NFS Mount error

[Mike Barnard]

hi,

hope you are all good. i have a FreeBSD NFS server serving two NFS mounts
for mail and web servers. the server works fine and i can mount from it
perfectly well. problem comes in when i boot the mail/web nfs client, it
stops booting and gives the error

10.10.10.9:/mnt/mail not dismounted properly, run fsck manually or press ^D
to continue booting or enter password to enter single usernode.

if i hit ^D, it continues to boot, but remains almost in a forever state
while 'mounting the NFS directories'. if i hit ^C, it continues to boot.
when i log in and type mount, it has the NFS directory mounted. showmount -e
 show me the right directories and IP addresses
allowed to mount those directories.

is there something im missing/over-looking that leads to these hiccups.




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Re: Don't buy AMD products (was Re: Xorg and ATI card query.)

[Yann Golanski]

Quoth Nikolas Britton on Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 14:58:34 -0500
> We need to start hounding on AMD to publish the developer
> documentation for all radeon chipsets. I for one will not buy any AMD
> or ATI components until they decide to fix the problem.

It is not a problem but a marketing decision we know nothing about.  I
have seen Linux drivers, Windows drivers and Mac drivers from their
site.  I am sure that if we asked in a reasonable and polite fashion we
could convince them to release the drivers for *BSD -- or make the Linux
ones in such a way that they work on *BSD.  

Hounding them is not going to help.  It will harm our cause.

> Give him your two cents.

Please, do not do that.  It will hinder.

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Re: NFS Mount error

[Vince]

Mike Barnard wrote:
> hi,
> 
> hope you are all good. i have a FreeBSD NFS server serving two NFS mounts
> for mail and web servers. the server works fine and i can mount from it
> perfectly well. problem comes in when i boot the mail/web nfs client, it
> stops booting and gives the error
> 
> 10.10.10.9:/mnt/mail not dismounted properly, run fsck manually or press ^D
> to continue booting or enter password to enter single usernode.
> 
> if i hit ^D, it continues to boot, but remains almost in a forever state
> while 'mounting the NFS directories'. if i hit ^C, it continues to boot.
> when i log in and type mount, it has the NFS directory mounted.
> showmount -e
>  show me the right directories and IP addresses
> allowed to mount those directories.
> 
> is there something im missing/over-looking that leads to these hiccups.
> 

My guess is a typo in /etc/fstab
the line(s) should read something like
ip.add.re.ss:/mount/point   /mountednfs rw  0   0

(note the sixth field which specifies if it should not be checked by fsck)

Vince
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Re: Problem with VPN and LinkSYS BEFSX41

[Ted Mittelstaedt]

We had the same problem last year when we ran a tunnel between a Cisco
7200 running Cisco IOS and a BEF SX 41.  Keep in mind that Cisco
now owns Linksys.  In short, the owners of Linksys obviously know
that the Linksys product is garbage but they have not released a fix
for it's firmware.

I rechristened that particular model the BEF SUX 41.  It seems to fit.

Eventually the BEF burned up and I was rid of dealing with it.  Hoo Boy
the customer lost $50 that they spent on it!!

Moral of the story:  Crappy hardware does not a stable network make.

While you probably won't want to give Linksys any further business,
you should know that the Linksys RV042 is a vastly superior implementation
of the same product.

Ted

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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 1:13 AM
Subject: Problem with VPN and LinkSYS BEFSX41


> Hello!
>
> Situation: FreeBSD 5.3-Release + pf + racoon at local end and LinkSys
> BEFSX41 v2.1 firmware 1.52.9 at remote.
> Lifetime of phase 1 and phase 2 is the same and equal 3600 sec.
> Tunnel is getting up. I use setkey -D to SAD entries. There are 2
entries -
> inbound and outbound. OK
> When lifetime ends, there become 3 SAD entries - 1 outbound and 2 inbound.
> Number of inbound SAD entries is growing until tunnel goes down.
>
> Please help me, what's the cause?
>
> Yours,
>   Alexey Zakirov
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Re: Periodic xl watchdog timeouts on 6.2-RELEASE

[Ted Mittelstaedt]

I have found with some of the intel MBs that the latest BIOS update
actually causes trouble.  Don't be afraid to try back-flashing to an older
BIOS update.  Intel has all the BIOS versions up on their site for each
board.

Ted

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To: 
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 7:57 AM
Subject: Re: Periodic xl watchdog timeouts on 6.2-RELEASE


> > I had exactly the same problem in my acpi-blacklisted motherboard. I
> > disabled acpi and the errors vanished. In my case, this error was not
> > related with NICs, but exclusively with the motherboard.
>
> Interesting.  I hadn't thought of that, but I am using ACPI now where I
> was not on 4.x.  I'll give that a try next time it happens.  I would have
> hoped the motherboard would be up to par (Intel D845GVSR with the latest
> BIOS - http://www.intel.com/products/motherboard/D845GVSR/index.htm), but
> maybe not.  Thanks.
>
> (Sorry for the bad threading, I'm off list and copying off the web
> archive.)
>
> Brian J. Conway
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Re: Don't buy AMD products (was Re: Xorg and ATI card query.)

[Massimo Lusetti]

On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 04:40:19 -0500
"Matthew D. Fuller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm sitting on a G450 here.  Works great.  I've never heard anything
> bad about the 550 either, and it's a bit more capable.  But then, the
> 550 is also like 6 years old now (and still >$100 new, and uncommon
> used), and none of the newer Matrox cards have info released either.
> Your choices for a late-model graphics card with released information
> for an open driver are limited to...  ahh...  well...  no, not that
> one either...   uh...

Totally right! It's sad they're not on laptops.

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RE: Installing a second hard disk

[Aitor San Juan]

Thanks all who answered so quickly.

The PC's BIOS detects the complete capacity. The access mode was "auto",
and I have changed it to "LBA", but the same result: FreeBSD still sees
a disk (on ad2) capacity of 127 GB. The FreeBSD version installed is 5.4

Thus, I have installed the disk under Windows 2000, and behaves the same
way. However Windows XP recognizes the full capacity. The disk is a
Seagate IDE Ultra ATA disk.

Unfortunately site www.48bitlba.com only offers help for Windows-based
systems, and the tools are also for Windows-based OS.

Anyway, I have ignored the warning regarding the geometry inaccuracy,
done the following manually:

fdisk -I /dev/ad2
bsdlabel -w /dev/ad2s1
newfs -U /dev/ad2s1a
mkdir /mydata
mount /dev/ad2s1a /mydata
echo "/dev/ad2s1a   /mydata ufs rw  2   2" >> /etc/fstab

but for FreeBSD the disk's capacity is still 127 GB.

The BIOS date is 21 Mar 2002. I've found out that there is a BIOS
upgrade for the motherboard dated June 2002 (if I'm not wrong).
So, will upgrading the BIOS solve this issue?

Or will upgrading to FreeBSD 6.2 solve it instead?

Thanks in advance for any hint or suggestion.
Aitor

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Subject: Installing a second hard disk

> Hi List,
> 
> I am trying to install a secondary hard disk in a Intel-based PC
> with FreeBSD 5.4
> 
> This secondary disk's capacity is 250 Gb. When I enter sysintall
> to try to format it and create a slice, FreeBSD says that the
> geometry of disk is not correct. I, then, type in the values detected
> by the BIOS as suggested, but FreeBSD still complains that those
> are not valid. FreeBSD sees the new disk as a disk of approx. 131 GB.
> 
> So my question is: where is the problem? Is it that FreeBSD is not
> able to recognise such a big disk capacity?
> 
> Any hint, suggestion, or web link would be highly appreciated.
> 
> Thanks in advance
> Aitor.


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RE: FreeBSD Devil Image

[takhoos]

> What are the rules, in terms of using the FreeBSD Devil image to make  
> some stickers? 

Adam,
  You can purchase a seet of FreeBSD stickers from the FreeBSD mallthey 
look cool and cost $.50 per sheet

http://www.freebsdmall.com/cgi-bin/fm/bsdsticker?id=5ABM9LTC&mv_pc=100


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Need a good Unix script that..

[bstitt]

Hello,

I'm trying to write a script to delete all line that include a certain 
pattern in an output file. I sending information to one of our Security 
people and they take this data and create a spreadsheet on the 
information, I have a constant reoccurring lines within the output file 
that they do not need. I'm trying to use the sed command to remove lines 
that fits a certain pattern but it does not appear to remove anything.

Any helpful ideas or any useful links to scripts.

Thanks so much..

Bruce Stitt
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Re: Need a good Unix script that..

[Christian Walther]

On 14/03/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hello,

I'm trying to write a script to delete all line that include a certain
pattern in an output file. I sending information to one of our Security
people and they take this data and create a spreadsheet on the
information, I have a constant reoccurring lines within the output file
that they do not need. I'm trying to use the sed command to remove lines
that fits a certain pattern but it does not appear to remove anything.

Any helpful ideas or any useful links to scripts.


You can use something like:

cat yourfile | grep -v pattern >newfile

If there are several patterns to be removed, use something like:

cat yourfile | egrep -v "(pattern1|pattern2|pattern3|...)" >newfile

HTH
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Re: Need a good Unix script that..

[alex]

Why not use Perl? It'd be as simple as:

#!/usr/bin/perl

use strict;

open(IN, "$ARGV[0]") || die "Can't open $ARGV[0]: $!\n";
while () {
print $_ unless ($_ =~ /don't want>/);

}
close IN;

Save this script as "filter.pl" (or whatever you want to call it), and 
then just run "perl filter.pl  > ", which 
will pipe out all the lines you do want to .


Alex Kirk


Hello,

I'm trying to write a script to delete all line that include a certain
pattern in an output file. I sending information to one of our Security
people and they take this data and create a spreadsheet on the
information, I have a constant reoccurring lines within the output file
that they do not need. I'm trying to use the sed command to remove lines
that fits a certain pattern but it does not appear to remove anything.

Any helpful ideas or any useful links to scripts.

Thanks so much..

Bruce Stitt
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Re: FreeBSD Devil Image

[Sunnz]

Just looked it up in a dictionary:

daemon 1 |ˌdiːmən| (also daimon)
noun (in ancient Greek belief) a divinity or supernatural being of a
nature between gods and humans.

Yea I think we have just enough definitions... ~_~

2007/3/14, Nicole Harrington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Mar 2007, Old Ranger wrote:
>
> > Believe it or not, I actually had an irate woman
> complain to me about having a
> > "devil" image on our church website.  
>
> Nothing is more complete than the delusion
> that beauty equals goodness.
>
>   - Tolstoy

 I think it needs to be clarified that "beastie" is
Not a devil.

 Beastie was aptly created to represent a Daemon.
 Simply correct them that it is not a devil or demon
but a Daemon.


>From Wikipedia:

"Many people equate the word daemon with the word
demon, implying some kind of Satanic connection
between UNIX and the underworld. This is an egregious
misunderstanding. Daemon is actually a much older form
of demon; daemons have no particular bias towards good
or evil, but rather serve to help define a person's
character or personality. The ancient Greeks' concept
of a personal daemon was similar to the modern concept
of a guardian angel --- eudaemonia is the state of
being helped or protected by a kindly spirit. As a
rule, UNIX systems seem to be infested with both
daemons and demons." (p403)


  Nicole


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Re: Need a good Unix script that..

[Roger Olofsson]

Hello Bruce,

Without knowing more, may I suggest that you take a look at awk for 
doing this? You can combine awk and sed if you like. There's a good 
starting point at 
http://www.linuxfocus.org/English/September1999/article103.html


Good luck!



[EMAIL PROTECTED] skrev:

Hello,

I'm trying to write a script to delete all line that include a certain 
pattern in an output file. I sending information to one of our Security 
people and they take this data and create a spreadsheet on the 
information, I have a constant reoccurring lines within the output file 
that they do not need. I'm trying to use the sed command to remove lines 
that fits a certain pattern but it does not appear to remove anything.


Any helpful ideas or any useful links to scripts.

Thanks so much..

Bruce Stitt
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Re: Need a good Unix script that..

[Konrad Heuer]

On Wed, 14 Mar 2007, Christian Walther wrote:


On 14/03/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I'm trying to write a script to delete all line that include a certain
pattern in an output file. I sending information to one of our Security
people and they take this data and create a spreadsheet on the
information, I have a constant reoccurring lines within the output file
that they do not need. I'm trying to use the sed command to remove lines
that fits a certain pattern but it does not appear to remove anything.

Any helpful ideas or any useful links to scripts.


You can use something like:

cat yourfile | grep -v pattern >newfile

If there are several patterns to be removed, use something like:

cat yourfile | egrep -v "(pattern1|pattern2|pattern3|...)" >newfile


The unofficial UNIX guru law says: Using cat with one and only one 
argument is prohibited! Just a joke, but typing


grep -v pattern newfile

saves system resources, doesn't it?

Best regards

Konrad Heuer
GWDG, Am Fassberg, 37077 Goettingen, Germany, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: FreeBSD Devil Image

[t nagu tundmatu]

On 3/14/07, Sunnz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Just looked it up in a dictionary:

daemon 1 |ˌdiːmən| (also daimon)
noun (in ancient Greek belief) a divinity or supernatural being of a
nature between gods and humans.

Yea I think we have just enough definitions... ~_~




I think the "problem" is that this daemon has got tail and horns...
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FreeBSD Devil Image

[Jeff Rollin]

On 14/03/07, Nicole Harrington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Mar 2007, Old Ranger wrote:
>
> > Believe it or not, I actually had an irate woman
> complain to me about having a
> > "devil" image on our church website.  
>
> Nothing is more complete than the delusion
> that beauty equals goodness.
>
>   - Tolstoy

 I think it needs to be clarified that "beastie" is
Not a devil.

