Re: Need to restrict DNS requests to just 5 per second

2006-12-28 Thread Tek Bahadur Limbu
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On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 18:41:17 -0500
Chuck Swiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Tek Bahadur Limbu wrote:
 [ ... ]
  Thank you very much for your help and suggestions. Actually, the
  reason why I want to implement this restriction is because some
  clients whose Windows PCs are infected with viruses and malwares
  send up to 10-20 bogus DNS queries per second which causes the
  traffic utilization to go almost 5 times high on the dns server.
 
 There are legitimate reasons why a client machine might want to make
 dozens or even hundreds of DNS lookups per second-- or have you never
 used adns or another webserver logfile analyzer yourself?  :-)
 
 Please consider solving the problem rather than a symptom.
 
 If you experience what you determine to be malicious traffic from a
 host or traffic which violates your published AUP, please contact the
 systems' owner or perform firewall egress filtering on such a machine
 until it gets fixed.
 
 -- 
 -Chuck
 

Hello Chuck,

I will definitely try what you stated.

Thanks.


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With best regards and good wishes,

Yours sincerely,

Tek Bahadur Limbu

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Jwl Systems Department

Worldlink Communications Pvt. Ltd.

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Re: Calculate the time of last modification of a file

2006-12-28 Thread Odhiambo Washington
* On 27/12/06 10:54 -0600, Dan Nelson wrote:
| In the last episode (Dec 27), Odhiambo Washington said:
|  I am trying to determine the time of last modification of a file, on
|  FreeBSD.
|  
|  The following code achieves the same on Linux:
|  
|  # AGE = (current time) - (time of last modification of $FILE)
|  # please check your systems 'stat' command!
|  AGE=$(($(date +%s) - $(stat -c '%Y' $FILE)))
|  
|  test $AGE -lt $DELAY  {
|  echo -n yes
|  exit 0
|  }
| 
| You can use stat -f '%m' $FILE, which is identical to Linux's 
| stat -c '%Y' $FILE .

Bang!

Thank you so much, Dan!
 

Best regards,
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Systems Admin,
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Sleepy thread - Kernel Panic

2006-12-28 Thread Tek Bahadur Limbu
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Dear All,

I need some help on the problem below.

The following error occurs in my FreeBSD 6.1 (Dell 420) server:


Sleeping thread (tid 540242, pid 32378) owns a non-sleepable lock
panic: sleeping thread

Cannot dump. No dump device defined.

Automatic reboot in 15 seconds - press a key on the console to abort.
Rebooting


However, it does not reboot and simply hangs.

I have tried commenting the options PROCFS which seemed to work for 2
says. However on the 3rd day, the same problem surfaced again.

I probably think that it is a hardware problem. Does anybody have
some ideas regarding this problem.


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With best regards and good wishes,

Yours sincerely,

Tek Bahadur Limbu

(TAG/TDG Group)
Jwl Systems Department

Worldlink Communications Pvt. Ltd.

Jawalakhel, Nepal
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Fw: Mouse not working on FreeBSD 6.1

2006-12-28 Thread Mervin McDougall

I recently purchased an omega optical mouse - 
http://www.omega.com.tw/MOUSE-278962.asp . The link shows the mouse in 
question. I have been unable to get it to work however. after running dmesg I 
noticed the psm driver is being loaded and the mouse is being recognised as an 
intellimouse but there does not appear to be an error or report which suggests 
that the mouse has a conflict with freebsd. FreeBSD however, can not activate 
for me to use on either console or desktop.

Can anyone suggest what I can do to resolve this ? I will be more than happy to 
provide any extra information about the problem.

Mervin McDougall





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Text based puttygen or equivalent

2006-12-28 Thread Patrik Jansson

Hi,
I want to convert OpenSSH keys to PuTTy format automagically in
FreeBSD so I'm looking for a text based application for this.
Is there any?

Thanks,
Patrik Jansson
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Re: Text based puttygen or equivalent

2006-12-28 Thread Matthew Seaman
Patrik Jansson wrote:

 I want to convert OpenSSH keys to PuTTy format automagically in
 FreeBSD so I'm looking for a text based application for this.
 Is there any?

ssh-keygen(1).  Specifically the '-e' option. putty uses the same
format as the commercial SSH implementation.

Cheers,

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Re: No driver for NIC...

2006-12-28 Thread Bill Moran
In response to Garrett Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

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 B. Hansmann wrote:
  Hi,
  
  I just got a new mainboard (MSI K9N Platinum) with nvidia nforce
  570/MCP55
  chipset. It has a dualLAN 1Gbit ethernet adapter which I think is
  integrated into the southbridge chipset (nforce 570/MCP55).
  The mainboard manual says it's controlled by Vitesse VSC8601.
  
  I am new to FreeBSD and I did not manage to get it
  to work (6.2-rc2 amd64).
  
  I compiled a new kernel with this nve driver (for nvidia mcp onboard
  ethernet adapters) but it did not work. I tried to load all the if_*
  modules but none worked.
  
  Before I tried this I installed NetBSD3.1 and there it worked perfectly
  after the first boot (said it was an mcp55 lan adapter).
  
  How do I get this ethernet thing to work or is this chipset not
  supported? (mcp55 sound works as stated in the hardware list on freebsd).
  
  Help would be appreciated! Thanks...
 
 Got miibus?
 
 - From nve(4):
 
  To compile this driver into the kernel, place the following lines
  in your kernel configuration file:
 
device miibus
device nve

If he'd left miibus out his kernel would never have compiled.

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Firefox plugin config (Was Re: mplayer configuration)

2006-12-28 Thread Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum
Garrett Cooper wrote:
Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote:
 i used to use mplayer without a problem but i just upgraded it and
 now have problems--it doesnt work.
 
 i can play audio files wiht xmms, but if i try to use mplayer i get an error
 Could not open/initialize audio device - no sound.
 
