Re: How to remove a patch from a port?

2004-10-21 Thread Joshua Tinnin
On Wednesday 20 October 2004 05:30 am, Ion-Mihai Tetcu 
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 On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 04:45:51 -0700
 Joshua Tinnin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Wednesday 20 October 2004 04:10 am, Ion-Mihai Tetcu
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  [ ... ]

Sorry, let me explain a bit better. Someone posted a patch to
-ports to upgrade xfce4 to the latest version, and I was
helping test it. The patch covered several ports, and it had a
few problems and was updated by the patch author, but I wasn't
quite sure how to back out of it and retest an updated patch
without having to cvsup my ports tree and start over. But like
I said, maybe there isn't some other method I'm missing, and
this is the way it's done ...
  
   Exactly where did you put this patch ? How did you applied it? it
   was a patch to the Makefile of the port or a patch for the source
   of the port ?
 
  It's a patch for the Makefiles of several ports in the xfce4
  metaport, so as to upgrade to the latest version. I patched it
  through (essentially):
 
  cd /usr/ports  patch -E  /localpath/to/patch

 If you don't cvsup quick (cvsup -s) you shouldn't need to remove
 the Makefile, as cvsup will see the file has been changed; this is
 not true if you _add_ a file that is not in the cvs in a port_dir and
 it's not guaranteed to work if you use cvsup's -s switch.

 Usually when I have to test Makefile patches I:
 cp Makefile Makefile.cvs
 patch ..  /path/to/patch
 cp Makefile Makefile.patched

 Which enables me to restore the official Makefle or add my own
 diff's.

Excellent. This is exactly the sort of advice I was hoping to get. I 
guess it's sort of obvious how to do this now that I think about it, 
but I thought maybe the reverse option (-r) had something to do with 
this, and I was missing something. For my purposes, I'll probably just 
write a script to copy backups of the affected Makefiles and another to 
copy them back in case I need to restore them, as there are several. 
Thanks!

- jt
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APC UPS question

2004-10-21 Thread Matt Navarre
I'm in the market for a UPS that works with FreeBSD. Does anyone know if the 
APC Back-UPS Pro 280VA Just Works with FreeBSD 4-STABLE and apcupsd? As far 
as I can tell apcupsd support for usb on FreeBSD is not reliable, but this 
one's serial and affordable but I'd like to know if it works before I buy.

Thanks.
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read variable with numeric values in tcsh

2004-10-21 Thread Martin Paredes

Hi:

in a script I wan to read from the user the strin 1 2 3 but I always get an 
error

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ set var $
1 2 3
set: Variable name must begin with a letter.

any ideas?

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[no subject]

2004-10-21 Thread mohammed arab
Hi FreeBSD,
Please help me I have IBM Net vista PIII and I installed FreeBSD 5.2 every 
thing ok only GUI. Please how can install FreeBSD with GUI.


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ssh: MS-Windows connection to 4-Stable is OK, but to 5.3 is not.

2004-10-21 Thread Rob
Hello,
A collegue of mine uses MS-Windows and connects to my FreeBSD
PCs with some Window Manager's software by SSH protocol.
To my 4-Stable PC (with SSH-3.5p1) this works just fine.
To my 5.3 PC (with SSH-3.8.1p1) the connection is refused.
We have tried again and again, double-checked the password and
so on. I think it has something to do with a different system
configuration of sshd. Can someone help me with this?
I have ran sshd in debug mode on the 5.3 FreeBSD PC, and I get:
# /usr/sbin/sshd -d
debug1: sshd version OpenSSH_3.8.1p1
debug1: read PEM private key done: type DSA
debug1: private host key: #0 type 2 DSA
debug1: Bind to port 22 on 0.0.0.0.
Server listening on 0.0.0.0 port 22.
debug1: Server will not fork when running in debugging mode.
debug1: res_init()
Connection from 147.46.50.42 port 3959
debug1: Client protocol version 2.0; client software version Xssh_1.0
debug1: no match: Xssh_1.0
debug1: Enabling compatibility mode for protocol 2.0
debug1: Local version string SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_3.8.1p1
debug1: permanently_set_uid: 22/22
debug1: list_hostkey_types: ssh-dss
debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT sent
debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT received
debug1: kex: client-server 3des-cbc hmac-sha1 zlib
debug1: kex: server-client 3des-cbc hmac-sha1 zlib
debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEXDH_INIT
debug1: Enabling compression at level 6.
debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS sent
debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS
debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS received
debug1: KEX done
debug1: userauth-request for user mdr service ssh-connection method password
debug1: attempt 0 failures 0
debug1: PAM: initializing for mdr
Failed password for mdr from 147.46.50.42 port 3959 ssh2
debug1: PAM: setting PAM_RHOST to surfion21
Connection closed by 147.46.50.42
debug1: do_cleanup
debug1: PAM: cleanup
debug1: do_cleanup
debug1: PAM: cleanup
- and here the ssh connection is cut off -
Thanks,
Rob.
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Java under Opera 7.54?

2004-10-21 Thread Brian Bobowski
Hi all.
Web browsers evidently don't like me. I'd prefer to run Firefox, but it  
frequently either core-dumps on signal 11 or just disappears entirely; as  
it is I'm basically only able to use it for Gmail. So I turned back to  
Opera, which has proven quite stable.

However, I've NEVER been able to get Java working under Opera. The docs  
say that it uses Java 2(various example paths have J2RE) and the only Java  
2 thing I can find is the SDK. Given the time it took to compile the JRE  
I've got, I'd rather not install that port only to find that it's useless  
to me.

FreeBSD 5.2.1, Opera 7.54, and I did try pointing Opera to my existing  
Java path, /usr/local/linux-sun-jdk1.4.2/jre/lib/i386/

When asked to Validate, Opera says it looks fine, but when I restart it,  
Help-About reports no JRE installed and Java applets don't work. The  
checkbox to activate Java is greyed out.

Has anyone been able to convince Java and Opera to get along under  
FreeBSD? If so, any help would be appreciated. I'm not the most technical  
of people, so while I can install FreeBSD just fine, the multitude of JREs  
and JDKs leaves me at a loss.

TIA.
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Re: Binary/ASCII File upload issues

2004-10-21 Thread Martin Paredes
On Monday 18 October 2004 02:43, nocturnal wrote:
 if i do file index.php on a file i uploaded that works just
 fine with php ran as cgi i get /path/index.php: a
 /usr/local/bin/php script text executable and if i do file
 index.php on a customers index.php file which i think they
 uploaded using binary transfer mode i get script text
 executable/bin/php only, the second file doesn't work using
 php as cgi, i get an internal server error, i know how to
 fix this but i'm wondering if anyone could explain why this
 happens on freebsd and if it's related to the ftp transfer

if you transfer a file from unix to unix system, always use binary.
but if you transfer from window to unix, you need to know if the file is text 
or binary

In windows, make a file that contain the next line and transfer in binary
Line1
Line2

In the unix edit the file with vi an you will see
Line1^M
Line2

In windows, the new line is conformed with 2 characters (10 and 13) and in 
unix with 1 character (13)

when you tranfer in ascii, the strings [10][13] are converted to [13]

maybe this extra character is the problem.

maps

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Swap - Vinum - G_Vinum

2004-10-21 Thread Mark Frasa
Hello,

I have found this link:
http://www.freebsd.de/archive/de-bsd-questions/de-bsd-questions.200410/0112.html

There is a statement in there:

Ab -- wahrscheinlich so -- 5.5-RELEASE wird vinum komplett durch
(ein formatkompatibles) geom-basiertes Vinum-Framework (g_vinum) ersetzt
(vielen Dank an Lukas Ertl, da er sich die Heidenarbeit macht). 

For the ones that can't read German: It says that g_vinum probably will be introduced 
in the FreeBSD 5.5-RELEASE.
Can anyone confirm/deny this?

I am currently waiting for the 5.3-RELEASE because someone told me g_vinum should be 
in there. 
Should it be better, since it is going te be a production server, to put in normal ATA 
disks and install 
FreeBSD 4.10-RELEASE where vinum does works correct?

Mark.
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FreeBSD STABLE, CURRENT and upgrading

2004-10-21 Thread Oliver Fuchs

Hi All,

I am using FreeBSD since 5.2 RELEASE and I am now running 5.2.1 RELEASE.
I upgraded between the two versions from scratch that means I backuped
the main configuration files and directories (like home), deleted the
old version, installed the new one and reconfigured the whole system.

As I see 5.3 is now coming up so I want to avoid this procedure.
I have read the handbook, the FAQs and Greg Lehey's book 'The complete
FreeBSD'.But I am still quite unsure/confused about some aspects of FreeBSD
philosophy.

1) CURRENT and STABLE

As I read in the FAQS there are two main development branches: STABLE
and CURRENT. At the moment the 4-STABLE is the STABLE-branch and the
5-CURRENT is the current brunch up to the point where it gets STABLE (I
think it is 5.3). Then the CURRENT branch will change to 6?
Is that right.

Then FreeBSD would have two STABLE branches (4 and 5) so what will then
be the difference between them? Or will the 4 branch be ended?
So I am not quiet sure about this terminology.

2) Updating 5.2.1
As far as I understood there are three parts of the system that have to
be upgraded:

kernel
userland
ports

So to do the first two ones I am going to use sysinstall (I use a slow
internet connection so I have to by the CDs with binary collection).
After userland and kernel have been upgraded I need to upgrade my
prts/packages. 
Therefore I copy my binary packages (from the CDs) to 
/usr/ports/packages/All and first run 
portversion 
and then
portupgrade -P

Is this all for now?

3) Get the latest security patches/packages
On the FreeBSD security page I have read about three 
security patches for the 5.2.1 RELAESE. They only affected the kernel.
Running freebsd-update gave me a lot more security hints but for the
packages.
So am I right believing that the security patches only regard kernel
and to get the latest package-updates I have to run freebsd-update?
Or is there another possibility?

Thanx for your patience and help in advance

Oliver
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Re: Another sound question.

2004-10-21 Thread Nikolas Britton
Björn Lindström wrote:
Nikolas Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 

Yea kind, The sound card still has to convert the pcm data from the CD
into music and output it to the speakers though,
   

No, the CD-ROM does that and sends it to the sound card as a plain old
analog audio signal, so the only part of the sound card that comes into
play is the mixer.
 

Actually yea now that I've had time to think about it, the cable that 
goes from the CD-Rom to the sound card is usually a 3 or  4 wire cable, 
like you see in head phones, so based on that fact it has to be analog 
already. What about the ones that have 2-pin digital audio out and what 
about direct digital playback (i.g. ripping)?

The point is still mute though, you have to have at least a 
semi-functional sound card to get the mixer working.

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Re: FreeBSD STABLE, CURRENT and upgrading

2004-10-21 Thread Nikolas Britton
Oliver Fuchs wrote:
Hi All,
I am using FreeBSD since 5.2 RELEASE and I am now running 5.2.1 RELEASE.
I upgraded between the two versions from scratch that means I backuped
the main configuration files and directories (like home), deleted the
old version, installed the new one and reconfigured the whole system.
As I see 5.3 is now coming up so I want to avoid this procedure.
I have read the handbook, the FAQs and Greg Lehey's book 'The complete
FreeBSD'.But I am still quite unsure/confused about some aspects of FreeBSD
philosophy.
1) CURRENT and STABLE
As I read in the FAQS there are two main development branches: STABLE
and CURRENT. At the moment the 4-STABLE is the STABLE-branch and the
5-CURRENT is the current brunch up to the point where it gets STABLE (I
think it is 5.3). Then the CURRENT branch will change to 6?
Is that right.
Right... as of a few days ago 5-CURRENT is now 5-STABLE, CURRENT (HEAD) 
is now 6.

Then FreeBSD would have two STABLE branches (4 and 5) so what will then
be the difference between them? Or will the 4 branch be ended?
So I am not quiet sure about this terminology.
The difference? a whole lot of stuff.  Eventually 4.x will be phased 
out in favor of 5.x but we have awial before this happens.

2) Updating 5.2.1
As far as I understood there are three parts of the system that have to
be upgraded:
kernel
userland
ports
So to do the first two ones I am going to use sysinstall (I use a slow
internet connection so I have to by the CDs with binary collection).
After userland and kernel have been upgraded I need to upgrade my
prts/packages. 
Therefore I copy my binary packages (from the CDs) to 
/usr/ports/packages/All and first run 
portversion 
and then
portupgrade -P

Is this all for now?
3) Get the latest security patches/packages
On the FreeBSD security page I have read about three 
security patches for the 5.2.1 RELAESE. They only affected the kernel.
Running freebsd-update gave me a lot more security hints but for the
packages.
So am I right believing that the security patches only regard kernel
and to get the latest package-updates I have to run freebsd-update?
Or is there another possibility?

Thanx for your patience and help in advance
Oliver
 


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RE: APC UPS question

2004-10-21 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
I have a backups 280 and there is no serial port on it.  Are you
sure your looking at the right thing?  In any case a 280 is barely
enough to keep a PC powered much less a PC and monitor.  I use mine
for my DSL modem and DSL router.