 Beastie was aptly created to represent a Daemon.
 Simply correct them that it is not a devil or demon
but a Daemon.



I think it needs to be clarified that the reason /why/ the image of
Beastie is so apt to represent a Daemon is only /because/ it LOOKS
like a daemon/devil. It wouldn't be half so interesting/striking/cute
if the image were a page of C code.

IMAO, the BSD community really needs to stop giving in to these
religious fanatics. Either that, or we might as well cover our women
and stop them driving cars to please the Jihadists.

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Re: Don't buy AMD products (was Re: Xorg and ATI card query.)

[Matthew D. Fuller]

On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 10:43:12AM +1100 I heard the voice of
Andrew Reilly, and lo! it spake thus:
> 
> Matrox used to have a reputation for goodness (I used to have a G400
> or the like), but it's been a long time...

I'm sitting on a G450 here.  Works great.  I've never heard anything
bad about the 550 either, and it's a bit more capable.  But then, the
550 is also like 6 years old now (and still >$100 new, and uncommon
used), and none of the newer Matrox cards have info released either.
Your choices for a late-model graphics card with released information
for an open driver are limited to...  ahh...  well...  no, not that
one either...   uh...


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Core 2 Duo

[Goncalves, Antonio]

 

Dear Sir,

 

I would like to use the FreeBSD as the OS of my new Laptop,
instead of SUse.

 

It has Core 2 Duo and a NVidia 7950 GTX. Can you please let me know wish
release shall I install?

 

Many thanks in advance,

Best Regards,

Antonio



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Hi ;

[Halil Guven]

Dear Sırs

I want to open in FreeBSD program 21,443,11905,11907,12341 15501 ports.How 
can i do these.


Please inform me and thanks in advance of your help.

Wait of your kind replay.



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Re: Core 2 Duo

[Ivan Voras]

Goncalves, Antonio wrote:


It has Core 2 Duo and a NVidia 7950 GTX. Can you please let me know wish
release shall I install?


Both i386 and AMD64 versions will work, but you'll probably have less 
problems with the i386 version. There are even nVidia binary drivers for 
FreeBSD, but you must check if they support your card.


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Re: Need a good Unix script that..

[Garrett Cooper]

On Mar 14, 2007, at 2:56 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hello,

I'm trying to write a script to delete all line that include a certain
pattern in an output file. I sending information to one of our  
Security

people and they take this data and create a spreadsheet on the
information, I have a constant reoccurring lines within the output  
file
that they do not need. I'm trying to use the sed command to remove  
lines

that fits a certain pattern but it does not appear to remove anything.

Any helpful ideas or any useful links to scripts.

Thanks so much..

Bruce Stitt
TSYS Hosting Services
Voice 706-644-0965


As mentioned, when doing simple regex replacements in Unix, some good  
languages / programs to use are:


grep <- extraction only
sed <- simple extraction / replacement
perl <- the kitchen sink

-Garrett
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Re: Don't buy AMD products (was Re: Xorg and ATI card query.)

[Garrett Cooper]

On Mar 14, 2007, at 12:41 AM, Eric P. Scott wrote:


[Doug Ambrisko]

One thing that is a plus with nv is that X has some support for it,


And if the Nouveau project http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/>
is successful, things could get very interesting indeed.  ;-)

-=EPS=-


No offense, but when that occurs it might be a cold day in hell given  
nVidia's track record.

-Garrett
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Re: Core 2 Duo

[Garrett Cooper]

On Mar 14, 2007, at 7:11 AM, Ivan Voras wrote:


Goncalves, Antonio wrote:

It has Core 2 Duo and a NVidia 7950 GTX. Can you please let me  
know wish

release shall I install?


Both i386 and AMD64 versions will work, but you'll probably have  
less problems with the i386 version. There are even nVidia binary  
drivers for FreeBSD, but you must check if they support your card.


i386 is 32-bit and amd64 is 64-bit. All newer Intel non-Itanium 64- 
bit chips are compatible with amd64.


Like I discovered though you may want to grab an appropriate LiveCD  
to match your hardware though, because your hardware may be too  
recent for a release CD. See my thread about 5 days back in the  
archives--some people that replied gave me links to where the release  
CDs were.


Cheers,
-Garrett
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bcwipe doesn't wipe any block device

[Thomas Vogt]

Hello

Has someone ever tried to wipe a block device on freebsd 6.2 with
bcwipe?

I tried
bcwipe -bvmd /dev/aacd1

I get:
Writing to /dev/aacd1: Invalid argument
I tried slices too but it i got the same error.

dd can overwrite my disk several times but perhaps someone can give me a
hint how to wipe a disk with bcwipe.

Regards,
Thomas
-- 
Terry Lambert:
"It is not unix's job to stop you from shooting your foot. If you so
choose to do so, then it is UNIX's job to deliver Mr. Bullet to Mr Foot
in the most efficient way it knows."

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Re: Hi ;

[Christian Walther]

On 14/03/07, Halil Guven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Dear Sırs

I want to open in FreeBSD program 21,443,11905,11907,12341 15501 ports.How
can i do these.

Please inform me and thanks in advance of your help.

Wait of your kind replay.


Pardon me - but what are you trying to do?
Sounds to me as if you're trying to install some applications from ports.
Well then, just read the related chapters in the handbook:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports.html

HTH
Christian
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Fixing DST manually on rel4 & rel5

[Ken Cochran]

Hello -questions:

This is most certanly a FAQ but I'm not yet finding the kind of
answer I need...

I have a couple of old FreeBSD systems that I can't (yet) update
to the new Daylight Saving Time rules (based on the email message
that came out on -announce in late February).  One is
4.10-stable, last updated late November 2004 & the other is
5.4-release.  Cvsup brings /usr/src in order but I can't update
ports (yet) to get misc/zoneinfo and it doesn't look like I can
just "transfer" the /usr/share/zoneinfo bits over from /usr/src
without a {build,install}world (also impractical at this time).

Best I can tell from the message that came from -announce sometime
back, the same fix(es) would apply to both the 4 & 5 branches.

Is there a "proper" way to fix the timezone on these machines
"manually" pending the "real" change that will happen in the
system according to the previous rules/schedule?  (e.g. Fix it
temporarily/manually but not clobber the original rules.)

Or is there some way to install the new cvsup'ed zoneinfo bits
into an "old" system so I can run tzsetup and have everything
fixed "correctly?"  I'm in US Central timezone and I've seen it
reported as CST6CDT (I guess that's in SysV).

FAQ/doc/book pointers/references are welcome of course - I'm
still digging around in both the Handbook & Complete FreeBSD
and wherever else I can find...

Many thanks,

-kc
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Re: UFS2 Snapshot limitiations

[Wojciech Puchar]

I seem to recall, but cannot find, the limitation on the number of
snapshots allowed on UFS2.  Could someone point me in the right


theoretically 20 snapshots. really - a few, as system gets
MUCH slower on partition with many snapshots.
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Re: Slim Server

[Lowell Gilbert]

"Jason Gretz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hey guys, I tried installing Slim Server from /usr/ports/audio/slimserver and 
> I am getting this error:
>
>  
>
> Makefile out-of-date with respect to 
> /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach/Config.pm /   
>   
> ---usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach/CORE/config.h
>
> Cleaning current config before rebuilding Makefile...
>
> make -f Makefile.old clean > /dev/null 2>&1
>
> /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.8 Makefile.PL "INSTALLDIRS=site" "CC=cc" "CCFLAGS=-O2 
> -fn   
>   o-strict-aliasing -pipe " "PREFIX=/usr/local" 
> "INSTALLPRIVLIB=/usr/local/lib" "I
>  NSTALLARCHLIB=/usr/local/lib"
>
> Checking if your kit is complete...
>
> Looks good
>
> Writing Makefile for File::Which
>
> ==> Your Makefile has been rebuilt. <==
>
> ==> Please rerun the make command.  <==
>
> false
>
> *** Error code 1
>
>  
>
> Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/p5-File-Which/work/File-Which-0.05.
>
> *** Error code 1
>
>  
>
> Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/p5-File-Which.
>
> *** Error code 1
>
>  
>
> Stop in /usr/ports/audio/slimserver.
>
>  
>
> Any Ideas? I have run “portupgrade –a” as well as updated my ports tree with 
> cvsup.
>
>  
>
> FreeBSD 6.1

Is your clock correct?  Maybe a timezone issue?
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Re: Installing a second hard disk

[Wojciech Puchar]

wouldn't be easier to simply use right command directly?

dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/newdisk bs=64k count=1 - to clean up any DOS or 
other mess it may be here


assuming you will need all disk as one filesystem

newfs -right-options /dev/newdisk

then add right entry to fstab and

mount -a

that's all


assuming you need partitions

bsdlabel -w newdisk
bsdlabel -e newdisk and edit label

and then same with newfs on each partition.

please DO read newfs manual, as default options aren't good

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Re: Need a good Unix script that..

[Kurt Buff]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello,

I'm trying to write a script to delete all line that include a certain 
pattern in an output file. I sending information to one of our Security 
people and they take this data and create a spreadsheet on the 
information, I have a constant reoccurring lines within the output file 
that they do not need. I'm trying to use the sed command to remove lines 
that fits a certain pattern but it does not appear to remove anything.


Any helpful ideas or any useful links to scripts.

Thanks so much..

Bruce Stitt
TSYS Hosting Services
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grep -v

man grep
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Re: No matter what I try I can't get Nvidia 3d acceleration to work. Please help!

[Norbert Papke]

On Tuesday 13 March 2007 21:41, Sean Bryant wrote:
> It seems the driver is attached:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:0:   class=0x03 card=0x chip=0x00f910de
> rev=0xa2 hdr=0x00
>
> its a 6800 GT.

In an earlier post you mentioned that there were problems with /dev/nvidiactl 
and the kernel module.  Just to confirm, 

* Does /dev/nvidiactl exist at all?
* Do you have /dev/nvidia0?
* Does "kldstat" show nvidia.ko at all?  
* What error do you get when you manually load the nvidia kernel 
module "kldload nvidia"?

Cheers,

-- Norbert.
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pam authentication -extension

[Anna C. Squicciarini]

Hi, 

We are  working for a project and trying to see if there is any possible way
to extend PAM authentication 
modules. 
I'd like to change the way authentication is executed and being able to
invoke PAM authentication as required. I thought about using temporary
configuration files, that can specify the particular type of module to be
used.
Do you know if anything in this direction has been done, or if it's possible
to be done?


Thank you
Anna and Abhilasha
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Re: Fixing DST manually on rel4 & rel5

[Lowell Gilbert]

Ken Cochran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hello -questions:
>
> This is most certanly a FAQ but I'm not yet finding the kind of
> answer I need...
>
> I have a couple of old FreeBSD systems that I can't (yet) update
> to the new Daylight Saving Time rules (based on the email message
> that came out on -announce in late February).  One is
> 4.10-stable, last updated late November 2004 & the other is
> 5.4-release.  Cvsup brings /usr/src in order but I can't update
> ports (yet) to get misc/zoneinfo and it doesn't look like I can
> just "transfer" the /usr/share/zoneinfo bits over from /usr/src
> without a {build,install}world (also impractical at this time).
>
> Best I can tell from the message that came from -announce sometime
> back, the same fix(es) would apply to both the 4 & 5 branches.
>
> Is there a "proper" way to fix the timezone on these machines
> "manually" pending the "real" change that will happen in the
> system according to the previous rules/schedule?  (e.g. Fix it
> temporarily/manually but not clobber the original rules.)
>
> Or is there some way to install the new cvsup'ed zoneinfo bits
> into an "old" system so I can run tzsetup and have everything
> fixed "correctly?"  I'm in US Central timezone and I've seen it
> reported as CST6CDT (I guess that's in SysV).
>
> FAQ/doc/book pointers/references are welcome of course - I'm
> still digging around in both the Handbook & Complete FreeBSD
> and wherever else I can find...

Copying the zoneinfo files (and running tzsetup) should work fine.
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binary patches?

[Gary Kline]

Regarding most (or many) of the port changes--say, upgrading
foo-2.1.9_5 to foo-2.1.9_6, if  the upgrade could be done by
downloading a binary diff file, could the resulting
/usr/local/bin/foo-2.1.9_6 be achieved by downloading a 
relatively small binary patch?  Seems to me that smaller scale
upgrades could be done this way in preference to re-compiling
ports or downloading entire pacakes.  --Same would go for any
dependencies.

Why is this a bad idea!

gary
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Re: binary patches?

[Gabor Kovesdan]

Gary Kline schrieb:

Regarding most (or many) of the port changes--say, upgrading
foo-2.1.9_5 to foo-2.1.9_6, if  the upgrade could be done by
downloading a binary diff file, could the resulting
	/usr/local/bin/foo-2.1.9_6 be achieved by downloading a 
	relatively small binary patch?  Seems to me that smaller scale

upgrades could be done this way in preference to re-compiling
ports or downloading entire pacakes.  --Same would go for any
dependencies.

Why is this a bad idea!

gary
  
The final form of actual binaries depend on a lot of things, e.g. which 
version of dependency you compiled with, which CFLAGS you have used, 
what options the port you built it. Some of these applies to packages as 
well, that's why I prefer ports over packages at all. E.g. let's see 
lang/php5. It does not have the apache module enabled by default. If it 
were, then the problem comes up with Apache versions. IIRC, 2.2 is the 
default now, but what if you use 2.0? How would you install php for your 
apache version from package? The situtation has been already pretty 
complicated with packages if you have higher needs for fine tuning, but 
you can use them if you don't have special needs. Binary diffs would be 
so complicated that I think this way we could really not follow.