 If i use gmplayer, it also doesnt work (same error) but i fooled around
 and saw that if i go to the Preferences configuration, and the Audio tab,
 and select the oss driver, it works. (Only for that sesssion, if i start it
 up again it doesnt work).

I believe the right syntax is...
ao = oss
... in either /usr/local/etc/mplayer.conf (IIRC) or ~/,mplayer/config.

More options are revealed in man mplayer.

Thank you! i did look in the manual but it was the HUGEST one ive ever
seen and i couldnt find this. Also i didnt know why it had changed for 
me.

Now i see that audio files are being handled by several different 
plugins. i think plugger is doing the audio files, even though
mplayerplug-in is also listed as handling some of these files. The
interface for the mplayer plugin is better. Whats the recommended
way for this to be first in the list (that is mplayer plugin works first and
it defaults to plugger otherwise)?

Thanks again!

Jen


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Re: where to get the iso c90 compiler?

2006-12-28 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2006-12-27 23:20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I want to compile the GCC 4.1.1 compiler.

Does the lang/gcc41 port work for you?

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Re: Text based puttygen or equivalent

2006-12-28 Thread Patrik Jansson

Matthew Seaman wrote:

Patrik Jansson wrote:

  

I want to convert OpenSSH keys to PuTTy format automagically in
FreeBSD so I'm looking for a text based application for this.
Is there any?



ssh-keygen(1).  Specifically the '-e' option. putty uses the same
format as the commercial SSH implementation.
  

Yes, but that only exports the public key. I need to convert the
private key to one which PuTTY likes.

Something like:
PuTTY-User-Key-File-2: ssh-dss
Encryption: aes256-cbc
Comment: imported-openssh-key
Public-Lines: 10
yadayada... public key...
Private-Lines: 1
yadayada
Private-MAC: yadayda

Cheers,
Patrik
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Re: No driver for NIC...

2006-12-28 Thread B. Hansmann
On Thu, Dec 28, 2006 at 08:39:10AM -0500, Bill Moran wrote:
 In response to Garrett Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
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   Hi,
   
   I just got a new mainboard (MSI K9N Platinum) with nvidia nforce
   570/MCP55
   chipset. It has a dualLAN 1Gbit ethernet adapter which I think is
   integrated into the southbridge chipset (nforce 570/MCP55).
   The mainboard manual says it's controlled by Vitesse VSC8601.
   
   I am new to FreeBSD and I did not manage to get it
   to work (6.2-rc2 amd64).
   
   I compiled a new kernel with this nve driver (for nvidia mcp onboard
   ethernet adapters) but it did not work. I tried to load all the if_*
   modules but none worked.
   
   Before I tried this I installed NetBSD3.1 and there it worked perfectly
   after the first boot (said it was an mcp55 lan adapter).
   
   How do I get this ethernet thing to work or is this chipset not
   supported? (mcp55 sound works as stated in the hardware list on freebsd).
   
   Help would be appreciated! Thanks...
  
  Got miibus?
  
  - From nve(4):
  
   To compile this driver into the kernel, place the following lines
   in your kernel configuration file:
  
 device miibus
 device nve
 
 If he'd left miibus out his kernel would never have compiled.
 
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Right. The kernel compiled succesfully and booted. I had the miibus and
the if_nve in the kernel. Maybe it is just the wrong driver or I need
some device hints that I can't figure out. Does anyone have experience
with this mainboard/network interface?
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Firefox plugin config (Was Re: mplayer configuration)

2006-12-28 Thread Robert Huff

Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum writes:

  Garrett Cooper wrote:

  More options are revealed in man mplayer.
  
  Thank you! i did look in the manual but it was the HUGEST one ive
  ever seen 

And not overly well organized.

   and i couldnt find this.



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cron not running

2006-12-28 Thread steve
It has been a long time since I've had to post for help, so forgive me if 
this question is misplaced or stupid. 

I have a freebsd server running at home now for years with no problems.  
Over the  years it has been rebooted a few times either on purpose or do to 
things like power failures.  It has always started up without problems.  On 
the 12/27 I shut down the server so I could physically clean the server (was 
getting kinda gross with dust balls and stuff).  It started up no problems 
but rather curiously the cron service does not seem to be processing any 
jobs now. 

I am not sure where to go about figuring out what the problem is or how to 
fix it.  I would greatly appreciate any help or guidance from people here on 
this issue. 


Steve
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Re: cron not running

2006-12-28 Thread Derek Ragona
Check the clock.  Often older systems have dead batteries so the clock is 
so far out of whack cron jobs don't run.


-Derek


At 08:18 AM 12/28/2006, steve wrote:
It has been a long time since I've had to post for help, so forgive me if 
this question is misplaced or stupid.

I have a freebsd server running at home now for years with no problems.
Over the  years it has been rebooted a few times either on purpose or do 
to things like power failures.  It has always started up without 
problems.  On the 12/27 I shut down the server so I could physically clean 
the server (was getting kinda gross with dust balls and stuff).  It 
started up no problems but rather curiously the cron service does not seem 
to be processing any jobs now.
I am not sure where to go about figuring out what the problem is or how to 
fix it.  I would greatly appreciate any help or guidance from people here 
on this issue.

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Help with a flash memory

2006-12-28 Thread Robe

Hi,


I have a flash memory myflash with 1Gb. Ubuntu Linux and Fedora detects
and mounts it automatically. But I don't know how to mount it in FreeBSD 6.1
.



Can somebody tell me how to mount it?



I wanna know how to mount it in console mode.



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Re: Help with a flash memory

2006-12-28 Thread Tsu-Fan Cheng

when u plug in ur usb device, i think the kernel will detect it and show
some message in dmesg, then you should use mount_msdos /dev/xxx /mnt,
something like that..


