Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 138, Issue 17

2006-06-18 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 05:41:12 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This email has messages with subject Re: Possible to go from 5.5 to
 5.4? as message #s 4, 5, 7, 9, 11,  19.  It would be nice if they
 were contiguous, rather than dispersed, so that someone interested in
 this topic doesn't have to memorize the numbers so that he can find
 them once he has passed the table of contents.  Similarly for messages
 with subject Re: Getting Source Code after Installing the Software
 which appear as message #s 2, 3, 10 and for messages with subject Re:
 freebsd on a newer pc which appear as message #s 17, 20, 26, 27, 32
 and there are still more.
 

hi,
I fail to see what is the *new* problem with this. This is, AFAIK, how digest
mails are (always?) sent by mailing lists, in the order they were posted. If you
dont like it, feel free to subscribe to the non-digest delivery format of the
mailing list and let your favourite mail client thread it as needed.

Or visit the web archives of the list for yet more views of the same data.

You could, of course, contribute code to MailMan to allow for delivery
of Digest mails in threaded format. I'm sure you and others will benefit from
it.

Beto
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Re: BTX halted

2006-06-18 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 23:50:10 +0400
horn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I install FreeBSD 5.3 from floppy-diskets. After a choice of loading(default, 
 safe_mode) there is a error:
 int=000e  err=  efl=00010083  eip=95ca
 eax=c101ffb8  ebx=c101ffb0  ecx=8c10  edx=ff02
 esi=ffef  edi=1952  ebp=c1021d60  esp=c101ffa0
 cs=0008  ds=0010  es=0010fs=0010  gs=0010  ss=0010
 cs:eip=ac e8 46 00 00 00 fe c9-74 0c b0 2d 80 f9 08 74
02 b0 20 aa eb ea fe ca-74 0e b0 0a aa b1 07 b0
 ss:esp=10 00 00 00 68 97 00 00-db 91 00 00 00 18 00 00
ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff
 BTX halted
 
 
 

I got a similar looking error (sorry, dont have that particular box at hand to
verify) when booting from 6.1-Release CD on a Shuttle Zen PC. HD already had a
Gentoo 2006.0 installation on it.
 
No changes whether I booted without APIC of ACPI, or safe mode.

Beto
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Re: socketpair(2) strange behavior

2006-06-18 Thread Alberto Rizzi
Tofik Suleymanov ha scritto:
 Hello list,
 
 when using socketpair(2)  on my FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE-p1 box i get this
 error:
 socketpair: Operation not supported
 
 And here is the source of my pretty simple socketpair(2) program:
  START 
 #include sys/types.h
 #include sys/socket.h
 #include stdio.h
 #include errno.h
 
 int main(void) {
 int sv[2], err;
 err = socketpair(AF_INET, SOCK_STREAM, 0, (int*)sv);
 if(err == -1) {
perror(socketpair);
return -1;
 }
 
 return 0x0;
 }
  END 
 
 Any comments ?
 
 
 Sincerely,
 Tofik Suleymanov
 
Maybe you have to change
(int*) sv
with
sv
because sv returns an int**, not int*
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Re: FreeBSD equivalent to DRBD

2006-06-18 Thread Björn König

[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:


It look like ggated + geom will do at least part of the job. Setting up
the raid part looks fairly straight forward, the question is howto manage
the swop aspect, ie machine a primary to machine b primary. I guess it is
shutdown geom + gated and starting them on the the other machine. I don't
see any way of doing this though. Perhaps I'm missing something.

The exporting the drive via NFS and swopping under haertbeat looks ok to.
It is just the gom + ggated aspect I am not sure about.


I think ggated and gmirror won't satisfy you because I'd like to call 
ggated experimental. Furthermore it is not intended for those tasks, 
because it is kept very simple. A better scenario for the current 
implementation of ggated is to mount a remote CD filesystem locally.


If you really need DRBD then stay with DRDB and linux.

Björn
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Re: core dumps after kldloading snd_emu10kx.ko

2006-06-18 Thread Tofik Suleymanov

ghostcorps wrote:

Hi Guys

I have to just say first, I'm pretty new to this, please be patient :)


Firstly:
$ uname -a
FreeBSD ** 6.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE #0: Thu Nov  3
09:36:13 UTC 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
i386

I recently added emu10kx (
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/url.cgi?ports/audio/emu10kx/pkg-descr), but 
when

I run kldload snd_emu10kx.ko the Kernel panics.

As follows:


Kernel trap 12 with interrupts disabled
Fatal trap 12 : Page fault while in Kernel mode

fault virtual address=0x74
fault code= Supervisor 
read,

page not present
instruction pointer   = 0x20: 0xc0 657d4d
stack pointer   = 0x28: 0xef 
71894c
frame pointer  = 0x28: 0xef 
718950

Code segment=Base 0x0, limit
0xf, type 0x1b
  = DPL 0, 
pres

1, def321, gran 1
Processor eflags= Resume, IOPL =0
Current process  = 686 (kldload)
Trap number   =12



I can't find anyone with the same issue on google, so I guess the problem
goes deeper that the sound card driver.


Can anyone suggest where to start looking?

Thanks in advance


1.  Tell about this to the port maintainer  of /usr/ports/audio/emu10kx ?
2. Try to use snd_emu10k1.ko from base system ?

Sincerely,
Tofik Suleymanov


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ACPI Thermal on ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe

2006-06-18 Thread O. Hartmann
I recently changed mainboard due to defects from ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe to 
ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe and now I'm missing several ACPI entry when 
looking for thermal sensors via sysctl hw.acpi. I guess misisng this is 
due to the newer hardware and/or BIOS. Is there a solution/support in 
sight within the next months or is FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT supporting these 
things?


Thank you in advance,
Oliver
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Re: FreeBSD equivalent to DRBD

2006-06-18 Thread bsd
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:

 It look like ggated + geom will do at least part of the job. Setting up
 the raid part looks fairly straight forward, the question is howto
 manage
 the swop aspect, ie machine a primary to machine b primary. I guess it
 is
 shutdown geom + gated and starting them on the the other machine. I
 don't
 see any way of doing this though. Perhaps I'm missing something.

 The exporting the drive via NFS and swopping under haertbeat looks ok
 to.
 It is just the gom + ggated aspect I am not sure about.

 I think ggated and gmirror won't satisfy you because I'd like to call
 ggated experimental. Furthermore it is not intended for those tasks,
 because it is kept very simple. A better scenario for the current
 implementation of ggated is to mount a remote CD filesystem locally.

 If you really need DRBD then stay with DRDB and linux.

 Björn


Thanks,

I have a setup using heartbeat and Freebsd which uses rsync to keep the
drives in step. The only problem is that rsynce is run as a cron job which
makes balancing the Cron Invervals with the run time of rsync a bit hit
and miss.

Having read up more on ggated, I may try it on some spare machines and
drives I have lying around. I take your point about it being expermential
though but as I see it it is about the only thing I need that FreeBSD is
week on. ISTR GEOM Started that way too. Perhaps it is something I can
help FreeBSD with so I can give something back.

Rob



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Re: X ATI driver?

2006-06-18 Thread bsd
 On 6/17/06 6:56 PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Re: X ATI driver?

ATI cards with X Windows are a bit of a pain. As I understand it, ATI
 have
not released their specs etc so that any X driver is reverse engineered.
NVIDA does provide drivers which do work. I have an old MACH32 in a
 server
and could only get it to work as using the Vesa drivers. It runs at
1024x768, but I was not too bothered as the machine after setting up runs
headless.

My advice is try the VESA drivers if that fails try and change to NVIDA.

 Rob,

 I'm finding the docs less than helpful about all this. If I
 don't use the suggested configuration, then I need to fill in a
 bunch of stuff I don't know about - or, so it seems, at least.
 Here's what the configuration file looks like after doing Xorg
 -configure.


Snip

 Any chance you could show me how to either do the changes to
 VESA or NVDIA or to find the documents that are supposed to be
 helpful, preferentially off list (I'll write a report for the
 list if we can get it working). I've tried a few things and
 they tend to belch for not being correct but they don't give me
 any clues about to correct them.
 --

 Walter M. Pawley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Wump Research  Company
 676 River Bend Road, Roseburg, OR 97470
  541-672-8975


Walt,

It was some ago, that I had the problem with ATI. ISTR that I used one of
the other config tools. Have a look at the FreeBSD page:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html

There are other config tools listed.

I think I used xorgconfig and tried the various options starting at the
lowest resolutions until I got as far as possible.

As far as Changing to Nvidia that is just a matter of getting a Nvidia
card and swopping it with the ATI. Nvidia do have drivers on their site
for 3d etc with instructions on what to do.

Rob



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Re: VMWare install error

2006-06-18 Thread Beni
On Saturday 17 June 2006 22:20, Rico wrote:
 Hi,

 I am trying to install VMWare3 on FreeBSD 6.1 from the ports.

 During intall I get this error:

 = SHA256 Checksum OK for rpm/i386/fedora/4/zlib-1.2.2.2-5.fc4.i386.rpm.
 ===   linux_base-fc-4_1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/rpm2cpio - found
 ===  Patching for linux_base-fc-4_1
 ===  Configuring for linux_base-fc-4_1
 ===  Building for linux_base-fc-4_1
 ===  Installing for linux_base-fc-4_1

 ===  linux_base-fc-4_1 conflicts with installed package(s):
linux_base-8-8.0_14

They install files into the same place.
Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1).
 *** Error code 1

 Stop in /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-fc4.
 *** Error code 1

 Stop in /usr/ports/emulators/rtc.
 *** Error code 1

 Stop in /usr/ports/emulators/vmware3.
 *** Error code 1

 Stop in /usr/ports/emulators/vmware3.

 I do understand the conflict, but I am not sure what the best way to
 handle this is. Trying to remove linux_base, gives a lot of work since a
 lot of other stuff depends upon that.

 Any recommendations?

 Another question, regarding speed and ease of configuration, which is
 recommended: VMWare vs. Qemu?

 Best and kind regards,
 Rico
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Maybe this can help from /usr/ports/UPDATING :

[...]
20060616:
  AFFECTS users of emulation/linux_base-*
  AUTHOR: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  We now use Fedora Core 4 as the linux base port, and the corresponding
  xorg libs for the linux X11 libs port.

  To upgrade you have to run
portupgrade -f -o emulators/linux_base-fc4 linux_base\*
portupgrade -f -o x11/linux-xorg-libs linux-XFree86-libs
[...]

Beni.
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Re: Getting NTP (ntpd, ntpdate) to work

2006-06-18 Thread Nick Withers
On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 21:30:55 -0400 (EDT)
Charles Bacon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Since FreeBSD 4.5-Release, I have been unable to get NTP working on
 my two FreeBSD computers, one running 5.3Release and the other on
 6.1Release.  I have done nothing with the GENERIC kernel on either
 machine.  I talk SSH between them, and have been running ntpd on
 both, each naming the other as well as two external servers.
 
 My network is a typical home net, using 192.168.1/28, 

You mean /24 (i.e.: 255.255.255.0, Class C), yeah?

 served by a DSL router which does NAT for my external traffic.
 Internal comms. is through switches, plus one hub.  Each computer
 (plus some others running Windows) has easy access out, and is
 invisible from the Internet exceptt for responses.
 
 Here's my ntp.conf, identical on my two computers:
 
   server ntp.cape.com
   server ntp.ourconcord.net
   driftfile /var/db/ntp.drift
   logfile /var/log/ntplog
   pidfile /var/run/ntpd.pid
   logconfig =all
   peer 192.168.1.3
   peer 192.168.1.2(much comments removed)
 
 With mediocre diagnostic skill, I have finally discovered tcpdump.
 It told me after much experiment, that the relevant port (NTP, 123) was
 unreachable.  This sounds significant, but I can't find a list of the
 reachability of ports.

Try netstat(1). netstat -anp udp might be of help in
particular, here.

 I've looked at ng*, mac_* and pf* and finally bpf*, and only the last seems
 to exist in /dev.
 
 I had expected that GENERIC would impose only slight filtering somehow,
 and certainly not shut off NTP!  I guess I need help.

If you've loaded a firewall such as IPFW in /etc/rc.conf a
kernel module will be loaded for it, if it's not compiled
statically into hte kernel already (which it isn't on GENERIC
for either 5.3-RELEASE or 6.1-RELEASE). kldstat will list
loaded modules (and the IPFW module is ipfw.ko).

 Thanks for any help you can give, and I accept any opprobrium for trying
 to be a sysadmin, even for my home boxen.
 
   Chuck Bacon -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   ABHOR SECRECY -- DEFEND PRIVACY
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Re: monitoring raid arrays

2006-06-18 Thread Philippe Pegon

Thierry Lacoste wrote:

I'm running FreeBSD 6.1 on a Compaq Proliant and a Dell PowerEdge 1800.
They have hardware raid 1 arrays controlled respectively by a Compaq 
Smart Array 532

controller and PERC 4/SC.