If you need simplicity at all, use portupgrade with packages. It has an 
option (don't remember which one) you can use to make it fetch packages 
instead of building from source. Nowadays, this network traffic should 
not be a real problem, I think.


Regards,
Gabor
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Re: Core 2 Duo

[Jerry McAllister]

On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 01:39:22PM +0100, Goncalves, Antonio wrote:

> 
> Dear Sir,
> 
> I would like to use the FreeBSD as the OS of my new Laptop,
> instead of SUse.
> 
> It has Core 2 Duo and a NVidia 7950 GTX. Can you please let me know wish
> release shall I install?

Generally you would use the latest release (currently 6.2) and then
cvsup (csup) to RElENG_6. In some cases and possibly this one,
when the hardware might be very recent, you might have to go even
more bleeding edge and install the development branch to get some
needed hardware support.   That would currently be 7.0 and csup to
the latest available.

In general, you do not have to go backwards to match hardware compatibility.

jerry

> 
> Many thanks in advance,
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> Antonio
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Re: binary patches?

[Vince]

Gary Kline wrote:
>   Regarding most (or many) of the port changes--say, upgrading
>   foo-2.1.9_5 to foo-2.1.9_6, if  the upgrade could be done by
>   downloading a binary diff file, could the resulting
>   /usr/local/bin/foo-2.1.9_6 be achieved by downloading a 
>   relatively small binary patch?  Seems to me that smaller scale
>   upgrades could be done this way in preference to re-compiling
>   ports or downloading entire pacakes.  --Same would go for any
>   dependencies.
> 
>   Why is this a bad idea!
> 
>   gary
portsnap works on this basis as does freebsd-update, see
http://www.daemonology.net/freebsd-update/
I can imagine it could get horribly complex, but using
http://www.daemonology.net/bsdiff/ i guess its potentially possible.
Colin Percival would be a good person to talk to if you're thinking of
implementing this, since he wrote the tools referenced above.


Vince
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Re: binary patches?

[Gary Kline]

On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 04:20:00PM +, Vince wrote:
> Gary Kline wrote:
> > Regarding most (or many) of the port changes--say, upgrading
> > foo-2.1.9_5 to foo-2.1.9_6, if  the upgrade could be done by
> > downloading a binary diff file, could the resulting
> > /usr/local/bin/foo-2.1.9_6 be achieved by downloading a 
> > relatively small binary patch?  Seems to me that smaller scale
> > upgrades could be done this way in preference to re-compiling
> > ports or downloading entire pacakes.  --Same would go for any
> > dependencies.
> > 
> > Why is this a bad idea!
> > 
> > gary
> portsnap works on this basis as does freebsd-update, see
> http://www.daemonology.net/freebsd-update/
> I can imagine it could get horribly complex, but using
> http://www.daemonology.net/bsdiff/ i guess its potentially possible.
> Colin Percival would be a good person to talk to if you're thinking of
> implementing this, since he wrote the tools referenced above.


I'm just starting to use portsnap over cvsup ports*; looking
for better docs on keeping (reasonably) current.  Thanks for
the URL's.  --This could get severely complicated if there 
were no ground rules.  OTOH, there's got to be a better way.
--Well, hopefully!

gary

> 
> 
> Vince

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Re: Don't buy AMD products (was Re: Xorg and ATI card query.)

[youshi10]

On Wed, 14 Mar 2007, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote:


Scott Long wrote:


Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote:


Sean Bryant wrote:


Andrew Reilly wrote:


On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:17:00 -0800 (PST)
Doug Ambrisko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

One thing that is a plus with nv is that X has some support for it,
whereas, the newer ati cards have no support :-(  I was a fan of ati 
since it was easier to get support.  Now I'm starting to lean 
towards Nvidia :-(





Does anyone know if there are *any* contemporary graphics cards
that have 3D acceleration supported by some flavour of
open-source x.org?  Doesn't have to be a super-fast 'leet gamer
system to be better than a non-accelerated frame buffer.

Matrox used to have a reputation for goodness (I used to have a
G400 or the like), but it's been a long time...

(I'm currently using a lowish-end NVidia card under the x.org nv
driver, but it has issues (of which no 3D accel is but one...)

Cheers,

  




Try the 'vesa' xorg driver. It may not be fancy or all that accelerated 
but it works quite well. I have an nvidia card and cannot get it to work 
for the life of me. the drive attached, but nothing happens after that. 
It might be the fact that I have a PCI express card. But the vesa driver 
is working just fine for me.




I had a PCI-X nvidia card 



PCI-X?  Or PCI Express?  PCI-X is not the same thing.



It isn't?  I guess this shows my ignorance!  Well, I think it is the PCI 
express - the one that is supposed to be super fast, and replace AGP.


Stephen


Yes, there's a difference. Please read: .

-Garrett

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beagle contents search not working?

[Must Karu]

Hi, 

can anyone confirm that any of the desktop search
engines, beagle or tracker, work on their system? What
Im interested in is whether they can search contents
of files? 

When I try to extract content with beagle on my
machine (latest mono, FBSD 6.2) using

beagle-extract-content file.txt

it gives: 

. . .
Unable to filter file:///file.txt: posix_fadvise

So: in light of the fact that FreeBSD does not seem to
have posix_fadvise implemented at all (right?), does
this mean beagle is not able to index file contents at
all on FBSD (at the moment)?  Possible workarounds? 

best, must

PS  As for tracker, its contents extractor cmd line
utility just exits silently, giving nothing. 

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Re: Freebsd-Update & Stable Dist's

[Lowell Gilbert]

"Don O'Neil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> When I built my latest server I used a FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE-200608 ISO image
> that was produced on one of the serveral 'snapshot' sites
>
> However, I was going to run freebsd-update to check for any patches, etc..
> That may need to be applied and it says it won't run on my machine:
>
> This system is running FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE-200608.
> FreeBSD Update is only designed to track FreeBSD Security
> and Errata branches and cannot update this system
>
> I was wondering if there is a way to force it to think my machine is really
> 6.1-RELEASE, or to safely use freebsd-update on my machine. 

I would think you would need to update some other way to be completely
safe anyway.  Since there's been a release more recently than that
anyway, a binary upgrade to 6.2 would be an easy way to kickstart your
ongoing use of freebsd-update.
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Zabbix problem

[Alexandre Vieira]

Hi list,

Anyone installed zabbix-server lately? Everything seems to be working fine
except the graphic generating.

The graphic apears, the values for max/min/avg appear in the graphic footer,
the scale also appears ok but there is no drawing line. I've tried many
parameters to generate graphics and the only thing in common is that the
line doesn't show up.

I've installed zabbix-server trough ports (from yesterday). The only error I
can see in httpd-error.log is:

[Wed Mar 14 17:49:16 2007] [error] [client 10.16.1.85] PHP Notice:
Undefined offset:  1277 in
/usr/local/www/apache22/data/include/classes/graph.inc.php on line 852,
referer:
http://10.16.3.92/history.php?period=86400&dec=0&inc=0&left=0&right=0&stime=mmddhhmm&itemid=17255&action=showgraph&from=0

and

[Tue Mar 14 16:20:00 2007] [error] [client 10.16.1.85] PHP Strict
Standards:  date() [function.date]: It is not
safe to rely on the system's timezone settings. Please use the
date.timezonesetting, the TZ environment variable or the
date_default_timezone_set()
function. In case you used any of those methods and you are still getting
this warning, you most likely misspelled the timezone identifier. We
selected 'Europe/Paris' for 'WET/0.0/no DST' instead in
/usr/local/www/apache22/data/include/classes/graph.inc.php on line 392,
referer:
http://10.16.3.92/history.php?period=86400&dec=0&inc=0&left=0&right=0&stime=mmddhhmm&itemid=17498&action=showgraph&from=0

I don't know if this is supposed to break the graphic generation. Just
curious to know if anyone else is having this problem.

Also, anyone noticed that most "native" classes to retrieve system data from
a freebsd agent either show as "Not supported" or return incorrect values?

TIA
Regards,
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Re: Tool for validating sender address as spam-fighting technique?

[Chuck Swiger]

On Mar 13, 2007, at 8:37 PM, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote:
Address verification callbacks take various forms, but the way  
exim does it by default is to attempt to start a DSN delivery to  
the address and if the RCPT TO is accepted it is affirmative.  It  
is not usually use VRFY.  Most address verification is done by  
attempting to start some sort of delivery to the address.


I'm assuming that DSN is Delivery Service Notification


yes


or return receipt.


mp


Most callback systems either try to do a DSN or they try to do a  
delivery (SMTP RCPT TO) and then quit before sending a message body  
via DATA; they do not depend on the SMTP VRFY command as that is  
commonly blocked or configured to return a generic "I don't know  
whether the address is valid".


If it is or if it somehow relies on the ability to deliver a  
message via smtp to [EMAIL PROTECTED] then I don't see how it prevents  
spam.


If the mail says it is from [EMAIL PROTECTED] but I cannot send a  
DSN to [EMAIL PROTECTED] then the account is most likely bogus  
sender and is refused.  It works wonders for spam.


DSN has a specific definition -- look in the RFCs as I don't  
remember which RFC it is offhand.  But you are supposed to always  
accept a DSN from <> as part of the RFCs


Supporting bounce messages from <> was part of the original  
RFC-821/822 specs.  The fancier three-digit codes and canonical DSN  
format was specified somewhat later, but I believe that the updated  
SMTP RFCs, 2821/2822 include it.


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Re: Hi ;

[Ivan \"Rambius\" Ivanov]

Hello,

On 3/14/07, Christian Walther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On 14/03/07, Halil Guven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dear Sırs
>
> I want to open in FreeBSD program 21,443,11905,11907,12341 15501 ports.How
> can i do these.
>
> Please inform me and thanks in advance of your help.
>
> Wait of your kind replay.

Pardon me - but what are you trying to do?
Sounds to me as if you're trying to install some applications from ports.


In my opinion, the original requestor wants to open the corresponding
TCP ports :)

With so little information, I assume that either the network
applications listening to those ports are not running or the ports are
blocks by a firewall.

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Re: getting mail to work

[NetOpsCenter]

Jeffrey Goldberg wrote:


On Mar 13, 2007, at 8:17 PM, jekillen wrote:



On Mar 12, 2007, at 5:14 PM, RW wrote:




Just as long as you understand the distinction between forward and
reverse DNS. Based on the whois record for for your IP address, at  the
moment you appear to have the following reverse DNS for the address
range 75.7.236.224 - 75.7.236.231:

$ for i in `jot  8 224` ; do dig +short -x 75.7.236.$i  ; done
adsl-75-7-236-224.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net.
adsl-75-7-236-225.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net.
adsl-75-7-236-226.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net.
adsl-75-7-236-227.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net.
adsl-75-7-236-228.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net.
adsl-75-7-236-229.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net.
adsl-75-7-236-230.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net.
adsl-75-7-236-231.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net.






OK, It appears that it is the ISPs name servers who
are responding. When I call up my sights I get to the
machines they are on according to my present
DNS setup.



But that is what the public sees.  If (which I strongly doubt) your  
own internal nameservers give a different result to


$ dig +short -x 75.7.236.224

then it still makes no difference to the rest of the world which,  
when doing a *reverse* lookup on your IP address doesn't get anything  
that looks like your domain name.




try www.brushandbard.com



That's not the question.  RW was (correctly) talking about *reverse*  
DNS, aka DNS PTR records.  That is we are looking at the translation  
*from* number *to* name.


If you look up one of my statically IP addresses

$  dig +short -x 72.64.118.115
n115.ewd.goldmark.org.

you get that instead of

 static-72-64-118-115.dllstx.fios.verizon.net

It took me many unpleasant hours on the phone to Verizon to get the  
reverse look up the way it is now.  I spent those hours on the phone  
specifically because I did want to run my own direct to MX mailserver.

#


I just got this above  problem cleared up with the Nework that supplies 
my lines and IP addresses.


Is this a common practice that the static IP you get from a Network 
Provider  will reflect the Network Providers ID not yours? I guess then  
you have to include what you expect in your order for a line/s and IP/s. 
for running mail servers.


Al Plant
NetOpsCenter  hdk5.net

#

My mailserver sends out mail as being from lists.shepard-families.org  
(in the envelope and header froms) but identifies itself as  
gecko.ewd.goldmark.org


a regular look up of either of those returns

  72.64.118.115

A reverse of that turns up

 n115.ewd.goldmark.org

which when you do a regular lookup gets you

 72.64.118.115

So my machine is claiming to be in goldmark.org, and doing a reverse  
lookup on its IP address points you back to goldmark.org.  So that  
strongly suggests that when it identifies itself as goldmark.org, it  
is doing so with the consent not only of the person who controls the  
goldmark.org domain, but also with the consent of the person (in this  
case Verizon) who controls the IP address of the machine.


If mail from my machine failed this IP --> name1 --> IP --> name2 -->  
IP test (the test being that name1 and name2 are in the same domain  
and that "IP" is the same IP throughout), then mail from my machine  
would get a high spam score by most systems.


I really don't want to sound harsh with this, but if you aren't fully  
clear  on concepts like reverse and forward DNS and authoritative  
servers for each, you really should be looking for a solution that  
doesn't involve you running a direct to MX system.  You can still run  
your own mailserver which you can integrate with your webserver, but  
have it relay all of the outgoing mail to your ISP's SMTP host which  
is set up for the purpose.


