Re: Installing on large disk

2007-03-26 Thread Andriy Babiy
On March 25, 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 John C Nolen wrote:
  I have a 40 GB hard disk that was made in 2001 with windows xp
  installed on a 20 GB partition. BIOS setup says 19158 cylinders, 16
  heads and 255 sectors.
  I want to install freeBSD on the second 20 GB partition. All the
  instructions seem to refer to small disks, as they appear to require
  cylinders less than 1023.
  Sysinstall appears to require cylinders less than 1023. Did I miss
  something?
  Is it possible to install BSD as a dual operating system with windows
  xp on a disk larger than 8 GB ?
  Am I trying to do something impossible?
  Should I just ignore warnings and type in 1023 when asked about
  cylinders?
  If I uninstall the windows xp can I put freeBSD on one big 40GB
  partition?
  I could not find any information on this in handbook or FAQ.

 Yes, just ignore the cylinder warnings..

 Interesting thing is that I never got those and I have installed FBSD on
 multiple 80GB disks :).

 -Garrett

I had this problem a long time ago, when the FreeBSD 3.3 was current. Those 
instructions refer to those days I think. Do you install 6.2? Where are 
you asked to type the cylinder info? What kind of an installation do you 
do? Usually, defaults in sysinstall would be fine.

Andriy
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RE: ELF binary type unknown

2007-03-26 Thread Alain Fabry
 
Problem solved, reinstalled linux_base-fc4 from portThanks,
Alain Fabry 

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 26 Mar 
 2007 00:11:45 -0500 Subject: ELF binary type unknown  Hello, I'm trying to 
 install citrix_ica from port but I get the following error during the 
 install.I've also have a problem when I configure linux_enable=yes in the 
 rc.conf file. My system crashes during boot at that time. When I remove this 
 linux_enable all boots fine. Running FreeBSD duc-748# uname -aFreeBSD 
 yy 6.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE #1: Sun Mar 25 21:31:00 CEST 2007 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/DUC-748 i386duc-748# brandelf -l 
 known ELF types are: FreeBSD(9) Linux(3) Solaris(6) SVR4(0)duc-748# cd 
 /usr/ports/net/citrix_ica/duc-748# make install clean=== Installing for 
 citrix_ica-10.0=== citrix_ica-10.0 depends on file: 
 /compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so.3 - not found=== Verifying install for 
 /compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so.3 in 
 /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/linux-openmotif=== Installing for 
 linux-openmotif-2.2.4_2=== linux-openmotif-2.2.4_2 depends on file: 
 /compat/linux/etc/fedora-release - found=== linux-openmotif-2.2.4_2 depends 
 on file: /compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender.so.1 - found=== Generating 
 temporary packing list=== Checking if x11-toolkits/linux-openmotif already 
 installedcd /compat/linux; rpm2cpio 
 /usr/ports/distfiles/rpm/openmotif-2.2.4-0.1.i386.rpm | /usr/bin/cpio -idum 
 -R root:wheel ./usr/X11R6/lib/libMrm.so.3.0.3 ./usr/X11R6/lib/libUil.so.3.0.3 
 ./usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so.3.0.313414 blockschroot /compat/linux 
 /sbin/ldconfigELF binary type 3 not known.ELF binary type 3 not 
 known.chroot: /sbin/ldconfig: Exec format error*** Error code 1Stop in 
 /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/linux-openmotif.*** Error code 1Stop in 
 /usr/ports/net/citrix_ica.Alain Fabry  
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two mounted directories with the same name ?

2007-03-26 Thread Frank Bonnet

Hello

A strange thing happened to my 6.2-R amd64 machine

it has the following disk partitionning configuration


Filesystem1K-blocksUsed Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/aacd0s1a   5077038   66764   4604112 1%/
devfs 1   1 0   100%/dev
/dev/aacd0s1g 302097610   4 277929798 0%/user
/dev/aacd0s1d  30462636 2085826  25939800 7%/usr
/dev/aacd0s1e  10154158   30862   9310964 0%/var
/dev/aacd0s1f 203114302  14 186865144 0%/var/mail


OK, now I want to NFS mount a Netapp filer volume on the /user partition
look below what happened ...

mail2# mount_nfs yfiler:/vol/imap /user
mail2# df
Filesystem   1K-blocks  Used Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/aacd0s1a  5077038 66764   4604112 1%/
devfs1 1 0   100%/dev
/dev/aacd0s1g302097610 4 277929798 0%/user
/dev/aacd0s1d 30462636   2085826  25939800 7%/usr
/dev/aacd0s1e 10154158 30864   9310962 0%/var
/dev/aacd0s1f20311430214 186865144 0%/var/mail
yfiler:/vol/imap 209715200 111015364  9869983653%/user

It seems there are two partitions (one local and one NFS mounted)
with the *same* name ...
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Re: jail vs. nice

2007-03-26 Thread Robert Watson

On Mon, 26 Mar 2007, Kris Kennaway wrote:


On Mon, Mar 26, 2007 at 01:28:51AM -0400, Mikhail Teterin wrote:


A program (a TclX' self-test script) works fine in a normal environment, 
but fails to renice itself, when running in jail (as root):


 nice-1.8 nice tests FAILED
 Contents of test case:

list [nice -1] [nice]

 Test generated error; Return code was: 1
 Return code should have been one of: 0 2
 errorInfo: failed to increment priority: permission denied
while executing
nice -1
invoked from within
list [nice -1] [nice]
(uplevel body line 2)
invoked from within
uplevel 1 $script

This is new -- just a few months ago the same script was working fine, but 
it is failing now in both 7.0 and 6.2.


And 5.x.  Or it could just be a changed behaviour of the 7.0 kernel, which 
is common to all builds.


