP changed) Aug 24 13:55:55 www imaps[2004]: login: adsl-X-X-X.pacbell.net [XX.XX.XX.XX] bruno CRAM-MD5+TLS User logged in and in /var/log/auth: Aug 24 13:55:55 www imaps[2004]: no user in db sasldblistusers2 shows the user is there. Stranger: when changing/adding/removing users to the sasldb database, I get this in /var/log/messages: Aug 24 14:04:37 www saslpasswd2: setpass succeeded for bruno Aug 24 14:04:37 www saslpasswd2: Couldn't update db Aug 24 14:04:37 www last message repeated 2 times I do not know which db is not being updated, because I can list users, and check they are in there. Since encrypted login to imaps essentially works, I would not care, but now that I am trying to get postfix smtp auth working through sasl, I think it might be an issue. When trying to login to postfix/smtp, the following message appears in /var/log/messages: Aug 24 15:49:50 www postfix/smtpd[2977]: warning: SASL authentication failure: no user in db Aug 24 15:49:50 www postfix/smtpd[2977]: warning: SASL authentication failure: no user in db Aug 24 15:49:50 www postfix/smtpd[2977]: warning: SASL authentication failure: no secret in database Aug 24 15:49:50 www postfix/smtpd[2977]: warning: XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX.pacbell.net[XX.XX.XX.XX]: SASL CRAM-MD5 authentication failed So, the questions are: - which db is not being updated ? - why is authentication failing with smtp and not imap ? Any help greatly appreciated ! bruno ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cvsup
it was said: Ok, just to be certain about this. I have 4.8 installed and am about to do a cvsup here is my stable-supfile *default host=cvsup1.us.freebsd.org *default base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4 *default delete use-rel-suffix src-all And I put my refuse file in /usr/local/etc/cvsup/sup/ Am I ready to roll? Hello, If you mean are you ready to update your base system to 4-STABLE, then yes, you're ready to roll. If you mean are you ready to update your entire system to the latest production release, then, no, you're not ready to roll. What are you trying to accomplish? Regards, Stheg ___ Do you Yahoo!? Win 1 of 4,000 free domain names from Yahoo! Enter now. http://promotions.yahoo.com/goldrush ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: uname -v shows no difference after buildkernel and installkernel etc
On Wed, Aug 25, 2004 at 08:32:48AM +1000, August Simonelli wrote: August What does your symlink look like? So you put the newly built kernel in /root/kernels, then did something like?: # ln -s /root/kernels/mykernel /boot/kernel/kernel I followed the example in 8.3: # cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf # mkdir /root/kernels # cp GENERIC /root/kernels/MYKERNEL # ln -s /root/kernels/MYKERNEL so now I have the following symlink: /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/MYCUSTOM - /root/kernels/MYCUSTOM and I built and installed with that as my KERNCONF value. I do still have GENERIC sitting in that directory. Does it use GENERIC first by default? Thanks again, august I apologize, when you said: ... did a custom kernel (placing in /root/kernels ... I took it too literally, thinking that for some odd reason you had put the actual built (binary) kernel into /root/kernels and were symlinking from /boot/kernel to that directory, as opposed to simply putting the kernel config file there. However, is it just a typing mistake that you say you link to MYKERNEL, but you say the actual links points to MYCUSTOM? Also, what does an `ls -l /boot/kernel/kernel` reveal? Does the modification time coincide with the time you actually built your custom kernel? Nathan Side note - I once tried the advice to put custom kernel config files at a subdirectory of /root, but personally found this more confusing in the long run. In about 5 years of running FreeBSD and building custom kernels I have never deleted the entire /usr/src directory and subsequently realized I had blasted my only copy of a custom kernel config. I personally found it to be one more layer of indirection that hassled me from time to time, and it was one more thing I had to remember. If I were worried about the possibility of deleting my custom kernel config files accidentally while one day recursively removing /usr/src, then I would personally prefer to just copy that kernel config to some other location for safe keeping. It's just my personal preference. One of the things that is so distressing to me about certain GNU/Linux distros is all the levels of indirection and seeming complexity - symlinks pointing to symlinks and things of that nature. -- PGP Public Key: pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xD8527E49 pgpmAI2l9MNw5.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Embedded freebsd How to?
