Re: Mouse in X w/ 5.3

2005-01-19 Thread Thanos Tsouanas
On Thu, Jan 20, 2005 at 07:15:27AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Thursday 20 January 2005 06:58, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Anyway, to buisness.  It seems that I'm using an invalid mouse driver or
> > something with X, because when I move the mouse it keeps jumping to the
> > left side of the screen.  Very annoying.

Maybe tweaking the configuration of mouse in X would solve the
problem.  Does this problem appear if no X is running as well?

> > While I'm at it... would there be a package management tool similar to
> > ipkg/rpmi/apt-get/yum or whatever? I assume so.. but what is it called?

is there? Ha!  take a look at ports:
/ust/ports/  if you installed them..
www.freebsd.org/ports/
You can use either ports (source-code based, you compile them
locally) or packages (binary based, faster bethod but not that
much configurable)

If you have experience with Gentoo, ports is what they copied when
they implemented emerge.

HTH

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Re: /usr/local/etc/rc.d vs /etc/rc.conf question

2005-01-19 Thread Toomas Aas
Andy Firman wrote:
On my 4.10 box, there is a mysql-server script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d and nothing
in /etc/rc.conf, yet mysql-server starts up a boot time.  

Why?   
Your mysql-server port was probably installed before 31.10.2004. It was 
modified to use rc.conf variables at that date (see /usr/ports/UPDATING).

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Re: Security for webserver behind router?

2005-01-19 Thread Thanos Tsouanas
On Thu, Jan 20, 2005 at 04:23:07AM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote:
> Jay O'Brien writes:
> 
> JOB> Thanks, but what I want to know is what risk I have with port 80,
> JOB> and only port 80 open. 
>
> The risk depends on Apache, since that's the daemon answering the phone
> when someone calls in on port 80.
> 
> Just make sure you're using the latest version of Apache (1.3.33, if you
> want the 1.x version, or 2.0.52, if you want the 2.x version).  Some
> earlier versions are vulnerable.  As long as Apache is secure, port 80
> can be open.

Just how much secure do you want to be?  You can run apache
chrooted in its directory.  That basically means, that if
apache is installed at /var/www/ , you can set it so that it
isn't aware of anything that's not under /var/www/

So, even if a security hole is found on apache, and someone does
manage to break in, they won't be able to do much to the system,
nor gain information about it, but will only be able to deal
with /var/www/* ...

If security is all that matters, you might want to have a look
at OpenBSD's approach, which runs a modified apache version,
chrooted by default.

P.S. Running apache chrooted is a great idea, and that's how my
 httpd is running, but it can be a PITA if you try to
 install it without understainding how it works.

good luck

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RE: Security for webserver behind router?

2005-01-19 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jay O'Brien
> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 10:06 PM
> To: FreeBSD - questions
> Subject: Re: Security for webserver behind router?
>
>
> Anthony Atkielski wrote:
>
> > Jay O'Brien writes:
> >
> > JOB> Thanks, but what I want to know is what risk I have
> with port 80,
> > JOB> and only port 80 open.
> >
> > The risk depends on Apache, since that's the daemon
> answering the phone
> > when someone calls in on port 80.
> >
> > Just make sure you're using the latest version of Apache
> (1.3.33, if you
> > want the 1.x version, or 2.0.52, if you want the 2.x version).  Some
> > earlier versions are vulnerable.  As long as Apache is
> secure, port 80
> > can be open.
> >
>
> I am running Apache 1.3.33, as you suggest I should. You say
> "as long as
> Apache is secure"; what should I do to be sure that Apache is secure?
>

Nothing, you nor nobody can do this.  All you can do is subscribe to
the Apache mailing list and if someone discovers a hole in Apache
at some point in the future, then you can immediately patch your
installation with the inevitable patch that will shortly follow.

> If there isn't a security risk with the FreeBSD system I've described,
> maybe this question belongs on the Apache mailing list, not here?
>

It is more accurate to say that a properly setup system contains
"no security holes KNOWN to the general public at the time that it
was setup"

There is no way to guarentee security.  People are always working
on code looking for holes.  Considering the hundred thousand or
so lines of code in the source of a FreeBSD system running Apache,
it is unrealistic to assume that every single bit of it is completely
secure.

Even the Motion Picture Association created a hole when
they came up with the CSS encryption standard that is used on every
DVD sold, and the MPAA has more money than God to throw into
coding (well, at least more money than anyone else in the business)
in short there is absolutely no guarentee no matter how much
money you shit out your arsehole over a project and no matter
how much money it's worth to you, that it can be guarenteed to
be secure.

Ted

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Re: Security for webserver behind router?

2005-01-19 Thread pete wright
On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 22:05:40 -0800, Jay O'Brien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Anthony Atkielski wrote:
> 
> > Jay O'Brien writes:
> >
> > JOB> Thanks, but what I want to know is what risk I have with port 80,
> > JOB> and only port 80 open.
> >
> > The risk depends on Apache, since that's the daemon answering the phone
> > when someone calls in on port 80.
> >
> > Just make sure you're using the latest version of Apache (1.3.33, if you
> > want the 1.x version, or 2.0.52, if you want the 2.x version).  Some
> > earlier versions are vulnerable.  As long as Apache is secure, port 80
> > can be open.
> >
> 
> I am running Apache 1.3.33, as you suggest I should. You say "as long as
> Apache is secure"; what should I do to be sure that Apache is secure?
> 
> If there isn't a security risk with the FreeBSD system I've described,
> maybe this question belongs on the Apache mailing list, not here?
> 

If you are interested in learning about how FreeBSD works, and am
concerned about security (which frankly are two good things to be
concerned with) then your best bet is to check the man pages as well
as the handbook:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/firewalls.html
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/securing-freebsd.html
(all good things to read)

strictly speaking, by opening a port and exposing a service, an attack
vector is created which someone could use against you.  the best way
to deal with this is to know what applications you are running to
monitor them.  as of now though there does not seem to be an open
security hole with that version of apache...altho who knows what will
happen tommorow.
HTH
-pete



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Re: Mouse in X w/ 5.3

2005-01-19 Thread scottclansman
On Thursday 20 January 2005 06:58, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Yo;
> Linux user here that just installed FreeBSD 5.3 on an old 566MHz Celeron
> system.  With my relatively small *NIX experience (Windows/Mac user until
> not to long ago) I've been able to feel quite at home with FreeBSD.  X
> configured itself all but perfectly (More than I can say for the various
> Linux distros I've tried... they don't like my monitor it seems), and I
> feel right at home on KDE.   I installed FreeBSD on a testbed server here,
> and may soon be switching my Mandrake Linux 9.2 server to FreeBSD (Either
> that or Debian... depends on how well I can get things like XSP to work)
>
> Anyway, to buisness.  It seems that I'm using an invalid mouse driver or
> something with X, because when I move the mouse it keeps jumping to the
> left side of the screen.  Very annoying.
> While I'm at it... would there be a package management tool similar to
> ipkg/rpmi/apt-get/yum or whatever? I assume so.. but what is it called?
>Thanx,
>SigmaX
*ahem* forgot to mention that I have an Micro Innovations PS/2 optical 
mouse.  
Cheerio,
   SigmaX
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Re[6]: Connection via proxy

2005-01-19 Thread Hexren
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mervin McDougall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 4:22 PM
>> To: Hexren
>> Cc: freebsd questions
>> Subject: Re: Re[4]: Connection via proxy
>> 
>> 
>> tried updating the /etc/resolve.conf with the ips of
>> the nameservers I got from windows XP but got the same
>> results after trying to run mozilla .. that the proxy
>> server could not be found.
>> 

HDA> if you updated /etc/resolve.conf it won't work!
HDA> drop the 'e' off resolve

HDA> dave



>> --- Hexren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>> > MM> the laptop is a dual boot running windows XP on
>> > one
>> > MM> slice and Freebsd 5.3 on another slice.
>> > 
>> > MM> I tried pinging the proxy server but got this
>> > error
>> > MM> message
>> > 
>> > MM> can't resolve proxy.uvi.edu  host name look up
>> > failure
>> > MM> proxy.uvi.edu being the name of the proxy server
>> > 
>> > MM> --- Hexren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > 
>> > >> MM> Can you identify some other tests as well I
>> > >> could
>> > >> MM> possible run other than pinging as I am going
>> > to
>> > >> have
>> > >> MM> to reboot on each occurence to try see if
>> > >> freebsd can
>> > >> MM> see that server and connect to it
>> > >> 
>> > >> 
>> > >> >> 
>> > >> >> -
>> > >> >> 
>> > >> >> You can ping the Proxy from the Notebook ?
>> > >> >> 
>> > >> >> Hexren
>> > >> >> 
>> > >> >> 
>> > >> 
>> > >> 
>> > >> 
>> > >> -
>> > >> 
>> > >> Your message doesn't parse. Why do you have to
>> > >> reboot the machine ? Each
>> > >> time ?
>> > >> I just wanted to know, if at the point where
>> > mozilla
>> > >> says it
>> > >> can't find the proxy you can ping the proxy using
>> > >> DNS name or IP.
>> > >> 
>> > >> Regards (I really should look up some nice way to
>> > >> finish a mail in
>> > >> english)
>> > >> 
>> > >> Hexren
>> > >> 
>> > >> 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > MM> __
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>> > MM> Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we.
>> > 
>> > MM> http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
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>> > I would guess that you haven't configured DNS under
>> > FreeBSD.
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Lookup the nameserver you use with WinXP.
>> > (Start->Run type "cmd" in
>> > the shell opening type "ipconfig /all")
>> > 
>> > Then insert that DNS server into your
>> > /etc/resolv.conf under FreeBSD
>> > The line should look like
>> > "nameserver "
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Hexren
>> > 
>> > 
>> 
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may sound like repetition. But can you ping the ip of the nameserver ?

Hexren

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RE: One Last Plea For Vinum Assistance

2005-01-19 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
Hi Drew,

  Please read the following:

http://www.vinumvm.org/vinum/how-to-debug.html

  And follow the instructions exactly.  And I mean exactly.
Also keep the following in mind, Greg will try to help but
note carefully the sentence on this webpage:

"Since I wrote it, FreeBSD has changed its I/O structure, breaking many
things in Vinum. At the time of writing, a new version, provisionally
called gvinum, is being written"

  I myself have had one serious crash on a vinum RAID volume as
a result of a SCSI cable problem that blew away the volume.  (2
drives were corrupted, instead of just one, making it impossible
for the volume manager to repair by itself)  I sent all the info
to Greg but ultimately he wasn't able to offer any suggestions
on recovering the array so I just wiped it and started over.

Note that Greg DID NOT recommend wiping the array.  In fact he
didn't recommend anything.  The lack of any recommendation
appears to be his way of telling you "your volume is screwed,
wipe it and start over"  Like most UNIX commands, if Greg
has nothing to offer, he says nothing at all, he won't tell you he
has nothing to offer.  So, the lack of a response to your
original post you can probably take as an answer, to be honest.

  This did teach me a lesson that I kind of knew already but
didn't think too much about.  That is, a software array is no substitute
for a hardware array.  In other words, vinum is a great thing
if what your wanting to do is use a bunch of cheap disks and
cheap controller cards to either get a giant partition, or to
stripe them together and get faster access.  But it's not so
good if the intent is to get some crash recovery.

  I don't use and have never used vinum for /etc, /, /usr, /var
or any other system partitions.  I only use it for partitions
that I want to mount AFTER the system is booted.  If I were in
your shoes I'd nuke your system and start all over again and
rethink how I had it laid out.  I would use a single disk for
the system then take the rest of the disks and put them together
under vinum.  Then I'd mount that on /ftp and I'd softlink
whatever thing is gopping up space under /usr, for example
/usr/local/www, to a directory under /ftp

Vinum isn't going to give you any crash recovery
for /usr so there is really no point in making /usr a vinum
volume.  Beyond that I really don't understand why you
are putting /usr as a vinum volume, espically as you yourself
said "Fortunately this volume is up and running or I would
really be in a mess"  I mean, your basically saying your
hitting yourself in the face and you feel fortunate you
haven't broken your nose yet.

Anyway, one other thing I will bring up:  How exactly did
you update your system?  Did you nuke and repave it?  Or did
you follow the instructions here EXACTLY:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html

If you didn't do one or the other of these things then nobody is going
to help you.

Ted

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Drew Tomlinson
> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 2:00 PM
> To: FreeBSD Questions
> Subject: One Last Plea For Vinum Assistance
>
>
> I sent the message below a couple of times but did not receive
> any response.
> I assume that it's because either I have a really difficult
> problem or am
> asking something really stupid.  :)  But anyway, I want to install
> additional
> memory in this machine and am sure I will run across the same problems
> after
> shutting down.  So if anyone has any suggestions on how I
> might solve this
> issue, I'd really appreciate the input.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Drew
>
> --- Original Message ---
> Since an upgrade from 4.9 to 4.10, I've had problems with
> vinum.  The basic
> problem is that upon reboot, two of my vinum drives show up as
> "referenced" and
> thus create the associated chaos.  I've tried many things and fiddled
> around
> quite a bit so I can't say exactly what I've done.  I can
> include all of
> the
> entries in the history file since Oct. 31 if that's a help but
> it would
> be a
> long list.
>
> So prior to digging that deep, I will describe where I stand
> currently and
> where I want to finish.  Currently, I have one vinum volume
> that I use for
> /usr. Fortunately this volume is up and running or I would
> really be in a
> mess. Here's the 'vinum list' output in this state:
>
> blacklamb# vinum
> vinum -> list
> 2 drives:
> D disk1 State: up   Device /dev/da0s1h  Avail:
> 0/8383 MB (0%)
> D disk2 State: up   Device /dev/da1s1h  Avail:
> 0/8383 MB (0%)
>
> 1 volumes:
> V usr   State: up   Plexes:   1 Size:
>16 GB
>
> 1 plexes:
> P usr.p0  S State: up   Subdisks: 2 Size:
>16 GB
>
> 2 subdisks:
> S usr.p0.s0 State: up   PO:0  B Size:
>  8383 MB
> S usr.p0.s1 State: up   PO:  256 kB Size:
>  8383 MB
>
> I wa

Mouse in X w/ 5.3

2005-01-19 Thread scottclansman
Yo;
Linux user here that just installed FreeBSD 5.3 on an old 566MHz Celeron 
system.  With my relatively small *NIX experience (Windows/Mac user until not 
to long ago) I've been able to feel quite at home with FreeBSD.  X configured 
itself all but perfectly (More than I can say for the various Linux distros 
I've tried... they don't like my monitor it seems), and I feel right at home 
on KDE.   I installed FreeBSD on a testbed server here, and may soon be 
switching my Mandrake Linux 9.2 server to FreeBSD (Either that or Debian... 
depends on how well I can get things like XSP to work)

Anyway, to buisness.  It seems that I'm using an invalid mouse driver or 
something with X, because when I move the mouse it keeps jumping to the left 
side of the screen.  Very annoying.  
While I'm at it... would there be a package management tool similar to 
ipkg/rpmi/apt-get/yum or whatever? I assume so.. but what is it called?
   Thanx,
   SigmaX
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Re: Security for webserver behind router?

2005-01-19 Thread Jay O'Brien
Anthony Atkielski wrote:

> Jay O'Brien writes:
> 
> JOB> Thanks, but what I want to know is what risk I have with port 80,
> JOB> and only port 80 open. 
> 
> The risk depends on Apache, since that's the daemon answering the phone
> when someone calls in on port 80.
> 
> Just make sure you're using the latest version of Apache (1.3.33, if you
> want the 1.x version, or 2.0.52, if you want the 2.x version).  Some
> earlier versions are vulnerable.  As long as Apache is secure, port 80
> can be open.
> 

I am running Apache 1.3.33, as you suggest I should. You say "as long as 
Apache is secure"; what should I do to be sure that Apache is secure? 

If there isn't a security risk with the FreeBSD system I've described, 
maybe this question belongs on the Apache mailing list, not here? 

Jay

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RE: not found Image Magick

2005-01-19 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt

How about:

exec("PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/bin;export PATH;/usr/local/bin/convert
test.pdf test.gif");

exec spawns inheret a rather restricted set of environmental
variables.

Ted

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> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: gs: not found Image Magick
>
>
> I can execute Image Magick convert PDF to jpg from shell with
> no problem.  If I try from PHP script, like this:
>
>  exec("/usr/local/bin/convert test.pdf test.gif");
> ?>
>
> I get the following errors:
>
> gs: not found
> convert: Postscript delegate failed `test.pdf'.
> convert: missing an image filename `norden.gif'.
>
> If I try to convert non-pdf files in php script, it works OK.
>
> Any help would be great!
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gs: not found Image Magick

2005-01-19 Thread mappolonia
I can execute Image Magick convert PDF to jpg from shell with no problem.  If I 
try from PHP script, like this:



I get the following errors:

gs: not found
convert: Postscript delegate failed `test.pdf'.
convert: missing an image filename `norden.gif'.

If I try to convert non-pdf files in php script, it works OK.

Any help would be great!