This e-mail exchange has left me unclear on what has broken on what versions. 
Mikhail, when you say 7.0 and 6.2, do you mean actual 7.0 and 6.2 boxes, or 
do you mean the package build environment running on 7.0 on pointyhat as 
Kris's followup seems to suggest?  And what does failing now mean -- a quick 
glance at the kernel source in RELENG_5 suggests it started failing now a 
long time ago?


Robert N M Watson
Computer Laboratory
University of Cambridge
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Copy/move files between Windows and FreeBSD

2007-03-26 Thread Nagy László Zsolt


 Hi,

I need to copy,move and delete files across two machines. They are 
located far away from each other. I have other FreeBSD machines and we 
were using SSH2 for this kind of task. Under windows, I could not find 
the right software. This is an automated task, and it is not 
complicated: copy/move all files from one computer to another. I was 
using putty and plink/pscp but it is not reliable. I could not start 
them from a win32 service. I could run them from a scheduled program but 
sometimes they freeze and then I have to kill and restart the whole 
thing. I'm looking for a more reliable tool that can do SCP in batch 
mode. Do you have any suggestions?


Thanks,

  Laszlo


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Re: Copy/move files between Windows and FreeBSD

2007-03-26 Thread Ivan Voras

Nagy László Zsolt wrote:


 Hi,

I need to copy,move and delete files across two machines. They are 
located far away from each other. I have other FreeBSD machines and we 
were using SSH2 for this kind of task. Under windows, I could not find 
the right software. This is an automated task, and it is not 
complicated: copy/move all files from one computer to another. I was 
using putty and plink/pscp but it is not reliable. I could not start 
them from a win32 service. I could run them from a scheduled program but 
sometimes they freeze and then I have to kill and restart the whole 
thing. I'm looking for a more reliable tool that can do SCP in batch 
mode. Do you have any suggestions?


Have you tried cygwin?

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Re: Test

2007-03-26 Thread Simon Chang

Hear, hear.

Chris, please remember NOT to do this again.

SC
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Alternative package dependencies in portmaster

2007-03-26 Thread Simon Phoenix
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Hi, all.

Is any possibility to point an alternative dependency for portmaster,
like ALT_PKGDEP in pkgtools.conf for portupgrade?

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Re: Copy/move files between Windows and FreeBSD

2007-03-26 Thread Chris Slothouber

Hi Laszlo,

I use Unison to run automated file copying (synchronization) from 
Windows servers to FreeBSD.  This program might work for you.  It is 
open source and cross-platform.  It is also in the ports collection. 
Perhaps it will work for you.  Here is the link:


http://www.cis.upenn.edu/%7Ebcpierce/unison/

Nagy László Zsolt wrote:


 Hi,
I need to copy,move and delete files across two machines. They are 
located far away from each other. I have other FreeBSD machines and we 
were using SSH2 for this kind of task. Under windows, I could not find 
the right software. This is an automated task, and it is not 
complicated: copy/move all files from one computer to another. I was 
using putty and plink/pscp but it is not reliable. I could not start 
them from a win32 service. I could run them from a scheduled program but 
sometimes they freeze and then I have to kill and restart the whole 
thing. I'm looking for a more reliable tool that can do SCP in batch 
mode. Do you have any suggestions?

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Re: Copy/move files between Windows and FreeBSD

2007-03-26 Thread Gerard Seibert
On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 13:19:53 +0200
Nagy László Zsolt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I need to copy,move and delete files across two machines. They are 
 located far away from each other. I have other FreeBSD machines and
 we were using SSH2 for this kind of task. Under windows, I could not
 find the right software. This is an automated task, and it is not 
 complicated: copy/move all files from one computer to another. I was 
 using putty and plink/pscp but it is not reliable. I could not start 
 them from a win32 service. I could run them from a scheduled program
 but sometimes they freeze and then I have to kill and restart the
 whole thing. I'm looking for a more reliable tool that can do SCP in
 batch mode. Do you have any suggestions?

Have you tried: SyncToy v1.4 available at:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=E0FC1154-C975-4814-9649-CCE41AF06EB7displaylang=en

I have used it with success on Windows machines connected to FreeBSD.


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Re: Test

2007-03-26 Thread Chris
Simon Chang wrote:
 Hear, hear.
 
 Chris, please remember NOT to do this again.
 
 SC
 
 

Yanno - I was just gonna let this go but it seems a simple sorry isn't
good enough for some that simply don't feel as if life is complete
without some sorta bitchin'

Grow up, get a life, move on. It wont be the first time someone does
this - and it certainly won't be the last - much less have the offender
(me in this case) apologize for it...

Apology ... rescinded



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RE: Postgres Startup Error Message

2007-03-26 Thread Rick Apichairuk
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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-freebsd-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gerard
 Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 7:36 AM
 To: FreeBSD Questions
 Subject: Postgres Startup Error Message
 
 I occasionally receive this error message when booting up:
 
 Mar 25 08:28:24 scorpio postgres[756]: [1-1] FATAL:  the database system
 is starting up
 
 Since it is an intermittent error message, I am unable to track down what
 is causing it or how to fix it.
 
 Any suggestions?

I had a similar problem before with an older version of PostgreSQL. The problem
was that the rc script was waiting for input from the user. It was waiting for a
password. Depending on how you set up your PostgreSQL, it might ask for a
password on startup.

It might help to post the versions of PostgreSQL and FreeBSD you are using.

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Re: Postgres Startup Error Message

2007-03-26 Thread Gerard Seibert
On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 07:02:27 -0500
Rick Apichairuk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I occasionally receive this error message when booting up:
  
  Mar 25 08:28:24 scorpio postgres[756]: [1-1] FATAL:  the database
  system is starting up
  
  Since it is an intermittent error message, I am unable to track
  down what is causing it or how to fix it.
  
  Any suggestions?  
 
 I had a similar problem before with an older version of PostgreSQL.
 The problem was that the rc script was waiting for input from the
 user. It was waiting for a password. Depending on how you set up your
 PostgreSQL, it might ask for a password on startup.
 
