OpenOffice2 with german user interface
Hello - Forwarded message from Simon Phoenix [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: Simon Phoenix [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Phoenix Lab. To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Martin Schweizer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OpenOffice2 with german user interface Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 18:35:20 +0300 On Sunday 13 August 2006 17:47, Martin Schweizer wrote: Hello I installed OOo2 successfully on FreeBSD 6.1 with KDE 3.5.3. The default language for the user interface is english. How I can change the user interface to german? What I've done: - set the environment to DE like described in the handbook (and it works) - installed the rpm package from the OOo site with german language (for linux/intel) Install from ports: # For German make LOCALIZED_LANG=de install clean All make knobs are in the /usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2.0/files/Makefile.knobs - End forwarded message - I did the above but the user interface is again in english (also not possible to change in the settings). What did I wrong? -- Regards Martin Schweizer [EMAIL PROTECTED] PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH; Bannholzstrasse 6; CH-8608 Bubikon Tel. +41 55 243 30 00; Fax: +41 55 243 33 22; http://www.pc-service.ch; public key : http://www.pc-service.ch/pgp/public_key.asc; fingerprint: EC21 CA4D 5C78 BC2D 73B7 10F9 C1AE 1691 D30F D239; pgpiCmvHJQ53n.pgp Description: PGP signature
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Recommended remote management card for FreeBSD 6.X?
Hi, What remote management card (like Drac, for example) would you recommend for a FreeBSD 6.X Server? -- Philippe Lang, Ing. Dipl. EPFL Attik System rte de la Fonderie 2 1700 Fribourg Switzerland http://www.attiksystem.ch Tel: +41 (26) 422 13 75 Fax: +41 (26) 422 13 76 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: Recommended remote management card for FreeBSD 6.X?
Philippe Lang skrev: Hi, What remote management card (like Drac, for example) would you recommend for a FreeBSD 6.X Server? I guess you'll get as many replies as there are vendors here, but my 2 cents worth of advice is to go with the HP iLO / iLO2 - they work like a charm! Nick. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Creating pkg-plist - problems
Under 6.1 I'm trying to build a port (R-2.3.1) following the instructions in the porters-handbook and particularly I'm having a go at creating the pkg-plist file as suggested in the point 7.5 of http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/plist-autoplist.html now,there is said: Next, create a temporary directory tree into which your port can be installed, and install any dependencies. # mkdir /var/tmp/$(make -V PORTNAME) # mtree -U -f $(make -V MTREE_FILE) -d -e -p /var/tmp/$(make -V PORTNAME) # make depends PREFIX=/var/tmp/$(make -V PORTNAME) but, when I try: % make -V PORTNAME R BUT % mkdir /var/tmp/$(make -V PORTNAME) the answer is Nome di variabile non lecito that is variable name not allowed What's wrong with it? Ciao Vittorio ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: easy patch management tools
Aaron Bliss wrote: I was wondering if there are any packagement tools for freebsd/pcbsd that offer simular functionality to up2date or yum; I take care of installing and updating complete rpm based systems using yum, and have not found a tool simular to yum for freebds (I'm also trying to stay away from pbi's, since they are specific to pcbsd); I've used the pkg_add, pkg_delete, portupgrade tools, but am just looking for an easy way to ensure my entire bsd box is updated; Having never used yum or up2date myself, I wonder - how does it differ from using portupgrade? Is the only difference in that portupgrade builds the software locally whereas yum and up2date install binaries, or is there more to it? If binaries vs source is the only difference then portupgrade does offer a way to update all installed ports. Also, as I understand it, bsd makes use of ports, by using tools such as cvsup, however I have never had much success compiling my own software, as such much prefer to use binary packages, which I understand that the freebsd authors provide; Using ports is not the same as building/installing software yourself from source. All the complications are handled by port maintainers and we happy users only need to type 'make install'. So there's really no need to be scared. The only downside of ports (as far as I can see) is that building them takes more time than installing from binaries. for example, if I wanted to install pine, I would much rather install it by running pkg_add -r pine ; I'm just looking for a simple way to update currently installed binaries, simular to installing new binaries with pkg_add ; thanks very much for your help with this. I still recommend using ports and portupgrade. Actually, I don't use portupgrade myself, because I am a masochist. But from the comments on this list it seems to be pretty good. -- Toomas Aas ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KBTV setup problem
Are you by chance attempting to use bktr's MSP for sound (kernel option)? That's not supported by kbtv (unless someone who has a card to reproduce this writes the code), only wiring through the soundcard. HTH, Dan On Wednesday 06 September 2006 05:09, Mike jeays wrote: Has anyone else encountered this problem with KBTV? Note that the line showing the mixer channel seems to lack an entry. chaucer 501 /usr/home/mike # btsetup btsetup show BKTR - BrookTree/Conexant BT8x8 based cards === BKTR MODULE LOADED... Yes BKTR DEVICE PERMISSIONS.. OK BKTR CAPTURE CHIP BrookTree 878 BKTR TV CARD. Hauppauge WinCast/TV BKTR TUNER TYPE.. Philips NTSC SAA - Philips SAA713x based cards === SAA MODULE LOADED No SAA DEVICE PERMISSIONS... Not OK PWC - Philips and compatible USB webcams === PWC MODULE LOADED No PWC DEVICE PERMISSIONS... Not OK SOUND - Sound card and tuner sound wiring === SND MODULE LOADED Yes AUDIO CHIP... CMedia CMI8738 MIXER CHANNEL FOR TV. btsetup quit chaucer 502 /usr/home/mike # kbtv kbtv: WARNING: KLocale: trying to look up in catalog. Fix the program Traceback (most recent call last): File ./kbtv_application.py, line 136, in ? mainwindow = KbtvPart(player) File /usr/local/share/apps/kbtv/kbtv_part.py, line 118, in __init__ self.extendToolbar() File /usr/local/share/apps/kbtv/kbtv_part.py, line 389, in extendToolbar self.toolbarwidget = KbtvToolbarWidget(self, tb) File /usr/local/share/apps/kbtv/kbtv_toolbar.py, line 48, in __init__ self.mixerchan = bthardware.MIXER_CHANNEL_NAMES.index(mchan) ValueError: list.index(x): x not in list ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: easy patch management tools
Aaron Bliss wrote: Hi everyone, first let me say that I'm pretty new to bsd, so please forgive the newbie questions; I've been using linux (redhat, suse, centos) for many years, and so learning bsd was a bit of a learning curve, but not bad (I almost never use gui's for administration); I was wondering if there are any packagement tools for freebsd/pcbsd that offer simular functionality to up2date or yum; I take care of installing and updating complete rpm based systems using yum, and have not found a tool simular to yum for freebds (I'm also trying to stay away from pbi's, since they are specific to pcbsd); I've used the pkg_add, pkg_delete, portupgrade tools, but am just looking for an easy way to ensure my entire bsd box is updated; Also, as I understand it, bsd makes use of ports, by using tools such as cvsup, however I have never had much success compiling my own software, as such much prefer to use binary packages, which I understand that the freebsd authors provide; for example, if I wanted to install pine, I would much rather install it by running pkg_add -r pine ; I'm just looking for a simple way to update currently installed binaries, simular to installing new binaries with pkg_add ; thanks very much for your help with this. I am assuming you have FreeBSD 6.1 installed. Using the ports system is really quite easy. It is rather imperative however that you read the /usr/ports/UPDATING test prior to updating your ports. It has tips, etc that you might require. An important one is the switch to Fedora Core 4 as the linux base. You can locate it under: 20060616 in the UPDATING document. I would recommend that you run portsnap to update your ports. Read the man for documentation. Then follow the directions in UPDATING to get the linux base port updated. You might need to install 'portupgrade' unless you installed it during your original installation process. Now, there are several options for updating you entire system. Personally, I prefer 'portmanager' for handling the task. You will have to install it as it is not part of the base system. After installing it, just run: portmanager -f -l -y That will rebuild your program base and insure that the dependencies are correct. HTH -- Gerard Seibert [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: easy patch management tools
On 9/5/06, Aaron Bliss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, first let me say that I'm pretty new to bsd, so please forgive the newbie questions; I've been using linux (redhat, suse, centos) for many years, and so learning bsd was a bit of a learning curve, but not bad (I almost never use gui's for administration); I was wondering if there are any packagement tools for freebsd/pcbsd that offer simular functionality to up2date or yum; I take care of installing and updating complete rpm based systems using yum, and have not found a tool simular to yum for freebds (I'm also trying to stay away from pbi's, since they are specific to pcbsd); I've used the pkg_add, pkg_delete, portupgrade tools, but am just looking for an easy way to ensure my entire bsd box is updated; I personally use portupgrade and portaudit to manage my installed ports and have no complaints. I find portupgrade to be extremely easy to use (after your first mistake or two ;) and use portaudit to determine if any of my critical ports actually *need* upgrading. Though, I should mention that I've heard others on this list who prefer portmaster over portupgrade for various reasons. You should probably look into both and see which one suits you best. You can also you security/freebsd-update to keep your base system updated with errata fixes. Also, as I understand it, bsd makes use of ports, by using tools such as cvsup, I would suggest using portsnap as is much more newb-friendly than cvsup. -David -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# fortune Happiness is just an illusion, filled with sadness and confusion. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Acepting lnown bad mail?
I just built a replacement machine for one that died at work. The system was quite old, and I'm struggling to get the new one to do all the things the older one did. The current issue is, the new machine gets mail using fetchmail from another machine for local delivery, so that I can read it. A good deal of this (internal only) mail has malformed headers, fixing this is a big task, as it comes from a lot of legacy machines provided by a control system vendor running old versions of Solaris. What's going on is that the local sendmail on the new machine is rejecting these mails. Like this Sep 6 06:50:43 brown sm-mta[12249]: k86Ai3w8012249: ruleset=check_mail, arg1=r [EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=localhost [127.0.0.1], reject=451 4.1.8 Doma in of sender address [EMAIL PROTECTED] does not resolve S Now I _know_ this is a laformed header, but, (at least right now), I'd like for sendmail to just take the mail, without being so picky about it. Is there a rule I can tweak to accomplish this? -- Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity. (Dennis Ritchie) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: News of latest Release
On 06/09/2006 06:57, Mohit parkash wrote: To Free BSD, I m Mohit the admin of FlyNix http://flynix.co.nr (Linux Coustomization Community )would like to request u that. If FreeBSD has a launch any of its new addition can u inform me via mail. so that i can give this news on my site. Thankyou Mohit. Hi Mohit, just subscribe to freebsd-announce[*] list. You'll get a message when something 'big' happens, like 6.1 release. Here's an example: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-announce/2006-May/001064.html HTH, Karol [*] http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-announce -- Karol Kwiatkowski freebsd at orchid dot homeunix dot org OpenPGP: http://www.orchid.homeunix.org/carlos/gpg/0x06E09309.asc signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Acepting lnown bad mail?
--On 06 September 2006 06:59 -0400 stan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's going on is that the local sendmail on the new machine is rejecting these mails. Like this Sep 6 06:50:43 brown sm-mta[12249]: k86Ai3w8012249: ruleset=check_mail, arg1=r [EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=localhost [127.0.0.1], reject=451 4.1.8 Doma in of sender address [EMAIL PROTECTED] does not resolve S Now I _know_ this is a laformed header, but, (at least right now), I'd like for sendmail to just take the mail, without being so picky about it. Is there a rule I can tweak to accomplish this? Not really a FreeBSD question ;) Having said that, you probably need to look at adding: FEATURE(accept_unresolvable_domains In your sendmail config... -Kp ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New machine, mouse scroll wheel not working
stan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I just set up a new 6 CURRENT machine with xorg, and KDE. The scroll wheel on my mouse does not seem to be scrolling anything. I have the follwinf lines in /etc/X11/xorg.conf Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse0 Driver mouse Option Protocol auto Option Device /dev/sysmouse Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 6 7 EndSection The mose itself works OK, bith in X/KDE, and in the consoles. More of an x.org question than FreeBSD.org, but you may not have that many buttons. I'm not sure what would happen in that case; I assume you've checked the X logs? [I have just 4 5 for the ZAxisMapping parameter, for a simple Compaq-branded wheel mouse.] -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Acepting lnown bad mail?
On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 12:11:12PM +0100, Karl Pielorz wrote: --On 06 September 2006 06:59 -0400 stan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's going on is that the local sendmail on the new machine is rejecting these mails. Like this Sep 6 06:50:43 brown sm-mta[12249]: k86Ai3w8012249: ruleset=check_mail, arg1=r [EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=localhost [127.0.0.1], reject=451 4.1.8 Doma in of sender address [EMAIL PROTECTED] does not resolve S Now I _know_ this is a laformed header, but, (at least right now), I'd like for sendmail to just take the mail, without being so picky about it. Is there a rule I can tweak to accomplish this? Not really a FreeBSD question ;) Having said that, you probably need to look at adding: FEATURE(accept_unresolvable_domains In your sendmail config... Thanks, I'll give that a try. -- Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity. (Dennis Ritchie) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Disabling background fsck?
ON machines that I'm actively making chnages on, and may make frequent reboots, I'd like to disable backgroundfsck to avoid the risk of rebooting wile t is still running. How can i do this? -- Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity. (Dennis Ritchie) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Disabling background fsck?