TFC


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Hi,


I have a flash memory myflash with 1Gb. Ubuntu Linux and Fedora detects
and mounts it automatically. But I don't know how to mount it in FreeBSD
6.1
.



Can somebody tell me how to mount it?



I wanna know how to mount it in console mode.



Thanks,

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Re: cron not running

2006-12-28 Thread Roger Olofsson

Hello,

Make sure to use full path in the cron command file, like so:

/usr/sbin/ntpdate time.server.anywhere



Derek Ragona skrev:
Check the clock.  Often older systems have dead batteries so the clock 
is so far out of whack cron jobs don't run.


-Derek


At 08:18 AM 12/28/2006, steve wrote:
It has been a long time since I've had to post for help, so forgive me 
if this question is misplaced or stupid.

I have a freebsd server running at home now for years with no problems.
Over the  years it has been rebooted a few times either on purpose or 
do to things like power failures.  It has always started up without 
problems.  On the 12/27 I shut down the server so I could physically 
clean the server (was getting kinda gross with dust balls and stuff).  
It started up no problems but rather curiously the cron service does 
not seem to be processing any jobs now.
I am not sure where to go about figuring out what the problem is or 
how to fix it.  I would greatly appreciate any help or guidance from 
people here on this issue.

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directory permission error

2006-12-28 Thread Jean-Paul Natola
Hi everyone, 

I'm not sure if I should ask on this list- because the issue is  related to
SA- but since its in error in a directory I thought maybe it would apply-

I'm trying to get SA to use the directory,
/var/spool/spamd/spamassassin for its temp files-

So I added the this to my rc.conf

spamd_flags=-c -u spamd -H /var/spool/spamd/spamassassin

but I keep seeing this error in my log

spamd[39465]: bayes: locker: safe_lock: cannot create tmp lockfile
/var/spool/spamd/spamassassin/bayes.lock.milter.fci.39465 for
/var/spool/spamd/spamassassin/bayes.lock: Permission denied

do I need to add the spamd user to another group, or do I need to change the
permissions on the directory?

Or am I way off here ?


Any help would be appreciated.

Thank you








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Re: Help with a flash memory

2006-12-28 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Robe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I have a flash memory myflash with 1Gb. Ubuntu Linux and Fedora detects
 and mounts it automatically. But I don't know how to mount it in FreeBSD 6.1
 .



 Can somebody tell me how to mount it?



 I wanna know how to mount it in console mode.


Try the FreeBSD Handbook chapter titled USB Storage Devices.
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Re: Help with a flash memory

2006-12-28 Thread Robe

I've got it.

Thanx people,

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Re: ooopackages.good-day.net dead?

2006-12-28 Thread Jason Morgan
On Thu, Dec 28, 2006 at 06:40:21PM +0100, Heino Tiedemann wrote:
 Andrew Pantyukhin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On 12/28/06, Heino Tiedemann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Andrew Pantyukhin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   On 12/28/06, Heino Tiedemann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Andrew Pantyukhin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
On 12/28/06, Heino Tiedemann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
   
all subfolders are gonne:
ftp://ooopackages.good-day.net/pub/OpenOffice.org/FreeBSD
What is going on there?
   
Somebody wants to start using bittorrent, but no, p2p is
evil, don't you know? :-)
  
   -vv please
  
   For as long as I remember it took ages (or more) to download
   OOo packages (and sources), but as soon as anyone pointed
   towards p2p he got shot on the spot because p2p is supposedly
   ruining the Internet.
 
  Oh. It is realy unbelivable, that there is no hint, no link, no
  message abot that on ooopackages.good-day.net :-(
 
  Okay, I will use bittorerent
  But from where I'll get the latest OOo packages?
 
  Nowhere, that's the point :-) The official OO.org site
  only has the source distribution to offer via p2p. Get
  that and 5-20 hours later you'll have a package,
 
 
 Sorry, but i cannot believe that.
 
 At 2006/Dec/21 there whre new packages, see
 http://porting.openoffice.org/freebsd
 
 
 Why the hell should it all to be gone seven days later - without any
 hint?
 
 Heino

Can you use the packages on the FreeBSD ftp server?

ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD

-Jason
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Re: No driver for NIC...

2006-12-28 Thread Ivan Voras
B. Hansmann wrote:

 How do I get this ethernet thing to work or is this chipset not
 supported? (mcp55 sound works as stated in the hardware list on freebsd).

I have almost the same chipset (nForce 550 / MCP55). I know there's an
unofficial development-in-progress driver (it's mentioned on the lists
somewhere) that you may try - I still didn't find the time to do it.

But how did you manage to get the sound working? What driver?



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Re: No driver for NIC...

2006-12-28 Thread B. Hansmann
On Thu, Dec 28, 2006 at 03:25:01PM +0100, B. Hansmann wrote:
 On Thu, Dec 28, 2006 at 08:39:10AM -0500, Bill Moran wrote:
  In response to Garrett Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  
   -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
   Hash: SHA1
   
   B. Hansmann wrote:
Hi,

I just got a new mainboard (MSI K9N Platinum) with nvidia nforce
570/MCP55
chipset. It has a dualLAN 1Gbit ethernet adapter which I think is
integrated into the southbridge chipset (nforce 570/MCP55).
The mainboard manual says it's controlled by Vitesse VSC8601.

I am new to FreeBSD and I did not manage to get it
to work (6.2-rc2 amd64).

I compiled a new kernel with this nve driver (for nvidia mcp onboard
ethernet adapters) but it did not work. I tried to load all the if_*
modules but none worked.

Before I tried this I installed NetBSD3.1 and there it worked perfectly
after the first boot (said it was an mcp55 lan adapter).