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Re: different behaviour between 4.x and 5.x (ping response/disk io) [was Re: ]

2005-01-19 Thread stheg olloydson
it was said

> Just a few day ago i installed NetBSD 2.0 to make a final stroke to
> my decision as i got this computer on the 16. of november. Main
> advantage in my opinion is that raidframe performs better than vinum
(at least 
> with my setup and with the tests i performed). There are some other 
> topics but mainly subjective and not the matter of this email. I
> guess i'm going to stick with it, developers and time will do the
rest for me. :)
> But what's most important is that your mail gave me the confidence
> that my hardware isn't faulty. It's also very nice that you shed some
> light on the that whole network subject.

Glad to be of help. Raidframe had been ported to FBSD 5.x, but it was
removed because kernel changes broke it, and no one volunteered to fix
it. I think gvinum replaced vinum in 5.3 for the same reason. I don't
use software raid, so I don't really know.
But NBSD 2.0 is very nice. A company that I do consulting for has just
chosen it as the OS for a new embedded product in their pipeline. I've
been toying with the idea of idea of web-enabling my toaster by hooking
up temperature sensors and a camera, so web surfers could make toast at
my house. I was going to use a 8051 chip and write the code, but maybe
I'll use NBSD on an embedded board. (Someday, I may want to add the
sprinkler system, pool pump,)
 
>> P.S. (to the list in general) Why do all of the questions about FBSD

>>performance, especially 4.x vs 5.x, come from people posting from
>> Windows boxes? Theories?
> 
> In my case i'm using windows because it's pre-installed on the laptop
> i use and i never had luck with *bsd/linux on the desktop (and
> especially laptops). 

This was meant as a humorous question because of certain Windows users'
not well-reasoned or -argued posts on this very topic in the last few
days.

> Well, enough said. (Maybe i'll make some space free for FreeBSD 5.3
> to give a try but i'm not to optimistic that it will suffice my
needs)

Different tools for different jobs. Although, in the thread you
referenced, you said you were having major SMP problems with NBSD. I
hope you get those sorted. Those, I would think, are worse than any
network and vinum performance problems. In any event you may wish to
check back when 5.4 is released. (No release schedule yet.)
 
> Thanks for your kind assistance and best regards,

>Jochen Keil

You're welcome and see you on the 'net.

stheg

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RE: is there a way to browse the ports tree

2005-01-19 Thread Jeffrey Bouquet
on WEDS S. wrote
>>  is there a way to browse the ports... 
  I had been using #/usr/ports/palm#find . -type f
-name pkg-descr -exec lookat {} \; HOWEVER in X11 that
would take HOURS. Better to a file:   #!/bin/zsh  
   ...for i in ` find . -type d -maxdepth 1 -print
`   do
   cat $i/pkg-descr >> /tmp/palmfile.cat; 
 echo $i >> /tmp/palmfile.cat;
   echo +
>> palmfile.cat;  done
 chmod 644 filename.zsh; FIRST
touch /tmp/palmfile.cat and FIRST edit the
filename.zsh to (a portdir)file.catJust got this
working today, 1 19 05 pm... btw /lookat/ is in ports,
excellent...  Jeff Bouquet




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Re: X: wrong resolution

2005-01-19 Thread Oliver Fuchs
On Wed, 19 Jan 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi everyone,   
> I have a box with FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE.   
>   
> I'm configuring the X Server and I have some  
> problems with the resolution.  
>   
> When X starts I get the wrong resolution. I run  
> xvidtune in the console and then I press "Next" in  
> the window that opens, till I get the right  
> resolution (1024x768). So, everything looks alright  
> for a while. The problem is that when I restart the  
> X server the screen is set back to the wrong  
> resolution.   
>   
> what do i do?  

Hi,
if you get the right solution with xvidtune hit the show button and you get
in your term a line like:
"1024x768" 94.50   1024 1092 1188 1376768  769  772  808 +hsync +vsync
I added this to my /etc/X11/xorg.conf in section monitor (like this):

[...]
Section "Monitor"
ModeLine "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" 94.5 1024 1092 1188 1376 768 769 772 
808 +hsync +vsync
Identifier   "Monitor0"
VendorName   "NEC"
ModelName"NEC FE700"
[...]

Oliver
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2005-01-19 Thread uday kumar
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Re: Can I set priorities for file transfers

2005-01-19 Thread Brian John
Miguel Mendez wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 08:23:58 -0600 (CST)
"Brian John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi,
 

Hello,
I have (I think) kind of a unique question.  I leave my home computer
on all day and transfer and share files via a P2P application. 
However, sometimes I like to ssh in from work and transfer files
between my work PC and my home PC via scp.  Right now it is really
slow because it is transferring so much with the P2P apps, that it
uses up all of my bandwidth.  Is there any way that I can put a
priority on this so that it gives me the majority of my bandwidth when
I want to use scp?
   

The first thing I'd do is throttle the upload on your p2p program, so
you don't eat all your b/w. You don't mention which p2p it is, but amule
let's you do it and some BitTorrent clients have the option too.
Then you could use QoS, either using IPFW or PF. With PF I'd prioritize
empty ACKs and then create a queue for ssh with guaranteed b/w. There
are plenty of PF tutorials and FAQs out there with examples. Daniel's
page has a lot of info on PF (http://www.benzedrine.cx/pf.html). Note
that PF is a FreeBSD 5.x-only feature. It's been ported to NetBSD and
DragonFlyBSD as well, and it's part of OpenBSD.
Cheers,
 

Ok, I got pf setup.  However, now I need to add ALTQ support to the 
kernel somehow?  Is that right?  If so, how can I do this?

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Re: NAT/DNS question/recommendation?

2005-01-19 Thread Tom Huppi

On Wed, 19 Jan 2005, Erik Norgaard wrote:

Tom Huppi wrote:



> So, what do you use for firewall/nat? ipfw/ipf/pf? I think I can
> help you with ipf, if you use something else then I'm sure
> someone can help you once they know they have the knowledge you
> need.

user-ppp has it's own firewall implementation which is separate
from the above three mentioned.  That's what I'm using.  I'd have
to use it anyway to get dial-bound rules, and its other
capabilities are sufficient for my basic needs:
...
# And outgoing icmp
 set filter out 14 permit 0 0 icmp
...
# And the remote host can ping the local gateway (only)
 set filter in  10 permit 0/0  MYADDR icmp src eq 8
...
that sort of thing.


> While your filter rules might be long, the nat rules should be quite
> simple, and typically it's nat that causes problems, so please post that.

You'r right.  They are extreamly simple:

 nat enable yes  (in ppp.conf)

There is also an 'enable dns' entry which I may play around with
some more.  In fact, I'll have to if I...see last para...


> >>ssh delays? did you try to type in the ip to see if it was faster?
> >
> > Yup.  No change.  I should have mentioned that for sure.
>
> This is really important because this suggests that there is no problem
> with your resolv.conf or other named configuration files.

I'm not using named...yet


> >>I think I get the picture of your network but sometimes it helps a lot
> >>if you scetch the network with a ascii-diagram, add ip's etc.
> >
> >
> >  - 172...20
> >  ip-by-ppp  |  - 172...8
> >|| |
> >  net <-> gw <-> srvr
> >   |  | |
> > info,   u-ppp, dfrtr:isp's dns server
> > porn,   w/fw   /etc/hosts: 8  srvr.made-up-dom srvr
> > trash,  w/nat. ...20  gw.made-up-dom gw
> > etc.defrt set  /e/nsswitch.conf: files dns
> >  by uppp.
> > no ipv6ipv6 (and 4)
>
> Ah, I see, dfrtr is default router? It shouldn't be the isp but the
> internal ip of your gw. Otherwise you might get some strange behaviour
> (which you seem to have).

Typo in the diagram. 'srvr's defaultrouter is ...20, and it's
resolv.conf specifies my ISP's nameserver.  My now long gone
text was more accurate.


> > I just realized that I am setting 'defaultdomain' in the server's
> > /etc/rc.conf in spite of the fact that I'm not currently running
> > NIS in my local network.  I'll try getting rid of that to see if
> > it helps.
>
> Note that nis domain and dns domain is _not_ the same. Setting your
> default domain in rc.conf sets the nis default domain, and has
> absolutely nothing to do with dns.

Yes and possibly no.  I believe that it can have an influence on
how the system tries to resolve hostsnames (since Sun wanted like
hell for people to use NIS for this purpose decades ago before
security was a consideration...), but I doubt that it's the
problem here.  In fact, I can now say that it isn't.
(nsswitch.conf man on some systems mentions this...dunno if the
capability even exists on xBSD systems.)


> > BTW, here's the salient part of a tcpdump on the tun0 interface
> > when I ssh from 'gw' to 'srvr':
> >
> >  10:32:36.698042 IP gila.62914 > king.dialoregon.net.domain:
> > 63948+ PTR? 20.0.16.172.in-addr.arpa. (42)
> >  10:32:36.990638 IP king.dialoregon.net.domain > gila.62914:
> > 63948 NXDomain 0/1/0 (119)
>
> Ok, sorry, I'm used to snort output, but good idea, try sniff and dump
> so you can see what happens in slow.

What happens is, 'gila' (aka 'srvr') tries to do a reverse dns
lookup and hangs until it times out or until it gets back a reply.
'non-existant domain' in this case.  The funny thing is that once
it gets even _this_ response it happily proceeds.  I don't know
what it _would_ be unhappy about...it makes the whole test seem
rather pointless in addition to being frustrating from my
standpoint.

The interesting thing is, as I mentioned, when PPP is completely
shut down the 'srvr' doesn't seem to even try this reverse DNS
lookup silliness (or else maybe it just fails miserably and
silently right away.)  That makes me think that maybe there is
some method of inducing PPP to lie to it's clients (for lack of a
better term) about it's status when it is active but not on-line.


> > So 'srvr' is looking up 'gw's IP when it _thinks_ there is access
> > to a DNS server.  That's what I thought.  Question is, 'how to
> > make it stop?'
>
> >
> > Here's my /etc/hosts:
> > ---
> > ::1 localhost localhost.huppih.com
> > 127.0.0.1   localhost localhost.huppih.com
> >
> > 172.16.0.8 gila.huppih.com gila 172.16.0.20 agama.huppih.com agama
>
> Typo or copy/paste error? One ip per line. In the above 172.16.0.20
> becomes an alias for 172.16.0.8 (if it makes sense at all).

Yup, another typo...this time form re-formatting paragraphs.


> > Just knowing that someone has a similar setup and it works would
> > be of significant help since it would tell me if there even is a
> > solution

Re: FreeBSD I LOVE YOU

2005-01-19 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Matthias Buelow writes:

MB> And where do you think would they "find" this "junk PC"?

The first world could send it to them, instead of throwing perfectly
good PCs into a landfill.

MB> Don't you think that's a bit condescending?

No, I think it's pretty realistic.  Right now a lot of completely
usable PCs go into the trash.  Why not put them back to work instead?
The most obvious way to use them is for people and organizations that
cannot afford to buy new machines, and the Third World contains more
such people and places than the First World.  It makes a lot more sense
than trying to sell them Microsoft Longhorn at $400 a pop and requiring
them to spend $1000 each on PCs powerful enough to run that OS.  Of
course, in some countries they just pirate the software, but they still
need hefty hardware to run it, and that cannot be pirated.

MB> They can perfectly well buy new machines at local retailers (there
MB> are some in bigger cities) for a fraction of the money that it would
MB> take you to ship'em your old rustbucket.

I wasn't suggesting doing this on an individual basis, but in a more
organized way.  Additionally, they can recycle their _own_ machines in
this way, since for every person with a PC today in the Third World,
there are 100 or more without one.  If you have an OS that will run on
anything, you can continue to use the older PCs indefinitely.  If
everyone has to run Windows XP SP2, then the older PCs will just gather
dust, even though many people still may not have a PC.

All of this applies in the developed countries, too, of course.  Why
throw away two-year-old PCs when you can use them for something else?
Indeed, I wonder where all these PCs are going, since people "upgrade"
constantly.  You'd think there'd be a huge used-PC market, but I hardly
ever hear of anyone buying a used PC (and if one is running bloated OS
or application software, sometimes only the fastest thing on the block
will do).

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ftp/fetch can not connect to ftp sites.

2005-01-19 Thread Lucas Holt
I am running FreeBSD 5.3 Release p4, upgraded from 5.2.1.  Prior to 5.3 
p4, I was able to use command line ftp and fetch to access ftp sites.  
Since the upgrade I have not been able to.  I can not connect to 
ftp.freebsd.org (or mirrors), ftp.x.org, etc.  Any port using an http 
server works fine using portupgrade, but with about 30 ports to upgrade 
its kind of annoying to manually fetch files :)

I do have ipfw setup and running.  It is possible that it is a config 
issue with ipfw, but I am doubtful.  The kernel does not have inet6 
(ip6) compiled in and occasionally I see the ftp client resolving ip6 
addresses which I find odd.  It often does this resolving 
ftp.freebsd.org which I think is hosted at ISC.  I've tried ipfw 
disable firewall and kldunload'ing the ipfw extension in the kernel.  I 
can connect to ftp sites using firefox in x11 and from Linux & windows 
on the same box with the same ip defined.  My cable modem router has 
this system setup as the dmz.  I looked at the fetch man page and it 
has an environment variable (man 3 fetch)  FTP_PASSIVE_MODE.  I've 
toggled this to yes and no in the environment with no effect.

Also, I happen to have ip_portrange_first and ip_portrange_last set in 
/etc/rc.conf to 4000 and 8000 respectively.  The system has a custom 
built kernel with SMP enabled as I have a dual xeon w/ htt disabled.

I am at a loss why this is not working.  Since I got the cable modem, 
I've noticed that pasv mode connections are flaky and i usually have to 
switch to port in windows ftp apps especially if the server on the 
other end is behind a firewall.  I've tried toying with command line 
flags to ftp also.  Sometimes -4 -A -a will get me into some ftp 
servers command line.

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated!  I'm no longer subscribed to 
questions, so please CC me!   Thanks.

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Re: FreeBSD I LOVE YOU

2005-01-19 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Giorgos Keramidas writes:

GK> I've seen Windows machines "lose" CD-ROM or floppy drives, on perfectly
GK> working systems.  You may find that booting the installation CD-ROM of
GK> some FreeBSD version locates the floppy drive just fine.

The problem is external to Windows.  The machine won't even boot off a
diskette.  The floppy drive makes the usual noises as the BIOS goes
through its paces, but then the BIOS says that the diskette isn't there.
It's frustrating.  The machine is so old and has been so reliable that I
don't remember much about configuring the BIOS, and I have no idea where
the documentation is now.  It _seems_ like the diskette drive may have a
problem, but I'm not sure.

GK> Your best choise may be to install by physically moving the disk to an
GK> other system.  Then you can return the disk to the Vectra system and let
GK> it boot.

No other systems available currently, alas.  And this machine has SCSI
drives; the other machines have cheaper IDE or SATA drives.

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Re: FreeBSD I LOVE YOU

2005-01-19 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Mike Jeays writes:

MJ> I presume you have tried changing the boot order in the BIOS settings?
MJ> You should be able to make the CD or floppy drive come ahead of the hard
MJ> disk in the boot sequence.

Yes, I've tried lots of stuff.  It's a HP motherboard and apparently a
HP BIOS.  I've tried all sorts of variations on boot order and enabling
and disabling of boot devices.  The structure of the BIOS options makes
it clear that it should be possible to boot selectively from either
diskette or CD, but I can't get either of these to work; it won't boot
from CD unless diskette boot is also activated, and it won't boot from
diskette because it says it cannot see the floppy disk reader.  I don't
know what's going on.  The machine has been running for so long that I
don't remember much about how to configure the BIOS!

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Re: Security for webserver behind router?

2005-01-19 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Jay O'Brien writes:

JOB> Thanks, but what I want to know is what risk I have with port 80,
JOB> and only port 80 open. 

The risk depends on Apache, since that's the daemon answering the phone
when someone calls in on port 80.

Just make sure you're using the latest version of Apache (1.3.33, if you
want the 1.x version, or 2.0.52, if you want the 2.x version).  Some
earlier versions are vulnerable.  As long as Apache is secure, port 80
can be open.

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Re: FreeBSD I LOVE YOU

2005-01-19 Thread John Koepke
> Since we're posting specs and such, my P3 800MHz. w/ 256 RAM does all I
> ask of it, with plenty of room to spare.

I have a few machines running FreeBSD.  The first is a AMD 766mhz.
With about 768 Megs of ram.  This box is used as a Nat / Firewall /
Dansguardian (AV) Proxy / Secondary DNS server / DHCP server.  I Then
Have a P4 2.4 gig box with about 512 megs of ram that serves as my web
/ webmail / email / Primary DNS server.  This box also runs PHP,
Apache, Squirrelmail, MySQL. and a few other scripts and tools.  The
third box is a  1 gig AMD T-bird.  This is just a test webserver with
a few cool tools and utilities on it.  It also monitors the APC UPS
that is at the bottom of the rack.  If Power goes out, I get emails
about it, and if time starts to run out, it will shutdown the other 2
servers 1 by 1.  I have been using NX systems for about 6 or 7 years
now.  I learn more and more each and everyday.  And thanks to people
on the FreeBSD mailing List, I have been able to fix any issues that I
have come across.

