installing openoffice by package
I tried unsuccessfully to build OpenOffice 2.0 on my 5.4 box. Never had enoudh space in /usr... I decided to install by package: # pkg_add -r openoffice.org It tried to install version 1.1.5... Anyway, trying to start it gives errors: # openoffice.org-1.1.5 /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libstdc++.so.5" not found, required by "javaldx" /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libstdc++.so.5" not found, required by "soffice.bin" Any ideas? Peter __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Creating a disklabel for NetBSD slice
Hi,
I have FreeBSD 6.1 and NetBSD 3.0 on my machine. I can make disklabel
entries (in NetBSD) for the FreeBSD partitions, and that way mount
them in NetBSD. Just a matter of giving the absolute offset values of
the partitions. But I cant find any straight forward way of mounting
NetBSD partitions under FreeBSD.
Doing "disklabel /dev/ad0s2" (my NetBSD slice) gives an error message
that there's no valid label to be found.
So I make up a disklabel for ad0s2. I get the NetBSD disklabel into a
file, edit it to make the number of partitions less than 8, remove all
the miscellaneous info, change all the offsets to relative values, and
then make a disklabel thus: "disklabel -R ad0s2 nbsd.txt" ("nbsd.txt"
being the file which contains the disklabels). After this the
disklabel is created fine, but when I boot into NetBSD, the disklabel
there is messed up and so NetBSD can't load.
I had a backup of the disklabels anyways (was expecting something like
this), so I managed to get it fixed. Booted into a NetBSD install CD
and restored the disklabel. And now when I boot into FreeBSD I see
that its lost whatever disklabel I had written.
So my question is this: is there any way I can get FreeBSD to create a
disklabel for ad0s2, but *not overwrite* the NetBSD one? I mean, I see
frequent references to "on-disk" label and "in-core" label in the
manpage, and I was wondering maybe its possible to create a disklabel
that's internal to FreeBSD and doesn't really overwrite the NetBSD
one. Is that possible? What are these "in-core" and "on-disk" labels
anyways?
Thanks,
Rakhesh
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RE: wikipedia article
>-Original Message- >From: Thor Lancelot Simon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 10:35 PM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt >Cc: misc@openbsd.org; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: wikipedia article > > >On Mon, Jun 12, 2006 at 10:27:33PM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >> >> What was the bit size of the CPU's originally used to write >UNIX in Bell >> Labs? > >Rather large. You can get all the details at >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_core. > That's a good one! :-) Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
[Fwd: formatting tools for Docbook]
This is a delayed reposting of something that I might have sent to an initially poorly chosen list; if it still gets no reponse in another day, I might try again, if I can figure out a better FreeBSD list to choose. My predilection for FreeBSD is strong, I would really dislike to be forced to jump to Linux (or, god forbid, to Windows) for this infomation, about using the various FreeBSD ports tools to get to the ability to format docbook materials. Original Message Subject:formatting tools for Docbook Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 16:31:58 -0400 From: Chuck Robey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am aware that there is more than a single set of tools that mgiht possibly be used to format Xml-docbook into html, pdf, and ascii, so I want to ask the advice of those FreeBSD'ers who have actually begun using docbook to format their own personal documents. You see, I have a very lnog-term history of usage of Groff-'s MM macros for my document formatting tasks, but I want to move to a more modern set of tools. That is specifically (today) docbook-4.[latest], and tomorrow is docbook-5.[latest]. I really would want, if possible, to avoid using any dsssl-based toolset. If there is a toolset that uses only libxml* based tools, that would really be the best, but I would be willing to consider adding in Java-based tools. One more item, if I can take you that far (or maybe, I;m admitting that if you answer this, I will be following it up with a small set of questions regarding the installation of docbook catalogs, and the installation paths I will be using (so if I must do any document patching, which I don't know enough about yet to predict, I can do that). Once I get it working under Java, you see, I am convinced I coudl (using a smallish postscript helper file) craft a toolset that no longer needs Java at all, but I need a working toolset before I can make that jump. Help me, please! Again, if you aren;'t using docbook yourself, pass this up, please, I only want to hear from those using the tools themselves, on the FreeBSD lists. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: FreeBSD is #1
>-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Danial Thom >Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 5:06 PM >To: Kris Kennaway >Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Beech Rintoul >Subject: Re: FreeBSD is #1 > > > > >--- Kris Kennaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Mon, Jun 12, 2006 at 02:36:24PM -0700, >> Danial Thom wrote: >> > Freebsd 4.x no doubt :) >> >> At this point FreeBSD 6.x has had way more >> intensive stress testing >> and QA by the project than 4.x did. It is >> stable. >> >> Kris >> > >I'm not saying that its not, only that I know a >lot of ISPs and more of them are running 4 than >6. In fact I know exactly 0 running 6. So >proclaiming that Freebsd is #1 without qualifying >what version they are running doesn't really say >anything. > We are running 6 on our news and radius server. In fact we are gradually switching over to 6.1 for a lot of things. But it takes a huge amount of time to move to new platforms, and it is not something your customers pay you for doing. Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: wikipedia article
On Mon, Jun 12, 2006 at 10:27:33PM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > What was the bit size of the CPU's originally used to write UNIX in Bell > Labs? Rather large. You can get all the details at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_core. -- Thor Lancelot Simon[EMAIL PROTECTED] "We cannot usually in social life pursue a single value or a single moral aim, untroubled by the need to compromise with others." - H.L.A. Hart ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: wikipedia article
>-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Thor >Lancelot Simon >Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 11:48 AM >To: Dale Rahn >Cc: misc@openbsd.org; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: wikipedia article > > >On Mon, Jun 12, 2006 at 10:23:06AM -0400, Dale Rahn wrote: >> On Sun, Jun 11, 2006 at 10:18:55PM -0700, Ted Unangst wrote: >> > On 6/11/06, Nikolas Britton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > > >> > >* IIRC NetBSD was a fork of FreeBSD >> > >> > that's an interesting theory when you consider that the first netbsd >> > release came out 8 months before the first freebsd release. >> > >> >> However, NetBSD was a fork of 386BSD0.1+patchkit, where the group >> developing the patchkit became FreeBSD. > >ITYM "some of" the group; I don't know where things would end >up by total >lines of code contributed, but I'd say NetBSD, FreeBSD and OpenBSD might >well end up about even. If you really want to pick nits, I could point >out that the patchkit maintainers received a pre-release >snapshot of NetBSD >0.8 well before the FreeBSD release, portions of which were incorporated >into FreeBSD without proper credit; so it would be wholly reasonable to >call FreeBSD a "fork" of NetBSD 0.8. > Cool, which portions? >Does it really matter? This whole discussion seems like a deliberate >effort to dredge up old rivalries and create bad feeling. It is all >ancient, ancient history now. > That is absolutely rediculous and you are the one trying to cause bad feeling. Just because your bored with the discussion doesn't give you the right to start singing kumbiya and the GNU share the software song and wet all over the rest of us. History is interesting in of it's own right. There was a lot of emotion involved in creating the operating systems. Without that emotion driving people to do things, the OSes would not have got done. To try to minimize this is to cheat the newbies to the system today of the rich heritage, and replace it with bland tasteless cardboard. It's just like the stupid replacement of the FreeBSD Beastie logo with the sex-toy logo. Blah, bland tasteless. All of this happened over a decade ago and many of the players that were involved aren't involved in any of the OSs anymore in a significant way If your not mature enough to deal with reading about 10 year old controversy, I suggest you go back to your Bernstain Bears books and stop bothering the adults. Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: ext2fs and NFS
On Wed, Oct 26, 2005 at 10:39:08PM +, Bob Hepple wrote: > I need to export an ext2fs file system mounted@/mnt/guest - it's a > removable IDE disc that I carry to & from my linux [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > "mount" shows: > > /dev/ad2s1 on /mnt/guest (ext2fs, local) > > So, I put an entry into /etc/exports: > > /mnt/guest -alldirs -network 192.168.254.0 -mask 255.255.255.0 > > and then: > > kill -s HUP `cat /var/run/mountd.pid` > > "showmount localhost" shows nothing and in /var/log/messages I have: > > Oct 27 11:36:01 raita kernel: ext2fs doesn't support the old mount syscall > Oct 27 11:36:01 raita mountd[417]: can't export /mnt/guest > Oct 27 11:36:01 raita mountd[417]: bad exports list line /mnt/guest -network > 192.168.254.0 -mask 255.255.255.0 > > ... so there's really no way to NFS export an ext2fs file system??? Hi, The mountd program in FreeBSD previously had some hard-coded restrictions on which filesystems it could export (ufs, msdosfs, cd9660, and ntfs). I converted the mountd program to use the nmount() syscall, and removed the hardcoded restrictions on what filesystems can be NFS exported. As long as the underlying filesystem supports NFS exporting, it should work. It should now work for ext2fs. If you cvsup to RELENG_6 or HEAD, you can get my changes, and if you can try them out and let me know if you have any problems, I would appreciate it. -- Craig Rodrigues [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD is #1