How do I get this ethernet thing to work or is this chipset not
supported? (mcp55 sound works as stated in the hardware list on 
freebsd).

Help would be appreciated! Thanks...
   
   Got miibus?
   
   - From nve(4):
   
To compile this driver into the kernel, place the following lines
in your kernel configuration file:
   
  device miibus
  device nve
  
  If he'd left miibus out his kernel would never have compiled.
  
  -- 
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  Collaborative Fusion Inc.
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 Right. The kernel compiled succesfully and booted. I had the miibus and
 the if_nve in the kernel. Maybe it is just the wrong driver or I need
 some device hints that I can't figure out. Does anyone have experience
 with this mainboard/network interface?
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OK. For anynone who will have the same problem in the future:

NetBSD uses the nfe driver which was merged into the FreeBSD-7.0-CURRENT
tree. This works as a loadable module for 6.2-RC2 (source available at
http://www.se.hiroshima-u.ac.jp/~shigeaki/software/freebsd-nfe.html). There is 
also a patch for the nve driver but it didn't work for me.

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portupgrade -a useful option??

2006-12-28 Thread Vizion
Gi

I just wondered whether using portupgrade -a there might be any way to have an 
initial interactive dialogue to set all option for all ports to be upgraded 
during the run so as to facilitate an attendance free upgrade procedure. 

Maybe there is already some way to do this - if so perhaps someone could 
enlighten me.

Thanks

david

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Business port

2006-12-28 Thread Jerry
Hi all,

I have been rummaging through ports wondering if there might be
a utility or couple of utilities to handle bookkeeping for a
small membership organization.

I know little of accounting and such, so don't know how to
interpret the scanty pkg-descr tidbits that accompany the ports.
So, some amplification would be helpful.

It would need to keep records for about 500 members (say under 1000
for good measure - more is, of course OK), including membership, 
participation and official responsibilities (such as board oficer, etc).   
It would also need to keep accounts, regular receipts from members, 
non-members, services and payouts for expenses and also remissions to 
an umbrella organization.   The ability to generate regular reports for 
the membership, plus year-end reports for tax purposes would be important.
The ability to cut checks and keep a record would be a significant plus.

So, does anyone know of something good along this line in the open
source freeware world that would run on FreeBSD - whether currently
in the ports or not?

Any suggestions would be appreciated.  

Thank you for any useful information you can provide.

jerry
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Re: portupgrade -a useful option??

2006-12-28 Thread Beech Rintoul
On Thursday 28 December 2006 09:48, Vizion wrote:
 Gi

 I just wondered whether using portupgrade -a there might be any way to have
 an initial interactive dialogue to set all option for all ports to be
 upgraded during the run so as to facilitate an attendance free upgrade
 procedure.

 Maybe there is already some way to do this - if so perhaps someone could
 enlighten me.

 Thanks

 david

Run it in batch mode. From man portupgrade(1):

Run an upgrading process in a batch mode (with
BATCH=yes).

Cheers,

Beech

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Re: ooopackages.good-day.net dead?

2006-12-28 Thread Andrew Pantyukhin

On 12/28/06, Jason Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Thu, Dec 28, 2006 at 06:40:21PM +0100, Heino Tiedemann wrote:
 Andrew Pantyukhin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  On 12/28/06, Heino Tiedemann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Andrew Pantyukhin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   On 12/28/06, Heino Tiedemann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Andrew Pantyukhin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
On 12/28/06, Heino Tiedemann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
   
all subfolders are gonne:
ftp://ooopackages.good-day.net/pub/OpenOffice.org/FreeBSD
What is going on there?
   
Somebody wants to start using bittorrent, but no, p2p is
evil, don't you know? :-)
  
   -vv please
  
   For as long as I remember it took ages (or more) to download
   OOo packages (and sources), but as soon as anyone pointed
   towards p2p he got shot on the spot because p2p is supposedly
   ruining the Internet.
 
  Oh. It is realy unbelivable, that there is no hint, no link, no
  message abot that on ooopackages.good-day.net :-(
 
  Okay, I will use bittorerent
  But from where I'll get the latest OOo packages?
 
  Nowhere, that's the point :-) The official OO.org site
  only has the source distribution to offer via p2p. Get
  that and 5-20 hours later you'll have a package,


 Sorry, but i cannot believe that.

 At 2006/Dec/21 there whre new packages, see
 http://porting.openoffice.org/freebsd

 Why the hell should it all to be gone seven days later - without any
 hint?


Don't get me wrong, I only think Maho has some temporary
difficulties. I'm sure he'll make the packages available
as soon as possible.


Can you use the packages on the FreeBSD ftp server?

ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD


They are usually quite outdated. I can only see a 2.0.4
package for 6.2. You can use that, of course, it's not
that old.
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(no subject)

2006-12-28 Thread Vizion
On Thursday 28 December 2006 09:48, Vizion wrote:
 Gi

 I just wondered whether using portupgrade -a there might be any way to have
 an initial interactive dialogue to set all option for all ports to be
 upgraded during the run so as to facilitate an attendance free upgrade
 procedure.

 Maybe there is already some way to do this - if so perhaps someone could
 enlighten me.

 Thanks

 david

Run it in batch mode. From man portupgrade(1):

Run an upgrading process in a batch mode (with
BATCH=yes).

Cheers,

Beech

Missed it.. I thought there must be a way but I didnt see it!!!

Duh
Thank you

david


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Re: ooopackages.good-day.net dead?