Not only is the OS a great OS, but this list helps me to keep it
running smooth,  and figure out new ways to accomplish complicated
tasks.  Thank you.
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Re: Security for webserver behind router?

2005-01-19 Thread Jay O'Brien
RW wrote:

> On Wednesday 19 January 2005 07:21, Jay O'Brien wrote:
> 
>>I've brought up a 5.3 Release machine as a learning tool,
>>with apache 1.3. It is on a LAN with Windows machines, and
>>port 80 (and only port 80) is open and directed by the
>>Linksys router to the FreeBSD machine. It is working fine so
>>far, but my learning curve is slower than I would like.
>>
>>I know that there's lots to learn and do later about
>>security, when I bypass the Router and use the FreeBSD box
>>as the NAT device, but for now I would like to confine my
>>learning to Apache, with only port 80 open. I do have ftp
>>and ssh enabled on the LAN for access by the Windows boxes.
>>
>>As I haven't done anything for security on the FreeBSD
>>machine, am I exposed to anything by having port 80 open? Is
>>there anything I should do now?
> 
> 
> It's in the nature of any webserver software that it provides rich picking 
> for 
> hackers.
> 
> If it's a learning tool, don't expose apache to the internet, you can test it 
> perfectly well from your local network. If you want to access it from a 
> remote location, then setup your FreeBSD firewall to allow access from a 
> limited range of ip addresses.
> 

Thanks, but what I want to know is what risk I have with port 80, 
and only port 80 open. 

Jay 



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Re: Enabling Dell Inspiron 1150 touch pad?

2005-01-19 Thread John Birrell
On Thu, Jan 20, 2005 at 10:27:54AM +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
> For the benefit of others: this laptop requires a device flag for the
> touch pad.  This change is needed in /boot/device.hints:
> 
>--- /boot/device.hints  2004/11/05 01:27:17 1.1
>+++ /boot/device.hints  2005/01/19 17:36:23
>@@ -27,6 +27,8 @@
> hint.atkbd.0.irq="1"
> hint.psm.0.at="atkbdc"
> hint.psm.0.irq="12"
>+# Needed on Inspiron 1150
>+hint.psm.0.flags="0x1000"
> hint.vga.0.at="isa"
> hint.sc.0.at="isa"
> hint.sc.0.flags="0x100"

I'm a bit slow off the mark. Yep. Add them flags!

I do it in /etc/rc.conf with:

moused_flags="-3"

It's not the same value, I know, but the touchpad works for me on the 1150
with that setting. YMMV. 8-)

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usbd: Executing umount: Device not configured

2005-01-19 Thread Alexander Anderson
Greetings all,

I have a Sony DSC-P32 digital camera with a USB interface. I can't get
usbd to unmount the camera when it's disconnected, powered off, or
detached.

I have to remember to execute umount(8) manually before the camera is
physically disconnected, or else it stays mounted to a stale device forever
(which makes it impossible to use the camera again until a reboot), and an
attempt to forcibly unmount the stale device causes the kernel to panic.

The relevant entry in /etc/usbd.conf:

device "Sony DSC"
vendor  0x054c
product 0x0010
attach "sleep 1 ; /sbin/mount_msdosfs /dev/da0s1 /mnt/camera"
detach "/sbin/umount /dev/da0s1"

It mounts without problems. But when I disconnect the camera, here's what
I see (the output was obtained from usbd -dvv):

umass0: at uhub1 port 1 (addr 2) disconnected
(da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): lost device
umass0: detached
usbd: processing event queue on /dev/usb
usbd: device-detach event at 1106184871.250725000, DSC cameras, Sony:
  vndr=0x054c prdct=0x0010 rlse=0x0450 clss=0x subclss=0x prtcl=0x
usbd: Found action 'Sony DSC' for DSC cameras, Sony
usbd: action 0: Sony DSC
  vndr=0x054c prdct=0x0010
  attach='sleep 1 ; /sbin/mount_msdosfs /dev/da0s1 /mnt/camera'
  detach='/sbin/umount /dev/da0s1'
usbd: Executing '/sbin/umount /dev/da0s1'
umount: unmount of /mnt/camera failed: Device not configured
usbd: '/sbin/umount /dev/da0s1' returned 1

Not so long ago upgraded from 4.9-RELEASE to 5.3-RELEASE, and this
configuration used to work before, but not now.

I'm wondering if usbd can execute the detach command before the special
device has disappeared, not after the fact, as it seems to be.

And I'm also wondering, why does "/sbin/umount -f /dev/da0s1" when
/dev/da0s1 does not exist cause a kernel panic? Though, I wouldn't care
about it if all worked without this hitch.
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RE: Re[4]: Connection via proxy

2005-01-19 Thread Mervin McDougall
sorry that was a typo, I updated /etc/resolv.conf and
it still did not work. Is there anything else that I
need to configure?

--- Hauan David A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mervin McDougall
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 4:22 PM
> > To: Hexren
> > Cc: freebsd questions
> > Subject: Re: Re[4]: Connection via proxy
> > 
> > 
> > tried updating the /etc/resolve.conf with the ips
> of
> > the nameservers I got from windows XP but got the
> same
> > results after trying to run mozilla .. that the
> proxy
> > server could not be found.
> > 
> 
> if you updated /etc/resolve.conf it won't work!
> drop the 'e' off resolve
> 
> dave
> 
> 
> 
> > --- Hexren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > MM> the laptop is a dual boot running windows XP
> on
> > > one
> > > MM> slice and Freebsd 5.3 on another slice.
> > > 
> > > MM> I tried pinging the proxy server but got
> this
> > > error
> > > MM> message
> > > 
> > > MM> can't resolve proxy.uvi.edu  host name look
> up
> > > failure
> > > MM> proxy.uvi.edu being the name of the proxy
> server
> > > 
> > > MM> --- Hexren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > 
> > > >> MM> Can you identify some other tests as well
> I
> > > >> could
> > > >> MM> possible run other than pinging as I am
> going
> > > to
> > > >> have
> > > >> MM> to reboot on each occurence to try see if
> > > >> freebsd can
> > > >> MM> see that server and connect to it
> > > >> 
> > > >> 
> > > >> >> 
> > > >> >>
> -
> > > >> >> 
> > > >> >> You can ping the Proxy from the Notebook ?
> > > >> >> 
> > > >> >> Hexren
> > > >> >> 
> > > >> >> 
> > > >> 
> > > >> 
> > > >> 
> > > >> -
> > > >> 
> > > >> Your message doesn't parse. Why do you have
> to
> > > >> reboot the machine ? Each
> > > >> time ?
> > > >> I just wanted to know, if at the point where
> > > mozilla
> > > >> says it
> > > >> can't find the proxy you can ping the proxy
> using
> > > >> DNS name or IP.
> > > >> 
> > > >> Regards (I really should look up some nice
> way to
> > > >> finish a mail in
> > > >> english)
> > > >> 
> > > >> Hexren
> > > >> 
> > > >> 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > MM> __
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> > > MM> Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do
> we.
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> > > (Start->Run type "cmd" in
> > > the shell opening type "ipconfig /all")
> > > 
> > > Then insert that DNS server into your
> > > /etc/resolv.conf under FreeBSD
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Open Sound System

2005-01-19 Thread Gerard Seibert
I have seen OSS from opensound.org mentioned here a few times. I have
not been able to locate it in the 'ports tree'. Would I be correct in
assuming that it is not available there, but rather only by downloading
it directly from opensound.org directly?

Thanks!

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Re: gmirror: replacing failed disks

2005-01-19 Thread Christian Hiris
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On Wednesday 19 January 2005 22:53, you wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 19, 2005 at 06:55:53AM +0100, Christian Hiris wrote:

[...]

> >
> > 2.2. Blank out gmirror metadata on ad4
> >  # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad4 bs=512 skip=156301400
>
> This command took "a long time" and I didn't let it complete.  I use the
> tcsh and would occassionaly hit  T to track it's progress.  I
> didn't see it writing data to the disk nor did I see disk activity.  Did
> I not wait long enough?

Ooops, I just realized that option 'skip=n' skips the blocks on the *input* 
file. The correct option to "skip" blocks on the outfile is 'seek=n'. It 
didn't damage anything in our case, but it waisted your time. Sorry about 
this  mistaken option and the time you lost from this. The command's only 
purpose is to re-design the drive, as if it hasn't ever faced the gmirror 
framework before. 
   
Just for the archives the corrected (and double-checked) command: 

   2.2. Blank out gmirror metadata on ad4
# dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad4 bs=512 seek=n
where n=(metadata_location_in_bytes/512)-1

[...]

> Christian,
>
> Other than the issue with 2.2 above, the procedure worked and the
> "replacement" drive is now synchronizing.  Now I'll print out a
> transcript of this and tape it to the box,  Then, in three years, when a
> drive dies, I'll remember what to do :)
>
> Thanks again for all your help.

Just in case, if the tape fails :)

   http://freebsd.rambler.ru

It's excellent!

Good luck,
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RE: Are you also tired of the AOL guy?

2005-01-19 Thread Derik Wilson
Hi,  I haven't posted anything up until this point.  I think we all need to
group hug!  =D  Someone sounds a little ticked off!

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Subject: Are you also tired of the AOL guy?

Dear [EMAIL PROTECTED],

I'm tired of your bullshit. Not only you have no friggin' idea of what
you talk about 90% of the time, but you never provide a solution for 
those 'problems' you claim to have with FreeBSD 5.3.

That [EMAIL PROTECTED] guy may be a moron, but at least he doesn't
claim to be a kernel guru like you've done. Of course, you haven't 
submitted any patch to fix those deficiencies present in FreeBSD but 
expect, in a classic Brett Glass style, that someone will step in and 
do the job for you. Sorry, it doesn't work that way. Put up or shut up.

To the people who have suggested that he takes a look at DragonFlyBSD. 
Please, DON'T. The last thing DFly needs is someone like this guy. There 
was some ocasional trolling on the lists in the past (mainly performed by 
Bosko) but it's been a very nice place so far.

Instead, my suggestion is that you team up with Dag-Erling Smorgrav. Both 
of you love to make condescending remarks and both of you suffer from 
chronic asshole-ism. You're going to be very good friends.

Bash.


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RE: Re[4]: Connection via proxy

2005-01-19 Thread Hauan David A
> -Original Message-
> From: Mervin McDougall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 4:22 PM
> To: Hexren
> Cc: freebsd questions
> Subject: Re: Re[4]: Connection via proxy
> 
> 
> tried updating the /etc/resolve.conf with the ips of
> the nameservers I got from windows XP but got the same
> results after trying to run mozilla .. that the proxy
> server could not be found.
> 

if you updated /etc/resolve.conf it won't work!
drop the 'e' off resolve

dave



> --- Hexren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > MM> the laptop is a dual boot running windows XP on
> > one
> > MM> slice and Freebsd 5.3 on another slice.
> > 
> > MM> I tried pinging the proxy server but got this
> > error
> > MM> message
> > 
> > MM> can't resolve proxy.uvi.edu  host name look up
> > failure
> > MM> proxy.uvi.edu being the name of the proxy server
> > 
> > MM> --- Hexren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > >> MM> Can you identify some other tests as well I
> > >> could
> > >> MM> possible run other than pinging as I am going
> > to
> > >> have
> > >> MM> to reboot on each occurence to try see if
> > >> freebsd can
> > >> MM> see that server and connect to it
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> >> 
> > >> >> -
> > >> >> 
> > >> >> You can ping the Proxy from the Notebook ?
> > >> >> 
> > >> >> Hexren
> > >> >> 
> > >> >> 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> -
> > >> 
> > >> Your message doesn't parse. Why do you have to
> > >> reboot the machine ? Each
> > >> time ?
> > >> I just wanted to know, if at the point where
> > mozilla
> > >> says it
> > >> can't find the proxy you can ping the proxy using
> > >> DNS name or IP.
> > >> 
> > >> Regards (I really should look up some nice way to
> > >> finish a mail in
> > >> english)
> > >> 
> > >> Hexren
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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> > I would guess that you haven't configured DNS under
> > FreeBSD.
> > 
> > 
> > Lookup the nameserver you use with WinXP.
> > (Start->Run type "cmd" in
> > the shell opening type "ipconfig /all")
> > 
> > Then insert that DNS server into your
> > /etc/resolv.conf under FreeBSD
> > The line should look like
> > "nameserver "
> > 
> > 
> > Hexren
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Re: My 'ls' is all messed up?!

2005-01-19 Thread Matthias Buelow
Happens sometimes to me when some characters from a binary file are
displayed on the screen as is.   Or, some other stty(1) setting.
Typing reset/tset(1) or closing-and-/opening another xterm(1) works
for me.  Xterm i say for that i use most than console.
or ctrl+ in xterm, which pops up a menu, from which you can 
select "full reset".
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Re: Re[4]: Connection via proxy

2005-01-19 Thread Mervin McDougall
tried updating the /etc/resolve.conf with the ips of
the nameservers I got from windows XP but got the same
results after trying to run mozilla .. that the proxy
server could not be found.

--- Hexren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> MM> the laptop is a dual boot running windows XP on
> one
> MM> slice and Freebsd 5.3 on another slice. 
> 
> MM> I tried pinging the proxy server but got this
> error
> MM> message
> 
> MM> can't resolve proxy.uvi.edu  host name look up
> failure
> MM> proxy.uvi.edu being the name of the proxy server
> 
> MM> --- Hexren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >> MM> Can you identify some other tests as well I
> >> could
> >> MM> possible run other than pinging as I am going
> to
> >> have
> >> MM> to reboot on each occurence to try see if
> >> freebsd can
> >> MM> see that server and connect to it
> >> 
> >> 
> >> >> 
> >> >> -
> >> >> 
> >> >> You can ping the Proxy from the Notebook ?
> >> >> 
> >> >> Hexren
> >> >> 
> >> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> -
> >> 
> >> Your message doesn't parse. Why do you have to
> >> reboot the machine ? Each
> >> time ?
> >> I just wanted to know, if at the point where
> mozilla
> >> says it
> >> can't find the proxy you can ping the proxy using
> >> DNS name or IP.
> >> 
> >> Regards (I really should look up some nice way to
> >> finish a mail in
> >> english)
> >> 
> >> Hexren
> >> 
> >> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> I would guess that you haven't configured DNS under
> FreeBSD.
> 
> 
> Lookup the nameserver you use with WinXP.
> (Start->Run type "cmd" in
> the shell opening type "ipconfig /all")
> 
> Then insert that DNS server into your
> /etc/resolv.conf under FreeBSD
> The line should look like
> "nameserver "
> 
> 
> Hexren
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Re: Security for webserver behind router?

2005-01-19 Thread RW
On Wednesday 19 January 2005 07:21, Jay O'Brien wrote:
> I've brought up a 5.3 Release machine as a learning tool,
> with apache 1.3. It is on a LAN with Windows machines, and
> port 80 (and only port 80) is open and directed by the
> Linksys router to the FreeBSD machine. It is working fine so
> far, but my learning curve is slower than I would like.
>
> I know that there's lots to learn and do later about
> security, when I bypass the Router and use the FreeBSD box
> as the NAT device, but for now I would like to confine my
> learning to Apache, with only port 80 open. I do have ftp
> and ssh enabled on the LAN for access by the Windows boxes.
>
> As I haven't done anything for security on the FreeBSD
> machine, am I exposed to anything by having port 80 open? Is
> there anything I should do now?

It's in the nature of any webserver software that it provides rich picking for 
hackers.

If it's a learning tool, don't expose apache to the internet, you can test it 
perfectly well from your local network. If you want to access it from a 
remote location, then setup your FreeBSD firewall to allow access from a 
limited range of ip addresses.

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Re: FreeBSD I LOVE YOU

2005-01-19 Thread Matthias Buelow
Anthony Atkielski wrote:
Indeed, someone in the Third World without the means to buy a new PC and
an expensive Windows license could find a junk PC and install FreeBSD on
And where do you think would they "find" this "junk PC"?
Don't you think that's a bit condescending?
Like, "let's give those negroes our old shoes"?
They can perfectly well buy new machines at local retailers (there are 
some in bigger cities) for a fraction of the money that it would take 
you to ship'em your old rustbucket.  Why don't you send some money instead?

mkb.
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Re: window managers don't work over ssh

2005-01-19 Thread Vulpes Velox
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:43:27 +
Xian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I cant seem to make any window manager work over ssh, but they all
> work locally. I am using Xorg now, and i didn't have this problem
> with XFree86.
> 
> I start X with just xterm for testing:
> 
>  startx /usr/X11R6/bin/xterm
> 
> and then type
> 
>  ssh -CXf my.home.machine twm
> 
> in the xterm and it tells me it cant find any unmanaged screens.
> 
> Ive no idea whats doing wrong because other X apps work over ssh and
> window managers work locally.
> 
> Any help much appreciated.