Here is the relevant dmesg output on the Proliant:
ciss0: Compaq Smart Array 532 port 0x4000-0x40ff mem 
0xf7fc-0xf7ff,0xf7ef-0xf7ef3fff irq 24 at device 3.0 on pci7

[snip]
da0 at ciss0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
da0: COMPAQ RAID 1  VOLUME OK Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device
da0: 135.168MB/s transfers
da0: 34727MB (71122560 512 byte sectors: 255H 32S/T 8716C)

Here is the relevant dmesg output on the PowerEdge:
amr0: LSILogic MegaRAID 1.53 mem 0xf80f-0xf80f irq 37 at 
device 5.0 on pci2

amr0: delete logical drives supported by controller
amr0: LSILogic PERC 4/SC Firmware 351S, BIOS 1.10, 64MB RAM
[snip]
amr0: delete logical drives supported by controller
amrd0: LSILogic MegaRAID logical drive on amr0
amrd0: 139900MB (286515200 sectors) RAID 1 (optimal)

What are my options to monitor the status of these arrays?


for ciss, you can use camcontrol (in the base system) like that:

# camcontrol inquiry da0
pass0: COMPAQ RAID 1  VOLUME OK Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device
pass0: 135.168MB/s transfers

for amr, you can use the new port /usr/ports/sysutils/amrstat like that:

# amrstat
Logical volume 0optimal (16.96 GB, RAID1)
Physical drive 0:0  online
Physical drive 0:1  online



Best regards,
Thierry.


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802.11h

2006-06-18 Thread Fridtjof Busse
Hello
I'd like to know what the current status of DFS (Dynamic Frequency
Selection) and TPC (Transmit Power Control) under FreeBSD is.
Any way to build an accesspoint complying to 802.11h with FreeBSD?
Without 802.11h, Germany allows only 13 dBm trasmit power, which is not
really much, especially on 5 Ghz.

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adjkerntz[]: sysctl(get_offset): No such file or directory

2006-06-18 Thread Rod Person
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I'm seeing a lot of messages like this in my Message log. 
adjkerntz[]: sysctl(get_offset): No such file or directory

I don't think that this is a porblem as I'm not seeing any ill effects, but 
I'd like to know what this means and why it's happening. Google hasn't 
produced anything meaningful in this area. Just wondering if anyone out there 
knows.

Machine is an AMD Dual Opteron 246 running FreeBSD 6.1 Stable i386.

- -- 
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http://www.opensourcebeef.net
http://blog.opensourcebeef.net
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Re: adjkerntz[]: sysctl(get_offset): No such file or directory

2006-06-18 Thread Rod Person
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On Sunday 18 June 2006 8:28 am, Rod Person wrote:
 Machine is an AMD Dual Opteron 246 running FreeBSD 6.1 Stable i386.
Sorry, It's FreeBSD 7.0 Current i386 - it's a dual boot and I got confused :)

- -- 
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Re: freebsd on a newer pc

2006-06-18 Thread Jonathan Horne
On Friday 16 June 2006 23:25, Micah wrote:
 Jonathan Horne wrote:
  On Jun 16, 2006, at 5:09 PM, Jonathan Horne wrote:
  well, i figured out that if at the boot selection screen, if i choose
  option 2 boot with acpi enabled, i can then give 'shutdown -p
  now' and
  the system will then power off properly. easy enough...
 
  but how do i set option 2 as my default boot selection?  i dont see
  anything about this in the handbook.
 
  My experience has been that once you boot that way once it becomes
  the default.  Play around with it
 
  Chad
 
  ---
  Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
  Your Web App and Email hosting provider
  chad at shire.net
 
  i dont think thats the behavior im getting.  when i hit 2 to boot:
 
  athena# kldstat
  Id Refs AddressSize Name
   13 0xc040 6ab778   kernel
   21 0xc0aac000 59960acpi.ko
  athena# uname -a
  FreeBSD athena.int.dfwlp.com 6.1-STABLE FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE #0: Fri Jun 16
  20:48:52 CDT 2006
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ATHENA  i386
 
  and when i dont:
  athena# kldstat
  Id Refs AddressSize Name
   11 0xc040 6ab778   kernel
 
  when i want to boot the acpi support, i hit 2.  is that the proper way,
  or is there some other way that resets this mode as default?
 
  thanks,
  jonathan

 Last I read FreeBSD defaults ACPI off for systems that have broken
 ACPI, and defaults on for systems that have working ACPI. If you're
 sure your ACPI works without any problems add acpi_load=YES to your
 loader.conf. (that might not be the correct solution, but it should
 work).

 HTH,
 Micah
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well, its finally working!!

i could have swore this was the first thing i tried, as loader.conf was the 
first area i researched, but when i added acpi_load=YES to loader.conf, my 
system now boots with acpi enabled (and i can now properly poweroff with 
shutdown -p now).

i must have typed or something, because that was the first thing i mentally 
marked as ok, that didnt work.  im so excited to have my system functioning 
correcetly now, as my old system was a 1.8GHz athlong, and this is a 3.2GHz 
p4.  xorg/KDE compile time is down from 36 hours to less than 24!!

cheers,
jonathan
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deployment considerations between STABLE and RELENG

2006-06-18 Thread Jonathan Horne
its been a while since i have come to the point where i can cvsup and 
buildworld my systems without making any mistakes.  but, at this point, so 
far, i only buildworld up to STABLE.  i do have one dev system that 
yesterday, i finally did a buildworld to RELENG.

as i understand it, STABLE contains all security/bug fixes, as well as all 
enhancements to other applications as they have been developed.  and that 
RELENG contains only security and bugfixes.  have i gathered my information 
correctly?

im interested in polling the users of this list (who frequently buildworld on 
their systems), what situations (deployments) STABLE is for, and the same for 
RELENG.

cheers,
jonathan

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Re: VMWare install error

2006-06-18 Thread Rico

Thank you very much Beni! I completely missed that.

Best regards,
Rico


 Original Message 
Subject: Re: VMWare install error
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 10:52:06 +0200
From: Beni [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
References: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Saturday 17 June 2006 22:20, Rico wrote:

Hi,

I am trying to install VMWare3 on FreeBSD 6.1 from the ports.

During intall I get this error:

= SHA256 Checksum OK for rpm/i386/fedora/4/zlib-1.2.2.2-5.fc4.i386.rpm.
===   linux_base-fc-4_1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/rpm2cpio - found
===  Patching for linux_base-fc-4_1
===  Configuring for linux_base-fc-4_1
===  Building for linux_base-fc-4_1
===  Installing for linux_base-fc-4_1

===  linux_base-fc-4_1 conflicts with installed package(s):
   linux_base-8-8.0_14

   They install files into the same place.
   Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1).
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-fc4.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/emulators/rtc.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/emulators/vmware3.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/emulators/vmware3.

I do understand the conflict, but I am not sure what the best way to
handle this is. Trying to remove linux_base, gives a lot of work since a
lot of other stuff depends upon that.

Any recommendations?

Another question, regarding speed and ease of configuration, which is
recommended: VMWare vs. Qemu?

Best and kind regards,
Rico
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Maybe this can help from /usr/ports/UPDATING :

[...]
20060616:
  AFFECTS users of emulation/linux_base-*
  AUTHOR: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  We now use Fedora Core 4 as the linux base port, and the corresponding
  xorg libs for the linux X11 libs port.

  To upgrade you have to run
portupgrade -f -o emulators/linux_base-fc4 linux_base\*
portupgrade -f -o x11/linux-xorg-libs linux-XFree86-libs
[...]

Beni.
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Re: GUIDE step-by-step - FreeBSD-RELENG-upgrade + BUILDWORLD process, using CVSUP

2006-06-18 Thread Constantino Michailidis
On Sunday 18 June 2006 08:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hanno Krusken wrote:
  Hi all,
  specially for the novice of you, please read carefully
  !!
 
  # make clean
 
  # make -j4 buildworld
 
  # make buildkernel KERNCONF=YOUR-KERNEL-FILE
 
  # make installkernel KERNCONF=YOUR-KERNEL-FILE
 
  # reboot
 
  Hanno Krusken
   

 make -j4 can cause many systems to fail

 The correct procedure is

 make buildworld
 make kernel KERNCONF=mykern
 mergemaster -p
 make installworld
 mergemaster

 regards Jason M

Thought I'd throw in my 2cents to the conversation.  I have a cheat-sheet I've 
created myself for this process.  Generally, the procedure is as described as 
above.  One issue is that the actual process can vary... there is more than 
one _correct_ procedure.  That being said, it may help a newbie to have 
_more_ detail than less.  Thus, I'll include my cheat sheet here too.  
Section 21.4 from the handbook should be the final authority ;-)

Note, following the procedure isn't difficult at all... what _is_ difficult is 
answering the questions 'mergemaster' asks correctly.  In reality, this 
usually isn't too difficult either, but can be intimidating for less 
experienced users.

The general rule of thumb for mergemaster is answer 'i' (install temporary 
version) for any file that you don't remember editing yourself - this usually 
means press 'd' (delete) when prompted to merge files like /etc/hosts or 
(possibly) /etc/printcap.  On a typically configured machine, you are 
instructing mergemaster to either install (95%) or delete (4%) the temporary 
file it's prompting about; the other 1% of the time a 'real' merge is 
necessary.  Ultimately, you need to use your head a bit during mergemaster.

Other than that, the only thing you need to understand is how to use cvsup.  
Enough already, here's my cheat-sheet:

UPDATING FREEBSD

cvsup standard-supfile  #i'm tracking stable
cd /usr/src

cat UPDATING#glance at it for quirks

make buildworld

make buildkernel KERNCONF=your_filename

make installkernel KERNCONF=your_filename

shutdown now#optional; allows you to skip to next 'cd' command

reboot  #into single user mode

fsck -p
mount -u /
mount -a -t ufs
swapon -a

adjkerntz -i#if cmos clock set to local time

cd /usr/src

#using mergemaster: usually just answer 'i'
#for every file sans 'hosts', 'printcap'
#and any other customized /etc files
#use your head

mergemaster -p  #merges new stuff needed by installworld

make installworld

mergemaster #merges all new stuff: /etc /var/ usr

reboot
cd /usr/obj

chflags -R noschg * #only if any files are immutable

rm -rf *#saves disk space and
#makes future updates easier but slower
#THIS HAPPENS IN /usr/obj
#LOL, BE CAREFUL TO INSURE THIS!!!

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kernel: ad8: FAILURE - READ timed out LBA=234441585

2006-06-18 Thread Daniel A. A.
Hi,
Whenever I try to boot my desktop workstation with FreeBSD, it suddenly just 
hangs there forever. When I boot into safe mode, however, I get this in the 
dmesg:
Jun 18 16:01:46 b00b kernel: ad8: 114473MB Seagate ST3120022A 3.06 at 
ata4-master PIO4
Jun 18 16:01:46 b00b kernel: ad8: FAILURE - READ timed out LBA=234441585
Jun 18 16:01:46 b00b kernel: ad8: TIMEOUT - READ retrying (1 retry left) LBA=0
Jun 18 16:01:46 b00b kernel: ad8: FAILURE - READ timed out LBA=234441631
Jun 18 16:01:46 b00b kernel: ad8: TIMEOUT - READ retrying (0 retries left) 
LBA=0
Jun 18 16:01:46 b00b kernel: ad8: FAILURE - READ timed out LBA=234441644
Jun 18 16:01:46 b00b kernel: ad8: FAILURE - READ timed out LBA=0
Jun 18 16:01:46 b00b kernel: ad8: FAILURE - READ timed out LBA=234441585
Jun 18 16:01:46 b00b kernel: ad8: TIMEOUT - READ retrying (1 retry left) LBA=0

The hard drive is connected to an onboard Promise FastTrak (atapci1: Promise 
PDC20376 SATA150 controller port 0x8000-0x803f,0x7800-0x780f,0x7400-0x747f 
mem 0xab80-0xab800fff,0xab00-0xab01 irq 11 at device 14.0 on 
pci0) controller on my Asus p4s8x motherboard. The drive itself is connected 
to the optional PATA connector, which works wonderfully in Windows.

I've currently managed to install Xorg and KDE on the box, all entirely in 
Safe Mode, but the performance is really bad, or not as good as it should be 
on a PC with a Pentium IV 2.4GHz and 1GB PC3200 RAM.
Googling yields irrelevant results to my case, and search results for freebsd 
p4s8x (no quotes) indicate that FreeBSD should be working OK with my 
motherboard and all of its native components.