2006-12-28 Thread Jason Morgan
On Thu, Dec 28, 2006 at 12:54:00PM -0500, Jason Morgan wrote:
 On Thu, Dec 28, 2006 at 06:40:21PM +0100, Heino Tiedemann wrote:
  Andrew Pantyukhin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   On 12/28/06, Heino Tiedemann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Andrew Pantyukhin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
On 12/28/06, Heino Tiedemann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Andrew Pantyukhin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 On 12/28/06, Heino Tiedemann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 all subfolders are gonne:
 ftp://ooopackages.good-day.net/pub/OpenOffice.org/FreeBSD
 What is going on there?

 Somebody wants to start using bittorrent, but no, p2p is
 evil, don't you know? :-)
   
-vv please
   
For as long as I remember it took ages (or more) to download
OOo packages (and sources), but as soon as anyone pointed
towards p2p he got shot on the spot because p2p is supposedly
ruining the Internet.
  
   Oh. It is realy unbelivable, that there is no hint, no link, no
   message abot that on ooopackages.good-day.net :-(
  
   Okay, I will use bittorerent
   But from where I'll get the latest OOo packages?
  
   Nowhere, that's the point :-) The official OO.org site
   only has the source distribution to offer via p2p. Get
   that and 5-20 hours later you'll have a package,
  
  
  Sorry, but i cannot believe that.
  
  At 2006/Dec/21 there whre new packages, see
  http://porting.openoffice.org/freebsd
  
  
  Why the hell should it all to be gone seven days later - without any
  hint?
  
  Heino
 
 Can you use the packages on the FreeBSD ftp server?
 
 ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD

Please excuse this post. Wrong forum.

-Jason
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Re: where to get the iso c90 compiler?

2006-12-28 Thread deeptech71

Giorgos Keramidas wrote:

Does the lang/gcc41 port work for you?


I don't know I don't care. I want to learn more about compilation 
processes, get to know UNIX-like systems more, and whatever. So I've 
downloaded the source for gcc, and the README says that I need the ISO 
C90 compiler. Where do I get that? OK it looks like I can compile gcc 
4.1 with an older gcc, but that's not my choice.

[ But if that's the case, how was the first gcc compiled? xD ]
[ How was the first ever compiler compiled? xD   ]
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Re: where to get the iso c90 compiler?

2006-12-28 Thread Gabor Kovesdan

[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:

Giorgos Keramidas wrote:

Does the lang/gcc41 port work for you?


I don't know I don't care. I want to learn more about compilation 
processes, get to know UNIX-like systems more, and whatever. So I've 
downloaded the source for gcc, and the README says that I need the ISO 
C90 compiler. Where do I get that? OK it looks like I can compile gcc 
4.1 with an older gcc, but that's not my choice.

[ But if that's the case, how was the first gcc compiled? xD ]
[ How was the first ever compiler compiled? xD   ]

C90 is not a specific compiler, it's a standard, see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C90

[Fistly, people wrote code in pure binary language. Then assembly were 
invented and later they wrote higher level languages in assembly.]



Gabor
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fixit floppy contents?

2006-12-28 Thread Andy Dills

Is there a standard way of installing complete filesystem images onto 
existing machines via the network, for example using dump, restore, nfs, 
and boot floppies?

I want to upgrade our mail server cluster from 4-STABLE to 6-STABLE, and 
there is so much that goes into the mail server setup... 
postfix/amavisd-new/clamav/SA/Razor2/DCC/FuzzyOcr all chrooted, that's a 
lot of port installing and lib copying I don't feel like doing. 

I've got an image of the 6-STABLE box I'm happy with and I want to be able 
to serve it via NFS, then go through the cluster booting on (hopefully) 
the fixit floppy, format the disks and restore the image over nfs, edit 
some confs, and boot it and away it goes in a fraction of the time it 
would take to go from scratch with each.

I'm not sure what tools the fixit floppy has. Anybody done anything like 
this before?

Thanks,
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Re: where to get the iso c90 compiler?

2006-12-28 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Thu, Dec 28, 2006 at 08:35:05PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
 Does the lang/gcc41 port work for you?
 
 I don't know I don't care. I want to learn more about compilation 
 processes, get to know UNIX-like systems more, and whatever. So I've 
 downloaded the source for gcc, and the README says that I need the ISO 
 C90 compiler. Where do I get that? OK it looks like I can compile gcc 
 4.1 with an older gcc, but that's not my choice.

There is no such thing as *the* ISO C90 compiler, but, the gcc README almost
certainly says that you need *a* ISO C90 compiler, i.e. a compiler that can
compile programs written in the C language as defined by the 1990 ISO
standard.  Gcc is one such compiler.

 [ But if that's the case, how was the first gcc compiled? xD ]

With whatever C compiler the gcc developer had at that time.

 [ How was the first ever compiler compiled? xD   ]

It probably wasn't.  The first ever compiler was most likely written
in assembler.  Later on the first compiler for a new language has usually
been written in some other language.


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Re: where to get the iso c90 compiler?

2006-12-28 Thread deeptech71
[Fistly, people wrote code in pure binary language. Then assembly were 
invented and later they wrote higher level languages in assembly.]


 With whatever C compiler the gcc developer had at that time.

 It probably wasn't.  The first ever compiler was most likely written
 in assembler.  Later on the first compiler for a new language has
 usually been written in some other language.

Yeah I knew that. Anyone know a good book on assembly language?

The evolution of programming. Can someone give me a link?
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Re: where to get the iso c90 compiler?

2006-12-28 Thread deeptech71

Gabor Kovesdan wrote:

C90 is not a specific compiler, it's a standard, see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C90


AH OK THX. Back to a pre-compiled gcc.