> While trying to introduce FreeBSD into a Micro$oft only house, I've heard the > following many times: > > "Never heard of FreeBSD" and "Show me some documentation and stats". > > Regardless of the actual version, the stats are accurate for those providers. > They reflect overall uptime and connectivity. This isn't about version, it's > about FreeBSD gaining a firmer foothold in a Micro$oft / Linux dominant > world. Personally, I'll take all the help I can get. > > 'nuff said, > > Beech > Here we try to offer the FreeBSD to the "concorrents" of the house... as the concorrents now have less cost, more reliable servers, and a good group/collaborative server running on FreeBSD 6.X.. htp://www.open-xchange.org they still can use the corporate software (via terminal server, rdesktop)... now they use internet (epiphany) email (evolution, linked with the open-xchange server) office (via openoffice 2.0.2) about 1200 thin clients (64Mb memory, 400mhz geode cpu...) and about 6 FreeBSD servers... soon they will have to rethink next year budget... it will be impossible to change 400 or more computers to 64 bit architeture for run next Microsoft vista... at about 1000 dollars (or more) for a hardware + software upgrade Only an upgrade of the Microsoft exchange server how much will cost??? Well the "concorrent" of the same business have it running now, on the laptops... running FreeBSD, gnome 2.15 with hal -> http://www.freedesktop.org How much does this all cost??? about 50 dollars/user/year.. including training... An average user (the less he know windows, better) is able to use the full power of the system with about 3 hours of trying... 90% of the users have been using the system with only the help from the "neighbors" ... Only the "best ones" (those who earn more salary, because have many "curses" from microsoft) were still looking for the "C" drive, or the "outlook" to use email... a day or two after... I know that there are advertyzing... in the news telling that using Microsoft is cheaper and better is up to you to believe... Here we used to say that Microsoft builds "full informational computerized tables" a table where you can scan, print, produce document, some work, play music, video, some games... But a bunch (no mather what is the number of...) tables does not means an "informated" company... I came from SUN... where the computer is the network... when i need something I get from the network... Why do I need a "printer driver" what is a "C" drive??? what is a zip??? how can a teen ager in a high school in another part of the world can spoil my computer??? why do I need to pay for protection??? Here in my country is illegal... All I want do to is to do my job... Lenzi ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD is #1
On Jun 12, 2006, at 6:06 PM, Danial Thom wrote: --- Kris Kennaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, Jun 12, 2006 at 02:36:24PM -0700, Danial Thom wrote: Freebsd 4.x no doubt :) At this point FreeBSD 6.x has had way more intensive stress testing and QA by the project than 4.x did. It is stable. Kris I'm not saying that its not, only that I know a lot of ISPs and more of them are running 4 than 6. In fact I know exactly 0 running 6. So proclaiming that Freebsd is #1 without qualifying what version they are running doesn't really say anything. We're small but we're running 6.0/6.1 plus a couple of Solaris 10 machines for specific purposes. Chad --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD is #1
On Monday 12 June 2006 16:06, Danial Thom wrote: > --- Kris Kennaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 12, 2006 at 02:36:24PM -0700, > > > > Danial Thom wrote: > > > Freebsd 4.x no doubt :) > > > > At this point FreeBSD 6.x has had way more > > intensive stress testing > > and QA by the project than 4.x did. It is > > stable. > > > > Kris > > I'm not saying that its not, only that I know a > lot of ISPs and more of them are running 4 than > 6. In fact I know exactly 0 running 6. So > proclaiming that Freebsd is #1 without qualifying > what version they are running doesn't really say > anything. > While trying to introduce FreeBSD into a Micro$oft only house, I've heard the following many times: "Never heard of FreeBSD" and "Show me some documentation and stats". Regardless of the actual version, the stats are accurate for those providers. They reflect overall uptime and connectivity. This isn't about version, it's about FreeBSD gaining a firmer foothold in a Micro$oft / Linux dominant world. Personally, I'll take all the help I can get. 'nuff said, Beech -- --- Beech Rintoul - Sys. Administrator - [EMAIL PROTECTED] /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Alaska Paradise \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail | 201 East 9Th Avenue Ste.310 X - NO Word docs in e-mail | Anchorage, AK 99501 / \ - Please visit Alaska Paradise - http://www.alaskaparadise.com --- pgp87JOVTw8IN.pgp Description: PGP signature
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Re: FreeBSD is #1
--- Kris Kennaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jun 12, 2006 at 02:36:24PM -0700, > Danial Thom wrote: > > Freebsd 4.x no doubt :) > > At this point FreeBSD 6.x has had way more > intensive stress testing > and QA by the project than 4.x did. It is > stable. > > Kris > I'm not saying that its not, only that I know a lot of ISPs and more of them are running 4 than 6. In fact I know exactly 0 running 6. So proclaiming that Freebsd is #1 without qualifying what version they are running doesn't really say anything. DT __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Samba: very strange truncation error
i've come across this same problem with any windows machine connecting to my
samba machine. The windows machiens are looking for services... and will cause
that log output on every initial connection. You can either delete this key in
window registry:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\RemoteComputer\NameSpace\{D6277990-4C6A-11CF-8D87-00AA0060F5BF}
or a odd'er fix is to add this to my smb.conf
[.]
comment = windows work around
public = no
browseable = no
path = /tmp
now it finds a "." service that it can't browse so it doesn't list it. Helps
samba to not barf on every connection.
Not sure who to get this out to, or who to notify about this bug, but i've
found a lot of people with the same problems (google) but no fixes. And have
experienced this problem going from samba (no problems) to samba3.
in regards to question:
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/attachments/20030827/ef6539ad/attachment.bin--Ian
Steinmetz
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Re: Help redirect port
On 08 jun 2006, at 16:49, Vasili S. wrote: I try make redirect port by natd # natd -n ed1 -redirect_port tcp 192.168.1.100:80 8080 no work Not see traffic by tcpdump, Not see listen port (netstat or sockstat) why ? interfaces ~~~ ed1: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet A.B.C.D netmask 0xffc0 broadcast A.B.C. ether 00:02:44:08:74:7a de0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 192.168.1.100 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 ether 00:40:05:30:9f:ed media: autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active supported media: autoselect 100baseTX 100baseTX 10baseT/UT kernel: ~ options IPFIREWALL options IPDIVERT options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE ipfw ="OPEN" Thanks, Vasili Hey Vasili what are your firewall rules? you should divert traffic to have nat do any work... Arno ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
ATI Radeon Mobility 9000 Lf
Hello folks, I'm having a problem configuring an ATI Radeon mobility 9000 in a family member laptop (recently converted). It's working ok with the radeon driver and drm but im not able to set the resolution to what he used to use under windows. The current resolution is 1024x768 but the resolution used under windows was 1400x1050 (i havent googled for specifications, this info is based on the owners word). Info: FreeBSD tigrao 6.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE #0: Mon May 22 08:46:45 PDT 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 ## Copyright (c) 1992-2006 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE #0: Mon May 22 08:46:45 PDT 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.20GHz (2192.90-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf29 Stepping = 9 Features=0xbfebf9ff Features2=0x4400> real memory = 267911168 (255 MB) avail memory = 248418304 (236 MB) kbd1 at kbdmux0 acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) acpi_ec0: port 0x62,0x66 on acpi0 Timecounter "ACPI-safe" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x1008-0x100b on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 acpi_button0: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 agp0: mem 0xe800-0xefff at device 0.0 on pci0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci_link0: BIOS IRQ 4 for 1.0.INTA is invalid pci1: on pcib1 drm0: port 0x2000-0x20ff mem 0xf000-0xf7ff,0xe000-0xe000 irq 9 at device 0.0 on pci1 info: [drm] AGP at 0xe800 128MB info: [drm] Initialized radeon 1.19.0 20050911 pcib2: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci2: on pcib2 rl0: port 0x3000-0x30ff mem 0xe0100800-0xe01008ff irq 10 at device 3.0 on pci2 miibus0: on rl0 rlphy0: on miibus0 rlphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto rl0: Ethernet address: 00:50:eb:02:96:2d cbb0: at device 4.0 on pci2 cardbus0: on cbb0 pccard0: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb0 fwohci0: mem 0xe010-0xe01007ff irq 11 at device 4.1 on pci2 fwohci0: OHCI version 1.0 (ROM=1) fwohci0: No. of Isochronous channels is 4. fwohci0: EUI64 00:50:eb:02:00:00:96:2d fwohci0: Phy 1394a available S400, 2 ports. fwohci0: Link S400, max_rec 2048 bytes. firewire0: on fwohci0 fwe0: on firewire0 if_fwe0: Fake Ethernet address: 02:50:eb:00:96:2d fwe0: Ethernet address: 02:50:eb:00:96:2d fwe0: if_start running deferred for Giant sbp0: on firewire0 fwohci0: Initiate bus reset fwohci0: node_id=0xc800ffc0, gen=1, CYCLEMASTER mode firewire0: 1 nodes, maxhop <= 0, cable IRM = 0 (me) firewire0: bus manager 0 (me) isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0x1440-0x144f at device 31.1 on pci0 ata0: on atapci0 ata1: on atapci0 uhci0: port 0x1400-0x141f irq 5 at device 31.2 on pci0 uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered pci0: at device 31.3 (no driver attached) uhci1: port 0x1420-0x143f irq 11 at device 31.4 on pci0 uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered pcm0: port 0x1200-0x12ff,0x1300-0x133f at device 31.5 on pci0 pcm0: pci0: at device 31.6 (no driver attached) acpi_lid0: on acpi0 atkbdc0: port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 sio0 port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 drq 3 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A ppc0: port 0x378-0x37f,0x778-0x77f irq 7 drq 1 on acpi0 ppc0: Generic chipset (ECP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/8 bytes threshold ppbus0: on ppc0 plip0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus0 fdc0: port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 fdc0: [FAST] acpi_acad0: on acpi0 battery0: on acpi0 pmtimer0 on isa0 orm0: at iomem 0xc-0xcefff,0xcf000-0xc,0xd8000-0xdbfff,0xdc000-0xd on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa-0xb on isa0 Timecounter "TSC" frequency 2192904992 Hz quality 800 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec ad0: 28615MB at ata0-master UDMA100 acd0: CDRW at ata1-master UDMA33 cd0 at ata1 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device cd0: 33.000MB/s transfers cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a #
Re: wikipedia article
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Re: wikipedia article
* Constantine A. Murenin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-06-12 15:07]: > On 11/06/06, Hamorszky Balazs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >I'm looking for some help on an article on wikipedia. > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_open_source_operating_systems > > Whilst there, what about another important article that seems to have > a Linux POV? > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Open_Source_Wireless_Drivers > ;) No just expand http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blob to add a proper definition for "Binary Blob" as that last entry on the page there. -Bob ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: wikipedia article