So, does anybody know how to
a) Fix this issue (or, if not)
b) How to prevent a specific device (atapci1 or ad8) from being loaded during 
boot time? Again, googling yields no results, but I might be querying the 
wrong strings.

Attached is my dmesg.boot

Thanks for any help.
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Re: adjkerntz[]: sysctl(get_offset): No such file or directory

2006-06-18 Thread Andrey Slusar
Sun, 18 Jun 2006 08:50:03 -0400, Rod Person wrote:
 On Sunday 18 June 2006 8:28 am, Rod Person wrote:
  Machine is an AMD Dual Opteron 246 running FreeBSD 6.1 Stable i386.
 Sorry, It's FreeBSD 7.0 Current i386 - it's a dual boot and I got
 confused :)

 Are you read src/UPDATING?

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The FreeBSD Diary: 2006-05-28 - 2006-06-17

2006-06-18 Thread Dan Langille
The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical 
examples and how-to guides.  This message is posted weekly
to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with the aim of letting people
know what's available on the website.  Before you post a question
here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list 
archives http://www.freebsd.org/search/search.html#mailinglists 
and/or The FreeBSD Diary http://www.freebsddiary.org/. 

These are the articles posted during this period:

16-Jun : apcupsd - Configuring a UPS daemon
 APC is a pretty common UPS.  apcupsd can gracefully shutdown your 
computers before the batteries run out of juice. 
 http://freebsddiary.org/apcupsd.php?2

15-Jun : Dual Opteron server
 Setting up the server 
 http://freebsddiary.org/dual-opteron.php?2

7-Jun : Postfix - setting up two outgoing mail servers
 How to set one gateway machine to send to two outgoing servers. 
 http://freebsddiary.org/postfix-transport-multiple.php?2

30-May : Moving the rack
 It's just a shelf. It shouldn't take too long to move 
 http://freebsddiary.org/moving-the-rack.php?2

28-May : System freezes up during reboot
 It's hard to reboot the system if it never comes back! 
 http://freebsddiary.org/freeze-during-reboot.php?2


-- 
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Re: Python port problems

2006-06-18 Thread Alex Zbyslaw

Joe Auty wrote:



On Jun 15, 2006, at 6:16 AM, Alex Zbyslaw wrote:


Joe Auty wrote:


jauty# python -v /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner
[...snip...]
# /usr/local/lib/python2.4/getopt.pyc matches /usr/local/lib/  
python2.4/getopt.py

import getopt # precompiled from /usr/local/lib/python2.4/getopt.pyc
# /usr/local/mailman/bin/paths.pyc matches /usr/local/mailman/bin/  
paths.py

import paths # precompiled from /usr/local/mailman/bin/paths.pyc
[...snip...]



OK, you just ran qrunner successfully without getting the error you  
were getting earlier about getopt.  Doesn't matter that all you got  
was help, it found *everything* that it tried to import.


I missed the start of this thread.  How did you run qrunner to get  
your earlier error and where did the error appear?  I think you  said 
the rc script.  If it's not too big can you post it?  Or  compare it 
against your working mailman?




My Mailman rc script (exactly identical to the one on my working  
machine):



You're getting your error when mailman starts at boot time; is that right?

If so, what happens if you try as root (csh):

# sh -x /usr/local/etc/rc.d/mailman.sh start

(sh/bash)

# sh -x /usr/local/etc/rc.d/mailman.sh start

(you might have to check the exact name of the rc.d script).

If this starts mailman then something bizarre is going on.

If you get the same error as usual, then judicious snippets with the 
error and prior context.


--Alex




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Re: FFS data integrity

2006-06-18 Thread Pablo Marín Ramón
 The short answer is that fsck can detect the bad inodes and fix or
 delete them.  Assuming no programming errors, you don't have to worry
 about a file containing bogus data after fsck has run.  Unfortunately,
 if write-caching is enabled on your hard drive (and it probably is,
 for speed), then the drive may internally re-order the writes and the
 carefully crafted sequence of writes disappears, so there are no
 guarantees (or at least, not as many).  Whether this is actually a
 problem depends on the brand, model, and firmware version of the
 drive, because some drives claim that data has been written to the
 disk when it is actually only in the drive buffer, while other drives
 are more honest.

Let's suppose block A contains user A's private data. User A
deletes the file, so synchronously the metadata referring to that
file is updated, but the data block still contains the sensitive
information. Now user B creates a new file B. Let's suppose the data
block allocated for file B is block A. The right thing to do in
terms of security is first update block A with the new data, and then
update the metadata referring to it. But if metadata is updated
synchronously first (the free block bitmap says that block A is
allocated and the inode of file B points to it) and the system
crashes, user B has access to user A's private data. In this case
(asynchronous data blocks updates), fsck cannot fix the problem
(if I'm missing something, please correct me).

The following is extracted from Soft Updates: A Technique for
Eliminating Most Synchronous Writes in the Fast Filesystem:

When a new block is allocated, its bitmap location is updated to
reflect that it is in use and the block's contents are
initialized with newly written data or zeros. In addition, a
pointer to the new block is added to an inode or indirect block
(see bellow). To ensure that the on-disk bitmap always reflects
allocated resources, the bitmap must be written to disk before
the pointer. Also, because the contents of the newly allocated
disk location are unknown, rule #1 specifies an update dependency
between the new block and the pointer to it. Because enforcing
this update dependency with synchronous writes can reduce data
creation throughput by a factor of two [Ganger  Patt, 1994],
many implementations ignore it for regular data blcosk. This
implementation decision reduces integrity and security, since
newly allocated blocks generally contain previously deleted file
data.

The following is extracted from Metadata Update Performance in
File Systems [Ganger  Patt, 1994]:

For example, a pointer to a newly allocated block should not be
added to a file's inode before the block is initialized on stable
storage. If this ordering is not enforced, a system failure could
result in the file containing data from some previously deleted
file, presenting both an integrity weakness and a security hole.

One can read this in the man page for fsck_ffs:

The kernel takes care that only a restricted class of
innocuous file system inconsistencies can happen unless
hardware or software failures intervene.  These are
limited to the following:

   Unreferenced inodes
   Link counts in inodes too large
   Missing blocks in the free map
   Blocks in the free map also in files
   Counts in the super-block wrong

so I assume FreeBSD is doing the correct thing.

Is correct this assumption?

 More details are found in
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/configtuning-disk.html

Thanks, that entry in the handbook is really interesting.
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Does FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE support the Intel PWLA8391GT NIC?

2006-06-18 Thread Mark

A similar question as before: does FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE support the Intel
PWLA8391GT NIC card?

Earlier, I recieved a link to the FreeBSD site for 'older' versions, but I
only saw 4.11-RELEASE there.

Thanks,

- Mark

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Re: kernel: ad8: FAILURE - READ timed out LBA=234441585

2006-06-18 Thread Daniel A. A.

Daniel A. A. wrote:

Hi,
Whenever I try to boot my desktop workstation with FreeBSD, it suddenly just 
hangs there forever. When I boot into safe mode, however, I get this in the 
dmesg:
Jun 18 16:01:46 b00b kernel: ad8: 114473MB Seagate ST3120022A 3.06 at 
ata4-master PIO4

Jun 18 16:01:46 b00b kernel: ad8: FAILURE - READ timed out LBA=234441585
Jun 18 16:01:46 b00b kernel: ad8: TIMEOUT - READ retrying (1 retry left) LBA=0
Jun 18 16:01:46 b00b kernel: ad8: FAILURE - READ timed out LBA=234441631
Jun 18 16:01:46 b00b kernel: ad8: TIMEOUT - READ retrying (0 retries left) 
LBA=0

Jun 18 16:01:46 b00b kernel: ad8: FAILURE - READ timed out LBA=234441644
Jun 18 16:01:46 b00b kernel: ad8: FAILURE - READ timed out LBA=0
Jun 18 16:01:46 b00b kernel: ad8: FAILURE - READ timed out LBA=234441585
Jun 18 16:01:46 b00b kernel: ad8: TIMEOUT - READ retrying (1 retry left) LBA=0

The hard drive is connected to an onboard Promise FastTrak (atapci1: Promise 
PDC20376 SATA150 controller port 0x8000-0x803f,0x7800-0x780f,0x7400-0x747f 
mem 0xab80-0xab800fff,0xab00-0xab01 irq 11 at device 14.0 on 
pci0) controller on my Asus p4s8x motherboard. The drive itself is connected 
to the optional PATA connector, which works wonderfully in Windows.


I've currently managed to install Xorg and KDE on the box, all entirely in 
Safe Mode, but the performance is really bad, or not as good as it should be 
on a PC with a Pentium IV 2.4GHz and 1GB PC3200 RAM.
Googling yields irrelevant results to my case, and search results for freebsd 
p4s8x (no quotes) indicate that FreeBSD should be working OK with my 
motherboard and all of its native components.


So, does anybody know how to
a) Fix this issue (or, if not)
b) How to prevent a specific device (atapci1 or ad8) from being loaded during 
boot time? Again, googling yields no results, but I might be querying the 
wrong strings.


Attached is my dmesg.boot

Thanks for any help.
  



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Well, go figure.
First, I disabled the SATA controller which I thought was the problem, 
in my BIOS. This didn't give any more different results than booting 
normally, except that the ad8 device wasn't created. The system just 
stopped loading after creating the acd0 device. So, that must not have 
been the problem, I thought. Then I disconnected the power and ATA cable 
from the problematic hard drive, which yielded the same results.
Then, I disconnected my DVD drive, which didn't change the situation at 
all, except not creating the acd0 device at boot (And just hanging after 
initiating ad1, which is where I boot FreeBSD from)
So I tried booting in verbose mode, which I hoped would give some error, 
or at least a clue. It didn't. At all.
Then, my logic screamed at me, and I was smiling yet again. What if the 
verbose mode would give me a clue as to how the system manages to boot 
in safe mode? What if it tells me something like this and that was 
skipped, proceeding safe boot? After having figured out how to boot in 
safe AND verbose mode (By editing /boot/beastie.4th a little. Maybe 
booting in safe mode should be a 'boot' flag?), I happily rebooted the 
box again. Nothing broke from my edit, and it booted. I watched the 
screen and the scrolling text in anticipation, like a little boy on 
Christmas who is hoping that Santa will bring him the bike he's always 
wanted.
As the kernel, very verbosely, complained about not being able to read 
stuff on the ad8 device, this kids eyes lighted up. He approached the 
Christmas tree, thinking that he had spotted the bike. And then, BAM. 
Everything with this boys name on the label under the tree was a soft 
package. Five packages from Santa; all soft. The kid lost hope, yet 
again, as his highly anticipated informative error messages were nowhere 
to find.


I've attached the verbose dmesg.boot, in the hopes that someone will 
bring me a hard package with my name on it - before next Christmas.
Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `vnlru' to stop...done
Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `bufdaemon' to stop...done
Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `syncer' to stop...
Syncing disks, vnodes remaining...8 8 4 3 3 0 0 done
All buffers synced.
Copyright (c) 1992-2006 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE #0: Sun May  7 04:32:43 UTC 2006
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
Preloaded elf kernel /boot/kernel/kernel at 0xc0abe000.
Preloaded elf module /boot/kernel/snd_es137x.ko at 0xc0abe188.
Preloaded elf module /boot/kernel/sound.ko at 0xc0abe238.
Calibrating clock(s) ... i8254 clock: 1193262 Hz

Re: adjkerntz[]: sysctl(get_offset): No such file or directory

2006-06-18 Thread Rod Person
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On Sunday 18 June 2006 11:01 am, Andrey Slusar wrote:
 Sun, 18 Jun 2006 08:50:03 -0400, Rod Person wrote:
  On Sunday 18 June 2006 8:28 am, Rod Person wrote:
   Machine is an AMD Dual Opteron 246 running FreeBSD 6.1 Stable i386.
 
  Sorry, It's FreeBSD 7.0 Current i386 - it's a dual boot and I got
  confused :)

  Are you read src/UPDATING?

Doing as UPDATING say gives me that error also.

- -- 
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http://www.opensourcebeef.net
http://blog.opensourcebeef.net
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don't know how to make libsmutil.a

2006-06-18 Thread nthwaver

I've been trying to follow these directions for setting up a secure
mailserver: http://www.puresimplicity.net/~hemi/freebsd/sendmail.html

Step 4 under Sendmail setup has given me continuous problems, mostly
ending with this error:

  make: don't know how to make
/usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../lib/libsmutil/libsmutil.a. Stop

As suggested in this thread, I tried first updating the source tree
with cvsup and typed make buildworld in /usr/src:
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2005-May/086150.html

However, after running for an hour or two, make buildworld exited
with an error code, with the same message!

  make: don't know how to make
/usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../lib/libsmutil/libsmutil.a. Stop

I am using FreeBSD 6.0-release, and updated with the RELENG_6_0.  This
system has been installed since around March and before today I've
only updated the ports tree.  This was my first attempt to update the
source.  Have I missed any steps that have caused these errors?
Thanks.