On Tue, 2004-08-24 at 23:26, Gerard Samuel wrote: Andrew L. Gould wrote: On Monday 23 August 2004 11:21 pm, Gerard Samuel wrote: Andrew L. Gould wrote: On Monday 23 August 2004 07:41 pm, Gerard Samuel wrote: Well I've been using FBSD since 3.4, and I would like to try my hand at trying to put together an embedded FBSD system. I browsed the -small mailing list, but there doesnt seem to be any relevant up to date data there (I may be mistaken). I did a bit of googling, but Im not finding what Im looking for. I kept running into Embedded FreeBSD Cookbook. Anyone thoughts on this book. But other than that, are there any online how to tutorial, that would show an almost beginner on how to get started. Thanks for any input you may provide... Go to http://soekris.com/ and click on Support. You'll find some tutorials on installing FreeBSD on their embedded boards. One of the tutorials is miniBSD - reducing FreeBSD. Also, Michael Lucas has an article on installing OpenBSD on one of their boards: http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2004/03/11/Big_Scary_Daemons.html Best of luck, Seems my options are limited, but thanks for the links... I don't think you're options are limited. These are just examples that have come to the attention of someone who does NOT do embedded stuff. Understood. What I meant by limited was that it seems (with respect to hardware), it seems like the hardware side of things isn't as widespread as I thought it would have been (compared to *normal* hardware, aka AT/ATX etc). I was previously aware of soekris through mOrOwall (which gave me the idea of putting one together myself). But then again, I've only begun searching yesterday, so what do I know :) Thanks once again... miniBSD runs fine on the Advantech WEB-2143 (and probably also on the later cousins). We run it in 14Mb of a 32Mb CF card as a bridging firewall among other things. http://neon1.net/misc/minibsd.html for the 'recipe' .. be very aware of the static / dynamic libraries on the development box .. sigh -- Murray Taylor Special Projects Engineer - Bytecraft Systems Entertainment P: +61 3 8710 2555 F: +61 3 8710 2599 D: +61 3 9238 4275 M: +61 417 319 256 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit us on the web http://www.bytecraftsystems.com http://www.bytecraftentertainment.com --- The information transmitted in this e-mail is for the exclusive use of the intended addressee and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, re-transmission, dissemination or other use of it, or the taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons and/or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please inform the sender and/or addressee immediately and delete the material. E-mails may not be secure, may contain computer viruses and may be corrupted in transmission. Please carefully check this e-mail (and any attachment) accordingly. No warranties are given and no liability is accepted for any loss or damage caused by such matters. --- This Email has been scanned for Viruses by MailMarshal. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bash programming, copy only onefile?
On Wed, Aug 25, 2004 at 12:16:17AM +0200, Joachim Dagerot wrote:
A quiz easy to write, hard to answer?
In bash, how can I write a command that moves the oldest file in a
directory to a new direction?