On Nov 1, 6:11pm, "Ted Mittelstaedt" wrote: } } Prior to the release of the 80386 the Intel processors didn't have } memory protection which was a requirement of any processor running } the BSD kernel. This is not entirely true. The 80286 had memory protection. However, its memory protection was completely based on segments (i.e. it could not do paging). Also, it was only a 16 bit processor. These two items combined to make it very difficult to run a modern Unix-like system. However, it did run Xenix as well as various other systems. The 80386 was the first processor with paging (which all modern virtual memory systems are based around) and 32 bits. }-- End of excerpt from "Ted Mittelstaedt" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: General Non-critical: FreeBSD media releases
Pavel Duda wrote: Justin T. Wert wrote: To Whom It May Concern: Are there any plans to release a DVD version of all 3 of your media CDs combined? I tried searching the web on how to combine the media into one DVD, but have failed to find a site that has a working method. My personal attempts have the same issue, where it asks for "disc 2" even though the files are available on the DVD. Do you know a procedure to do this correctly, or have DVD release available? I guess that difference between creating DVD image and CD image(s) shouldn't be so big. At least I can't see any limitation when you use same steps for building custom installation CDs (like the old one for r4 http://www.gsoft.com.au/~doconnor/FreeBSD-release-2.html). Most steps should be same for later versions. Only point where you will be requested to insert second CD is when you are installing some packages and you have incorrect INDEX file. Pavel Thank you in advance, Justin T. Wert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ha, someone (apologies for anonymizing you) just posted this one http://mexinetica.com/~lanjoe9/freebsd/bsd_dvd_howto.html or did you already try it? (apologies for anonymizing you, someone) Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD is #1
On Monday 12 June 2006 13:36, Danial Thom wrote: > Freebsd 4.x no doubt :) > > --- Beech Rintoul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > I found this on Netcraft and thought I'd share > > it: > > > > Six Hosting Companies Most Reliable Hoster in > > May. > > > > Six hosting companies share the top spot this > > month, with INetU, Hostway, > > IPower, New York Internet, Pair Networks > > andTiscali all sharing the top spot > > as the most reliable hosting company site this > > month. > > > > The six-way tie is a first for the reliability > > survey, as three and even four > > providers have shared the top position in the > > past. The showing reflects a > > strong month for hosting reliability, as the > > winners each had just 0.01 > > percent of their DNS responses fail, just a > > hair short of a perfect showing. > > All six companies have finished atop the survey > > at least once previously. > > > > It was a particularly good month for providers > > hosting their home page on > > FreeBSD, four of whom (INetU, iPowerWeb, NY > > Internet and Pair Networks) > > shared the top spot with two hosts on Linux > > (Hostway and Tiscali). Overall, > > five Linux sites are found in the top 10 this > > month, four on FreeBSD and one > > on Windows. > > http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2006/06/06/six_hosting_companies_most_rel >iable_hoster_in_may.html > > > Way to go FreeBSD!! > > > > Beech Regardless of which version they're running, these kind of stats are invaluable when you're trying to convince some clueless manager that you want to switch their NT4 or 2K server to FreeBSD. --- Beech Rintoul - Sys. Administrator - [EMAIL PROTECTED] /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Alaska Paradise \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail | 201 East 9Th Avenue Ste.310 X - NO Word docs in e-mail | Anchorage, AK 99501 / \ - Please visit Alaska Paradise - http://www.alaskaparadise.com --- pgpYXXXlUj7cl.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: FreeBSD is #1
On Mon, Jun 12, 2006 at 02:36:24PM -0700, Danial Thom wrote: > Freebsd 4.x no doubt :) At this point FreeBSD 6.x has had way more intensive stress testing and QA by the project than 4.x did. It is stable. Kris pgp3Ibgo80nS3.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: FreeBSD is #1
Freebsd 4.x no doubt :) --- Beech Rintoul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I found this on Netcraft and thought I'd share > it: > > Six Hosting Companies Most Reliable Hoster in > May. > > Six hosting companies share the top spot this > month, with INetU, Hostway, > IPower, New York Internet, Pair Networks > andTiscali all sharing the top spot > as the most reliable hosting company site this > month. > > The six-way tie is a first for the reliability > survey, as three and even four > providers have shared the top position in the > past. The showing reflects a > strong month for hosting reliability, as the > winners each had just 0.01 > percent of their DNS responses fail, just a > hair short of a perfect showing. > All six companies have finished atop the survey > at least once previously. > > It was a particularly good month for providers > hosting their home page on > FreeBSD, four of whom (INetU, iPowerWeb, NY > Internet and Pair Networks) > shared the top spot with two hosts on Linux > (Hostway and Tiscali). Overall, > five Linux sites are found in the top 10 this > month, four on FreeBSD and one > on Windows. > > http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2006/06/06/six_hosting_companies_most_reliable_hoster_in_may.html > > Way to go FreeBSD!! > > Beech > -- > > --- > Beech Rintoul - Sys. Administrator - > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Alaska Paradise > \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail | 201 East 9Th > Avenue Ste.310 > X - NO Word docs in e-mail | Anchorage, AK > 99501 > / \ - Please visit Alaska Paradise - > http://www.alaskaparadise.com > --- > > > > > > > > > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: man pages in plain text - how to?
On Fri, 9 Jun 2006 15:28:07 -0400 , Charles Swiger wrote: > On Jun 9, 2006, at 3:01 PM, Wayne wrote: >> Was wondering how to get "man" to output pages in plain text? I want >> the basic formating (indentation & whatnot) but NOT the bold and other >> special effects. Just ascii text I can grep through. I tried setting >> the terminal type to "dumb" and the stupid thing still tries to do >> back-space overstrike bolding (jeesh - even LA-120s had fancier print >> capabilities than that, IIRC.) The easiest way to do it, I believe, is with col . (Just try 'man col' to check all the options.) I have used 'man topic | col -b' to see the man page for topic with all the egregious stuff removed, and I just append to the pipeline '>topic.man' if I want to save it. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
FreeBSD is #1
I found this on Netcraft and thought I'd share it: Six Hosting Companies Most Reliable Hoster in May. Six hosting companies share the top spot this month, with INetU, Hostway, IPower, New York Internet, Pair Networks andTiscali all sharing the top spot as the most reliable hosting company site this month. The six-way tie is a first for the reliability survey, as three and even four providers have shared the top position in the past. The showing reflects a strong month for hosting reliability, as the winners each had just 0.01 percent of their DNS responses fail, just a hair short of a perfect showing. All six companies have finished atop the survey at least once previously. It was a particularly good month for providers hosting their home page on FreeBSD, four of whom (INetU, iPowerWeb, NY Internet and Pair Networks) shared the top spot with two hosts on Linux (Hostway and Tiscali). Overall, five Linux sites are found in the top 10 this month, four on FreeBSD and one on Windows. http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2006/06/06/six_hosting_companies_most_reliable_hoster_in_may.html Way to go FreeBSD!! Beech -- --- Beech Rintoul - Sys. Administrator - [EMAIL PROTECTED] /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Alaska Paradise \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail | 201 East 9Th Avenue Ste.310 X - NO Word docs in e-mail | Anchorage, AK 99501 / \ - Please visit Alaska Paradise - http://www.alaskaparadise.com --- pgp6h3rkHZY4S.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Im new to FreeBSD
Jason, 15000 freeware applications. Read about the ports collection. Please read the manual. It is an excellent piece of work. Paul On Monday 12 June 2006 11:10, JASON HOWARD wrote: > Im very new to this and have some questions,Im looking for an operationg > system to replace windows Xp on my computer.My computer has a celeron > processor and 512 megabytes of memory.Is this enought to run freeBSD ?.And > also,I have many applications,will they be compatible with freeBSD or will > BSD come with everything I will need? (word processor,internet > browser,ECT)... > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: hardware raid suggestions
If you go SATA RAID, I've had good luck and good speed with RocketRaid 1820 cards. P. On Monday 12 June 2006 14:29, pete wright wrote: > On 6/12/06, Philip M. Gollucci <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Nikolas Britton wrote: > > > On 6/12/06, Philip M. Gollucci <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Hi, > > >> > > >> I've got a dell power edge 600sc. (I realize thats getting old) > > >> I'm running FreeBSD 6.1-release. > > >> > > >> I'm looking for suggestions for a good raid setup > > >> both controls and disks. I'd like to use hardware raid and not > > >> software. > > >> > > >> I'm more interested in the performance from raid then the redundancy. > > >> > > >> Its mainly if not exclusively going to be used for compilations of > > >> software ASF software. Ideally, I'd like to NFS mount its disk on my > > >> desktop over a local gigabit lan. > > >> > > >> Any pointers appreciated. > > >> > > >> I'm willing spend up to about $1,000. > > > > > > How much space do you want? > > > > 500GB->1TB is probably way more then I need, but I won't complain. > > > > I think 250GB should be good. > > I have had good luck with LSI RAID cards (hardware reliability wise). > You may want to check the archives for fully supported, non-GIANT > locked cards. From a performance perspective I would invest in a card > with ample onboard ram 128megs or greater, and investigate getting a > BBU unit for the card as well. > > -pete ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: seeking advice on building jdk15
On 6/12/06, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I succeeded in building jdk14 instead. My manual downloads were:
j2sdk-1_4_2_11-linux-i586.bin
j2sdk-1_4_2-bin-scsl.zip
j2sdk-1_4_2-src-scsl.zip
bsd-jdk14-patches-8.tar.gz
The port instructions added an extra step. It had me mount a simulated
linux proc filesystem:
linprocfs on /usr/compat/linux/proc (linprocfs, local)
I am now in the middle of compiling OpenOffice which was my original
goal.