Also if you post your queries to the postfix mailing list (I think I  
recall that you were using postfix) you will probably find lots of  
pointers to information explaining about configuration.  "The Book of  
Postfix" (ISBN 1-59327-001-1) has a good discussion of the need for  
other hosts being able to reverse resolve the IP of your mail hub.


-j





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Re: Don't buy AMD products (was Re: Xorg and ATI card query.)

[Sean Bryant]

Andrew Reilly wrote:

On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:17:00 -0800 (PST)
Doug Ambrisko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

One thing that is a plus with nv is that X has some support for it,
whereas, the newer ati cards have no support :-(  I was a fan of ati 
since it was easier to get support.  Now I'm starting to lean towards 
Nvidia :-(



Does anyone know if there are *any* contemporary graphics cards
that have 3D acceleration supported by some flavour of
open-source x.org?  Doesn't have to be a super-fast 'leet gamer
system to be better than a non-accelerated frame buffer.

Matrox used to have a reputation for goodness (I used to have a
G400 or the like), but it's been a long time...

(I'm currently using a lowish-end NVidia card under the x.org nv
driver, but it has issues (of which no 3D accel is but one...)

Cheers,

  


Try the 'vesa' xorg driver. It may not be fancy or all that accelerated 
but it works quite well. I have an nvidia card and cannot get it to work 
for the life of me. the drive attached, but nothing happens after that. 
It might be the fact that I have a PCI express card. But the vesa driver 
is working just fine for me.

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Re: Don't buy AMD products (was Re: Xorg and ATI card query.)

[Yann Golanski]

Quoth Sean Bryant on Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 11:55:20 -0400
> Try the 'vesa' xorg driver. It may not be fancy or all that accelerated 
> but it works quite well. I have an nvidia card and cannot get it to work 
> for the life of me. the drive attached, but nothing happens after that. 
> It might be the fact that I have a PCI express card. But the vesa driver 
> is working just fine for me.

I tried to get a vesa working with a Radeon X1900 and the screen
resolution is rather poor.  I certainly cannot seem to get it at
1600x1200 which is what I am used to.  See my previous post if you think
you can improve on that.

I can live without fancy GL screen savers but having a tiny screen is
rather irritating.

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Re: Don't buy AMD products (was Re: Xorg and ATI card query.)

[Stephen Montgomery-Smith]

Sean Bryant wrote:


Andrew Reilly wrote:


On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:17:00 -0800 (PST)
Doug Ambrisko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 


One thing that is a plus with nv is that X has some support for it,
whereas, the newer ati cards have no support :-(  I was a fan of ati 
since it was easier to get support.  Now I'm starting to lean 
towards Nvidia :-(




Does anyone know if there are *any* contemporary graphics cards
that have 3D acceleration supported by some flavour of
open-source x.org?  Doesn't have to be a super-fast 'leet gamer
system to be better than a non-accelerated frame buffer.

Matrox used to have a reputation for goodness (I used to have a
G400 or the like), but it's been a long time...

(I'm currently using a lowish-end NVidia card under the x.org nv
driver, but it has issues (of which no 3D accel is but one...)

Cheers,

  



Try the 'vesa' xorg driver. It may not be fancy or all that 
accelerated but it works quite well. I have an nvidia card and cannot 
get it to work for the life of me. the drive attached, but nothing 
happens after that. It might be the fact that I have a PCI express 
card. But the vesa driver is working just fine for me.



I had a PCI-X nvidia card that I couldn't get to work, neither with the 
nvidia nor the nv driver.  But it turned out to be a flaw in the 
motherboard BIOS.  Updating the motherboard BIOS (which was an intel 
server board) fixed the problem for me.  Maybe you have a similar 
problem, or maybe not.


Stephen

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Re: Don't buy AMD products (was Re: Xorg and ATI card query.)

[Stephen Montgomery-Smith]

Scott Long wrote:


Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote:


Sean Bryant wrote:


Andrew Reilly wrote:


On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:17:00 -0800 (PST)
Doug Ambrisko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 


One thing that is a plus with nv is that X has some support for it,
whereas, the newer ati cards have no support :-(  I was a fan of 
ati since it was easier to get support.  Now I'm starting to lean 
towards Nvidia :-(





Does anyone know if there are *any* contemporary graphics cards
that have 3D acceleration supported by some flavour of
open-source x.org?  Doesn't have to be a super-fast 'leet gamer
system to be better than a non-accelerated frame buffer.

Matrox used to have a reputation for goodness (I used to have a
G400 or the like), but it's been a long time...

(I'm currently using a lowish-end NVidia card under the x.org nv
driver, but it has issues (of which no 3D accel is but one...)

Cheers,

  




Try the 'vesa' xorg driver. It may not be fancy or all that 
accelerated but it works quite well. I have an nvidia card and 
cannot get it to work for the life of me. the drive attached, but 
nothing happens after that. It might be the fact that I have a PCI 
express card. But the vesa driver is working just fine for me.




I had a PCI-X nvidia card 



PCI-X?  Or PCI Express?  PCI-X is not the same thing.



It isn't?  I guess this shows my ignorance!  Well, I think it is the PCI 
express - the one that is supposed to be super fast, and replace AGP.


Stephen

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Re: Don't buy AMD products (was Re: Xorg and ATI card query.)

[Vince]

Sean Bryant wrote:
> Andrew Reilly wrote:
>> On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:17:00 -0800 (PST)
>> Doug Ambrisko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>  
>>> One thing that is a plus with nv is that X has some support for it,
>>> whereas, the newer ati cards have no support :-(  I was a fan of ati
>>> since it was easier to get support.  Now I'm starting to lean towards
>>> Nvidia :-(
>>> 
>>
>> Does anyone know if there are *any* contemporary graphics cards
>> that have 3D acceleration supported by some flavour of
>> open-source x.org?  Doesn't have to be a super-fast 'leet gamer
>> system to be better than a non-accelerated frame buffer.
>>
I never thought I'd actually recommend it but
The Intel 82945GM  controller in my laptop has semi ok 3d acceleration.
I'm running the experimental xorg 7.2.r3 server with beryl and its
running quite nicely. output of glinfo below if anyones interested.

The performance doesnt compare to the nvidia drivers on my desktop at
home but it does its job, wouldnt want to game on it though.


glxgears output:
libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x5b
3235 frames in 5.0 seconds = 646.998 FPS
3610 frames in 5.0 seconds = 721.937 FPS
3525 frames in 5.0 seconds = 704.861 FPS
--
glinfo output:
libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x5b
GL_VERSION: 1.3 Mesa 6.5.2
GL_EXTENSIONS: GL_ARB_depth_texture GL_ARB_fragment_program
GL_ARB_imaging GL_AR
  B_multisample GL_ARB_multitexture
GL_ARB_point_parameters GL_ARB_shadow GL_ARB_t
exture_border_clamp
GL_ARB_texture_compression GL_ARB_texture_cube_map GL_ARB_te

xture_env_add GL_ARB_texture_env_combine GL_ARB_texture_env_crossbar
GL_ARB_text
 ure_env_dot3 GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat
GL_ARB_texture_rectangle GL_ARB_tran
  spose_matrix
GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object GL_ARB_vertex_program GL_ARB_window_pos

  GL_EXT_abgr GL_EXT_bgra GL_EXT_blend_color
GL_EXT_blend_equation_separate GL_EX
  T_blend_func_separate
GL_EXT_blend_minmax GL_EXT_blend_subtract GL_EXT_clip_volu
me_hint
GL_EXT_cull_vertex GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array GL_EXT_convolution GL_EX

 T_copy_texture GL_EXT_draw_range_elements GL_EXT_fog_coord
GL_EXT_histogram GL_E
   XT_multi_draw_arrays GL_EXT_packed_pixels
GL_EXT_point_parameters GL_EXT_polygon
_offset
GL_EXT_rescale_normal GL_EXT_secondary_color GL_EXT_separate_specular_co

 lor GL_EXT_shadow_funcs GL_EXT_stencil_wrap GL_EXT_subtexture
GL_EXT_texture GL_
EXT_texture3D GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp
GL_EXT_texture_env_add GL_EXT_texture_en
  v_combine
GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3 GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic GL_EXT_textu

re_lod_bias GL_EXT_texture_object GL_EXT_texture_rectangle
GL_EXT_vertex_array G
   L_3DFX_texture_compression_FXT1
GL_APPLE_client_storage GL_APPLE_packed_pixels G

L_ATI_blend_equation_separate GL_IBM_rasterpos_clip
GL_IBM_texture_mirrored_repe
  at GL_INGR_blend_func_separate
GL_MESA_pack_invert GL_MESA_ycbcr_texture GL_MESA
   _window_pos
GL_NV_blend_square GL_NV_light_max_exponent GL_NV_texture_rectangle

  GL_NV_texgen_reflection GL_NV_vertex_program GL_NV_vertex_program1_1
GL_OES_read
 _format GL_SGI_color_matrix GL_SGI_color_table
GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap GL_SGIS_t
   exture_border_clamp
GL_SGIS_texture_edge_clamp GL_SGIS_texture_lod GL_SGIX_depth

_texture GL_SUN_multi_draw_arrays
GL_RENDERER: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 945GM 20061017 x86/MMX/SSE2
GL_VENDOR: Tungsten Graphics, Inc
GLU_VERSION: 1.3
GLU_EXTENSIONS: GLU_EXT_nurbs_tessellator GLU_EXT_object_space_tess
GLUT_API_VERSION: 5
GLUT_XLIB_IMPLEMENTATION: 15



Vince

>>   
> 
> Try the 'vesa' xorg driver. It may not be fancy or all that accelerated
> but it works quite well. I have an nvidia card and cannot get it to work
> for the life of me. the drive attached, but nothing happens after that.
> It might be the fact that I have a PCI express card. But the vesa driver
> is working just fine for me.
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Re: Don't buy AMD products (was Re: Xorg and ATI card query.)

[Wojciech Puchar]

We need to start hounding on AMD to publish the developer
documentation for all radeon chipsets. I for one will not buy any AMD
or ATI components until they decide to fix the problem.

Here's the email address of AMD's president: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Give him your two cents.

already did, i use AMD Athlon64 processors, but none of it's graphics 
cards

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Re: Don't buy AMD products (was Re: Xorg and ATI card query.)

[Oliver Fromme]

Vince <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 > Sean Bryant wrote:
 > > Andrew Reilly wrote:
 > > > Does anyone know if there are *any* contemporary graphics cards
 > > > that have 3D acceleration supported by some flavour of
 > > > open-source x.org?  Doesn't have to be a super-fast 'leet gamer
 > > > system to be better than a non-accelerated frame buffer.
 > > > 
 > I never thought I'd actually recommend it but
 > The Intel 82945GM  controller in my laptop has semi ok 3d acceleration.
 > I'm running the experimental xorg 7.2.r3 server with beryl and its
 > running quite nicely. output of glinfo below if anyones interested.
 > 
 > The performance doesnt compare to the nvidia drivers on my desktop at
 > home but it does its job, wouldnt want to game on it though.

Depends on the game.  I'm also quite satisfied with the
intel i915/i945 graphics.  If I had to buy a new laptop
right now, that would be my preference.

The 3D acceleration is fast enough to play OpenGL games
such as ports/games/crack-attack smoothly at full-screen
resolution.

Best regards
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Re: Don't buy AMD products (was Re: Xorg and ATI card query.)

[Scott Long]

Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote:

Sean Bryant wrote:


Andrew Reilly wrote:


On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:17:00 -0800 (PST)
Doug Ambrisko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 


One thing that is a plus with nv is that X has some support for it,
whereas, the newer ati cards have no support :-(  I was a fan of ati 
since it was easier to get support.  Now I'm starting to lean 
towards Nvidia :-(




Does anyone know if there are *any* contemporary graphics cards
that have 3D acceleration supported by some flavour of
open-source x.org?  Doesn't have to be a super-fast 'leet gamer
system to be better than a non-accelerated frame buffer.

Matrox used to have a reputation for goodness (I used to have a
G400 or the like), but it's been a long time...

(I'm currently using a lowish-end NVidia card under the x.org nv
driver, but it has issues (of which no 3D accel is but one...)

Cheers,

  



Try the 'vesa' xorg driver. It may not be fancy or all that 
accelerated but it works quite well. I have an nvidia card and cannot 
get it to work for the life of me. the drive attached, but nothing 
happens after that. It might be the fact that I have a PCI express 
card. But the vesa driver is working just fine for me.



I had a PCI-X nvidia card 


PCI-X?  Or PCI Express?  PCI-X is not the same thing.

Scott
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per-interface default routes?

[Mark Messier]

Suppose you have a freebsd box with two LAN interfaces,
one numbered on netA and one on netB...

Some applications are listening on the netA IP address, some on the
netB IP address.  Some applications may be listening on all interfaces
but might have a directive that indicates which IP address to use for
packets sourced from the application, like this:

query-source address 192.0.2.2 port 53;

What I want to happen is that packets sourced from the
netA IP address go out the netA physical interface
and packets sourced from the
netB IP address go out the netB physical interface.

That is, I want per-interface default routes
(is this the correct term?).

How do I do this?

Thanks,
-mark

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Re: binary patches?

[Wojciech Puchar]

Regarding most (or many) of the port changes--say, upgrading
foo-2.1.9_5 to foo-2.1.9_6, if  the upgrade could be done by
downloading a binary diff file, could the resulting
/usr/local/bin/foo-2.1.9_6 be achieved by downloading a
relatively small binary patch?  Seems to me that smaller scale
upgrades could be done this way in preference to re-compiling
ports or downloading entire pacakes.  --Same would go for any
dependencies.