On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 07:29:07AM -0400, stan wrote: ON machines that I'm actively making chnages on, and may make frequent reboots, I'd like to disable backgroundfsck to avoid the risk of rebooting wile t is still running. How can i do this? Just add the line background_fsck=NO to /etc/rc.conf -- Insert your favourite quote here. Erik Trulsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ebook reader
Thanks a lot, will definately give them a try. On 9/6/06, Henry Lenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/5/06, Ivan Levchenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there anything in the ports tree for reading books on the computer? something like Tom Reader or Ice book reader for windows? I don't know what those are, since I don't use Windows. For ebooks, there are a variety of choices. These choices depend on the format of the ebook. Note that PDB files are proprietary and who know how they're specified...Which means for PDB files, I can't offer any solution. All this stuff is in ports: Type of file Solution - PDF epdfviewer, kpdf, gv, xpdf, acrobat, gpdf PostScript (PS)gv, ggv (?) dvi probably xdvi chm xchm djvu djvulibre, JavaDjVu A note on djvu: although djvulibre is in /usr/ports/graphics, I could not get the viewer (djview) to work properly. Two solutions are: 1) grab the tarball and compile it yourself (in, say, /opt) - very simple to do, just read the INSTALL file; 2) Install the FreeBSD official JDK package and make your file manager use JavaDjVu associated with djvu files - remember to move the jar (IIRC) to the directory where you store your djvu files. Hope this helps. Cheers, Henry Lenzi -- Best Regards, Ivan Levchenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: solaris
On 2006-09-05 22:50, Bill-Schoolcraft [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If just a relatively small handful of dedicated FreeBSD coders can produce an OS that will install on damm near ANYTHING I always found it troubling that SUN Microsystems, with all it's resources, could not, at the least, make their x86 OS (think Solaris-10) install with support, for lets say, what FreeBSD had for 4.2? I mean, all the drivers are available, wouldn't one think that they could at least support what FreeBSD supports in terms of number of devices? I don't speak officially *for* FreeBSD, but let's be a bit realistic shall we? There are both good and bad points for both FreeBSD and Solaris. I'm sure someone can find hardware on which FreeBSD can not be installed at all. The same can be said for Solaris. In the end, it is all a matter of what hardware you have and what your particular application requires :-) Having said that, I am more comfortable with the FreeBSD-way of doing most things, so when I have the choise and *both* systems can be used, I usually pick FreeBSD just because it is the one I know best. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Creating pkg-plist - problems
vittorio wrote: Under 6.1 I'm trying to build a port (R-2.3.1) following the instructions in the porters-handbook and particularly I'm having a go at creating the pkg-plist file as suggested in the point 7.5 of http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/plist-autoplist.html now,there is said: Next, create a temporary directory tree into which your port can be installed, and install any dependencies. # mkdir /var/tmp/$(make -V PORTNAME) # mtree -U -f $(make -V MTREE_FILE) -d -e -p /var/tmp/$(make -V PORTNAME) # make depends PREFIX=/var/tmp/$(make -V PORTNAME) but, when I try: % make -V PORTNAME R BUT % mkdir /var/tmp/$(make -V PORTNAME) the answer is Nome di variabile non lecito that is variable name not allowed What's wrong with it? This is Bourne shell syntax and you are using tcsh. Either type sh and follow the instructions or replace $(make -V PORTNAME) by `make -V PORTNAME` --jona ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: solaris
Just a point, I'm the proud owner of _at least_ 2 different current types of Sun hardware, that FreeBSD does not work on, at least not wekk enoygh to deploy production machines that is. Blade 1500's don't work _at all_ and U40's are too unstable to deploy. It's shame,as for the applications I bought these machines for, I'd prefer FreeSBSD. On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 03:15:14PM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On 2006-09-05 22:50, Bill-Schoolcraft [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If just a relatively small handful of dedicated FreeBSD coders can produce an OS that will install on damm near ANYTHING I always found it troubling that SUN Microsystems, with all it's resources, could not, at the least, make their x86 OS (think Solaris-10) install with support, for lets say, what FreeBSD had for 4.2? I mean, all the drivers are available, wouldn't one think that they could at least support what FreeBSD supports in terms of number of devices? I don't speak officially *for* FreeBSD, but let's be a bit realistic shall we? There are both good and bad points for both FreeBSD and Solaris. I'm sure someone can find hardware on which FreeBSD can not be installed at all. The same can be said for Solaris. In the end, it is all a matter of what hardware you have and what your particular application requires :-) Having said that, I am more comfortable with the FreeBSD-way of doing most things, so when I have the choise and *both* systems can be used, I usually pick FreeBSD just because it is the one I know best. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity. (Dennis Ritchie) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
gdb does not want to attach to a primitive process
Subject: gdb does not want to attach to a primitive process
I have written the next program:
// foo.c
#include unistd.h
int main(void) {
sleep(30);
return 0;
}
compiled it with
cc -g -o foo foo.c
then run it with
./foo
then switched to another tty and tried to attach to the process:
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/Programming]$ ps
PID TT STAT TIME COMMAND
...
2160 v5 S+ 0:00.00 ./foo
...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/Programming]$ gdb
GNU gdb 6.1.1 [FreeBSD]
Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are
welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions.
Type show copying to see the conditions.
There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type show warranty for details.
This GDB was configured as i386-marcel-freebsd.
(gdb) attach 2160
Attaching to process 2160
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/gdb/libgdb/../../../../contrib/gdb/gdb/solib-svr4.c:1443:
internal-error: legacy_fetch_link_map_offsets called without legacy link_map
support enabled.
A problem internal to GDB has been detected,
further debugging may prove unreliable.
Quit this debugging session? (y or n) y
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/gdb/libgdb/../../../../contrib/gdb/gdb/solib-svr4.c:1443:
internal-error: legacy_fetch_link_map_offsets called without legacy link_map
support enabled.
A problem internal to GDB has been detected,
further debugging may prove unreliable.
Create a core file of GDB? (y or n) y
Abort trap: 6 (core dumped)
--- end of screenshot ---
ttyv5 (were ./foo was running) reads the following:
--- begin of screenshot ---
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/Programming]$ ./foo
Killed: 9
--- end of screenshot ---
Is this program too difficult to gdb?
Elisej Babenko
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Re: solaris
--- Giorgos Keramidas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On 2006-09-05 22:50, Bill-Schoolcraft
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If just a relatively small handful of dedicated
FreeBSD coders can
produce an OS that will install on damm near
ANYTHING I always found
it troubling that SUN Microsystems, with all it's
resources, could
not, at the least, make their x86 OS (think
Solaris-10) install with
support, for lets say, what FreeBSD had for 4.2?
I mean, all the drivers are available, wouldn't
one think that they
could at least support what FreeBSD supports in
terms of number of
devices?
I don't speak officially *for* FreeBSD, but let's be
a bit realistic
shall we? There are both good and bad points for
both FreeBSD and
Solaris. I'm sure someone can find hardware on
which FreeBSD can not
be installed at all. The same can be said for
Solaris. In the end,
it is all a matter of what hardware you have and
what your particular
application requires :-)
Having said that, I am more comfortable with the
FreeBSD-way of doing
most things, so when I have the choise and *both*
systems can be used,
I usually pick FreeBSD just because it is the one I
know best.
I think to be fair, SUN is mostly concerned with
making an OS for THEIR hardware and systems, and it is
nice of them to release an x86 version for free.
FreeBSD.org is only concerned with releasing an OS and
since they don't develop hardware they must support
more stuff because they have more hackers at their
disposal making obscure equipment work. And if it
didn't work the relatively small group of users would
shrink even more, or run Linux; {shudders.}
SUN sells to the military and those with deep pockets
who can afford their equipment, FreeBSD is just trying
to keep the spirit of BSD alive and well. It makes
sense that SUN will only use a few configurations of
PCs that are likely to be found in a military
contractor, or enterprise corporations arsenal;
especially on a system (V10) they release without
making money. Its unfortunate but that is life; I'm
sure in their minds if you can get it to run on a PC
they hope you will buy a Sparc of Sunfire, or whatever
line their up too now. It's advertising.
I think the important thing to remember in all this is
every system using one version of UNIX over another is
one more machine not running NT. And since NT is
single handedly stealing code, and destroying
internationally set standards I think the more UNIX
the merrier. Even if you're running a Mac... I find
the most important thing is trying to get people to
realize a computer isn't ment to tell you what you can
or cannot do, an Administrator should be able to kill
any running process on a system, you should be able to
choose what software is installed on your computer,
your web browser or PNP system shouldn't allow Viruses
or software in general to be installed on your machine
without your knowledge or consent, and most
importantly you should be able to take your hard drive
out of your machine and put it in another one and keep
on going.
Solaris is cool if it will run, FreeBSD will run if
Solaris won't; lets band together and destroy
Micrsoft... :)
-brian
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can i build more than one world on a buildserver?
is it possible to have STABLE and RELENG built on a single build server? or further, is it possible to have 5.5 and 6.1 worlds built from the same machine? just wondering. :) thanks, jonathan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: can i build more than one world on a buildserver?
Jonathan Horne wrote: is it possible to have STABLE and RELENG built on a single build server? or further, is it possible to have 5.5 and 6.1 worlds built from the same machine? Yes. Just slice up your disk and use one of the extra slices to install your other version. AFAIK, you need one slice per system because you can only boot from the a partition is a slice. You have to use a real slice not a logical/extended one. Or just get an extra disk and install extra system to that. Of course, you can only *run* one at a time, but you can certainly share user data between builds (though any binaries probably require compat packages). This is generally how I upgrade between major revisions. I have extra /, /usr, /var and /usr/local (called /alt, /alt/var...) and I install new version to the alt partitions. Then use boot manager to pick which to boot. Once I am happy with the new version I either copy it across to the original partitions or just boot the new partitions from then on and use the old partitions as the alts. --Alex ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ClamAV upgrade
Greetings, I am running Freebsd 6.0-release. I have installed a mail server using the freebsd.qmailrocks.org. I am not familiar with clamav which is installed. ClamAV generates messages in the log that it needs upgraded. Currently at version 0.83 and needs to be 0.88.1. The ClamAV website FAQ for upgrades shows a binaries page. When I look for the Freebsd binary it says to use the /usr/ports system. Anybody have a pointer to the process to upgrade ClamAV ? thanks in advance, Darryl ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: solaris
--- backyard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] I think the important thing to remember in all this is every system using one version of UNIX over another is one more machine not running NT. And since NT is single handedly stealing code, and destroying internationally set standards I think the more UNIX the merrier. Even if you're running a Mac... I find the most important thing is trying to get people to realize a computer isn't ment to tell you what you can or cannot do, an Administrator should be able to kill any running process on a system, you should be able to choose what software is installed on your computer, your web browser or PNP system shouldn't allow Viruses or software in general to be installed on your machine without your knowledge or consent, and most importantly you should be able to take your hard drive out of your machine and put it in another one and keep on going. IMHO, you are way over simplifying this. An OS should accomplish easily what an end users deems necessary. A very large majority of users simply want to use their PCs for email, occasional word processing and possible game playing. Perhaps even playing a video or music. Most of these can be far more easily done on a WinXP machine then anything now available in the *nix family. I have spent hours and still can not get flash to work correctly on my PC. Getting a printer to work can be a chore. There was ever a post just the other day regarding the simple use of a CD Drive. I have seen questions asked about using a floppy drive. The list goes on and on. Most seven year olds would be lost on a on FreeBSD machine. FreeBSD is an excellent tool, but it does not serve every purpose excellently. I use it as a server both for mail, and web use. I leave the printing and word processing/spreadsheet stuff on Windows where it works quite nicely. I have tried Open Office. No matter what anyone says, it is just not as full featured as Word 2003. It is not even close. I agree that a large portion of the problems relate to the fact that vendors are not inclined to produce drivers for their products, which in many cases lends these devices either useless or crippled in a FreeBSD environment. However, you cannot hold a gun to their head and expect them to expend the resources required to satisfy every OS available if the monetary returns do not justify it. That is simple economics 101. By the way, you can shut down processes, etc. on a WinXP platform; you just have to know where to look. That is similar to any other OS. You are missing the concept behind Windows. It is designed to be a drop in and run system. Dozens of user polls have shown that the average user just wants to use his PC. He/she does not want to read tons of manuals and spend hours in a frustrating attempt to get it to run. The average user does not care about configuring firewall, AV or Spyware, etc. Just drop in a copy of ZA with perhaps Sunbelt's Counter Spy and they are on their way. They want a new printer - no problem. Drop in the CD, it configures the PC for the printer and the jobs done. Please, don't tell me about the friend who did that and it did not work. Nothing always works. Usually though the problem can be attributed to 'PEBKC'. Solaris is cool if it will run, FreeBSD will run if Solaris won't; lets band together and destroy Micrsoft... :) Please, I just had a friend laid of from Intel. The last thing I would want to see is MS out of business and thousands of people out of work because of your seemingly unqualified hated of a product. If you don't like it, don't use it. How much simpler can it get? I seriously doubt that you can submit proof of a single individual laid off because MS does not embrace your philosophical beliefs. -- White Hat __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ClamAV upgrade
You'll need to start freshclam. Put in /etc/rc.conf the following line. clamav_freshclam_enable=YES then start freshclam /usr/local/etc/rc.d/clamac-freshclam start -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Darryl Hoar Verzonden: woensdag 6 september 2006 16:41 Aan: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Onderwerp: ClamAV upgrade Greetings, I am running Freebsd 6.0-release. I have installed a mail server using the freebsd.qmailrocks.org. I am not familiar with clamav which is installed. ClamAV generates messages in the log that it needs upgraded. Currently at version 0.83 and needs to be 0.88.1. The ClamAV website FAQ for upgrades shows a binaries page. When I look for the Freebsd binary it says to use the /usr/ports system. Anybody have a pointer to the process to upgrade ClamAV ? thanks in advance, Darryl ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: can i build more than one world on a buildserver?
is it possible to have STABLE and RELENG built on a single build server? or further, is it possible to have 5.5 and 6.1 worlds built from the same machine? I realise you may have meant, use one server to build different worlds for different source trees for later installation on other machines. In which case, you can also do that by cvsup-ing your source to somewhere other that /usr/src (e.g. /usr/src-6-STABLE) and building from there. That's the theory, there may be a bit more to it in practise; I've never done it but I'm sure it can be done. hackers@ has had questions in this vein so you could try searching it's archives if no-one here replies with the info. --Alex PS Your server bounced my direct reply: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: host zeus.dfwlp.com [208.11.134.127]: 550 5.7.1 Access denied ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: solaris
On 06/09/06, White Hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have tried Open Office. No matter what anyone says, it is just not as full featured as Word 2003. It is not even close. True, but also compare the cost. Not even close... He/she does not want to read tons of manuals and spend hours in a frustrating attempt to get it to run. This is where you are completely wrong. I work for an ISP. I'm not responsible for tech support but I keep my ear to the ground. A VERY large number of callers have problems configuring Outlook Express, for example. No matter what the polls say, the experience is often very different. They may not read the manuals (because they are no longer supplied), they just ring a call centre instead. The average user does not care about configuring firewall, AV or Spyware, etc. Just drop in a copy of ZA with perhaps Sunbelt's Counter Spy and they are on their way. That's one statement contradicting the other. White Hat Frem. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ClamAV upgrade
evidently I don't have freshclam installed on the system as /usr/local/etc/rc.d does not contain clamac-freshclam. Is there any trick to installing freshclam ? Or do I just use /usr/ports ? thanks. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Johan Hendriks Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 9:59 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: ClamAV upgrade You'll need to start freshclam. Put in /etc/rc.conf the following line. clamav_freshclam_enable=YES then start freshclam /usr/local/etc/rc.d/clamac-freshclam start -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Darryl Hoar Verzonden: woensdag 6 september 2006 16:41 Aan: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Onderwerp: ClamAV upgrade Greetings, I am running Freebsd 6.0-release. I have installed a mail server using the freebsd.qmailrocks.org. I am not familiar with clamav which is installed. ClamAV generates messages in the log that it needs upgraded. Currently at version 0.83 and needs to be 0.88.1. The ClamAV website FAQ for upgrades shows a binaries page. When I look for the Freebsd binary it says to use the /usr/ports system. Anybody have a pointer to the process to upgrade ClamAV ? thanks in advance, Darryl ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: can i build more than one world on a buildserver?