There's lots of SmartUPS 450 UPSs on Ebay.  Find one that the seller
isn't claiming that he has 'refurbished' with new batteries.  Buy it
and when it arrives just buy new batteries from any electrical store
and give them your old ones.  (since it's going to be a given that
the batteries will be toasted no matter what the seller claims)

APS themselves also sells refurbs off their website.

Ted

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 Subject: APC UPS question


 I'm in the market for a UPS that works with FreeBSD. Does anyone
 know if the
 APC Back-UPS Pro 280VA Just Works with FreeBSD 4-STABLE and
 apcupsd? As far
 as I can tell apcupsd support for usb on FreeBSD is not reliable,
 but this
 one's serial and affordable but I'd like to know if it works before I buy.

 Thanks.
 --
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Re: APC UPS question

2004-10-21 Thread Nikolas Britton
http://buy.apc.com/commerce/storefronts/factoryoutlet/default.asp
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
I have a backups 280 and there is no serial port on it.  Are you
sure your looking at the right thing?  In any case a 280 is barely
enough to keep a PC powered much less a PC and monitor.  I use mine
for my DSL modem and DSL router.
There's lots of SmartUPS 450 UPSs on Ebay.  Find one that the seller
isn't claiming that he has 'refurbished' with new batteries.  Buy it
and when it arrives just buy new batteries from any electrical store
and give them your old ones.  (since it's going to be a given that
the batteries will be toasted no matter what the seller claims)
APS themselves also sells refurbs off their website.
Ted
 

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: APC UPS question
I'm in the market for a UPS that works with FreeBSD. Does anyone
know if the
APC Back-UPS Pro 280VA Just Works with FreeBSD 4-STABLE and
apcupsd? As far
as I can tell apcupsd support for usb on FreeBSD is not reliable,
but this
one's serial and affordable but I'd like to know if it works before I buy.
Thanks.
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Re: ifconfig alias: File Exists

2004-10-21 Thread Chris Howells
On Tuesday 19 October 2004 20:50, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
 Is that new?  You are right, that fixed it, but didn't think I had to do
 that before :(

Well your the output from ifconfig fxp0 shows that the other aliases on the 
same subnet has a 200.46.204.0 have the netmask set has 0xff (e.g 
255.255.255.255), so I wonder how you managed to add them otherwise...

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Re: Two faced FreeBSD - or is that two headed?

2004-10-21 Thread Frank Laszlo
Kevin Glick wrote:
Say bye bye to DRI/GLX if you decide to go multi-head. It 
wont work, thats the downside I suppose, otherwise its great.
 

I beg to differ, it works fine.  I used a GeForce MX440, with
dual VGA outputs to two 21 monitors, and ran many GL apps
across both monitors.  Quake 3 at 3200x1200 is pretty cool.
Kevin Glick
ITS Manager
Sterling Business Forms
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Maybe it was only an issue when using multiple video cards, I havent had 
a chance to try a dual-head card myself.

Regards,
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Rid of those Windows Desktops!

2004-10-21 Thread Brian
So

I've been planning this for sometime and finally have the time to do it.

We have various machines in the home no real fruity hardware, everything
seems to supported by all current versions of FreeBSD 4.9,4.10 5.2.1 etc

I've used FreeBSD for a number of years but mostly in the work place as
Routers/Firewalls Webservers and file servers etc.

I've never really put a lot of time into turning FreeBSD into a solid work
station which I'm sure it's more than able to be.

For the most part all the workstations will be used for the usuall,
web,email, irc and local development.

Cutting the long story short for people who use FreeBSD as a desktop
currently, what version is recommended at the moment for such a task.

Most of the boxes have fairly good specs, 1.9GHZ plenty of hdd space and
lots of RAM.

Can people recommend some nice window managers, email clients etc ?

Or point to some documentation on building a secure stable desktop
enviroment.

I am doing my own searches too, I just like to hear from current users.

Cheers

Brian

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Re: Rid of those Windows Desktops!

2004-10-21 Thread terry tyson
On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 14:07:29 +0100, Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip 
 Can people recommend some nice window managers, email clients etc ?

I use 4.10 with Blackbox on my laptop. I installed the libraries for
both Gnome and KDE so I can use some of their apps. I like Evolution
as an Outlook clone but am using my gmail more and more. I switched to
Gnumeric and Abiword from their Open Office counterparts because they
seem to start up faster and have all the features I need. Aterm starts
up alot faster than gnome term but doesn't have the cut-n-paste
feature wich I never realy need anyway.

These are just some of my personal preferences. They are working well for me.
-- 
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RE: Rid of those Windows Desktops!

2004-10-21 Thread Michael Clark
 -Original Message-
 From: Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 8:07 AM
 To: 'FreeBSD Questions'
 Subject: Rid of those Windows Desktops!
 
 
 So
 
 I've been planning this for sometime and finally have the 
 time to do it.
 
 We have various machines in the home no real fruity hardware, 
 everything
 seems to supported by all current versions of FreeBSD 
 4.9,4.10 5.2.1 etc
 
 I've used FreeBSD for a number of years but mostly in the 
 work place as
 Routers/Firewalls Webservers and file servers etc.
 
 I've never really put a lot of time into turning FreeBSD into 
 a solid work
 station which I'm sure it's more than able to be.
 
 For the most part all the workstations will be used for the usuall,
 web,email, irc and local development.
 
 Cutting the long story short for people who use FreeBSD as a desktop
 currently, what version is recommended at the moment for such a task.

Considering 5.3 is going to be stable soon, and the 4.x-5.x upgrade
is not recommended, I would install the 5.3 beta.  I have a good
desktop running on it at the moment and I didn't have to do any thing 
unusual to set it up.
 
 Most of the boxes have fairly good specs, 1.9GHZ plenty of 
 hdd space and
 lots of RAM.
 
 Can people recommend some nice window managers, email clients etc ?

I Have tried a lot of different gui programs and I seem to like these the
most:
IceWM, Evolution(thunderbird works well too), Mozilla Firefox, XChat2 or
IRSSI

 
 Or point to some documentation on building a secure stable desktop
 enviroment.
 
 I am doing my own searches too, I just like to hear from 
 current users.
 
 Cheers
 
 Brian
 
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Re: Rid of those Windows Desktops!

2004-10-21 Thread Henry Miller


On 10/21/2004 at 14:07 Brian wrote:
I've been planning this for sometime and finally have the time to do
it.

We have various machines in the home no real fruity hardware,
everything
seems to supported by all current versions of FreeBSD 4.9,4.10 5.2.1
etc

I've used FreeBSD for a number of years but mostly in the work place
as
Routers/Firewalls Webservers and file servers etc.

I've never really put a lot of time into turning FreeBSD into a solid
work
station which I'm sure it's more than able to be.

For the most part all the workstations will be used for the usuall,
web,email, irc and local development.

Cutting the long story short for people who use FreeBSD as a desktop
currently, what version is recommended at the moment for such a task.

Most of the boxes have fairly good specs, 1.9GHZ plenty of hdd space
and
lots of RAM.

Can people recommend some nice window managers, email clients etc ?

Or point to some documentation on building a secure stable desktop
enviroment.

I am doing my own searches too, I just like to hear from current
users.

The FreeBSD handbook is nice.   Don't be afraid to read linux
documentation, most of that applies.  Don't be afraid to try Linux or
netBSD for that matter, they have differences which may make them
better in some cases.  Though I've found FreeBSD nicer than all the
other systems I've tried, that is a personal choice.  

I like KDE.   Many others like it too.   You can get a useable
replacement desktop by just installing all of kde.  Many other people
like Gnome,  I've never used it so I can't say anything about it.  The
KDE guys like to point out the Gnome tries to make you do it their way
while KDE lets you configure everything to work like you want.  I don't
know what the Gnome guys say.   Try both and make your own decisions
(your users can make their own decision if you configure things right)

Unless you have slow machines (you don't) or are used to something
else, start with gnome or kde.   You can mix and match the two to some
extent.   Either alone will do everything you want.  There are better
programs for some things, but for the most part the best desktop apps
are part of either Gnome or KDE.   (plenty of exceptions to that rule,
but if you call it true you will avoid a lot of junk)



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RE: Rid of those Windows Desktops!

2004-10-21 Thread Pratt, Benjamin E.
As Michael said, I would go with 5.3-RC1 since 5.3 is expected to be
stable in a few days and it uses Xorg which is where future efforts are
going to be put forth. I used to use Fluxbox for a desktop but have
recently switched to XFCE4. It seems to take up less space and is very
easy to work with. I'd almost suggest trying a bunch of different
desktops and finding the one that suits you.

Terry mentioned Aterm, I like the flexibility, but I have gotten
cut-and-paste to work. Just copy by highlighting what you want on the
clipboard, and then paste by clicking my scroll wheel button.

Good luck,

Ben

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian 
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 8:07 AM
To: 'FreeBSD Questions'
Subject: Rid of those Windows Desktops!

So

I've been planning this for sometime and finally have the time to do it.

We have various machines in the home no real fruity hardware, everything
seems to supported by all current versions of FreeBSD 4.9,4.10 5.2.1 etc

I've used FreeBSD for a number of years but mostly in the work place as
Routers/Firewalls Webservers and file servers etc.

I've never really put a lot of time into turning FreeBSD into a solid
work
station which I'm sure it's more than able to be.

For the most part all the workstations will be used for the usuall,
web,email, irc and local development.

Cutting the long story short for people who use FreeBSD as a desktop
currently, what version is recommended at the moment for such a task.

Most of the boxes have fairly good specs, 1.9GHZ plenty of hdd space and
lots of RAM.

Can people recommend some nice window managers, email clients etc ?

Or point to some documentation on building a secure stable desktop
enviroment.

I am doing my own searches too, I just like to hear from current users.

Cheers

Brian

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Aterm cut-and-paste was Re: Rid of those Windows Desktops!

2004-10-21 Thread terry tyson
On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 08:46:48 -0500, Pratt, Benjamin E.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip 
 Terry mentioned Aterm, I like the flexibility, but I have gotten
 cut-and-paste to work. Just copy by highlighting what you want on the
 clipboard, and then paste by clicking my scroll wheel button.

Cool, how did you get it to work? Is it only available with 5.3?
-- 
Terry
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GRE tunnel problem om FreeBSD 5.2.1

2004-10-21 Thread Erik Mossberg
Hello,
   I have a weird problem with a GRE tunnel, the setup is as follows;
   gre0: flags=b051UP,POINTOPOINT,RUNNING,LINK0,LINK1,MULTICAST
mtu
   1476
   tunnel inet 213.67.20.137 -- 194.145.248.113
   inet 194.145.248.138 -- 194.145.248.137 netmask 0xfffc
   And I've tried both w/ and w/o the link1 option mentioned in the man
   page for gre.

netstat -rn -f inet:
   DestinationGatewayFlagsRefs  Use  Netif
   Expire
   default213.67.20.1UGS17 19250541rl1
   127.0.0.1  127.0.0.1  UH  1 1802lo0
   192.168.0  link#1 UC  00rl0
   192.168.0.54   00:04:75:c8:18:d8  UHLW2  5683090rl0
   608
   192.168.0.55   link#1 UHLW2  140rl0
   192.168.0.91   00:0d:54:9a:d2:d1  UHLW013538rl0
   1039
   192.168.0.95   00:0d:88:81:fd:98  UHLW0   766395
   rl0  5
   192.168.5.2192.168.5.1UH  0   12   gif2
   194.145.248.137194.145.248.138UH  0 1177   gre0
   213.67.20  link#2 UC  00rl1
   213.67.20.100:10:67:00:c4:39  UHLW10rl1
   234
   213.67.20.108  00:10:67:00:c4:39  UHLW0   12rl1
   822
   213.67.20.137  127.0.0.1  UGHS0  136lo0

   when I try to ping 194.195.248.137 I have a 95% packet loss, but when
   pinging from remote to 194.145.248.138 works just fine with no packet
   loss.

   tcpdump -eni rl1 shows this:
   22:05:55.148354 0:10:a7:13:bf:58 0:10:67:0:c4:39 0800 122:
   213.67.20.137  194.145.248.113: gre (frag 49403:[EMAIL PROTECTED])
   22:05:56.158351 0:10:a7:13:bf:58 0:10:67:0:c4:39 0800 122:
   213.67.20.137  194.145.248.113: gre (frag 49410:[EMAIL PROTECTED])

   Sometimes the packet 1 or 2 packets goes through and gets a reply
   though.

   I use:
   FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE-p5 #3: Sun Apr 18 22:25:17 CEST 2004
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/merltock  i386

   When google-ing for this problem I found this:
   http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2004-February/02039
   4.html

   Which seems to be the same problem, can the bug have been brought back
   afterwards?
   I hope I didn't miss any info..

I will try upgrading to 5.3-RC1, seems to have been alot of fixes
since then, but I'd be glad for any information what might be the
cause of this problem.

Thanks.

   Regards,
   Erik
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Re: Two faced FreeBSD - or is that two headed?