- Jordan
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Re: don't know how to make libsmutil.a

2006-06-18 Thread Derek Ragona
You may need to cvsup again, as you may have done it before the makefile 
for sendmail was properly updated.


Or, you can download and build sendmail from source.

-Derek


At 03:10 PM 6/18/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I've been trying to follow these directions for setting up a secure
mailserver: http://www.puresimplicity.net/~hemi/freebsd/sendmail.html

Step 4 under Sendmail setup has given me continuous problems, mostly
ending with this error:

  make: don't know how to make
/usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../lib/libsmutil/libsmutil.a. Stop

As suggested in this thread, I tried first updating the source tree
with cvsup and typed make buildworld in /usr/src:
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2005-May/086150.html

However, after running for an hour or two, make buildworld exited
with an error code, with the same message!

  make: don't know how to make
/usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../lib/libsmutil/libsmutil.a. Stop

I am using FreeBSD 6.0-release, and updated with the RELENG_6_0.  This
system has been installed since around March and before today I've
only updated the ports tree.  This was my first attempt to update the
source.  Have I missed any steps that have caused these errors?
Thanks.

- Jordan
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Re: I need a freebsd 5.3 desktop server; recommendations?

2006-06-18 Thread Dan Bikle

Well folks,

I did a bit more looking around.

I found this:
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=3762910

specs:
CPU: AMD Sempron 3000+

It is so cheap I'm tempted to buy it and take the risk that
I could install a recent version of FreeBSD on it.

Since it comes with Linux installed on it,
I'm tempted to think that the interface cards for the Video
and the keyboard, and the mouse are a common variety.

I have a question for any of you who have done a lot of FreeBSD installs
on a variety of hardware...
Would you gamble $368 that you could get FreeBSD installed on this thing?

-Dan

On 6/17/06, Dan Bikle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Thanks!

I worked with the links you sent me.
For desktop systems I narrowed the list to these offerings:

http://www.asaservers.com/config.asp?config_id=ASA%5FPC5

http://www.storeanywhere.com/pages/html/products/st.product_info.php?cPath=53products_id=143
http://eracks.com/products/Desktops

-Dan



On 6/17/06, Nikolas Britton  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 6/17/06, Dan Bikle  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I need a freebsd 5.3 desktop server.
 
  Do you have any recommendations for some vendors?
 
  I could go buy some commodity hardware and do the install myself
  but I seem to have bad luck with hands-on type tasks.
 
  I'm not picky about CPU; Intel or AMD is fine.
  Anything over 1.5 GHZ should do it.
 
  RAM?
  I guess 1GB would be good enough.
 
  Disk?
  A couple of 80GB drives would work.
 
  I live in San Jose, CA; A local vendor would be great.
 

 Your in luck, these guys are in San Jose:
 http://www.ironsystems.com/index.asp

 Here's the full list of venders:
 http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/hardware.html


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smoke and mirrors - any way to trick an app into thinking I'm running linux?

2006-06-18 Thread Jim Stapleton

Basically, I have an application that doesn't want to run in FreeBSD,
though it may still run given the compatability layer. I was wondering
if there was some way to make the OS respond when it ran the
application, that it was linux and not BSD.
i.e.



$ ./some_app
Sorry, we only deal with Linux people, go away!

$ sysctl.pretend.register /home/me/some_app generic-i386-linux
$ ./some_app
Hello world!


or


$ ./some_app
Sorry, we only deal with Linux people, go away!

$ pretend_os generic-i386-linux some_app
Hello world!


Thanks,
-Jim Stapleton
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SIIG Card Support

2006-06-18 Thread Gerard Seibert
Could anyone tell me if the SIIG Ultra ATA Ultra 100 Controller Card,
mfg.# SC-PE4A12 is supported in FBSD 6.1 or not? According to the
manufacturer, it only supports Windows; however, that is what most
manufacturers claim anyway.


Thanks!

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Re: pf + ftp throughput

2006-06-18 Thread Darrin Chandler
On Fri, Jun 16, 2006 at 02:31:07PM -0500, J.D. Bronson wrote:
 for a trial, I am going to fire up a drive loaded with OpenBSD 3.9 
 and PF and see if there is anything better/worse with the same pf.conf 
 file.

I've been playing at home, trying to reproduce this behavior (sparc64,
OpenBSD). I haven't done so yet, but I don't have the best test cases. I
tried with a 12M file across the 'net, and what looked like the same
issue went away, so it was just fluctuations on the net. I tried the
same file from the firewall itself to a client, and times are virtually
identical. What I really need is two local clients going through the
firewall. If I get that going I'll let you know what I find.

FWIW, I Googled pretty heavily for this and didn't turn up much. I found
one mailing list message from years ago describing *exactly* the same
problem. Unfortunately I didn't see any followups or further problem
reports.

Are you also doing nat/rdr on this box? Have you run tcpdump on the
pflog interface to make sure you're matching the rules you think? I'd
like to track this down, so please feel free to send me any info you
think pertains to this.

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Re: smoke and mirrors - any way to trick an app into thinking I'm running linux?

2006-06-18 Thread Alex Zbyslaw

Jim Stapleton wrote:


Basically, I have an application that doesn't want to run in FreeBSD,
though it may still run given the compatability layer. I was wondering
if there was some way to make the OS respond when it ran the
application, that it was linux and not BSD.
i.e.



$ ./some_app
Sorry, we only deal with Linux people, go away!

$ sysctl.pretend.register /home/me/some_app generic-i386-linux
$ ./some_app
Hello world!



That really rather depends on *how* the app is asking.  If you can tell 
us that, we can almost certainly tell you how to fool it.


Of course, if you have the source code, it should be easy as you can 
just comment out the test and recompile.


Mind you, if the app is as short-sighted and bloody-minded as its 
developers, maybe you should just look for an alternative.


--Alex


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Re: smoke and mirrors - any way to trick an app into thinking I'm running linux?

2006-06-18 Thread Jim Stapleton

I don't know how to find out, except that the app is the Crossover
Office demo installer. I'd like to try to find a way to trick it into
running in the linux compatability mode of FreeBSD if I can.

On 6/18/06, Alex Zbyslaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Jim Stapleton wrote:

 Basically, I have an application that doesn't want to run in FreeBSD,
 though it may still run given the compatability layer. I was wondering
 if there was some way to make the OS respond when it ran the
 application, that it was linux and not BSD.
 i.e.


 
 $ ./some_app
 Sorry, we only deal with Linux people, go away!

 $ sysctl.pretend.register /home/me/some_app generic-i386-linux
 $ ./some_app
 Hello world!
 

That really rather depends on *how* the app is asking.  If you can tell
us that, we can almost certainly tell you how to fool it.

Of course, if you have the source code, it should be easy as you can
just comment out the test and recompile.

Mind you, if the app is as short-sighted and bloody-minded as its
developers, maybe you should just look for an alternative.

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Re: smoke and mirrors - any way to trick an app into thinking I'm running linux?

2006-06-18 Thread Darrin Chandler
On Sun, Jun 18, 2006 at 10:13:03PM +0100, Alex Zbyslaw wrote:
 That really rather depends on *how* the app is asking.  If you can tell 
 us that, we can almost certainly tell you how to fool it.
 
 Of course, if you have the source code, it should be easy as you can 
 just comment out the test and recompile.
 
 Mind you, if the app is as short-sighted and bloody-minded as its 
 developers, maybe you should just look for an alternative.

I agree with the above. In addition, consider respecting the wishes of
the developer(s) and not using it. If they have any sort of free
license then you can always release a portable fork.

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Enabling acpi support renders system unbootable (was: kernel: ad8: FAILURE - READ timed out LBA=234441585)

2006-06-18 Thread Daniel A. A.

Daniel A. A. wrote:

Daniel A. A. wrote:

Hi,
Whenever I try to boot my desktop workstation with FreeBSD, it 
suddenly just hangs there forever. When I boot into safe mode, 
however, I get this in the dmesg:
Jun 18 16:01:46 b00b kernel: ad8: 114473MB Seagate ST3120022A 3.06 
at ata4-master PIO4

Jun 18 16:01:46 b00b kernel: ad8: FAILURE - READ timed out LBA=234441585
Jun 18 16:01:46 b00b kernel: ad8: TIMEOUT - READ retrying (1 retry 
left) LBA=0

Jun 18 16:01:46 b00b kernel: ad8: FAILURE - READ timed out LBA=234441631
Jun 18 16:01:46 b00b kernel: ad8: TIMEOUT - READ retrying (0 retries 
left) LBA=0

Jun 18 16:01:46 b00b kernel: ad8: FAILURE - READ timed out LBA=234441644
Jun 18 16:01:46 b00b kernel: ad8: FAILURE - READ timed out LBA=0
Jun 18 16:01:46 b00b kernel: ad8: FAILURE - READ timed out LBA=234441585
Jun 18 16:01:46 b00b kernel: ad8: TIMEOUT - READ retrying (1 retry 
left) LBA=0


The hard drive is connected to an onboard Promise FastTrak (atapci1: 
Promise PDC20376 SATA150 controller port 
0x8000-0x803f,0x7800-0x780f,0x7400-0x747f mem 
0xab80-0xab800fff,0xab00-0xab01 irq 11 at device 14.0 on 
pci0) controller on my Asus p4s8x motherboard. The drive itself is 
connected to the optional PATA connector, which works wonderfully in 
Windows.


I've currently managed to install Xorg and KDE on the box, all 
entirely in Safe Mode, but the performance is really bad, or not as 
good as it should be on a PC with a Pentium IV 2.4GHz and 1GB PC3200 
RAM.
Googling yields irrelevant results to my case, and search results for 
freebsd p4s8x (no quotes) indicate that FreeBSD should be working 
OK with my motherboard and all of its native components.


So, does anybody know how to
a) Fix this issue (or, if not)
b) How to prevent a specific device (atapci1 or ad8) from being 
loaded during boot time? Again, googling yields no results, but I 
might be querying the wrong strings.


Attached is my dmesg.boot

Thanks for any help.
  



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Well, go figure.
First, I disabled the SATA controller which I thought was the problem, 
in my BIOS. This didn't give any more different results than booting 
normally, except that the ad8 device wasn't created. The system just 
stopped loading after creating the acd0 device. So, that must not have 
been the problem, I thought. Then I disconnected the power and ATA 
cable from the problematic hard drive, which yielded the same results.
Then, I disconnected my DVD drive, which didn't change the situation 
at all, except not creating the acd0 device at boot (And just hanging 
after initiating ad1, which is where I boot FreeBSD from)
So I tried booting in verbose mode, which I hoped would give some 
error, or at least a clue. It didn't. At all.
Then, my logic screamed at me, and I was smiling yet again. What if 
the verbose mode would give me a clue as to how the system manages to 
boot in safe mode? What if it tells me something like this and that 
was skipped, proceeding safe boot? After having figured out how to 
boot in safe AND verbose mode (By editing /boot/beastie.4th a little. 
Maybe booting in safe mode should be a 'boot' flag?), I happily 
rebooted the box again. Nothing broke from my edit, and it booted. I 
watched the screen and the scrolling text in anticipation, like a 
little boy on Christmas who is hoping that Santa will bring him the 
bike he's always wanted.
As the kernel, very verbosely, complained about not being able to read 
stuff on the ad8 device, this kids eyes lighted up. He approached the 
Christmas tree, thinking that he had spotted the bike. And then, BAM. 
Everything with this boys name on the label under the tree was a soft 
package. Five packages from Santa; all soft. The kid lost hope, yet 
again, as his highly anticipated informative error messages were 
nowhere to find.


I've attached the verbose dmesg.boot, in the hopes that someone will 
bring me a hard package with my name on it - before next Christmas.



Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `vnlru' to stop...done
Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `bufdaemon' to stop...done
Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `syncer' to stop...
Syncing disks, vnodes remaining...8 8 4 3 3 0 0 done
All buffers synced.
Copyright (c) 1992-2006 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE #0: Sun May  7 04:32:43 UTC 2006
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
Preloaded elf kernel /boot/kernel/kernel at 0xc0abe000.
Preloaded elf module /boot/kernel/snd_es137x.ko at 0xc0abe188.
Preloaded elf 

Re: SIIG Card Support

2006-06-18 Thread Vulpes Velox
On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 16:55:37 -0400
Gerard Seibert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Could anyone tell me if the SIIG Ultra ATA Ultra 100 Controller
 Card, mfg.# SC-PE4A12 is supported in FBSD 6.1 or not? According to
 the manufacturer, it only supports Windows; however, that is what
 most manufacturers claim anyway.