Jonathan Horne wrote: is it possible to have STABLE and RELENG built on a single build server? or further, is it possible to have 5.5 and 6.1 worlds built from the same machine? just wondering. :) Take a look at misc/tinderbox, it may be just what you need. --jona ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KBTV setup problem
On Wed, 2006-09-06 at 12:36 +0200, Danny Pansters wrote: Are you by chance attempting to use bktr's MSP for sound (kernel option)? That's not supported by kbtv (unless someone who has a card to reproduce this writes the code), only wiring through the soundcard. HTH, Dan On Wednesday 06 September 2006 05:09, Mike jeays wrote: Has anyone else encountered this problem with KBTV? Note that the line showing the mixer channel seems to lack an entry. chaucer 501 /usr/home/mike # btsetup btsetup show BKTR - BrookTree/Conexant BT8x8 based cards === BKTR MODULE LOADED... Yes BKTR DEVICE PERMISSIONS.. OK BKTR CAPTURE CHIP BrookTree 878 BKTR TV CARD. Hauppauge WinCast/TV BKTR TUNER TYPE.. Philips NTSC SAA - Philips SAA713x based cards === SAA MODULE LOADED No SAA DEVICE PERMISSIONS... Not OK PWC - Philips and compatible USB webcams === PWC MODULE LOADED No PWC DEVICE PERMISSIONS... Not OK SOUND - Sound card and tuner sound wiring === SND MODULE LOADED Yes AUDIO CHIP... CMedia CMI8738 MIXER CHANNEL FOR TV. btsetup quit chaucer 502 /usr/home/mike # kbtv kbtv: WARNING: KLocale: trying to look up in catalog. Fix the program Traceback (most recent call last): File ./kbtv_application.py, line 136, in ? mainwindow = KbtvPart(player) File /usr/local/share/apps/kbtv/kbtv_part.py, line 118, in __init__ self.extendToolbar() File /usr/local/share/apps/kbtv/kbtv_part.py, line 389, in extendToolbar self.toolbarwidget = KbtvToolbarWidget(self, tb) File /usr/local/share/apps/kbtv/kbtv_toolbar.py, line 48, in __init__ self.mixerchan = bthardware.MIXER_CHANNEL_NAMES.index(mchan) ValueError: list.index(x): x not in list ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] No, I am trying to use the snd drivers via the built-in sound card in the motherboard. I removed all references to the TV card from the kernel definition file, and let it be loaded dynamically, as suggested in the documentation. chaucer 507 /etc # kldstat Id Refs AddressSize Name 1 37 0xc040 387d9c kernel 21 0xc0788000 3204 splash_bmp.ko 31 0xc078c000 4228 vesa.ko 41 0xc07dc000 328c snd_driver.ko 52 0xc07e 4d08 snd_ad1816.ko 6 29 0xc07e5000 1d9c8sound.ko 72 0xc0803000 4c4c snd_als4000.ko 82 0xc0808000 4fcc snd_cmi.ko 92 0xc080d000 5514 snd_cs4281.ko 104 0xc0813000 74b0 snd_csa.ko 112 0xc081b000 bedc snd_ds1.ko 122 0xc0827000 7674 snd_emu10k1.ko 132 0xc082f000 618c snd_es137x.ko 143 0xc0836000 4fd8 snd_ess.ko 155 0xc083b000 4894 snd_sbc.ko 162 0xc084 4984 snd_fm801.ko 173 0xc0845000 b3d0 snd_mss.ko 182 0xc0851000 5748 snd_ich.ko 192 0xc0857000 b508 snd_maestro.ko 202 0xc0863000 93f4 snd_maestro3.ko 212 0xc086d000 10928snd_neomagic.ko 222 0xc087e000 48cc snd_sb8.ko 232 0xc0883000 4ea0 snd_sb16.ko 242 0xc0888000 4530 snd_solo.ko 252 0xc088d000 51f8 snd_t4dwave.ko 262 0xc0893000 5418 snd_via8233.ko 272 0xc0899000 45a4 snd_via82c686.ko 282 0xc089e000 45a4 snd_vibes.ko 291 0xc08a3000 115fcbktr.ko 302 0xc08b5000 1e90 bktr_mem.ko 31 16 0xc08b7000 5683cacpi.ko 321 0xc1d32000 15000linux.ko chaucer 508 /etc # -- Mike Jeays [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.jeays.ca ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ClamAV upgrade
Darryl Hoar wrote: evidently I don't have freshclam installed on the system as /usr/local/etc/rc.d does not contain clamac-freshclam. As you mmention, you have ClamAV 0.83. If it is installed from FreeBSD ports/packages, this old version didn't have separate startup script for freshclam, but the freshclam binary itself should still exist (use 'which freshclam' to find it). That being said, you really should update to newer version, 0.83 is quite old. Is there any trick to installing freshclam ? Or do I just use /usr/ports ? Just use ports (to upgrade ClamAV). Freshclam is part of ClamAV. -- Toomas Aas ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
xemacs: how to suppress a warning
Every time I start xemacs, it reads in a separate buffer: (1) (xintl/warning) System supports locale `' but X Windows does not Indeed, locales is as follows: LANG= LC_CTYPE=ru_RU.CP866 LC_COLLATE=C LC_TIME=C LC_NUMERIC=C LC_MONETARY=C LC_MESSAGES=C LC_ALL= and X Windows does not support ru_RU.CP866. But I do not need this reminder a hundred times in a day. How to prevent this warning? Elisej Babenko ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: solaris
--- Freminlins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 06/09/06, White Hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have tried Open Office. No matter what anyone says, it is just not as full featured as Word 2003. It is not even close. True, but also compare the cost. Not even close... Immaterial. the singularly most important feature is suitability to task. If it is free and it does not work, what good is it? He/she does not want to read tons of manuals and spend hours in a frustrating attempt to get it to run. This is where you are completely wrong. I work for an ISP. I'm not responsible for tech support but I keep my ear to the ground. A VERY large number of callers have problems configuring Outlook Express, for example. No matter what the polls say, the experience is often very different. They may not read the manuals (because they are no longer supplied), they just ring a call centre instead. Yes, the lack of documentation is a shame. Usually it can be obtained for an additonal cost which I suppose is better than nothing. The same lack of documentation plagues every facet of software today. Of course, it has been a boon for the after market book manual publishers. BTW, you have failed to document so called help line assistants who are nothing more than company mouth pieces who have at most a superficial knowledge of the product that they are suppose to be assistant a customer with. I had the experience of talking with a customer support moron who tried to sell me a new router while I attempted to explain the router was fine, but the installation CD was defective. I eventually just sent it back for a replacement. Usually these individuals are barely equipped to handle the job they are given. However, you have made my point. If a user cannot decipher how to configure a simple thing like Outlook Express, and there are programs available that will do it for them, then how are they suppose to be capable of handling a CLI OS like FreeBSD? It boggles the mind -- at least mine. Worse, the configuration of OE is handled by a wizard. It is truly sad when a user cannot configure something when it is simplified down to that level. The average user does not care about configuring firewall, AV or Spyware, etc. Just drop in a copy of ZA with perhaps Sunbelt's Counter Spy and they are on their way. That's one statement contradicting the other. How? Drop in two CDs or download the programs, run them and case closed. Neither one requires any significant configuration. The defaults work just fine for most users. You could eliminate the Counter Spy since ZA has its own proprietary SpyWare program, but I just happen to prefer Counter Spy. BTW, if MS actually does market it 'One Care' program suite, that might even obsolete that entire process. I don't think they will offer it with the OS though. Too much of a chance the government will protest. Personally I believe a company should be allowed to market its product anyway it wants without government intervention; however, that is entirely another story. -- __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OpenOffice2 with german user interface
On Wednesday 06 September 2006 09:17, Martin Schweizer wrote: I installed OOo2 successfully on FreeBSD 6.1 with KDE 3.5.3. The default language for the user interface is english. How I can change the user interface to german? What I've done: - set the environment to DE like described in the handbook (and it works) - installed the rpm package from the OOo site with german language (for linux/intel) Install from ports: # For German make LOCALIZED_LANG=de install clean All make knobs are in the /usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2.0/files/Makefile.knobs I did the above but the user interface is again in english (also not possible to change in the settings). What did I wrong? Hmm... Maybe You will find any help on the official page http://porting.openoffice.org/freebsd/ This is my example of OO instalation: Language: Russian my ~/.login_conf ## me:\ :charset=KOI8-U:\ :lang=ru_RU.KOI8-R: ## cd /usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2.0 make LOCALIZED_LANG=ru -DWITHOUT_MOZILLA -DWITH_CUPS -DWITH_KDE -DWITH_TTF_BYTECODE_ENABLED -DWITHOUT_GNOMEVFS install clean As results - all GUI, help and other OO environment are russian by default. Good Luck! -- Best regards, Simon Phoenix (Phoenix Lab.) --- KeyID: 0x2569D30B Fingerprint: 78FC 5C40 07CC D331 148E CC79 84B8 D514 2569 D30B --- pgpCQWPhRm3gv.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: hp_no_device_found
On Sunday 03 September 2006 06:55, Sean M. wrote: Follow these directions: http://am-productions.biz/docs/hplip.php --- Andriy Babiy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Could you advise me on how to properly configure my printing? I have LaserJet HP-1022, on FreeBSD 6.1 and CUPS-1.2. I installed hplip, hpijs, and foomatic-*. (as root) hp-setup says: ERROR no devices found In CUPS I see: hp_no_device_found dmesg shows: ulpt0: Hewlett-Packard HP LaserJet 1022, rev. 2.00/1.00, addr 2, iclass 7/1 ulpt0: using bi-directional mode I can add printer on /dev/ulpt0, and choose HP-1022 from the list, and even send a test page to the printer, which isn't printed though. There might be something wrong in the configuration, I think. Could you advise me on how to get the printer working? Thank you in advance for your assistance and ideas! See my latest update to PR ports/100413. Thanks, -- Anish Mistry [EMAIL PROTECTED] AM Productions http://am-productions.biz/ pgpq0RV1OpmI5.pgp Description: PGP signature
Anyone using the txp interface driver?