Here is one possible way, certainly there are many others:
# ls -t /path/to/dir | tail -n 1 | xargs -i{} cp {} /path/to/location
Nathan
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Re: cvsup
On 24 Aug, 2004, at 16:07, stheg olloydson wrote: it was said: Ok, just to be certain about this. I have 4.8 installed and am about to do a cvsup here is my stable-supfile *default host=cvsup1.us.freebsd.org *default base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4 *default delete use-rel-suffix src-all And I put my refuse file in /usr/local/etc/cvsup/sup/ Am I ready to roll? Hello, If you mean are you ready to update your base system to 4-STABLE, then yes, you're ready to roll. If you mean are you ready to update your entire system to the latest production release, then, no, you're not ready to roll. What are you trying to accomplish? Regards, Stheg Right, just to 4-STABLE for now. After this I want to then try to upgrade to 5.x. Let's see how this goes first. Thanks! BTW! After updating to 4-STABLE do I then perform all the following steps? Go to /usr/src enter the command: make buildworld KERNCONF=yourkernelname then: make kernel reboot go to /usr/src and type: make installworld And what is a good kernel name? Maybe in this case, kernel.STABLE ? ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: no user interface
it was said: I just installed 5.2.1 via download onto cdr media. I left about 10 gigs open for freebsd, and left 9 for my win2000. the dual boot works fine on my dell laptop, however when i go to load freebsd 5.2.1, i cant get into a graphical interface. Instead it stays in a dos-like interface with commands only. It recognizes my user name and the admin name of root, but there is only a command line and no background. i installed cd1, i have a boot only and a second disc which i have not installed. please point me in the correct direction james heck Hello, On the off chance you're not trolling, Welcome to FreeBSD! That dos-like interface _IS_ the user interface. The graphical interface you incomprehensibly seem to have expected is the X window system. That is an add-on that runs on top of FreeBSD (much like MS Windows runs on top of MS-DOS). You will most likely want to run something along the lines of KDE or Gnome. Those are desktop environments somewhat similar to what you're used to. However, if you think that you will be using wizards and clicking thru dialogs, you are in for quite a surprise because you're not in Redmond any more. Remember, *nix Is user friendly; it's just particular about who its friends are. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html Regards, Stheg __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cvsup
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004, Curtis Vaughan wrote: BTW! After updating to 4-STABLE do I then perform all the following steps? Go to /usr/src enter the command: make buildworld KERNCONF=yourkernelname then: make kernel reboot go to /usr/src and type: make installworld No: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html The overview from the Handbook goes like this: # make buildworld # make buildkernel # make installkernel # reboot You should boot in single user mode (using boot -s from loader prompt for example). Then run: # mergemaster -p # make installworld # mergemaster # reboot (I don't boot into single user there, but it's definitely a good thing to do.) -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cvsup
I think he said he wants to cross the 4.x|5.x boundary as well. I haven't done that for several months, before and after the gcc version cut-over. He may need current guidance on that. FWIW, I'm going to be upgrading a mono-processor to the beta, but I'll be going the jrandom-5.x CD install, then cvsup'ing to the desired tag. Going 4.x to 5.x was memorable. I think that's when I started reading some of the directions. Eric ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apsfilter and Epson Stylus C63 on Current
edwinculp wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Just to check, you have removed the base install's lp* utilities right? No, I must have read over, under, around and/or through that in the cups howto's I been using. Let me be sure that I am understanding. I should remove lpd, lpq, lpc, lpr, lprm and family to use cups? That could definitely be the problem because I have't done it. Thanks, I'll give it a try in a few. Nope, didn't work or even change anything. I can still print the cups test page and anything form gimp but nothing through the cups configuration nor can I configure the C63 with apsfilter because it isn't in gs although ijs is compiled in and there must be a way to use the gimp-print driver through gs or update apsfilter to use the new gimp-print drivers but I haven't found either. Thanks again, Anish, for the suggestion. ed I'm interested in this also. I used Apsfilter to set up an Epson C62 that works fine except for printing email - it prints the ps code. I print web pages, .pdf files and .txt files fine. I haven't tested anything else, I mainly need the ability to print emails more than anything else. I have the same problem with a Lexmark E312 LazerJet. I haven't tried Cups, don't know the first thing about it. -- Chip ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cvsup
it was said: BTW! After updating to 4-STABLE do I then perform all the following steps? Go to /usr/src enter the command: make buildworld KERNCONF=yourkernelname then: make kernel reboot go to /usr/src and type: make installworld And what is a good kernel name? Maybe in this case, kernel.STABLE ? Hello, Aaahhh...no. You are leaving out steps. To clarify, in /usr/src, do this: make buildworld make buildkernel KERNCONF=WHATEVER (your edited conf file) make installkernel KERNCONF=WHATEVER reboot into single user mode mergemaster -p make installworld mergemaster reboot See http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-building.html (URL may have wrapped) just to be sure you haven't forgotten anything. A couple of notes: The supfile you are using does NOT update your ports. Speaking of which, using a refuse file is not recommended because mind a blank here, you get an error about something. The kernel name doesn't really matter if you do not swap kernels between machines and use different names (e.g. KERN1, KERN2) so you know which one you're running. Finally, I like to use script(1) to write a file to /var when I do builds so I can go back and actually read the WARNING: messages that whiz by and scare the bejesus out of me at 4:00 AM. __ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bash programming, copy only onefile?