No clue. I am happy with my Promise PDC20268 UDMA100 though. It is
nice and cheap as well.
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Re: I need a freebsd 5.3 desktop server; recommendations?

2006-06-18 Thread Chris Hill

On Sun, 18 Jun 2006, Dan Bikle wrote:


http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=3762910


[...]

It is so cheap I'm tempted to buy it and take the risk that I could 
install a recent version of FreeBSD on it.


[...]

Would you gamble $368 that you could get FreeBSD installed on this 
thing?


For a basic server, I probably would. But I would not count on the 
integrated graphics being useable in X. Especially since the page says 
Integrated Graphics up to 64 MB, default setting 32 MB, which leads me 
to think that this integrated graphics thingy uses system memory, which 
would be taken out of the not-overly-generous 512 MB. It will almost 
certainly work for your VGA console.


I also wouldn't count on the integrated sound or even ethernet. The 
modem, I can just about guarantee, is a winmodem and thus probably not 
useable. But in all cases, it's hard to know for sure since they don't 
say what the hardware is. The keyboard and mouse will probably work 
fine.


The subject line says desktop server. My take is that it would be iffy 
as a desktop (might work, you never know) but probably fine as a 
light-duty server, although you may need to add a $10 ethernet card.


I'd just double-check their return policy; if it turns out not to be 
what you wanted, send it back and keep looking.


HTH.

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Re: smoke and mirrors - any way to trick an app into thinking I'm running linux?

2006-06-18 Thread Bill Moran
Jim Stapleton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Basically, I have an application that doesn't want to run in FreeBSD,
 though it may still run given the compatability layer. I was wondering
 if there was some way to make the OS respond when it ran the
 application, that it was linux and not BSD.

Have a read of the man page for brandelf and see if that helps you.

-- 
Bill Moran

I lay down for a while, and I woke up on the ocean,
floating on my back, and staring at the grey.
It was completely still, 'cept for the pounding of my heart,
was bring me back to life, from three strange days.

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Re: SIIG Card Support

2006-06-18 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC


On Jun 18, 2006, at 2:55 PM, Gerard Seibert wrote:


Could anyone tell me if the SIIG Ultra ATA Ultra 100 Controller Card,
mfg.# SC-PE4A12 is supported in FBSD 6.1 or not? According to the
manufacturer, it only supports Windows; however, that is what most
manufacturers claim anyway.


You need to find out what chipset it has to see if there is any  
chance.  In my experience SiiG uses standard chipsets but puts a  
sticker over them so you don't know what one is used and so that they  
can change it without changing the part number of their card...


Best bet is to find a known card from the list

Chad


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Re: Python port problems

2006-06-18 Thread Joe Auty


On Jun 18, 2006, at 1:28 PM, Alex Zbyslaw wrote:


Joe Auty wrote:



On Jun 15, 2006, at 6:16 AM, Alex Zbyslaw wrote:


Joe Auty wrote:


jauty# python -v /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner
[...snip...]
# /usr/local/lib/python2.4/getopt.pyc matches /usr/local/lib/   
python2.4/getopt.py
import getopt # precompiled from /usr/local/lib/python2.4/ 
getopt.pyc
# /usr/local/mailman/bin/paths.pyc matches /usr/local/mailman/ 
bin/  paths.py

import paths # precompiled from /usr/local/mailman/bin/paths.pyc
[...snip...]



OK, you just ran qrunner successfully without getting the error  
you  were getting earlier about getopt.  Doesn't matter that all  
you got  was help, it found *everything* that it tried to import.


I missed the start of this thread.  How did you run qrunner to  
get  your earlier error and where did the error appear?  I think  
you  said the rc script.  If it's not too big can you post it?   
Or  compare it against your working mailman?




My Mailman rc script (exactly identical to the one on my working   
machine):


You're getting your error when mailman starts at boot time; is that  
right?


If so, what happens if you try as root (csh):

# sh -x /usr/local/etc/rc.d/mailman.sh start

(sh/bash)

# sh -x /usr/local/etc/rc.d/mailman.sh start

(you might have to check the exact name of the rc.d script).

If this starts mailman then something bizarre is going on.

If you get the same error as usual, then judicious snippets with  
the error and prior context.




Running the RC script under sh, csh, and bash yields the same error  
spew


I've attached the errors spewed out in their entirety:


# /usr/local/etc/rc.d/mailman.sh start
Could not find platform independent libraries prefix
Could not find platform independent libraries prefix
Could not find platform dependent libraries exec_prefix
Consider setting $PYTHONHOME to prefix[:exec_prefix]
'import site' failed; use -v for traceback
Traceback (most recent call last):
Could not find platform independent libraries prefix
Could not find platform dependent libraries exec_prefix
Consider setting $PYTHONHOME to prefix[:exec_prefix]
'import site' failed; use -v for traceback
Could not find platform independent libraries prefix
Could not find platform dependent libraries exec_prefix
Consider setting $PYTHONHOME to prefix[:exec_prefix]
'import site' failed; use -v for traceback
Traceback (most recent call last):
Could not find platform independent libraries prefix
Could not find platform dependent libraries exec_prefix
Consider setting $PYTHONHOME to prefix[:exec_prefix]
'import site' failed; use -v for traceback
Could not find platform independent libraries prefix
Could not find platform dependent libraries exec_prefix
Consider setting $PYTHONHOME to prefix[:exec_prefix]
'import site' failed; use -v for traceback
Could not find platform dependent libraries exec_prefix
Consider setting $PYTHONHOME to prefix[:exec_prefix]
'import site' failed; use -v for traceback
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 76, in ?
  File /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 76, in ?
  File /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 76, in ?
import getopt
ImportError: No module named getopt
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 76, in ?
import getopt
ImportError: No module named getopt
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 76, in ?
import getopt
ImportError: No module named getopt
Could not find platform independent libraries prefix
Could not find platform dependent libraries exec_prefix
Consider setting $PYTHONHOME to prefix[:exec_prefix]
'import site' failed; use -v for traceback
import getopt
ImportError: No module named getopt
Traceback (most recent call last):
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 76, in ?
import getopt
ImportError: No module named getopt
Could not find platform independent libraries prefix
Could not find platform dependent libraries exec_prefix
Consider setting $PYTHONHOME to prefix[:exec_prefix]
'import site' failed; use -v for traceback
import getopt
ImportError: No module named getopt
jauty#   File /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 76, in ?
import getopt
ImportError: No module named getopt
Could not find platform independent libraries prefix
Could not find platform independent libraries prefix
Could not find platform dependent libraries exec_prefix
Consider setting $PYTHONHOME to prefix[:exec_prefix]
'import site' failed; use -v for traceback
Could not find platform independent libraries prefix
Could not find platform dependent libraries exec_prefix
Consider setting $PYTHONHOME to prefix[:exec_prefix]
'import site' failed; use -v for traceback
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 76, in ?
import getopt
ImportError: No module named getopt
Could not find platform independent libraries prefix
Could not find platform 

Please help - adaptec 2820sa not allowing installation

2006-06-18 Thread Ensel Sharon

I did all my due diligence, I contacted freebsd-fs and _made sure_ that
even though the 2820sa is not listed by name in the HCL, that I could take
a 6.1-RELEASE cd and install freebsd on a 2820sa.

I was _assured_ that these cards are supported in 6.1-RELEASE, that all is
well, and I could install and that was that.

Now I boot off of the 6.1-RELEASE cd, and sysinstall tells me no disks
found.

I tried safe mode, same result.  I tried disabling all unnecessary items
from the BIOS (onboard sata, USB, com2, LPT) and same result.

FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE iso just does not find a disk controller.  Period.

So ... what do I do ??  I see no way of adding a driver to sysinstall
.. .and even if I did I have no idea what to put there, as the published
driver from adaptec is only for 5.x.

I have to assume that aac is built into the sysinstall kernel, so what
gives ?  Why can't sysinstall see my 2820sa cards ? (and drives)

Thanks.

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Re: Please help - adaptec 2820sa not allowing installation

2006-06-18 Thread Jahilliya

On 6/19/06, Ensel Sharon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I did all my due diligence, I contacted freebsd-fs and _made sure_ that
even though the 2820sa is not listed by name in the HCL, that I could take
a 6.1-RELEASE cd and install freebsd on a 2820sa.

I was _assured_ that these cards are supported in 6.1-RELEASE, that all is
well, and I could install and that was that.

Now I boot off of the 6.1-RELEASE cd, and sysinstall tells me no disks
found.

I tried safe mode, same result.  I tried disabling all unnecessary items
from the BIOS (onboard sata, USB, com2, LPT) and same result.

FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE iso just does not find a disk controller.  Period.

So ... what do I do ??  I see no way of adding a driver to sysinstall
.. .and even if I did I have no idea what to put there, as the published
driver from adaptec is only for 5.x.

I have to assume that aac is built into the sysinstall kernel, so what
gives ?  Why can't sysinstall see my 2820sa cards ? (and drives)


Try hitting scroll lock and then page up to view the dmesg or go to
the emergency console and run dmesg to see if it picked up any aac
devices. You may need to load the module yourself, you should be able
to do this from the emergency console (not sure tho).

I've steered clear of the *20SA series of cards from Adaptec (mainly
buying the 2410SA) for the two facts, SATA2 isn't listed anywhere on
the hardware list and only the xx10SA series SATA cards are listed.
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Fwd: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-18 Thread David Hoffman

-- Forwarded message --
From: David Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Jun 18, 2006 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: Serious breach of copyright -- First post
To: Brett [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I think a formal apology should be issued by the infringers.

Hasn't this gone on long enough?


On 6/18/06, Brett  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hello,

I have not received a response in regards to this article, and it
still does not hold the proper references.  I have posted a DMCA
takedown notice, which is available for viewing at
http://arbornet.org/~soup/dmca.htmlhttp://arbornet.org/%7Esoup/dmca.html. I 
urge the webmaster of the
infringing site to add the copyright references as soon as possible.

Thank you.

Bonjour à tous,
Je n'ai pas encore reçu de réponse au sujet de cet article, qui ne
porte pas ses réferences éxigées.  J'ai affiché un DMCA takedown
notice (en anglais seulement) sur mon site, que l'on peut voir au
http://arbornet.org/~soup/dmca.htmlhttp://arbornet.org/%7Esoup/dmca.html. Je 
demande cordialement au
webmaître du site non-autorisé d'ajouter les références éxigées dans
les plus brefs délais.

Merci.


On 6/18/06, David Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  It appears the page at
 http://www.houfug.org/help/install_freebsd.htm constitutes
 a serious breach of copyright.  The article, which was originally
written
 and posted to the Internet by the owner of the account [EMAIL PROTECTED],
is
 falsely attributed to the Houston FUG, whose members maliciously removed
all
 reference to its original creator.  On a related note, the FUG seems to
be
 part of an organized group to convince all States to adopt English as an

 official language, a bigoted and misguided policy.

 Plagiarism should not be tolerated.

 Thanks.



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Re: Fwd: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-18 Thread Joe Holden
David Hoffman wrote:
 -- Forwarded message --
 From: David Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Jun 18, 2006 8:38 PM
 Subject: Re: Serious breach of copyright -- First post
 To: Brett [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I think a formal apology should be issued by the infringers.

 Hasn't this gone on long enough?


 On 6/18/06, Brett  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello,

 I have not received a response in regards to this article, and it
 still does not hold the proper references.  I have posted a DMCA
 takedown notice, which is available for viewing at
 http://arbornet.org/~soup/dmca.htmlhttp://arbornet.org/%7Esoup/dmca.html.
 I urge the webmaster of the
 infringing site to add the copyright references as soon as possible.

 Thank you.

 Bonjour à tous,
 Je n'ai pas encore reçu de réponse au sujet de cet article, qui ne
 porte pas ses réferences éxigées.  J'ai affiché un DMCA takedown
 notice (en anglais seulement) sur mon site, que l'on peut voir au
 http://arbornet.org/~soup/dmca.htmlhttp://arbornet.org/%7Esoup/dmca.html.
 Je demande cordialement au
 webmaître du site non-autorisé d'ajouter les références éxigées dans
 les plus brefs délais.

 Merci.


 On 6/18/06, David Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   It appears the page at
  http://www.houfug.org/help/install_freebsd.htm constitutes
  a serious breach of copyright.  The article, which was originally
 written
  and posted to the Internet by the owner of the account
 [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 is
  falsely attributed to the Houston FUG, whose members maliciously
 removed
 all
  reference to its original creator.  On a related note, the FUG
 seems to
 be
  part of an organized group to convince all States to adopt English
 as an

  official language, a bigoted and misguided policy.
 
  Plagiarism should not be tolerated.
 
  Thanks.
 

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Sorry if im being naive, but what does this have to do with the official
FreeBSD project? and even more so, these lists?