 It might help to post the versions of PostgreSQL and FreeBSD you are
 using.

I checked on the postgresql forum and received a reply. It appears that
a program is attempting to query postgresql before it is started. I
think it was dovecot. In any case, I reconfigured the rc.d file for
postgresql to start sooner in the boot process. That eliminated the
problem, or at least it appears to have done so.


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The dynamics of a mailing list (was Re: Test)

2007-03-26 Thread Bill Moran
In response to Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Simon Chang wrote:
  Hear, hear.
  
  Chris, please remember NOT to do this again.
  
  SC
 
 Yanno - I was just gonna let this go but it seems a simple sorry isn't
 good enough for some that simply don't feel as if life is complete
 without some sorta bitchin'
 
 Grow up, get a life, move on. It wont be the first time someone does
 this - and it certainly won't be the last - much less have the offender
 (me in this case) apologize for it...

For crying out loud.

There are x000 people on this mailing list.  When you do something that's
considered unacceptable you'll immediately have two scenarios:
1) Some people just _have_ to speak their peace, even if it's already
   been spoken by someone else.
2) Many people will (literally) post their objection simultaneously, and
   you'll then feel like the whole world is jumping on you because you
   get 5 or 6 messages at once.

However, responding like you did, Chris, only makes it worse.  Keep in mind
that it's less than 1% of the list members that are making a fuss right now.

Too often, this list traffic ends up clogged with some sort of flame war that
_only_ 5 or 6 people are actually participating in.  Remember, again, that's
less than 1% of the total list participants.

Yes, the test@ list exists to keep test messages off the other lists.  Yes,
you should have posted there.  Yes, _someone_ was right to point that out
to you so you know for next time.  No, it's not a big deal if a few people
on the list make a bigger deal out of it than seems necessary.  Yes, your
best bet is to just ignore the loudmouths -- they only make noise if fed.

As usual, the subsequent traffic has far exceeded the original faux pas.

I've been an active member of this mailing list since some time around 1998,
I think.  It's often frustrating to see the same issues come round again and
again -- but I look on it as a good thing.  It means there's constantly new
blood coming in to FreeBSD -- it means the project is very much alive.

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RE: rc.d scripts

2007-03-26 Thread Rick Apichairuk
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-freebsd-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jack Stone
 Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 8:09 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: rc.d scripts
 
 From: Tom Grove [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: rc.d scripts
 Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 09:15:29 -0400
 
 Does anyone know how to make a script in /etc/rc.d run last?  For instance
 I want dhclient to be the last script in /etc/rc.d/ to run.  Any help is
 much appreciated.
 
 -Tom
 
 This may have already been answered by others, but I believe just rename the
 script with a prefix of z for example: zmyscript.sh or zzmyscript to
 make it very last beyond the first one with a z.
 
 It works for me.
 

You might have also noticed that some ports come with number prefixed rc startup
scripts. You can prefix your scripts with numbers like:

01_apache.sh
02_mysql.sh
03_pgsql.sh

That way you can always adjust the exact order.

Best Regards,

Rick Apichairuk 

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pkg corrupted

2007-03-26 Thread Robert Huff

dbetts writes:

  I am running Freebsd 6.2

Thank you for mentioning this, but the ports system is
(more-or-less) separate from the base system.

  Somehow my /var/db/pkg has become corrupted.  I ran pkgdb -F and
  it still didn't fix it. The I did something dumb, I deleted the
  /var/db/pkg. I thought I had a backup but I can't find one. Is
  there a way to recreate the pkg to reflect what I have already
  installed on my system 

If you have lost the entire contents of /var/db/pkg, then I
believ the answer is No..

  or will I have to reinstall all the packages I know I had on my
  system.

Yes.  Depending on how many ports you had installed, this will
be a royal pain.  (At least in terms of time spent.)
When this happened to me three or four months ago, I ended up
looking at the ports distfiles, reverse-mapping them to a port, then
building (not upgrading) the port /de novo/.  That machine lost the
records of 350+ ports; recreating them - even with scripts - took 4
days.  Plus another day to rebuild OpenOffice.
The good news is the basic functionality of the system is not
compromised, and the rebuilding can go on in the background.
Remember to log your work, so you can tell if anything didn't
build/install and fix it by hand.



Robert Huff



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cannot nfs-export msdosfs

2007-03-26 Thread Martin Dieringer



I habe a USB disk with fat32 filesystem. it's anbout 100GB.

If I mount it via fstab:

/dev/da2s1  /Music  msdosfs rw,noauto 0 0

the directory gets permission d--

If I mount manually with
# mount_msdosfs -u user -m 755 /dev/da2s1  /Music
permissions are ok.

But as soon as I restart mountd:

/Music -alldirs -maproot=0 -network 192.168


the permissions of the directory get d--- again.

If I don't restart mountd, I cannot nfs mount it Input/output error

what can I do?

system is 6.2-STABLE FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE #4: Fri Mar 23 07:23:44 CET 2007


thanks
m.
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Is there a way from serial TTY to get system attention?

2007-03-26 Thread Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET
Hi,
 
I have a Soekris 4801 I bought about a year + 1/2 
ago. It runs FreeBSD (5.5) off a CF card with a USB flash 
to help it. It ran great for 10 months, but over the last 
8 months its been locking up on me. I put that in quotes 
because I'm not sure if its the OS or the unit. I do see 
POWER onand the NET light blinking. No ERROR or DISK. 
When I try to serial tty in, I get nothing. 

Is there any way anyone knows to find out if the
OS has gone south, or the unit is not operating properly.
Is there some sort of key sequence to ask FreeBSD if its
running or to give SOME sort of life or something? My
only access to it is via a serial TTY.
 