Not sure of what it would be, but the freebsd x11 mailing list would
probally be useful. Also trying a xorg specific list may be useful.

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Re: Detecting CD devices

2005-01-19 Thread Trey Sizemore
On Wed, 2005-01-19 at 16:06 -0500, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
> What device are those applications looking for?  
> 
> Perhaps (just a guess) they're looking for /dev/cdrom or /dev/cd0 and
> you only have /dev/acd0?

I'm not sure.  I thought I remember there being a way to 'alias' the
devices such that /dev/cdrom, /dev/dvd, etc. could point to the same
device such that programs would find them.  Is this the case?  How would
fstab look?

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Re: Enabling Dell Inspiron 1150 touch pad?

2005-01-19 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Wednesday, 19 January 2005 at 17:11:07 -0600, Hauan David A wrote:
> On  Wednesday, January 19, 2005 2:36 PM, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
>>
>> I've just installed 5.3-RELEASE on an Inspiron 1150 (some of
>> you will have seen my questions about this machine a couple
>> of weeks ago).  I can't get the touch pad to work.  I've
>> tried installing a -CURRENT (as of yesterday) kernel, and
>> there's no improvement.  The relevant parts of the dmesg
>> (from a verbose boot) appear to be:
>>
>>   psmcpnp0:  at irq 12 on isa0
>>   psm0: current command byte:0065
>>   psm0: the aux port is not functioning (-1).
>>
>> The complete dmesg is at http://www.lemis.com/grog/dmesg.
>>
>> Before I go digging, has anybody else seen something like
>> this?  Any ideas where to look?
>
> http://www.rdegraaf.nl/index.asp?sND_ID=487235

Thanks!  That did the trick.  I now have:

  psm0:  flags 0x1000 irq 12 on atkbdc0
  psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
  psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0


For the benefit of others: this laptop requires a device flag for the
touch pad.  This change is needed in /boot/device.hints:

   --- /boot/device.hints  2004/11/05 01:27:17 1.1
   +++ /boot/device.hints  2005/01/19 17:36:23
   @@ -27,6 +27,8 @@
hint.atkbd.0.irq="1"
hint.psm.0.at="atkbdc"
hint.psm.0.irq="12"
   +# Needed on Inspiron 1150
   +hint.psm.0.flags="0x1000"
hint.vga.0.at="isa"
hint.sc.0.at="isa"
hint.sc.0.flags="0x100"

The web page also talks about putting start parameters for moused into
/etc/rc.conf; I don't think this is necessary.  I suspect that you
just need to remove the line:

   moused_enable="NO"

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Re[6]: Can´t access a box remotely

2005-01-19 Thread Hexren
MB> Hexren:

MB> Also I have another question:

MB> If you look at the handbook it states that if you use ppp, you need to
MB> put router_enable="NO" in rc.conf, because if you enable routed, it
MB> can delete the routes added by ppp. The problem is that if I put
MB> router_enable="NO" in rc.conf, i cant access my box from outside, and
MB> this time is not a dyndns related issue. I don´t have idea that what
MB> could be the cause of this situation. Does it seems familiar to you???

MB> Thank you for all your help!!!

MB> Mauricio.


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No it does not.
In my experience just using 'gateway_enable="yes"' is sufficient for
bringing a private LAN online.

Hexren

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Re: FreeBSD I LOVE YOU

2005-01-19 Thread Sergei Gnezdov
> Since we're posting specs and such, my P3 800MHz. w/ 256 RAM does all I 
> ask of it, with plenty of room to spare.

AMD K6 350MHz
320 MB RAM

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Re[4]: Connection via proxy

2005-01-19 Thread Hexren
MM> the laptop is a dual boot running windows XP on one
MM> slice and Freebsd 5.3 on another slice. 

MM> I tried pinging the proxy server but got this error
MM> message

MM> can't resolve proxy.uvi.edu  host name look up failure
MM> proxy.uvi.edu being the name of the proxy server

MM> --- Hexren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> MM> Can you identify some other tests as well I
>> could
>> MM> possible run other than pinging as I am going to
>> have
>> MM> to reboot on each occurence to try see if
>> freebsd can
>> MM> see that server and connect to it
>> 
>> 
>> >> 
>> >> -
>> >> 
>> >> You can ping the Proxy from the Notebook ?
>> >> 
>> >> Hexren
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -
>> 
>> Your message doesn't parse. Why do you have to
>> reboot the machine ? Each
>> time ?
>> I just wanted to know, if at the point where mozilla
>> says it
>> can't find the proxy you can ping the proxy using
>> DNS name or IP.
>> 
>> Regards (I really should look up some nice way to
>> finish a mail in
>> english)
>> 
>> Hexren
>> 
>> 





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Lookup the nameserver you use with WinXP. (Start->Run type "cmd" in
the shell opening type "ipconfig /all")

Then insert that DNS server into your /etc/resolv.conf under FreeBSD
The line should look like
"nameserver "


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Re: Re[2]: Connection via proxy

2005-01-19 Thread Mervin McDougall
the laptop is a dual boot running windows XP on one
slice and Freebsd 5.3 on another slice. 

I tried pinging the proxy server but got this error
message

can't resolve proxy.uvi.edu  host name look up failure
proxy.uvi.edu being the name of the proxy server

--- Hexren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> MM> Can you identify some other tests as well I
> could
> MM> possible run other than pinging as I am going to
> have
> MM> to reboot on each occurence to try see if
> freebsd can
> MM> see that server and connect to it
> 
> 
> >> 
> >> -
> >> 
> >> You can ping the Proxy from the Notebook ?
> >> 
> >> Hexren
> >> 
> >> 
> 
> 
> 
> -
> 
> Your message doesn't parse. Why do you have to
> reboot the machine ? Each
> time ?
> I just wanted to know, if at the point where mozilla
> says it
> can't find the proxy you can ping the proxy using
> DNS name or IP.
> 
> Regards (I really should look up some nice way to
> finish a mail in
> english)
> 
> Hexren
> 
> 





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Re: Re[4]: Can´t access a box remotely

2005-01-19 Thread Mauricio Brunstein
Hexren:

Also I have another question:

If you look at the handbook it states that if you use ppp, you need to
put router_enable="NO" in rc.conf, because if you enable routed, it
can delete the routes added by ppp. The problem is that if I put
router_enable="NO" in rc.conf, i cant access my box from outside, and
this time is not a dyndns related issue. I don´t have idea that what
could be the cause of this situation. Does it seems familiar to you???

Thank you for all your help!!!

Mauricio.


On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 19:29:48 -0300, Mauricio Brunstein
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hexren:
> 
> Why do you say:
> 
> > As a quick workaround: In your ppp.conf delete the default profile and
> > rename your profile default. The remove the 'ppp_profile="my_isp"'
> > line from your rc.conf.
> 
> I actually want to dial to my_isp from rc.conf. If I delete the
> "default" profile, then I need to copy those 2 lines in that profile
> to the "my_isp" profile?
> 
> Than you again,
> 
> Mauricio
> 
> PD: This is my ppp.conf:
> 
> server:~ $ sudo cat /etc/ppp/ppp.conf
> default:
> set log Phase Chat IPCP CCP tun command
> set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.255
> 
> my_isp:
> set device PPPoE:fxp0 # replace fxp0 with your Ethernet device
> set mtu 1492
> set mru 1492
> enable mssfixup
> set ctsrts off
> set speed sync
> disable acfcomp protocomp
> deny acfcomp
> set authname 
> set authkey y
> add default HISADDR
> # enable lqr
> disable ipv6cp
> # set lqrperiod 5
> enable dns
> server:~ $
> 
> On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 23:02:26 +0100, Hexren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > MB> Hexren:
> >
> > MB> The pocess of PID 212 is ppp:
> >
> > MB> server:~ $ ps auxw|grep 212
> > MB>   root212  0.0  0.8  3240 2112  ??  Ss5:53PM   0:00.43 ppp
> > MB> -ddial default
> > MB> mauro   687  0.0  0.4  1472  892  p0  S+6:48PM   0:00.00 grep 212
> > MB> server:~ $
> >
> >
> > >>
> > >> -
> > >>
> > >> Wild guessing here:
> > >> Maybe the interface tun0 gets created when it is first called by
> > >> something refering to rc.conf. (It is in there isn't it ?). When ppp
> > >> the fires up it creates its own tun device, taking the next "free"
> > >> name which is tun1 as tun0 already exists and ppp can't know if it is
> > >> used by something else.
> > >> Try removing all references to tun0 from /etc/rc.conf
> > >>
> > >> Keep in mind that this is only a guess.
> > >> Also look at what hides behind PID 212. You can see in th output you
> > >> provided that tun0 was created by that PID.
> > >>
> > >> Hexren
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> > -
> >
> > It is not the reference.
> > When ppp is started it first tries to dial in using the profile named
> > default.
> > >"root212  ppp -ddial default"
> >
> > As a quick workaround: In your ppp.conf delete the default profile and
> > rename your profile default. The remove the 'ppp_profile="my_isp"'
> > line from your rc.conf.
> >
> > I am pretty shure there is a cleaner way to do this. But unfortunatly
> > I am unaware of it.
> >
> > Hexren
> >
>
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Re: FreeBSD I LOVE YOU

2005-01-19 Thread Tim
faisal gillani wrote:
hmmm exactly right .. u know i have a 750MHz Athalon
with 256MB ram .. & still my processor is 80% idle
most of the time ..
i also have some windows server on my network but
thats a compulsory rather then choice .

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wrote:
 

Jorn Argelo writes:
JA> Either way, I never want another server OS
again. This is great.
If I had to install a dozen more servers today, they
would all get
FreeBSD.  It makes extremely good use of whatever
hardware you care to
give it.  Indeed, FreeBSD can turn even junky old
PCs into productive
systems, since it is fast enough to do useful work
even with creaky old
hardware.  Of course, this is presumably true with
most versions of UNIX
(those without a GUI to support, at least), but
since my experience is
with FreeBSD and it has been uniformly positive,
I'll just continue with
that.  The thought of going back to a Windows server
now makes my teeth
chatter with terror--how awkward Windows servers
seem now!  (Then again,
they seemed awkward even back when I used them
regularly--have you ever
tried to maintain a distant Windows server over a
dial-up line with
pcAnywhere?)
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Since we're posting specs and such, my P3 800MHz. w/ 256 RAM does all I 
ask of it, with plenty of room to spare.

FreeBSD Extacy.homeip.net 5.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE #2: Sun Dec 19 
04:59:10 EST 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/EXTACY  i386

last pid: 77942;  load averages:  0.05,  0.09,  0.08up 2+17:49:55  
17:52:00
107 processes: 2 running, 104 sleeping, 1 zombie
CPU states:  4.7% user,  0.0% nice,  4.3% system,  1.2% interrupt, 89.9% 
idle
Mem: 89M Active, 49M Inact, 62M Wired, 9092K Cache, 34M Buf, 33M Free
Swap: 650M Total, 69M Used, 581M Free, 10% Inuse

Now, on this server I run:
PF & Nat, serving my entire internal LAN. It is my gateway from the DSL 
to my LAN.
Nfs client and server. It's my file and back up server.
Apache2 W/ PHP and SSl, it's my web server for various projects, and 
acts as a back up web server for a friends project.
MySql (For some database driven web projects, and for virtual domain 
e-mail.)
DNS - Zone authoritave and caching.
DHCP - For the times when I need to add another machine to lan quickly.
SMTP, IMAP, POP (and their Secure equivalents) - Handles e-mail for a 
few domains, probably ~5000 mails a day, with all the lists and groups 
some of these people are on. (Myself included).
Spam filtering.
SSh
VNC over SSh.
X.org & enlightenment (So I can use synergy, since the server and my 
workstation are right next to each other.)
A few eggdrop bots.
Top and PFTop are constantly running, so I can be constantly in awe of 
just how well this thing runs.
A few other random and various daemons for monitoring and the like.
All on a generic + PF kernel. I never did any real kernel tuning. That's 
next week's project.

- Niy.
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RE: Enabling Dell Inspiron 1150 touch pad?

2005-01-19 Thread Hauan David A


> -Original Message-
> From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 2:36 PM
> To: FreeBSD Questions
> Cc: FreeBSD mobile Mailing List
> Subject: Enabling Dell Inspiron 1150 touch pad?
> 
> 
> I've just installed 5.3-RELEASE on an Inspiron 1150 (some of 
> you will have seen my questions about this machine a couple 
> of weeks ago).  I can't get the touch pad to work.  I've 
> tried installing a -CURRENT (as of yesterday) kernel, and 
> there's no improvement.  The relevant parts of the dmesg 
> (from a verbose boot) appear to be:
> 
>   psmcpnp0:  at irq 12 on isa0
>   psm0: current command byte:0065
>   psm0: the aux port is not functioning (-1).
> 
> The complete dmesg is at http://www.lemis.com/grog/dmesg.
> 
> Before I go digging, has anybody else seen something like 
> this?  Any ideas where to look?
> 
> Greg
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Re[2]: Connection via proxy

2005-01-19 Thread Hexren
MM> Can you identify some other tests as well I could
MM> possible run other than pinging as I am going to have
MM> to reboot on each occurence to try see if freebsd can
MM> see that server and connect to it


>> 
>> -
>> 
>> You can ping the Proxy from the Notebook ?
>> 
>> Hexren
>> 
>> 



-

Your message doesn't parse. Why do you have to reboot the machine ? Each
time ?
I just wanted to know, if at the point where mozilla says it
can't find the proxy you can ping the proxy using DNS name or IP.

Regards (I really should look up some nice way to finish a mail in
english)

Hexren

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Re: Connection via proxy

2005-01-19 Thread Mervin McDougall
Can you identify some other tests as well I could
possible run other than pinging as I am going to have
to reboot on each occurence to try see if freebsd can
see that server and connect to it

--- Hexren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> MM> I recently had internet service enabled in my
> dorm and
> MM> was given instructions on how to configure my
> web
> MM> browser  to connect via the internet via a proxy
> MM> server for Windows XP. I was able to
> successfully set
> MM> up the internet connection for a the Windows
> side of
> MM> my dual boot Windows XP/FREEBSD laptop.
> 
> MM> Unfortunately I haven't been as successful on
> the
> MM> FreeBSD  side of my laptop. I have tried setting
> MM> mozilla to make use of the same proxy settings
> as I
> MM> used for IE on my windows XP but I am repeatedly
> told
> MM> that mozilla can not find the proxy server. 
> 
> MM> I am not sure if there is anything else that
> needs to
> MM> be configured to allow me to connect to the
> intenet
> MM> via this proxy server in FreeBSD. Can anyone
> give a
> MM> hand. I am currently running FreeBSD 5.3
> 
> 
> 
> -
> 
> You can ping the Proxy from the Notebook ?
> 
> Hexren
> 
> 




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Re[6]: CanŽt access a box remotely

2005-01-19 Thread Hexren
MB> Hexren:

MB> Why do you say:

>> As a quick workaround: In your ppp.conf delete the default profile and
>> rename your profile default. The remove the 'ppp_profile="my_isp"'
>> line from your rc.conf.

MB> I actually want to dial to my_isp from rc.conf. If I delete the
MB> "default" profile, then I need to copy those 2 lines in that profile
MB> to the "my_isp" profile?

MB> Than you again,

MB> Mauricio 

MB> PD: This is my ppp.conf:

---
No those 2 lines must not be copied.
Modify your ppp.conf so that it looks like

default:
set device PPPoE:fxp0 # replace fxp0 with your Ethernet device
set mtu 1492
set mru 1492
enable mssfixup
set ctsrts off
set speed sync
disable acfcomp protocomp
deny acfcomp
set authname 
set authkey y
add default HISADDR
# enable lqr
disable ipv6cp
#set lqrperiod 5
enable dns

and I just looked at my rc.conf and would now say that it should say
'ppp_profile="default"' then your connection should be made through
tun0.

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Re: CVSUP del INDEX file in ports

2005-01-19 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Wed, Jan 19, 2005 at 10:01:53PM +, RW wrote:
> On Tuesday 18 January 2005 12:58, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 18, 2005 at 10:48:28PM +1000, Warren wrote:
> > > is there a particular reason why the ports INDEX file is del each time
> > > cvsup is run and then re-d/l in a portupgrade ?
> >
> > Yes, see /usr/ports/UPDATING or the mailing list archives of ports@
> > for extensive discussion.
> 
> I haven't seen anything in UPDATING about portupgrade *downloading* an INDEX, 
> instead of building one, is that right? 

Well, you'd check the portupgrade documentation to find out about
that.  UPDATING explains how to deal with cvsup removing it.

Kris


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Enabling Dell Inspiron 1150 touch pad?

2005-01-19 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
I've just installed 5.3-RELEASE on an Inspiron 1150 (some of you will
have seen my questions about this machine a couple of weeks ago).  I
can't get the touch pad to work.  I've tried installing a -CURRENT (as
of yesterday) kernel, and there's no improvement.  The relevant parts
of the dmesg (from a verbose boot) appear to be:

  psmcpnp0:  at irq 12 on isa0
  psm0: current command byte:0065
  psm0: the aux port is not functioning (-1).