2004-10-21 Thread Vulpes Velox
On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 09:06:38 -0400
Frank Laszlo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Kevin Glick wrote:
 
 Say bye bye to DRI/GLX if you decide to go multi-head. It 
 wont work, thats the downside I suppose, otherwise its great.
   
 
 
 I beg to differ, it works fine.  I used a GeForce MX440, with
 dual VGA outputs to two 21 monitors, and ran many GL apps
 across both monitors.  Quake 3 at 3200x1200 is pretty cool.
 
 Kevin Glick
 ITS Manager
 Sterling Business Forms
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
   
 
 
 Maybe it was only an issue when using multiple video cards, I havent
 had a chance to try a dual-head card myself.

Yeah, it is if one is or is not a nvidia on both 4x/5x...

And if one is a pci on 4x, then most likely there too...
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RE: Aterm cut-and-paste was Re: Rid of those Windows Desktops!

2004-10-21 Thread Pratt, Benjamin E.
I was searching for a way to cut-and-paste but couldn't find any
documentation on how to do it with Aterm. I think I got frustrated and
just started clicking and when I hit the scroll button it worked!! The
only changes I've made are /etc/X11/xorg.conf changes to get my Z-axis
button working:

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Mouse0
Driver  mouse
Option  Protocol auto
Option  Device /dev/sysmouse
Option  ZAxisMapping 4 5
EndSection

I can't tell you if it's only a 5.3 or an Xorg thing or something else
but I have used it on two different machines running 5.3-BETA6 or newer.
I don't have an older version of FreeBSD running so I can't try it
anywhere else, I would be interested to know though.

Ben

-Original Message-
From: terry tyson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 9:07 AM
To: Pratt, Benjamin E.
Cc: Brian; FreeBSD Questions
Subject: Aterm cut-and-paste was Re: Rid of those Windows Desktops!

On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 08:46:48 -0500, Pratt, Benjamin E.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip 
 Terry mentioned Aterm, I like the flexibility, but I have gotten
 cut-and-paste to work. Just copy by highlighting what you want on the
 clipboard, and then paste by clicking my scroll wheel button.

Cool, how did you get it to work? Is it only available with 5.3?
-- 
Terry
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Re: Rid of those Windows Desktops!

2004-10-21 Thread Vulpes Velox
On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 14:07:29 +0100
Brian  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

snip

Cool :)

 Can people recommend some nice window managers, email clients etc ?

aterm/mlterm
sylpheed-claws
fluxbox
xemacs
xchat2
firefox
avidemux2
mplayer
dfm

If you don't like fluxbox, start trying window managers till you find
one you like. I would suggest staying away from KDE/Gnome due to a lot
of limiting factors in using either as a desktop. Those two are
common, but there are much better out there. I would suggest you find
ports you like and roll your own desktop solution. If you really don't
want to go through all that time messing with it all, XFCE offers a
better than average prerolled desktop solution, still not that well
put together in some aspects.

For security, the handbook is nice :)
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re: APC UPS question

2004-10-21 Thread John Koepke
I have purchased a few APC Ups's from a vendor on Ebay.  Wonderful to
work with.  a few weeks ago the UPS I purchased about 1 and a half
years ago had a electrical problem and the ups failed.  He sent me
another unit and it arrived in just a few days.  I Paid $179 for a APC
Smart 1400 RM UPS.  I currently have 3 servers attached to it with my
various other routers and it will run for about 20 or 30 minutes.
With only 1 server it will run for almost 90 minutes or so.   He sends
out NEW batteries with the unit's...

http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQgotopageZ1QQsassZupspowerQQsosortorderZ1QQsosortpropertyZ1

already i see he has a few Net UPS 650's for $79 or a Smart UPS 700 for $100




On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 23:05:32 -0700, Matt Navarre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm in the market for a UPS that works with FreeBSD. Does anyone know if the
 APC Back-UPS Pro 280VA Just Works with FreeBSD 4-STABLE and apcupsd? As far
 as I can tell apcupsd support for usb on FreeBSD is not reliable, but this
 one's serial and affordable but I'd like to know if it works before I buy.

 Thanks.
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ciss and SmartArray 5300, performance expectations?

2004-10-21 Thread Daniel Eriksson

Hi! I have been offered to buy a Compaq SmartArray 5300 (not sure exactly
what version, I think it's the 5302/64) and some discs (14 x 36GB) that is
no longer being used after an upgrade. I'm not getting it for free, so I'm
only interested if it actually provides decent performance.

What is the word on this controller and the support for it in FreeBSD
5.3/6.0? I understand it is supported through the ciss driver, but I have
been unable to find any recent detailed discussions on how well this driver
works. I did find a discussion about the lack of support for TCQ from 2002,
but that's about it as far as detailed discussions go.

Also, can I expect the 5300 to play nice with my non-Compaq server? It uses
a Tyan Tiger MPX motherboard so it has 64bit/66MHz PCI, but I'm worried that
maybe the card wants to live in a Compaq Proliant machine and won't work
properly in my server (with regards to building arrays from BIOS and similar
tasks). How about firmware upgrades of the card and/or the discs? Can that
be done without a Proliant server?

I would appreciate any information!

/Daniel Eriksson


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Re: Aterm cut-and-paste was Re: Rid of those Windows Desktops!

2004-10-21 Thread terry tyson
On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 09:16:27 -0500, Pratt, Benjamin E.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I was searching for a way to cut-and-paste but couldn't find any
 documentation on how to do it with Aterm. I think I got frustrated and
 just started clicking and when I hit the scroll button it worked!! The
 only changes I've made are /etc/X11/xorg.conf changes to get my Z-axis
 button working:
snip

I'm using a laptop but I do have a wheel mouse I can plug in. I'll
tinker with it some tonight with both the laptop mouse pad and the
wheel mouse and see what I come up with. I'll let you know how it
goes.
-- 
Terry
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RE: APC UPS question

2004-10-21 Thread Robert Huff

Ted Mittelstaedt writes:

  I have a backups 280 and there is no serial port on it.  Are you
  sure your looking at the right thing?

I believe they have the BackUPS _Pro_ 280, the larger brothers
(420 and 650) of which are sitting two feet behind me.  Both have
serial ports only.  (They are 5+ years old.)


Robert Huff



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Re: mac os X

2004-10-21 Thread Lucas Holt
Is the Darwin project part of the FreeBSD group such as FreeBSD for 
PPC or
is now a separate entity?

Can the code from Darwin be used back in FreeBSD?
I can't answer all of your questions, but I can field this part.  
OpenDarwin is an open source project spun off by apple to allow further 
development of the Darwin core of Mac OS X.  Another words, Darwin is 
the UNIX underlying part of OS X.  Its a different operating system.  
Apple uses code from FreeBSD, but its much different.  In fact, parts 
of the darwin kernel are written in C++ whereas the FreeBSD kernel is 
written in C (at least everything i've looked at so far).  Apple does 
not use a FreeBSD kernel, but rather a hacked up kernel from their next 
acquisition that they injected with newer NetBSD/FreeBSD code.  (it 
contained BSD code before, they simply updated it)  Parts of Darwin are 
structured like a *BSD and other parts follow the methodologies of a 
Mach kernel design (basically object oriented, using messages).

The biggest thing apple uses from FreeBSD is most of the userland 
utilities.  Commands like ps, kill, bsdmake, etc.  (apple defaults to 
gnu make now, but bsdmake is still there)

Some of the code can be used from Darwin under the apple open source 
license.  For example, the HFS+ file system support code.

Lucas Holt
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FoolishGames.com  (Jewel Fan Site)
JustJournal.com (Free blogging)
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Re: Aterm cut-and-paste was Re: Rid of those Windows Desktops!

2004-10-21 Thread Josh Hansen
Pratt, Benjamin E. wrote:
I was searching for a way to cut-and-paste but couldn't find any
documentation on how to do it with Aterm. I think I got frustrated and
just started clicking and when I hit the scroll button it worked!! The
only changes I've made are /etc/X11/xorg.conf changes to get my Z-axis
button working:
Section InputDevice
   Identifier  Mouse0
   Driver  mouse
   Option  Protocol auto
   Option  Device /dev/sysmouse
   Option  ZAxisMapping 4 5
EndSection
I can't tell you if it's only a 5.3 or an Xorg thing or something else
but I have used it on two different machines running 5.3-BETA6 or newer.
I don't have an older version of FreeBSD running so I can't try it
anywhere else, I would be interested to know though.
Ben
 

You can copy and paste from any terminal or other application in X by 
highlighting text with the mouse, and then clicking with the wheel to 
paste. 

You can also copy and paste the Microsoft way, with Control-C/Control-V.
One thing to keep in mind is that anything that you actually copy by 
Edit - copy, Control-C, right click - copy, etc will overwrite 
anything you simply highlight.  It's like having two separate 
clipboards.  One from actually copying, one from highlighting.
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OT: date command for pflogsumm.pl Script - undefined variable

2004-10-21 Thread Danny
I am trying to get this script to run:

#
day=`/bin/date +%m-%d-%Y`
#
/usr/sbin/pflogsumm.pl -i -mailq --smtpd_stats --problems_first
--iso_date_time -d yesterday /home/user/maillog 
/var/log/MX1-PostfixDailyReport.${day}
#
gzip -c /var/log/MX1-PostfixDailyReport.${day} | uuencode
MX1-PostfixDailyReport.${day}.gz | mail -s `hostname` Daily Mail
Report for `LC_CTIME=C date +\%A, %d %B %Y\` root # gzip
/var/log/GW1-PostfixDailyReport.${day}
# 

and I know very little about programming (I am working on this), and I
receive the following error:

mx1# ./pflogsumm.test
day=10-21-2004: Command not found.
day: Undefined variable.
day: Undefined variable.

Any suggestions? I just want this script to run and email me the
output of pflogsumm.pl for my maillogs.

Thank you!

...D
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problems with mouse ps/2 in FreeBSD 5.2

2004-10-21 Thread Lednev K.M.
Hi, all!

I have a problem with the mouse initialisation in FreeBSD 5.2
My mouse is Logitech ps/2.
There are next strings in GENERIC file:
# atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse
device  atkbdc  # AT keyboard controller
device  atkbd   # AT keyboard
device  psm # PS/2 mouse 
And the next strings in /boot/device.hints file:
hint.atkbdc.0.at=isa
hint.atkbdc.0.port=0x060
hint.atkbd.0.at=atkbdc
hint.atkbd.0.irq=1
hint.atkbd.0.flags=0x1
hint.psm.0.at=atkbdc
hint.psm.0.irq=12
After loading process there is no device /dev/psm0 - so there is no
possible any works with mouse :( But in the same time keyboard ps/2 works
successful as device /dev/kbd0 and the same mouse works successful on
the same ps/2 port on another OS (Windows).
Is is right configuration of mouse in Kernel? If so, then
please, can you advise me something in this situation?

Best regards,
Konstantin Lednev  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 80, Issue 35

2004-10-21 Thread Eric S

ok just rebuilt 1.01p4, and i still can't use my arrow keys in forum editor 
boxes. back to the real mozilla. gg firefox

and don't complain about my top-posting cause IT'S TEH ROX
 

Two things.  First, to fix the problem with the arrow keys, make a 
backup of your bookmarks file (and cookie file if you want), nuke the 
default firefox directory under .mozilla, and run firefox again.  
Deleting just the preferences may also work.  After doing this, if you 
deleted the entire directory, you'll need to restore the files that you 
backed up.

Second, when dealing with a forum where you're getting help dealing with 
problems, it's generally best not to lead in with attitude.  It would 
have been easier for me to simply delete the message and keep going, but 
I took the time to post the solution because there might be someone else 
having this problem who is worth answering.  This has nothing to do with 
whether or not you top posted, but rather the attitude displayed.

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Re: Rid of those Windows Desktops!

2004-10-21 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Thu, Oct 21, 2004 at 02:07:29PM +0100, Brian  wrote:
 
 Can people recommend some nice window managers, email clients etc ?

http://www.xwinman.org/

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: Rid of those Windows Desktops!

2004-10-21 Thread doug
On Thu, Oct 21, 2004 at 02:07:29PM +0100, Brian  wrote:
 
 Can people recommend some nice window managers, email clients etc ?
 
I support end-users running both KDE and GNOME.  I personally use either 
WindowMaker or XFCE, depending on my mood :).   Here's my observations:

KDE and GNOME:  

Pro: 
Both would be best for someone coming directly from MS Windows.

Both have high sex-appeal for the great un-washed masses.  I
know it sounds superfluous, but people's impressions are their
realities.  If someone coming off Windows thinks they're getting
a plain-vanilla, featureless environemtn, they won't be as
satisfied.  If it's cool and has lots of bells and whistles,
they *might* have a more favorable impression.

Both have so many included programs, you may not have to install
separate applications.

Con:
Both are a bear to support AND upgrade.  They are huge compiles
from ports and prone to tricky upgrade/compile problems.  

Both have way too many included programs.  Most is not used but
yet you must compile and support them anyway.

If you're going to implement either of these two, I suggest one of the
following methods for builds/updates.