What is the bootstrap you speak of?
Right here in the jdk15 Makefile:
.if !defined(WITH_LINUX_BOOTSTRAP)
.if ${MACHINE_ARCH} == "i386"
NATIVE_BOOTSTRAP_JDKS+= ${LOCALBASE}/diablo-jdk1.5.0
.endif
NATIVE_BOOTSTRAP_JDKS+= ${LOCALBASE}/jdk1.5.0 \
${LOCALBASE}/jdk1.4.2
.endif
If you install the diablo-jdk15 port first you can use it to build the
jdk15 port (bootstrapping) and you won't need to mess with
linux-sun-jdk14. After your done installing jdk15 you can remove
diablo-jdk15 from the system, it's only a build requirement and now
that jdk15 is built and installed you can use that to bootstrap future
jdk15 builds.
So... it's really simple:
# cd /usr/ports/java/diablo-jdk15; make install
# cd ../jdk15; make install clean
# cd ../diablo-jdk15; make deinstall clean
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Re: seeking advice on building jdk15
I succeeded in building jdk14 instead. My manual downloads were: j2sdk-1_4_2_11-linux-i586.bin j2sdk-1_4_2-bin-scsl.zip j2sdk-1_4_2-src-scsl.zip bsd-jdk14-patches-8.tar.gz The port instructions added an extra step. It had me mount a simulated linux proc filesystem: linprocfs on /usr/compat/linux/proc (linprocfs, local) I am now in the middle of compiling OpenOffice which was my original goal. What is the bootstrap you speak of? Peter --- Nikolas Britton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 6/12/06, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi gang. I'm running FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE and want to run OpenOffice > but > > I discovered I needed Java first. I updated my port tree and > followed > > the port instructions to manually download the ingredients from Sun > and > > store them in /usr/ports/distfiles: > > > > bsd-jdk15-patches-3.tar.bz2 > > jdk-1_5_0-bin-scsl.zip > > jdk-1_5_0-src-scsl.zip > > j2sdk-1_4_2_11-linux-i586.bin > > > > After much compilin' activity I woke up this morning with a failed > > build. It ended with: > > > > Bootstrap with diablo-jdk15, linux-sun-jdk14 is a pain in the ass. > > -- > BSD Podcasts @: > http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/ > http://freebsdforall.blogspot.com/ > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: setting log_arp_movements to 0 at boot time
Al wrote: > My message log gets flooded by arp movement notices, but I'm able to > turn off these messages using the following command: > sysctl net.link.ether.inet.log_arp_movements=0 > > I read somewhere that I can add this line in my /boot/loader.conf file > to keep it set at boot time: > net.link.ether.inet.log_arp_movements: 0 > > But that doesn't seem to work. Any ideas? I'm running 5.4-RELEASE-p9 Try add the line net.link.ether.inet.log_arp_movements=0 to /etc/sysctl.conf man 5 sysctl.conf for more info. Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: http://www.locolomo.org X.509 Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/8D03551FFCE04F0C.crt Key ID: 69:79:B8:2C:E3:8F:E7:BE:5D:C3:C3:B1:74:62:B8:3F:9F:1F:69:B9 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Freebsd-Devel
At 10:46 AM -0400 6/11/06, Jim Stapleton wrote: I was looking at the mailing list, and I couldn't find a "freebsd-devel" list, though I thought I heard of one's existance. What am I missing here? I'm looking here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-MAIL FreeBSD development covers a wide range of issues, so there are multiple mailing lists each of which covers some aspect of freebsd development. There are two main branches of development for the operating system itself, and each has it's own mailing list. The "bleeding-edge" development happens in the branch known as freebsd-current, while the more-tested branch is called freebsd-stable. And there's a mailing list for each of those. The freebsd-hackers mailing list is another busy mailing list which covers a lot of other issues about programming on FreeBSD. Almost all of the mailing lists which you see listed on the above web page are related to *some* aspect of freebsd development. Which mailing list you would like depends on what kind of development you are interested in. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn= [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Systems Programmer or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rensselaer Polytechnic Instituteor [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: wikipedia article
On Mon, Jun 12, 2006 at 02:48:07PM -0400, Thor Lancelot Simon wrote: > Does it really matter? This whole discussion seems like a deliberate > effort to dredge up old rivalries and create bad feeling. It is all > ancient, ancient history now. I doubt this was the original intention, but it looks like it's headed that way... At this point in time it seems like there's a fair amount of porting, backpatching, and code sharing between the BSDs. Who came first has less to do with anything than the philosophy and focus of each project today, and how well it fits with a particular application. If the wikipedia article helps people determine suitability for a purpose then it's worthwhile. The history is already out there, and can be included or merely linked to. -- Darrin Chandler| Phoenix BSD Users Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://bsd.phoenix.az.us/ http://www.stilyagin.com/ | ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: wikipedia article
On Mon, Jun 12, 2006 at 10:23:06AM -0400, Dale Rahn wrote: > On Sun, Jun 11, 2006 at 10:18:55PM -0700, Ted Unangst wrote: > > On 6/11/06, Nikolas Britton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >* IIRC NetBSD was a fork of FreeBSD > > > > that's an interesting theory when you consider that the first netbsd > > release came out 8 months before the first freebsd release. > > > > However, NetBSD was a fork of 386BSD0.1+patchkit, where the group > developing the patchkit became FreeBSD. ITYM "some of" the group; I don't know where things would end up by total lines of code contributed, but I'd say NetBSD, FreeBSD and OpenBSD might well end up about even. If you really want to pick nits, I could point out that the patchkit maintainers received a pre-release snapshot of NetBSD 0.8 well before the FreeBSD release, portions of which were incorporated into FreeBSD without proper credit; so it would be wholly reasonable to call FreeBSD a "fork" of NetBSD 0.8. Does it really matter? This whole discussion seems like a deliberate effort to dredge up old rivalries and create bad feeling. It is all ancient, ancient history now. Thor ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: wikipedia article
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006, Mipam wrote: On Sun, 11 Jun 2006, Nikolas Britton wrote: [SNIP] * IIRC NetBSD was a fork of FreeBSD, OpenBSD was a fork of NetBSD. Eeh? I believe NetBSD was there half a year before FreeBSD. Bye, Mipam. From what I remember, I thought it was 386BSD split off into FreeBSD and NetBSD somewhere in the early 90's, then OpenBSD came from NetBSD in the early to mid 90's. -Garrett ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: gmirror problem
Thanks for the reply. Sorry for not providing enough information. I have figured it out. thanks again. dayton > "Brian" == Brian A Seklecki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> plenty of simply things. Anyway, is a mis-configuration a likely or >> possible cause of this behavior. Brian> It's hard to even speculate without seeing an error message. Brian> Paste here or pastebin.com? Brian> Thanks, ~BAS ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: hardware raid suggestions
On 6/12/06, Philip M. Gollucci <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Nikolas Britton wrote: > On 6/12/06, Philip M. Gollucci <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I've got a dell power edge 600sc. (I realize thats getting old) >> I'm running FreeBSD 6.1-release. >> >> I'm looking for suggestions for a good raid setup >> both controls and disks. I'd like to use hardware raid and not software. >> >> I'm more interested in the performance from raid then the redundancy. >> >> Its mainly if not exclusively going to be used for compilations of >> software ASF software. Ideally, I'd like to NFS mount its disk on my >> desktop over a local gigabit lan. >> >> Any pointers appreciated. >> >> I'm willing spend up to about $1,000. >> > > How much space do you want? 500GB->1TB is probably way more then I need, but I won't complain. I think 250GB should be good. I have had good luck with LSI RAID cards (hardware reliability wise). You may want to check the archives for fully supported, non-GIANT locked cards. From a performance perspective I would invest in a card with ample onboard ram 128megs or greater, and investigate getting a BBU unit for the card as well. -pete -- ~~o0OO0o~~ Pete Wright www.nycbug.org NYC's *BSD User Group ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Freebsd-Devel
On Jun 11, 2006, at 10:46 AM, Jim Stapleton wrote: I was looking at the mailing list, and I couldn't find a "freebsd-devel" list, though I thought I heard of one's existance. What am I missing here? There are lots of FreeBSD mailing lists oriented towards developers, but they tend to be focussed on a specific area (freebsd-net, -ipfw, - ip, etc...aka the "technical lists"). Perhaps you want freebsd- hackers...? -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: hardware raid suggestions
On 6/12/06, Philip M. Gollucci <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Nikolas Britton wrote: > On 6/12/06, Philip M. Gollucci <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I've got a dell power edge 600sc. (I realize thats getting old) >> I'm running FreeBSD 6.1-release. >> >> I'm looking for suggestions for a good raid setup >> both controls and disks. I'd like to use hardware raid and not software. >> >> I'm more interested in the performance from raid then the redundancy. >> >> Its mainly if not exclusively going to be used for compilations of >> software ASF software. Ideally, I'd like to NFS mount its disk on my >> desktop over a local gigabit lan. >> >> Any pointers appreciated. >> >> I'm willing spend up to about $1,000. >> > > How much space do you want? 500GB->1TB is probably way more then I need, but I won't complain. I think 250GB should be good. That server has 64-bit/33MHz PCI-X slots. At most you have about 105MB/s to work with, assuming your gigiabit NIC also sits on this bus. I feel that SCSI / SAS would be overkill for your needs because you can't take advantage of it's speed, this leaves you with SATA. -- BSD Podcasts @: http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/ http://freebsdforall.blogspot.com/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Freebsd-Devel