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Problem with my server

2006-12-28 Thread Lisa Casey

Hi,

I'm running freeradius on FreeBSD 5.3 I noticed a problem in my radius logs 
a little while ago. In my messages log I saw the following:


Dec 28 03:11:42 radius kernel: pid 53251 (cp), uid 0 inumber 8 on /tmp: 
filesystem full
Dec 28 03:11:55 radius kernel: pid 52711 (perl), uid 0 inumber 7 on /tmp: 
filesystem full


I rebooted the system and it seems to be OK now. I am comcerned though 
because I don't really know what might cause /tmp to fill up and what I 
might do to prevent that. I don't know what df showed before the reboot, but 
the /tmp file system is fine now:


Filesystem  1K-blocksUsedAvail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/ad0s1a253678  124276   10910853%/
devfs   1   10   100%/dev
/dev/ad0s1e253678  22   233362 0%/tmp
/dev/ad0s1f  36493196 2114040 31459702 6%/usr
/dev/ad0s1d396526   47528   31727613%/var
devfs   1   10   100%/var/named/dev

I realise this might be a pretty vague question, but what might cause /tmp 
to get full? This server is used for radius authentication, email for a few 
(~ 50) users and it runs bind as a slave DNS server.


Thanks for any input.

Lisa Casey

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Re: Problem with my server

2006-12-28 Thread Derek Ragona

Check for symlinks into tmp such as /var/tmp - /tmp

Often logfiles will fill /tmp

-Derek


At 02:35 PM 12/28/2006, Lisa Casey wrote:

Hi,

I'm running freeradius on FreeBSD 5.3 I noticed a problem in my radius 
logs a little while ago. In my messages log I saw the following:


Dec 28 03:11:42 radius kernel: pid 53251 (cp), uid 0 inumber 8 on /tmp: 
filesystem full
Dec 28 03:11:55 radius kernel: pid 52711 (perl), uid 0 inumber 7 on /tmp: 
filesystem full


I rebooted the system and it seems to be OK now. I am comcerned though 
because I don't really know what might cause /tmp to fill up and what I 
might do to prevent that. I don't know what df showed before the reboot, 
but the /tmp file system is fine now:


Filesystem  1K-blocksUsedAvail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/ad0s1a253678  124276   10910853%/
devfs   1   10   100%/dev
/dev/ad0s1e253678  22   233362 0%/tmp
/dev/ad0s1f  36493196 2114040 31459702 6%/usr
/dev/ad0s1d396526   47528   31727613%/var
devfs   1   10   100%/var/named/dev

I realise this might be a pretty vague question, but what might cause /tmp 
to get full? This server is used for radius authentication, email for a 
few (~ 50) users and it runs bind as a slave DNS server.


Thanks for any input.

Lisa Casey

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Re: where to get the iso c90 compiler?

2006-12-28 Thread Duane Hill

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[Fistly, people wrote code in pure binary language. Then assembly were 
invented and later they wrote higher level languages in assembly.]


  With whatever C compiler the gcc developer had at that time.

  It probably wasn't.  The first ever compiler was most likely written
  in assembler.  Later on the first compiler for a new language has
  usually been written in some other language.

Yeah I knew that. Anyone know a good book on assembly language?


http://asm.sourceforge.net/ is a good site. I've used it a great deal in 
the past. It has references to various Linux's and FreeBSD.



The evolution of programming. Can someone give me a link?


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Re: where to get the iso c90 compiler?

2006-12-28 Thread Vizion
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [Fistly, people wrote code in pure binary language. Then assembly were 
 invented and later they wrote higher level languages in assembly.]
 
   With whatever C compiler the gcc developer had at that time.
 
   It probably wasn't.  The first ever compiler was most likely written
   in assembler.  Later on the first compiler for a new language has
   usually been written in some other language.
 
 Yeah I knew that. Anyone know a good book on assembly language?

http://asm.sourceforge.net/ is a good site. I've used it a great deal in 
the past. It has references to various Linux's and FreeBSD.

 The evolution of programming. Can someone give me a link?
I may be one of the missing links chuckles

I remember writing programs during the late 50's in binary on a form with four 
columns. 

Column 1 was to describe the purpose of the step. Column 2 contained the binary 
code for the step. Column 3 used my own shorthand to illustrate the meaning of 
the binary code in human language and column 4 described what happened to the 
contents of the registers.
___
In the early sixties I wrote a small program that translated data rather like 
the contents of column 3 into contents equivalent to column 2. meant I did not 
have to remember the binary numbers but only use a consistent set of 
abreviations. Saved me a hell of a lot of time I can tell you!!! I still had to 
write the descriptions.. and get the whole lot punched into 80 column cards 
begore it was of any practical use.

David_

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Re: Problem with my server

2006-12-28 Thread Jonathan Chen
On Thu, Dec 28, 2006 at 03:35:32PM -0500, Lisa Casey wrote:

[...]
 I realise this might be a pretty vague question, but what might cause /tmp 
 to get full? This server is used for radius authentication, email for a few 
 (~ 50) users and it runs bind as a slave DNS server.

When it starts to generate error messages, try running fstat(1) on
/tmp to identify the offending processes.
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pf synproxy

2006-12-28 Thread Andrikó Tamás

Hi List,

I have the following simple row in my pf.conf

pass in on $ext_if proto tcp from any to ($ext_if) port ssh flags S/SA
keep state

in order to let in the incoming ssh connection. Obviously it works as we expect.

If I make a slightly changes in this row like this:

pass in on $ext_if proto tcp from any to ($ext_if) port ssh flags S/SA
synproxy state

wont work as I expect, my ssh attempts left unanswered.

I just wonder what more do I have to modify in order to get spoofing
protected ssh
service(is there synproxy option supported on the FreeBSD flavored of pf)?
By the way, my $ext_if is an ADSL link (tun0).

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Tom
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Re: where to get the iso c90 compiler?

2006-12-28 Thread Gabor Kovesdan

[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
[Fistly, people wrote code in pure binary language. Then assembly 
were invented and later they wrote higher level languages in assembly.]