The complete dmesg is at http://www.lemis.com/grog/dmesg.

Before I go digging, has anybody else seen something like this?  Any
ideas where to look?

Greg
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Connection via proxy

2005-01-19 Thread Mervin McDougall
I recently had internet service enabled in my dorm and
was given instructions on how to configure my web
browser  to connect via the internet via a proxy
server for Windows XP. I was able to successfully set
up the internet connection for a the Windows side of
my dual boot Windows XP/FREEBSD laptop.

Unfortunately I haven't been as successful on the
FreeBSD  side of my laptop. I have tried setting
mozilla to make use of the same proxy settings as I
used for IE on my windows XP but I am repeatedly told
that mozilla can not find the proxy server. 

I am not sure if there is anything else that needs to
be configured to allow me to connect to the intenet
via this proxy server in FreeBSD. Can anyone give a
hand. I am currently running FreeBSD 5.3



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Re: Re[4]: Can´t access a box remotely

2005-01-19 Thread Mauricio Brunstein
Hexren:

Why do you say:

> As a quick workaround: In your ppp.conf delete the default profile and
> rename your profile default. The remove the 'ppp_profile="my_isp"'
> line from your rc.conf.

I actually want to dial to my_isp from rc.conf. If I delete the
"default" profile, then I need to copy those 2 lines in that profile
to the "my_isp" profile?

Than you again,

Mauricio 

PD: This is my ppp.conf:

server:~ $ sudo cat /etc/ppp/ppp.conf
default:
 set log Phase Chat IPCP CCP tun command
 set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.255

my_isp:
 set device PPPoE:fxp0 # replace fxp0 with your Ethernet device
 set mtu 1492
 set mru 1492
 enable mssfixup
 set ctsrts off
 set speed sync
 disable acfcomp protocomp
 deny acfcomp
 set authname 
 set authkey y
 add default HISADDR
# enable lqr
 disable ipv6cp
# set lqrperiod 5
 enable dns
server:~ $

 



On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 23:02:26 +0100, Hexren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> MB> Hexren:
> 
> MB> The pocess of PID 212 is ppp:
> 
> MB> server:~ $ ps auxw|grep 212
> MB>   root212  0.0  0.8  3240 2112  ??  Ss5:53PM   0:00.43 ppp
> MB> -ddial default
> MB> mauro   687  0.0  0.4  1472  892  p0  S+6:48PM   0:00.00 grep 212
> MB> server:~ $
> 
> 
> >>
> >> -
> >>
> >> Wild guessing here:
> >> Maybe the interface tun0 gets created when it is first called by
> >> something refering to rc.conf. (It is in there isn't it ?). When ppp
> >> the fires up it creates its own tun device, taking the next "free"
> >> name which is tun1 as tun0 already exists and ppp can't know if it is
> >> used by something else.
> >> Try removing all references to tun0 from /etc/rc.conf
> >>
> >> Keep in mind that this is only a guess.
> >> Also look at what hides behind PID 212. You can see in th output you
> >> provided that tun0 was created by that PID.
> >>
> >> Hexren
> >>
> >>
> 
> -
> 
> It is not the reference.
> When ppp is started it first tries to dial in using the profile named
> default.
> >"root212  ppp -ddial default"
> 
> As a quick workaround: In your ppp.conf delete the default profile and
> rename your profile default. The remove the 'ppp_profile="my_isp"'
> line from your rc.conf.
> 
> I am pretty shure there is a cleaner way to do this. But unfortunatly
> I am unaware of it.
> 
> Hexren
>
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Re[4]: Can´t access a box remotely

2005-01-19 Thread Hexren
MB> Hexren:

MB> The pocess of PID 212 is ppp:

MB> server:~ $ ps auxw|grep 212   
MB>   root212  0.0  0.8  3240 2112  ??  Ss5:53PM   0:00.43 ppp
MB> -ddial default
MB> mauro   687  0.0  0.4  1472  892  p0  S+6:48PM   0:00.00 grep 212
MB> server:~ $


>> 
>> -
>> 
>> Wild guessing here:
>> Maybe the interface tun0 gets created when it is first called by
>> something refering to rc.conf. (It is in there isn't it ?). When ppp
>> the fires up it creates its own tun device, taking the next "free"
>> name which is tun1 as tun0 already exists and ppp can't know if it is
>> used by something else.
>> Try removing all references to tun0 from /etc/rc.conf
>> 
>> Keep in mind that this is only a guess.
>> Also look at what hides behind PID 212. You can see in th output you
>> provided that tun0 was created by that PID.
>> 
>> Hexren
>> 
>>

-

It is not the reference.
When ppp is started it first tries to dial in using the profile named
default.
>"root212  ppp -ddial default"

As a quick workaround: In your ppp.conf delete the default profile and
rename your profile default. The remove the 'ppp_profile="my_isp"'
line from your rc.conf.

I am pretty shure there is a cleaner way to do this. But unfortunatly
I am unaware of it.

Hexren

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Re: CVSUP del INDEX file in ports

2005-01-19 Thread RW
On Tuesday 18 January 2005 12:58, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 18, 2005 at 10:48:28PM +1000, Warren wrote:
> > is there a particular reason why the ports INDEX file is del each time
> > cvsup is run and then re-d/l in a portupgrade ?
>
> Yes, see /usr/ports/UPDATING or the mailing list archives of ports@
> for extensive discussion.

I haven't seen anything in UPDATING about portupgrade *downloading* an INDEX, 
instead of building one, is that right? 
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Re: NAT/DNS question/recommendation?

2005-01-19 Thread Erik Norgaard
Tom Huppi wrote:
I mean one runs NAT, and the other uses it.  I've searched various
things and have run into subtle refernences which seem related to
my problem (like 'gethostbyname' isn't even supposed to consult
/etc/hosts), but nothing specific.
Yeah, I sort of guessed that, I was thinking that if you were googling 
then you should probably search for "freebsd gateway ppp nat". The 
common lingo is that your "NAT-server" is a gateway/firewall and the 
"NAT-client" is a host.

I think I did mention that the firewall and NAT are as implemented
in user-PPP.  I could post my rule-set, but it would take a good
bit of space.  Clearly DNS requests from 'the-machine-using-NAT-
but-not-running-it' are dialbound-accept (either that, or
user-ppp's firewall is broken.)  That is not to say I know these
rules are correct, and in fact I had played around with this
aspect of the rules earlier to try to aviod spurious dials
associated with a windows 'machine-using-NAT', but unless there is
a known mechanism associated with the rules which would cause the
unhappiness I'm experiancing, it seems a waste of space.
OK, let me say first that since I have a permanent connection I haven't 
messed much with ppp, but this doesn't seem to be your problem. The 
soluitons I have heard of uses a setup where the pppd (what-ya-call-it) 
will call up the isp and start the firewall/nat. But fundamentally the 
firewall/nat is independent of the modem connection.

So, what do you use for firewall/nat? ipfw/ipf/pf? I think I can help 
you with ipf, if you use something else then I'm sure someone can help 
you once they know they have the knowledge you need.

While your filter rules might be long, the nat rules should be quite 
simple, and typically it's nat that causes problems, so please post that.

ssh delays? did you try to type in the ip to see if it was faster?
Yup.  No change.  I should have mentioned that for sure.
This is really important because this suggests that there is no problem 
with your resolv.conf or other named configuration files.

I think I get the picture of your network but sometimes it helps a lot
if you scetch the network with a ascii-diagram, add ip's etc.

 - 172...20
 ip-by-ppp  |  - 172...8
   || |
 net <-> gw <-> srvr
  |  | |
info,   u-ppp, dfrtr:isp's dns server
porn,   w/fw   /etc/hosts: 8  srvr.made-up-dom srvr
trash,  w/nat. ...20  gw.made-up-dom gw
etc.defrt set  /e/nsswitch.conf: files dns
 by uppp.
no ipv6ipv6 (and 4)
Ah, I see, dfrtr is default router? It shouldn't be the isp but the 
internal ip of your gw. Otherwise you might get some strange behaviour 
(which you seem to have).

I just realized that I am setting 'defaultdomain' in the server's
/etc/rc.conf in spite of the fact that I'm not currently running
NIS in my local network.  I'll try getting rid of that to see if
it helps.
Note that nis domain and dns domain is _not_ the same. Setting your 
default domain in rc.conf sets the nis default domain, and has 
absolutely nothing to do with dns.

BTW, here's the salient part of a tcpdump on the tun0 interface
when I ssh from 'gw' to 'srvr':
 10:32:36.698042 IP gila.62914 > king.dialoregon.net.domain:
63948+ PTR? 20.0.16.172.in-addr.arpa. (42)
 10:32:36.990638 IP king.dialoregon.net.domain > gila.62914:
63948 NXDomain 0/1/0 (119)
Ok, sorry, I'm used to snort output, but good idea, try sniff and dump 
so you can see what happens in slow.

So 'srvr' is looking up 'gw's IP when it _thinks_ there is access
to a DNS server.  That's what I thought.  Question is, 'how to
make it stop?'

Here's my /etc/hosts:
---
::1 localhost localhost.huppih.com
127.0.0.1   localhost localhost.huppih.com
172.16.0.8 gila.huppih.com gila 172.16.0.20 agama.huppih.com agama
Typo or copy/paste error? One ip per line. In the above 172.16.0.20 
becomes an alias for 172.16.0.8 (if it makes sense at all).

Just knowing that someone has a similar setup and it works would
be of significant help since it would tell me if there even is a
solution.  Else, and also very good would be to know that it's an
intractable problem with the tools I use.
I think that when you get to that point it's time to start clean and be 
systematic. Remove anything that might blur the picture, unneeded 
services and stuff.

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Re: Re[2]: Can´t access a box remotely

2005-01-19 Thread Mauricio Brunstein
Hexren:

The pocess of PID 212 is ppp:

server:~ $ ps auxw|grep 212   
  root212  0.0  0.8  3240 2112  ??  Ss5:53PM   0:00.43 ppp
-ddial default
mauro   687  0.0  0.4  1472  892  p0  S+6:48PM   0:00.00 grep 212
server:~ $

My rc.conf has references to tun0:

server:~ $ sudo cat /etc/rc.conf

# -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # Sun Nov 21 13:07:41 2004
# Created: Sun Nov 21 13:07:41 2004
# Enable network daemons for user convenience.
# Please make all changes to this file, not to /etc/defaults/rc.conf.
# This file now contains just the overrides from /etc/defaults/rc.conf.
#
##

hostname="server.estudio"
netd_enable="YES"
saver="dragon"
scrnmap="NO"
sshd_enable="YES"
sshd_flags="-4 -p 222"
usbd_enable="YES"
network_interfaces="lo0 rl0 fxp0 tun0"
#network_interfaces="lo0 rl0 fxp0"
ifconfig_tun0=" "
ifconfig_rl0="inet 192.168.2.1  netmask 255.255.255.0"
ifconfig_fxp0="media 10baseT/UTP up"

ppp_enable="YES"
ppp_mode="ddial"
ppp_nat="YES"
ppp_profile="my_isp"

router_enable="YES"
gateway_enable="YES"  # Set to YES if this host will be a gateway

pf_enable="YES" # Enable PF (load module if required)
pf_rules="/etc/pf.conf" # rules definition file for pf
pf_flags="-d" # additional flags for pfctl startup
#pflog_enable="YES"  # start pflogd(8)
#pflog_logfile="/var/log/pflog"  # where pflogd should store the logfile
#pflog_flags=""  # additional flags for pflogd startup

inetd_enable="YES"   # Run the network daemon dispatcher (YES/NO).
inetd_program="/usr/sbin/inetd" # path to inetd, if you want a different one.
inetd_flags="-wW -C 60" # Optional flags to inetd

#nmbd_enable="YES"
#smbd_enable="YES"
#winbindd_enable="YES"

named_enable="YES"   # Run named, the DNS server (or NO).
named_program="/usr/sbin/named" # path to named, if you want a different one.
named_flags="-u bind"   # Flags for named
named_pidfile="/var/run/named/pid" # Must set this in named.conf as well
named_chrootdir="/var/named"# Chroot directory (or "" not to auto-chroot it)
named_chroot_autoupdate="YES"   # Automatically install/update chrooted
# components of named. See /etc/rc.d/named.
named_symlink_enable="YES"  # Symlink the chrooted pid file
server:~ $


Thank you again,

Mauricio.


On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 22:44:04 +0100, Hexren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> MB> Hexren:
> 
> MB> Thank you for answer so quickly. I discovered that the problem is that
> MB> ppp is using tun1 in place of tun0 and I am usin a dyndns deamon that
> MB> is configured to update the ip address of tun0 (this is the interface
> MB> that I want to use). Why ppp is using tun0??? I gess that something
> MB> could be wrong in rc.conf. If I do and ssh to the ip address of tun1,
> MB> I can connect normally.
> 
> MB> Here is the output of ifconfig:
> 
> MB> server:~ $ ifconfig
> MB> rl0: flags=8843 mtu 1500
> MB> options=8
> MB> inet 192.168.2.1 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.2.255
> MB> inet6 fe80::208:54ff:fe1d:8be5%rl0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1
> MB> ether 00:08:54:1d:8b:e5
> MB> media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX )
> MB> status: active
> MB> fxp0: flags=8843 mtu 1500
> MB> options=8
> MB> inet6 fe80::211:11ff:fe85:efa8%fxp0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2
> MB> ether 00:11:11:85:ef:a8
> MB> media: Ethernet 10baseT/UTP
> MB> status: active
> MB> plip0: flags=108810 mtu 1500
> MB> lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384
> MB> inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff00
> MB> inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128
> MB> inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4
> MB> tun0: flags=8051 mtu 1500
> MB> Opened by PID 212
> MB> tun1: flags=8051 mtu 1492
> MB> inet 200.127.126.73 --> 200.32.0.42 netmask 0x
> MB> Opened by PID 230
> MB> pflog0: flags=0<> mtu 33208
> 
> MB> Thank you for all!!!
> 
> MB> Mauricio
> 
> MB> On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 22:22:33 +0100, Hexren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >Hi to all!
> >>
> >> >I can´t access to a box from the internet, using ssh.
> >>
> >> -
> >>
> >> Please specify your problem.
> >>
> >> Do you have IP connectivity ? (Do a "ping 216.136.204.117" from the
> >> machine of which you are showing logs here)
> >>
> >> Do you have DNS (Do a "ping www.freebsd.org" )
> >>
> >> Which error is given out when you try to ssh in from the internet. (try
> >> ssh -v or ssh -vv)
> >>
> >> Hexren
> >>
> >>
> 
> 
> -
> 
> Wild guessing here:
> Maybe the interface tun0 gets created when it is first called by
> something refering to rc.conf. (It is in there isn't it ?). When ppp
> the fires up it creates its own tun device, taking the next "free"
> name which is tun1 as tun0 already exists and ppp can't know if it

Re: gmirror: replacing failed disks

2005-01-19 Thread Doug Poland
On Wed, Jan 19, 2005 at 06:55:53AM +0100, Christian Hiris wrote:
> 
> > GEOM_MIRROR[2]: Metadata on ad6 updated. Jan 18 21:07:17 sgwww02 kernel:
> > GEOM_MIRROR[1]: Disk ad6 (device gm0s1) marked as dirty. Jan 18 21:07:17
> > sgwww02 kernel: GEOM_MIRROR[2]: Metadata on ad6 updated.
> >
> > and on and on...
> >
> 
> Hi Doug, seems to me, that when you pulled drive ad4, data on it were
> damaged.  Thanks for trying this with ad4 as provider! 
> 
> Now simply try to simulate a replacement with a fresh disk, as you
> would do in real life. Please set 'sysctl -w kern.geom.mirror.debug=0'
> and remove the according line from your /boot/loader.config. The
> procedure below is similar to the example in the gmirror manpage, just
> added 2. and 3. to make ad4 appear as a fresh disk and re-create the
> slice ad4s1. 
> 
> 1.   Let ad6 forget about all other gms01's  providers
>  # gmirror forget gms01
> 
> 2.   Clean up ad4  
> 
> 2.1. Blank out the first few blocks of ad4
>  # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad4 bs=512 count=128 
> 
> 2.2. Blank out gmirror metadata on ad4 
>  # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad4 bs=512 skip=156301400
> 
This command took "a long time" and I didn't let it complete.  I use the
tcsh and would occassionaly hit  T to track it's progress.  I
didn't see it writing data to the disk nor did I see disk activity.  Did
I not wait long enough?

> 3.   Initialize ad4 and create slize ad4s1
>  # fdisk -v -B -I /dev/ad4
> 
> 4.   Add /dev/ad4s1 to mirror gm0s1
>  # gmirror insert gm0s1 /dev/ad4s1
> 
Christian,

Other than the issue with 2.2 above, the procedure worked and the
"replacement" drive is now synchronizing.  Now I'll print out a
transcript of this and tape it to the box,  Then, in three years, when a
drive dies, I'll remember what to do :)

Thanks again for all your help.