Builds:  dedicate a machine that you can use to for
building/rebuilding troubleshooting the desktop environment.  When
you've got it working, build packages and install them on the
workstations.

XDM:  Even better than having these huge desktop environments
running on many boxes, configure a beefy server to be an X client
and have users run off the the server.  It will simplify many
aspects of user management and you'll only have to deploy once!

Alternative.  I've found a happy medium between the austerity of
WindowMaker and the kitchen-sink effect of KDE/GNOME.  That is, XFCE
with ROX-FILER.  It's light and fast like WM but featureful and
good-looking.  It doesn't bundle in tons of apps that you'll never use.
In fact, if you use Mozilla (Firefox/Thunderbird) for browser/email, 
OpenOffice.org for productivity apps, you've got the majority of the
apps general workers will need.

Final caveat... I support people mostly browsing, emailing, writing
documents, making HTML docs, editing graphics, occassionally
ripping/burning CDs.  Not power users by any stretch.  If your users are
developers or power users, many of the experiences I've tried to convey
many not be applicable.

-- 
Regards,
Doug






 Or point to some documentation on building a secure stable desktop
 enviroment.
 

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Re: OT: date command for pflogsumm.pl Script - undefined variable

2004-10-21 Thread Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P.
Danny wrote:
I am trying to get this script to run:
#
day=`/bin/date +%m-%d-%Y`
#
/usr/sbin/pflogsumm.pl -i -mailq --smtpd_stats --problems_first
--iso_date_time -d yesterday /home/user/maillog 
/var/log/MX1-PostfixDailyReport.${day}
#
gzip -c /var/log/MX1-PostfixDailyReport.${day} | uuencode
MX1-PostfixDailyReport.${day}.gz | mail -s `hostname` Daily Mail
Report for `LC_CTIME=C date +\%A, %d %B %Y\` root # gzip
/var/log/GW1-PostfixDailyReport.${day}
# 

and I know very little about programming (I am working on this), and I
receive the following error:
mx1# ./pflogsumm.test
day=10-21-2004: Command not found.
day: Undefined variable.
day: Undefined variable.
Any suggestions? I just want this script to run and email me the
output of pflogsumm.pl for my maillogs.
Thank you!
...D
Which shell are you using?
Kevin Kinsey
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RE: Java under Opera 7.54?

2004-10-21 Thread Kevin Glick


 FreeBSD 5.2.1, Opera 7.54, and I did try pointing Opera to my
 existing Java path, /usr/local/linux-sun-jdk1.4.2/jre/lib/i386/

I'm not sure that the FreeBSD version of Opera will work with the
Linux version of the jre (don't hold me to that).  But, since you
have the Linux jre installed, that works with what I was going to
suggest anyway.

I've been using Opera exclusively for a couple years under FreeBSD,
and prefer it to all other browsers.  With that said, I've had more
success running the linux-opera port.  With it and the Linux versions
of java, flash and Acroread, it's the best I've found.  I've never
gotten pdf or flash support working under the FreeBSD native version,
but the Linux version with the Linux counterparts has worked perfectly.

Just another option for you.


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Syslog Server - splitting log info from client machines

2004-10-21 Thread Odhiambo Washington

A quick question:

On the client machine, I have:

*.* @loghost


Then on loghost, I want to split logs coming from the client machine
into different files. I want separate log file for imapd, pop3d, etc.

How do I do this with stock syslogd?

Please don't suggest syslog-NG ;) Leave it out for now.




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Console and dead keys

2004-10-21 Thread Kim Norgaard
Ohoy there,

I'm wondering how to make 'dead keys' work with freebsd console.

The following related (I think) settings are currently used:
rc.conf:
keymap=danish.iso
font8x16=iso-8x16

.bash_profile:
bind 'set meta-flag on'
bind 'set output-meta on'
bind 'set convert-meta off'

Any ideas?

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RE: Aterm cut-and-paste was Re: Rid of those Windows Desktops!

2004-10-21 Thread Pratt, Benjamin E.
I just tried using CTRL-C to copy and CTRL-V to paste but that didn't
work. I know I've used those commands to copy and paste in other
applications (Firefox, etc.) but they don't work for me in Aterm or
XFTerm4 (the terminals available to me in XFCE4.

Highlighting and scroll clicking does work in the terminals and Firefox
so it is the more all-around solution for me.

The two separate clipboards is cool though. One from CTRL-C and a second
from highlighted text.

Ben

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Subject: Re: Aterm cut-and-paste was Re: Rid of those Windows Desktops!

Pratt, Benjamin E. wrote:

I was searching for a way to cut-and-paste but couldn't find any
documentation on how to do it with Aterm. I think I got frustrated and
just started clicking and when I hit the scroll button it worked!! The
only changes I've made are /etc/X11/xorg.conf changes to get my Z-axis
button working:

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Mouse0
Driver  mouse
Option  Protocol auto
Option  Device /dev/sysmouse
Option  ZAxisMapping 4 5
EndSection

I can't tell you if it's only a 5.3 or an Xorg thing or something else
but I have used it on two different machines running 5.3-BETA6 or
newer.
I don't have an older version of FreeBSD running so I can't try it
anywhere else, I would be interested to know though.

Ben
  

You can copy and paste from any terminal or other application in X by 
highlighting text with the mouse, and then clicking with the wheel to 
paste. 

You can also copy and paste the Microsoft way, with Control-C/Control-V.

One thing to keep in mind is that anything that you actually copy by 
Edit - copy, Control-C, right click - copy, etc will overwrite 
anything you simply highlight.  It's like having two separate 
clipboards.  One from actually copying, one from highlighting.
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Re: Rid of those Windows Desktops!

2004-10-21 Thread Eric Kjeldergaard
 I've never really put a lot of time into turning FreeBSD into a solid work
 station which I'm sure it's more than able to be.

certainly the best I've used on the desktop

 For the most part all the workstations will be used for the usuall,
 web,email, irc and local development.

Noted, I'll reply regarding these specifically.
 
 Cutting the long story short for people who use FreeBSD as a desktop
 currently, what version is recommended at the moment for such a task.

Almost assuredly 5.3 woudl be the way to go.  Someone else mentioned
this earlier.  It's the version that will allow you to easily upgrade
from stable version to stable version.
 
 Most of the boxes have fairly good specs, 1.9GHZ plenty of hdd space and
 lots of RAM.
 
 Can people recommend some nice window managers, email clients etc ?

Of course.  I can at least tell you what I have and haven't tried/used.
Web: I use konqueror for most of my browsing, but understand that I'm
very much in the minority when I do so.  Further gmail is not
supported in it.  Firefox is the only other browser that I use
currently in FreeBSd.  I've used Opera and Galeon/Skipstone without
any real hatred.
Email: Because I don't try to deviate too much from the kde desktop
currently, (tracking development) I've been using kmail.  It has a few
features missing and one of them specifically (delete only deleted
messages from server) does make me use thunderbird sometimes.  I've
not tried evolution, although I hear only good things about it.
IRC:  I recommend no client more heartily than irssi.  IMHO, irc isn't
something that can be easily (or at least hasn't been as I've seen it)
graphicalised.  I used XChat for a while, but when I used it it was
relatively unstable.  Also, being able to use irssi in conjunction
with screen makes IRC much easier to keep logs.
Local Dev:  This depends heavily on what type of development you are
doing.  vim/kvim and gcc/g++ is my choice environment for C and C++
programming.  It's not a full-flavoured environment, but I find
nothing that I can't do with those tools.  If you do Java programming,
I recommend giving netbeans a try.  If you are trying to do local
graphical applications, kDevelop isn't so bad.

My usual choice of environment on beefy systems (= 1.0 ghz 686's) I
tend to use KDE.  I like the configurability and it is more full
featured than I'd ever need.  A /lot/ of people like to use something
substantially lighter (RAM usage and login time for reasons).  One of
the solutions I've found that is very much acceptable to me is a
combination of OpenBox and Kicker (from kde).  Gives me a
full-featured bar and system tray coupled with a VERY light window
manager.  I would think the best possible suggestion as you embark is
to try a bunch.  Fluxbox, Blackbox, Openbox, Gnome, XFCE4, KDE, IceWM,
and more.  It never hurts to look at alternatives.  I hope this helps.

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RE: Rid of those Windows Desktops!

2004-10-21 Thread Brian
 
Snip
Pro: 
Both would be best for someone coming directly from MS
Windows.

Both have high sex-appeal for the great un-washed masses.  I
know it sounds superfluous, but people's impressions are
their
realities.  If someone coming off Windows thinks they're
getting
a plain-vanilla, featureless environemtn, they won't be as
satisfied.  If it's cool and has lots of bells and
whistles,
they *might* have a more favorable impression.

Both have so many included programs, you may not have to
install
separate applications.

Con:
Both are a bear to support AND upgrade.  They are huge
compiles
from ports and prone to tricky upgrade/compile problems.  

Both have way too many included programs.  Most is not used
but
yet you must compile and support them anyway.

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Regards,
Doug

Snip

Thanks for all the advice so far, I guess I best clear somethings up.


This is a project for the home, to turn all the 2k boxes to FreeBSD
Workstations with some form of GUI.

Personaly I all ready do most of my work from home on a 2k box but ssh'd to
a FreeBSD box in work for mail,irc,lynx etc.

The rest of the famliy have all used FreeBSD without a GUI, eithier
pine,mutt,lynx,irrsi or all of the above at sometime or another and are
fairly comfortable with that.

So even tho most will be coming from a Windows background they're very
comfortable all ready in a UNIX/BSD enviroment. I just want to to take 2k
out of all the machines

And replace them with nice FreeBSD desktops,

XFCE and some of the other applications mentioned all ready seem to be
perfect for this job, xchat firefox etc

Thanks for all the comments please keep them coming 

Cheers

Brian

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RE: Aterm cut-and-paste was Re: Rid of those Windows Desktops!

2004-10-21 Thread Kevin Glick
 snip
 
 I'm using a laptop but I do have a wheel mouse I can plug in. I'll
 tinker with it some tonight with both the laptop mouse pad and the
 wheel mouse and see what I come up with. I'll let you know how it
 goes.
Look at the chord option for your X config.  Pressing both
buttons at the same time will act as a third button on a 2-button
mouse, and will work as a paste function in X.

For X.org:
Option ChordMiddle
For XFree86:
Option Emulate3Buttons

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Re: APC UPS question

2004-10-21 Thread Matt Navarre
On Thursday 21 October 2004 07:35, Robert Huff wrote:
 Ted Mittelstaedt writes:
   I have a backups 280 and there is no serial port on it.  Are you
   sure your looking at the right thing?

  I believe they have the BackUPS _Pro_ 280, the larger brothers
 (420 and 650) of which are sitting two feet behind me.  Both have
 serial ports only.  (They are 5+ years old.)


  Robert Huff

Does the 650 work well with FreeBSD? I can get a refurb 650 from APC for the 
same price as I can find the 280.

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RE: APC UPS question

2004-10-21 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
they all use the same protocol, the difference is between the smart
ups and the backups. all smartups use one protocol all backups
use another.

The very newest ones with usb and such might have changed this, I
don't know.

incidentally with the smartups you can query the ups for the
amount of runtime left so you know how much life is left in the
battery, the ups self-tests this periodically and you can send
a command to it to do this.  Very useful.

Ted

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 Subject: Re: APC UPS question
 
 
 On Thursday 21 October 2004 07:35, Robert Huff wrote:
  Ted Mittelstaedt writes:
I have a backups 280 and there is no serial port on it.  Are you
sure your looking at the right thing?
 
   I believe they have the BackUPS _Pro_ 280, the larger brothers
  (420 and 650) of which are sitting two feet behind me.  Both have
  serial ports only.  (They are 5+ years old.)
 
 
   Robert Huff
 
 Does the 650 work well with FreeBSD? I can get a refurb 650 from 
 APC for the 
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Re: problems with mouse ps/2 in FreeBSD 5.2

2004-10-21 Thread Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P.
Lednev K.M. wrote:
Hi, all!
I have a problem with the mouse initialisation in FreeBSD 5.2
My mouse is Logitech ps/2.
There are next strings in GENERIC file:
# atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse
device  atkbdc  # AT keyboard controller
device  atkbd   # AT keyboard
device  psm # PS/2 mouse 
And the next strings in /boot/device.hints file:
hint.atkbdc.0.at=isa
hint.atkbdc.0.port=0x060
hint.atkbd.0.at=atkbdc
hint.atkbd.0.irq=1
hint.atkbd.0.flags=0x1
hint.psm.0.at=atkbdc
hint.psm.0.irq=12
After loading process there is no device /dev/psm0 - so there is no
possible any works with mouse :( But in the same time keyboard ps/2 works
successful as device /dev/kbd0 and the same mouse works successful on
the same ps/2 port on another OS (Windows).
Is is right configuration of mouse in Kernel? If so, then
please, can you advise me something in this situation?
 

Could we see the output of dmesg?
KDK
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Re: Rid of those Windows Desktops!

2004-10-21 Thread Benjamin Walkenhorst
Hello,
Brian wrote:
So
I've been planning this for sometime and finally have the time to do it.
 