Thanks, Tuc
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Re: Copy/move files between Windows and FreeBSD

2007-03-26 Thread Laszlo Nagy

Ivan Voras írta:

Nagy László Zsolt wrote:


 Hi,

I need to copy,move and delete files across two machines. They are 
located far away from each other. I have other FreeBSD machines and 
we were using SSH2 for this kind of task. Under windows, I could not 
find the right software. This is an automated task, and it is not 
complicated: copy/move all files from one computer to another. I was 
using putty and plink/pscp but it is not reliable. I could not start 
them from a win32 service. I could run them from a scheduled program 
but sometimes they freeze and then I have to kill and restart the 
whole thing. I'm looking for a more reliable tool that can do SCP in 
batch mode. Do you have any suggestions?


Have you tried cygwin?

Thanks, this is the first I'll try. Since I was using pscp, it will be
the less pain to use scp from openssh for windows. I hope it will work.

  Laszlo


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Re: cannot nfs-export msdosfs

2007-03-26 Thread Martin Dieringer





On Mon, 26 Mar 2007, Martin Dieringer wrote:



But as soon as I restart mountd:
the permissions of the directory get d--- again.



Ok it seems my mountd was outdated...
sorry
m.


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Re: Oops... {upgrading, using a script and pkg_version}

2007-03-26 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   I've got ~770 ports install--many|most depencencies.  Doesn't
   -a rebuilt *everything*?  If not, I've been sadly
   mis-understanding the man page.  

-a makes sure that everything is up-to-date, but it doesn't rebuild
ports that are already up-to-date.  Unless you want it to; in which
case you can also provide -f.
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Re: two mounted directories with the same name ?

2007-03-26 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Frank Bonnet [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hello

 A strange thing happened to my 6.2-R amd64 machine

 it has the following disk partitionning configuration


 Filesystem1K-blocksUsed Avail Capacity  Mounted on
 /dev/aacd0s1a   5077038   66764   4604112 1%/
 devfs 1   1 0   100%/dev
 /dev/aacd0s1g 302097610   4 277929798 0%/user
 /dev/aacd0s1d  30462636 2085826  25939800 7%/usr
 /dev/aacd0s1e  10154158   30862   9310964 0%/var
 /dev/aacd0s1f 203114302  14 186865144 0%/var/mail


 OK, now I want to NFS mount a Netapp filer volume on the /user partition
 look below what happened ...

 mail2# mount_nfs yfiler:/vol/imap /user
 mail2# df
 Filesystem   1K-blocks  Used Avail Capacity  Mounted on
 /dev/aacd0s1a  5077038 66764   4604112 1%/
 devfs1 1 0   100%/dev
 /dev/aacd0s1g302097610 4 277929798 0%/user
 /dev/aacd0s1d 30462636   2085826  25939800 7%/usr
 /dev/aacd0s1e 10154158 30864   9310962 0%/var
 /dev/aacd0s1f20311430214 186865144 0%/var/mail
 yfiler:/vol/imap 209715200 111015364  9869983653%/user

 It seems there are two partitions (one local and one NFS mounted)
 with the *same* name ...

Yes, and the local one will be hidden until you unmount the NFS one.
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Re: Copy/move files between Windows and FreeBSD

2007-03-26 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Laszlo Nagy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Ivan Voras írta:
 Nagy László Zsolt wrote:

  Hi,

 I need to copy,move and delete files across two machines. They are
 located far away from each other. I have other FreeBSD machines and
 we were using SSH2 for this kind of task. Under windows, I could
 not find the right software. This is an automated task, and it is
 not complicated: copy/move all files from one computer to
 another. I was using putty and plink/pscp but it is not reliable. I
 could not start them from a win32 service. I could run them from a
 scheduled program but sometimes they freeze and then I have to kill
 and restart the whole thing. I'm looking for a more reliable tool
 that can do SCP in batch mode. Do you have any suggestions?

 Have you tried cygwin?
 Thanks, this is the first I'll try. Since I was using pscp, it will be
 the less pain to use scp from openssh for windows. I hope it will work.

Cygwin also seems to include rsync; running that over ssh will be a
lot easier in the long run.
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Re: Copy/move files between Windows and FreeBSD

2007-03-26 Thread Kurt Buff

Nagy László Zsolt wrote:


 Hi,

I need to copy,move and delete files across two machines. They are 
located far away from each other. I have other FreeBSD machines and we 
were using SSH2 for this kind of task. Under windows, I could not find 
the right software. This is an automated task, and it is not 
complicated: copy/move all files from one computer to another. I was 
using putty and plink/pscp but it is not reliable. I could not start 
them from a win32 service. I could run them from a scheduled program but 
sometimes they freeze and then I have to kill and restart the whole 
thing. I'm looking for a more reliable tool that can do SCP in batch 
mode. Do you have any suggestions?


Thanks,

  Laszlo


You might try WinSCP.
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Making Customized Bootable FreeBSD

2007-03-26 Thread Olivier Regnier

Hello,

After 3 hours, i made my bootable FreeBSD CD/Floppies. Actually, i 
finished my install.cfg but i have a problem because i don't understand 
the final step :


# mkdir /img
# cd $CHROOTDIR/R/cdrom/disk1/floppies

/* Get mfsroot.gz from mfsroot.flp */
# vnconfig /dev/vn0c mfsroot.flp
# mount /dev/vn0c /img
# cp /img/mfsroot.gz .
# umount /img
# vnconfig -u /dev/vn0c

/* Unzip mfsroot.gz to get mfsroot */
# gunzip mfsroot.gz

/* Put your config file in mfsroot */
# vnconfig /dev/vn0c mfsroot
# mount /dev/vn0c /img
# cp install.cfg /img/.
# umount /img
# vnconfig -u /dev/vn0c
/* (If you 'gzip mfsroot' here, you can use that for bootable mfsroot.flp for 
floppies) */

/* Put mfsroot in kernel so that it will read it when boot time */
# vnconfig /dev/vn0c boot.flp
# mount /dev/vn0c /img
# cp /img/kernel.gz .
# gunzip kernel.gz
# write_mfs_in_kernel -f kernel mfsroot
/* write_mfs_in_kernel can be found at /usr/src/release.  Compile it if you 
haven't. */

# gzip kernel
# cp kernel.gz /img/.
# umount /img
# vnconfig -u /dev/vn0c

Can you explain me this part please ?