-- 
Regards,
Doug

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Re: FreeBSD I LOVE YOU

2005-01-19 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2005-01-19 21:10, Anthony Atkielski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm gradually migrating legacy aps off my older NT server and I think
> it might be extremely interesting to install FreeBSD on that machine
> once it is free--if only I could persuade it to boot from diskette
> (for some reason, the diskette drive no longer seems to be recognized
> by the OS).  It's an old HP Vectra, but like all vintage HP high-end
> machines, it still works perfectly, after nearly a decade of
> continuous use.

Hi Anthony,

I've seen Windows machines "lose" CD-ROM or floppy drives, on perfectly
working systems.  You may find that booting the installation CD-ROM of
some FreeBSD version locates the floppy drive just fine.

> Can anyone tell me how to install FreeBSD on a machine that is running
> Windows NT and refuses to boot from CD or from diskette?  I don't
> suppose there's any magic program I could run from NT that would start
> a FreeBSD installation, is there?

Your best choise may be to install by physically moving the disk to an
other system.  Then you can return the disk to the Vectra system and let
it boot.

If you are a bit careful during the installation process _not_ to make
configuration changes that depend on the particular sort of hardware the
'install' system has, you shouldn't face any show-stoppers when you move
the disk back to the Vectra.

When the Vectra boots into FreeBSD, you can configure the network
locally and you're set to go :-)

- Giorgos

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Re[2]: Can´t access a box remotely

2005-01-19 Thread Hexren
MB> Hexren:

MB> Thank you for answer so quickly. I discovered that the problem is that
MB> ppp is using tun1 in place of tun0 and I am usin a dyndns deamon that
MB> is configured to update the ip address of tun0 (this is the interface
MB> that I want to use). Why ppp is using tun0??? I gess that something
MB> could be wrong in rc.conf. If I do and ssh to the ip address of tun1,
MB> I can connect normally.

MB> Here is the output of ifconfig:

MB> server:~ $ ifconfig
MB> rl0: flags=8843 mtu 1500
MB> options=8
MB> inet 192.168.2.1 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.2.255
MB> inet6 fe80::208:54ff:fe1d:8be5%rl0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1
MB> ether 00:08:54:1d:8b:e5
MB> media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX )
MB> status: active
MB> fxp0: flags=8843 mtu 1500
MB> options=8
MB> inet6 fe80::211:11ff:fe85:efa8%fxp0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2
MB> ether 00:11:11:85:ef:a8
MB> media: Ethernet 10baseT/UTP
MB> status: active
MB> plip0: flags=108810 mtu 1500
MB> lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384
MB> inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff00
MB> inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128
MB> inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4
MB> tun0: flags=8051 mtu 1500
MB> Opened by PID 212
MB> tun1: flags=8051 mtu 1492
MB> inet 200.127.126.73 --> 200.32.0.42 netmask 0x
MB> Opened by PID 230
MB> pflog0: flags=0<> mtu 33208

MB> Thank you for all!!!

MB> Mauricio

MB> On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 22:22:33 +0100, Hexren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >Hi to all!
>> 
>> >I can´t access to a box from the internet, using ssh.
>> 
>> -
>> 
>> Please specify your problem.
>> 
>> Do you have IP connectivity ? (Do a "ping 216.136.204.117" from the
>> machine of which you are showing logs here)
>> 
>> Do you have DNS (Do a "ping www.freebsd.org" )
>> 
>> Which error is given out when you try to ssh in from the internet. (try
>> ssh -v or ssh -vv)
>> 
>> Hexren
>> 
>>


-


Wild guessing here:
Maybe the interface tun0 gets created when it is first called by
something refering to rc.conf. (It is in there isn't it ?). When ppp
the fires up it creates its own tun device, taking the next "free"
name which is tun1 as tun0 already exists and ppp can't know if it is
used by something else.
Try removing all references to tun0 from /etc/rc.conf

Keep in mind that this is only a guess.
Also look at what hides behind PID 212. You can see in th output you
provided that tun0 was created by that PID.

Hexren

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5.3 prob reading 4.11 hdd

2005-01-19 Thread Warren
I recently took my primary hdd running FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE out of my main 
machine leaving my 2ndry hdd in the machine and installing FreeBSD5.3-STABLE 
on it to use as the new primary.  When everything was done and i plugged in 
the 2nd hdd that priginally had 4.11-STABLE on it, i was unable to find the 
individual partitions/slices on there to mount so i could access all the old 
data i had.  I have a basic understanding of FreeBSD but am still not quite 
proficent when it comes to this sort of thing.  Below is the dislabel output 
of the drive im wanting to get all the data from..

# /dev/ad1s1c:
8 partitions:
#size   offsetfstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
  c: 234436482   63unused0 0 # "raw" part, don't 
edit
  e: 234436482   634.2BSD 2048 1638489
partition c: partition extends past end of unit
disklabel: partition c doesn't start at 0!
disklabel: An incorrect partition c may cause problems for standard system 
utilities
partition e: partition extends past end of unit
==

Any help in recovering the copius amounts of data would be greatly 
appreciated.
-- 
Yours Sincerely
Shinjii
http://www.shinji.nq.nu
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Re: Can´t access a box remotely

2005-01-19 Thread Mauricio Brunstein
Hexren:

Thank you for answer so quickly. I discovered that the problem is that
ppp is using tun1 in place of tun0 and I am usin a dyndns deamon that
is configured to update the ip address of tun0 (this is the interface
that I want to use). Why ppp is using tun0??? I gess that something
could be wrong in rc.conf. If I do and ssh to the ip address of tun1,
I can connect normally.

Here is the output of ifconfig:

server:~ $ ifconfig
rl0: flags=8843 mtu 1500
options=8
inet 192.168.2.1 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.2.255
inet6 fe80::208:54ff:fe1d:8be5%rl0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1
ether 00:08:54:1d:8b:e5
media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX )
status: active
fxp0: flags=8843 mtu 1500
options=8
inet6 fe80::211:11ff:fe85:efa8%fxp0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2
ether 00:11:11:85:ef:a8
media: Ethernet 10baseT/UTP
status: active
plip0: flags=108810 mtu 1500
lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384
inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff00
inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128
inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4
tun0: flags=8051 mtu 1500
Opened by PID 212
tun1: flags=8051 mtu 1492
inet 200.127.126.73 --> 200.32.0.42 netmask 0x
Opened by PID 230
pflog0: flags=0<> mtu 33208

Thank you for all!!!

Mauricio

On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 22:22:33 +0100, Hexren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Hi to all!
> 
> >I can´t access to a box from the internet, using ssh.
> 
> -
> 
> Please specify your problem.
> 
> Do you have IP connectivity ? (Do a "ping 216.136.204.117" from the
> machine of which you are showing logs here)
> 
> Do you have DNS (Do a "ping www.freebsd.org" )
> 
> Which error is given out when you try to ssh in from the internet. (try
> ssh -v or ssh -vv)
> 
> Hexren
> 
>
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make installworld fails

2005-01-19 Thread Viren Patel
Hello. I am trying to upgrade FreeBSD 5.3 and performed
the following steps on a clean install and after upgrading
sources:

Booted into single-user mode

   cd /usr/src
   make buildworld
   make buildkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC
   make installkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC

Then rebooted the system back into single-user mode

   cd /usr/src
   make installworld

However this fails and the last few lines on screen are:

install -o root -g wheel -m 444 zzz.8.gz /usr/share/man/man8
===> etc
===> etc/sendmail
cd /usr/src/etc/../share/man; make makedb
makewhatis /usr/share/man
pid 17053 (makewhatis), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core
dumped)
*** Signal 11

Stop in /usr/src/share/man
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/etc
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src

I couldn't find a core file on the system.

Please help. Thank you.

--
Viren Patel
Chemistry & Biochemistry
University of Texas at Austin

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Re: Detecting CD devices

2005-01-19 Thread Jason Henson
On 01/18/05 18:47:31, Trey Sizemore wrote:
I've been working to get my CD-RW and DVD drives seen on my FBSD
5.3-STABLE box and mountable by a normal user account.  I've  
succeeded
with a minor glitch or two.  I can mount the devices and can play  
DVDs
and burn using k3b, but...

I can't use SoundJuicer and cdbakeoven does not detect the devices!
Per
posts I'd seen on this list and on a BSD forum, I've got the  
following
This is all I added to /etc/devfs.conf.  I thin added my user to the  
group cd_access.  I and any programs I run can use /dev/acd0 without  
problems.  You would add another set for for acd1(or whatever a dvd  
would be).  BTW, your devfs.conf only shows 1 cdrom as master, no dvd  
or second drive is mentioned in there.

own /dev/acd0   root:cd_access
perm/dev/acd0   0770
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Re[2]: : Mrs. Butterworth vs Vermont Maid

2005-01-19 Thread Hexren

BT> Then don't waste ours, stupid fucktardo spic.

BT> Bash.

-

Please refrain from swearing at other list members, it is rude and
beside that it is not helping. :(

thx
Hexren

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Re: : Mrs. Butterworth vs Vermont Maid

2005-01-19 Thread Basher Tarr
>-Original Message-
>From: Alvaro J. Gurdián [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 09:15 PM
>To: 'FreeBSD-Questions Questions'
>Subject: Fwd: Mrs. Butterworth vs Vermont Maid


>> do what I do and bounce all of his emails.  I am tired of having my 
>> bandwidth wasted.

Then don't waste ours, stupid fucktardo spic.

Bash.

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Re: Can´t access a box remotely

2005-01-19 Thread Hexren
>Hi to all!

>I can´t access to a box from the internet, using ssh.

-

Please specify your problem.

Do you have IP connectivity ? (Do a "ping 216.136.204.117" from the
machine of which you are showing logs here)

Do you have DNS (Do a "ping www.freebsd.org" )

Which error is given out when you try to ssh in from the internet. (try
ssh -v or ssh -vv)


Hexren

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Re: FreeBSD I LOVE YOU

2005-01-19 Thread Jason Henson
On 01/19/05 03:17:22, faisal gillani wrote:
Well it has been almost a year now since I first tried
FreeBSD 5.2.1 on my production server :-) " I like
playing with danger" & since then it has been just
giving me 110% always forever ... my FreeBSD server is
responsible for transferring large media files on my
network with Samba2 & Apache2
. Since I installed it I have had loads of problems
with my other Linux & windows servers but never with
FreeBSD its just always there for me .. just
DELIVERING all the time I must say I have been more
then impress with it , I have never seen a better &
faster performing server operating system EVER !!
also recently I discovered that the version I have
been using 5.2.1 was a Beta :-O ... Amazing if this
performance you get with a beta then ..
"speechless "
so now I smooth upgraded to 5.3 now ...
 Although I don't think FreeBSD with desktop OS but
with server OS I more then recommend .
& here is my little success story with FreeBSD .I LOVE
IT !!!
next stop OpenSolairs .. :-)
take care
=
*., ,.** Allah-hu-Akber*., ,.**


I was having problems using mount_smbfs to transfer files.  It would  
throttle itself up and down because of some weird windowing thing  
windows does.  That is what I found on the web anyway.

On a what type of network(some config info please, like any switchs?)  
do you share files and what is the throughput?  I would get between  
1-12mbits(it was a while so these numbers might not be right, but it  
was slow like 10mbit or less).  I was transferring tv episodes between  
2 pcs on a 100mbit switched network.  FreeBSD to windows.

Finnally I would like to ask all those servers/pcs that are mostly idle  
to run [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you can.  Email me if you have any questions on  
it.  It runs itself at nice 20.

Thanks,
Jason
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Fwd: Mrs. Butterworth vs Vermont Maid

2005-01-19 Thread Alvaro J. Gurdián
Alvaro Gurdián Jr.
La Noticia
System Administrator
Phone: (704) 568-6966 x103
5936 Monroe Road
Charlotte, NC 28212
Begin forwarded message:
From: Alvaro J. Gurdián <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: January 19, 2005 4:05:30 PM EST
To: Joshua Tinnin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mrs. Butterworth vs Vermont Maid
do what I do and bounce all of his emails.  I am tired of having my 
bandwidth wasted.

it would be great if we all did it
On Jan 18, 2005, at 6:59 PM, Joshua Tinnin wrote:
On Tuesday 18 January 2005 02:42 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And from where do you "get" that I think FreeBSD is bad? FreeBSD 4.x
is great. I just wish they'd support it instead of calling 5.x a
production release before its even close to 4.x performance
standards.
If this is how you feel, for the last time ...
USE SOMETHING ELSE!
NOBODY IS MAKING YOU USE ANY OS!
IF THE ONLY THING YOU CAN OFFER IS YOUR COMPLAINTS, GO AWAY!
Can we PLEASE get this guy permanently banned? Maybe we can complain 
to
AOL.

- jt
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Can´t access a box remotely

2005-01-19 Thread Mauricio Brunstein
Hi to all!

I can´t access to a box from the internet, using ssh. Also the box is
configured as a gateway, and I can´t access the redirected ports of
the computers in the internal network. Plase help! I don´t have any
idea of how to resolve this problem

Than you in advance, 

Mauricio.


PD: Some additional data of interest:

server:~ $ uname -a
FreeBSD server.estudio 5.3-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p1 #1: Tue
Nov 23 02:13:24 ART 2004
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERICconALTQ  i386
server:~ $

server:~ $ sudo cat /etc/ppp/ppp.conf
default:
 set log Phase Chat IPCP CCP tun command
 set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.255

my_isp:
 set device PPPoE:fxp0 # replace fxp0 with your Ethernet device
 set mtu 1492
 set mru 1492
 enable mssfixup
 set ctsrts off
 set speed sync
 disable acfcomp protocomp
 deny acfcomp
 set authname x
 set authkey yy
 add default HISADDR
# enable lqr
 disable ipv6cp
# set lqrperiod 5
 enable dns
server:~ $

server:~ $ sudo cat /etc/rc.conf

# -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # Sun Nov 21 13:07:41 2004
# Created: Sun Nov 21 13:07:41 2004
# Enable network daemons for user convenience.
# Please make all changes to this file, not to /etc/defaults/rc.conf.
# This file now contains just the overrides from /etc/defaults/rc.conf.
hostname="server.estudio"
netd_enable="YES"
saver="dragon"
scrnmap="NO"
sshd_enable="YES"
sshd_flags="-4 -p 222"
usbd_enable="YES"
network_interfaces="lo0 rl0 fxp0 tun0"
ifconfig_tun0=" "
ifconfig_rl0="inet 192.168.2.1  netmask 255.255.255.0"
ifconfig_fxp0="media 10baseT/UTP up"

ppp_enable="YES"
ppp_mode="ddial"
ppp_nat="YES"
ppp_profile="my_isp"

router_enable="YES"
gateway_enable="YES"  # Set to YES if this host will be a gateway
pf_enable="YES" # Enable PF (load module if required)
pf_rules="/etc/pf.conf" # rules definition file for pf
pf_flags="-d" # additional flags for pfctl startup
#pflog_enable="YES"  # start pflogd(8)
#pflog_logfile="/var/log/pflog"  # where pflogd should store the logfile
#pflog_flags=""  # additional flags for pflogd startup

inetd_enable="YES"   # Run the network daemon dispatcher (YES/NO).
inetd_program="/usr/sbin/inetd" # path to inetd, if you want a different one.
inetd_flags="-wW -C 60" # Optional flags to inetd

#nmbd_enable="YES"
#smbd_enable="YES"
#winbindd_enable="YES"


#
# named.  It may be possible to run named in a sandbox, man security for
# details.
#
named_enable="YES"   # Run named, the DNS server (or NO).
named_program="/usr/sbin/named" # path to named, if you want a different one.
named_flags="-u bind"   # Flags for named
named_pidfile="/var/run/named/pid" # Must set this in named.conf as well
named_chrootdir="/var/named"# Chroot directory (or "" not to auto-chroot it)
named_chroot_autoupdate="YES"   # Automatically install/update chrooted
# components of named. See /etc/rc.d/named.
named_symlink_enable="YES"  # Symlink the chrooted pid file
server:~ $

server:~ $ netstat -an|grep LISTEN
tcp4   0  0  *.8021 *.*LISTEN
tcp4   0  0  *.901  *.*LISTEN
tcp4   0  0  *.22   *.*LISTEN
tcp4   0  0  *.21   *.*LISTEN
tcp4   0  0  127.0.0.1.25   *.*LISTEN
tcp4   0  0  *.222  *.*LISTEN
tcp6   0  0  ::1.953*.*LISTEN
tcp4   0  0  127.0.0.1.953  *.*LISTEN
tcp4   0  0  127.0.0.1.53   *.*LISTEN
tcp4   0  0  192.168.2.1.53 *.*LISTEN
server:~ $
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Re: FreeBSD I LOVE YOU

2005-01-19 Thread Mike Jeays
On Wed, 2005-01-19 at 15:10, Anthony Atkielski wrote:
> faisal gillani writes:
> 
> fg> hmmm exactly right .. u know i have a 750MHz At halon
> fg> with 256MB ram .. & still my processor is 80% idle
> fg> most of the time ..
> fg> i also have some windows server on my network but
> fg> thats a compulsory rather then choice .
> 
> I'm gradually migrating legacy aps off my older NT server and I think it
> might be extremely interesting to install FreeBSD on that machine once
> it is free--if only I could persuade it to boot from diskette (for some
> reason, the diskette drive no longer seems to be recognized by the OS).
> It's an old HP Vectra, but like all vintage HP high-end machines, it
> still works perfectly, after nearly a decade of continuous use.
> 
> Can anyone tell me how to install FreeBSD on a machine that is running
> Windows NT and refuses to boot from CD or from diskette?  I don't
> suppose there's any magic program I could run from NT that would start a
> FreeBSD installation, is there?