Ta,
Joe



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Re: Please help - adaptec 2820sa not allowing installation

2006-06-18 Thread John Kozubik


On Mon, 19 Jun 2006, Jahilliya wrote:

 Try hitting scroll lock and then page up to view the dmesg or go to
 the emergency console and run dmesg to see if it picked up any aac
 devices. You may need to load the module yourself, you should be able
 to do this from the emergency console (not sure tho).

 I've steered clear of the *20SA series of cards from Adaptec (mainly
 buying the 2410SA) for the two facts, SATA2 isn't listed anywhere on
 the hardware list and only the xx10SA series SATA cards are listed.


Yes, that's a good point - which is why I was very cautious and made
doubly sure to ask very clearly on this mailing list can I install
freebsd 6.1 on a 2820sa even though it is not in the HCL and I was
assured that the answer was yes.

So you are saying you think that the 6.1-RELEASE iso does not have aac
built into it ?  After 4-5 years of it being in every install media, even
floppies, you think it suddenly is just not there anymore ?  I find that
difficult to believe...

I'll check the dmesg in scroll lock to be sure, but I am pretty sure it
comes up with nothing aac-related.
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RE: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-18 Thread Ingrid Kast Fuller
I responded to Bretts email 6 minutes after he informed me there maybe a
problem with this article.  He did NOT bother to tell me he was the owner of
it.  All I knew is someone named Brett at [EMAIL PROTECTED] was
letting me know there was a problem.  I immediately went to arbornet.org to
see where the original information was so I could find the originator's name
and emailed him back, here is my reply.  

-Original Message-
From: Ingrid Kast Fuller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 6:40 PM
To: 'Brett'
Subject: RE: concerned question

I got the information from the freebsd-config mailing list which is
referenced at the bottom. 
Do you know where the original information is on arbornet.org?  I would not
want to infringe on anyone's rights. 


Ingrid Kast Fuller
CityScope Net 713-477-6161
3910 Fairmont Parkway #264
Pasadena, TX 77504-3076
http://www.cityscope.net



-Original Message-
From: Brett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 6:34 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: concerned question

Hi.

It has come to my attention that you have an article, located at
http://www.houfug.org/help/install_freebsd.htm
that is hosted on your fine site and yet is not referenced.  It holds a
copyright reference for houfug, who did not write the article.
Please attribute the work to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .

Thank you,
A concerned citizen 


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Re: [Hou-freebsd] Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-18 Thread David Hoffman

On 6/18/06, Ingrid Kast Fuller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 If someone added it to the freebsd-config mailing list, they should not
have mailed a copyritten piece on a mailing list for public use.
This has been added to the bottom of the page since we are unsure of the
originator:



Things can be distributed on public mailing lists while still retaining
their copyright.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] did nothing to void his exclusive rights
to the work in question.

*We have been given the email address of: [EMAIL PROTECTED] as the original

copyright person. Unfortunately, we have no way of confirming this as yet.
We are trying to locate WHO originally wrote this. We took this off the
freebsd-config mailing list which is a public mailing list.*



You've been provided both with an archive of initial publication including
[EMAIL PROTECTED]'s address as the author, as well as a URL to a DMCA
takedown notice hosted in his webspace.  This is sufficient.

*It seems this David Hoffman is directly attacking our group. Because there

are no references to HOUFUG being a part of an organized group to adopt
English as the official language.   HOUFUG does not have any political ties
with anyone. We only have a FreeBSD mailing list to discuss FreeBSD issues.
*



I'm not directly attacking your group.  If you're not political, and I'm
arguing against something political, how could I possibly be 'attacking'
your group?

On a related note, the FUG seems to be part of an organized group to

convince all States to adopt English as an official language, a bigoted and
misguided policy.

I personally have a link to the US English organization on my PERSONAL
home page of www.ingridfuller.com.   This has nothing to do with HOUFUG or
FreeBSD at all.  What I believe in is my business and my right as a citizen
of the United States.  This is NOT a misguided or bigoted policy.  We've
been speaking English since Day 1 and the International Language is
ENGLISH.



You certainly have a right to be misguided and bigoted.  Americans have
spoken English since 'Day 1', but they've also spoken several other
languages since that time, and today speak even more.  The lingua franca of
the world today may be English, but it doesn't follow from that that it
should be the official language of all states.


*Ingrid Kast Fuller

**CityScope Net 713-477-6161
3910 Fairmont Parkway #264
Pasadena, TX 77504-3076
**http://www.cityscope.net* http://www.cityscope.net/


 --
*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*On Behalf Of *David Hoffman
*Sent:* Sunday, June 18, 2006 6:49 PM
*To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Cc:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org;
freebsd-chat@freebsd.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Subject:* [Hou-freebsd] Serious breach of copyright -- First post

**It appears the page at 
http://www.houfug.org/help/install_freebsd.htmconstitutes a serious breach of 
copyright.  The article, which was
originally written and posted to the Internet by the owner of the account
[EMAIL PROTECTED], is falsely attributed to the Houston FUG, whose members
maliciously removed all reference to its original creator.  On a related
note, the FUG seems to be part of an organized group to convince all States
to adopt English as an official language, a bigoted and misguided policy.

Plagiarism should not be tolerated.

Thanks.


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Re: Please help - adaptec 2820sa not allowing installation

2006-06-18 Thread Ensel Sharon


On Mon, 19 Jun 2006, Jahilliya wrote:

 Try hitting scroll lock and then page up to view the dmesg or go to
 the emergency console and run dmesg to see if it picked up any aac
 devices. You may need to load the module yourself, you should be able
 to do this from the emergency console (not sure tho).
 
 I've steered clear of the *20SA series of cards from Adaptec (mainly
 buying the 2410SA) for the two facts, SATA2 isn't listed anywhere on
 the hardware list and only the xx10SA series SATA cards are listed.


Ok, aac is in the dmesg.

I can see both 2820sa cards in the dmesg, and I see no errors, etc. -
there are just no drives listed in dmesg.

My setup is 8 500 Gb drives in a single raid-6 array, size ~2.8TB.  Any
problems with that ?  Perhaps sysinstall cannot deal with a 2TB drive
?  There are no other drives in the system besides the single 2.8TB raid 6
array ...

Thanks.

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Re: Please help - adaptec 2820sa not allowing installation

2006-06-18 Thread Jahilliya

On 6/19/06, John Kozubik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



On Mon, 19 Jun 2006, Jahilliya wrote:

 Try hitting scroll lock and then page up to view the dmesg or go to
 the emergency console and run dmesg to see if it picked up any aac
 devices. You may need to load the module yourself, you should be able
 to do this from the emergency console (not sure tho).

 I've steered clear of the *20SA series of cards from Adaptec (mainly
 buying the 2410SA) for the two facts, SATA2 isn't listed anywhere on
 the hardware list and only the xx10SA series SATA cards are listed.


Yes, that's a good point - which is why I was very cautious and made
doubly sure to ask very clearly on this mailing list can I install
freebsd 6.1 on a 2820sa even though it is not in the HCL and I was
assured that the answer was yes.

So you are saying you think that the 6.1-RELEASE iso does not have aac
built into it ?  After 4-5 years of it being in every install media, even
floppies, you think it suddenly is just not there anymore ?  I find that
difficult to believe...

I'll check the dmesg in scroll lock to be sure, but I am pretty sure it
comes up with nothing aac-related.


I'm saying it's a possibility if you're not seeing anything AAC
related in the dmesg and you should make sure that it is in the kernel
or loaded as a module by running kldload (kldload will give some error
about symbol already existing if it is built into the kernel).
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Re: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-18 Thread Brett

Hello

I hope the DMCA copyright notice, found at
http://arbornet.org/~soup/dmca.html , clears up any confusion.

thank you!
On 6/18/06, Ingrid Kast Fuller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I responded to Bretts email 6 minutes after he informed me there maybe a
problem with this article.  He did NOT bother to tell me he was the owner of
it.  All I knew is someone named Brett at [EMAIL PROTECTED] was
letting me know there was a problem.  I immediately went to arbornet.org to
see where the original information was so I could find the originator's name
and emailed him back, here is my reply.

-Original Message-
From: Ingrid Kast Fuller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 6:40 PM
To: 'Brett'
Subject: RE: concerned question

I got the information from the freebsd-config mailing list which is
referenced at the bottom.
Do you know where the original information is on arbornet.org?  I would not
want to infringe on anyone's rights.


Ingrid Kast Fuller
CityScope Net 713-477-6161
3910 Fairmont Parkway #264
Pasadena, TX 77504-3076
http://www.cityscope.net



-Original Message-
From: Brett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 6:34 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: concerned question

Hi.

It has come to my attention that you have an article, located at
http://www.houfug.org/help/install_freebsd.htm
that is hosted on your fine site and yet is not referenced.  It holds a
copyright reference for houfug, who did not write the article.
Please attribute the work to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .

Thank you,
A concerned citizen




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Re: Please help - adaptec 2820sa not allowing installation

2006-06-18 Thread Jahilliya

Ok, aac is in the dmesg.

I can see both 2820sa cards in the dmesg, and I see no errors, etc. -
there are just no drives listed in dmesg.

My setup is 8 500 Gb drives in a single raid-6 array, size ~2.8TB.  Any
problems with that ?  Perhaps sysinstall cannot deal with a 2TB drive
?  There are no other drives in the system besides the single 2.8TB raid 6
array ...



Have you got any other drives you can attach to the raid?

If so, disconnect the 8 drives connected, connect up a couple that are
not part of the raid and configure them as a simple raid 1 and see if
the installers sees that raid. Or try any combination in drives to
bring the raid size down below 2TB (I'm sure this limitation has been
fixed.)
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Re: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-18 Thread David Hoffman

It'll certainly be less confusing that what HouFUG is publishing.  They've
now noted on their site that it was written by you.  However, they STILL
claim they own the copyright.  Have you waived any of your exclusive rights
to the work?

On 6/18/06, Brett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hello

I hope the DMCA copyright notice, found at
http://arbornet.org/~soup/dmca.html , clears up any confusion.

thank you!
On 6/18/06, Ingrid Kast Fuller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I responded to Bretts email 6 minutes after he informed me there maybe a
 problem with this article.  He did NOT bother to tell me he was the
owner of
 it.  All I knew is someone named Brett at [EMAIL PROTECTED] was
 letting me know there was a problem.  I immediately went to arbornet.orgto
 see where the original information was so I could find the originator's
name
 and emailed him back, here is my reply.

 -Original Message-
 From: Ingrid Kast Fuller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 6:40 PM
 To: 'Brett'
 Subject: RE: concerned question

 I got the information from the freebsd-config mailing list which is
 referenced at the bottom.
 Do you know where the original information is on arbornet.org?  I would
not
 want to infringe on anyone's rights.


 Ingrid Kast Fuller
 CityScope Net 713-477-6161
 3910 Fairmont Parkway #264
 Pasadena, TX 77504-3076
 http://www.cityscope.net



 -Original Message-
 From: Brett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 6:34 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: concerned question

 Hi.

 It has come to my attention that you have an article, located at
 http://www.houfug.org/help/install_freebsd.htm
 that is hosted on your fine site and yet is not referenced.  It holds a
 copyright reference for houfug, who did not write the article.
 Please attribute the work to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .

 Thank you,
 A concerned citizen





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syslog all commands

2006-06-18 Thread Lawrence Horvath

Im looking for a way to syslog all commands run my a group of users, i
was looking at the authpriv.debug but it doesn't log _every_ command,
is there anyother way to syslog all the commands run by a user?

thanks


-Lawrence
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Re: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-18 Thread David Hoffman

Update:  their website now attributes copyright to both HouFUG AND Brett.
This is despite the fact that Brett seems to be the sole owner of the work.
I'm not sure why this community feels it can disregard rights to
intellectual property, especially when it produces so much on its OWN to be
proud of.  Why steal other people's stuff?

On 6/18/06, David Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


It'll certainly be less confusing that what HouFUG is publishing.  They've
now noted on their site that it was written by you.  However, they STILL
claim they own the copyright.  Have you waived any of your exclusive rights
to the work?

On 6/18/06, Brett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello

 I hope the DMCA copyright notice, found at
 http://arbornet.org/~soup/dmca.htmlhttp://arbornet.org/%7Esoup/dmca.html, 
clears up any confusion.

 thank you!
 On 6/18/06, Ingrid Kast Fuller  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I responded to Bretts email 6 minutes after he informed me there maybe
 a
  problem with this article.  He did NOT bother to tell me he was the
 owner of
  it.  All I knew is someone named Brett at [EMAIL PROTECTED] was
  letting me know there was a problem.  I immediately went to
 arbornet.org to
  see where the original information was so I could find the
 originator's name
  and emailed him back, here is my reply.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Ingrid Kast Fuller [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 6:40 PM
  To: 'Brett'
  Subject: RE: concerned question
 
  I got the information from the freebsd-config mailing list which is
  referenced at the bottom.
  Do you know where the original information is on arbornet.org?  I
 would not
  want to infringe on anyone's rights.
 