Thank you :)
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Re: rc.d scripts

2007-03-26 Thread RW
On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 23:03:38 -0400
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  Does anyone know how to make a script in /etc/rc.d run last?  For
  instance I want dhclient to be the last script in /etc/rc.d/ to
  run.  Any help is much appreciated.
 
  This may have already been answered by others, but I believe just
  rename the script with a prefix of z for example: zmyscript.sh
  or zzmyscript to make it very last beyond the first one with a
  z.
 
  It works for me.
 
 I have my suspicions regarding this working as you describe.  As the
 order isn't related to the filename but to the REQUIRE tags inside
 the file.  

Correct; dictionary order applies only to old-style local scripts
in /usr/local/etc/rc.d. 

 
 For example, adding a requirement for bgfsck (which was also last on
 my system when I did this) moved bgfsck down the list... and still
 left dhclient 4th from last.  In fact, it took the addition of:
 
 # REQUIRE: bgfsck bsnmpd bridge bluetooth
 
 to actually make it the last thing run.  And that is not a sure thing 
 either... as soon as the system is updated it is likely to change.

Most of the time, when people ask how to run something last, it's
because they don't  really know when it should run, and just want it
pretty late. 
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Re: Installing on large disk

2007-03-26 Thread Derek Ragona
The 1023 cylinder limit is BIOS limit for booting.  If your BIOS is more 
modern it will support booting from translated cylinder addresses  
1023.  The easiest way to tell is to try updating your BIOS, and trying the 
install.


With older hardware I would have to have boot partitions all located at  
1023 cylinders so you'd have the / partition and a windows c: drive both  
1023 on a dual boot system.  This limit has mostly disappeared with more 
modern BIOS that will address and boot drives at  1023.


-Derek


At 03:50 PM 3/25/2007, John C Nolen wrote:
I have a 40 GB hard disk that was made in 2001 with windows xp installed 
on a 20 GB partition. BIOS setup says 19158 cylinders, 16 heads and 255 
sectors.
I want to install freeBSD on the second 20 GB partition. All the 
instructions seem to refer to small disks, as they appear to require 
cylinders less than 1023.

Sysinstall appears to require cylinders less than 1023. Did I miss something?
Is it possible to install BSD as a dual operating system with windows xp 
on a disk larger than 8 GB ?

Am I trying to do something impossible?
Should I just ignore warnings and type in 1023 when asked about cylinders?
If I uninstall the windows xp can I put freeBSD on one big 40GB partition?
I could not find any information on this in handbook or FAQ.

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Re: using nut-ups with apc UPS on USB

2007-03-26 Thread Derek Ragona
I use nut-ups on a number of systems both attached to a UPS and some as 
network slaves.  In all my systems I use UPS's that have serial interfaces 
and USB, but connect them via serial.


If you read the docs on nut-ups you will see some drivers do support the 
USB's.  You will need to specify the port in ups.conf typically in 
/usr/local/etc/nut

The line would be:
port = /dev/usb0

You can experiment with the port to get the right one.  Nut will tell you 
if is can or cannot talk to the UPS.


-Derek


At 09:18 PM 3/25/2007, Michael P. Soulier wrote:

Hey,
I'm new to using nut-ups, or any UPS monitoring software.

Mainly I want some kind of reporting on power failures, and for a
clean shutdown in the event of a prolonged outage.

The UPS is an APC Back-UPS ES 500, with a USB interface. With usbd
running, usbdevs shows it connected.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ sudo usbdevs
Password:
addr 1: OHCI root hub, SiS
addr 2: Back-UPS ES 500 FW:824.B1.D USB FW:B1, APC
addr 1: OHCI root hub, SiS

The syntax of upsd.conf requires a pathname for the port to talk do.
What device file would this work out to?

Any hints on setting this up? If nut-ups isn't the right software, I'm
open to suggestions.

Cheers,
Mike
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Re: Test

2007-03-26 Thread Simon Chang

Yanno - I was just gonna let this go but it seems a simple sorry isn't
good enough for some that simply don't feel as if life is complete
without some sorta bitchin'

Grow up, get a life, move on. It wont be the first time someone does
this - and it certainly won't be the last - much less have the offender
(me in this case) apologize for it...

Apology ... rescinded


As if we had wronged you - YANNO, I was gonna let this one go, but
you screwed up!!!  You have some serious boundary issues, Silva.
Until you change your behavior, don't be surprised if your Apology...
rescinded becomes Subscriber... booted.

SC
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FIPS 140-2 for government use

2007-03-26 Thread Lorraine Chin


Does anyone know if FreeBSD supports any hardware security module 
(cryptoprocessor) certified for FIPS 140-2 or know if there are 
future plans to do this?


My company has a product based on FreeBSD that wants to incorporate a 
FIPS 140-2 certified cryptoprocessor, required for use in the 
government but all the boards on the market are developed and 
FIPS-certifed for LInux, Solaris, AIX, etc... just NOT FreeBSD.


Surely, we're not the only FreeBSD users with this particular need?

Lorraine


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Re: FIPS 140-2 for government use

2007-03-26 Thread Chuck Swiger

On Mar 26, 2007, at 10:01 AM, Lorraine Chin wrote:
Does anyone know if FreeBSD supports any hardware security module  
(cryptoprocessor) certified for FIPS 140-2 or know if there are  
future plans to do this?


My company has a product based on FreeBSD that wants to incorporate  
a FIPS 140-2 certified cryptoprocessor, required for use in the  
government but all the boards on the market are developed and FIPS- 
certifed for LInux, Solaris, AIX, etc... just NOT FreeBSD.