I presume you have tried changing the boot order in the BIOS settings? 
You should be able to make the CD or floppy drive come ahead of the hard
disk in the boot sequence.

My apologies if this is too trivial an answer!

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Re: Detecting CD devices

2005-01-19 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Trey Sizemore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I've been working to get my CD-RW and DVD drives seen on my FBSD
> 5.3-STABLE box and mountable by a normal user account.  I've succeeded
> with a minor glitch or two.  I can mount the devices and can play DVDs
> and burn using k3b, but...
> 
> I can't use SoundJuicer and cdbakeoven does not detect the devices!  Per
> posts I'd seen on this list and on a BSD forum, I've got the following
> in /etc/devfs.conf:

What device are those applications looking for?  

Perhaps (just a guess) they're looking for /dev/cdrom or /dev/cd0 and
you only have /dev/acd0?
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Re: X11 Monitor Database?

2005-01-19 Thread Jason Henson
On 01/19/05 09:18:56, John wrote:
OK, I've been having a good time installing X.org on laptops, now
I've got around to a workstation with a "traditional" monitor.  I was
spoiled in the past by being able to browse a database of known
monitors,
where I pretty much always found what I needed.  There is no
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/doc/Monitors with X.org. :(
I've looked at the handbook, tried to find information on both
X.org and Xfree86.org (a monitor for one in a monitor for the other),
but have not had any luck.  Am I just missing it?  I've also done  
some
web searches, but they keep returning stuff about designing a monitor
database. :)  Not quite what I meant.
--

John Lind
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There is a dmcp(or something) setting in your xorg.conf file that  
enables autoconfig by asking the moniter what it wants.  If you check  
your xorg log file I think it spits outall supported modes in there.

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Re: moving a custom kernel to another machine ?

2005-01-19 Thread Lowell Gilbert
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I have compiled a FreeBSD custom kernel for a pc98
> arch laptop on my i686 box. I was wondering how I
> could actually transfer the kernel to floppy so I can
> load it into my laptop. I tried to copy the kernel
> folder but it's full of symlinks and doesn't produce
> an actual kernel for me. is there anyone here who has
> experience with cross compiling kernels that can help
> me? I already did make and make depend...of course I
> can't install it on my i386 box because the
> architecture is totally different.
> 
> How do I migrate the kernel ??

A quick look at the Makefiles makes me think that setting the DESTDIR
variable (and then installing to a staging area) might work.

In a somewhat similar situation, I use the network and an NFS mount...

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Re: Tab to Auto-Complete + ....

2005-01-19 Thread RW
On Wednesday 19 January 2005 15:22, Daniel Bye wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 19, 2005 at 02:32:41PM +, RW wrote:
> > On Tuesday 18 January 2005 12:10, Warren wrote:
> > > I changed the shell type using:  chsh -s /bin/csh
> >
> > I think you want /bin/tcsh/ which is the enhanced version of csh.
>
> It's the same thing:
>
> --->$ ls -i /bin/csh /bin/tcsh
> 24836 /bin/csh* 24836 /bin/tcsh*

Whilst you may well be right about csh and tcsh having identical behaviour in 
FreeBSD, you cannot infer that by comparing the binaries. It actually quite 
common for related programs to have the same executable.

For example:

$ md5 -r /usr/bin/*grep
44c602f0c4ad6838ec0ba9f353ad4616 /usr/bin/bzegrep
44c602f0c4ad6838ec0ba9f353ad4616 /usr/bin/bzfgrep
44c602f0c4ad6838ec0ba9f353ad4616 /usr/bin/bzgrep
44c602f0c4ad6838ec0ba9f353ad4616 /usr/bin/egrep
44c602f0c4ad6838ec0ba9f353ad4616 /usr/bin/fgrep
44c602f0c4ad6838ec0ba9f353ad4616 /usr/bin/grep
5a35688710a92604bce83761bca5ea61 /usr/bin/pgrep
44c602f0c4ad6838ec0ba9f353ad4616 /usr/bin/zegrep
44c602f0c4ad6838ec0ba9f353ad4616 /usr/bin/zfgrep
44c602f0c4ad6838ec0ba9f353ad4616 /usr/bin/zgrep
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Re: FreeBSD I LOVE YOU

2005-01-19 Thread Mike Woods
Anthony Atkielski wrote:
At least someone is thinking of it.  There are a lot of PCs out there
that are still in perfect working order, but are too slow to run the
hugely bloated desktop operating systems (and the "server" versions
thereof) that are popular today.  Efficient operating systems like UNIX
can give these machines new life and purpose and save tremendous
resources in the process.
We have here at work a whole load of p3 450's, tad old and not of great 
use as student machinesodd's where a lot of them where ultimatley 
desined for the bin, however a little while ago a getleman from our LRC 
asked me if it as possible to configure a printer to behave in a certain 
manner, intialy i said no but after some thought i got back to him and 
told him i might be able to develop a unix based system to do the job 
and here i am several months later in the process of producing a boot cd 
for the first release and having 5 print stations and a one development 
station all running freebsd, all the previously doomed p3 450's and 
hopefully i'll have about 10 more deployed before i go to my new job.

The server too is a "Recycled" machine, the only new parts are it's raid 
controller, drives and raid cage and psu (old one was too small for the 
4 drives), most everything else came from an old p3 600 the boss was 
playing with and the case came from an old p2 300 server that was 
decommisioned when i was a student :)

I think it's fair to say *nix oses in general reinforce the idea that 
just because it's not bright spangly and new it doesnt mean it's useless 
but freebsd moreso purley because of it's superb hardware support and 
the fact that generaly it's just a case of install it and go :)

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Re: Running named on one interface only

2005-01-19 Thread Greg Barniskis
Hexren wrote:
*gnaahh* I seem to be unable to locate any information about limiting
nameds service to one interface only. Does anybody know where to do
this ?
Thank you
Hexren
in named.conf,
options {
  listen-on { 10.0.0.1; 192.168.0.1; };
};
should cause the server to listen on 10.0.0.1 and 192.168.0.1 and no 
 other interfaces. (YMMV, as I've never actually done this). Don't 
forget to stop and start named after tweaking named.conf.

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Re: FreeBSD I LOVE YOU

2005-01-19 Thread daniel quinn
On January 19, 2005 03:06 pm, Anthony Atkielski wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> Fac> I think the "junky old PC" market is just what the current FreeBSD
> "team" Fac> is targeting.
>
> At least someone is thinking of it.  There are a lot of PCs out there
> that are still in perfect working order, but are too slow to run the
> hugely bloated desktop operating systems (and the "server" versions
> thereof) that are popular today.  Efficient operating systems like UNIX
> can give these machines new life and purpose and save tremendous
> resources in the process.
>
> Indeed, someone in the Third World without the means to buy a new PC and
> an expensive Windows license could find a junk PC and install FreeBSD on
> it for nothing, and be up and running in no time.  While UNIX doesn't
> have the advantages of Windows on the desktop, you can't beat the price,
> and it'll run on anything.

not to mention the huge environmental implications of producing newer hardware 
every year to support said bloated hardware.  if the same job can be done 
with a 10 year old box, i'm glad freebsd is here to help me do it.


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Re[2]: Running named on one interface only

2005-01-19 Thread Hexren
AS>  Le 19/01/2005 à 21:06:47+0100, Hexren a écrit
>> *gnaahh* I seem to be unable to locate any information about limiting
>> nameds service to one interface only. Does anybody know where to do
>> this ?
AS> In named.conf something like

AS> options {
AS>  listen-on port 53 { 127.0.0.1 ; your_address ; };
AS>  transfer-source your_address port 53;
AS>  notify-source your_address port 53;

AS> work fine.

AS> Regards.


AS> --
AS> Albert SHIH
AS> Universite de Paris 7 (Denis DIDEROT)
AS> U.F.R. de Mathematiques.
AS> Heure local/Local time:
AS> Wed Jan 19 21:13:19 CET 2005

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thank you that helped :)

Hexren

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Re: different behaviour between 4.x and 5.x (ping response/disk io) [was Re: ]

2005-01-19 Thread Jochen Keil
stheg olloydson wrote:
(Sorry about the multiple posts. I somehow sent this without a subject
line before.)
Never mind. Nobody's perfect. ;)
To sum up your problem, you tested "FreeBSD 5.3, NetBSD 2.0, FreeBSD
4.11 and an elder version of the Knoppix (Linux 2.4) CD" and found that
FreeBSD 4.11RC2 had the best ping responses from that group. What you
want to know is why FBSD 5.3 doesn't respond as well as 4.11RC2. Is
this correct?
You got me right.
Assuming that it is, the answer is that 5.3 is the first stable release
of the 5.x branch. One of the 5.x branch's main purposes is to make
FBSD much more scalable in terms SMP support. Doing this requires
removing the Giant lock. It had been hoped that the removal process
would be finished in time for 5.3. Unfortunately, as often happens in a
volunteer project delays occurred for various reasons, that was not the
case. The incomplete removal meant that not all subsystems could be
optimized properly. One of those subsystems is networking.
This is not as bad as it sounds because while 5.3's network performance
is not as good as 4.11RC2, it is no worse that of NBSD 2.0 or any Linux
distro. Also, the optimization has already begun on networking and 5.4
should be _at least_ as good as 4.x.
Also, as you saw yourself, using an SMP kernel in FBSD 5.3 doesn't
cause a performance hit in networking but it does in NBSD 2.0.
So your choices seem to be use 4.11RC2 (full release due shortly) to
get the best network response, 5.3 to get as good performance as NBSD
2.0 but with SMP, or use NBSD 2.0 to get as good perfomance as 5.3 but
without SMP. Of course, you can wait until NBSD (your prefered OS)
performs as well as FBSD, but that may be a lnng time.:)
Just a few day ago i installed NetBSD 2.0 to make a final stroke to my 
decision as i got this computer on the 16. of november. Main advantage 
in my opinion is that raidframe performs better than vinum (at least 
with my setup and with the tests i performed). There are some other 
topics but mainly subjective and not the matter of this email. I guess 
i'm going to stick with it, developers and time will do the rest for me. :)
But what's most important is that your mail gave me the confidence that 
my hardware isn't faulty. It's also very nice that you shed some light 
on the that whole network subject.

P.S. (to the list in general) Why do all of the questions about FBSD
performance, especially 4.x vs 5.x, come from people posting from
Windows boxes? Theories?
In my case i'm using windows because it's pre-installed on the laptop i 
use and i never had luck with *bsd/linux on the desktop (and especially 
laptops). Did you ever recognize the difference between Firefox/Mozilla 
Browser for Windows and the versions für FreeBSD? Even only compiled 
with GTK1 Firefox/Mozilla will load the cpu up to 100% when there are 
some tabs (>10-20) opened. I know that this is a matter of unsupported 
graphic cards with X.org (that whole proprietary stuff annoys me a 
lot..) but i don't want to suffer for my beliefs. If there only would be 
ratpoison or xfce for windows..
Well, enough said. (Maybe i'll make some space free for FreeBSD 5.3 to 
give a try but i'm not to optimistic that it will suffice my needs)

Thanks for your kind assistance and best regards,
Jochen Keil
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Re: Running named on one interface only

2005-01-19 Thread Benjamin Walkenhorst
Hexren wrote:
*gnaahh* I seem to be unable to locate any information about limiting
nameds service to one interface only. Does anybody know where to do
this ?
 

Put the following line into your named.conf's options section:
listen-on {  };
In case you use IPv6, the directive is listen-on-v6 IIRC.
Kind regards,
Benjamin
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Re: Running named on one interface only

2005-01-19 Thread Albert Shih
 Le 19/01/2005 à 21:06:47+0100, Hexren a écrit
> *gnaahh* I seem to be unable to locate any information about limiting
> nameds service to one interface only. Does anybody know where to do
> this ?
In named.conf something like

options {
 listen-on port 53 { 127.0.0.1 ; your_address ; };
 transfer-source your_address port 53;
 notify-source your_address port 53;

work fine.

Regards.


--
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Universite de Paris 7 (Denis DIDEROT)
U.F.R. de Mathematiques.
Heure local/Local time:
Wed Jan 19 21:13:19 CET 2005
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Are you also tired of the AOL guy?

2005-01-19 Thread Basher Tarr
Dear [EMAIL PROTECTED],

I'm tired of your bullshit. Not only you have no friggin' idea of what
you talk about 90% of the time, but you never provide a solution for 
those 'problems' you claim to have with FreeBSD 5.3.

That [EMAIL PROTECTED] guy may be a moron, but at least he doesn't
claim to be a kernel guru like you've done. Of course, you haven't 
submitted any patch to fix those deficiencies present in FreeBSD but 
expect, in a classic Brett Glass style, that someone will step in and 
do the job for you. Sorry, it doesn't work that way. Put up or shut up.

To the people who have suggested that he takes a look at DragonFlyBSD. 
Please, DON'T. The last thing DFly needs is someone like this guy. There 
was some ocasional trolling on the lists in the past (mainly performed by 
Bosko) but it's been a very nice place so far.

Instead, my suggestion is that you team up with Dag-Erling Smorgrav. Both 
of you love to make condescending remarks and both of you suffer from 
chronic asshole-ism. You're going to be very good friends.

Bash.


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Re: FreeBSD I LOVE YOU

2005-01-19 Thread Anthony Atkielski
faisal gillani writes:

fg> hmmm exactly right .. u know i have a 750MHz At halon
fg> with 256MB ram .. & still my processor is 80% idle
fg> most of the time ..
fg> i also have some windows server on my network but
fg> thats a compulsory rather then choice .

I'm gradually migrating legacy aps off my older NT server and I think it
might be extremely interesting to install FreeBSD on that machine once
it is free--if only I could persuade it to boot from diskette (for some
reason, the diskette drive no longer seems to be recognized by the OS).
It's an old HP Vectra, but like all vintage HP high-end machines, it
still works perfectly, after nearly a decade of continuous use.

Can anyone tell me how to install FreeBSD on a machine that is running
Windows NT and refuses to boot from CD or from diskette?  I don't
suppose there's any magic program I could run from NT that would start a
FreeBSD installation, is there?

-- 
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Running named on one interface only

2005-01-19 Thread Hexren
*gnaahh* I seem to be unable to locate any information about limiting
nameds service to one interface only. Does anybody know where to do
this ?

Thank you
Hexren

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Re: FreeBSD I LOVE YOU

2005-01-19 Thread Anthony Atkielski
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Fac> I think the "junky old PC" market is just what the current FreeBSD "team"
Fac> is targeting.

At least someone is thinking of it.  There are a lot of PCs out there
that are still in perfect working order, but are too slow to run the
hugely bloated desktop operating systems (and the "server" versions
thereof) that are popular today.  Efficient operating systems like UNIX
can give these machines new life and purpose and save tremendous
resources in the process.

Indeed, someone in the Third World without the means to buy a new PC and
an expensive Windows license could find a junk PC and install FreeBSD on
it for nothing, and be up and running in no time.  While UNIX doesn't
have the advantages of Windows on the desktop, you can't beat the price,
and it'll run on anything.

-- 
Anthony


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Re: need help

2005-01-19 Thread Stevan Tiefert
angelito munez schrieb:
Hi,..
I just formatted freeBSD4.9.  i want it run as a router and a firewall. does anybody out here can help me out.. and commands do i want.. from complete to become a sevver.. thanks.. 


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Re: FreeBSD I LOVE YOU

2005-01-19 Thread faisal gillani
hmmm exactly right .. u know i have a 750MHz Athalon
with 256MB ram .. & still my processor is 80% idle
most of the time ..
i also have some windows server on my network but
thats a compulsory rather then choice .



--- Anthony Atkielski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Jorn Argelo writes:
> 
> JA> Either way, I never want another server OS
> again. This is great.
> 
> If I had to install a dozen more servers today, they
> would all get
> FreeBSD.  It makes extremely good use of whatever
> hardware you care to
> give it.  Indeed, FreeBSD can turn even junky old
> PCs into productive
> systems, since it is fast enough to do useful work
> even with creaky old
> hardware.  Of course, this is presumably true with
> most versions of UNIX
> (those without a GUI to support, at least), but
> since my experience is
> with FreeBSD and it has been uniformly positive,
> I'll just continue with
> that.  The thought of going back to a Windows server
> now makes my teeth
> chatter with terror--how awkward Windows servers
> seem now!  (Then again,
> they seemed awkward even back when I used them
> regularly--have you ever
> tried to maintain a distant Windows server over a
> dial-up line with
> pcAnywhere?)
> 
> -- 
> Anthony
> 
> 
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Re: FreeBSD I LOVE YOU

2005-01-19 Thread faisal gillani
hmmm exactly right .. u know i have a 750MHz At halon
with 256MB ram .. & still my processor is 80% idle
most of the time ..
i also have some windows server on my network but
thats a compulsory rather then choice .