I sent a PR in for a problem in if_txp.c back in July and haven't seen any activity on it. Now I'm not complaining--I know that the developers are pretty busy. I'm just wondering if anyone else sees this problem or if I'm just going crazy. Basically, on a clean install of 6.1-RELEASE with a 3Com 3cR990-TX-97, the card can be brought up and will talk on the network as expected. If the interface is ever brought down and then back up, it fails to talk anymore. I tested it a bit more and found that various combinations of bringing that interface up and down can eventually trigger an interrupt storm, though I have yet to learn how to consistently reproduce this. So my question--does anyone even use these cards, and if so, do you also see this behavior? Erik ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: solaris
On Sep 6, 2006, at 8:41 AM, White Hat wrote: Most of these can be far more easily done on a WinXP machine then anything now available in the *nix family. OS X will do it as easily or more easily for the average person than WinXP. OS X is a unix based OS. Chad --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: solaris
On 06/09/06, White Hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Freminlins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 06/09/06, White Hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have tried Open Office. No matter what anyone says, it is just not as full featured as Word 2003. It is not even close. True, but also compare the cost. Not even close... Immaterial. the singularly most important feature is suitability to task. If it is free and it does not work, what good is it? In what way does it not work? It's enough for many people, so why should they pay more? He/she does not want to read tons of manuals and spend hours in a frustrating attempt to get it to run. This is where you are completely wrong. I work for an ISP. I'm not responsible for tech support but I keep my ear to the ground. A VERY large number of callers have problems configuring Outlook Express, for example. No matter what the polls say, the experience is often very different. They may not read the manuals (because they are no longer supplied), they just ring a call centre instead. Yes, the lack of documentation is a shame. Usually it can be obtained for an additonal cost which I suppose is better than nothing. The same lack of documentation plagues every facet of software today. Of course, it has been a boon for the after market book manual publishers. BTW, you have failed to document so called help line assistants who are nothing more than company mouth pieces who have at most a superficial knowledge of the product that they are suppose to be assistant a customer with. I had the experience of talking with a customer support moron who tried to sell me a new router while I attempted to explain the router was fine, but the installation CD was defective. I eventually just sent it back for a replacement. Usually these individuals are barely equipped to handle the job they are given. However, you have made my point. If a user cannot decipher how to configure a simple thing like Outlook Express, and there are programs available that will do it for them, then how are they suppose to be capable of handling a CLI OS like FreeBSD? It boggles the mind -- at least mine. Worse, the configuration of OE is handled by a wizard. It is truly sad when a user cannot configure something when it is simplified down to that level. So on the one hand you think that for the sake of the morons FreeBSD should made into something other than a CLI OS (which if you put KDE or GNOME on it it already is, btw), and on the other hand you despise the morons who can't even use a wizard? The average user does not care about configuring firewall, AV or Spyware, etc. Just drop in a copy of ZA with perhaps Sunbelt's Counter Spy and they are on their way. That's one statement contradicting the other. How? Drop in two CDs or download the programs, run them and case closed. Neither one requires any significant configuration. The defaults work just fine for most users. You could eliminate the Counter Spy since ZA has its own proprietary SpyWare program, but I just happen to prefer Counter Spy. A decent router does not require any significant configuration either, despite the fact that it should include a firewall. And if you use a router/firewall, you shouldn't need to configure a firewall on your desktop/server either. BTW, if MS actually does market it 'One Care' program suite, that might even obsolete that entire process. I don't think they will offer it with the OS though. Too much of a chance the government will protest. Personally I believe a company should be allowed to market its product anyway it wants without government intervention; however, that is entirely another story. -- That's a good idea. And I should be able to procure products and settle scores anyway I want without government intervention, too. /sarcasm Jeff Rollin -- Proud Linux user since 1998 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
installing 6.1 on Compaq Proliant 5000
Initial message posted on 8/24/2006: Good morning dear FreeBSD enthusiasts. I am attempting to install FreeBSD 6.1 on a Compaq Proliant 5000. The computer is equipped with four Pentium Pro processors clocked at 200 mhz and with a Smart 2/P hardware-RAID array. The BIOS indicates that the first two processors have failed. They are actually okay, but there is something wrong with their socket on the motherboard... Current message: Thank you to the two people who responded to my original message. With their help, I have progressed to the point of specifying the slice into which I want the system installed. There are three primary slices on this computer, plus one extended slice. The three primary slices all end within the 1024 cylinder limit. The two primary slices that do not contain FreeBSD are reserved for the installation of other operating systems. I wish to place the swap slice/partition in the extended slice. The fdisk program supplied with FreeBSD sees all of the extended slice as one slice, and does not seem to be able to see the logical slices within it. Most of my 15 gb. drive is in the extended slice. Does anyone know how to solve this problem? All suggestions are appreciated. Yours truly, Lee Shackelford ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KBTV setup problem
On Wednesday 06 September 2006 17:33, you wrote: snip SOUND - Sound card and tuner sound wiring === SND MODULE LOADED Yes AUDIO CHIP... CMedia CMI8738 Hmm, someone else had the same problem a while ago, also had a CMedia CMI8738. I guess that driver doesn't work well with python's ossaudiodev module that kbtv uses to handle audio. This would be something to be coordinated by the snd_cmi and python maintainers I'm afraid. Maybe snd_cmi doesn't support ossaudio device/mixer at all? If you try the attached test that I sent him (put both files somewhere in the same directory and run 'python test.py' from there), do you get: % python test.py DEBUG: IOError or OSSAudioError occured ? If so, and there's nothing wrong with permissions on dsp and mixer devices, that would confirm my hypothesis (can you let me know if this is the case?) Sorry. Maybe you can try with a separate sound card. At least I know now that the MSP is not the problem. Thanks for the feedback, Dan MIXER CHANNEL FOR TV. btsetup quit chaucer 502 /usr/home/mike # kbtv kbtv: WARNING: KLocale: trying to look up in catalog. Fix the program Traceback (most recent call last): File ./kbtv_application.py, line 136, in ? mainwindow = KbtvPart(player) File /usr/local/share/apps/kbtv/kbtv_part.py, line 118, in __init__ self.extendToolbar() File /usr/local/share/apps/kbtv/kbtv_part.py, line 389, in extendToolbar self.toolbarwidget = KbtvToolbarWidget(self, tb) File /usr/local/share/apps/kbtv/kbtv_toolbar.py, line 48, in __init__ self.mixerchan = bthardware.MIXER_CHANNEL_NAMES.index(mchan) ValueError: list.index(x): x not in list PS: It's possible to set mchan to, say, line in the code instead of uninitialized, but I would think that would only make things better cosmetically (no crash) but it wouldn't make sound work. No, I am trying to use the snd drivers via the built-in sound card in the motherboard. I removed all references to the TV card from the kernel definition file, and let it be loaded dynamically, as suggested in the documentation. chaucer 507 /etc # kldstat Id Refs AddressSize Name 1 37 0xc040 387d9c kernel 21 0xc0788000 3204 splash_bmp.ko 31 0xc078c000 4228 vesa.ko 41 0xc07dc000 328c snd_driver.ko 52 0xc07e 4d08 snd_ad1816.ko 6 29 0xc07e5000 1d9c8sound.ko 72 0xc0803000 4c4c snd_als4000.ko 82 0xc0808000 4fcc snd_cmi.ko snip ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: can i build more than one world on a buildserver?
On 9/6/06, Jonathan Horne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is it possible to have STABLE and RELENG built on a single build server? or further, is it possible to have 5.5 and 6.1 worlds built from the same machine? buildworld and buildkernel targets are fairly sophisticated. The /usr/obj tree corresponds to the source directory, so if you have your 5.5 sources in /src/5.5 and your 6.1 sources in /src/6.1 (or /usr/src/6.1 for that matter) the world(s) would be built in /usr/obj/src/5.5/ and /usr/obj/src/6.1/ repsectively. (Or /usr/obj/usr/src/6.1) If the purpose is to buildworld on one fast machine and then export it to slower machines on th' network, this works admirably well. -- -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: solaris
--- Jeff Rollin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 06/09/06, White Hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Freminlins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 06/09/06, White Hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have tried Open Office. No matter what anyone says, it is just not as full featured as Word 2003. It is not even close. True, but also compare the cost. Not even close... Immaterial. the singularly most important feature is suitability to task. If it is free and it does not work, what good is it? In what way does it not work? It's enough for many people, so why should they pay more? I never said that anyone should pay more. I simply said that it was not suitable for the tasks that both I, and primarily my wife, use it for. Again, the price of an object is secondary to its usefulness. At the very least it has to be compared against it. He/she does not want to read tons of manuals and spend hours in a frustrating attempt to get it to run. This is where you are completely wrong. I work for an ISP. I'm not responsible for tech support but I keep my ear to the ground. A VERY large number of callers have problems configuring Outlook Express, for example. No matter what the polls say, the experience is often very different. They may not read the manuals (because they are no longer supplied), they just ring a call centre instead. Yes, the lack of documentation is a shame. Usually it can be obtained for an additonal cost which I suppose is better than nothing. The same lack of documentation plagues every facet of software today. Of course, it has been a boon for the after market book manual publishers. BTW, you have failed to document so called help line assistants who are nothing more than company mouth pieces who have at most a superficial knowledge of the product that they are suppose to be assistant a customer with. I had the experience of talking with a customer support moron who tried to sell me a new router while I attempted to explain the router was fine, but the installation CD was defective. I eventually just sent it back for a replacement. Usually these individuals are barely equipped to handle the job they are given. However, you have made my point. If a user cannot decipher how to configure a simple thing like Outlook Express, and there are programs available that will do it for them, then how are they suppose to be capable of handling a CLI OS like FreeBSD? It boggles the mind -- at least mine. Worse, the configuration of OE is handled by a wizard. It is truly sad when a user cannot configure something when it is simplified down to that level. So on the one hand you think that for the sake of the morons FreeBSD should made into something other than a CLI OS (which if you put KDE or GNOME on it it already is, btw), and on the other hand you despise the morons who can't even use a wizard? I never inferred that FBSD should evolve into anything. It performs quite nicely as a CLI. Printing is not all that great, and the use of many devices such as web cams can prove to be a chore to install, but that has more to due with the creators of those devices and lack thereof of proper drivers, etc. Even devices that do work are not always fully supported. Again, most likely the device creators are not supporting the device under FreeBSD, or any other OS except win32. Again, it is all about monetary return. I cannot blame them, I like to eat too. Furthermore, I never said I despise anyone, except perhaps pseudo technical help employees. However, even they have to eat. I stated that it was a sad day when someone could not ever configure OE, even when assisted with a wizard. I think it is rather obvious that these individuals would not be the target market for FBSD. The average user does not care about configuring firewall, AV or Spyware, etc. Just drop in a copy of ZA with perhaps Sunbelt's Counter Spy and they are on their way. That's one statement contradicting the other. How? Drop in two CDs or download the programs, run them and case closed. Neither one requires any significant configuration. The defaults work just fine for most users. You could eliminate the Counter Spy since ZA has its own proprietary SpyWare program, but I just happen to prefer Counter Spy. A decent router does not require any significant configuration either, despite the fact that it should include a firewall. And if you use a router/firewall, you shouldn't need to configure a firewall on your desktop/server either. The key word here is 'significant'. That varies by user to user. I believe that the use of an internal firewall might very well be dictated by a users LAN configuration. I only have four units networked together, with only one avenue to the Internet, so perhaps I don't need an extensive
Re: solaris
On 06/09/06, White Hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Immaterial. the singularly most important feature is suitability to task. If it is free and it does not work, what good is it? It depends what you are using it for. You made a comment about occaisonal word processing (pasted below). For such use OpenOffice is perfectly good enough. Yes, the lack of documentation is a shame. In Windows, yes. In FreeBSD I can't see a lack. The same lack of documentation plagues every facet of software today. No it doesn't. FreeBSD is well documented. However, you have made my point. No I haven't. I have contradicted your point. You said A very large majority of users simply want to use their PCs for email, occasional word processing and possible game playing. I am saying that using XP as you suggested is not as easy as you suggest for a very large number of people. If a user cannot decipher how to configure a simple thing like Outlook Express, and there are programs available that will do it for them, then how are they suppose to be capable of handling a CLI OS like FreeBSD? It boggles the mind -- at least mine. Worse, the configuration of OE is handled by a wizard. It is truly sad when a user cannot configure something when it is simplified down to that level. It's not so much the wizards, but third party applications like virus scanners which change those settings which is a part of the problem. But you are not quite comparing apples with apples. Configuring Thunderbird on FreeBSD is near enough identical to doing the same on Windows. I wouldn't however expect a complete computer novice to be able to set up a FreeBSD box without some help. How? Drop in two CDs or download the programs, run them and case closed. Neither one requires any significant configuration. The defaults work just fine for most users. You could eliminate the Counter Spy since ZA has its own proprietary SpyWare program, but I just happen to prefer Counter Spy. Your statement is simply wrong. AV and anti-spyware DO require configuration. And they do require installing, and maybe downloading, and being kept up to date. The defaults certainly don't work all the time in all cases. Have a look here: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/09/06/faulty_ca_update/;. I have heard of broken installations for Norton numerous times. And trying to help these customers is time-consuming for our techies. Frem. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
troubles with 6. booting
Two toubles with my reinstallation of FBSD seem to be, one, that getty can't exec and that acpi: bad read|write from|to port 71|70 I'm back in at single user mode, but but's abut it. (I ran mergermaster, but it was a very short run.) Suggestions? -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public service Unix ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: easy patch management tools
Aaron Bliss wrote: Hi everyone, first let me say that I'm pretty new to bsd, so please forgive the newbie questions; I've been using linux (redhat, suse, centos) for many years, and so learning bsd was a bit of a learning curve, but not bad (I almost never use gui's for administration); I was wondering if there are any packagement tools for freebsd/pcbsd that offer simular functionality to up2date or yum; I take care of installing and updating complete rpm based systems using yum, and have not found a tool simular to yum for freebds (I'm also trying to stay away from pbi's, since they are specific to pcbsd); I've used the pkg_add, pkg_delete, portupgrade tools, but am just looking for an easy way to ensure my entire bsd box is updated; Also, as I understand it, bsd makes use of ports, by using tools such as cvsup, however I have never had much success compiling my own software, as such much prefer to use binary packages, which I understand that the freebsd authors provide; for example, if I wanted to install pine, I would much rather install it by running pkg_add -r pine ; I'm just looking for a simple way to update currently installed binaries, simular to installing new binaries with pkg_add ; thanks very much for your help with this. Aaron portupgrade has an option in /usr/local/etc/pktools.conf which sounds like what you want. # USE_PKGS: array # USE_PKGS_ONLY: array # # These are lists of ports that you prefer to use packages to # upgrade or install. They apply -P/--use-packages and # -PP/--use-packages-only to specific ports, respectively. # # cf. -P/--use-packages and -PP/--use-packages-only of # portupgrade(1) and portinstall(1) # # e.g.: # USE_PKGS = [ # 'perl', # 'ruby', # 'python', # ] # # USE_PKGS_ONLY = [ # 'x11*/XFree86*', # '*openoffice*', # ] USE_PKGS = [ ] USE_PKGS_ONLY = [ ] use portversion -l to see whats not at the latest version, and use portaudit to see which (if any) have security issues. I use USE_PKGS = [ */*, ] on machines what are slow or low on disk space but let portupgrade build from source otherwise as I like to fine tune the compile options from time to time hope this helps. Vince ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
installing ssh after freebsd has been installed?
how do is install ssh once i've installed freebsd 6.1? i used sysinstall. check ssh in the networking section. ok'ed my and exited my way back to the system prompt. as root i typed /usr/sbin/sshd i get from the system: Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host/dsa_key Disabling protocol version 2. Could not load host key sshd: no hostkeys available -- exiting. do i need to reinstall the os, 6.1, in-order for it to setup ssh and create those files, ssh_host_ ...? g. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Origin of hard drive parameters
Basically, I want to know where the BIOS gets the hard drive parameters when the Drive Type is set to AUTO in the BIOS configuration. The best I've been able to come up with from the internet is an IDENTIFY command that purportedly (http://www.linux.com/howtos/Large-Disk-HOWTO-10.shtml) gets its information from the IDE controller. This does not answer my question completely. Are the parameters returned by the controller hard coded into a chip on the board or are they on the platters of the hard drive, or neither? I realize this is a mailing list for FreeBSD. However, I use FreeBSD on a regular basis, enjoy its under-the-hood structure, and have found it difficult to play in a windows operating environment. I have also found the FreeBSD mailing lists to be a source of useful information from times past. These are the reasons I decided to post to the FreeBSD mailing list. If this is not the place to ask such questions, thanks for reading my post and I'll continue my search elsewhere. Ian Graeme Hilt ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: installing ssh after freebsd has been installed?
g wrote: how do is install ssh once i've installed freebsd 6.1? i used sysinstall. check ssh in the networking section. ok'ed my and exited my way back to the system prompt. as root i typed /usr/sbin/sshd i get from the system: Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host/dsa_key Disabling protocol version 2. Could not load host key sshd: no hostkeys available -- exiting. do i need to reinstall the os, 6.1, in-order for it to setup ssh and create those files, ssh_host_ ...? The system startup script for sshd will create any necessary key files if they are missing. Try the following: # killall sshd # /etc/rc.d/sshd start Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: installing ssh after freebsd has been installed?