See man cryptodev; FreeBSD also has device drivers for the Hi/FN,  
VIA AES, SafeNet 1x41,  Broadcom/BlueSteel uBsec 5x0x devices.


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mount

2007-03-26 Thread Reginaldo Tavares

Hello,

somebody knows how an ordinary user can mount a floppy or cd ?

Thanks.
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Re: mount

2007-03-26 Thread Gerard
On Monday March 26, 2007 at 02:49:29 (PM) Reginaldo Tavares wrote:


 somebody knows how an ordinary user can mount a floppy or cd ?

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html#USER-FLOPPYMOUNT

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Re: Making Customized Bootable FreeBSD

2007-03-26 Thread Kevin Kinsey

Olivier Regnier wrote:

Hello,

After 3 hours, i made my bootable FreeBSD CD/Floppies. Actually, i 
finished my install.cfg but i have a problem because i don't understand 
the final step :




I'm not sure I do either, but I'm willing to attempt to help.  Bearing
in mind IANAE, I *think* this is what you're seeing:


# mkdir /img
# cd $CHROOTDIR/R/cdrom/disk1/floppies


Should be self-explanatory; $CHROOTDIR should be 
set in the environment if you are doing make release



/* Get mfsroot.gz from mfsroot.flp */
# vnconfig /dev/vn0c mfsroot.flp
# mount /dev/vn0c /img
# cp /img/mfsroot.gz .
# umount /img
# vnconfig -u /dev/vn0c


Create a memory disk from the floppy image mfsroot.flp,
mount it, copy the mfsroot.gz to the current working dir,
unmount it and destroy the memory disk.


/* Unzip mfsroot.gz to get mfsroot */
# gunzip mfsroot.gz


Obvious, I hope.


/* Put your config file in mfsroot */
# vnconfig /dev/vn0c mfsroot
# mount /dev/vn0c /img
# cp install.cfg /img/.
# umount /img
# vnconfig -u /dev/vn0c
/* (If you 'gzip mfsroot' here, you can use that for bootable 
mfsroot.flp for floppies) */




Mount the unzipped mfsroot file in a memory disk,
cp your install.cfg to this memory disk, unmount it
and destroy the memory disk.

(Note of concern ... I don't see this getting moved
back to anywhere were it will do some good before moving
to the next step.  Where did you get these instructions?)


/* Put mfsroot in kernel so that it will read it when boot time */
# vnconfig /dev/vn0c boot.flp
# mount /dev/vn0c /img
# cp /img/kernel.gz .
# gunzip kernel.gz
# write_mfs_in_kernel -f kernel mfsroot
/* write_mfs_in_kernel can be found at /usr/src/release.  Compile it if 
you haven't. */


# gzip kernel
# cp kernel.gz /img/.
# umount /img
# vnconfig -u /dev/vn0c



Mount the boot.flp image in a memory disk, grab the kernel,
unzip it, add the altered mfsroot to the kernel using the
write_mfs_in_kernel program/script, zip up the new kernel, 
copy it to the image and unmount said image.


I'm concerned though about this documentation; for one thing
vnconfig is deprecated (except for 4.X releases, which are, uh,
deprecated?), and  write_mfs_in_kernel was nuked from CVS 
**8 years ago**  by the venerable jkh himself, so I have to 
wonder, Where did this 'how-to' come from?


You may need someone more familiar with the modern RELENG
system to help with this

Kevin Kinsey
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Updating Bind OpenSSL on 6.1-Stable/Release

2007-03-26 Thread Don O'Neil
Hi all...

  I'm having some difficulty updating OpenSSL 0.9.8e and Bind 9.3.4... I've
tried both the packages and the original source... The problem is this..

My bind install that came on the 6.1 installation runs from /usr/bin,
whereas both the package and the source want to run from /usr/local/bin...
Not usually a problem, but when I build it or install the package they both
complain about wanting a file 'named.conf', which I don't have and can't
seem to find an example version. My older version of bind 9.3.2 didn't have
this file.

OpenSSL wants to run from /usr/local/openssl, whereas my old version was in
/usr/bin, the source wants to run from /usr/local/ssl... In either case I
just linked the new location back to the old location and it seems to be
working ok.

My question is, where do I get the 'named.conf' file... I need to get my
bind updated for the security issues and why are the packages trying to
install into new locations? I would think that you could just install the
package and restart the service, but that doesn't seem to be the case here.

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Re: Making Customized Bootable FreeBSD

2007-03-26 Thread Olivier Regnier

Kevin Kinsey a écrit :

Olivier Regnier wrote:

Hello,

After 3 hours, i made my bootable FreeBSD CD/Floppies. Actually, i 
finished my install.cfg but i have a problem because i don't 
understand the final step :




I'm not sure I do either, but I'm willing to attempt to help.  Bearing
in mind IANAE, I *think* this is what you're seeing:


# mkdir /img
# cd $CHROOTDIR/R/cdrom/disk1/floppies


Should be self-explanatory; $CHROOTDIR should be set in the 
environment if you are doing make release



/* Get mfsroot.gz from mfsroot.flp */
# vnconfig /dev/vn0c mfsroot.flp
# mount /dev/vn0c /img
# cp /img/mfsroot.gz .
# umount /img
# vnconfig -u /dev/vn0c


Create a memory disk from the floppy image mfsroot.flp,
mount it, copy the mfsroot.gz to the current working dir,
unmount it and destroy the memory disk.


/* Unzip mfsroot.gz to get mfsroot */
# gunzip mfsroot.gz


Obvious, I hope.


/* Put your config file in mfsroot */
# vnconfig /dev/vn0c mfsroot
# mount /dev/vn0c /img
# cp install.cfg /img/.
# umount /img
# vnconfig -u /dev/vn0c
/* (If you 'gzip mfsroot' here, you can use that for bootable 
mfsroot.flp for floppies) */




Mount the unzipped mfsroot file in a memory disk,
cp your install.cfg to this memory disk, unmount it
and destroy the memory disk.