On 2004-08-24 17:15, Nathan Kinkade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Aug 25, 2004 at 12:16:17AM +0200, Joachim Dagerot wrote:
A quiz easy to write, hard to answer?
In bash, how can I write a command that moves the oldest file in a
directory to a new direction?
Here is one possible way, certainly there are many others:
# ls -t /path/to/dir | tail -n 1 | xargs -i{} cp {} /path/to/location
In FreeBSD 5.X there's also stat(1) which can print the modification
time of files in a numeric format and can be used in pipes like this:
% stat -f '%m %N' * | sort -n | head -1 | cut -d ' ' -f 2-
This should print the filename of the file with the oldest modification
time. Access time or creation time can also be shown using the -f 'fmt'
argument of stat(1) but details about that can be found in the stat(1)
manpage.
- Giorgos
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Re: uname -v shows no difference after buildkernel and installkernel etc
I apologize, when you said: ... did a custom kernel (placing in /root/kernels ... I took it too literally, thinking that for some odd reason you had put the actual built (binary) kernel into /root/kernels and were symlinking from /boot/kernel to that directory, as opposed to simply putting the kernel config file there. However, is it just a typing mistake that you say you link to MYKERNEL, but you say the actual links points to Nah, just me being sloppy in my syntax; I got the names right (luckily) during the actual build (or did i ... interesting ...). MYCUSTOM? Also, what does an `ls -l /boot/kernel/kernel` reveal? Does the modification time coincide with the time you actually built your custom kernel? 94214 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 5940286 Feb 24 2004 /boot/kernel/kernel So it's the old one ... now, this is good, because on my other test system the kernel date is correct and uname -v is correct ... so, i've done something wrong and am gonna try it again ... i'm doing it at work and probably too distracted by my annoying users! :-) thanks for you help ... wish me luck on my second attempt! august ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Embedded freebsd How to?
Murray Taylor wrote: On Tue, 2004-08-24 at 23:26, Gerard Samuel wrote: Andrew L. Gould wrote: On Monday 23 August 2004 11:21 pm, Gerard Samuel wrote: Andrew L. Gould wrote: On Monday 23 August 2004 07:41 pm, Gerard Samuel wrote: Well I've been using FBSD since 3.4, and I would like to try my hand at trying to put together an embedded FBSD system. I browsed the -small mailing list, but there doesnt seem to be any relevant up to date data there (I may be mistaken). I did a bit of googling, but Im not finding what Im looking for. I kept running into Embedded FreeBSD Cookbook. Anyone thoughts on this book. But other than that, are there any online how to tutorial, that would show an almost beginner on how to get started. Thanks for any input you may provide... Go to http://soekris.com/ and click on Support. You'll find some tutorials on installing FreeBSD on their embedded boards. One of the tutorials is miniBSD - reducing FreeBSD. Also, Michael Lucas has an article on installing OpenBSD on one of their boards: http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2004/03/11/Big_Scary_Daemons.html Best of luck, Seems my options are limited, but thanks for the links... I don't think you're options are limited. These are just examples that have come to the attention of someone who does NOT do embedded stuff. Understood. What I meant by limited was that it seems (with respect to hardware), it seems like the hardware side of things isn't as widespread as I thought it would have been (compared to *normal* hardware, aka AT/ATX etc). I was previously aware of soekris through mOrOwall (which gave me the idea of putting one together myself). But then again, I've only begun searching yesterday, so what do I know :) Thanks once again... miniBSD runs fine on the Advantech WEB-2143 (and probably also on the later cousins). We run it in 14Mb of a 32Mb CF card as a bridging firewall among other things. http://neon1.net/misc/minibsd.html for the 'recipe' .. be very aware of the static / dynamic libraries on the development box .. sigh Thanks. I got the Advantech page bookmarked. After some searching around, I came across this - http://www.via.com.tw/en/VInternet/mini_itx.jsp as a platform. So the research continues... ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD Certifications? Does it exist?