 With whatever C compiler the gcc developer had at that time.

 It probably wasn't.  The first ever compiler was most likely written
 in assembler.  Later on the first compiler for a new language has
 usually been written in some other language.

Yeah I knew that. Anyone know a good book on assembly language?

The evolution of programming. Can someone give me a link?

Well, I don't know assembly, but I found this and it looks very good:
http://www.int80h.org/bsdasm/

And it is exclusively for FreeBSD! ;)

Gabor
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Re: where to get the iso c90 compiler?

2006-12-28 Thread Duane Hill

Gabor Kovesdan wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
[Fistly, people wrote code in pure binary language. Then assembly 
were invented and later they wrote higher level languages in assembly.]


 With whatever C compiler the gcc developer had at that time.

 It probably wasn't.  The first ever compiler was most likely written
 in assembler.  Later on the first compiler for a new language has
 usually been written in some other language.

Yeah I knew that. Anyone know a good book on assembly language?

The evolution of programming. Can someone give me a link?

Well, I don't know assembly, but I found this and it looks very good:
http://www.int80h.org/bsdasm/

And it is exclusively for FreeBSD! ;)


That's the tutorial set I stepped through to learn the basics. Good 
basic stuff.

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Re: fixit floppy contents?

2006-12-28 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Thu, Dec 28, 2006 at 02:57:21PM -0500, Andy Dills wrote:

 
 Is there a standard way of installing complete filesystem images onto 
 existing machines via the network, for example using dump, restore, nfs, 
 and boot floppies?
 
 I want to upgrade our mail server cluster from 4-STABLE to 6-STABLE, and 
 there is so much that goes into the mail server setup... 
 postfix/amavisd-new/clamav/SA/Razor2/DCC/FuzzyOcr all chrooted, that's a 
 lot of port installing and lib copying I don't feel like doing. 
 
 I've got an image of the 6-STABLE box I'm happy with and I want to be able 
 to serve it via NFS, then go through the cluster booting on (hopefully) 
 the fixit floppy, format the disks and restore the image over nfs, edit 
 some confs, and boot it and away it goes in a fraction of the time it 
 would take to go from scratch with each.
 
 I'm not sure what tools the fixit floppy has. Anybody done anything like 
 this before?

The fixit floppy is basically a running system, minus extras like X
stuff and the ports, that can be booted from the floppy - or preferrably 
from the CD.   The first install CD also is a fixit, just choose
the menu item to boot to a running system - I forget the label text.
It is just basic FreeBSD Unix including necessary tools to deal with files.

There are a number of ways of moving filesystems from one machine
to another, including over the net.   I am inclined to use dump/restore
because it handles all situations of files and links and permissions, etc
properly and doesn't get locked in to the sector-by-sector trap.
But, you must create the filesystems yourself with either sysinstall
or fdisk/bsdlabel/newfs.   If you have room, the nicest thing is to
create the file systems and then copy the dump file to the machine
and restore it from there rather than over the net.  But it will
work over the net.

Actually, it is possible to build your own install CD that just
charges ahead and builds and installs things the way you want it.
You may need more than one CD if you put a lot on - or make one
to do the system build and then restore dump files on for the rest.

jerry

 
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Re: cron not running

2006-12-28 Thread James Riendeau
You might want to use ntpd to sync the clock before cron starts if  
this turns out to be your problem:


http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network- 
ntp.html


Once you have ntpd working, just put ntpd on the require line in the  
cron startup file,  /etc/rc.d/cron, to ensure that cron starts up  
after ntpd.


...or just buy a new motherboard battery.


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Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 09:07:23 -0600
From: Derek Ragona [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: cron not running
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Check the clock.  Often older systems have dead batteries so the  
clock is

so far out of whack cron jobs don't run.

 -Derek


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compiling/compiler comparison

2006-12-28 Thread deeptech71
Compiling. Let's say that the project is debugged and working. The 
performance is of the highest priority.


Does the executable code quality depend only on the compiler? Comparison 
between native and cross-compiling?
Is it worth porting the project to GGC if you can download specifically 
optimized .asm code for GCC? What IDEs are currently available that use GCC?


Finally, if someone knows wether microsoft's or GNU's compiler is better 
for generating faster windows code, please?

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Re: tor, segmentation fault.

2006-12-28 Thread dima
On Wed, 27 Dec 2006, Garrett Cooper wrote:

  ports/security/tor ? I have use FreeBSD 4.11-RELEASE-p13 and 
  tor here always exit with signal 11 and Segmentation fault 
  message.

 Hmmm... doesn't look like you have any bad options.. You should try 
 compiling the port with the debug flag (-g) and see if you can point 
 out where it core dumps and then reply with that info or transfer 
 that information on to the maintainer.

GDB back trace outputs should be bot enough?
I asume the -g (debug flag) is a argument. But make does not have 
such arg. Where I should add the -g arg to?

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Re: compiling/compiler comparison

2006-12-28 Thread Ivan Voras
Your questions don't belong in this list because they don't have
anything to do with FreeBSD but here goes...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Does the executable code quality depend only on the compiler? Comparison
 between native and cross-compiling?

In general, the choice of algorithm is of the highest importance. Seek
compiler optimizations only if you already have adequate algorithms.

The results of native and cross-compiling should be the same, per
definition of cross-compiling.

 Is it worth porting the project to GGC if you can download specifically
 optimized .asm code for GCC?

Yes, in general, but you must test it before and afterwards.

 What IDEs are currently available that use
 GCC?

Depending of what you think an IDE is, either none or a gazillion.
There's nothing like what's available for commercial platforms, but
there are a lot of decent editors that can call compilers. If you're
doing windows programming with gcc, see for example Dev-cpp.

 Finally, if someone knows whether microsoft's or GNU's compiler is better
 for generating faster windows code, please?