 
  Ingrid Kast Fuller
  CityScope Net 713-477-6161
  3910 Fairmont Parkway #264
  Pasadena, TX 77504-3076
  http://www.cityscope.net
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Brett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 6:34 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: concerned question
 
  Hi.
 
  It has come to my attention that you have an article, located at
  http://www.houfug.org/help/install_freebsd.htm
  that is hosted on your fine site and yet is not referenced.  It holds
 a
  copyright reference for houfug, who did not write the article.
  Please attribute the work to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
 
  Thank you,
  A concerned citizen
 
 
 




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Fwd: Fwd: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-18 Thread David Hoffman

-- Forwarded message --
From: David Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Jun 18, 2006 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: Fwd: Serious breach of copyright -- First post
To: Dennis Olvany [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org,
[EMAIL PROTECTED], thisdayislong [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 6/18/06, Dennis Olvany [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I had a look at http://www.houfug.org/help/install_freebsd.htm and I am
afraid that you will find this article is not eligible for copyright. It
constitutes neither an artistic nor literary work. The article conveys
only facts and facts are not eligible for copyright.




I'm afraid you're incorrect.  The work in question is indeed copyrightable
under the Berne Convention, which many countries have ratified, including
the United States, where the content is hosted.  The United States, as well
as many other countries, also have national laws which allow this work to be
copyrighted.

It's also important to note that HouFUG clearly believes the work can be
copyrighted, since they have included a copyright notice on the page.  This
implies tremendous bad faith:  regardless of whether or not the article is
copyrightable (it is), they have removed any reference to the true owner and
have claimed it as their own.

This is not acceptable behaviour.
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Re: syslog all commands

2006-06-18 Thread David Scheidt
On Sun, Jun 18, 2006 at 06:06:45PM -0700, Lawrence Horvath wrote:
 Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 18:06:45 -0700
 From: Lawrence Horvath [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: syslog all commands
 
 Im looking for a way to syslog all commands run my a group of users, i
 was looking at the authpriv.debug but it doesn't log _every_ command,
 is there anyother way to syslog all the commands run by a user?
 

Is process accounting good enough?  It'll record the name of the
commands run by all users, what terminal they were run from, how much
cpu time they used, and start and stop times.  

See the man pages for acct(5) and lastcomm(1).  It's turned on by
setting accounting_enable=YES in /etc/rc.conf, and running
/etc/rc.d/accounting start

David
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linux_base-fc4

2006-06-18 Thread Jeff Molofee
After upgrading to linux_base-fc4, I've noticed a lot of applications 
and games that will no longer run. One of the games is HoH. I receive 
the following error when trying to run it... does anyone know how to fix 
this?


./HoH: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: 
cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory


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Re: Please help - adaptec 2820sa not ... RESOLVED

2006-06-18 Thread Ensel Sharon


On Mon, 19 Jun 2006, Jahilliya wrote:

  Ok, aac is in the dmesg.
 
  I can see both 2820sa cards in the dmesg, and I see no errors, etc. -
  there are just no drives listed in dmesg.
 
  My setup is 8 500 Gb drives in a single raid-6 array, size ~2.8TB.  Any
  problems with that ?  Perhaps sysinstall cannot deal with a 2TB drive
  ?  There are no other drives in the system besides the single 2.8TB raid 6
  array ...
 
 
 Have you got any other drives you can attach to the raid?
 
 If so, disconnect the 8 drives connected, connect up a couple that are
 not part of the raid and configure them as a simple raid 1 and see if
 the installers sees that raid. Or try any combination in drives to
 bring the raid size down below 2TB (I'm sure this limitation has been
 fixed.)


Ok, the answer is that it has not been fixed.

6.1 sysinstall does in fact see both 2820sa controllers, and when I put in
a single 160GB sata drive, it does see that single drive and I can install
onto it, etc.

Sysinstall does _not_ see my 2.7TB raid6 array.  I suspect that if it were
smaller than 2TB, it would see it correctly.

I have a number of options with which to deal with this, all of which
involve either wasting money or wasting disk space.  Fantastic.

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Sendmail and high kernel CPU utilisation

2006-06-18 Thread Travis Fitch
Hello,

I was hoping someone might be able to shed some light on an issue I am
having with sendmail on FreeBSD 5.2.1 running on a Sun V120.

If you look at the snippet from top you can see that several sendmail
process are casing the kernel to use ~ 65% of the CPU. I am having some
issues profiling what is causing this issue. You can also see the load is
quite high.

last pid: 72705;  load averages: 12.22, 12.29, 12.00
up 1+06:09:44  11:42:28
86 processes:  14 running, 72 sleeping
CPU states: 35.5% user,  0.0% nice, 64.5% system,  0.0% interrupt,  0.0%
idle
Mem: 148M Active, 104M Inact, 73M Wired, 520K Cache, 60M Buf, 131M Free
Swap: 2057M Total, 102M Used, 1954M Free, 4% Inuse

  PID USERNAME  PRI NICE   SIZERES STATETIME   WCPUCPU COMMAND
20958 root  1220 23368K  5472K RUN 44:32  8.64%  8.64% sendmail
62864 root  1220 23432K  5528K RUN 10:45  8.54%  8.54% sendmail
70522 root  1220 23448K  5544K RUN  2:43  8.35%  8.35% sendmail
91279 smmsp 1220 12224K  3832K RUN 60:17  8.25%  8.25% sendmail
66302 root  1220 23392K  5472K RUN  8:36  8.25%  8.25% sendmail
16850 root  1220 23432K  5528K RUN 51:31  8.20%  8.20% sendmail
66306 root  1210 23448K  5528K RUN  8:34  8.11%  8.11% sendmail
68330 root  1210 23432K  5528K RUN  5:37  8.11%  8.11% sendmail
51654 root  1210 23392K  5472K RUN 16:40  8.06%  8.06% sendmail
66377 root  1210 23392K  5472K RUN  8:22  8.01%  8.01% sendmail
69364 root  1210 23432K  5504K RUN  3:50  8.01%  8.01% sendmail


The other interesting thing is that a lot of the SMTP connections hang
around for quite some time. These connection just keep building up and
slowly bring the system to a crawl.

correo:root# ps aux| grep -v grep | grep sendmail
root   62864  8.0  1.1 23432 5528  ??  R10:06AM  10:49.58 sendmail:
k5J06CMN062864 mx02.globalcenter.net.au [203.89.192.35]: DATA (sendmail)
root   66306  8.0  1.1 23448 5528  ??  R10:18AM   8:38.72 sendmail:
k5J0IoxC066306 omta02ps.mx.bigpond.com [144.140.83.154]: DATA (sendmail)
root   66377  7.9  1.1 23392 5472  ??  R10:20AM   8:26.25 sendmail:
k5J0KHGa066377 vpn02.commandhub.net [203.89.202.122]: DATA (sendmail)
root   20958  8.0  1.1 23368 5472  ??  R 5:14AM  44:36.44 sendmail:
k5IJF2bd020958 [83.173.162.41]: DATA (sendmail)
root   68330  8.0  1.1 23432 5528  ??  R10:43AM   5:41.33 sendmail:
k5J0hOAk068330 mx01.globalcenter.net.au [203.89.192.34]: DATA (sendmail)
root   69364  8.0  1.1 23432 5504  ??  R10:59AM   3:54.45 sendmail:
k5J0xmg6069364 omta05ps.mx.bigpond.com [144.140.83.195]: DATA (sendmail)
root   70522  8.0  1.1 23448 5544  ??  R11:11AM   2:47.79 sendmail:
k5J1BY7Y070522 mx01.globalcenter.net.au [203.89.192.34]: DATA (sendmail)
root   66302  8.0  1.1 23392 5472  ??  R10:18AM   8:40.20 sendmail:
k5J0If8t066302 vpn02.commandhub.net [203.89.202.122]: DATA (sendmail)
smmsp  91279  8.0  0.7 12224 3832  ??  Rs4:01AM  60:20.92 sendmail:
Queue [EMAIL PROTECTED]:10:00 for /var/spool/clientmqueue (sendmail)
root   16850  8.0  1.1 23432 5528  ??  R 4:30AM  51:34.91 sendmail:
k5IIUaWm016850 [201.150.67.51]: DATA (sendmail)
root   51654  8.0  1.1 23392 5472  ??  R 9:37AM  16:44.52 sendmail:
k5INbbYo051654 vpn02.commandhub.net [203.89.202.122]: DATA (sendmail)
root   91276  0.0  1.0 22928 5032  ??  Ss4:01AM   0:03.05 sendmail:
rejecting connections on daemon MSA: load average: 12 (sendmail)

I have rebuilt the world and kernel to see if the resolves my issue, but
alas no luck.

Hopefully someone will be able to point be in the right direction.

Regards,

Travis

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Re: X ATI driver? - solved, sort of

2006-06-18 Thread Walt Pawley
Operationally, at least, I seem to resolved my problem with
Xorg 6.9.0 and using the Mach32 ATI video card.

I included lines in xorg.conf.new in Section Device ...

Option  tv_out false
Option  tv_standard None

I suspect only the latter is necessary but haven't experimented to see.

The reason for doing this seems to me to be some bugs in the
ATI driver arrangement and Xorg general code. It seems that
there are many implementations of strncasecmp in different
packages, despite what seems to be a standard available in
libc (???). Xorg's is xf86strncasecmp and is written so that it
goes ahead and dereferences a null pointer if one is passed to
it - hence the segment error crash.

The null pointer comes from the string TvStd not being
initialized when ATIProcessOptions runs with the Xorg
-configure generated xorg.conf.new file. While I haven't
traced how the variable gets defined, by changing the option
above, that would seem to be the effect as it quits crashing
subsequently.
-- 

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Re: Please help - adaptec 2820sa not ... RESOLVED

2006-06-18 Thread Eric Anderson

Ensel Sharon wrote:


On Mon, 19 Jun 2006, Jahilliya wrote:


Ok, aac is in the dmesg.

I can see both 2820sa cards in the dmesg, and I see no errors, etc. -
there are just no drives listed in dmesg.

My setup is 8 500 Gb drives in a single raid-6 array, size ~2.8TB.  Any
problems with that ?  Perhaps sysinstall cannot deal with a 2TB drive
?  There are no other drives in the system besides the single 2.8TB raid 6
array ...


Have you got any other drives you can attach to the raid?

If so, disconnect the 8 drives connected, connect up a couple that are
not part of the raid and configure them as a simple raid 1 and see if
the installers sees that raid. Or try any combination in drives to
bring the raid size down below 2TB (I'm sure this limitation has been
fixed.)



Ok, the answer is that it has not been fixed.

6.1 sysinstall does in fact see both 2820sa controllers, and when I put in
a single 160GB sata drive, it does see that single drive and I can install
onto it, etc.

Sysinstall does _not_ see my 2.7TB raid6 array.  I suspect that if it were
smaller than 2TB, it would see it correctly.

I have a number of options with which to deal with this, all of which
involve either wasting money or wasting disk space.  Fantastic.


Right - FreeBSD doesn't recognize 2TB LUNs.  You should make two LUNs, 
and concat them or stripe them with GEOM.  Don't use the large partition 
for the OS either.


You shouldn't waste either disk space or money.


Eric


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Re: Fwd: Fwd: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-18 Thread Dennis Olvany

...facts are not eligible for copyright.



I'm afraid you're incorrect.  The work in question is indeed copyrightable
under the Berne Convention, which many countries have ratified, including
the United States, where the content is hosted.  The United States, as well
as many other countries, also have national laws which allow this work 
to be

copyrighted.


At best, the article may be considered a derivative work of the 
described software/hardware and therefore the intellectual property of 
the respective manufacturers.

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Re: syslog all commands

2006-06-18 Thread Lawrence Horvath

I was kinda hoping for arguments as well, and possibly the time and
date of when it was run.

On 6/18/06, David Scheidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Sun, Jun 18, 2006 at 06:06:45PM -0700, Lawrence Horvath wrote:
 Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 18:06:45 -0700
 From: Lawrence Horvath [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: syslog all commands

 Im looking for a way to syslog all commands run my a group of users, i
 was looking at the authpriv.debug but it doesn't log _every_ command,
 is there anyother way to syslog all the commands run by a user?


Is process accounting good enough?  It'll record the name of the
commands run by all users, what terminal they were run from, how much
cpu time they used, and start and stop times.