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 16:48:48 -0400 JJB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am wondering if there is any official cert or course for BSD style operating systems. Something like RedHat RHCE in Linux and their official courses Having a paper on hand doesn't mean you know and NOT having also doesn't mean you don't know, But most employer now days look for that paper NJIT offers open source unix certification (and it's recognized/endorsed by the FreeBSD Foundation) http://cpe.njit.edu/noncredit/#opensourceunix avaiable both online and in classroom. ICK! seems a little pricey if you just want a cert... ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: uname -v shows no difference after buildkernel and installkernel etc
August, I've been following this thread today. It's very interesting. It appears to me, you mentioned your mistake in your first post. did a mergemaster and didn't accept any changes (it was a fresh system) rebooted and logged in Without accepting those changes, you kept what you had. It wasn't a fresh system and needed the information from mergemaster. If you didn't clear out /usr/obj, it might be possible to rerun mergemaster and accept the changes. I would keep MYCUSTOM somewhere other than /root/kernels. Personally, I use /home/save4rebuild, and keep a copy of everything else I think I might need. I've had to reinstall /, /var, /tmp, /usr, but I always manage to keep /home safe. Don == On Tuesday 24 August 2004 08:08 pm, August Simonelli wrote: Does the modification time coincide with the time you actually built your custom kernel? 94214 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 5940286 Feb 24 2004 /boot/kernel/kernel So it's the old one ... now, this is good, because on my other test system the kernel date is correct and uname -v is correct ... so, i've done something wrong and am gonna try it again ... i'm doing it at work and probably too distracted by my annoying users! :-) thanks for you help ... wish me luck on my second attempt! august ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
top: nlist failed
I recently upgraded a machine to 4.10-RELEASE-p2 from a fresh /usr/src from cvsup. $ top top: nlist failed $ systat systat: nlist: can't find following symbols: _ccpu _fscale $ vmstat vmstat: undefined symbols: _kmemstatistics _bucket _zlist $ uname -a FreeBSD host3 4.10-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 4.10-RELEASE-p2 #0: Tue Aug 24 19:46:34 PDT 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/HOST3 i386 I've taken a look at: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/troubleshoot.html#NLIST-FAILED and ruled out the first problem since the kernel and world are being compiled from the same branch/date. Any ideas? - chern ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: uname -v shows no difference after buildkernel and installkernel etc
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 22:11:47 -0500, Donald J. O'Neill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: August, I've been following this thread today. It's very interesting. It appears to me, you mentioned your mistake in your first post. did a mergemaster and didn't accept any changes (it was a fresh system) rebooted and logged in Without accepting those changes, you kept what you had. It wasn't a This is what is confusing me about mergemaster. Isn't it just for comparing and deciding which config files one wants kept? That is, if I have a modifed pkgtools.conf or rc.conf or whatever I should be able to merge it up with the newly rebuilt system (which would have fresh versions of such files). Or I could just tell it to keep my old config files cause they have all my modifications. I do get that the new conf files may have changes we need, so merging is better. Now, why am i babbling about this? Cause when doing the mergemaster on this system my fingers got really fat and I'm not sure how I answered. Maybe this lead to my problem. Would that cause a) the wrong kernel to be installed or just b) the wrong kernel to be reported (ie did i screw up the update of the file that stores the kernel details?). Also, just for clarification, it WAS a fresh system, so, in theory, mergemaster would not have had any changes to make (except if it updates some text string somwhere that is the basis for the uname -v, as in my and b options above). Sorry if this is painfully ignorant; I'm learning slowly! :-) fresh system and needed the information from mergemaster. If you didn't clear out /usr/obj, it might be possible to rerun mergemaster and accept the changes. I would keep MYCUSTOM somewhere other than /root/kernels. Personally, I use /home/save4rebuild, and keep a copy of everything else I think I might need. I've had to reinstall /, /var, /tmp, /usr, but I always manage to keep /home safe. This seems to be what most people are saying ... and i think it makes more sense. I have officially adopted save4rebuild for my systems! :-) back to me rebuild (celeron 433 is a bit slw). august ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD Certifications? Does it exist?