In response to g [EMAIL PROTECTED]: how do is install ssh once i've installed freebsd 6.1? i used sysinstall. check ssh in the networking section. ok'ed my and exited my way back to the system prompt. as root i typed /usr/sbin/sshd i get from the system: Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host/dsa_key Disabling protocol version 2. Could not load host key sshd: no hostkeys available -- exiting. do i need to reinstall the os, 6.1, in-order for it to setup ssh and create those files, ssh_host_ ...? Use the /etc/rc.d/sshd script to start/stop sshd. It will detect the above condition and take care of it. Assuming you've set up your config files properly, you could also reboot the system. -- Bill Moran Collaborative Fusion Inc. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gnome 2 - Fuzziness
On 5 September 2006, at 10:22, Shane Ambler wrote: One good thing I like is KDE will run the gnome apps but gnome won't run KDE apps. Does for me. So you don't loose out on any choices with KDE. It is in ports at /usr/ports/x11/kde3, but you may want to get hold of the pre-built package and install from that. -- Shane Ambler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Sheeky @ http://Sheeky.Biz ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Any burncd changes
Hi All, I have read through release notes, etc and not seen anything, but I am wondering if there have been any changes in recent FreeBSD releases - especially 6.xx, (but possibly 5.xx), that would affect burncd(8) and how it works - or if it works. I have a machine that was at about 4.11 and burned CDs on it with no problem using burncd. Nearly all of these were boot/install CDs - including the one to install FreeBSD 6.1. But immediately after installing 6.1, I can no longer successfully burn a CD. It seems to go through the motions but then nothing seems to get on the CD. I would just write this off as a CD burner gone bad except I have another box here that doesn't seem to want to burn a CD using burncd now that it has been upgraded to 6.0 and this machine has rarely been used for making CDs. Anyway, it is still probably a failing burner, but I want to make sure I am not overlooking something that would account for this happening just as I did the upgrades - actually fresh clean installs. Thanks for any information you might have, jerryJerry McAllister[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: solaris
--- Freminlins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 06/09/06, White Hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Immaterial. the singularly most important feature is suitability to task. If it is free and it does not work, what good is it? It depends what you are using it for. You made a comment about occaisonal word processing (pasted below). For such use OpenOffice is perfectly good enough. That is a totally unqualified evaluation. While it may be totally suitable for one individual, that in no way infers that it meets the requirements of another. There is no way you can define an end users requirements based solely on your own usage. Yes, the lack of documentation is a shame. In Windows, yes. In FreeBSD I can't see a lack. You are kidding right. I can find vastly more documentation available for a win32 machine than for FBSD. In fact, the lact of documentation is one of the reasons that support groups like this evolved. To my great dismay, I am forced to search for and then download documentation via the web. Even then, that is often dated. Not anyones fault, it is just the way it goes. The same lack of documentation plagues every facet of software today. No it doesn't. FreeBSD is well documented. It is above average, I will agree. However, if it were really perfect then this forum would not exist. However, you have made my point. No I haven't. I have contradicted your point. You said A very large majority of users simply want to use their PCs for email, occasional word processing and possible game playing. I am saying that using XP as you suggested is not as easy as you suggest for a very large number of people. If that were true, MS would not rule 90+ percent of the PCs in use today. Why do you think users in third rate countries pirate MS when they could get FBSD for free? I would not want to insult anyone; however, if you cannot install an MS operating system then perhaps you should consider another hobby. Even my wife's sister can handle that project, and that is a woman who considers a can opener a high tech device. If a user cannot decipher how to configure a simple thing like Outlook Express, and there are programs available that will do it for them, then how are they suppose to be capable of handling a CLI OS like FreeBSD? It boggles the mind -- at least mine. Worse, the configuration of OE is handled by a wizard. It is truly sad when a user cannot configure something when it is simplified down to that level. It's not so much the wizards, but third party applications like virus scanners which change those settings which is a part of the problem. But you are not quite comparing apples with apples. Configuring Thunderbird on FreeBSD is near enough identical to doing the same on Windows. I wouldn't however expect a complete computer novice to be able to set up a FreeBSD box without some help. You have users here with 10+ years experience who run int problems. It is just the nature of the beast. It comes with the territory. How? Drop in two CDs or download the programs, run them and case closed. Neither one requires any significant configuration. The defaults work just fine for most users. You could eliminate the Counter Spy since ZA has its own proprietary SpyWare program, but I just happen to prefer Counter Spy. Your statement is simply wrong. AV and anti-spyware DO require configuration. And they do require installing, and maybe downloading, and being kept up to date. The defaults certainly don't work all the time in all cases. Have a look here: Obviously it required installation. Before you can install, it is again obvious that you must secure the item. One size definitely does not fit all. What is your point? http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/09/06/faulty_ca_update/;. I have heard of broken installations for Norton numerous times. And trying to help these customers is time-consuming for our techies. Norton is pathetic, that I will agree with you on that one. That is why I switched three years ago to ZA. It has never given me a moment of trouble, although the CA AV it uses by default is not RFC 2595 compliant which was causing my network problems. One I corrected it though, everything was back to normal. BTW, 'time consuming for your techies'? Ah gee, like what are they paid for? To stand around and kiss each others butt. I am sick of over paid techies who have no working knowledge of what they are doing. If they find their job to stressful, quit! Please do me one favor, do not CC me. I am continually getting two copies of these. I subscribe to the list. I don't send you duplicate copies and therefore would appreciate the same cutesy. Perhaps my address was already inserted by a previous poster. If so, please do remove it. Thank You! -- White Hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam
Re: Origin of hard drive parameters
On Sep 6, 2006, at 11:40 AM, Hilt, Ian wrote: Basically, I want to know where the BIOS gets the hard drive parameters when the Drive Type is set to AUTO in the BIOS configuration. The best I've been able to come up with from the internet is an IDENTIFY command that purportedly (http://www.linux.com/howtos/Large-Disk-HOWTO-10.shtml) gets its information from the IDE controller. This does not answer my question completely. Are the parameters returned by the controller hard coded into a chip on the board or are they on the platters of the hard drive, or neither? Neither is probably the best answer. The hard disk has an on-board controller which answers the ATA IDENTIFY DEVICE command with the hard drive parameters used by the BIOS, assuming that the BIOS is operating in the legacy C/H/S mode rather than the newer LBA mode which uses absolute block numbers. Note that the answer the drive controller gives will normally be a fabricated geometry which does not have anything to do with the actual geometry of the physical device, in part because drives nowadays keep a variable number of sectors per track rather than using a CAV layout. -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: installing ssh after freebsd has been installed?
Thanks, Bill and Matthew, your suggestions did the trick. g. On Sep 6, 2006, at 2:41 PM, Bill Moran wrote: In response to g [EMAIL PROTECTED]: how do is install ssh once i've installed freebsd 6.1? i used sysinstall. check ssh in the networking section. ok'ed my and exited my way back to the system prompt. as root i typed /usr/sbin/sshd i get from the system: Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host/dsa_key Disabling protocol version 2. Could not load host key sshd: no hostkeys available -- exiting. do i need to reinstall the os, 6.1, in-order for it to setup ssh and create those files, ssh_host_ ...? Use the /etc/rc.d/sshd script to start/stop sshd. It will detect the above condition and take care of it. Assuming you've set up your config files properly, you could also reboot the system. -- Bill Moran Collaborative Fusion Inc. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions- [EMAIL PROTECTED] g. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: solaris
On 06/09/06, White Hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Jeff Rollin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 06/09/06, White Hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Freminlins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 06/09/06, White Hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have tried Open Office. No matter what anyone says, it is just not as full featured as Word 2003. It is not even close. True, but also compare the cost. Not even close... Immaterial. the singularly most important feature is suitability to task. If it is free and it does not work, what good is it? In what way does it not work? It's enough for many people, so why should they pay more? I never said that anyone should pay more. I simply said that it was not suitable for the tasks that both I, and primarily my wife, use it for. No, you said it does not work. It's up there in black and white. Again, the price of an object is secondary to its usefulness. At the very least it has to be compared against it. He/she does not want to read tons of manuals and spend hours in a frustrating attempt to get it to run. This is where you are completely wrong. I work for an ISP. I'm not responsible for tech support but I keep my ear to the ground. A VERY large number of callers have problems configuring Outlook Express, for example. No matter what the polls say, the experience is often very different. They may not read the manuals (because they are no longer supplied), they just ring a call centre instead. Yes, the lack of documentation is a shame. Usually it can be obtained for an additonal cost which I suppose is better than nothing. The same lack of documentation plagues every facet of software today. Of course, it has been a boon for the after market book manual publishers. BTW, you have failed to document so called help line assistants who are nothing more than company mouth pieces who have at most a superficial knowledge of the product that they are suppose to be assistant a customer with. I had the experience of talking with a customer support moron who tried to sell me a new router while I attempted to explain the router was fine, but the installation CD was defective. I eventually just sent it back for a replacement. Usually these individuals are barely equipped to handle the job they are given. However, you have made my point. If a user cannot decipher how to configure a simple thing like Outlook Express, and there are programs available that will do it for them, then how are they suppose to be capable of handling a CLI OS like FreeBSD? It boggles the mind -- at least mine. Worse, the configuration of OE is handled by a wizard. It is truly sad when a user cannot configure something when it is simplified down to that level. So on the one hand you think that for the sake of the morons FreeBSD should made into something other than a CLI OS (which if you put KDE or GNOME on it it already is, btw), and on the other hand you despise the morons who can't even use a wizard? I never inferred that FBSD should evolve into anything. It performs quite nicely as a CLI. It also performs quite nicely as a GUI, in the opinion of many. Printing is not all that great, and the use of many devices such as web cams can prove to be a chore to install, but that has more to due with the creators of those devices and lack thereof of proper drivers, etc. Even devices that do work are not always fully supported. Again, most likely the device creators are not supporting the device under FreeBSD, or any other OS except win32. Again, it is all about monetary return. I cannot blame them, I like to eat too. Furthermore, I never said I despise anyone, except perhaps pseudo technical help employees. However, even they have to eat. I stated that it was a sad day when someone could not ever configure OE, even when assisted with a wizard. I think it is rather obvious that these individuals would not be the target market for FBSD. The average user does not care about configuring firewall, AV or Spyware, etc. Just drop in a copy of ZA with perhaps Sunbelt's Counter Spy and they are on their way. That's one statement contradicting the other. How? Drop in two CDs or download the programs, run them and case closed. Neither one requires any significant configuration. The defaults work just fine for most users. You could eliminate the Counter Spy since ZA has its own proprietary SpyWare program, but I just happen to prefer Counter Spy. A decent router does not require any significant configuration either, despite the fact that it should include a firewall. And if you use a router/firewall, you shouldn't need to configure a firewall on your desktop/server either. The key word here is 'significant'. That varies by user to user. I believe that the use of an internal
Xorg install
i'm trying to install xorg. using chapter 5, i installed Xorg, but it seems to break something. with the default install of 6.1, x window system starts. when i follow the instructions, in chapter 5, i get this message when i tried to start it (startx). This is a pre-release version of the X server from The X.Org Foundation. It is not supported in any way. Bugs may be filed in the bugzilla at http://bugs.freedesktop.org/. Select the xorg product for bugs you find in this release. Before reporting bugs in pre-release versions please check the latest version in the X.Org Foundation CVS repository. See http://wiki.x.org/wiki/CvsPage for CVS access instructions. X Window System Version 6.8.99.903 (6.9.0 RC 3) Release Date: 03 December 2005 + cvs X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.8.99.903 Build Operating System: FreeBSD 6.1 i386 [ELF] Current Operating System: FreeBSD beverly.Belkin 6.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE #0 : Sun May 7 04:42:56 UTC 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/ usr/src/sys/S MP i386 Build Date: 16 March 2006 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.X.Org to make sure that you have the latest version. Module Loader present Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Wed Sep 6 01:56:19 2006 (==) Using config file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf Data incomplete in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf Undefined Monitor Monitor0 referenced by Screen Screen0. (EE) Problem parsing the config file (EE) Error parsing the config file Fatal server error: no screens found Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support at http://wiki.X.Org for help. Please also check the log file at /var/log/Xorg.0.log for additional information. ** my goal is to run to window maker, with gnustep as a development environment. ** below is the xorg.conf.new file Section ServerLayout Identifier X.org Configured Screen 0 Screen0 0 0 InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard EndSection Section Files RgbPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb ModulePath /usr/X11R6/lib/modules FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/ FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/ FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/ FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/ FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/ FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/ EndSection Section Module Load dbe Load dri Load extmod Load glx Load record Load xtrap Load freetype Load type1 EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Keyboard0 Driver kbd EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse0 Driver mouse Option Protocol auto Option Device /dev/sysmouse Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 6 7 EndSection Section Monitor Identifier PrecisionColor VendorName Radius ModelNameSony HorizSync 50-150 VertRefresh 30-85 EndSection Section Device ### Available Driver options are:- ### Values: i: integer, f: float, bool: True/False, ### string: String, freq: f Hz/kHz/MHz ### [arg]: arg optional #Option NoAccel # [bool] #Option SWcursor # [bool] #Option ColorKey # i #Option CacheLines# i #Option Dac6Bit # [bool] #Option DRI # [bool] #Option NoDDC # [bool] #Option ShowCache # [bool] #Option XvMCSurfaces # i #Option PageFlip # [bool] Identifier Card0 Driver i810 VendorName Intel Corporation BoardName 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller BusID PCI:0:2:0 EndSection Section Screen Identifier Screen0 Device Card0 MonitorMonitor0 SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 1 EndSubSection SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 4 EndSubSection SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 8 EndSubSection SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 15 EndSubSection SubSection
Re: solaris