(Note of concern ... I don't see this getting moved
back to anywhere were it will do some good before moving
to the next step.  Where did you get these instructions?)


/* Put mfsroot in kernel so that it will read it when boot time */
# vnconfig /dev/vn0c boot.flp
# mount /dev/vn0c /img
# cp /img/kernel.gz .
# gunzip kernel.gz
# write_mfs_in_kernel -f kernel mfsroot
/* write_mfs_in_kernel can be found at /usr/src/release.  Compile it 
if you haven't. */


# gzip kernel
# cp kernel.gz /img/.
# umount /img
# vnconfig -u /dev/vn0c



Mount the boot.flp image in a memory disk, grab the kernel,
unzip it, add the altered mfsroot to the kernel using the
write_mfs_in_kernel program/script, zip up the new kernel, copy it to 
the image and unmount said image.


I'm concerned though about this documentation; for one thing
vnconfig is deprecated (except for 4.X releases, which are, uh,
deprecated?), and  write_mfs_in_kernel was nuked from CVS **8 
years ago**  by the venerable jkh himself, so I have to wonder, Where 
did this 'how-to' come from?


You may need someone more familiar with the modern RELENG
system to help with this

Kevin Kinsey
Thank you for your answer. I found these instructions at 
http://www.sfc.wide.ad.jp/%7Ewatari/FreeBSD/boot.html


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Re: creating rc.d scripts

2007-03-26 Thread Jim Stapleton

oops, sent a reply to the wrong list a bit ago... Anyway, it is still
not working.


I forgot to mentions, sorry, doing
$ /usr/local/etc/rc.d/sb_server start

works just fine.

I used /usr/bin/env python because I would like to add this to the
port that installs the server this script starts, and I cannot be
certain that python will be installed in /usr/local/bin, instead of
some other path directory (can I? Is this even a concern porters
should take into account?).

Changing to /usr/local/bin/python did not fix the issue.

Thanks for the information. I'll reboot the machine and see if
sendmail is dead when I get home.
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Re: Making Customized Bootable FreeBSD

2007-03-26 Thread Olivier Regnier

Kevin Kinsey a écrit :

Olivier Regnier wrote:

Hello,

After 3 hours, i made my bootable FreeBSD CD/Floppies. Actually, i 
finished my install.cfg but i have a problem because i don't 
understand the final step :




I'm not sure I do either, but I'm willing to attempt to help.  Bearing
in mind IANAE, I *think* this is what you're seeing:


# mkdir /img
# cd $CHROOTDIR/R/cdrom/disk1/floppies


Should be self-explanatory; $CHROOTDIR should be set in the 
environment if you are doing make release



/* Get mfsroot.gz from mfsroot.flp */
# vnconfig /dev/vn0c mfsroot.flp
# mount /dev/vn0c /img
# cp /img/mfsroot.gz .
# umount /img
# vnconfig -u /dev/vn0c


Create a memory disk from the floppy image mfsroot.flp,
mount it, copy the mfsroot.gz to the current working dir,
unmount it and destroy the memory disk.


/* Unzip mfsroot.gz to get mfsroot */
# gunzip mfsroot.gz


Obvious, I hope.


/* Put your config file in mfsroot */
# vnconfig /dev/vn0c mfsroot
# mount /dev/vn0c /img
# cp install.cfg /img/.
# umount /img
# vnconfig -u /dev/vn0c
/* (If you 'gzip mfsroot' here, you can use that for bootable 
mfsroot.flp for floppies) */




Mount the unzipped mfsroot file in a memory disk,
cp your install.cfg to this memory disk, unmount it
and destroy the memory disk.

(Note of concern ... I don't see this getting moved
back to anywhere were it will do some good before moving
to the next step.  Where did you get these instructions?)


/* Put mfsroot in kernel so that it will read it when boot time */
# vnconfig /dev/vn0c boot.flp
# mount /dev/vn0c /img
# cp /img/kernel.gz .
# gunzip kernel.gz
# write_mfs_in_kernel -f kernel mfsroot
/* write_mfs_in_kernel can be found at /usr/src/release.  Compile it 
if you haven't. */


# gzip kernel
# cp kernel.gz /img/.
# umount /img
# vnconfig -u /dev/vn0c



Mount the boot.flp image in a memory disk, grab the kernel,
unzip it, add the altered mfsroot to the kernel using the
write_mfs_in_kernel program/script, zip up the new kernel, copy it to 
the image and unmount said image.


I'm concerned though about this documentation; for one thing
vnconfig is deprecated (except for 4.X releases, which are, uh,
deprecated?), and  write_mfs_in_kernel was nuked from CVS **8 
years ago**  by the venerable jkh himself, so I have to wonder, Where 
did this 'how-to' come from?


You may need someone more familiar with the modern RELENG
system to help with this

Kevin Kinsey

Thank you for your answer. I found these instructions at

http://www.sfc.wide.ad.jp/%7Ewatari/FreeBSD/boot.html

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Re: Making Customized Bootable FreeBSD

2007-03-26 Thread Olivier Regnier

Kevin Kinsey a écrit :

Olivier Regnier wrote:

Hello,

After 3 hours, i made my bootable FreeBSD CD/Floppies. Actually, i 
finished my install.cfg but i have a problem because i don't 
understand the final step :




I'm not sure I do either, but I'm willing to attempt to help.  Bearing
in mind IANAE, I *think* this is what you're seeing:


# mkdir /img
# cd $CHROOTDIR/R/cdrom/disk1/floppies


Should be self-explanatory; $CHROOTDIR should be set in the 
environment if you are doing make release



/* Get mfsroot.gz from mfsroot.flp */
# vnconfig /dev/vn0c mfsroot.flp
# mount /dev/vn0c /img
# cp /img/mfsroot.gz .
# umount /img
# vnconfig -u /dev/vn0c


Create a memory disk from the floppy image mfsroot.flp,
mount it, copy the mfsroot.gz to the current working dir,
unmount it and destroy the memory disk.