Vulpes Velox wrote: On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 16:48:48 -0400 JJB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am wondering if there is any official cert or course for BSD style operating systems. Something like RedHat RHCE in Linux and their official courses Having a paper on hand doesn't mean you know and NOT having also doesn't mean you don't know, But most employer now days look for that paper Human Resources looks for the paper, (which may be what gets you in the door), but the IT manager wants to see what you can do. NJIT offers open source unix certification (and it's recognized/endorsed by the FreeBSD Foundation) http://cpe.njit.edu/noncredit/#opensourceunix avaiable both online and in classroom. ICK! seems a little pricey if you just want a cert... Write them a note and see what they can offer you that you can't find elsewhere, I am. Bob Perry ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I've learned that whatever hits the fan will not be evenly distributed. FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE-p2 #0 ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
where to find what a port will try to download
Hi Matthew, I am trying to find out which files a port will try to download. E.g. JDK14. The Makefile has parameterised distfiles and I cant see where the parameters are resolved. I have looked in the other package files and cant see anything. I while back, when I knew less than nothing about cvsup, you mentioned that the JDK14 port now used a newer file from Sun. (the '_05' instead of the '_04' I was looking for) How did you know the port wanted the newer file ? And how did you find out the exact name ? Thanks Peter ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X issue
I'm having some issues, I believe with XFree86. I just installed FreeBSD 5.2.1 Rel, installed XFree86 v 4.3.0, then ran CVsup to update my ports tree, then installed Fluxbox from ports. I managed to configure it well enough to get into Fluxbox, but when I exited out from X, the system would hang. I ended up having to hard-shut it down after it hung. Now I cannot get back into X. When I run 'startx', the system hangs. What kind of things can I try now? Thanks, Dustin ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD Certifications? Does it exist?
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 23:37:51 -0400 Bob Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vulpes Velox wrote: On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 16:48:48 -0400 JJB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am wondering if there is any official cert or course for BSD style operating systems. Something like RedHat RHCE in Linux and their official courses Having a paper on hand doesn't mean you know and NOT having also doesn't mean you don't know, But most employer now days look for that paper Human Resources looks for the paper, (which may be what gets you in the door), but the IT manager wants to see what you can do. NJIT offers open source unix certification (and it's recognized/endorsed by the FreeBSD Foundation) http://cpe.njit.edu/noncredit/#opensourceunix avaiable both online and in classroom. ICK! seems a little pricey if you just want a cert... Write them a note and see what they can offer you that you can't find elsewhere, I am. They offer training and classes that come with a cert afterwards, from what I can tell. Would be nice just to see a place that offers just a cert and no classes. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD Certifications? Does it exist?