On Sunday 11 June 2006 10:46, Jim Stapleton wrote: > I was looking at the mailing list, and I couldn't find a > "freebsd-devel" list, though I thought I heard of one's existance. > What am I missing here? Try freebsd-hackers and freebsd-current, also freebsd-bugs should be intereting. > [SNIP] Best regards... -- . 0 . | Daniel Molina Wegener . . 0 | dmw at unete dot cl 0 0 0 | FreeBSD User ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Freeze
On Sun, 11 Jun 2006, NgD Vulto wrote: 2006/6/11, Garrett Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On Jun 11, 2006, at 3:07 PM, NgD Vulto wrote: > I just hate when it happens. > > I am here on tty1, then I go to tty2...3...and It's ok, but if I keep > changing the tty, sometimes when I change the tty it freezes, my > screen gets > black, and my cpu leds start to blink. > > Specially when I am on X and I want to go to some tty1. > > There are systems that have a "sleep" function which when pressed > the sleep > button of the keyboard it waits the "wake up" button to wake up, it > seems to > me like it's sleeping, but the wake up button doesn't work, neither I > pressed the sleep button. > > I was using the FeeBSD 6.0 and I thought it was a bug, but now I am > using > the freebsd 6.1 and It still bothers me. > > Somehow I believe I did not lose the system's control, I believe > it's just > waiting me to call it up again, just don't know how, and I wonder > why it > happens. > > If I wasn't too clear, ask me anything and I can make it clear :) > > PS: My computer is new and it's all ok, I do use linux also and I > had never > any kind of problem like that there, I'm totally sure It's not my > hardware, > when I say I am totally sure, I really mean it. > > :) Hardware specs? Computer maker (if there is one)? -Garrett What do you mean with "computer maker" ? Dude, I repeat, it has nothing to do with my hardware, I have a semprom 2.6GHZ. 512 MB (memory) 60gb (hd) ...and It happened to my old computer also, but I upgraded to my semprom. It's something about the tty, because it never happened out of there, just when I change the tty so much... Thanks. 'Dude', it may very well have to deal with who makes your motherboard and how it is supported in FreeBSD. Don't assume that since you have an AMD chipset you are unaffected and just because you don't have problems in one OS, doesn't mean that your problems will be universally unexistent in all OSes. If and when you are asking a question hardware related, it is helpful if you provide information on this list as to what hardware you have, what version of FreeBSD you are running (uname -a does the trick), and some information as to what you have compiled into your kernel (linking to another site with your kernel conf is the best way to deal with that issue). So, again... (and a bit more defined/directed this time in my question, I admit), do you know who makes your motherboard and also are you sure that the BIOS is completely updated? -Garrett ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
serversidefilter script problem
Hi, According to http://perlstalker.amigo.net/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=serversidefilter%20on%20FreeBSD to compile the serversidefilter(squirremail) script I must have installed the ports: /usr/ports/security/krb5 /usr/ports/security/heimdal /usr/ports/security/pam_krb5 I've installed krb5 without problems but with heimdal I got this error: ===> Installing for krb5-1.4.3 ===> krb5-1.4.3 conflicts with installed package(s): heimdal-0.6.3_3 They install files into the same place. Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1). *** Error code 1 What do I do now? Thanks, Efren Bravo. - Fight back spam! Download the Blue Frog. http://www.bluesecurity.com/register/s?user=ZWZyZW5iYQ%3D%3D __ Correo Yahoo! Espacio para todos tus mensajes, antivirus y antispam ¡gratis! Regístrate ya - http://correo.yahoo.es ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Freebsd-Devel
I was looking at the mailing list, and I couldn't find a "freebsd-devel" list, though I thought I heard of one's existance. What am I missing here? I'm looking here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-MAIL Thanks, -Jim ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Compiler error during compilation of liboil
On Monday 12 June 2006 18:24, dgmm wrote: > On Monday 12 June 2006 15:06, michael johnson wrote: > > On 6/12/06, Ewald Jenisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > During a regular portupgrade I ran into a problem during compiling > > > liboil: During compilation of composite_sse_2pix.c in > > > /usr/ports/devel/liboil/work/liboil-0.3.9/liboil/sse I get a gcc > > > compiler error. For the exact details see attached file. > > > > I just committed a fix. =) > > Thank you. I was about to post the same problem after it failed on me last > night ;-) Oops. Spoke too soon. portupgrade liboil ===> Patching for liboil-0.3.9 ===> liboil-0.3.9 depends on executable: gcc34 - not found ===>Verifying install for gcc34 in /usr/ports/lang/gcc34 Making GCC 3.4.6 for FreeBSD 5.4 target=i386-portbld-freebsd5.4 ===> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found ===> Extracting for gcc-3.4.6,1 => MD5 Checksum OK for gcc-core-3.4.6.tar.bz2. => SHA256 Checksum OK for gcc-core-3.4.6.tar.bz2. => MD5 Checksum OK for gcc-g++-3.4.6.tar.bz2. => SHA256 Checksum OK for gcc-g++-3.4.6.tar.bz2. => MD5 Checksum OK for gcc-g77-3.4.6.tar.bz2. => SHA256 Checksum OK for gcc-g77-3.4.6.tar.bz2. => MD5 Checksum OK for gcc-objc-3.4.6.tar.bz2. => SHA256 Checksum OK for gcc-objc-3.4.6.tar.bz2. => MD5 Checksum OK for gcc-testsuite-3.4.6.tar.bz2. => SHA256 Checksum OK for gcc-testsuite-3.4.6.tar.bz2. ===> gcc-3.4.6,1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.8 - found gcc/ggc-common.c -o ggc-common.o cc -c -g -DIN_GCC -W -Wall -Wwrite-strings -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -pedantic -Wno-long-long-DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I/usr/local/include -I. -I. -I.././..//gcc-3.4.6/gcc -I.././..//gcc-3.4.6/gcc/. -I.././..//gcc-3.4.6/gcc/../include .././..//gcc-3.4.6/gcc/global.c -o global.o cc -c -g -DIN_GCC -W -Wall -Wwrite-strings -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -pedantic -Wno-long-long-DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I/usr/local/include -I. -I. -I.././..//gcc-3.4.6/gcc -I.././..//gcc-3.4.6/gcc/. -I.././..//gcc-3.4.6/gcc/../include .././..//gcc-3.4.6/gcc/graph.c -o graph.o cc -c -g -DIN_GCC -W -Wall -Wwrite-strings -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -pedantic -Wno-long-long-DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I/usr/local/include -I. -I. -I.././..//gcc-3.4.6/gcc -I.././..//gcc-3.4.6/gcc/. -I.././..//gcc-3.4.6/gcc/../include gtype-desc.c -o gtype-desc.o gtype-desc.c: In function `gt_ggc_mx_cgraph_varpool_node': gtype-desc.c:51: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type gtype-desc.c:51: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type gtype-desc.c:52: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type gtype-desc.c:52: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type gtype-desc.c: In function `gt_ggc_mx_cgraph_edge': gtype-desc.c:62: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type gtype-desc.c:62: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type gtype-desc.c:63: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type gtype-desc.c:63: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type gtype-desc.c:64: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type gtype-desc.c:64: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type gtype-desc.c:65: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type gtype-desc.c:65: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type gtype-desc.c: In function `gt_ggc_mx_cgraph_node': gtype-desc.c:75: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type gtype-desc.c:79: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type gtype-desc.c:86: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type gtype-desc.c:86: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type gtype-desc.c:87: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type gtype-desc.c:87: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type gtype-desc.c:88: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type gtype-desc.c:88: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type gtype-desc.c:89: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type gtype-desc.c:89: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type gtype-desc.c:90: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type gtype-desc.c:90: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type gtype-desc.c:91: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type gtype-desc.c:91: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type gtype-desc.c:92: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type gtype-desc.c:92: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type gtype-desc.c:93: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type gtype-desc.c:93: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type gtype-desc.c:94: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type gtype-desc.c:94: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type gtype-desc.c:95: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type gtype-desc.c: In function `gt_pch_nx_cgraph_varpool_node': gtype-desc.c:1287: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type gtype-desc.c:1287: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type gtype-desc.c:1288: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type gtype-desc.c:1288: error: derefere
Re: hardware raid suggestions