On 06/09/06, White Hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Freminlins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 06/09/06, White Hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Immaterial. the singularly most important feature is suitability to task. If it is free and it does not work, what good is it? It depends what you are using it for. You made a comment about occaisonal word processing (pasted below). For such use OpenOffice is perfectly good enough. That is a totally unqualified evaluation. While it may be totally suitable for one individual, that in no way infers that it meets the requirements of another. There is no way you can define an end users requirements based solely on your own usage. It's not an unqualified evaluation. If OpenOffice were not good enough for even occasional word processing, then certainly no-one would be using it on a regular basis. Yes, the lack of documentation is a shame. In Windows, yes. In FreeBSD I can't see a lack. You are kidding right. I can find vastly more documentation available for a win32 machine than for FBSD. In fact, the lact of documentation is one of the reasons that support groups like this evolved. To my great dismay, I am forced to search for and then download documentation via the web. Even then, that is often dated. Not anyones fault, it is just the way it goes. YOU are kidding, right? More does not mean better. If the FreeBSD documentation is fit for purpose, then there is little point in reiterating it all over the net. If the Windows documentation were fit for purpose, (and the only official documentation I can think of is the Windows Help Files, which are rightly derided all the net over as The Windows NoHelp files and suchlike - in other words, fit for purpose it definitely is not), there would be no need for support lines to PC companies and such - and yet the MS Knowledgebase is gigantic. Not only that, but those helplines are often clueless. The same lack of documentation plagues every facet of software today. No it doesn't. FreeBSD is well documented. It is above average, I will agree. However, if it were really perfect then this forum would not exist. However, you have made my point. No I haven't. I have contradicted your point. You said A very large majority of users simply want to use their PCs for email, occasional word processing and possible game playing. I am saying that using XP as you suggested is not as easy as you suggest for a very large number of people. If that were true, MS would not rule 90+ percent of the PCs in use today. MS rules 90 percent of PCs in use today because (a) it is preloaded on 90% of PCs in use today, (b) PC companies are tied to Microsoft for many reasons, hardly any of which have to do with the quality of its OS products; (c) because of (a) and (b), more companies release software for Windows than any other OS. Why do you think users in third rate countries pirate MS when they could get FBSD for free? Because (a) they don't know about alternatives, and/or (b) the software they want (e.g. games) is not available for those other OSes. And if you really think that no-one in the West pirates Windows software, then you are not living on the same planet as the rest of us. I would not want to insult anyone; ...it may be a little late for that... however, if you cannot install an MS operating system then perhaps you should consider another hobby. Even my wife's sister can handle that project, and that is a woman who considers a can opener a high tech device. Installing an MS operating system on hardware for which the OS has inbuilt drivers is easy. Changing the configuration, even to the point of loading drivers and software which the OS does not include, can be considerably harder and in some cases (such as adding it to th disk after the other OS) is a job best suited to computer engineers, UNLIKE doing that with other OSes. If a user cannot decipher how to configure a simple thing like Outlook Express, and there are programs available that will do it for them, then how are they suppose to be capable of handling a CLI OS like FreeBSD? Once again, FreeBSD is not a CLI OS. It boggles the mind -- at least mine. Worse, the configuration of OE is handled by a wizard. It is truly sad when a user cannot configure something when it is simplified down to that level. It's not so much the wizards, but third party applications like virus scanners which change those settings which is a part of the problem. But you are not quite comparing apples with apples. Configuring Thunderbird on FreeBSD is near enough identical to doing the same on Windows. I wouldn't however expect a complete computer novice to be able to set up a FreeBSD box without some help. I wouldn't expect a complete novice to be able to set up just any Windows box either. Even one that doesn't think a can opener is complicated. You have users here with 10+ years experience who run int
Re: solaris
On Sun, 3 Sep 2006, dick hoogendijk wrote: I have a 3-part disk: (a) XP for games (b) FreeBSD-6.1 (my main OS) (c) FreeBSD-6.1 (a backup) I want to replace the third partition with solaris 10, mainly for studying this OS. I burned the DVD. Will it install solaris on this third partition without trouble? Will I be able to continue to use the FreeBSD bootloader or do I need to isntall sol's grub? The documentation on SUN and solaris is huge. Many many pdf files.. Are there better ways then these pdf's? Good books on solaris 10? Starting points on the net? I ask here because I know lot of you guys here have also installed solaris 10 (at least I remember seeing it here) Hope to get some advice and reading points. I have years of experience with linux and FreeBSD and like to explore new (OS) challences. Just out of interest: Did you install Solaris in the meantime? ;-) Regards, Uli. -- dick -- http://nagual.nl/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 6.1 ++ The Power to Serve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Peter Ulrich Kruppa - Wuppertal - Germany * * ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: solaris
P.U.Kruppa [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, 3 Sep 2006, dick hoogendijk wrote: I have a 3-part disk: (a) XP for games (b) FreeBSD-6.1 (my main OS) (c) FreeBSD-6.1 (a backup) I want to replace the third partition with solaris 10, mainly for studying this OS. I burned the DVD. Will it install solaris on this third partition without trouble? Will I be able to continue to use the FreeBSD bootloader or do I need to isntall sol's grub? The documentation on SUN and solaris is huge. Many many pdf files.. Are there better ways then these pdf's? Good books on solaris 10? Starting points on the net? I ask here because I know lot of you guys here have also installed solaris 10 (at least I remember seeing it here) Hope to get some advice and reading points. I have years of experience with linux and FreeBSD and like to explore new (OS) challences. Just out of interest: Did you install Solaris in the meantime? ;-) To me, device drivers really troubled me a lot. Windows for games is okay. But Solaris doesn't work well either in my laptop or my desktop. FreeBSD is only happy with my laptop, which now I work on. So I install Linux in my desktop, which is my main OS. LVM2 on top of raid works perfectly. And I like the portage system in Gentoo, which resembles FreeBSD's ports system. Sorry for this OT, but I really think Solaris is not ready yet for my crapy hardware. Xiao-Yong -- ,,, (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: solaris
--- Jeff Rollin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 06/09/06, White Hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Jeff Rollin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 06/09/06, White Hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Freminlins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 06/09/06, White Hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Immaterial. the singularly most important feature is suitability to task. If it is free and it does not work, what good is it? In what way does it not work? It's enough for many people, so why should they pay more? I never said that anyone should pay more. I simply said that it was not suitable for the tasks that both I, and primarily my wife, use it for. No, you said it does not work. It's up there in black and white. Again, the price The inference was if the object is not suitable for a designated task, then it is not a viable option. Hence, it doesn't work. I had thought that was obvious. The inference was certainly there. I did not spell it out since this is a forum and I had no inclination to turn this into a thesis. However, it is also obvious that price is your determining factor. Nothing wrong with that as long as it is declared up front. [...] That's a good idea. And I should be able to procure products and settle scores anyway I want without government intervention, too. /sarcasm Way out of line. Not out of line. Thee are many, many examples of companies already getting away with breaking the few rules that are there: why should those rules be relaxed so that they get away with even MORE at the expense of the buyer? No where did I even suggest the idea of retribution. Nor did I, as I noted, that was sarcasm. Labeling it as sarcasm does not change the fact that it was exactly what you meant. If I wear a T-shirt that has emblazoned on it: touch me an I will kill you, and someone actually touched me and I make good on the treat, I cannot claim that they were forewarned. By the way, what bothers you so much regarding free enterprise, with the possible exception that you are not experiencing any monetary rewards from it? I personally I detest what many corporations proceed to do. However, it is their money and they have that right. If you don't like their product, either ignore it or make a better one. Bitching is for losers. -- White Hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How to fix init - /etc/ttys?
Anybody know why getty is having such a bear of a time finding a tty? I Can't even get in. I'm at 6.1 and logged in single-usr and have /usr mounted on /dev. Because X expects to find /usr/lib/Y in /usr I csn't use anything very complex; can't poke around I very rarely touch /etc/ttys; so why is 6.1 having this tantrum?? I'm lost gary -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public service Unix ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Origin of hard drive parameters
-Original Message- From: Chuck Swiger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 2:55 PM To: Hilt, Ian Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Origin of hard drive parameters On Sep 6, 2006, at 11:40 AM, Hilt, Ian wrote: Basically, I want to know where the BIOS gets the hard drive parameters when the Drive Type is set to AUTO in the BIOS configuration. The best I've been able to come up with from the internet is an IDENTIFY command that purportedly (http://www.linux.com/howtos/Large-Disk-HOWTO-10.shtml) gets its information from the IDE controller. This does not answer my question completely. Are the parameters returned by the controller hard coded into a chip on the board or are they on the platters of the hard drive, or neither? Neither is probably the best answer. The hard disk has an on-board controller which answers the ATA IDENTIFY DEVICE command with the hard drive parameters used by the BIOS, assuming that the BIOS is operating in the legacy C/H/S mode rather than the newer LBA mode which uses absolute block numbers. Ok. Maybe the better question is: in either case, C/H/S or LBA mode, where are these parameters stored? Note that the answer the drive controller gives will normally be a fabricated geometry which does not have anything to do with the actual geometry of the physical device, in part because drives nowadays keep a variable number of sectors per track rather than using a CAV layout. If CAV == Constant Angular Velocity, I thought this layout stored a variable number of sectors per track, as opposed to CLV which stores data at a constant density over the platters. Ian Graeme Hilt ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: solaris
On 06/09/06, White Hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Jeff Rollin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 06/09/06, White Hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Jeff Rollin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 06/09/06, White Hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Freminlins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 06/09/06, White Hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Immaterial. the singularly most important feature is suitability to task. If it is free and it does not work, what good is it? In what way does it not work? It's enough for many people, so why should they pay more? I never said that anyone should pay more. I simply said that it was not suitable for the tasks that both I, and primarily my wife, use it for. No, you said it does not work. It's up there in black and white. Again, the price The inference was if the object is not suitable for a designated task, then it is not a viable option. Hence, it doesn't work. I had thought that was obvious. The inference was certainly there. I did not spell it out since this is a forum and I had no inclination to turn this into a thesis. However, it is also obvious that price is your determining factor. Nothing wrong with that as long as it is declared up front. There was no such inference. [...] That's a good idea. And I should be able to procure products and settle scores anyway I want without government intervention, too. /sarcasm Way out of line. Not out of line. Thee are many, many examples of companies already getting away with breaking the few rules that are there: why should those rules be relaxed so that they get away with even MORE at the expense of the buyer? No where did I even suggest the idea of retribution. Nor did I, as I noted, that was sarcasm. Labeling it as sarcasm does not change the fact that it was exactly what you meant. I think I'm much more qualified than you to decide what I meant. If I wear a T-shirt that has emblazoned on it: touch me an I will kill you, and someone actually touched me and I make good on the treat, I cannot claim that they were forewarned. By the way, what bothers you so much regarding free enterprise, with the possible exception that you are not experiencing any monetary rewards from it? Free enterprise does not bother me. Lies and illegal practices do. I personally I detest what many corporations proceed to do. However, it is their money and they have that right. If you don't like their product, either ignore it or make a better one. They do not have the right to break the law Bitching is for losers Funny you should say that, given your contributions to this thread. Jeff Rollin -- Proud Linux user since 1998 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Origin of hard drive parameters
On Sep 6, 2006, at 1:06 PM, Hilt, Ian wrote: The hard disk has an on-board controller which answers the ATA IDENTIFY DEVICE command with the hard drive parameters used by the BIOS, assuming that the BIOS is operating in the legacy C/H/S mode rather than the newer LBA mode which uses absolute block numbers. Ok. Maybe the better question is: in either case, C/H/S or LBA mode, where are these parameters stored? At one time, probably on an EEPROM within the hard drive; nowadays, probably nowhere-- the drive controller computes some numbers dynamically depending on whether the C/H/S versus LBA mode jumper is set, or whether the BIOS makes the extended Int13H call to do LBA mode (or whatever the exact mechanism there is) Note that the answer the drive controller gives will normally be a fabricated geometry which does not have anything to do with the actual geometry of the physical device, in part because drives nowadays keep a variable number of sectors per track rather than using a CAV layout. If CAV == Constant Angular Velocity, I thought this layout stored a variable number of sectors per track, as opposed to CLV which stores data at a constant density over the platters. CAV == Constant Angular Velocity. It's the format used by data CD's which gives less storage space but better random access-- tracks near the center have the same # of sectors as tracks on the outside, which means the outer tracks are spread out more; versus CLV, which stores more data on the outer tracks by slowing down the rotational speed to keep a constant density under the heads. -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Origin of hard drive parameters
-Original Message- From: Chuck Swiger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 4:21 PM To: Hilt, Ian Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Origin of hard drive parameters On Sep 6, 2006, at 1:06 PM, Hilt, Ian wrote: The hard disk has an on-board controller which answers the ATA IDENTIFY DEVICE command with the hard drive parameters used by the BIOS, assuming that the BIOS is operating in the legacy C/H/S mode rather than the newer LBA mode which uses absolute block numbers. Ok. Maybe the better question is: in either case, C/H/S or LBA mode, where are these parameters stored? At one time, probably on an EEPROM within the hard drive; nowadays, probably nowhere-- the drive controller computes some numbers dynamically depending on whether the C/H/S versus LBA mode jumper is set, or whether the BIOS makes the extended Int13H call to do LBA mode (or whatever the exact mechanism there is) Note that the answer the drive controller gives will normally be a fabricated geometry which does not have anything to do with the actual geometry of the physical device, in part because drives nowadays keep a variable number of sectors per track rather than using a CAV layout. If CAV == Constant Angular Velocity, I thought this layout stored a variable number of sectors per track, as opposed to CLV which stores data at a constant density over the platters. CAV == Constant Angular Velocity. It's the format used by data CD's which gives less storage space but better random access-- tracks near the center have the same # of sectors as tracks on the outside, which means the outer tracks are spread out more; versus CLV, which stores more data on the outer tracks by slowing down the rotational speed to keep a constant density under the heads. -- -Chuck Thanks for the information, Chuck. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to fix init - /etc/ttys?