See the man pages for acct(5) and lastcomm(1).  It's turned on by
setting accounting_enable=YES in /etc/rc.conf, and running
/etc/rc.d/accounting start

David



I was kinda hoping for arguments as well, and possibly the time and
date of when it was run.
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Re: Please help - adaptec 2820sa not ... RESOLVED

2006-06-18 Thread Ensel Sharon


On Sun, 18 Jun 2006, Eric Anderson wrote:

  6.1 sysinstall does in fact see both 2820sa controllers, and when I put in
  a single 160GB sata drive, it does see that single drive and I can install
  onto it, etc.
  
  Sysinstall does _not_ see my 2.7TB raid6 array.  I suspect that if it were
  smaller than 2TB, it would see it correctly.
  
  I have a number of options with which to deal with this, all of which
  involve either wasting money or wasting disk space.  Fantastic.
 
 Right - FreeBSD doesn't recognize 2TB LUNs.  You should make two LUNs, 
 and concat them or stripe them with GEOM.  Don't use the large partition 
 for the OS either.
 
 You shouldn't waste either disk space or money.


Let's say I have 8 disks.

Let's say I require raid6.

If I make one array, I lose 25% to raid overhead.

If I make two arrays, I lose 50% to raid overhead.

So it would seem that my inability to use a 2TB LUN does indeed lose me
both space and waste money.

My solution is to use two disks as a mirror, and use the other six for a
raid6 array, thus losing 3/8 to raid overhead instead of 4/8, but it's
still worse than 2/8 which is what I wanted to do ...

Perhaps I misunderstand you ?

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Re: additions in adzap

2006-06-18 Thread Ian Pulsford

dharam paul wrote:

Hi,
Where is the location of 'squid_redirect' for adzap in
freebsd?
On Windows I can locate it. 


Regards


/usr/local/libexec/squid_redirect

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pkgdb.db locked

2006-06-18 Thread Lewis McLouth

Hello.

When I run the command pkgdb -Fu, I get the response

[Rebuilding the pkgdb format:dbm_hash in /var/db/pkg ... can't convert 
String into Integer: Cannot update the pkgdb!]


I think I know where I goofed, so here's the story on my suspected mistake.

I just upgraded from RELENG_5_4 to RELENG_6, which went fairly smooth.  
I'm now upgrading my ports but I was foolish today and ran portupgrade 
without first reading /usr/ports/UPDATING.  I think this is the source 
of my problem (as in, running the command.  Of course not reading 
UPDATING is another problem! but I don't need help with that). 


So, I first ran

portupgrade -arR

portupgrade did not upgrade linux_base-8 and instead reported that it 
was marked as IGNORE and to use linux_base-fc-4.  So, I ran the commands


cd /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-8
make deinstall
cd ../linux_base-fc-4
make install clean

This it did fine, but when I now try to run pkgdb -Fu, I get the 
following output:


[Rebuilding the pkgdb format:dbm_hash in /var/db/pkg ... can't convert 
String into Integer: Cannot update the pkgdb!]


I then read /usr/ports/UPDATING, saw that linux_base-8 was dropped and 
replaced by linux_base-fc-4.


So, I then did the suggested command.

portupgrade -f -o emulators/linux_base-fc4 linux_base\*

This produced

[Rebuilding the pkgdb format:dbm_hash in /var/db/pkg ... [Rebuilding 
the pkgdb format:dbm_hash in /var/db/pkg ... ** Database file locked. 
Waiting.

** Timeout. Lock looks dead. Remove it.
/usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/pkgdb.rb:261:in `origin': can't 
convert String into Integer: Cannot update the pkgdb!] (PkgDB::DBError)

   from /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/pkginfo.rb:178:in `origin'
   from /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/pkgdb.rb:977:in `tsort_build'
   from /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/pkgdb.rb:971:in `tsort_build'
   from /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/pkgdb.rb:993:in `sort_build'
   from /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/pkgdb.rb:997:in `sort_build!'
   from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:705:in `main'
   from /usr/local/lib/ruby/1.8/optparse.rb:815:in `initialize'
   from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:216:in `main'
   from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:2048

I've googled for the phrase 'pkgdb Lock looks dead' and various 
combinations of the output hoping to learn how to unlock pkgdb.db but 
with no luck.  Plus, I cannot locate pkgdb.dg with


ls -a /var/db/pkg

My questions are:  How do I remove the lock on pkgdb?  Where does 
pkgdb.db go when its locked? find does not locate it.  I ran


find / pkgdb.db | grep pkgdb.db
find: pkgdb.db: No such file or directory

Also, if pkgdb.db was deleted, how do I rebuild the pkgdb.db? (pkgdb -f 
does not rebuild pkgdb.db, I just checked)


The output of uname -a and ls /var/db/pkg are attached.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks

Lewis
ORBit2-2.14.0_1
a2ps-a4-4.13b_3
acroread7-7.0.1_2,1
acroreadwrapper-0.0.20060221
apache-ant-1.6.5_1
artwiz-fonts-1.0_1
atk-1.11.4_1
autoconf-2.13.000227_5
autoconf-2.59_2
automake-1.4.6_2
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bison-2.1_2
bitstream-vera-1.10_2
cairo-1.0.4_1
cdplayer.app-1.7_1
coreutils-5.2.1
cups-base-1.1.23.0_9
cvsup-16.1h_2
db4-4.0.14_1,1
db41-4.1.25_3
dbh-1.0.24_1
dbus-0.62
desktop-file-utils-0.11
djbfft-0.76_2
dri-6.4.1,2
expat-2.0.0_1
firefox-1.5.0.4,1
fontconfig-2.3.2_5,1
freefont-ttf-20060126
freefonts-0.10_2
freetype2-2.1.10_3
gamin-0.1.7_2
gcc-ooo-3.4.1_2
gconf2-2.14.0_2
gdbm-1.8.3_2
gettext-0.14.5_2
glib-1.2.10_12
glib-2.10.3
glitz-0.4.4_1
gmake-3.80_2
gnome-vfs-2.14.2_3
gnomehier-2.1_2
gnomemimedata-2.4.2
gnutls-1.2.11
google-earth-4
gtk-1.2.10_15
gtk-2.8.19
gtk-xfce-engine-2.2.8_1
help2man-1.36.4_1
hicolor-icon-theme-0.5
imake-6.9.0
intltool-0.35.0
javavmwrapper-2.3
jdk-1.4.2p8_3
jmk-x11-fonts-3.0
jpeg-6b_4
lame-3.96.1
lcms-1.14_1,1
libIDL-0.8.6_2
libXft-2.1.7_1
liba52-devel-0.7.4.2005112800
libart_lgpl2-2.3.17_1
libbonobo-2.14.0_2
libcdaudio-0.99.12p2_1
libdaemon-0.10_1
libdrm-2.0.1_1
libdvdcss-1.2.9_2
libdvdread-0.9.4_1
libgcrypt-1.2.2_1
libglade2-2.5.1_5
libgpg-error-1.3
libiconv-1.9.2_2
libmad-0.15.1b_2
libmikmod-3.1.11_1
libmng-1.0.9
libogg-1.1.3,3
libproplist-0.10.1_1
libtool-1.5.22_2
libungif-4.1.4_1
libvorbis-1.1.2,3
libxfce4gui-4.2.3_1
libxfce4mcs-4.2.3_1
libxfce4util-4.2.3.2_1
libxml2-2.6.26
linc-1.0.3_6
links-2.1.p21,1
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linux-atk-1.8.0_2
linux-expat-1.95.7_1
linux-fontconfig-2.2.3_4
linux-glib2-2.4.8_2
linux-gtk2-2.4.14_4
linux-jpeg-6b.33_1
linux-pango-1.6.0_2
linux-png-1.2.8_1
linux-sun-jdk-1.4.2.12
linux-tiff-3.6.1_6
linux_base-fc-4_1
linux_dri-4.4.0
m4-1.4.4
mozilla-1.7.13,2
mozilla-fonts-1.0_1
mplayer-gtk-0.99.7_15
mplayer-skins-1.1.2_1
nas-1.8
nasm-0.98.39,1
nspr-4.6.1
nss-3.11.1
ogle-0.9.2_5
ogle-gui-0.9.2_5
open-motif-2.2.3_2
openldap-client-2.2.30
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p5-Compress-Zlib-1.41
p5-File-Temp-0.16_4
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p5-Test-Harness-2.62
p5-Test-Simple-0.62
p5-XML-Parser-2.34_2

Re: Python port problems

2006-06-18 Thread Joe Auty

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

I sent on this problem to the Mailman list and got the following  
response is this useful?





Joe Auty wrote:



On Jun 18, 2006, at 12:41 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:



Joe Auty wrote:



When I try to startup the Mailport FreeBSD port via its rc  
script, I

get the following:


... snipped all sorts of stuff 

Traceback (most recent call last):
Could not find platform independent libraries prefix
  File /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 76, in ?





First it seems some configuration step may have been missed.  
prefix
should have been replaced with a path - probably /usr/local/ 
mailman/.




Hmmm...

How do I correct this?




I have no idea. What I said in my first response still applies.




This same port works on another FreeBSD machine of mine. I've posed
this question to the FreeBSD Questions list, but I seem to have
baffled some, which is why I thought I would post this question  
here.

I hope this appropriate to post here.




You might compare the 'rc' file on this machine to the one on the
working machine. That might provide a clue.


This is the paragraph I was referring to above by what I said ...




We probably can't be much help either. The output you posted seems
'interleaved' and is not too intelligible without knowing what is
being run. In general, we are not able to help much with 3rd party
packages when the problem is with the package rather than the
underlying Mailman.




Just in case you'd like to take a stab at this, I'm enclosing the
full error message. I'd *really* appreciate your help if you are able
to help me, since I'd really like to get Mailman running again on
this computer somehow, and have reached the end of my rope...




The full output really isn't any more help than the excerpt, since we
still have no idea what's in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/mailman.sh that's
producing all these errors. This script is part of your FreeBSD port.
It's not in our distribution. Also, we have no idea in what ways files
we do know about have been changed in your package.

One wild guess - look at bin/paths.py. It should contain real paths as
definitions for 'prefix' and 'exec_prefix'. If it's wrong, then so
probably are cron/paths.py and scripts/paths.py (and who knows what
else).

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NetMusician: web publishing software for musicians
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Re: Please help - adaptec 2820sa not ... RESOLVED

2006-06-18 Thread Eric Anderson

Ensel Sharon wrote:


On Sun, 18 Jun 2006, Eric Anderson wrote:


6.1 sysinstall does in fact see both 2820sa controllers, and when I put in
a single 160GB sata drive, it does see that single drive and I can install
onto it, etc.

Sysinstall does _not_ see my 2.7TB raid6 array.  I suspect that if it were
smaller than 2TB, it would see it correctly.

I have a number of options with which to deal with this, all of which
involve either wasting money or wasting disk space.  Fantastic.
Right - FreeBSD doesn't recognize 2TB LUNs.  You should make two LUNs, 
and concat them or stripe them with GEOM.  Don't use the large partition 
for the OS either.


You shouldn't waste either disk space or money.



Let's say I have 8 disks.

Let's say I require raid6.

If I make one array, I lose 25% to raid overhead.

If I make two arrays, I lose 50% to raid overhead.

So it would seem that my inability to use a 2TB LUN does indeed lose me
both space and waste money.


I suppose if you call increased redundancy 'waste' then yes.  Wouldn't 
two 4 disk RAID 5 arrays give you similar (not exactly, but close) 
redundancy to the RAID6 option, and keep your space up?  If you require 
RAID6, then the point is mute, and you're stuck with multiple RAID6 
arrays unless your controller allows you to carve LUNs from the array, 
so you could create a 2.7TB 8 disk RAID6, then carve off a few LUNs for 
the OS to see.


By the way - FreeBSD isn't the only OS without the addressing necessary 
to support 2TB SCSI LUNs.



My solution is to use two disks as a mirror, and use the other six for a
raid6 array, thus losing 3/8 to raid overhead instead of 4/8, but it's
still worse than 2/8 which is what I wanted to do ...

Perhaps I misunderstand you ?


That sounds reasonable, and should give you a working setup.  Judging by 
the disks and setup, it sounds like you are looking for a good archive 
type storage, and not high performance (high-IO) storage, so the above 
configuration would suit you just fine I suspect.


Eric



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Re: [Hou-freebsd] Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-18 Thread Tom Rhodes
On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 19:44:02 -0500
Ingrid Kast Fuller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If someone added it to the freebsd-config mailing list, they should not have
 mailed a copyritten piece on a mailing list for public use.
 This has been added to the bottom of the page since we are unsure of the
 originator: 

Viewing the page, it does seem to have the email address listed,
with a name.  Now, I haven't checked the name, mainly because
I have not emailed this person; however, regardless of the issues
discussed, the FreeBSD doesn't control user groups.  The so
called issue should be taken up with the user group in question.

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