Great! =)
[...]
I've never really put a lot of time into turning FreeBSD into a solid work
station which I'm sure it's more than able to be.
 

Yes, it is. =) I've been using FreeBSD 5.x on my desktop machine for 
about a year now - I had just one really frustrating experience when my 
box would get quite unstable, but it turned out to be hardware-related. 
Otherwise it's been great. =)
Since you already have experience with FreeBSD, migration won't be too 
painful, I think.
I hope you'll enjoy FreeBSD as much as I do. =)

For the most part all the workstations will be used for the usuall,
web,email, irc and local development.
 

Unless you want to do development in exotic languages, FreeBSD is 
perfectly suitable for that.
Firefox/Thunderbird/Mozilla Suite are available for FreeBSD as well as 
lots of other applications.
Same goes for IRC and development...

BTW, FreeBSD is also suitable for e.g. watching TV or DVDs as well as 
lots of digital formats for video and music.
In fact, it detected my on-board soundchip out of the box, whereas both 
Windows 2000 and 2003 didn't.

Cutting the long story short for people who use FreeBSD as a desktop
currently, what version is recommended at the moment for such a task.
 

Version of FreeBSD? Well, technically the production-release is still 
4.x, but as I said, I've been using FreeBSD 5.x on my desktop (AthlonXP 
2400+, now a dual AthlonMP 2400+) for about a year now. Besides the 
hardware-issues (my power-supply  would just fail every now and then), I 
didn't have any trouble.
Also, the release of 5.3 is imminent, which will be the first production 
release to have a 5 in front of the dot. =)
So I recommend version 5. As of now, I'm using 5.3-BETA7, and it works 
great.

Most of the boxes have fairly good specs, 1.9GHZ plenty of hdd space and
lots of RAM.
 

What exactly is lots of RAM? I think you should have 128MB for a 
graphical environment, preferrably more if you want to run lots of 
memory-eaters (like KDE). I've been happy for a long time with 256MB, 
now I have 512 and am even more happy. =)
But 128 to 256 should be sufficient under most conditions. If they are 
at 1.9GHz, chances are rather good they have more than enough RAM. =)
As for CPU speed, a Pentium III 450 can make for a decent desktop 
machine, so you've got nothing to fear, here...

Can people recommend some nice window managers, email clients etc ?
 

Window Manager: I use Window Maker. I've been using it for some years 
now, and I love it. It's easy to use, doesn't waste my ressources and it 
has everything I need, namely virtual desktops. Plus, it has a sidebar 
that can be extended with useful DockApps.

Email/Web: I use Firefox and Thunderbird happily. Again, they are quite 
easy to use, not too ressource-hungry and got everything I need. 
Thunderbird has excellent junk-mail detection, Firefox has an extension 
called AdBlock which does a great job at blocking ads.

For IRC i use xchat, though I gotta admit I just chose the first 
irc-client that came to mind.

For programming I like gvim, since it's... well, vi plus some useful 
enhancements. Emacs I just use for HTML... (Probably Emacs is great, but 
I don't know any lisp and haven't had much success at learning it)

Or point to some documentation on building a secure stable desktop
enviroment.
 

Uh, the handbook? You can install it locally along with FreeBSD. I've 
you've worked with FreeBSD before, you probably know it already.
Especially, you might want to look at 
http://www.de.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/desktop.html

Also, if you are willing to spend some money, The Complete FreeBSD by 
Greg Lehey is really great. It's both a good beginner's introduction 
into various tasks and a useful reference (it covers version 5.x). 
Absolute BSD by Michael Lucas is said to be good, too, but I don't 
know if it covers 5.x.

Kind regards,
Benjamin
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7520 Chipset support in 4.x

2004-10-21 Thread TM4525
Many of the new MBs from such tiny vendors as Dell and Supermicro 
are based on the 7520, and word is that FreeBSD 4.x doesn't support 
it. Is support forthcoming?
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Re: gtk-sharp build hangs

2004-10-21 Thread Benjamin Walkenhorst
Christopher Nehren wrote:
Yes for DotGNU, haven't tried Rotor recently. DotGNU masquerades in the
ports tree under the names pnet*, found under lang/. Rotor masquerades
under the name cli, and is also under lang/.
Thanks,
Benjamin
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RE: Rid of those Windows Desktops!

2004-10-21 Thread Brian
 
Snip
What exactly is lots of RAM? I think you should have 128MB for a graphical
environment, preferrably more if you want to run lots of memory-eaters (like
KDE). I've been happy for a long time with 256MB, now I have 512 and am even
more happy. =) But 128 to 256 should be sufficient under most conditions. If
they are at 1.9GHz, chances are rather good they have more than enough RAM.
=) As for CPU speed, a Pentium III 450 can make for a decent desktop
machine, so you've got nothing to fear, here...

Window Manager: I use Window Maker. I've been using it for some years now,
and I love it. It's easy to use, doesn't waste my ressources and it has
everything I need, namely virtual desktops. Plus, it has a sidebar that can
be extended with useful DockApps.

Email/Web: I use Firefox and Thunderbird happily. Again, they are quite easy
to use, not too ressource-hungry and got everything I need. 
Thunderbird has excellent junk-mail detection, Firefox has an extension
called AdBlock which does a great job at blocking ads.

For IRC i use xchat, though I gotta admit I just chose the first irc-client
that came to mind.

For programming I like gvim, since it's... well, vi plus some useful
enhancements. Emacs I just use for HTML... (Probably Emacs is great, but I
don't know any lisp and haven't had much success at learning it)

Or point to some documentation on building a secure stable desktop 
enviroment.
  


Uh, the handbook? You can install it locally along with FreeBSD. I've you've
worked with FreeBSD before, you probably know it already.
Especially, you might want to look at
http://www.de.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/desktop.html

Also, if you are willing to spend some money, The Complete FreeBSD by Greg
Lehey is really great. It's both a good beginner's introduction into various
tasks and a useful reference (it covers version 5.x). 
Absolute BSD by Michael Lucas is said to be good, too, but I don't know if
it covers 5.x.

Snip

Lots of ram is they all have at least 512mb.

I should take Secure out of there I'm fairly well up on FreeBSD Security
and all boxes are behind a well maintained FreeBSD Router/Firewall.

I have all those books :)

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Re: Syslog Server - splitting log info from client machines

2004-10-21 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2004-10-21 18:29, Odhiambo Washington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 A quick question:

 On the client machine, I have:

 *.*   @loghost

 Then on loghost, I want to split logs coming from the client machine
 into different files. I want separate log file for imapd, pop3d, etc.

 How do I do this with stock syslogd?

Look at the `+hostname' specification in syslog.conf(5).  You can use
something like this:

+host1
*.* /var/log/remote/host1/messages

+host2
*.* /var/log/remote/host2/messages

in your `syslog.conf' file.

Please note that adding this to the end of the syslog.conf file will
not inhibit logging of the same messages to /var/log/messages or any
other matches found earlier.  Thus, this syslog.conf file:

*.* /var/log/messages

+foo
*.* /var/log/remote/foo/messages

Will log the messages from host `foo' both in /var/log/messages *AND*
/var/log/remote/foo/messages.

To make syslogd log the messages from host `foo' only in
/var/log/remote/foo/messages you'd have to use something like this:

-foo
*.* /var/log/messages

+foo
*.* /var/log/remote/foo/messages

Multiple hosts can be specified like this:

-foo,bar
*.* /var/log/messages

+foo
*.* /var/log/remote/foo/messages

+bar
*.* /var/log/remote/bar/messages

Regards,
Giorgos

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Re: Rid of those Windows Desktops!

2004-10-21 Thread Benjamin Walkenhorst
Brian wrote:
Lots of ram is they all have at least 512mb.
 

That *is* enough. =) I didn't have problems at 512mb, so far...
I should take Secure out of there I'm fairly well up on FreeBSD Security
and all boxes are behind a well maintained FreeBSD Router/Firewall.
I have all those books :)
 

I don't have too much experience running servers on FreeBSD (my local 
server/gateway runs NetBSD for historical reasons, so to speak, and I 
like it as well), but if you have experience with FreeBSD and like it, I 
think you'll like it just as much on the desktop.
XFree/X.org can be a little nasty sometimes, but once it works, it 
mostly stays that way.
And since you have prior experience and plenty of good documentation 
available, I think you will have lots of fun. =)

Kind regards,
Benjamin
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Re: Java under Opera 7.54?

2004-10-21 Thread epilogue
On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 08:28:32 -0700
Kevin Glick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 
 I've been using Opera exclusively for a couple years under FreeBSD,
 and prefer it to all other browsers.  With that said, I've had more
 success running the linux-opera port.  With it and the Linux versions
 of java, flash and Acroread, it's the best I've found.

a hearty +1

this said, at http://my.opera.com/forums you will find good archives and
a very friendly and helpful community.  there is even an 'opera for
freebsd' forum which, though a bit quiet compared to the others, is the
perfect place to add your voice, if you're disappointed in native
opera's java performance.

 
 
 Kevin Glick
 ITS Manager
 Sterling Business Forms
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Acard ATP865R UDMA133 controller RAID IDE broken on freebsd 5.2.1-p11

2004-10-21 Thread ftlnx75
Hi,

I have a critical problem with Acard ATP865 UDMA133 Controller Raid IDE.
I can create and mount my array ar0 raid without any problem.
I can also create directories but when I use tar (a smal archive 1,1Mo) my array
is broken immediatly.

I have mount my array like this
# mout -t ufs /dev/ar0s1 /usr/local/w3
# cd /usr/local/w3
# mkdir db # OK
# tar zxvf data.tar.gz # Seems ok but before the end of command I get

ad8 : WARNING no status, reselecting device.
ad8 : error issuing command=ca
ad8 : error issuing DMA command
ar0: 39205MB aTA RAID1 array [4998/255/63] status: DEGRADED subdisks:

And my system freezes and go down kernel panic trap 12.
This controller worked fine on freebsd 5.2.0 and after upgraded to
freebsd-5.2.1-p11, my controleur doesn't work.

How can I solve my problem. And sorry for my bad english
Thanks.
Regards.


# uname -a

FreeBSD tuxy.homelinux.misc 5.2.1-RELEASE-p11 FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE-p11 #2: Tue
Oct 19 21:07:44 CEST 2004
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BSDCORTUX  i386

I joint my dmesg -a output

Copyright (c) 1992-2004 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE-p11 #2: Tue Oct 19 21:07:44 CEST 2004
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BSDCORTUX
Preloaded elf kernel /boot/kernel/kernel at 0xc0918000.
Preloaded elf module /boot/kernel/linux.ko at 0xc09181f4.
MPTable: OEM0 PROD
Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
CPU: Intel Pentium III (733.35-MHz 686-class CPU)
  Origin = GenuineIntel  Id = 0x683  Stepping = 3
  
Features=0x387fbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,PN,MMX,FXSR,SSE
real memory  = 1073676288 (1023 MB)
avail memory = 1033523200 (985 MB)
FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs
 cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID:  0
 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID:  1
ioapic0: Assuming intbase of 0
ioapic0 Version 1.1 irqs 0-23 on motherboard
Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled
npx0: [FAST]
npx0: math processor on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
pcibios: BIOS version 2.10
Using $PIR table, 9 entries at 0xc00fdcf0
pcib0: MPTable Host-PCI bridge at pcibus 0 on motherboard
pci0: PCI bus on pcib0
pcib0: slot 7 INTD routed to irq 9
pcib0: slot 7 INTD routed to irq 9
pcib0: slot 12 INTA routed to irq 10
pcib0: slot 15 INTA routed to irq 11
pcib0: slot 16 INTA routed to irq 10
pcib0: slot 17 INTA routed to irq 9
agp0: VIA 82C691 (Apollo Pro) host to PCI bridge mem 0xd800-0xdbff at device 
0.0 on pci0
pcib1: MPTable PCI-PCI bridge at device 1.0 on pci0
pci1: PCI bus on pcib1
pcib1: slot 0 INTA routed to irq 11
pci1: display, VGA at device 0.0 (no driver attached)
isab0: PCI-ISA bridge at device 7.0 on pci0
isa0: ISA bus on isab0
atapci0: VIA 82C686A UDMA66 controller port 0x9000-0x900f at device 7.1 on pci0
ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0
ata0: [MPSAFE]
ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0
ata1: [MPSAFE]
uhci0: VIA 83C572 USB controller port 0x9400-0x941f irq 9 at device 7.2 on pci0
usb0: VIA 83C572 USB controller on uhci0
usb0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci1: VIA 83C572 USB controller port 0x9800-0x981f irq 9 at device 7.3 on pci0
usb1: VIA 83C572 USB controller on uhci1
usb1: USB revision 1.0
uhub1: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
atapci1: Promise PDC20265 UDMA100 controller port 
0xac00-0xac3f,0xa800-0xa803,0xa400-0xa407,0xa000-0xa003,0x9c00-0x9c07 mem 
0xdf00-0xdf01 irq 10 at device 12.0 on pci0
atapci1: [MPSAFE]
ata2: at 0x9c00 on atapci1
ata2: [MPSAFE]
ata3: at 0xa400 on atapci1
ata3: [MPSAFE]
atapci2: Acard ATP865R UDMA133 controller port 
0xc000-0xc00f,0xbc00-0xbc03,0xb800-0xb807,0xb400-0xb403,0xb000-0xb007 irq 11 at device 
15.0 on pci0
atapci2: [MPSAFE]
ata4: at 0xb000 on atapci2
ata4: [MPSAFE]
ata5: at 0xb800 on atapci2
ata5: [MPSAFE]
xl0: 3Com 3c905-TX Fast Etherlink XL port 0xc400-0xc43f irq 10 at device 16.0 on pci0
xl0: Ethernet address: 00:60:08:ca:1f:80
miibus0: MII bus on xl0
nsphy0: DP83840 10/100 media interface on miibus0
nsphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
pci0: network, ethernet at device 17.0 (no driver attached)
orm0: Option ROMs at iomem 
0xd6000-0xd7fff,0xd4000-0xd5fff,0xd-0xd3fff,0xc-0xcc7ff on isa0
pmtimer0 on isa0
atkbdc0: Keyboard controller (i8042) at port 0x64,0x60 on isa0
atkbd0: AT Keyboard flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0
kbd0 at atkbd0
psm0: PS/2 Mouse irq 12 on atkbdc0
psm0: model IntelliMouse, device ID 3
fdc0: Enhanced floppy controller (i82077, NE72065 or clone) at port 
0x3f7,0x3f0-0x3f5 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0
fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold
fd0: 1440-KB 3.5 drive on fdc0 drive 0
ppc0: Parallel port at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0
ppc0: Generic chipset (EPP/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode
ppbus0: Parallel port bus on ppc0
plip0: PLIP network 