Nikolas Britton wrote: On 6/12/06, Philip M. Gollucci <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, I've got a dell power edge 600sc. (I realize thats getting old) I'm running FreeBSD 6.1-release. I'm looking for suggestions for a good raid setup both controls and disks. I'd like to use hardware raid and not software. I'm more interested in the performance from raid then the redundancy. Its mainly if not exclusively going to be used for compilations of software ASF software. Ideally, I'd like to NFS mount its disk on my desktop over a local gigabit lan. Any pointers appreciated. I'm willing spend up to about $1,000. How much space do you want? 500GB->1TB is probably way more then I need, but I won't complain. I think 250GB should be good. Thanks. -- Philip M. Gollucci ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 323.219.4708 Consultant / http://p6m7g8.net/Resume/resume.shtml Senior Software Engineer - TicketMaster - http://ticketmaster.com 1024D/A79997FA F357 0FDD 2301 6296 690F 6A47 D55A 7172 A799 97F "It takes a minute to have a crush on someone, an hour to like someone, and a day to love someone, but it takes a lifetime to forget someone..." ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Compiler error during compilation of liboil
On Monday 12 June 2006 15:06, michael johnson wrote: > On 6/12/06, Ewald Jenisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > During a regular portupgrade I ran into a problem during compiling > > liboil: During compilation of composite_sse_2pix.c in > > /usr/ports/devel/liboil/work/liboil-0.3.9/liboil/sse I get a gcc > > compiler error. For the exact details see attached file. > > I just committed a fix. =) Thank you. I was about to post the same problem after it failed on me last night ;-) -- Dave ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Long Shot - MSN Group chat room access
On Monday 12 June 2006 01:17, Garrett Cooper wrote: > Also, MS has been playing a cat and mouse game with the Wine people > for quite some time locking the Wine folks out by restricting > operating systems versions and software installations (DX9, IE, etc), > which has-for the most part-worked in MS's favor, but you may be > lucky and are able to access MSN chat on FreeBSD by some oversight by > a dev somewhere ;). After spending a couple of hours with Wine docs I'm thinking that looks like a daunting task. I'm now looking at a possible qemu solution thanks to another poster on the list. At worst, Win98se is good enough as a dedicated box just for MSN. It's already behind a dedicated firewall and I could always route through a proxy and limit it to msn.com sites only if necessary. Seeing how this thread has progressed, maybe I should have posted to the emulation list in the first place ;-) -- Dave ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Im new to FreeBSD
On Monday 12 June 2006 12:52, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > why do all of these e-mails show up in my inboxxx > please lemme know You have subscribed your self to the mailing list... > [SNIP] Best regards... -- . 0 . | Daniel Molina Wegener . . 0 | dmw at unete dot cl 0 0 0 | FreeBSD User ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Im new to FreeBSD
On Mon, Jun 12, 2006 at 12:52:48PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > why do all of these e-mails show up in my inboxxx > please lemme know Where should they show up? > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" If you don't want to be subscribed to this list then see the above line starting with "To unsubscribe" -- Darrin Chandler| Phoenix BSD Users Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://bsd.phoenix.az.us/ http://www.stilyagin.com/ | ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: seeking advice on building jdk15
On 6/12/06, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi gang. I'm running FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE and want to run OpenOffice but I discovered I needed Java first. I updated my port tree and followed the port instructions to manually download the ingredients from Sun and store them in /usr/ports/distfiles: bsd-jdk15-patches-3.tar.bz2 jdk-1_5_0-bin-scsl.zip jdk-1_5_0-src-scsl.zip j2sdk-1_4_2_11-linux-i586.bin After much compilin' activity I woke up this morning with a failed build. It ended with: Bootstrap with diablo-jdk15, linux-sun-jdk14 is a pain in the ass. -- BSD Podcasts @: http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/ http://freebsdforall.blogspot.com/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FBSD 6.0 and ppp
> Hello jhall! > > Sun, Jun 11, 2006 at 07:03:35PM - you wrote: > >> OK. I added the -unit to ppplogin with no luck. >> >> ppplogin now contains >> >> #!/bin/sh >> /usr/sbin/ppp -direct -untit1 incoming >^ a typo? > And I don't have the ``incoming'' (the name of the system?) in my > config... > > -- > DoubleF > No virus detected in this message. Ehrm, wait a minute... > /kernel: pid 56921 (antivirus), uid 32000: exited on signal 9 > Oh yes, no virus:) > Still no luck. I am still not seeing tun1 opened when an incoming call is answered. Would it be possible for you to post a copy of your ppp.conf, /etc/gettytab and ppplogin? Thanks, Jay ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Im new to FreeBSD
why do all of these e-mails show up in my inboxxx please lemme know -Original Message- From: JASON HOWARD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Sent: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 08:10:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Im new to FreeBSD Im very new to this and have some questions,Im looking for an operationg system to replace windows Xp on my computer.My computer has a celeron processor and 512 megabytes of memory.Is this enought to run freeBSD ?.And also,I have many applications,will they be compatible with freeBSD or will BSD come with everything I will need? (word processor,internet browser,ECT)... __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: hardware raid suggestions
On 6/12/06, Philip M. Gollucci <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, I've got a dell power edge 600sc. (I realize thats getting old) I'm running FreeBSD 6.1-release. I'm looking for suggestions for a good raid setup both controls and disks. I'd like to use hardware raid and not software. I'm more interested in the performance from raid then the redundancy. Its mainly if not exclusively going to be used for compilations of software ASF software. Ideally, I'd like to NFS mount its disk on my desktop over a local gigabit lan. Any pointers appreciated. I'm willing spend up to about $1,000. How much space do you want? -- BSD Podcasts @: http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/ http://freebsdforall.blogspot.com/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
mtree(8): bug/compatibility with flags
hi, played around with mtree to save/restore directory/file permissions/owner/flags on demand. current "save" method is: mtree -c -i -n -x -p $h_dir -k type,flags,mode,uid,gid,link >$h_file; current "restore" method is: mtree -U -e -n -q -x -p $h_dir -k type,flags,mode,uid,gid,link <$h_file; save works perfectly, changing back uids and modes works, too. the problem: if you do this after you saved the mtree: chflags schg /any_mtree_file you have to run the mtree-restore twice, because mtree tries to set the mode 1st (which fails because of schg), and then removes the schg flags. so on the 2nd run, the mode would be set, but this is odd ;-) could it be better if mtree restores the permissions as they are listed by the keywords? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: Im new to FreeBSD
Im very new to this and have some questions,Im looking for an operationg system to replace windows Xp on my computer.My computer has a celeron processor and 512 megabytes of memory.Is this enought to run freeBSD ?.And also,I have many applications,will they be compatible with freeBSD or will BSD come with everything I will need? (word processor,internet browser,ECT)... Also check a popular run-up PCBSD http://www.pcbsd.org/ which probably will serve you best if you're looking for replacement desktop, easy to install and configure. Tamouh ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Im new to FreeBSD
JASON HOWARD wrote: > Im very new to this and have some questions,Im looking for an operationg > system to replace windows Xp on my computer.My computer has a celeron > processor and 512 megabytes of memory.Is this enought to run freeBSD ?.And > also,I have many applications,will they be compatible with freeBSD or will > BSD come with everything I will need? (word processor,internet browser,ECT)... > > FreeBSD should work fine with your hardware. as to your software, do not expect anything you currently have to run in FreeBSD. However, there are TONS of applications included with FreeBSD via the Ports collection that can replace the programs you use now. OpenOffice, Firefox, etc. should work just fine for you. Good luck in your new OS search. FreeBSD is a great one! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: restoring deleted files
On 06/08/06 18:36, Phil Sweeney wrote: Can you tell me a simple way of retrieving recently deleted files? Regards Phil Sweeney Superior Pest Management P.O Box 68 www.superiorpest.com.au [EMAIL PROTECTED] H.R.M.C NSW 2310 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Not a lot of options here as others have hinted. But one thing that might help in the future is SoftUpdates+Snapshots. See the online handbook Section 17.14: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/snapshots.html You can take a daily snapshot, and if you accidentally delete a file... mount the snapshot, and recover it. Just an idea. -- Regards, Eric ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Im new to FreeBSD
Im very new to this and have some questions,Im looking for an operationg system to replace windows Xp on my computer.My computer has a celeron processor and 512 megabytes of memory.Is this enought to run freeBSD ?.And also,I have many applications,will they be compatible with freeBSD or will BSD come with everything I will need? (word processor,internet browser,ECT)... __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: wikipedia article
On Sun, Jun 11, 2006 at 10:18:55PM -0700, Ted Unangst wrote: > On 6/11/06, Nikolas Britton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >* IIRC NetBSD was a fork of FreeBSD > > that's an interesting theory when you consider that the first netbsd > release came out 8 months before the first freebsd release. > However, NetBSD was a fork of 386BSD0.1+patchkit, where the group developing the patchkit became FreeBSD. Dale Rahn [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
setting log_arp_movements to 0 at boot time
My message log gets flooded by arp movement notices, but I'm able to turn off these messages using the following command: sysctl net.link.ether.inet.log_arp_movements=0 I read somewhere that I can add this line in my /boot/loader.conf file to keep it set at boot time: net.link.ether.inet.log_arp_movements: 0 But that doesn't seem to work. Any ideas? I'm running 5.4-RELEASE-p9 -Al ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