Gary Kline wrote: Anybody know why getty is having such a bear of a time finding a tty? I Can't even get in. I'm at 6.1 and logged in single-usr and have /usr mounted on /dev. Because X expects to find /usr/lib/Y in /usr I csn't use anything very complex; can't poke around I very rarely touch /etc/ttys; so why is 6.1 having this tantrum?? I'm lost Because getty needs access to the /dev/tty* devices in order to function? /dev is a truly bizarre choice of mountpoint. Why not use /mnt, which is there solely to provide a convenient place to mount stuff? Or -- and this is a radical idea, I know -- why not mount the /usr filesystem on /usr? Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
need a restricted shell
I am looking for a shell that will allow Subversion to be run over ssh but not allow interactive login or if it allows interactive login, will only allow Subversion commands to be run... Any ideas on how to accomplish this? I have been looking at various shell lists in ports but nothing popped out as obvious to me Thanks Chad --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Getting GELI Keys from Floppy
Hello, i want to encrypt my HDD's with GELI (not the root-fs, though). I want to do the encryption without password, just with a key. The key should be stored in a floppy disk, and the read should be read automatically on boot, from the floppy. There is a problem here, because GELI initializes _before_ mounting the disks from /etc/fstab (for obvious reasons, of course). So GELI is not able to get the keys from the floppy and fails. So, any hints how I could get the floppy mounted _before_ GELI tries to initialize? Thanks in advance, Frank ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: solaris
On 06 Sep P.U.Kruppa wrote: On Sun, 3 Sep 2006, dick hoogendijk wrote: I want to replace the third partition with solaris 10, mainly for studying this OS. Hope to get some advice and reading points. I have years of experience with linux and FreeBSD and like to explore new (OS) challences. Just out of interest: Did you install Solaris in the meantime? ;-) I did. After a good deal of reading. I wanted it to install on the first disk. I had no spare one and as I understood it should be possible without harm. The solaris fdisk partition had to be taken seriously. It needed a special treatement to not interfere with existing partitions. The ranish PM took care of the solaris disk geometry problems ;-) The installation on the third fdisk partition went very well, I must say. The system reckognised almost every peace of hardware and configured it correctly. I had to get third party network card driver support, but that was easy too. First impressions are very good. But the learning curve starts now. For now I'm glad to be back in my fbsd OS. It feels so very known ;-) And that of course is always a good feeling. But that will not stop me from exploring the unknown solaris system ;-) -- dick -- http://nagual.nl/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 6.1 +++ The Power to Serve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: need a restricted shell
On 6 September 2006, at 15:55, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: I am looking for a shell that will allow Subversion to be run over ssh but not allow interactive login or if it allows interactive login, will only allow Subversion commands to be run... Any ideas on how to accomplish this? I don't know about FBSD, but check if rssh is in the ports (I can't atm): [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ pacman -Ss scp current/rssh 2.3.2-1 A restricted shell for use with OpenSSH, allowing only scp and/ or sftp I bet this would do what you're saying. I have been looking at various shell lists in ports but nothing popped out as obvious to me Thanks Chad --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Various package/ports problems
Gerard Seibert wrote: Chris Whitehouse wrote: Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote: So now i can find out what version each port is, but that doesnt help me know whether these are outdated, or to update them. For that im still stuck on the Ruby core dump problem. I did reinstall portupgrade, ruby18, and the ruby-bdb thing, but sadly i still get the same abort trap/core dump thing ive reported all along. Is there any other way i can attack this last issue? Thanks. Jen Have you tried portmanager (sysutils/portmanager)? The -s option just reports on what's required to upgrade. Assuming you have a freshly updated ports tree, you could also just run this little command: /usr/sbin/pkg_version -vIL= It will display what needs to be updated very quickly. I think that 'portmanager' would be the best way to update the ports however. Very useful and quick, but man pkg_version says the -I interrogates the INDEX file which in this case (I've lost previous posts) was corrupted or out of sync with the ports tree? In this case portmanager -s might give more accurate results even if it is a bit slow. Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
rc.firewall rule for passive FTP
what is a good rule to allow passive FTP to work.
the following rules still blocks passive FTP.
#/** Allow setup of FTP PASSIVE **/
${fwcmd} add allow tcp from any to ${ip} 49152-65534 setup
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Re: Origin of hard drive parameters
From: Chuck Swiger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sep 6, 2006, at 1:06 PM, Hilt, Ian wrote:
The hard disk has an on-board controller which answers the ATA
IDENTIFY DEVICE command with the hard drive parameters used by the
BIOS, assuming that the BIOS is operating in the legacy C/H/S mode
rather than the newer LBA mode which uses absolute block numbers.
Ok. Maybe the better question is: in either case, C/H/S or LBA mode,
where are these parameters stored?
At one time, probably on an EEPROM within the hard drive; nowadays,
probably nowhere-- the drive controller computes some numbers
dynamically depending on whether the C/H/S versus LBA mode jumper is
set, or whether the BIOS makes the extended Int13H call to do LBA
mode (or whatever the exact mechanism there is)
They flat out are not stored anywhere. There is a standard algorithm
published by the VESA people, I believe, that provides the data for
all SCSI drives and modern IDE/ATA/SATA drives. Inside the drives
only one number is normally of interest to the computer operating
system, the total number of available blocks on the drive per its
current formatting. Spare blocks and cylinders, variable numbers of
blocks per track, and various oddball formattings that at LEAST go
back as far as the old 20 meg Miniscribe SCSI drives make any CHS
that a drive could deliver meaningless. (That old Miniscribe had
spares at the end of a cylinder that were to be applied anywhere
within the cylinder. Thus there was no constant blocks per track
within a cylinder. It had spare tracks scattered around the
drive so that you could recover if a whole track was scratched. And
so forth. I struggled for some (wasted) time trying to find an optimal
CHS geometry I could feed the operating system (Amiga at the time) to
speed up disk accesses. That old thing was impervious to optimization.
Ever since I've strongly advised people to ignore CHS entirely unless
they have a real live ESDI or ST-506 drive in their possession. I
suppose it might matter for IDE drives nearly that old. But anything
likely to be alive today has CHS as a pure fiction that is not all
that particularly useful even at the filesystem optimization levels.)
{^_^} Joanne
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Re: How to fix init - /etc/ttys?
On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 09:48:04PM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: Gary Kline wrote: Anybody know why getty is having such a bear of a time finding a tty? I Can't even get in. I'm at 6.1 and logged in single-usr and have /usr mounted on /dev. Because X expects to find /usr/lib/Y in /usr I csn't use anything very complex; can't poke around I very rarely touch /etc/ttys; so why is 6.1 having this tantrum?? I'm lost Because getty needs access to the /dev/tty* devices in order to function? /dev is a truly bizarre choice of mountpoint. Why not use /mnt, which is there solely to provide a convenient place to mount stuff? Or -- and this is a radical idea, I know -- why not mount the /usr filesystem on /usr? WEll, it turns out that my old /etc/fstab was overwritten by my backup, and I had added a /var slice this time. (The drive is only a couple years old (200G), the box is 61 months old (was homebrew) and I cheaped out with a 40G). Yes, I did wind up fsck'ing everything and mounting /usr on /usr:: then major progress, thank you. Remaining mystery is those acpi: write failure on 0x70 or whatever. I googled around, and now that I have *grep-powers* I've grep'd in /boot and have some clues. If you have spot-on advise, Matthew, please do share. SOAPBOX Anyway, this is to the entire list: A week or so ago I loaned my 5.3 set to a non-geek friend who had occasionally been using RH. He brought the box of discs back and said it was too hard to install; that RH had a much easier installation process. True. So I gave him my old Ubuntu boot disk. He's happy with it. ---I realize how much smaller the FBSD hacker base is Still, having a GUI-ish intro makes sense in gaining new converts. I'm still here because this Berkeley distro really *is* solid. One fatal trap in 11 years I can handle. SOAPBOX gary -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public service Unix ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: can i build more than one world on a buildserver?
On Wednesday 06 September 2006 13:16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/6/06, Jonathan Horne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is it possible to have STABLE and RELENG built on a single build server? or further, is it possible to have 5.5 and 6.1 worlds built from the same machine? buildworld and buildkernel targets are fairly sophisticated. The /usr/obj tree corresponds to the source directory, so if you have your 5.5 sources in /src/5.5 and your 6.1 sources in /src/6.1 (or /usr/src/6.1 for that matter) the world(s) would be built in /usr/obj/src/5.5/ and /usr/obj/src/6.1/ repsectively. (Or /usr/obj/usr/src/6.1) If the purpose is to buildworld on one fast machine and then export it to slower machines on th' network, this works admirably well. thank you!! this was the exact hint i was hoping for! cheers, jonathan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A question about programming RS-232
I am by no means the worlds best serial programmer, but recently I have done
some work on this subject and I noticed one thing in the code sample above
that should be avoided. However, I'll give you what I saw in-line:
#include stdio.h
#include termios.h
#include unistd.h
#include fcntl.h
int main(void) {
int t = 0, num = 10, fd, iOut; char *ch;
struct termios my_termios;
ch = (char *)malloc(6);
memset(ch, 250, 6);
fd = open(/dev/cuad0, O_RDWR | O_NONBLOCK);
Ok, great, we've opened our serial device. Unless you need this to be a
controlling terminal, you should open with open( /dev/cuad0, O_RDWR |
O_NONBLOCK | O_NOCTTY ); Check with the open man page to make sure I've
given you the correct constant for opening as a non-controlling terminal.
printf(Opened com port\n);
if(fd 0) return 0;
// tcflush(fd, TCIFLUSH);
my_termios.c_cflag = CS8 | CLOCAL;
if(cfsetspeed(my_termios, B9600) 0) return 0;
if(tcsetattr(fd, TCSANOW, my_termios) 0) return 0;
You've set the attributes you want to use in the structure you defined,
my_termios. However, you should call tcgetattr() before changing what you
want to change (and make sure you always turn things on as you have done
above with bitwise or). So, your code should look something like,
// assume an open file descriptor named fd
struct termios my_termios;
if( tcgetattr( fd, my_termios ) 0 ) {
fprintf( stderr, error in getting termios properties\n );
return AN_ERROR;
}
// turn on what you want
my_termios.c_cflag = CS8 | CLOCAL;
if( tcsetattr( fd, my_termios ) 0 } {
fprintf( stderr, error in setting new properties to serial port\n );
return AN_ERROR;
}
I don't know if this will solve your problems but I do know I read that you
should always get the current settings because the serial driver may use
certain bits and you don't want to turn them off. Also, if you're going to
return the port settings to the state before you took hold of it, make two
termios structures and stuff the original settings away to be restored upon
exit or close of the port.