RE: APC UPS question

2004-10-21 Thread Robert Huff

Ted Mittelstaedt writes:

  incidentally with the smartups you can query the ups for the
  amount of runtime left so you know how much life is left in the
  battery, the ups self-tests this periodically and you can send
  a command to it to do this.  Very useful.

That's also true for the BackUPS Pro providing you get the
right cable (I used the -0095A) and the right software (PowerChute
Personal Edition (Windows) or apcupsd (FreeBSD)).


Robert Huff


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Re: APC UPS question

2004-10-21 Thread Robert Huff

Matt Navarre writes:

I believe they have the BackUPS _Pro_ 280, the larger brothers
   (420 and 650) of which are sitting two feet behind me.  Both have
   serial ports only.  (They are 5+ years old.)

  Does the 650 work well with FreeBSD? I can get a refurb 650 from
  APC for the same price as I can find the 280.

It worked well for many years, then died within the 3 months.
It's sitting on my parts shelf in the hope I have an excuse to make
a trip to Rhode Island soon.
(I replaced the battery within the last year, and would like to
get the electronics refurbed.)


Robert Huff







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Re: Swap - Vinum - G_Vinum

2004-10-21 Thread jason
Mark Frasa wrote:
Hello,
I have found this link:
http://www.freebsd.de/archive/de-bsd-questions/de-bsd-questions.200410/0112.html
There is a statement in there:
 

Ab -- wahrscheinlich so -- 5.5-RELEASE wird vinum komplett durch
(ein formatkompatibles) geom-basiertes Vinum-Framework (g_vinum) ersetzt
(vielen Dank an Lukas Ertl, da er sich die Heidenarbeit macht). 
   

For the ones that can't read German: It says that g_vinum probably will be 
introduced in the FreeBSD 5.5-RELEASE.
Can anyone confirm/deny this?
I am currently waiting for the 5.3-RELEASE because someone told me g_vinum should be in there. 
Should it be better, since it is going te be a production server, to put in normal ATA disks and install 
FreeBSD 4.10-RELEASE where vinum does works correct?

Mark.
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The switch has already been made.  It was posted on the mailing list for 
current.
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Re: Aterm cut-and-paste was Re: Rid of those Windows Desktops!

2004-10-21 Thread Frank Laszlo
Pratt, Benjamin E. wrote:
I was searching for a way to cut-and-paste but couldn't find any
documentation on how to do it with Aterm. I think I got frustrated and
just started clicking and when I hit the scroll button it worked!! The
only changes I've made are /etc/X11/xorg.conf changes to get my Z-axis
button working:
Section InputDevice
   Identifier  Mouse0
   Driver  mouse
   Option  Protocol auto
   Option  Device /dev/sysmouse
   Option  ZAxisMapping 4 5
EndSection
I can't tell you if it's only a 5.3 or an Xorg thing or something else
but I have used it on two different machines running 5.3-BETA6 or newer.
I don't have an older version of FreeBSD running so I can't try it
anywhere else, I would be interested to know though.
Ben
 

This has been around for as long as I can remember, since before XFree86 
4.x. Its nothing new.

Regards, 
   Frank
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Re: OT: date command for pflogsumm.pl Script - undefined variable

2004-10-21 Thread Frank Laszlo
Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. wrote:
Danny wrote:
I am trying to get this script to run:
#
day=`/bin/date +%m-%d-%Y`
#
/usr/sbin/pflogsumm.pl -i -mailq --smtpd_stats --problems_first
--iso_date_time -d yesterday /home/user/maillog 
/var/log/MX1-PostfixDailyReport.${day}
#
gzip -c /var/log/MX1-PostfixDailyReport.${day} | uuencode
MX1-PostfixDailyReport.${day}.gz | mail -s `hostname` Daily Mail
Report for `LC_CTIME=C date +\%A, %d %B %Y\` root # gzip
/var/log/GW1-PostfixDailyReport.${day}
#
and I know very little about programming (I am working on this), and I
receive the following error:
mx1# ./pflogsumm.test
day=10-21-2004: Command not found.
day: Undefined variable.
day: Undefined variable.
Any suggestions? I just want this script to run and email me the
output of pflogsumm.pl for my maillogs.
Thank you!
...D
Which shell are you using?
Sounds like *NOT* /bin/sh. try adding:
#!/bin/sh
to the top of the script.
Regards,
   Frank
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Re: OT: date command for pflogsumm.pl Script - undefined variable

2004-10-21 Thread Danny
On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 14:35:07 -0400, Frank Laszlo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sounds like *NOT* /bin/sh. try adding:
 #!/bin/sh
 
 to the top of the script.

Thanks Frank, the script has other incompatibilities with my config,
so I just ended up editing /etc/crontab and added:

 /usr/sbin/pflogsumm.pl /var/log/maillog | /usr/bin/mailx -s
`uname -n` daily mail stats root

This will do the job for now.

...D
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Mailgraph from the ports - now what do I do?

2004-10-21 Thread Danny
Greetings,

After referencing the article here:
http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/onlamp/2004/08/12/mailgraph.html

I decided to just install mailgraph from the FreeBSD ports system.

So, after installing it successfully (well, there were no errors), I
am trying to find the executable mailgraph program:

mx1# find / -name mailgraph
/usr/ports/mail/mailgraph
/var/db/mailgraph

And /var/db/mailgraph is empty.

Any suggestions?

Thank you,

...D
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Re: Parental Controls

2004-10-21 Thread Joe Kraft

Geert Hendrickx wrote:
On Sun, Oct 10, 2004 at 01:42:26AM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Joe Kraft
Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 11:40 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Parental Controls
I believe this road is the way to go, I'm using postfix so if this exact 
solution doesn't work there is certainly a similar one.

Yeah, ok, right.
When you can get postfix to do this, let us know how you did it.
Ted

In postfix's main.cf, set always_bcc = [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It forwards all incoming and outgoing mail to the address specified.  

GH
OK, so what I did is similar to what Geert recommended.  While I was 
looking up always_bcc, I found the sender_bcc_map and receiver_bcc_map, 
using the two of those I can specify which accounts to apply that for 
instead of blindly applying it to the whole site.

After I had that working, being one to not leave well enough alone, I 
set up up a virtual mail address to log these mails and allow us to 
review them and delete them.

For me it meets the overall monitoring requirement, but so burdensome as 
to make e-mail a pain for them.  Thinking this through and speculating a 
bit, I could come up with a solution similar to the milter which puts 
stuff into a logfile by defining a transport that does that in the 
master.cf file.

Thanks guys for pointing me in the right direction.
Joe.
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Re: FireFox crash on Print

2004-10-21 Thread Dan Finn
On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 12:25:23 +0200, Michael L. Hostbaek
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [Post moved to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Warren Liddell (shinjii) writes:
  Since Upgrading FireFox to 1.0 over the last weekend each time i press print
  or goto print something Mozilla either closes itself or re-loads it's
  program.
 
  I can re-create this bug by printing from any URL local or on hte internet.
 
 I am seeing the same problem here.
 
 /mich
 
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same here as well.
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can't upgrade from 5.2-CURRENT (mid summer) to RELENG_5 on i386

2004-10-21 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
Hi
I am trying to upgrade my 5.2-CURRENT from the mid-summer timeframe to  
RELENG_5 on an i386 platform (actually dual opteron running i386).

I did a cvsup early this morning and then try and build my kernel and  
get the following:

# make buildkernel KERNCONF=HOST-SMP
--
 Kernel build for HOST-SMP started on Thu Oct 21 14:08:36 MDT 2004
--
=== HOST-SMP
mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/sys
--
 stage 1: configuring the kernel
--
cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf;   
PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/ 
legacy/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/games:/usr/obj/usr/src/ 
i386/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/ 
games:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin  config  -d  
/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/HOST-SMP  /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/HOST-SMP
Kernel build directory is /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/HOST-SMP
Don't forget to do a ``make depend''

--
 stage 2.1: cleaning up the object tree
--
cd /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/HOST-SMP;  MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj   
MACHINE_ARCH=i386  MACHINE=i386  CPUTYPE=   
GROFF_BIN_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/bin   
GROFF_FONT_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/groff_font   
GROFF_TMAC_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/tmac   
DESTDIR=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386  _SHLIBDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386   
INSTALL=sh /usr/src/tools/install.sh   
PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/ 
legacy/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/games:/usr/obj/usr/src/ 
i386/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/ 
games:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin /usr/obj/usr/src/make.i386/make  
KERNEL=kernel cleandir
rm -f *.o *.so *.So *.ko *.s eddep errs  kernel kernel linterrs  
makelinks tags  vers.c vnode_if.c vnode_if.h majors.c  device_if.c  
bus_if.c linker_if.c eisa_if.c miibus_if.c card_if.c power_if.c  
pci_if.c pcib_if.c usb_if.c isa_if.c agp_if.c acpi_if.c device_if.h  
bus_if.h linker_if.h eisa_if.h miibus_if.h card_if.h power_if.h  
pci_if.h pcib_if.h usb_if.h isa_if.h agp_if.h acpi_if.h  aicasm*  
y.tab.h aic7xxx_seq.h aic7xxx_reg.h aic7xxx_reg_print.c  aic79xx_seq.h  
aic79xx_reg.h aic79xx_reg_print.c miidevs.h  pccarddevs.h usbdevs.h  
linux_genassym.o linux_assym.h
cd /usr/src/sys/modules;  
MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/HOST-SMP/modules  
KMODDIR=/boot/kernel MACHINE=i386 DESTDIR=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386  
KERNBUILDDIR=/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/HOST-SMP  
/usr/obj/usr/src/make.i386/make  cleandir
+for: not found
*** Error code 127

Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules.
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/HOST-SMP.
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/src.
#
I am not sure what is not found.  I don't see it looking for a file  
+for .

Anyone seeing the problem, your input is appreciated.
Thanks
Chad
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Re: problem installing firefox

2004-10-21 Thread trypticon
libXcursor isn't there. should i re-install Xfree86-Libraries?

 Original Message 
From: Lowell Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: problem installing firefox
Date: 07 Oct 2004 10:31:14 -0400

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
   I'm having trouble installing firefox on freebsd-4.10. When i try to install it 
   it gives me this error: 
   
   /usr/libexec/elf/ld: cannot find -lXcursor
   gmake[2]: *** [libgtkxtbin.so] Error 1
   gmake[2]: Leaving Directory '/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla
   /widget/src/gtkxtbin'
   gmake[1]: *** [tier_9] Error 2
   gmake[1]: Leaving Directory`/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla'
   gmake: *** [default] Error 2
   *** Error code 2
   
   any help would be appreciated.
  
  Had you done a build before this? 
  It looks like the problem is in the build part, not the install.
  
  Are your ports up-to-date?  
  There have been some major changes in the port since the release of
  FreeBSD 4.10.
  
  This is my first time installing firefox. I updated my ports yesterday and i tried 
  again, but i still get the error. 
 
 It builds fine for me.
 
 It's looking for libXcursor.so, which is normally installed by the
 XFree86-libraries port into /usr/X11R6/lib (I assume it should be
 installed by the equivalent xorg port if you're using that, but
 XFree86 is the default on 4.10).  Check if you have that.
 
 -- 
 Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area
   http://be-well.ilk.org:8088/~lowell/
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Re: Rid of those Windows Desktops!