qmail and hostnames
Hello. I have one problem: I dont know how to correctly configure qmail's hostnames, about primary domain for mail server (uclmd.net). I have router, whos got internal (192.168.99.1) and external/ global (193.93.193.193) IP. On that router i have port 25 forwarded to the main server with qmail (192.168.99.99/bsd.rxvkt.net). The domain (uclmd.net) is pointed to 193.93.193.193 like this: 1. mail. rxvkt.net A 193.93.193.193, 2. rxvkt.net MX 10:mail.rxvkt.net, 3. rxvkt.netA 193.93.193.193. (I think that this is correct, but im not sure.) So i dont how to configure qmail around setting host with './config', becouse when i do './config' it shows me this: Your hostname is bsd.rxvkt.net. hard error Sorry, I couldn't find your host's canonical name in DNS. You will have to set up control/me yourself. (i expected this problem, because server is behind NAT.) So, i tried './config-fast rxvkt.net', and it shows me this: Your fully qualified host name is rxvkt.net. Putting dealer.si into control/me... Putting dealer.si into control/defaultdomain... Putting dealer.si into control/plusdomain... Putting dealer.si into control/locals... Putting dealer.si into control/rcpthosts... Now qmail will refuse to accept SMTP messages except to rxvkt.net. Make sure to change rcpthosts if you add hosts to locals or virtualdomains! The point is, that qmail doesnt want to deliver any mail and i think that problem is maybe here. Thank you for answer, Have a nice day roy ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
seeking advice on building jdk15
Hi gang. I'm running FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE and want to run OpenOffice but I discovered I needed Java first. I updated my port tree and followed the port instructions to manually download the ingredients from Sun and store them in /usr/ports/distfiles: bsd-jdk15-patches-3.tar.bz2 jdk-1_5_0-bin-scsl.zip jdk-1_5_0-src-scsl.zip j2sdk-1_4_2_11-linux-i586.bin After much compilin' activity I woke up this morning with a failed build. It ended with: - ../../../src/share/classes/com/sun/jmx/mbeanserver/MBeanInstantiatorImpl.java:162: warning: non-varargs call of varargs method with inexact argument type forlast parameter; cast to java.lang.Object for a varargs call cast to java.lang.Object[] for a non-varargs call and to suppress this warning moi= cons.newInstance(null); ^ Note: * uses or overrides a deprecated API. Note: Recompile with -Xlint:deprecation for details. Note: Some input files use unchecked or unsafe operations. Note: Recompile with -Xlint:unchecked for details. 21 errors 12 warnings gmake[3]: *** [.compile.classlist] Error 1 gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/java/jdk15/work/j2se/make/java/java' gmake[2]: *** [all] Error 1 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/java/jdk15/work/j2se/make/java' gmake[1]: *** [all] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/java/jdk15/work/j2se/make' gmake: *** [j2se-build] Error 2 *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/java/jdk15. - The full error output is attached. Peter __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM warning: Can't detect initial thread stack location /usr/ports/java/jdk15/work/control/build/bsd-i586/gensrc/sun/nio/cs/StandardCharsets.java:226: expected Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM warning: Can't detect initial thread stack location ^ /usr/ports/java/jdk15/work/control/build/bsd-i586/gensrc/sun/nio/cs/StandardCharsets.java:226: unclosed character literal Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM warning: Can't detect initial thread stack location ^ /usr/ports/java/jdk15/work/control/build/bsd-i586/gensrc/sun/nio/cs/StandardCharsets.java:227: ')' expected private static final class Aliases ^ /usr/ports/java/jdk15/work/control/build/bsd-i586/gensrc/sun/nio/cs/StandardCharsets.java:389: expected Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM warning: Can't detect initial thread stack location ^ /usr/ports/java/jdk15/work/control/build/bsd-i586/gensrc/sun/nio/cs/StandardCharsets.java:389: unclosed character literal Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM warning: Can't detect initial thread stack location ^ /usr/ports/java/jdk15/work/control/build/bsd-i586/gensrc/sun/nio/cs/StandardCharsets.java:390: ')' expected private static final class Classes ^ /usr/ports/java/jdk15/work/control/build/bsd-i586/gensrc/sun/nio/cs/StandardCharsets.java:429: expected Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM warning: Can't detect initial thread stack location ^ /usr/ports/java/jdk15/work/control/build/bsd-i586/gensrc/sun/nio/cs/StandardCharsets.java:429: unclosed character literal Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM warning: Can't detect initial thread stack location ^ /usr/ports/java/jdk15/work/control/build/bsd-i586/gensrc/sun/nio/cs/StandardCharsets.java:430: ')' expected private static final class Cache ^ /usr/ports/java/jdk15/work/control/build/bsd-i586/gensrc/sun/nio/cs/StandardCharsets.java:226: cannot find symbol symbol : class TM location: class sun.nio.cs.StandardCharsets Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM warning: Can't detect initial thread stack location ^ /usr/ports/java/jdk15/work/control/build/bsd-i586/gensrc/sun/nio/cs/StandardCharsets.java:226: cannot find symbol symbol : class Java location: class sun.nio.cs.StandardCharsets Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM warning: Can't detect initial thread stack location ^ /usr/ports/java/jdk15/work/control/build/bsd-i586/gensrc/sun/nio/cs/StandardCharsets.java:389: cannot find symbol symbol : class TM location: class sun.nio.cs.StandardCharsets Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM warning: Can't detect initial thread stack location ^ /usr/ports/java/jdk15/work/control/build/bsd-i586/gensrc/sun/nio/cs/StandardCharsets.java:389: cannot find symbol symbol : class Java location: class sun.nio.cs.StandardCharsets Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM warning: Can't detect initial thread stack location ^ /usr/ports/java/jdk15/work/control/build/bsd-i586/gensrc/sun/nio/cs/StandardCharsets.java:429: cannot find symbol symbol : class TM location: class sun.nio.cs.StandardCharsets Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM warning: Can't detect initial thread stack location ^ /usr/por
Re: Compiler error during compilation of liboil
On 6/12/06, Ewald Jenisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, During a regular portupgrade I ran into a problem during compiling liboil: During compilation of composite_sse_2pix.c in /usr/ports/devel/liboil/work/liboil-0.3.9/liboil/sse I get a gcc compiler error. For the exact details see attached file. I just committed a fix. =) Michael The ports to be upgraded are: # portversion -v | grep '<' | more bsdiff-4.2 < needs updating (port has 4.3) gstreamer-plugins-0.10.7< needs updating (port has 0.10.8,1) gstreamer-plugins-a52dec-0.10.7_1 < needs updating (port has 0.10.3_1,1) gstreamer-plugins-cdparanoia-0.10.7_2 < needs updating (port has 0.10.8_2,1) gstreamer-plugins-dts-0.10.7_1 < needs updating (port has 0.10.3_1,1) gstreamer-plugins-dvd-0.10.7 < needs updating (port has 0.10.3,1) gstreamer-plugins-esound-0.10.7_1 < needs updating (port has 0.10.3_1,1) gstreamer-plugins-gconf-0.10.7_3 < needs updating (port has 0.10.3_3,1) gstreamer-plugins-gnomevfs-0.10.7_1 < needs updating (port has 0.10.8_1 ,1) gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.7_3 < needs updating (port has 0.10.3_4,1) gstreamer-plugins-libpng-0.10.7_1 < needs updating (port has 0.10.3_1,1) gstreamer-plugins-mad-0.10.7_2 < needs updating (port has 0.10.3_2,1) gstreamer-plugins-ogg-0.10.7_1 < needs updating (port has 0.10.8_1,1) gstreamer-plugins-pango-0.10.7_1 < needs updating (port has 0.10.8_1,1) gstreamer-plugins-theora-0.10.7_2 < needs updating (port has 0.10.8_2,1) gstreamer-plugins-vorbis-0.10.7_1 < needs updating (port has 0.10.8_1,1) gstreamer-plugins-xvid-0.10.7 < needs updating (port has 0.10.3,1) liboil-0.3.8< needs updating (port has 0.3.9) linux-sun-jdk-1.4.2.10 < needs updating (port has 1.4.2.11) # Has anybody else experienced this problem? Anything that can be done against this? Regards, -ewald ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to " [EMAIL PROTECTED]" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: about freebsd partition problem
> > Dear all, > i have some partition questions in freebsd installation! > > my harddisk(40G FAT32) : > c:\ (primary 10G windows XP root) > d:\ (logical 5G with data) > e:\ (logical 5G with data) > f:\ (logical 10G with data) > g:\ (logical 10G empty) > > so i want to release 500MB from "d:\" for the second primary partition > and then put the freebsd "/" on it, the other put to "g:\" just like the > belows: > > windows xp mode > c:\ (primary 10G windows XP root) > d:\ (logical 4.5G with data) > 500MB for freebsd "/" (second primary > "ad0s2") > e:\ (logical 5G with data) > f:\ (logical 10G with data) > cannot see the g:\ ==> used by /var /usr /swap > > is it ok??? but i don't know how to create the "ad0s2"??? and edit the g:\ > for /var, /usr, /swap??? Well, sort of OK. I would not be inclined to put a FreeBSD slice right in the middle of your MS logical drives. But, I think you could do it. Secondly, I don't know what just having 500 MB for a FreeBSD '/' would get you. It would not be enough to run FreeBSD. But, probably you haven't told the whole story. Something else must be there. Anyway, I would be inclined to take the FreeBSD slice out of that empty GB space that currently shows up as g: on you Microsloth system. > > any disk edit tool can do it??? I have successfully used Partition Magic for this sort of thing. It is available at not too high a price from most places that sell software.As long as all the MS stuff is FAT, I think there are some free tools that will work too, but I haven't used them so can not attest to their effectiveness or reliability. A couple come with the FreeBSD distribution. But, the free tools do not handle NTFS which is why I haven't used them. You will first need to use the disk tool such as Partition Magic to shrink the existing structures and put a new primary slice in the space. Then, when you run the FreeBSD install, you have it mark the slice as a FreeBSD slice. Up until that point, it is not really a FreeBSD ad0s2, just some generic space.Partition Magic does not know how to mark the slice (which it calls a primary partition, using MS terminology) as a FreeBSD slice.So FreeBSD's fdisk does it. (Even if you use sysinstall to write the slice, it really just calls fdisk) Good luck, jerry > > thank you very much > > steve (come from hong kong) > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Experience with Adaptec AACU driver on FreeBSD 5.4