Lastly, here is a link to a serial programming guide that I found quite
helpful. The info is probably dated to some degree, but it is non the less
useful.
http://www.easysw.com/~mike/serial/serial.html
Andy
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OpenOffice port vs Firefox
Having gotten a sufficiently-recent version of glib, I am now several hours into the build of OpenOffice, and I've discovered that Firefox has quit working. When I try to start it: GThread-ERROR **: file gthread-posix.c: line 187 (): error 'Invalid argument' during 'pthread_mutex_trylock' aborting... Abort trap (core dumped) Of course, since it won't start up, I can't consult Help/About to find out the version :( but based on /var/db/pkg I think it is firefox-1.5.0.1_1,1 I suppose Firefox and OpenOffice are tripping over each other WRT the version of some shared library, but I thought the whole point of having version numbers on shared libs was to prevent that sort of problem. Does anyone have Firefox and OpenOffice coexisting on a single system? How is it accomplished? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OpenOffice port vs Firefox
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Perry Hutchison) wrote: Having gotten a sufficiently-recent version of glib, I am now several hours into the build of OpenOffice, and I've discovered that Firefox has quit working. When I try to start it: GThread-ERROR **: file gthread-posix.c: line 187 (): error 'Invalid argument' during 'pthread_mutex_trylock' aborting... Abort trap (core dumped) Of course, since it won't start up, I can't consult Help/About to find out the version :( but based on /var/db/pkg I think it is firefox-1.5.0.1_1,1 I suppose Firefox and OpenOffice are tripping over each other WRT the version of some shared library, but I thought the whole point of having version numbers on shared libs was to prevent that sort of problem. Does anyone have Firefox and OpenOffice coexisting on a single system? How is it accomplished? Yes. I have three computers (home, work, laptop). All three of them have both Firefox and OOo installed. I would suspect that you've hit some obscure version issue. I make it a point to try to keep all three of these machines updated, so I'm portupgrading them on a regular basis. I seem to remember one point at which I rebuilt OOo and had to rebuild firefox to get it working, but I don't remember for sure. -- Bill Moran Someting happened or something. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OpenOffice port vs Firefox
On Wed, 6 Sep 06 17:37:36 PDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Perry Hutchison) wrote: Having gotten a sufficiently-recent version of glib, I am now several hours into the build of OpenOffice, and I've discovered that Firefox has quit working. When I try to start it: GThread-ERROR **: file gthread-posix.c: line 187 (): error 'Invalid argument' during 'pthread_mutex_trylock' aborting... Abort trap (core dumped) Of course, since it won't start up, I can't consult Help/About to find out the version :( but based on /var/db/pkg I think it is firefox-1.5.0.1_1,1 I suppose Firefox and OpenOffice are tripping over each other WRT the version of some shared library, but I thought the whole point of having version numbers on shared libs was to prevent that sort of problem. Does anyone have Firefox and OpenOffice coexisting on a single system? How is it accomplished? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Perry, It isn't easy is it. I am not sure why FireFox quit working like that. When I created the new glib for my box I was still running mozilla 5.0 and didn't have any trouble with it. I wonder if it has something to do with gtk+. I am running FireFox 1.5.0.6 that I downloaded the tarball and compiled. Let me know if you figure this out. -- Michael Hughes Log Home living is the best [EMAIL PROTECTED] Temperatures: Outside: 65.4 House: 72.1 Computer room: 71.1 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xorg install
On 9/6/06, g [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'm trying to install xorg. using chapter 5, i installed Xorg, but it seems to break something. with the default install of 6.1, x window system starts. when i follow the instructions, in chapter 5, i get this message when i tried to start it (startx). This is a pre-release version of the X server from The X.Org Foundation. It is not supported in any way. Bugs may be filed in the bugzilla at http://bugs.freedesktop.org/. Select the xorg product for bugs you find in this release. Before reporting bugs in pre-release versions please check the latest version in the X.Org Foundation CVS repository. See http://wiki.x.org/wiki/CvsPage for CVS access instructions. X Window System Version 6.8.99.903 (6.9.0 RC 3) Release Date: 03 December 2005 + cvs X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.8.99.903 Build Operating System: FreeBSD 6.1 i386 [ELF] Current Operating System: FreeBSD beverly.Belkin 6.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE #0 : Sun May 7 04:42:56 UTC 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/ usr/src/sys/S MP i386 Build Date: 16 March 2006 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.X.Org to make sure that you have the latest version. Module Loader present Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Wed Sep 6 01:56:19 2006 (==) Using config file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf Data incomplete in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf Undefined Monitor Monitor0 referenced by Screen Screen0. (EE) Problem parsing the config file (EE) Error parsing the config file Fatal server error: no screens found Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support at http://wiki.X.Org for help. Please also check the log file at /var/log/Xorg.0.log for additional information. ** my goal is to run to window maker, with gnustep as a development environment. ** below is the xorg.conf.new file Section ServerLayout Identifier X.org Configured Screen 0 Screen0 0 0 InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard EndSection Section Files RgbPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb ModulePath /usr/X11R6/lib/modules FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/ FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/ FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/ FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/ FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/ FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/ EndSection Section Module Load dbe Load dri Load extmod Load glx Load record Load xtrap Load freetype Load type1 EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Keyboard0 Driver kbd EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse0 Driver mouse Option Protocol auto Option Device /dev/sysmouse Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 6 7 EndSection Section Monitor Identifier PrecisionColor VendorName Radius ModelNameSony HorizSync 50-150 VertRefresh 30-85 EndSection Section Device ### Available Driver options are:- ### Values: i: integer, f: float, bool: True/False, ### string: String, freq: f Hz/kHz/MHz ### [arg]: arg optional #Option NoAccel # [bool] #Option SWcursor # [bool] #Option ColorKey # i #Option CacheLines# i #Option Dac6Bit # [bool] #Option DRI # [bool] #Option NoDDC # [bool] #Option ShowCache # [bool] #Option XvMCSurfaces # i #Option PageFlip # [bool] Identifier Card0 Driver i810 VendorName Intel Corporation BoardName 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller BusID PCI:0:2:0 EndSection Section Screen Identifier Screen0 Device Card0 MonitorMonitor0 SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 1 EndSubSection SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 4 EndSubSection SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 8 EndSubSection SubSection Display
acpi: bad read from port 0x71:: FreeBSD 6.1 /boot fault
Does anybody know what to tweak in /boot/* to stop bad read/write messages from/to the BIOS? [At least so fare as I can tell? I've triied everything suggested on Google; rebooted, no-joy. The BIOS is reset (AFAICT) to their fail-safe defaults, but every 10 sec these errs get printed to stderr. I'd like to know what ... and *why* with 6.1, just out of the blue! thanks for any insights, gary -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public service Unix ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hey
Hi! I have a question. I have no idea what an operating system is. I know that FreeBSD is one. And do you know what kind of program or thing you need to watch TV on the computer? I know that they have screens that you can plug your TV into, and they might even have screens that you can just watch TV on. Alex ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OpenOffice port vs Firefox
On Wed, 6 Sep 2006, Michael Hughes wrote: On Wed, 6 Sep 06 17:37:36 PDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Perry Hutchison) wrote: Having gotten a sufficiently-recent version of glib, I am now several hours into the build of OpenOffice, and I've discovered that Firefox has quit working. When I try to start it: GThread-ERROR **: file gthread-posix.c: line 187 (): error 'Invalid argument' during 'pthread_mutex_trylock' aborting... Abort trap (core dumped) Of course, since it won't start up, I can't consult Help/About to find out the version :( but based on /var/db/pkg I think it is firefox-1.5.0.1_1,1 I suppose Firefox and OpenOffice are tripping over each other WRT the version of some shared library, but I thought the whole point of having version numbers on shared libs was to prevent that sort of problem. Does anyone have Firefox and OpenOffice coexisting on a single system? How is it accomplished? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Perry, It isn't easy is it. I am not sure why FireFox quit working like that. When I created the new glib for my box I was still running mozilla 5.0 and didn't have any trouble with it. I wonder if it has something to do with gtk+. I am running FireFox 1.5.0.6 that I downloaded the tarball and compiled. Let me know if you figure this out. -- Michael Hughes Log Home living is the best [EMAIL PROTECTED] Temperatures: Outside: 65.4 House: 72.1 Computer room: 71.1 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am also running FireFox and OpenOffice. I tend to install packages for workstations. With OpenOffice the version on FreeBSD works okay, you just have to manually install the prereqs. The other thing I do is start fresh with a new version. I.e., I do not cvsup 4.x -- 5.0. Maybe if you did pkg_info -rRx for both packages something in common (conflict) would suggest itself. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Hey
An operating system (OS) is a software program that manages the hardware and software resources of a computer. A key component of system software, the OS performs basic tasks, such as controlling and allocating memory, prioritizing the processing of instructions, controlling input and output devices, facilitating networking, and managing files. - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operating_system You would need a capture card to view an external video source on your PC. You would need a TV Tuner built into the card to tune channels using standard cable television as your video source. To be honest with you, if you need to ask either of these questions, FreeBSD might be a bit too advanced for you. Although I hate to discourage the use of this great operating system, you may want to stick to Windows until you are more experienced in the wonderful world of computers. Good luck! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 8:55 PM To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Hey Hi! I have a question. I have no idea what an operating system is. I know that FreeBSD is one. And do you know what kind of program or thing you need to watch TV on the computer? I know that they have screens that you can plug your TV into, and they might even have screens that you can just watch TV on. Alex ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Word processor for 6.1
- Original Message - From: Nikolas Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Perry Hutchison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 6:18 AM Subject: Re: Word processor for 6.1 On 9/5/06, Perry Hutchison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FreeBSD and Linux will not meet your teenagers needs, If you really want to introduce your kid to UNIX then buy a Mac... trust me on this... I interact with many high school and college kids on a daily basis. Any used Mac capable of running Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger and NeoOffice2 will suit your childs needs perfectly: PowerPC G3, G4, or G5 processor. Built-in FireWire. 384 MB of memory. 5 GB of disk space. It is less a matter of want to introduce to Unix than want to avoid Windoze :) and yes, a Mac with OS X would be fine. (My college sophomore is doing just fine with a one-year-old iBook.) Just keep in mind when you look for used Mac's that the Tiger OS normally on DVD ... If you can find an older copy of Panther OS it gives you lot more lattitude in what older Macs will work - it also does not require FireWire, so even the original iMacs will run it. Is Panther an earlier MacOS X (thus still marginally on-topic here :) or it MacOS 9? I have actually got an old PowerMAC (603-based) which AFAIK won't run anything newer than 9. Yes Panther is OS X: Mac OS X v10.0 (Cheetah) Mac OS X v10.1 (Puma) Mac OS X v10.2 (Jaguar) Mac OS X v10.3 (Panther) Mac OS X v10.4 (Tiger) Mac OS X v10.5 (Leopard) (Yet to be released) NeoOffice2 (NeoOffice is OpenOffice 2.x with a native mac front-end) requires Panther or better. Personally I would not buy anything less then Sawtooth G4 PowerMac. You should be able to buy a fully equipped sawtooth model on eBay for less then $250. I disagree. You can buy a Power Mac G3 for under $80 and buy a new IDE hard disk for it and run Panther on it and it will run all the stuff you want. And the seller will probably include a pirated version of Panther if you ask or even the actual install disks. Why line the pockets of some Macophile on Ebay who thinks his old junk is worth more than $100. The best bang for your buck would be a new refurbished Intel Mac mini for $519. Baloney. You can get a -brand new- mini mac for $30 more: http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.aspx?EDC=942793 why mess around with some refurbished mac? A used G4 Mac mini in the $300~$400 range would also be good bed because all mini's have USB 2.0, it's very easy to expand them using external drives. No it would not because the hard disk is going to be used and if it does not crap out in a year it's going to be dog-slow. If your going to go cheap - get the absolute minimum you can find for the cheapest price. Otherwise, get brand new. Trying to mess around with a price-point somewhere between new and dog-cheap is just going to waste your money. Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xorg install
how do i do that? i'm a newbie. g. On Sep 6, 2006, at 10:22 PM, Pablo Mora wrote: On 9/6/06, g [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'm trying to install xorg. using chapter 5, i installed Xorg, but it seems to break something. with the default install of 6.1, x window system starts. when i follow the instructions, in chapter 5, i get this message when i tried to start it (startx). This is a pre-release version of the X server from The X.Org Foundation. It is not supported in any way. Bugs may be filed in the bugzilla at http://bugs.freedesktop.org/. Select the xorg product for bugs you find in this release. Before reporting bugs in pre-release versions please check the latest version in the X.Org Foundation CVS repository. See http://wiki.x.org/wiki/CvsPage for CVS access instructions. X Window System Version 6.8.99.903 (6.9.0 RC 3) Release Date: 03 December 2005 + cvs X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.8.99.903 Build Operating System: FreeBSD 6.1 i386 [ELF] Current Operating System: FreeBSD beverly.Belkin 6.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE #0 : Sun May 7 04:42:56 UTC 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/ obj/ usr/src/sys/S MP i386 Build Date: 16 March 2006 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.X.Org to make sure that you have the latest version. Module Loader present Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Wed Sep 6 01:56:19 2006 (==) Using config file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf Data incomplete in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf Undefined Monitor Monitor0 referenced by Screen Screen0. (EE) Problem parsing the config file (EE) Error parsing the config file Fatal server error: no screens found Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support at http://wiki.X.Org for help. Please also check the log file at /var/log/Xorg.0.log for additional information. * *** ** my goal is to run to window maker, with gnustep as a development environment. * *** ** below is the xorg.conf.new file Section ServerLayout Identifier X.org Configured Screen 0 Screen0 0 0 InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard EndSection Section Files RgbPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb ModulePath /usr/X11R6/lib/modules FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/ FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/ FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/ FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/ FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/ FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/ EndSection Section Module Load dbe Load dri Load extmod Load glx Load record Load xtrap Load freetype Load type1 EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Keyboard0 Driver kbd EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse0 Driver mouse Option Protocol auto Option Device /dev/sysmouse Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 6 7 EndSection Section Monitor Identifier PrecisionColor VendorName Radius ModelNameSony HorizSync 50-150 VertRefresh 30-85 EndSection Section Device ### Available Driver options are:- ### Values: i: integer, f: float, bool: True/False, ### string: String, freq: f Hz/kHz/MHz ### [arg]: arg optional #Option NoAccel # [bool] #Option SWcursor # [bool] #Option ColorKey # i #Option CacheLines# i #Option Dac6Bit # [bool] #Option DRI # [bool] #Option NoDDC # [bool] #Option ShowCache # [bool] #Option XvMCSurfaces # i #Option PageFlip # [bool] Identifier Card0 Driver i810 VendorName Intel Corporation BoardName 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller BusID PCI:0:2:0 EndSection Section Screen Identifier Screen0 Device Card0 MonitorMonitor0 SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 1 EndSubSection SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 4 EndSubSection SubSection Display