2004-10-21 Thread Erik Norgaard
Matthew Seaman wrote:

 http://www.xwinman.org/

Following that link I found XPde. If your Windows users really need to
feel at home, this may be for them.

It is not ported though and looking into the code it seems that it will
be some time before it matures, but they provide linux-binaries.

But as any other Windows-like windows manager, I have the feeling that
it's the same as adding noice to the cd to make it sound like the good
old vinyl. I don't know if they have added the occasional system crash
to make you feel at home :-)

Cheers, Erik

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Re: FireFox crash on Print

2004-10-21 Thread Donald J. O'Neill
On Thursday 21 October 2004 02:48 pm, Dan Finn wrote:

 same here as well.
 ___

Why don't you try a fresh cvsup of your ports tree. Then, upgrade to 
firefox-1.0.1.p_4. I think that's pretty much taken care of the 
problem for anyone who's done that.

Don

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Re: can't upgrade from 5.2-CURRENT (mid summer) to RELENG_5 on i386

2004-10-21 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, Oct 21, 2004 at 02:14:57PM -0600, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote:
 Hi
 
 I am trying to upgrade my 5.2-CURRENT from the mid-summer timeframe to  
 RELENG_5 on an i386 platform (actually dual opteron running i386).
 
 I did a cvsup early this morning and then try and build my kernel and  
 get the following:
 
 # make buildkernel KERNCONF=HOST-SMP

If you follow the directions you're supposed to do a buildworld first.
At this point, please go and read the handbook chapter on updating,
and the /usr/src/UPDATING file, so you don't omit or mis-order any of
the other required steps.

Kris


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Re: Console and dead keys

2004-10-21 Thread Kim Norgaard
Hi,

On Thu, 21 Oct 2004, Kim Norgaard wrote:
 I'm wondering how to make 'dead keys' work with freebsd console.
Problem solved. The keymap danish.iso didn't have accents. I made a
danish.iso.acc.kbd file. Posted a PR width the addition: conf/72978

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Re: can't upgrade from 5.2-CURRENT (mid summer) to RELENG_5 on i386

2004-10-21 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
On Oct 21, 2004, at 2:36 PM, Kris Kennaway wrote:
On Thu, Oct 21, 2004 at 02:14:57PM -0600, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC 
wrote:
Hi
I am trying to upgrade my 5.2-CURRENT from the mid-summer timeframe to
RELENG_5 on an i386 platform (actually dual opteron running i386).
I did a cvsup early this morning and then try and build my kernel and
get the following:
# make buildkernel KERNCONF=HOST-SMP
If you follow the directions you're supposed to do a buildworld first.
I have read the chapter on it but I should probably go review it as you 
imply my memory may not be the best :-)

At this point, please go and read the handbook chapter on updating,
and the /usr/src/UPDATING file
I also perused that
Thanks
Chad
, so you don't omit or mis-order any of
the other required steps.
Kris
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FreeBSD 4.8 and FreeBSD 5.x lower version of 5.x difference

2004-10-21 Thread bridgett hamilton
I need to know the difference between FreeBSD 4.8 and
FreeBSD 5.x lower version of 5.x difference. I am
acquiring Verisign as my Ecommerce who only has an SDK
for 5.x. Need to know the difference between 4.8 and
5.0 so I know whether or not I am going to run into
problems. Also can you tell me if we upgrade to 5.0
will there be any lost of configuration or data?
Please advise. Thank you. 

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Re: FireFox crash on Print

2004-10-21 Thread Dan Finn
[ root @ stewie : ~] : pkg_info |grep -i firefox
firefox-1.0.1.p_4   Web browser based on the browser portion of Mozilla


On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 15:31:52 -0500, Donald J. O'Neill
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 On Thursday 21 October 2004 02:48 pm, Dan Finn wrote:
 
  same here as well.
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 Why don't you try a fresh cvsup of your ports tree. Then, upgrade to
 firefox-1.0.1.p_4. I think that's pretty much taken care of the
 problem for anyone who's done that.
 
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Re: FreeBSD 4.8 and FreeBSD 5.x lower version of 5.x difference

2004-10-21 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, Oct 21, 2004 at 01:39:17PM -0700, bridgett hamilton wrote:
 I need to know the difference between FreeBSD 4.8 and
 FreeBSD 5.x lower version of 5.x difference. I am
 acquiring Verisign as my Ecommerce who only has an SDK
 for 5.x. Need to know the difference between 4.8 and
 5.0 so I know whether or not I am going to run into
 problems. Also can you tell me if we upgrade to 5.0
 will there be any lost of configuration or data?

There are too many differences to mention - you can read the release
notes on the website for lists of major changes.  There's also a
transition guide on the website for migrating from 4.x to 5.3.

Kris


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Re: can't upgrade from 5.2-CURRENT (mid summer) to RELENG_5 on i386

2004-10-21 Thread Donald J. O'Neill
On Thursday 21 October 2004 03:14 pm, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC 
wrote:
 Hi

 I am trying to upgrade my 5.2-CURRENT from the mid-summer
 timeframe to RELENG_5 on an i386 platform (actually dual opteron
 running i386).

 I did a cvsup early this morning and then try and build my kernel
 and get the following:

 # make buildkernel KERNCONF=HOST-SMP

 I am not sure what is not found.  I don't see it looking for a
 file +for .

 Anyone seeing the problem, your input is appreciated.

 Thanks
 Chad

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Hi Chad,

Just off the top of my head, it seems to me, from what you've 
described, you aren't following the correct procedure. I suggest 
following the procedure in /usr/src/UPDATING. What you want is 
located towards the end. I fact, I'll quote it here for you:

 To rebuild everything and install it on the current system.
 ---
 # Note: sometimes if you are running current you gotta do more than
 # is listed here if you are upgrading from a really old current.

 make sure you have good level 0 dumps
 maybe fix /etc/fstab[7]
 make buildworld
 make buildkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE
 make installkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE
   [1]
 reboot in single user[3]
 /etc/rc.d/preseedrandom[10]
 mergemaster -p [5]
 make installworld
 mergemaster [4]
 reboot

Also, be aware that 5.3 uses some different groups and users, you're 
going to have to put your users and passwords back in. 

Don

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Problems compiling Oracle9i client into PHP 4.3.8 on 4.10-STABLE

2004-10-21 Thread Brian Hood
I've install my client libraries in 
/compat/linux/usr/lib/oracle/9.0.1/client and set the
environment 
variables as below

setenv ORACLE_BASE
/compat/linux/usr/lib/oracle/9.0.1/client
setenv ORACLE_HOME
/compat/linux/usr/lib/oracle/9.0.1/client
setenv TNS_ADMIN 
/compat/linux/usr/lib/oracle/9.0.1/client/network/admin

I'm using the php from the port in /usr/port/lang/php4
but I'm building 
it myself from the work directory the standard
configure line but with 
the added oci8 option as this is not includeding the
php4-extensions 
port.

./configure  --enable-versioning --enable-memory-limit

--with-layout=GNU 
--with-config-file-scan-dir=/usr/local/etc/php
--disable-all 
--with-regex=php --with-apxs=/usr/local/sbin/apxs
--enable-debug 
--disable-ipv6 --prefix=/usr/local
i386-portbld-freebsd4.10 --with-oci8

when running the configure it works fine displays that
its found oracle 
client

checking for Oracle-OCI8 support... yes
checking Oracle Install-Dir... 
/compat/linux/usr/lib/oracle/9.0.1/client
checking Oracle version... 9.0
checking for OCIEnvNlsCreate in -lclntsh... (cached)
no
checking for OCILobIsTemporary in -lclntsh... (cached)
no
checking for OCILobIsTemporary in -locijdbc8...
(cached) no

I've copied the include files into ext/oci8 and into
main/ like they 
tell you to but when I try to compile it at the end of
the compile it 
fails with this error

cc -shared  ext/oci8/oci8.lo regex/regcomp.lo
regex/regexec.lo 
regex/regerror.lo regex/regfree.lo
ext/standard/array.lo 
ext/standard/base64.lo ext/standard/basic_functions.lo

ext/standard/browscap.lo ext/standard/crc32.lo
ext/standard/crypt.lo 
ext/standard/cyr_convert.lo ext/standard/datetime.lo 
ext/standard/dir.lo 
ext/standard/dl.lo ext/standard/dns.lo
ext/standard/exec.lo 
ext/standard/file.lo ext/standard/filestat.lo 
ext/standard/flock_compat.lo
ext/standard/formatted_print.lo 
ext/standard/fsock.lo ext/standard/head.lo
ext/standard/html.lo 
ext/standard/image.lo ext/standard/info.lo
ext/standard/iptc.lo 
ext/standard/lcg.lo ext/standard/link.lo
ext/standard/mail.lo 
ext/standard/math.lo ext/standard/md5.lo
ext/standard/metaphone.lo 
ext/standard/microtime.lo ext/standard/pack.lo
ext/standard/pageinfo.lo 
ext/standard/parsedate.lo ext/standard/quot_print.lo 
ext/standard/rand.lo ext/standard/reg.lo
ext/standard/soundex.lo 
ext/standard/string.lo ext/standard/scanf.lo
ext/standard/syslog.lo 
ext/standard/type.lo ext/standard/uniqid.lo
ext/standard/url.lo 
ext/standard/url_scanner.lo ext/standard/var.lo 
ext/standard/versioning.lo ext/standard/assert.lo 
ext/standard/strnatcmp.lo ext/standard/levenshtein.lo 
ext/standard/incomplete_class.lo
ext/standard/url_scanner_ex.lo 
ext/standard/ftp_fopen_wrapper.lo
ext/standard/http_fopen_wrapper.lo 
ext/standard/php_fopen_wrapper.lo
ext/standard/credits.lo 
ext/standard/css.lo ext/standard/var_unserializer.lo 
ext/standard/ftok.lo ext/standard/aggregation.lo
ext/standard/sha1.lo 
TSRM/TSRM.lo TSRM/tsrm_strtok_r.lo
TSRM/tsrm_virtual_cwd.lo 
main/main.lo 
main/snprintf.lo main/spprintf.lo main/php_sprintf.lo
main/safe_mode.lo 
main/fopen_wrappers.lo main/alloca.lo
main/php_scandir.lo 
main/php_ini.lo main/SAPI.lo main/rfc1867.lo
main/php_content_types.lo 
main/strlcpy.lo main/strlcat.lo main/mergesort.lo
main/reentrancy.lo 
main/php_variables.lo main/php_ticks.lo
main/streams.lo main/network.lo 
main/php_open_temporary_file.lo main/php_logos.lo
main/output.lo 
main/memory_streams.lo main/user_streams.lo 
Zend/zend_language_parser.lo 
Zend/zend_language_scanner.lo Zend/zend_ini_parser.lo 
Zend/zend_ini_scanner.lo Zend/zend_alloc.lo
Zend/zend_compile.lo 
Zend/zend_constants.lo Zend/zend_dynamic_array.lo 
Zend/zend_execute_API.lo Zend/zend_highlight.lo
Zend/zend_llist.lo 
Zend/zend_opcode.lo Zend/zend_operators.lo
Zend/zend_ptr_stack.lo 
Zend/zend_stack.lo Zend/zend_variables.lo Zend/zend.lo
Zend/zend_API.lo 
Zend/zend_extensions.lo Zend/zend_hash.lo
Zend/zend_list.lo 
Zend/zend_indent.lo Zend/zend_builtin_functions.lo
Zend/zend_sprintf.lo 
Zend/zend_ini.lo Zend/zend_qsort.lo
Zend/zend_multibyte.lo 
Zend/zend_execute.lo sapi/apache/sapi_apache.lo
sapi/apache/mod_php4.lo 
sapi/apache/php_apache.lo main/internal_functions.lo 
-Wl,--rpath 
-Wl,/compat/linux/usr/lib/oracle/9.0.1/client/lib  
-L/compat/linux/usr/lib/oracle/9.0.1/client/lib
-lcrypt -lcrypt -lm 
-ldl 
-lm -lclntsh -lcrypt -lcrypt  -Wl,-soname
-Wl,libphp4.so 
-Wl,-retain-symbols-file 
-Wl,/usr/ports/lang/php4/work/php-4.3.8/sapi/apache/php.sym
-o 
.libs/libphp4.so
/usr/libexec/elf/ld: cannot find -ldl
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/lang/php4/work/php-4.3.8.

However I've tried this method on redhat linux 9 and
it works fine.

I believe the -ldl that it can't find is something to
do with mod_so 
support for apache but thats all i know.


Brian Hood,



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Command Line MP4 conversion

2004-10-21 Thread Bob Bomar
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From Cuba

2004-10-21 Thread rcamilo
Hello

I want to know if i can help to FreeBSD Project here in Cuba, i can help in enything 
you want, in translation and distribution, i can send my adreeses

Oscar Castillo Coll
14 #9 apto 32
/Linea y Calzada
Vedado, Plaza de la Revolucion
Ciudad Habana. Cuba
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Fatal trap??