Hi, I noticed Adaptec now appears to have finally released drivers for FreeBSD 5.x : http://www.adaptec.com/en-US/downloads/unix/freebsd?productId=SAS-4800&dn=Adaptec+Serial+Attached+SCSI+RAID+4800SAS Any comments on compatibility, issues or performance with these drivers ? I'm tempted to try them out on a production server especially noting the current BSD drivers make my SCSI drives feel more like IDE drives! Any input is appreciated. Thx, Tamouh Hakmi Mediumcube.com HICOMMUNICATIONS Tel/Fax: (613) 860-1757 Online: http://www.mediumcube.com Toll-Free: 1-866-654-4266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
core dumps after kldloading snd_emu10kx.ko
Hi Guys I have to just say first, I'm pretty new to this, please be patient :) Firstly: $ uname -a FreeBSD ** 6.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE #0: Thu Nov 3 09:36:13 UTC 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 I recently added emu10kx ( http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/url.cgi?ports/audio/emu10kx/pkg-descr), but when I run kldload snd_emu10kx.ko the Kernel panics. As follows: Kernel trap 12 with interrupts disabled Fatal trap 12 : Page fault while in Kernel mode fault virtual address=0x74 fault code= Supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer = 0x20: 0xc0 657d4d stack pointer = 0x28: 0xef 71894c frame pointer = 0x28: 0xef 718950 Code segment=Base 0x0, limit 0xf, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def321, gran 1 Processor eflags= Resume, IOPL =0 Current process = 686 (kldload) Trap number =12 I can't find anyone with the same issue on google, so I guess the problem goes deeper that the sound card driver. Can anyone suggest where to start looking? Thanks in advance =^_^= ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: natd not starting on boot-up SOLVED
I just cvsup'ed the source and rebuilt world, and now natd starts on boot-up just fine. I don't have any idea what changed, although I did notice that when I ran mergemaster there was new text in /etc/defaults/rc.conf, which I installed without examining too closely. The thing is, I looked it over before and the entries I thought were relevant all "looked* OK to me. I didn't make any change in my /etc/rc.conf file. Anyway, that's a great relief, because we have occasional power outages here and it's nice to know things will work even if I don't happen to be in the office. -- Roger ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: wikipedia article
On Sun, 11 Jun 2006, Nikolas Britton wrote: [SNIP] > * IIRC NetBSD was a fork of FreeBSD, OpenBSD was a fork of NetBSD. Eeh? I believe NetBSD was there half a year before FreeBSD. Bye, Mipam. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: wikipedia article
>-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Nikolas Britton >Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2006 10:46 PM >To: Ted Unangst >Cc: Hámorszky Balázs; misc@openbsd.org; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: wikipedia article > > >On 6/12/06, Ted Unangst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On 6/11/06, Nikolas Britton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> > * IIRC NetBSD was a fork of FreeBSD >> >> that's an interesting theory when you consider that the first netbsd >> release came out 8 months before the first freebsd release. >> > >Yes as many others have noted, I cleary did not have my thinking cap >on. Let me correct myself: > >NetBSD and FreeBSD both have deep roots in 4.3BSD NET/2, 386BSD, and >4.4BSD Lite. NetBSD is not a fork of FreeBSD but OpenBSD is a fork of >NetBSD. DragonFly BSD is a fork of FreeBSD 4.x, etc. etc. > >With all the inbreeding it's hard to remember who's your daddy. :-) > 386BSD 0.1 was what started it all off. That was the "Jolitz" port featured in Dr. Dobbs which was basically a Net/2 port. That split into 2 forks, 1 was "386BSD 0.1+unofficial patchkit" the other was "386BSD 0.1 + The Jolitz's personal set of patches which they claimed were better but wouldn't let anyone see" The second fork turned into something like 386BSD 0.2 which the Jolitzes released years later and nobody paid any attention to. The first fork became NetBSD and FreeBSD, the FreeBSD 0.X and NetBSD 0.X code were virtually identical. (I think by the 1.0 versions of both those OS's they had started diverging enough to be considered separate forks) BSDI from what I gather was partly a fork from 386BSD, partly a parallel port from Net/2, it is difficult even today to know the truth since the source has always been "paid" source, and is now owned by Wind River and is sitting in their vault somewhere. Prior to the release of the 80386 the Intel processors didn't have memory protection which was a requirement of any processor running the BSD kernel. 4.4BSD Lite came much later, after the USL lawsuit. When it came out all Net/2 descendents (ie: 386BSD/Jolitzes version, BSDI, FreeBSD, NetBSD, plus whatever anyone was still doing with Net/2 on the VAXes) were told that if they didn't switch to 4.4BSD Lite that they could be sued by USL directly, and could not use the excuse that they were just using the University's copyright and to go sue the University of California, Berkeley. The commercial licensees of Net/2 and BSD 4.3 and such were basically left to hang out and dry, since when 4.4BSD Lite was released the university closed the CSRG. I think that Sun and HP both had already signed source licenses with USL (since they were also selling the AT&T UNIX source) and didn't give a rat's ass what CSRG did with 4.4BSD Lite. I think that BSDI rewrote the kernel files that were at the heart of the lawsuit themselves, perhaps with some inspiration from FreeBSD 2.0, perhaps not. Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: is there an ies4linux port for FreeBSD?
Jim Stapleton wrote: I cant find it in www, net or devel, and the downloadable install script fails horribly. error message [EMAIL PROTECTED] 17:08:52 (0) ~/ies4linux-2.0beta6 > ./ies4linux source: not found [etc] First, try running the script as csh ~/ies4linux-2.0beta6 > ./ies4linux and see if that helps. "source" is a csh builtin which implies that you are running a csh script under sh/bash. (If that's the case then why it doesn't start with #!/bin/csh I don't know, but it wouldn't say much for software quality). If that doesn't help then try posting the script, or a link to it if it's big. Was there a README or INSTALL file? --Alex ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: restoring deleted files
Denny White wrote: I hate it & it's aggravating, but it's saved me several times from another restore, but in .bashrc I have: alias rm='rm -i' This is good advice. You can also alias mv and cp similarly, and also set noclobber (tcsh) or its equivalent so that > etc do not overwrite existing files. By using file name expansion (TAB, ^D etc) you can also check whether file names exist already or not. --Alex ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
hardware raid suggestions
Hi, I've got a dell power edge 600sc. (I realize thats getting old) I'm running FreeBSD 6.1-release. I'm looking for suggestions for a good raid setup both controls and disks. I'd like to use hardware raid and not software. I'm more interested in the performance from raid then the redundancy. Its mainly if not exclusively going to be used for compilations of software ASF software. Ideally, I'd like to NFS mount its disk on my desktop over a local gigabit lan. Any pointers appreciated. I'm willing spend up to about $1,000. -- Philip M. Gollucci ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 323.219.4708 Consultant / http://p6m7g8.net/Resume/resume.shtml Senior Software Engineer - TicketMaster - http://ticketmaster.com 1024D/A79997FA F357 0FDD 2301 6296 690F 6A47 D55A 7172 A799 97F "It takes a minute to have a crush on someone, an hour to like someone, and a day to love someone, but it takes a lifetime to forget someone..." ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
about freebsd partition problem
Dear all, i have some partition questions in freebsd installation! my harddisk(40G FAT32) : c:\ (primary 10G windows XP root) d:\ (logical 5G with data) e:\ (logical 5G with data) f:\ (logical 10G with data) g:\ (logical 10G empty) so i want to release 500MB from "d:\" for the second primary partition and then put the freebsd "/" on it, the other put to "g:\" just like the belows: windows xp mode c:\ (primary 10G windows XP root) d:\ (logical 4.5G with data) > 500MB for freebsd "/" (second primary "ad0s2") e:\ (logical 5G with data) f:\ (logical 10G with data) cannot see the g:\ ==> used by /var /usr /swap is it ok??? but i don't know how to create the "ad0s2"??? and edit the g:\ for /var, /usr, /swap??? any disk edit tool can do it??? thank you very much steve (come from hong kong) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: heyu and fbsd6.0
/dev/ttyd0 doesen't come active unless DTR and DSR are up, maybe you want /dev/cuaa0? Ted >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Travis H. >Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2006 8:21 PM >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: heyu and fbsd6.0 > > >Anyone gotten this combo to work? > >The heyu port doesn't compile (it thinks timezone is some external >integer or something, in fact it's a function defined in ). >When I run heyu2, I tell it to read from /dev/ttyd0 (that's the >correct kind of tty for a serial line, right?) and it prints this then >hangs forever: > >... >Reading Heyu configuration file '/etc/heyu/x10.conf' >xread() called, count=1, timeout = 2 >Alarm! >xread() returning 0 byte(s). The first is 3 >-- >Scientia Est Potentia -- Eppur Si Muove >Security "guru" for rent or hire - >http://www.lightconsulting.com/~travis/ -><- >GPG fingerprint: 9D3F 395A DAC5 5CCC 9066 151D 0A6B 4098 0C55 1484 >___ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to >"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.3/360 - Release Date: 6/9/2006 > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