Microsoft's, definitely. If you're really after extracting
water-out-of-stone performance, Intel's are even better.



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Re: Business port

2006-12-28 Thread Vince Hoffman
Jerry wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I have been rummaging through ports wondering if there might be
 a utility or couple of utilities to handle bookkeeping for a
 small membership organization.
 
 I know little of accounting and such, so don't know how to
 interpret the scanty pkg-descr tidbits that accompany the ports.
 So, some amplification would be helpful.
 
 It would need to keep records for about 500 members (say under 1000
 for good measure - more is, of course OK), including membership, 
 participation and official responsibilities (such as board oficer, etc).   
 It would also need to keep accounts, regular receipts from members, 
 non-members, services and payouts for expenses and also remissions to 
 an umbrella organization.   The ability to generate regular reports for 
 the membership, plus year-end reports for tax purposes would be important.
 The ability to cut checks and keep a record would be a significant plus.
 
 So, does anyone know of something good along this line in the open
 source freeware world that would run on FreeBSD - whether currently
 in the ports or not?
 
 Any suggestions would be appreciated.  
 
I cant promise its right for you but have you looked at gnucash?
(finance/gnucash) (http://www.gnucash.org/)
last time i looked it was about the best open source accounts package
(that was a year or so ago though and i never really used it as my
requirements can still be met with a spreadsheet ;)


Vince

 Thank you for any useful information you can provide.
 
 jerry
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Help

2006-12-28 Thread rythms1
I have try to make a desktop computer just to use BSD as a stand alone
desktop ...I had a friend to help and even with his help we
haven't manage to load up KDE or Gnome.it was partly
load up at the begining but it was very slow even with GNome and could
not find the host .like I call the computer OGUN , it
had trouble finding the host,so I load hte system again
it is in a old AMD 700 with over 600 SDRAM memory and a old 16 megs
NVIDIA video card.but it should work
...My friend Colin went into TTY to get X11 to work
but no luck it work but it took to long to load up as well as getting
anything to run.at the end manage to get KDE to run but
again to slow and many of the programs didn't work at all still would
not see the name of the computer OGUN ..so I went to
FREE BSD page had a look and saw what to do after I load the system
again ..load everything I could, all the X11 just  to make
sure...but since I only know very little comand line not
like Colin knows lots and works with Debian Linux and makes its own OS
out of Debian.he was a bit confuse.so how can I use the keyboard
to turn on

ttyv8   /usr/X11R6/bin/xdm -nodaemon  xterm   off secure...
everytime I try to type it in the keyboard it does something else so is any way 
one has to work with the keyboard to type on for the X11R6 
to work.
I just wanna use BSD so I can get use to it, and then use it on my other boxes 
,I got with Debian linux Colin say that BSD is more secure 
than Debian linux so I like to try it . Can you please give some hints in how 
to make it work as a desktop at home and surf the net and burn cd's that all I 
want to do and word as well
but for now I only want the desktop running.


Julio  :-( 

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Re: Help

2006-12-28 Thread Beech Rintoul
On Thursday 28 December 2006 13:11, rythms1 wrote:

SNIP
 Can you please give some hints in how to
 make it work as a desktop at home and surf the net and burn cd's that all I
 want to do and word as well but for now I only want the desktop running.


 Julio  :-(

Try DesktopBSD. http:www.desktopbsd.net

Beech

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Re: Help

2006-12-28 Thread FreeBSD WickerBill

On 12/28/06, Beech Rintoul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Thursday 28 December 2006 13:11, rythms1 wrote:

SNIP
 Can you please give some hints in how to
 make it work as a desktop at home and surf the net and burn cd's that
all I
 want to do and word as well but for now I only want the desktop running.


 Julio  :-(

Try DesktopBSD. http:www.desktopbsd.net

Beech

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Or PC-BSD http://www.pcbsd.com


It runs well on older equipment.
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RE: Help

2006-12-28 Thread Wood, Russell
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-freebsd-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rythms1
 Sent: Friday, 29 December 2006 7:12 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Help
 
 I have try to make a desktop computer just to use BSD as a stand alone
 desktop ...I had a friend to help and even with his help we
 haven't manage to load up KDE or Gnome.it was partly
 load up at the begining but it was very slow even with GNome and could
 not find the host .like I call the computer OGUN , it
 had trouble finding the host,so I load hte system
again
 it is in a old AMD 700 with over 600 SDRAM memory and a old 16 megs
 NVIDIA video card.but it should work
 ...My friend Colin went into TTY to get X11 to
work
 but no luck it work but it took to long to load up as well as getting
 anything to run.at the end manage to get KDE to run
but
 again to slow and many of the programs didn't work at all still would
 not see the name of the computer OGUN ..so I went
to
 FREE BSD page had a look and saw what to do after I load the system
 again ..load everything I could, all the X11 just  to make
 sure...but since I only know very little comand line not
 like Colin knows lots and works with Debian Linux and makes its own OS
 out of Debian.he was a bit confuse.so how can I use the
keyboard
 to turn on
 
 ttyv8   /usr/X11R6/bin/xdm -nodaemon  xterm   off secure...
 everytime I try to type it in the keyboard it does something else so
is
 any way one has to work with the keyboard to type on for the X11R6
 to work.
 I just wanna use BSD so I can get use to it, and then use it on my
other
 boxes ,I got with Debian linux Colin say that BSD is more secure
 than Debian linux so I like to try it . Can you please give some hints
in
 how to make it work as a desktop at home and surf the net and burn
cd's
 that all I want to do and word as well
 but for now I only want the desktop running.
 
 
 Julio  :-(

This is the sort of post I'd expect from a Bigpond luser.

Read: http://www.freebsd.org/

Regards,
Russell Wood


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