2004-10-21 Thread Gerard Samuel
The box usually runs without any problems, but anyone have any idea what
caused the box to reboot with this error?  Hardware maybe?
FreeBSD 4.10-RELEASE-p3
Thanks
-
Oct 21 17:27:34 hivemind /kernel: Fatal trap 12: page fault while in 
kernel mode
Oct 21 17:27:34 hivemind /kernel: fault virtual address = 0x12
Oct 21 17:27:34 hivemind /kernel: fault code= supervisor 
read, page not present
Oct 21 17:27:34 hivemind /kernel: instruction pointer   = 0x8:0xc0212c7c
Oct 21 17:27:34 hivemind /kernel: stack pointer = 0x10:0xd4815e7c
Oct 21 17:27:34 hivemind /kernel: frame pointer = 0x10:0xd4815e84
Oct 21 17:27:34 hivemind /kernel: code segment  = base 0x0, 
limit 0xf, type 0x1b
Oct 21 17:27:34 hivemind /kernel: = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1
Oct 21 17:27:34 hivemind /kernel: processor eflags  = interrupt 
enabled, resume, IOPL = 0
Oct 21 17:27:34 hivemind /kernel: current process   = 3235 
(postgres)
Oct 21 17:27:34 hivemind /kernel: interrupt mask= none
Oct 21 17:27:34 hivemind /kernel: trap number   = 12
Oct 21 17:27:34 hivemind /kernel: panic: page fault
Oct 21 17:27:34 hivemind /kernel:
Oct 21 17:27:34 hivemind /kernel: syncing disks... 38 1
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mount problem

2004-10-21 Thread Joe Stuart
I'm having a problem mounting a harddrive. Whenever I try to mount the
drive I get bad superblock.  I have even cheated and booted the machine
using knoppix and from there the drive mounts and reports the correct
space being used, but when I run ls it lists absolutely no files. If any
one has any suggestions it would be greatly appreciated.

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libtool13

2004-10-21 Thread Dominique Hoffman
Hi all,

I am new to FreeBSD.  I am trying to install apache 1.3.31 and I keep
getting the following error:

apache-1.3.31_6 depends on shared library: expat.5 - not found
===Verifying install for expat.5 in /usr/ports/textproc/expat2
===   expat-1.95.8 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/libtool13 - not
found
===Verifying install for /usr/local/bin/libtool13 in
/usr/ports/devel/libtool13
===  Installing for libtool-1.3.5_2
===   Generating temporary packing list
===  Checking if devel/libtool13 already installed
ln: POSIX: Operation not permitted
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/devel/libtool13.
*** Error code 1

Output or 'uname -a'

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Re: From Cuba

2004-10-21 Thread Jerry McAllister
 
 Hello
 
 I want to know if i can help to FreeBSD Project here in Cuba, i can help 
 in enything you want, in translation and distribution, i can send my adreeses

The best thing to do is to start running FreeBSD - if you haven't already
done so, download and install a recent version, probably 4.10 and gain
experience in it.

Then, just start doing things.   There is a Spanish translation project
now.   Look at it and see what you can add and submit your additions
and corrections.  If it is appropriate to have a separate language
track for Cuban Spanish, then you have a big project ahead of you.
 
Go to:http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/index.html

Click on the Translation link near the bottom of the page and
then on the 'Spanish Documentation Project'  link in the list.
I think you will be surprised how much is done and get an idea
of what you can do.

In general, you can submit a PR to make additions or corrections
for documentation just as you can for program source code.

Good luck and welcome,

jerry

 
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Re: mount problem

2004-10-21 Thread Jerry McAllister
 
 I'm having a problem mounting a harddrive. Whenever I try to mount the
 drive I get bad superblock.  I have even cheated and booted the machine
 using knoppix and from there the drive mounts and reports the correct
 space being used, but when I run ls it lists absolutely no files. If any
 one has any suggestions it would be greatly appreciated.

Guess we will have to know more of what you have tried and
details on what results.

You say you are trying to 'mount a harddrive' but did you slice, partition
and build file systems on it?   Certainly if you did not do that you
would see a bad superblock error message.
What exactly are you trying to mount?

jerry

 
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Fwd: Sharing Internet Connection w/XP

2004-10-21 Thread Bob Perry
Pls disregard previous request for assistance.  Was able to locate the 
TCP/IP configuration section in XP.

Thanks,
Bob Perry 

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Would appreciate any assistance/direction with setting up an internet 
connection with Windows XP.  I'm running 4.9 RELEASE and had an NT box 
configured previously to share the external modem attached to my FreeBSD 
box.  The NT box was replaced with the XP system.

TIA,
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RE: libtool13

2004-10-21 Thread Haulmark, Chris
Someone broke the silence on :

 Hi all,
 
 I am new to FreeBSD.  I am trying to install apache 1.3.31 and I keep
 getting the following error: 
 
 apache-1.3.31_6 depends on shared library: expat.5 - not found
 ===Verifying install for expat.5 in /usr/ports/textproc/expat2
 ===   expat-1.95.8 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/libtool13 - not
 found ===Verifying install for /usr/local/bin/libtool13 in
 /usr/ports/devel/libtool13 ===  Installing for libtool-1.3.5_2
 ===   Generating temporary packing list
 ===  Checking if devel/libtool13 already installed
 ln: POSIX: Operation not permitted
 *** Error code 1
 
 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/libtool13.
 *** Error code 1

Were you logged in as root?

 
 Output or 'uname -a'
 
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Re: Why does my RE not apear *in* the thread

2004-10-21 Thread Henk
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  Since I like to post and reply nicely, can anybody explain me how to
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how to enable del key under bash?

2004-10-21 Thread Matthias F. Brandstetter
Hi all,

I am using FreeBSD 4.10, working under bash. I use keymap german.iso, and 
everything works fine, no problems with deadkeys or similar.

Only thing is, I can't use the del key. When I type a string in console, 
use home to get to first char and then hit del to delete this first 
char, I get a tilde (~) insted of earasing the character.

Any ideas on this?
Greetings and TIA, Matthias

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Re: Command Line MP4 conversion

2004-10-21 Thread Michael Johnson
http://badcomputer.no-ip.com/linux/dir2ogg/
that's a kinda neat utility, it will convert an entire directory of say 
mp4 to mp3
or ogg to mp3, etc etc.

Michael
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Re: Why does my RE not apear *in* the thread

2004-10-21 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Oct 22), Henk said:
  In the last episode (Oct 20), Henk said:
   Since I like to post and reply nicely, can anybody explain me how
   to reply in a thread, instead of starting a new one?
 
  Hit the reply or reply to all link/button/keystroke in whatever
  mailer you are using.

 Well this should do the job than.

Apparently not.  It doesn't look like SquirrelMail/1.4.2 creates
In-Reply-To: or References: headers, which is what most software uses
to build message threads.

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Re: Command Line MP4 conversion

2004-10-21 Thread Bob Bomar
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On Oct 21, 2004, at 5:45 PM, Michael Johnson wrote:
http://badcomputer.no-ip.com/linux/dir2ogg/
that's a kinda neat utility, it will convert an entire directory of 
say mp4 to mp3
or ogg to mp3, etc etc.

Thanks, that is exactly what I am looking for.
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FreeBSD 4.10 not finding 3ware controllers

2004-10-21 Thread Benson Wong
Hi, 

I just got a new server with a SuperMicro X6DH8-G motherboard. it's
basically a dual xeon board with 2  3Ware controllers in it.

The Controllers: 
8006-2LP
8506-4LP

A couple of days ago I installed 4.10 on old Dell 300S PowerEdge
server, with the same 3ware controllers and the installation went
flawlessly. However on this machine FreeBSD doesn't can't seem to
autodetect the controllers.

I'm thinking that 4.10 doesn't have support for the motherboards, but
I'm not entirely sure. Has anybody else experienced the same thing, or
have any insight into this? Does this require some kernel tweaks of
the installation CD?

Thanks. 
Ben

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Re: can't upgrade from 5.2-CURRENT (mid summer) to RELENG_5 on i386

2004-10-21 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
Thanks to all who replied.  I had a faulty memory and had reversed the 
buildworld and buildkernel steps

Thanks
Chad
On Oct 21, 2004, at 2:54 PM, Donald J. O'Neill wrote:
On Thursday 21 October 2004 03:14 pm, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
wrote:
Hi
I am trying to upgrade my 5.2-CURRENT from the mid-summer
timeframe to RELENG_5 on an i386 platform (actually dual opteron
running i386).
I did a cvsup early this morning and then try and build my kernel
and get the following:
# make buildkernel KERNCONF=HOST-SMP
I am not sure what is not found.  I don't see it looking for a
file +for .
Anyone seeing the problem, your input is appreciated.
Thanks
Chad
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Just off the top of my head, it seems to me, from what you've
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following the procedure in /usr/src/UPDATING. What you want is
located towards the end. I fact, I'll quote it here for you:
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Re: Command Line MP4 conversion

2004-10-21 Thread Bob Bomar
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On Oct 21, 2004, at 5:54 PM, Michael Johnson wrote:
okay, I'm stupid, I don't think it'll do mp4 to mp3.. sorry
faad m4a (mp4) to wav, then lame to mp3.
Its on the front page.
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Problems installing Subversion

2004-10-21 Thread Jesse Sheidlower

I'm trying to install Subversion on a computer running FreeBSD 4.9,
with a fully updated Ports tree. There seems to be some kind of
apr-related problem, though it's not clear why.

When I first ran portinstall, it installed apr itself, and everything
ran smoothly with that install, but when it returned to Subversion
I got

---
===   Returning to build of subversion-1.0.8
===  Configuring for subversion-1.0.8

You select to use`devel/apr' for apr library.
It seems that `devel/apr' is not properly installed.

*** Error code 1
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I checked, and apr does seem to be installed (with the package
apparently called apr-nothr-gdbm-db4-1.0.0), but trying to re-run
the Subversion install dies in the same way.

What's going on? The only thing in UPDATING is talking about
installing Subversion with Apache2, which I am not doing; I
couldn't find anything relevant on the mailing lists.

Thanks.

Jesse Sheidlower
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Re: Command Line MP4 conversion

2004-10-21 Thread Michael Johnson
Oh, I thought you wanted a tool to do it all for you.
On Oct 21, 2004, at 6:58 PM, Bob Bomar wrote:
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okay, I'm stupid, I don't think it'll do mp4 to mp3.. sorry
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Its on the front page.
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Re: Command Line MP4 conversion

2004-10-21 Thread Bob Bomar
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On Oct 21, 2004, at 6:18 PM, Michael Johnson wrote:
Oh, I thought you wanted a tool to do it all for you.
On Oct 21, 2004, at 6:58 PM, Bob Bomar wrote:
I would, but I can roll my own as well, now that I have these tools.
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Re: Problems installing Subversion

2004-10-21 Thread Kris Kennaway

On Thu, Oct 21, 2004 at 07:02:25PM -0400, Jesse Sheidlower wrote:
 
 I'm trying to install Subversion on a computer running FreeBSD 4.9,
 with a fully updated Ports tree. There seems to be some kind of
 apr-related problem, though it's not clear why.
 
 When I first ran portinstall, it installed apr itself, and everything
 ran smoothly with that install, but when it returned to Subversion
 I got
 
 ---
 ===   Returning to build of subversion-1.0.8
 ===  Configuring for subversion-1.0.8
 
 You select to use`devel/apr' for apr library.
 It seems that `devel/apr' is not properly installed.
 
 *** Error code 1
 ---
 
 I checked, and apr does seem to be installed (with the package
 apparently called apr-nothr-gdbm-db4-1.0.0), but trying to re-run
 the Subversion install dies in the same way.
 
 What's going on? The only thing in UPDATING is talking about
 installing Subversion with Apache2, which I am not doing; I
 couldn't find anything relevant on the mailing lists.

Yep, it's broken..maintainer has been informed; watch the port
(e.g. with freshports.org) for the fix.

Kris


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RE: Problems installing Subversion

2004-10-21 Thread Haulmark, Chris
Someone broke the silence: 

 I'm trying to install Subversion on a computer running FreeBSD 4.9,
 with a fully updated Ports tree. There seems to be some kind of
 apr-related problem, though it's not clear why.
 
 When I first ran portinstall, it installed apr itself, and everything
 ran smoothly with that install, but when it returned to Subversion
 I got
 
 ---
 ===   Returning to build of subversion-1.0.8
 ===  Configuring for subversion-1.0.8
 
 You select to use`devel/apr' for apr library.
 It seems that `devel/apr' is not properly installed.
 
 *** Error code 1
 ---
 
 I checked, and apr does seem to be installed (with the package
 apparently called apr-nothr-gdbm-db4-1.0.0), but trying to re-run
 the Subversion install dies in the same way.
 
 What's going on? The only thing in UPDATING is talking about
 installing Subversion with Apache2, which I am not doing; I
 couldn't find anything relevant on the mailing lists.

Check in the freebsd-ports mailing list archive.  There's a few days old
thread regarding this including a patch to update your version to
subversion 1.1.0.

I would just do a cvsup to see if Subversion has been updated or not.
If not, use the patch.

 
 Thanks.
 
 Jesse Sheidlower
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