Why is this a bad idea!

because if you change say 5 lines in program source of  1MB binary 
program, resulting new 1MB binary will be MUCH different 
byte-by-byte mostly because of address shifting so lots of pointers to 
code (or data, rodata)  will change. so diff will be big.


recompiling is OK anyway, because you always recompile to your machine 
(assuming you set CPUTYPE in make.conf)

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RE: Upgrading from FreeBSD 6.1-Stable to Latest

[Wil Hatfield]

Taking this thread a little further since it is right in line with my todo
list for tonight. I currently have 6.1 installed on a Supermicro machine
with two ata drives. There has been a major bug that causes frequent kernel
panics which started at 6.0. The following build options seemed to help with
quick rebooting and recovery. But of course this week the reboots aren't
going to well and it is definately time to upgrade to 6.2-RELEASE
(RELENG_6_2) in hopes that whatever is causing the kernel panics is software
related and has been fixed.

makeoptions DEBUG=-g
options DDB, KDB, GDB
options INVARIANTS
options INVARIANT_SUPPORT
options WITNESS_KDB
options WITNESS_SKIPSPIN

options BREAK_TO_DEBUGGER,ALT_BREAK_TO_DEBUGGER
options KDB_UNATTENDED

options QUOTA
options PMAP_SHPGPERPROC=601
options TCP_DROP_SYNFIN
options SMP
options IPFILTER
options IPFILTER_LOG
options IPFILTER_DEFAULT_BLOCK
options IPFIREWALL
options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE
options DUMMYNET
options IPSTEALTH
options HZ=2000

#optionsRESTARTABLE_PANICS
options PANIC_REBOOT_WAIT_TIME=5

Will some of these options still work with 6.2-RELEASE or should I omit
something here in order to use the 6.2 release properly? I am sure there are
some since I am going from a 6.1 prerelease to a release. I am just not sure
which ones should be omitted. I still want the capability of the machine
rebooting unattended if a panic should occur.

Here is some more info in case anybody sees anything that I don't regarding
those panics. Never a single vmcore so I have found debugging quite useless.
But of course I do understand that I have alot to learn about debugging. Not
my forte.


### uname -a ###
123.domain.net 6.1-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 6.1-PRERELEASE #0: Thu Apr 20 16:01:16
PDT 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CUSTOM-KERNEL  i386

### dmesg.today ###
Copyright (c) 1992-2006 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 6.1-PRERELEASE #0: Thu Apr 20 16:01:16 PDT 2006
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CUSTOM-KERNEL
Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.20GHz (3206.53-MHz 686-class CPU)
  Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0xf43  Stepping = 3
  Features=0xbfebfbff
  Features2=0x641d>
  AMD Features=0x2010
  Hyperthreading: 2 logical CPUs
real memory  = 2146893824 (2047 MB)
avail memory = 2094931968 (1997 MB)
MPTable: 
FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs
 cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID:  0
 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID:  1
 cpu2 (AP): APIC ID:  6
 cpu3 (AP): APIC ID:  7
ioapic0: Assuming intbase of 0
ioapic1: Assuming intbase of 24
ioapic2: Assuming intbase of 48
ioapic3: Assuming intbase of 72
ioapic0  irqs 0-23 on motherboard
ioapic1  irqs 24-47 on motherboard
ioapic2  irqs 48-71 on motherboard
ioapic3  irqs 72-95 on motherboard
npx0: [FAST]
npx0:  on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
cpu0 on motherboard
cpu1 on motherboard
cpu2 on motherboard
cpu3 on motherboard
pcib0:  pcibus 0 on motherboard
pci0:  on pcib0
pci0:  at device 0.1 (no driver attached)
pci0:  at device 1.0 (no driver attached)
pcib1:  irq 16 at device 2.0 on pci0
pci1:  on pcib1
pcib2:  at device 0.0 on pci1
pci2:  on pcib2
pci1:  at device 0.1 (no driver
attached)
pcib3:  at device 0.2 on pci1
pci3:  on pcib3
pci1:  at device 0.3 (no driver
attached)
pcib4:  irq 16 at device 4.0 on pci0
pci4:  on pcib4
pcib5:  irq 16 at device 6.0 on pci0
pci5:  on pcib5
pcib6:  at device 28.0 on pci0
pci6:  on pcib6
em0:  port
0x2000-0x203f mem 0xdd20-0xdd21 irq 24 at device 1.0 on pci6
em0: Ethernet address: 00:30:48:84:f0:04
em1:  port
0x2040-0x207f mem 0xdd22-0xdd23 irq 25 at device 2.0 on pci6
em1: Ethernet address: 00:30:48:84:f0:05
uhci0:  port 0x1400-0x141f irq 16 at device
29.0 on pci0
uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
usb0:  on uhci0
usb0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci1:  port 0x1420-0x143f irq 19 at device
29.1 on pci0
uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED]
usb1:  on uhci1
usb1: USB revision 1.0
uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
pci0:  at device 29.4 (no driver attached)
pci0:  at device 29.5 (no driver
attached)
ehci0:  mem 0xdd001400-0xdd0017ff irq 23
at device 29.7 on pci0
ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
usb2: EHCI version 1.0
usb2: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1
usb2:  on ehci0
usb2: USB revision 2.0
uhub2: Intel EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub2: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered
pcib7:  at device 30.0 on pci0
pci7:  on pcib7
pci7:  at device 1.0 (no driver attached)
isab0:  at device 31.0 on pci0
isa0:  on isab0
atapci0:  port
0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x1

Re: Problems with SSH and Realtek driver

[Lowell Gilbert]

"Alexander Schlichting" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>  
>
> I had a problem with the sshd disconnecting incoming connections after a few
> seconds of inactivity. I tried a lot and found no solution for this so I
> ended up with trying the latest driver from here :
> http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1
>  d=4&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true>
> &PNid=13&PFid=4&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true
> and since the driver is from mid November last year I did not expect it to
> be any better. I actually expected FreeBSD to have that driver with the
> kernel but it seems like it's not. After installing this driver all my
> problems are gone. The problem is I have to install 4 servers with the same
> Realtek NIC. What would be the best way to do this and to compile the driver
> static with the kernel. I would like to avoid loading it as a module for
> every server. Does a snapshot release maybe have the latest Realtek driver ?

That depends a bit on exactly which RealTek hardware you have.  
However, the drivers have undergone continuous development, so your
results are likely to be better with more recent FreeBSD code.

An examination of the code with that version and the one it was based
on could tell you what the changes were that RealTek made.  Then you
could see if those changes have made it into the latest version.

Good luck.
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Re: per-interface default routes?

[Wojciech Puchar]

and packets sourced from the
netB IP address go out the netB physical interface.

That is, I want per-interface default routes
(is this the correct term?).

How do I do this?


using ipfw

rule example:

add xxx fwd router_for_a_link all from outgoing_address/range to any

please learn at least ipfw first if you didn't do already.
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ifstated check commands behavior

[Alexandre Biancalana]

Hi list,

 I'm trying to setup ifstated to check two links and if some go down, do
some actions like change pf rules and machine's route.

 My doubt is about the execution order/repetition of the states body of
ifstated.conf, in all configs that I tried just the last check is executed
always, follow and example:

ifstated.conf:
==
loglevel debug

ping1 = '( "ping -q -c 1 -t 3 www.site1.com > /dev/null" every 10 ) '
ping2 = '( "ping -q -c 1 -t 3 www.site2.com > /dev/null" every 10 ) '

state one {
   if ! ( $ping1 && $ping2 ) {
   set-state two
   }
}

state two {

   init {
   run "logger -p console.notice -t ifstated 'Restarting
network !'"
   }

   if ( $ping && $ping2 ) {
   set-state one
   }
}

==

# ifstated -dv
ping1 = "( "ping -q -c 1 -t 3 www.site1.com > /dev/null" every 10 ) "
ping2 = "( "ping -q -c 1 -t 3 www.site2.com > /dev/null" every 10 ) "
ifstated: initial state: one
ifstated: changing state to one
ifstated: running ping -q -c 1 -t 3 www.site1.com > /dev/null
ifstated: running ping -q -c 1 -t 3 www.site2.com > /dev/null
ifstated: started
ifstated: changing state to two
ifstated: running ping -q -c 1 -t 3 www.site1.com > /dev/null
ifstated: running ping -q -c 1 -t 3 www.site2.com > /dev/null
ifstated: running ping -q -c 1 -t 3 www.site2.com > /dev/null
ifstated: running ping -q -c 1 -t 3 www.site2.com > /dev/null


As you can see, after change state ifstated execute only the *last* check
command of the statement (ping2) forever

This is the expected behavior ?

I'm running 6-STABLE + ifstated-20050505 (instaled via
/usr/ports/net/ifstated)

Thanks for any help.

Alexandre
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Re: binary patches?

[Fabian Keil]

Wojciech Puchar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > Regarding most (or many) of the port changes--say, upgrading
> > foo-2.1.9_5 to foo-2.1.9_6, if  the upgrade could be done by
> > downloading a binary diff file, could the resulting
> > /usr/local/bin/foo-2.1.9_6 be achieved by downloading a
> > relatively small binary patch?  Seems to me that smaller scale
> > upgrades could be done this way in preference to re-compiling
> > ports or downloading entire pacakes.  --Same would go for any
> > dependencies.
> >
> > Why is this a bad idea!
> >
> because if you change say 5 lines in program source of  1MB binary 
> program, resulting new 1MB binary will be MUCH different 
> byte-by-byte mostly because of address shifting so lots of pointers to 
> code (or data, rodata)  will change. so diff will be big.

Is that a guess or did you actually test and verify this?

Fabian


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FreeBSD laptop computer

[Wojciech Puchar]

i need to buy new notebook for personal use.

Could you give me an advice what will be actually FULLY supported by 
FreeBSD.


Other needs are:

a) low price
b) high reliability
c) long battery run

processing power and extra peripherals are not important, even slower NEW 
laptops are much more powerful that me needs.


Especially WiFi is unneeded, LAN will be OK but it's not a problem to 
attach one.


thank you very much
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Re: binary patches?

[Wojciech Puchar]

code (or data, rodata)  will change. so diff will be big.


Is that a guess or did you actually test and verify this?

verified, but some time ago in linux, but i think it shouldn't make 
difference

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Re: Don't buy AMD products (was Re: Xorg and ATI card query.)

[youshi10]

On Wed, 14 Mar 2007, Oliver Fromme wrote:


Vince <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sean Bryant wrote:
> > Andrew Reilly wrote:
> > > Does anyone know if there are *any* contemporary graphics cards
> > > that have 3D acceleration supported by some flavour of
> > > open-source x.org?  Doesn't have to be a super-fast 'leet gamer
> > > system to be better than a non-accelerated frame buffer.
> > >
> I never thought I'd actually recommend it but
> The Intel 82945GM  controller in my laptop has semi ok 3d acceleration.
> I'm running the experimental xorg 7.2.r3 server with beryl and its
> running quite nicely. output of glinfo below if anyones interested.
>
> The performance doesnt compare to the nvidia drivers on my desktop at
> home but it does its job, wouldnt want to game on it though.

Depends on the game.  I'm also quite satisfied with the
intel i915/i945 graphics.  If I had to buy a new laptop
right now, that would be my preference.

The 3D acceleration is fast enough to play OpenGL games
such as ports/games/crack-attack smoothly at full-screen
resolution.

Best regards
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Intel's graphics line is ramping up too, so although the quality won't be as 
good as nVidia / ATI, it will continue to improve within the next couple years.

-Garrett

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Re: per-interface default routes?

[youshi10]

On Wed, 14 Mar 2007, Mark Messier wrote:


Suppose you have a freebsd box with two LAN interfaces,
one numbered on netA and one on netB...

Some applications are listening on the netA IP address, some on the
netB IP address.  Some applications may be listening on all interfaces
but might have a directive that indicates which IP address to use for
packets sourced from the application, like this:

query-source address 192.0.2.2 port 53;

What I want to happen is that packets sourced from the
netA IP address go out the netA physical interface
and packets sourced from the
netB IP address go out the netB physical interface.

That is, I want per-interface default routes
(is this the correct term?).

How do I do this?

Thanks,
-mark


Route has more information if you want to setup default routes for interfaces. 
Either that, or natd will yield a solution for you.

-Garrett

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Re: binary patches?

[youshi10]

On Wed, 14 Mar 2007, Fabian Keil wrote:


Wojciech Puchar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Regarding most (or many) of the port changes--say, upgrading
foo-2.1.9_5 to foo-2.1.9_6, if  the upgrade could be done by
downloading a binary diff file, could the resulting
/usr/local/bin/foo-2.1.9_6 be achieved by downloading a
relatively small binary patch?  Seems to me that smaller scale
upgrades could be done this way in preference to re-compiling
ports or downloading entire pacakes.  --Same would go for any
dependencies.

Why is this a bad idea!


because if you change say 5 lines in program source of  1MB binary
program, resulting new 1MB binary will be MUCH different
byte-by-byte mostly because of address shifting so lots of pointers to
code (or data, rodata)  will change. so diff will be big.


Is that a guess or did you actually test and verify this?

Fabian


Well, this can be done by diffing two different copies of a similar binary. 
Frankly, binary patches should be done thought IMHO because like Wojciech 
mentioned the differences would be huge.