Vulpes Velox wrote: On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 23:37:51 -0400 Bob Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vulpes Velox wrote: On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 16:48:48 -0400 JJB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am wondering if there is any official cert or course for BSD style operating systems. Something like RedHat RHCE in Linux and their official courses Having a paper on hand doesn't mean you know and NOT having also doesn't mean you don't know, But most employer now days look for that paper Human Resources looks for the paper, (which may be what gets you in the door), but the IT manager wants to see what you can do. NJIT offers open source unix certification (and it's recognized/endorsed by the FreeBSD Foundation) http://cpe.njit.edu/noncredit/#opensourceunix avaiable both online and in classroom. ICK! seems a little pricey if you just want a cert... Write them a note and see what they can offer you that you can't find elsewhere, I am. They offer training and classes that come with a cert afterwards, from what I can tell. Would be nice just to see a place that offers just a cert and no classes. If I read the site correctly, they offer both classroom and, what they call, eLearning for their Distance Learning students. -- I've learned that whatever hits the fan will not be evenly distributed. FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE-p2 #0 ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X issue
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 23:00:47 -0500 Dustin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm having some issues, I believe with XFree86. I just installed FreeBSD 5.2.1 Rel, installed XFree86 v 4.3.0, then ran CVsup to update my ports tree, then installed Fluxbox from ports. I managed to configure it well enough to get into Fluxbox, but when I exited out from X, the system would hang. I ended up having to hard-shut it down after it hung. Now I cannot get back into X. When I run 'startx', the system hangs. What kind of things can I try now? I have had this happen once or twice... when you power back up you may find your config file X wasted(happened to me once)... you may also want to recompile the Xserver possibly too. BTW what video card and options set for it? I noticed the older nvidia drivers seemed more proned to going flaky than the newer ones have been so far. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: where to find what a port will try to download
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Peter Ryan wrote: | Hi Matthew, | | I am trying to find out which files a port will try to download. So umm your trying to figure out the dependencies of a package? | E.g. JDK14. The Makefile has parameterised distfiles and I cant see | where the parameters are resolved. I have looked in the other package | files and cant see anything. | | I while back, when I knew less than nothing about cvsup, you | mentioned that the JDK14 port now used a newer file from Sun. (the | '_05' instead of the '_04' I was looking for) | | How did you know the port wanted the newer file ? | | And how did you find out the exact name ? | | Thanks Well if you look at freshports and the jdk14 port: http://www.freshports.org/java/jdk14/ you can see that packages dependencies, and if you look at the linux-jdk package it depends on you can see: IGNORE: You must manually fetch the J2SE SDK self-extracting file for the Linux platform (j2sdk-1_4_2_05-linux-i586.bin) In the freshports site it details the differnt versions and when they were changed/updated. Is this what you were looking for? - -- www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/ - Do yourself a favor, don't use IE! http://www.transparentcorp.com/ - General Interest. PGP is Preferable for Email. GPG Key ID: 0x787AD6A9 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQCVAwUBQSwbTQx4IHh4etapAQKw0AP/fZ29G/xT18yzOz/MUlGlS40ngAyg8gM8 FYoDkpe/hsdXj0WSgIEAKPT/gTFMCAxNL83a2ZbveNaANWP3AkT7KWBlZVm2cNw0 gVV2EUSXZeXuF0fKDTQTm7E39KV60a0Epep1YQhTvyUk0vxEHYVh8bXWDbVQ72P9 udcfstgeqGc= =ewUH -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD Certifications? Does it exist?
On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 00:33:36 -0400 Bob Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They offer training and classes that come with a cert afterwards, from what I can tell. Would be nice just to see a place that offers just a cert and no classes. If I read the site correctly, they offer both classroom and, what they call, eLearning for their Distance Learning students. Unless they are offering a major difference in price, it still looks like way to much for just a cert and still a class. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: where to find what a port will try to download
| I am trying to find out which files a port will try to download. So umm your trying to figure out the dependencies of a package? | E.g. JDK14. The Makefile has parameterised distfiles and I cant see | where the parameters are resolved. I have looked in the other package | files and cant see anything. | | I while back, when I knew less than nothing about cvsup, you | mentioned that the JDK14 port now used a newer file from Sun. (the | '_05' instead of the '_04' I was looking for) | | How did you know the port wanted the newer file ? | | And how did you find out the exact name ? | | Thanks Well if you look at freshports and the jdk14 port: http://www.freshports.org/java/jdk14/ you can see that packages dependencies, and if you look at the linux-jdk package it depends on you can see: IGNORE: You must manually fetch the J2SE SDK self-extracting file for the Linux platform (j2sdk-1_4_2_05-linux-i586.bin) In the freshports site it details the differnt versions and when they were changed/updated. Is this what you were looking for? Hi Will - thanks. I can see the _05 file easily, but looking at freshports for jdk14, I cant see the other files that are downloaded into distfiles (eg, there are 3 more j2sdk* files required as well). Taking one as an example - j2sdk-1_4_2-src-scsl.zip. It is not at all clear to me where this file is named as part of the jdk14 download, or even where it appears in the Makefile. Any other clues ? Many thanks Peter are defined as part of jdk14. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