--- Anthony Atkielski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Jorn Argelo writes:
> 
> JA> Either way, I never want another server OS
> again. This is great.
> 
> If I had to install a dozen more servers today, they
> would all get
> FreeBSD.  It makes extremely good use of whatever
> hardware you care to
> give it.  Indeed, FreeBSD can turn even junky old
> PCs into productive
> systems, since it is fast enough to do useful work
> even with creaky old
> hardware.  Of course, this is presumably true with
> most versions of UNIX
> (those without a GUI to support, at least), but
> since my experience is
> with FreeBSD and it has been uniformly positive,
> I'll just continue with
> that.  The thought of going back to a Windows server
> now makes my teeth
> chatter with terror--how awkward Windows servers
> seem now!  (Then again,
> they seemed awkward even back when I used them
> regularly--have you ever
> tried to maintain a distant Windows server over a
> dial-up line with
> pcAnywhere?)
> 
> -- 
> Anthony
> 
> 
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Re: FreeBSD I LOVE YOU

2005-01-19 Thread Freebsd0101
In a message dated 1/19/05 2:27:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
If I had to install a dozen more servers today, they would all get
FreeBSD.  It makes extremely good use of whatever hardware you care to
give it.  Indeed, FreeBSD can turn even junky old PCs into productive
systems
I think the "junky old PC" market is just what the current FreeBSD "team"
is targeting.
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Re: FreeBSD I LOVE YOU

2005-01-19 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Jorn Argelo writes:

JA> Either way, I never want another server OS again. This is great.

If I had to install a dozen more servers today, they would all get
FreeBSD.  It makes extremely good use of whatever hardware you care to
give it.  Indeed, FreeBSD can turn even junky old PCs into productive
systems, since it is fast enough to do useful work even with creaky old
hardware.  Of course, this is presumably true with most versions of UNIX
(those without a GUI to support, at least), but since my experience is
with FreeBSD and it has been uniformly positive, I'll just continue with
that.  The thought of going back to a Windows server now makes my teeth
chatter with terror--how awkward Windows servers seem now!  (Then again,
they seemed awkward even back when I used them regularly--have you ever
tried to maintain a distant Windows server over a dial-up line with
pcAnywhere?)

-- 
Anthony


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Re: /usr full from wrong cvsup install

2005-01-19 Thread Toomas Aas
Marty Landman wrote:
# df
Filesystem  1K-blocks   Used  Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/ad0s1a516062  35154 439624 7%/
/dev/ad1s1f516062  2 474776 0%/mnt
/dev/ad0s1f170334  51912 10479633%/tmp
/dev/ad1s1e   1032142 935616  1395699%/usr
/dev/ad0s1e170334   1386 155322 1%/var
procfs  4  4  0   100%/proc
#
This says that I blew my 1GB /usr, right?
I find that for installation on such small HDs it's better to have only 
two partitions on the primary HD, / and swap. As it is now, you have ca 
600 MB free on ad0 but you're still running out of space. With such 
small partitions, even 200 MB of free space scattered across all 
partitions might be exactly what you're missing in that one vital place.

I've just put together a system consisting of 4.11-STABLE, x.org 6.8.1 
and KDE 3.3.2 on a machine with two hard drives: 2.0 GB + 1.2 GB. I even 
have full sources and all the port distfiles. It's my mom's solitaire 
machine :)

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Re: ATi and Xorg Troubles in FreeBSD 5.3

2005-01-19 Thread Ronny Fischer
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Hi Doug

A short update ;-)

I have uninstalled Xorg an installed XF86 from the FreeBSD ports
(was quite tricky because the XF86 ports are not on the official  
freebsd server's)

But,
All in all the same situation at the first start with XF86, 1024x480, 8  
bit colour.
Then I configured XF86 with the GUI version of xf86cfg (easier to  
choose the drivers as in the CLI version  ;-)
After this I shutdown and restart X and the I had 800x600 with 16 Bit.

So this is enough for me, I am quite happy with my FreeBSD 5.3
WindowMaker locks a little bit strange but is is fast and stable.

If I find the time, I will try to tune XF86 to 1024x480.
If I have News about it, I drop ya a Mail.

and btw : If you have slow computers, try windowmaker.
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/url.cgi?ports/x11-wm/windowmaker/pkg-descr

Fast, needs not a lot of resources and easy to customize.
I love it ;-)

Thanx a lot,
HAVE FUN and
with my best regardz
Ronny
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Am 12.01.2005 um 00:15 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

As to good ideas Ronnie, I do not think so, but here are some things  
you may not
have tried:

Since you found me you probably have already gone the Google route but  
if you
have not try your exact configuration. Try the FreeBSD mobile and  
hardware
lists. Freshports may help with Xorg as well as XFree86

XFree86 has the advantage of better documentation about bugs, at least
currently.  Try their resource page. The development snapshots list  
pretty
specifically what was fixed in each snapshot. You can download binaries  
for
FreeBSD and these are pretty quick to install (10-15 mins after the  
first
one). The XFree86 newbie list is pretty helpful; subscribe and post your
question there.

If any of the above works, I would then drop back to 4.11 unless you do  
not mind
using ports (rather than packages). My Unix workstations and laptops  
are far too
slow to consider building X or KDE.

BTW if the above is wrong I would sure like to be clued in. Aside from  
the fact
that the packages are built with Xorg, some of the low level  
dependencies have
mutually exclusive version dependencies. Portupgrade may allow the use  
of
packages by rewriting the dependencies. I would think Xorg and XFree  
are still
compatible at the BPI level. Because of processor speed I can start  
from scratch
and build my laptop 4-5 times before Qt would finish building.

On Sun, 9 Jan 2005, Ronny Fischer wrote:

> Hi there
>
> I have updatet to
> xorg-server-6.8.1_1 X.Org X server and related programs via FreeBSD
> Ports..
>
> ..but it is still not possible to get more the 8 bit color on the sony
> c1ve.
> the vesa driver is fine in 640x480 but it is not possible to have it
> with 1024x480 on this machine...
>
> any other ideas ?
> could it work with xfree86 instead of xorg ?
>
> thanx a lot,
> HAVE FUN and
> with my best regardz
> ronny
>
>
>
> Am 08.01.2005 um 18:14 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
>
> Thanks Joe I will try to upgrade. My experience was the same, in that  
> the
> problem tracked X (both projects) across several levels of 4.x and 5.x.
>
> The vesa drive works okay, but I miss the larger screen and better font
> rendering.
>
>
> On Sat, 8 Jan 2005, Joe Altman wrote:
>
>> Doug, Ronny...
>>
>> I'm running 4.11 with xorg 6.8.1, built from source on December 28,  
>> 2004
>> using a Rage Mobility P/M AGP 2x on an IBM ThinkPad A20m. I have a  
>> default
>> depth of 24 bits, and a resolution of 1024x768. I am using the ati  
>> driver.
>>
>> Ronny: I see that the query is for 5.3, but I thought that perhaps my
>> experience would indicate that the ATI chip seems to work fine w/ the  
>> most
>> recent version of xorg; or rather, the source as it existed on  
>> December
>> 28th.
>>
>> Doug: I remember that you and I encountered the same issue, back in
>> September or thereabouts, WRT the ATI chip? I'm happy to report what  
>> is
>> above: it seems to be safe to use the ati driver w/ the newest source  
>> for
>> xorg and the chip in question.
>>
>> HTH, best regards,
>>
>> Joe
>>
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Pb to build courier-authlib

2005-01-19 Thread Albert Shih
Hi 

I've strange problem to update courier-imap. I've see now there a two
ports, one for courier-imap and another for courier-authlib.

But when I try to build courier-authlib, after many message I've 

Makefile:1624: *** missing separator.  Stop.
*** Error code 2

Stop in /usr/ports/mail/courier-authlib.

My ports tree is up-to-date, and I'm running FreeBSD 5.2.1-p10

I've try to google this problem but I don't find anything.

Hope anyone can help me.

Regards.



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Re: NAT/DNS question/recommendation?

2005-01-19 Thread Tom Huppi



On Wed, 19 Jan 2005, Erik Norgaard wrote:

> Tom Huppi wrote:
> > I have a FreeBSD 5.3 workstation connected to the net via user-ppp
> > with a dynamic IP.  I have user-ppp doing both NAT and simple
> > firewall.
> >
> > I have a headless server box, also 5.3, set up as a NAT client.
> > I run it only when I need the horsepower since it's loud and sucks
> > power.
> >
> > My problem is that the NAT client acts funny.  It makes the
> > gateway/workstation box dial up when I attempt to automount from
> > it for example.  Also I've had troubles with ssh delays.  I'm
> > pretty sure that what is happening is that it wants to use DNS to
> > resolve names sometime even though all that it needs _should_ be
> > in the /etc/hosts file (and nsswitch.conf lists files first.)
> >
> > On the NAT client, I have my defaultrouter set to the NAT server's
> > IP (in the 172.16 range.)  Also I have my ISP's dns server in
> > /etc/resolv.conf.  I can't seem to make things work well any other
> > way.
> >
> > Can someone recommend a better setup to aviod my problems, or
> > suggest that I should _not_ be having these problems with this
> > setup and that something else in my setup must be wrong?
> >
> > A long, long time ago, I set up a caching-only DNS server on a
> > gateway box 'for the fun of it.' If there is not a simpler
> > solution, I'll do it again (though the fun has worn off), but I
> > thought I'de ask here first.
> >
> > BTW, I have done some research on this, but really didn't find
> > that many specific details about NAT client
> > configuration...possibly I just didn't look hard enough.
>
> Maybe you are searching for the wrong keywords. I simply haven't heard
> of anyone speak of a "NAT client" or "NAT Server" before.

I mean one runs NAT, and the other uses it.  I've searched various
things and have run into subtle refernences which seem related to
my problem (like 'gethostbyname' isn't even supposed to consult
/etc/hosts), but nothing specific.

> Secondly you haven't told us anything about how things are setup: Are
> you using ipfw, ipf or pf? What are your nat-rules? what are your filter
> rules?

I think I did mention that the firewall and NAT are as implemented
in user-PPP.  I could post my rule-set, but it would take a good
bit of space.  Clearly DNS requests from 'the-machine-using-NAT-
but-not-running-it' are dialbound-accept (either that, or
user-ppp's firewall is broken.)  That is not to say I know these
rules are correct, and in fact I had played around with this
aspect of the rules earlier to try to aviod spurious dials
associated with a windows 'machine-using-NAT', but unless there is
a known mechanism associated with the rules which would cause the
unhappiness I'm experiancing, it seems a waste of space.

BTW, it does seem that when the user-ppp daemon is shut down
completely, these delay's _don't_ exist, and the problem is
similarly non-noticable when the connection is actually
established (in spite of the fact that, obviously, my local
hostnames are not known to the global internet.)

If someone knows, for instance, that DNS requests from
'the-machine-not-running-NAT-but-using-it' will quickly and
silently give up _or_ revert to files upon hitting a
dialbound-blocked rule, I can certainly make it so.  Obviously I
don't want to block DNS requests from the
'machine-not-running-NAT'.

> You are trying to automount what? nfs, smbfs?

NFS.  (unix <-> unix)

> ssh delays? did you try to type in the ip to see if it was faster?

Yup.  No change.  I should have mentioned that for sure.

> I think I get the picture of your network but sometimes it helps a lot
> if you scetch the network with a ascii-diagram, add ip's etc.

 - 172...20
 ip-by-ppp  |  - 172...8
   || |
 net <-> gw <-> srvr
  |  | |
info,   u-ppp, dfrtr:isp's dns server
porn,   w/fw   /etc/hosts: 8  srvr.made-up-dom srvr
trash,  w/nat. ...20  gw.made-up-dom gw
etc.defrt set  /e/nsswitch.conf: files dns
 by uppp.
no ipv6ipv6 (and 4)

I just realized that I am setting 'defaultdomain' in the server's
/etc/rc.conf in spite of the fact that I'm not currently running
NIS in my local network.  I'll try getting rid of that to see if
it helps.

BTW, here's the salient part of a tcpdump on the tun0 interface
when I ssh from 'gw' to 'srvr':

 10:32:36.698042 IP gila.62914 > king.dialoregon.net.domain:
63948+ PTR? 20.0.16.172.in-addr.arpa. (42)
 10:32:36.990638 IP king.dialoregon.net.domain > gila.62914:
63948 NXDomain 0/1/0 (119)

So 'srvr' is looking up 'gw's IP when it _thinks_ there is access
to a DNS server.  That's what I thought.  Question is, 'how to
make it stop?'

Here's my /etc/hosts:
---
::1 localhost localhost.huppih.com
127.0.0.1   localhost localhost.huppih.com

172.16.0.8 gila.huppih.com gila 172.16.0.20 agama.huppih.com agama
-
and I have tried various permutations of this on both machines
(specifi

Re: PF and NAT on FreeBSD 5.3

2005-01-19 Thread Kosta Kilim
On Wed, Jan 19, 2005 at 06:25:32PM +0100, Karol Kwiatkowski wrote:
> Kosta Kilim wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I'm trying to setup a PF with NAT for my home network.



> pf rules looks OK.
> Wild guess: have you enabled packet forwarding? You can check it with
> sysctl(8):
> 
> # sysctl net.inet.ip.forwarding
> net.inet.ip.forwarding: 1
> 
> To enable this at boot time put gateway_enable="YES" in your /etc/rc.conf
> 
> Also check the handbook (25.2.4 Building a Router chapter):
> 
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-routing.html
> 
> > Any hints would be gladly received. Thank you for your time.
> 
> You're welcome (I'm not sure if that helps, though).

That helped, thanks a lot.

I've just read that page a few times in the last few days, but only now 
did it sink in. Thanks again !

Kosta
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need help

2005-01-19 Thread angelito munez
Hi,..
I just formatted freeBSD4.9.  i want it run as a router and a firewall. does 
anybody out here can help me out.. and commands do i want.. from complete to 
become a sevver.. thanks.. 


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Re: KSE and CPU in top...

2005-01-19 Thread Benjamin Walkenhorst
Dan Nelson wrote:
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hidden by default.
 

Yes it works!
I *love* SMP! =)
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Re: FreeBSD I LOVE YOU

2005-01-19 Thread Jorn Argelo
On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 16:14:22 +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote
> Xian writes:
> 
> X> I installed FreeBSD on a machine with an Athlon 3200 that I 
> accident under X> clocked to 1.4GHz. I didn't notice for quite a 
> while as the performance was X> amazing any way. It didn't half go 
> some when I put the clock speed up to X> 2.2GHz.
> 
> I think people nowadays forget how fast computers are.  Remember,
>  UNIX was designed long ago, at a time when a computer that could 
> hit one million integer instructions per second was nearly science fiction.
> UNIX was therefore designed to be fast, and even today, despite the
> gradual evolution that the OS has undergone, it still is extremely fast
> compared to certain very bloated operating systems that were written 
> at a later time, when increasing hardware speeds could conceal 
> laziness on the part of systems programmers.
> 
> Given what older hardware used to support under UNIX, I wouldn't be 
> at all surprised if you could support 1000 simultaneous timesharing users
> on FreeBSD with a modern PC.  If you add X then you naturally gobble 
> up resources and bring UNIX closer to Windows or the Mac, but if you 
> run a straight text-only OS, it can be hard to ever come close to 
> the machine capacity with any kind of real-world load (meaning a 
> realistic load of the type for which UNIX was intended).
> 
> I never seen less than about 97% idle my machine, and the average 
> over time is closer to 99.9% idle.  The machine is definitely 
> working, but with a streamlined OS and straightforward applications 
> that don't have to drive GUIs or play music or animate movies, it flies.

I'm running FreeBSD 5.3 on my server and it has periods it's just 100% idle. 
I'm running some perl scripts every five minutes, but that doesn't put too 
much load in the machine either. As a matter of fact, it's rare that the 
machine has a higher load of 0.15. And I'm running quite a bit of things on 
that machine (Apache, MySQL, Postfix, amavisd with spamassassin and clamav, 
RRDtool, SNMP, samba and some more stuff).

Though it's a Pentium 4 2 Ghz with 512 MB ram, but I don't have any other 
hardware. Figured I might as well make it a relatively fast machine.

Either way, I never want another server OS again. This is great.

Jorn
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Re: FreeBSD I LOVE YOU

2005-01-19 Thread Sergei Gnezdov
On 2005-01-19, faisal gillani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  Although I don't think FreeBSD with desktop OS but
> with server OS I more then recommend .

FreeBSD desktop has become better in the last 2 years.  Thanks to
applications like:

Gnome
Evolution
OpenOffice and AbiWord
Firefox
Thunderbird
GUI Instant Messenger app (I forgot its name)

I'd say that PDF support is good now.

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