Besides, the patches aren't portable, so the program would have to be 
recompiled in the target arch, diffed, then put to a patch file. This as a 
hunch / gut feeling I have, but the majority of the patches produced using this 
method would soon approach the original packages size (assuming that there were 
changes over the entire package and not a portion of it).

If you're thinking of creating a hotfix system though, that would be a good 
idea (assuming everything's dynamically linked as opposed to statically 
linked). When M$ moved their patch release infrastructure to their current 
smaller one, update sizes did decrease by a fairly large amount (2-3+ times?). 
The only thing is that keeping track of versions becomes an important thing and 
making sure that you have all the successive patches in a line becomes a 
mess--hence, you have to go to the Windows update site multiple times to update 
one Windows component, like .NET 1.1 for instance.

Just a few thoughts on the topic.
-Garrett

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Re: per-interface default routes?

[Wojciech Puchar]

That is, I want per-interface default routes
(is this the correct term?).

How do I do this?

Thanks,
-mark


Route has more information if you want to setup default routes for 
interfaces. Either that, or natd will yield a solution for you.


natd needs IPFW and is quite CPU consuming compared to just ipfw, which 
does very well what was asked for.

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Re: binary patches?

[Wojciech Puchar]

Well, this can be done by diffing two different copies of a similar binary. 
Frankly, binary patches should be done thought IMHO because like Wojciech 
mentioned the differences would be huge.




actually i never user binary packages from freebsd site. this is no 
problem to compile from source as ports are fully automated, and setting 
at least  CPUTYPE in make.conf allows to make it optimized for machine

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Re: aaccli doesn't work with AOC-LPZCR2 (Supermicro)

[Vivek Khera]

On Mar 13, 2007, at 5:44 AM, Thomas Vogt wrote:


FreeBSD (6.2 and Current) boots and works perfectly. Only the storage
control program from port/sysutils/aaccli doesn't work with this
controller.

aaccli open aac0:
Command Error: 

Is there a way to check the status from the Raid without it? Perhaps
with the linux aaccli? I doubt that adaptec is releasing a new aaccli
for freebsd soon.


Yes, this is a problem for all modern adaptec RAID bios.  I've been  
trying to get Scott Long to work on a monitoring solution for these  
newer cards and he expressed interest, but the project seems to have  
fallen off of his short list... Perhaps I shall ping him again.


Care to share the consulting fee?




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Re: per-interface default routes?

[Mark Messier]

>> Route has more information if you want to setup default routes  
for interfaces.


I'm familiar with route(8)... but I don't see how that will work.
Can you expand on your comment?

I'm  likely to do the ipfw approach suggested by Wojceich,
as soon as I rebuild with "options IPFIREWALL_FORWARD",

Thanks,
-mark

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Re: FreeBSD laptop computer

[Alexandre Vieira]

On 3/14/07, Wojciech Puchar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


i need to buy new notebook for personal use.

Could you give me an advice what will be actually FULLY supported by
FreeBSD.

Other needs are:

a) low price
b) high reliability
c) long battery run

processing power and extra peripherals are not important, even slower NEW
laptops are much more powerful that me needs.

Especially WiFi is unneeded, LAN will be OK but it's not a problem to
attach one.

thank you very much
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Hi,

I dont know about other laptops, just the one I own. It's an acer 1644WLMi.
It's supported completely by freebsd. I bought it 1yr ago, now it should be
very cheap. It has a 2.0ghz Centrino (Pentium M), 1GB RAM DDR, a 120GB
5200rpm disk, WiFi, USBx4, Intel High definition audio, Intel GMA 945 128MB,
battery used to hold for more than 2hr in working mode.

There's only a couple of things that you'll need to tweak:

1) snd_hda doesn't come in 6_RELENG.Check the multimedia mailing list to
learn how to get it working (everything works great, speaker, line, mic,
etc..)
2) The ACPI implementation has a couple of bytecodes fsckd up. You need to
fix it and load the modified  AML. Check the acpi mailing list to get some
help on correcting this minor issue.

Cheers
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Re: per-interface default routes?

[Alexandre Biancalana]

On 3/14/07, Mark Messier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


>> Route has more information if you want to setup default routes
for interfaces.

I'm familiar with route(8)... but I don't see how that will work.
Can you expand on your comment?

I'm  likely to do the ipfw approach suggested by Wojceich,
as soon as I rebuild with "options IPFIREWALL_FORWARD",



This could be done with pf  route-to too.
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Re: per-interface default routes?

[Wojciech Puchar]

interfaces.


I'm familiar with route(8)... but I don't see how that will work.
Can you expand on your comment?

I'm  likely to do the ipfw approach suggested by Wojceich,
as soon as I rebuild with "options IPFIREWALL_FORWARD",

exactly, sorry i forgot to mention about that option.
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Re: No matter what I try I can't get Nvidia 3d acceleration to work. Please help!

[hxc]

Tore Lund wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

Chris Slothouber wrote:


What version of FreeBSD are you currently running.
  


Sorry for pressing the point, but it seems you have not yet told us
which version of FreeBSD you are running.

  
/Darn this looks pretty complicated  :-P  



In that case, it may be simpler to just back up a few directories and
install the latest version from scratch.
  
Hello all. I am afraid I have to throw in the towel. I tried updating 
FreeBSD 6.2 to stable  and ran into several problems. After a weeks 
worth of fiddling to get my Nvidia drivers working I decided it's not 
worth it to invest more time. I am heading back to Gentoo Linux. Thanks 
all, your help has been really appreciated :-)

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Apache 2.2.4 with mod_ssl start up problem

[Drew Marshall]

Hi

I am running 6.0 on i386 and have updated apache22 with the latest  
and greatest from my cvsup'ed ports tree (I also think openssl was  
updated to the latest beta 0.9.8e, which might be connected or maybe  
not...)


All went fine until I have come to restart Apache when I get this error:

httpd: Syntax error on line 83 of /usr/local/etc/apache22/httpd.conf:  
Cannot load /usr/local/libexec/apache22/mod_ssl.so into server: /usr/ 
local/libexec/apache22/mod_ssl.so: Undefined symbol  
"SSL_CTX_set_info_callback"


Well line 83 is the module load line in httpd.conf and has always  
been there, so I think that's a red herring. I have done a large  
amount of Googleing and come across similar people with similar  
problems, one of which was not answered, one of which was fixed by a  
re-install from port (Which I have done twice now so I don't think  
that's it) and one that was in German. Now my German is  
embarrassingly bad and you can't get a decent translation when it  
comes to problem fixing so I am not much wiser except it was  
suggesting something about a linked library, ldd and something in a *. 
4.so version of a library but that's about all I could grasp :-(


Can any one shed any light as to which FM I need to R so I can RTFM  
or what I can do to fix this.


Many thanks

Drew


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Have screwed up my longin and password

[Roger Scow]

I am totally new to FreeBSD, and have installed it and Gnome2/X11.   
Somewhere in the process I have either corrupted or lost my password  
and user name access.  When I try to log into Gnome, either as root  
or as username, it is a no go.


I know that I set up myself as a user, and set a root password when I  
was installing.


What do I do now?  Can I restart from the install CD and go back into  
Sysinstall?


I'm running FreeBSD 6.2 on a Macbook Pro, via Parallels Desktop.

Thanks very much and sorry for such a stupid predicament.

Roger
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Re: per-interface default routes?

[Wojciech Puchar]

I'm  likely to do the ipfw approach suggested by Wojceich,
as soon as I rebuild with "options IPFIREWALL_FORWARD",



This could be done with pf  route-to too.


yes. but ipfw is most universal having all needed things at one place.
firewalling, routing, shaping, etc.
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sendmail not working?

[Laszlo Nagy]

 Hi All,

Got a problem with FreeBSD 6.2 (upgraded from 6.1): cron is not sending 
out e-mails. However, it is running:


messias# ps ax | grep cron
988  ??  Ss 0:01.86 /usr/sbin/cron -s

But, if I write this into the crontab of root:

SHELL=/bin/csh
* * * * * echo "Test"


then I do not get any e-mail. This machine has an ssh tunnel that 
forwards TCP/25 port to another machine. Postfix is installed on this 
machine, but it is not enabled. I believe that sendmail should work for 
local addresses, even if the SMTP server is not listening locally. At 
least, sendmail(8) tells this:



  With  no  flags, sendmail reads its standard input up to an 
end-of-file
  or a line consisting only of a single dot and sends a copy of 
the  mes-
  sage  found  there  to  all of the addresses listed.  It 
determines the

  network(s) to use based on the syntax and contents of the addresses.

  Local addresses are looked up in  a  file  and  aliased  
appropriately.



Here is a quick test that I did:

messias# sendmail gandalf
Test2
.
messias# mail
Mail version 8.1 6/6/93.  Type ? for help.
"/var/mail/gandalf": 1 message
>   1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Fri Nov 10 12:27  13/664   "DON'T DELETE 
THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA"

&

I have many scripts that I would like to run from cron. Probably they 
throw errors, but I have no clue what are those errors, because I'm not 
getting mails from cron. What should I do?


Another question: is it possible to setup cron so that it uses a 
different SMTP server for sending e-mails? If so, can I specify this for 
one user only? Well, the obvious solution would be to create a special 
user and create a .forward file, right?


Thanks in advance,

  Laszlo

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Re: per-interface default routes?

[Alexandre Biancalana]

On 3/14/07, Wojciech Puchar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


>> I'm  likely to do the ipfw approach suggested by Wojceich,
>> as soon as I rebuild with "options IPFIREWALL_FORWARD",
>
>
> This could be done with pf  route-to too.

yes. but ipfw is most universal having all needed things at one place.
firewalling, routing, shaping, etc.




PF too. is all at same place.
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Re: sendmail not working?

[Derek Ragona]

You need to make sure sendmail is starting and running.  Check your rc.conf 
and any variables that might need to be set.


-Derek


At 03:58 PM 3/14/2007, Laszlo Nagy wrote:


 Hi All,

Got a problem with FreeBSD 6.2 (upgraded from 6.1): cron is not sending 
out e-mails. However, it is running:


messias# ps ax | grep cron
988  ??  Ss 0:01.86 /usr/sbin/cron -s

But, if I write this into the crontab of root:

SHELL=/bin/csh
* * * * * echo "Test"


then I do not get any e-mail. This machine has an ssh tunnel that forwards 
TCP/25 port to another machine. Postfix is installed on this machine, but 
it is not enabled. I believe that sendmail should work for local 
addresses, even if the SMTP server is not listening locally. At least, 
sendmail(8) tells this:



  With  no  flags, sendmail reads its standard input up to an end-of-file
  or a line consisting only of a single dot and sends a copy of the  mes-
  sage  found  there  to  all of the addresses listed.  It determines the
  network(s) to use based on the syntax and contents of the addresses.

  Local addresses are looked up in  a  file  and  aliased
appropriately.


Here is a quick test that I did:

messias# sendmail gandalf
Test2
.
messias# mail
Mail version 8.1 6/6/93.  Type ? for help.
"/var/mail/gandalf": 1 message
>   1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Fri Nov 10 12:27  13/664   "DON'T DELETE THIS 
MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA"

&

I have many scripts that I would like to run from cron. Probably they 
throw errors, but I have no clue what are those errors, because I'm not 
getting mails from cron. What should I do?


Another question: is it possible to setup cron so that it uses a different 
SMTP server for sending e-mails? If so, can I specify this for one user 
only? Well, the obvious solution would be to create a special user and 
create a .forward file, right?


Thanks in advance,

  Laszlo

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Re: sendmail not working?

[Nagy László Zsolt]

Derek Ragona wrote
You need to make sure sendmail is starting and running.  Check your 
rc.conf and any variables that might need to be set.

Thanks!

In my rc.conf:

sendmail_enable="NO"

However, as I wrote, I was using postfix. I'm not a big guru but I 
believe that postfix has its own daemon and it has a sendmail binary 
that is compatible with the system default sendmail.


Anyway, your comment helped me a lot! I upgraded to 6.2 some weeks ago 
and probably I did not reactivate postfix in /etc/mail/mailer.conf. 
Additionally, probably I forgot to merge the old mailer.conf with the 
new one. I changed my rc.conf to this:


sendmail_enable="NO"
postfix_enable="YES"

Then I started postfix:

messias# /usr/local/etc/rc.d/postfix start
postfix/postfix-script: starting the Postfix mail system
messias# ps ax | grep postf
68249  ??  Ss 0:00.01 /usr/local/libexec/postfix/master

Yet I still do not get my emails:

messias# mail gandalf
Subject: Test3
.
EOT
Null message body; hope that's ok
messias# mail
Mail version 8.1 6/6/93.  Type ? for help.
"/var/mail/gandalf": 1 message
>   1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Fri Nov 10 12:27  13/664   "DON'T DELETE 
THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA"

& q
messias# sendmail gandalf
Test4.
.
messias# mail
Mail version 8.1 6/6/93.  Type ? for help.
"/var/mail/gandalf": 1 message
>   1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Fri Nov 10 12:27  13/664   "DON'T DELETE 
THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA"

& q

Pawing in the dark...

  Laszlo

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Re: sendmail not working?

[Derek Ragona]

Postfix is the mail transfer agent, or MTA.  That means it does the local 
delivery.  In a sendmail only server you have two instances of sendmail 
running one to send the mail, one as the MTA.  You need at least one running.


-Derek


At 04:23 PM 3/14/2007, Nagy László Zsolt wrote:

Derek Ragona wrote
You need to make sure sendmail is starting and running.  Check your 
rc.conf and any variables that might need to be set.

Thanks!

In my rc.conf:

sendmail_enable="NO"

However, as I wrote, I was using postfix. I'm not a big guru but I believe 
that postfix has its own daemon and it has a sendmail binary that is 
compatible with the system default sendmail.


Anyway, your comment helped me a lot! I upgraded to 6.2 some weeks ago and 
probably I did not reactivate postfix in /etc/mail/mailer.conf. 
Additionally, probably I forgot to merge the old mailer.conf with the new 
one. I changed my rc.conf to this:


sendmail_enable="NO"
postfix_enable="YES"

Then I started postfix:

messias# /usr/local/etc/rc.d/postfix start
postfix/postfix-script: starting the Postfix mail system
messias# ps ax | grep postf
68249  ??  Ss 0:00.01 /usr/local/libexec/postfix/master

Yet I still do not get my emails:

messias# mail gandalf
Subject: Test3
.
EOT
Null message body; hope that's ok
messias# mail
Mail version 8.1 6/6/93.  Type ? for help.
"/var/mail/gandalf": 1 message
>   1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Fri Nov 10 12:27  13/664   "DON'T DELETE THIS 
MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA"

& q
messias# sendmail gandalf
Test4.
.
messias# mail
Mail version 8.1 6/6/93.  Type ? for help.
"/var/mail/gandalf": 1 message
>   1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Fri Nov 10 12:27  13/664   "DON'T DELETE THIS 
MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA"

& q

Pawing in the dark...

  Laszlo


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sound drivers

[freenity]

Helo.
Im new to FreeBSD and need some help. I have installed FreeBSD
6.2-RELEASEfor amd64. I have a 18n-vm mother board. And the problem is
with its onboard
sound card. It seems that its not detected. I tried to use kldload snd_ich
but it didnt helped.
The output of cat /dev/sndstat is>


$ cat /dev/sndstat
FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm)
Installed devices:
$

Thanks for any help.

Anton.
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Re: sendmail not working?

[Gerard Seibert]

On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 22:23:32 +0100
Nagy László Zsolt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Derek Ragona wrote
> > You need to make sure sendmail is starting and running.  Check your 
> > rc.conf and any variables that might need to be set.  
> Thanks!
> 
> In my rc.conf:
> 
> sendmail_enable="NO"
> 
> However, as I wrote, I was using postfix. I'm not a big guru but I 
> believe that postfix has its own daemon and it has a sendmail binary 
> that is compatible with the system default sendmail.
> 
> Anyway, your comment helped me a lot! I upgraded to 6.2 some weeks
> ago and probably I did not reactivate postfix
> in /etc/mail/mailer.conf. Additionally, probably I forgot to merge
> the old mailer.conf with the new one. I changed my rc.conf to this:
> 
> sendmail_enable="NO"
> postfix_enable="YES"
> 
> Then I started postfix:

You haven't configured it correctly.

To enable postfix startup script please add postfix_enable="YES" in
your rc.conf

If you not need Sendmail anymore, please add in your rc.conf:

sendmail_enable="NO"
sendmail_submit_enable="NO"
sendmail_outbound_enable="NO"
sendmail_msp_queue_enable="NO"

And you can disable some sendmail specific daily maintenance routines
in your /etc/periodic.conf file:

daily_clean_hoststat_enable="NO"
daily_status_mail_rejects_enable="NO"
daily_status_include_submit_mailq="NO"
daily_submit_queuerun="NO"

You also need to modify the /etc/mail/mailer.conf file. This is done
automatically by postfix. If your version is not current, you might
want to update it. That will insure that the mailer.conf file is
properly updated. Be sure to get a fresh copy of the ports tree
before updating. Guessing and putting in the wrong information can get
you into trouble. You should also probably reboot after making all of
the changes to insure that everything starts correctly and that
'Sendmail' is totally shut down.

Ciao!

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Re: FreeBSD laptop computer

[Giorgos Keramidas]

On 2007-03-14 20:14, Wojciech Puchar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i need to buy new notebook for personal use.
> 
> Could you give me an advice what will be actually FULLY supported by 
> FreeBSD.
> 
> Other needs are:
> 
> a) low price
> b) high reliability
> c) long battery run
>
> processing power and extra peripherals are not important, even slower NEW 
> laptops are much more powerful that me needs.
> 
> Especially WiFi is unneeded, LAN will be OK but it's not a problem to 
> attach one.

I'm running CURRENT on a Toshiba Satellite U200.

There's a minor catch-22 with these laptops, because their internal fxp0
NIC is not yet supported by RELENG_6, but it works fine on CVS HEAD.
So, to install CURRENT on it, I had to bootstrap from a snapshot from
ftp.freebsd.org.

Another minor nit is that I haven't really tried a lot to get the
internal Intel-based WiFi adapter to work.  I have a D-Link DWL-AG650
(H/W Ver: B2) PC-Card, which is Atheros-based and works like a charm.

The snd_hda driver supports the audio chipset of this laptop quite
nicely, and Ariff has committed to CURRENT a patch which fixes a minor
glitch (plugging in head-phones wouldn't turn the speakers off).

All in all, this has been an excellent buy for me, and I'm planning to
bump the physical memory to 1GB or more "real soon now" :)

Battery-life is almost 3 hours, which is probably short for some of the
more modern laptops.  I haven't tested using the same laptop with one of
the special Toshiba batteries, though.

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Re: sound drivers

[Pieter de Goeje]

On Wednesday 14 March 2007 22:18, freenity wrote:
> Helo.
> Im new to FreeBSD and need some help. I have installed FreeBSD
> 6.2-RELEASEfor amd64. I have a 18n-vm mother board. And the problem is
> with its onboard
> sound card. It seems that its not detected. I tried to use kldload snd_ich
> but it didnt helped.
> The output of cat /dev/sndstat is>
>
>
> $ cat /dev/sndstat
> FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm)
> Installed devices:
> $
Please post the output of:
pciconf -vl | grep -B 4 audio

- Pieter de Goeje
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Re: sound drivers

[Miguel Alcántara]

This works for me:

$kldload snd_driver
$cat /dev/sndstat

then you will see the correct sound driver, and add that in
/boot/loader.conf

my case:

ofuscado# kldload snd_driver


ofuscado# cat /dev/sndstat
FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm)
Installed devices:
pcm0:  at io 0xd800, 0xdc40 irq 17 bufsz 16384 kld
snd_ich (1p/1r/0v channels duplex default)


ofuscado# cat /boot/loader.conf
snd_ich_load="YES"






On 3/14/07, freenity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Helo.
Im new to FreeBSD and need some help. I have installed FreeBSD
6.2-RELEASEfor amd64. I have a 18n-vm mother board. And the problem is
with its onboard
sound card. It seems that its not detected. I tried to use kldload snd_ich
but it didnt helped.
The output of cat /dev/sndstat is>


$ cat /dev/sndstat
FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm)
Installed devices:
$

Thanks for any help.

Anton.
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Re: sound drivers

[freenity]

Thanks for answers.

kldload snd_driver didnt help.

and pciconf -vl | grep -B 4 audio doesnt output anything.
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Re: why can't i turn off fast_time? [ success w/ post_mortem ]

[spellberg_robert]

greetings, all ---

i've been meaning to write a whole lot sooner.
too many non_maskable interrupts.

thank you, matthew.
thank you, duane.

as it eventuated,
  i spent all day for four days, mar_01_thu through 04_sun,
  working on this.
most of the results occurred thursday,
  but i wound up being snowed in on friday,
  most of which i spent hacking.
saturday and sunday were spent refining and
  exploring source for use in alternative solutions
  to be implemented "when i have some free time".



duane ---

the solution you proposed is perfect.
further, it is truly elegant.
i only spent about three minutes on it thursday night.
after all of the various things that i had tried,
  it is the approach that i chose to implement.



matthew ---

i recognized your name from other sources in my possession,
  so i was heartened to see you respond.
although your solution did not exactly address the problem as stated,
  it was sufficiently close to something that i had tried
  that i chose to work with it first.

i will summarize.

i selected a victim^H^H^H^H^H^Htest machine.
my /etc/localtime [ well, the last one i left there last summer ]
  was .../Etc/Europe/London.
my TZ was set to "gmt0".
i rebooted and verified that the mobo was on utc.

i removed TZ.
i copied Factory, London,
  New_York, Indianapolis, Chicago, Denver, Phoenix, Los_Angeles,
  UTC, GMT, GMT+5, GMT+6, GMT+7 and GMT+8 to /etc,
  giving them names that are substantially similar,
  but which start with "localtime." for the benefit of "ls -a l*".
i would reboot frequently to check the mobo clock and
  to set the date to march or june.
rebooting also let me verify the timestamps being logged, in real time,
  during startup and shutdown.
i think these use /etc/localtime but not TZ.
i stopped rebooting once i verified what date(1) did to the mobo clock.

i discovered that /bin/tcsh
  resets the timestamp "percent_escapes"
  for its prompt variable only at login,
  while date(1) checks on each invocation.
i believe this to be a major source of my confusion.
i believe another source was
  not making a distinction between "date" and "date -u"
  [ i thought i was in utc, but maybe i wasn't always ? ].
further, to me, utc is local time and the other zones are all remote time.
however, these routines think the user's zone time is local and
  utc is remote.
also, to me, chicago is london MINUS six.
einstein was right; it's all about one's frame_of_reference.

i did most of my testing with Chicago, GMT+6, GMT and UTC,
  with winter and summer dates.
once i was satisfied, i copied GMT+6 to a new file i named CST.
using vi, i changed the string to "CST" and the length to four.
it's a good thing the length wasn't ten [ hey, it's a kloodge ].
thoughtfully, vi added the "missing" newline at the end of the "line".
checking the source for localtime(3),
  i don't believe the extra byte will be a problem.
i'll fix this "when i have some free time".
while localtime(3) itself checks /etc/localtime,
  i get the idea to create a routine that will
  read other files in "localtime format",
  so that i can have utc, local standard time, local legal time and
  [ thanks to a messy formula in
  dershowitz and reingold, "calendrical calculations",
  cambridge press, 1997
  ]
  apparent solar time [ woo_hoo !!! ],
  all at the same time.

i hacked similar files for EST, MST and PST.
all of these have names beginning with "/etc/localtime.".
then, i "ln -f" to the file of interest.
later, looking at the link count,
  i can see immediately which file is /etc/localtime.
three examples of my naming convention
  [ i'm big on filename completion, e. g., "l*zm6" ]:
  /etc/localtime.m6_.usz.etc.gmt+6.zm6
  /etc/localtime.m6a.usz.america.chicago.zm6a
  /etc/localtime.m6h.cst.zm6h
"usz" is short for "usr/share/zoneinfo".
"h" is the hacked file.
"zm" is "zulu minus".
i also added a file "/etc/localtime.readme.r",
  wherein i explained all of this to myself.

for the record, i have stopped using TZ.
now i know how to do "localtime format" files,
  so i don't think i need it.
i never used tzsetup(8).

i confess that there --was-- some serendipity.
for example,
  about midway through thursday,
  the most productive question i asked myself was,
  "why is this off by seven hours when it should be off by five?".
if matthew had told me "GMT" instead of "GMT+6",
  i would have been +/- an hour around zero hours
  instead of being around six hours.
then, i would have chalked it up to being
  backwards instead of forwards
  instead of
  forwards instead of backwards
  [ or is it the other way around ? ].

i think the reason the existing documentation is insufficiently clear
  [ and i went through a lot of it ! ]
  is because the authors assume
  [ correctly, for the overwhelming majority of people ]
  that the user wants their timestamps in local legal time.
when an eccentric like me comes along wanting to do something unanticipated
  [ i don't set my clock ahead, the outside world starts "run

Re: binary patches?

[Gary Kline]

On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 05:07:43PM +0100, Gabor Kovesdan wrote:
> Gary Kline schrieb:
> > Regarding most (or many) of the port changes--say, upgrading
> > foo-2.1.9_5 to foo-2.1.9_6, if  the upgrade could be done by
> > downloading a binary diff file, could the resulting
> > /usr/local/bin/foo-2.1.9_6 be achieved by downloading a 
> > relatively small binary patch?  Seems to me that smaller scale
> > upgrades could be done this way in preference to re-compiling
> > ports or downloading entire pacakes.  --Same would go for any
> > dependencies.
> >
> > Why is this a bad idea!
> >
> > gary
> >  
> The final form of actual binaries depend on a lot of things, e.g. which 
> version of dependency you compiled with, which CFLAGS you have used, 
> what options the port you built it. Some of these applies to packages as 
> well, that's why I prefer ports over packages at all. E.g. let's see 
> lang/php5. It does not have the apache module enabled by default. If it 
> were, then the problem comes up with Apache versions. IIRC, 2.2 is the 
> default now, but what if you use 2.0? How would you install php for your 
> apache version from package? The situtation has been already pretty 
> complicated with packages if you have higher needs for fine tuning, but 
> you can use them if you don't have special needs. Binary diffs would be 
> so complicated that I think this way we could really not follow.
> 
> If you need simplicity at all, use portupgrade with packages. It has an 
> option (don't remember which one) you can use to make it fetch packages 
> instead of building from source. Nowadays, this network traffic should 
> not be a real problem, I think.
> 

You've brought up a lot of things I didn't consider; this was
part of the reason for my post.  It seems to me that there would
need to be some simple ground rules from the binary patches I'm
got in mind.  The *default* CFLAGS in the port would match those 
in the patch is one place to start. 

Obviously, this could get way out of hand very quickly.  Two of
my slowest servers (one 400MHz, 192M RAM) were rebuilding parts
of the KDE suite; the new kdelib-3.5.6 [??] just finished and I
already scp'd it over to my more beefy platform.  Once I've got 
all my servers up to date, it may not be that hard to keep them
current.  You're right that bandwidth isn't a problem--um, in
most places {{ clearing my throat! }}.  Bandwidth isn't the main
issue.  It's time.  

cheers!

gary


> Regards,
> Gabor
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Re: sound drivers

[Pietro Cerutti]

On 3/14/07, freenity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Thanks for answers.

kldload snd_driver didnt help.

and pciconf -vl | grep -B 4 audio doesnt output anything.


try with
pciconf -vl | grep -iB 4 audio
or
pciconf -vl 1 grep -iB 4 multimedia

sometimes the class is multimedia, or [Aa]udio is included in the name
of the device..



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Re: sound drivers

[Chuck Swiger]

On Mar 14, 2007, at 3:56 PM, freenity wrote:

Thanks for answers.

kldload snd_driver didnt help.

and pciconf -vl | grep -B 4 audio doesnt output anything.


That implies that nothing recognized as an audio device has been  
configured by your BIOS.  You might want to double-check your BIOS  
settings and make sure that the on-board sound is enabled, and/or  
check for a BIOS update


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Re: sound drivers

[freenity]

yes multimedia worked. output:


$ pciconf -vl | grep -iB 4 multimedia
   class= bridge
   subclass = PCI-PCI
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:16:1:   class=0x040300 card=0xcb8410de chip=0x026c10de
rev=0xa2 hdr=0x00
   vendor   = 'NVIDIA Corporation'
   class= multimedia
$
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Re: binary patches?

[Gary Kline]

On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 12:29:58PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Mar 2007, Fabian Keil wrote:
> 
> >Wojciech Puchar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>>   Regarding most (or many) of the port changes--say, upgrading
> >>>   foo-2.1.9_5 to foo-2.1.9_6, if  the upgrade could be done by
> >>>   downloading a binary diff file, could the resulting
> >>>   /usr/local/bin/foo-2.1.9_6 be achieved by downloading a
> >>>   relatively small binary patch?  Seems to me that smaller scale
> >>>   upgrades could be done this way in preference to re-compiling
> >>>   ports or downloading entire pacakes.  --Same would go for any
> >>>   dependencies.
> >>>
> >>>   Why is this a bad idea!
> >>>
> >>because if you change say 5 lines in program source of  1MB binary
> >>program, resulting new 1MB binary will be MUCH different
> >>byte-by-byte mostly because of address shifting so lots of pointers to
> >>code (or data, rodata)  will change. so diff will be big.
> >
> >Is that a guess or did you actually test and verify this?
> >
> >Fabian
> 
> Well, this can be done by diffing two different copies of a similar binary. 
> Frankly, binary patches should be done thought IMHO because like Wojciech 
> mentioned the differences would be huge.
> 
> Besides, the patches aren't portable, so the program would have to be 
> recompiled in the target arch, diffed, then put to a patch file. This as a 
> hunch / gut feeling I have, but the majority of the patches produced using 
> this method would soon approach the original packages size (assuming that 
> there were changes over the entire package and not a portion of it).


All valid points.  How far the idea of patches goes would clearly
depend on how many type/flavors of patches there were and how
many version.  I've crom things to update daily, so for me, the
max-diffs would be 2.  Using "foo" above: if I had foo-2.1.9_5
and somehow missed _6 and _7, too bad; a rebuild or package download
would be needed.  The main thing (as I understand the issue)
would be the size of the patch.  A small reorg of binary can 
mean a large patch... .


> 
> If you're thinking of creating a hotfix system though, that would be a good 
> idea (assuming everything's dynamically linked as opposed to statically 
> linked). When M$ moved their patch release infrastructure to their current 
> smaller one, update sizes did decrease by a fairly large amount (2-3+ 
> times?). The only thing is that keeping track of versions becomes an 
> important thing and making sure that you have all the successive patches in 
> a line becomes a mess--hence, you have to go to the Windows update site 
> multiple times to update one Windows component, like .NET 1.1 for instance.


Yep.  I (may) know somebody at M$ who says that they've got
headaches that a million Exceedrin wouldn't help.  A friend tried
to patch his recent XP to get the new daylight time.  He gave up
after an hour of ping-ponging around.

gary


> 
> Just a few thoughts on the topic.
> -Garrett
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Did I take the wrong bus with FreeBSD 6 to VMware?

[Robert Eckardt]

Hi,

for some time I'm trying to get FreeBSD 6 running on my server 
as a host for VMware and several other functions.

I'm using a 1.7GHz Pentium M 735 on an AOpen i855GMEm-LFS mobo 
w/ USB, VGA, 2xGbit/s, 2xPATA channels etc. on board.
I used to run FBSD-5.2.1 with vmware3 on an Epox mobo w/ a 2GHz 
Celeron without problems.
After changing HW (mobo, CPU, HDD) and OS (FBSD6.0) I found the 
system to "freeze" upon accessing an USB device when vmware was 
running. 
So my first investigations led to its driver, but in some cases 
heavy disk I/O was sufficient to cause a freeze.

Since the situation got worse with FreeBSD 6.2 I started to work 
on it more systematically and found the following (actually I was 
on the verge to switch to Linux CentOS 4.4 or OpenSUSE 10.2 with 
VMware Server running nicely, but the HD and network performance 
were disappointing):

1)**ACPI off, "Assign USB IRQ" disabled in BIOS, vmware3 started:
vmware3 runs fine, but no USB devices.

2)**ACPI off, "Assign USB IRQ" enabled in BIOS, vmware3 started:
system "freezes" with network connections breaking, endless 
messages
ad2: WARNING: - SETFEATURES SET TRANSFER MODE taskqueue timeout - completing
request directly
ad2: WARNING: - SETFEATURES SET TRANSFER MODE taskqueue timeout - completing
request directly
ad2: WARNING: - SETFEATURES ENABLE RCACHE taskqueue timeout - completing
request directly
ad2: WARNING: - SETFEATURES ENABLE WCACHE taskqueue timeout - completing
request directly
ad2: WARNING: - SET_MULTI taskq.
ad2: FAILURE [or TIMEOUT] - WRITE:DMA timed out [or retrying] LBA=
g_vs_done():ad2s1e[WRITE(offset=, length=)]error = 5
typing reboot will finally reboot the system after several hours,
nothing in the logs though.

3)**ACPI off, "Assign USB IRQ" enabled in BIOS, additional PCI-VGA 
card installed, using either PCI-VGA *or* on-board VGA, vmware3 
started:
vmware3 runs fine, also when accessing the USB device.

4)**ACPI on, "Assign USB IRQ" enabled in BIOS, additional PCI-VGA card 
installed, using on-board VGA, vmware3 started:
system "freezes" with messages above.

So, what's the relation between the scenarios?
Where can I tweak the system to get it stable?

Since I spend already several man-days on getting VMware running 
on my machine, I would like to help further debugging by making 
additional tests, but I don't know where to start.

I can live without ACPI (for the time being) -- the old system 
consumes 125W while the Pentium M machine stays at 42W with ACPI 
taking about another 8W in idle-state.
For me it seems essential why enabling/disabling USB in the BIOS 
or adding an additional PCI-VGA card stabilizes the system and 
why the unstable system behaves the same way like with enabling 
ACPI.

I put some boot_verbose-logs on http://www.robert-eckardt.de/ghost/

Regards,
Robert

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Re: Don't buy AMD products (was Re: Xorg and ATI card query.)

[Louis Kowolowski]

On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 11:55:20AM -0400, Sean Bryant wrote:
...
> Try the 'vesa' xorg driver. It may not be fancy or all that accelerated 
> but it works quite well. I have an nvidia card and cannot get it to work 
> for the life of me. the drive attached, but nothing happens after that. 
> It might be the fact that I have a PCI express card. But the vesa driver 
> is working just fine for me.
>
On a Thinkpad T60p, using the vesa driver using GLGears, I get a little 
better than 30fps at 1600x1200x32 on a 15" display.

Good enough for me.
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Re: binary patches?

[Beech Rintoul]

On Wednesday 14 March 2007 15:00, Gary Kline said:
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 05:07:43PM +0100, Gabor Kovesdan wrote:
> > Gary Kline schrieb:
> > >   Regarding most (or many) of the port changes--say, upgrading
> > >   foo-2.1.9_5 to foo-2.1.9_6, if  the upgrade could be done by
> > >   downloading a binary diff file, could the resulting
> > >   /usr/local/bin/foo-2.1.9_6 be achieved by downloading a
> > >   relatively small binary patch?  Seems to me that smaller scale
> > >   upgrades could be done this way in preference to re-compiling
> > >   ports or downloading entire pacakes.  --Same would go for any
> > >   dependencies.
> > >
> > >   Why is this a bad idea!
> > >
> > >   gary
> >
> > The final form of actual binaries depend on a lot of things, e.g.
> > which version of dependency you compiled with, which CFLAGS you
> > have used, what options the port you built it. Some of these
> > applies to packages as well, that's why I prefer ports over
> > packages at all. E.g. let's see lang/php5. It does not have the
> > apache module enabled by default. If it were, then the problem
> > comes up with Apache versions. IIRC, 2.2 is the default now, but
> > what if you use 2.0? How would you install php for your apache
> > version from package? The situtation has been already pretty
> > complicated with packages if you have higher needs for fine
> > tuning, but you can use them if you don't have special needs.
> > Binary diffs would be so complicated that I think this way we
> > could really not follow.
> >
> > If you need simplicity at all, use portupgrade with packages. It
> > has an option (don't remember which one) you can use to make it
> > fetch packages instead of building from source. Nowadays, this
> > network traffic should not be a real problem, I think.
>
>   You've brought up a lot of things I didn't consider; this was
>   part of the reason for my post.  It seems to me that there would
>   need to be some simple ground rules from the binary patches I'm
>   got in mind.  The *default* CFLAGS in the port would match those
>   in the patch is one place to start.
>
>   Obviously, this could get way out of hand very quickly.  Two of
>   my slowest servers (one 400MHz, 192M RAM) were rebuilding parts
>   of the KDE suite; the new kdelib-3.5.6 [??] just finished and I
>   already scp'd it over to my more beefy platform.  Once I've got
>   all my servers up to date, it may not be that hard to keep them
>   current.  You're right that bandwidth isn't a problem--um, in
>   most places {{ clearing my throat! }}.  Bandwidth isn't the main
>   issue.  It's time.
>
>   cheers!
>
>   gary
>
> > Regards,
> > Gabor

This issue comes up about every six months. If you google the mailing 
list you will find extensive discussion about why binary upgrades are 
a bad idea. If you want to upgrade using packages only 
use 'portupgrade -PP'. Bear in mind it takes the package build 
cluster a couple of weeks to catch up. For security reasons we 
(maintainers) don't build packages and building binaries for every 
possible configuration would place an extreme load on the build 
cluster (not to mention the space required to host them all).

Beech

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Re: Have screwed up my longin and password

[Jeremy Gransden]

On 3/14/07, Roger Scow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I am totally new to FreeBSD, and have installed it and Gnome2/X11.
Somewhere in the process I have either corrupted or lost my password
and user name access.  When I try to log into Gnome, either as root
or as username, it is a no go.

I know that I set up myself as a user, and set a root password when I
was installing.

What do I do now?  Can I restart from the install CD and go back into
Sysinstall?

I'm running FreeBSD 6.2 on a Macbook Pro, via Parallels Desktop.

Thanks very much and sorry for such a stupid predicament.

Roger
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try these instructions

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/admin.html#FORGOT-ROOT-PW

also see this for changing your other passwords

http://freebsd.active-venture.com/handbook/users-modifying.html

especially section 8.6.4 example 8-7
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Re: Have screwed up my longin and password

[Kelly D. Grills]

On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 03:21:04PM -0500, Roger Scow wrote:
> 
> I am totally new to FreeBSD, and have installed it and Gnome2/X11.   
> Somewhere in the process I have either corrupted or lost my password  
> and user name access.  When I try to log into Gnome, either as root  
> or as username, it is a no go.
> 
> I know that I set up myself as a user, and set a root password when I  
> was installing.
> 
> What do I do now?  Can I restart from the install CD and go back into  
> Sysinstall?
> 

You're not the first, see:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/admin.html#FORGOT-ROOT-PW


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Ipod Nano doesn't connect

[Tobias Roth]

Hi

I tried connecting my Ipod Nano 8GB via USB to my -STABLE box. No umass
or ugen device shows up, nothing happens when I connect it. All the USB
stuff is in the kernel, other usb mass devices (cameras, usb sticks)
work like a charm. I tried with GENERIC as well, nothing. Is there a
trick, some setting on the Ipod maybe, to make it act like a disk drive?

Thanks,
Tobias
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moving binary port as installed from one system to another (openoffice.org-2 amd64)

[Steve Franks]

No idea why there isn't an openoffice pkg yet for 6.2/amd64, but some
of us are running that on laptops, not servers, and we like to do
things like edit documents.

Broke down and built the port, which took about 24 hours (after I
found & installed all dependent packages [built dependencies for a
couple days before that]), but it went well and functions.  I'd really
like to skip doing that on my other system, however.

So, is there a standard description of what files, folders, etc, make
up a package, other than the makefile, such that I can copy openoffice
to my other machine(s)?

For that matter, is there a standardized way to build a pkg from a
port, or is that entirely up to the port maintainer?

See where I'm headed?  Or am I hopelessly naive?

Steve
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