/* Unzip mfsroot.gz to get mfsroot */
# gunzip mfsroot.gz


Obvious, I hope.


/* Put your config file in mfsroot */
# vnconfig /dev/vn0c mfsroot
# mount /dev/vn0c /img
# cp install.cfg /img/.
# umount /img
# vnconfig -u /dev/vn0c
/* (If you 'gzip mfsroot' here, you can use that for bootable 
mfsroot.flp for floppies) */




Mount the unzipped mfsroot file in a memory disk,
cp your install.cfg to this memory disk, unmount it
and destroy the memory disk.

(Note of concern ... I don't see this getting moved
back to anywhere were it will do some good before moving
to the next step.  Where did you get these instructions?)


/* Put mfsroot in kernel so that it will read it when boot time */
# vnconfig /dev/vn0c boot.flp
# mount /dev/vn0c /img
# cp /img/kernel.gz .
# gunzip kernel.gz
# write_mfs_in_kernel -f kernel mfsroot
/* write_mfs_in_kernel can be found at /usr/src/release.  Compile it 
if you haven't. */


# gzip kernel
# cp kernel.gz /img/.
# umount /img
# vnconfig -u /dev/vn0c



Mount the boot.flp image in a memory disk, grab the kernel,
unzip it, add the altered mfsroot to the kernel using the
write_mfs_in_kernel program/script, zip up the new kernel, copy it to 
the image and unmount said image.


I'm concerned though about this documentation; for one thing
vnconfig is deprecated (except for 4.X releases, which are, uh,
deprecated?), and  write_mfs_in_kernel was nuked from CVS **8 
years ago**  by the venerable jkh himself, so I have to wonder, Where 
did this 'how-to' come from?


You may need someone more familiar with the modern RELENG
system to help with this

Kevin Kinsey

Thank you for your answer. I found these instructions at

http://www.sfc.wide.ad.jp/%7Ewatari/FreeBSD/boot.html

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Re: IRQ storm

2007-03-26 Thread Vlad GURDIGA

After running this:

/sbin/atacontrol reinit ata2

the storm was gone.
My HDD in on ata4:

#atacontrol info ata4
Master:  ad8 ST3160812AS/3.AAD Serial ATA II
Slave:   no device present


Why?



On 25/03/07, Vlad GURDIGA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On 25/03/07, Josh Carroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I've changed motherboard recently (now it is Intel DP965LT) and now I
  have my PC slowed down considerably. vmstat -i shows a huge amount of
  interrupts on irq17: atapci0:

 Do you have atapicam enabled or being loaded as a module?

No, I do not have atapicam enabled. Here is my kldstat output:

Id Refs AddressSize Name
1   14 0xc040 3703a4   kernel
21 0xc0771000 6ea8 linprocfs.ko
32 0xc0778000 1adb8linux.ko
41 0xc0793000 2364 accf_http.ko
51 0xc0796000 aa74 cpufreq.ko
61 0xc07a1000 59a50acpi.ko
71 0xc4a7a000 3000 pflog.ko
81 0xc4a7d000 2d000pf.ko

I've checked my kernel configuration file and I do not have it there
either.

What else should I check?

 If so, I
 have the same problem, which is currently being tracked in this PR:

 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=103602

 A workaround, if you don't need/want to burn cds/dvds is to remove
 atapicam or don't load the module at boot time.

 Thanks,
 Josh



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Re: mount

2007-03-26 Thread Roland Smith
On Mon, Mar 26, 2007 at 06:49:29PM +, Reginaldo Tavares wrote:
 Hello,
 
 somebody knows how an ordinary user can mount a floppy or cd ?

1) vfs.usermount must be set to 1 (/etc/sysctl.conf)

2) The user in question must be a member of a group that has read/write
access to the device (set device permissions in /etc/devfs.conf or
/etc/devfs.rules, modify users with pw(8))

3) The user must _own_ the mount point. (E.g. in his own $HOME or /mnt/$USER)

See also § 18.5.3 of the Handbook.

Roland
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Problems with SMP on 6.1-STABLE-200608

2007-03-26 Thread Don O'Neil
I've been having problems with my server freezing up, having the #2 CPU
'shut down', kernel panics, and all sorts of nastyness

Originally I thought it was exim, or possibly bind, or bad hardware (mb, cpu
or memory)... I've swapped out the motherboard  CPU's  memory from an old
server that was running 4.11 ROCK SOLID for years...

At first I thought the problem was solved, but now it's popping up again...
The 2nd CPU gets 'shut down', or kernel panics, esentially taking the system
offline.

If I install a single CPU (non-smp) kernel, then the system works fine... (I
did this on the old motherboard before I swapped it out, and it worked fine
too).. So I'm wondering if there is an SMP bug or problem I'm running into.

I'm running 6.1-STABLE-200608, an ISO image I downloaded from the archives
when I built the box (NOT 6.1-RELEASE). 

I'm runining an Intel Serverworks motherboard with 2 1.4 GHz PIII's... The
problem only seems to show up under high load.

I'm wondering what I should do here... 

I'm concerned about doing a binary upgrade to 6.2 won't fix the problem, and
I've tried using freebsd-update, but it complains about the version not
being compatible. 

If I do a binary upgrade from CD, will it also update the kernel sources so
I can build a new one? Will it complain about it not being compatible?

Is there a way to 'force' the ID of the system to be 6.1-RELEASE so that
freebsd-update will work? 

Will doing the 6.1-6.2 binary upgrade as posted by Colin also update the
kernel sources? 

Would my best option really be to start over with a fresh install rather
than upgrade? (this would be painful)

I'm going to try to test out 6.2 on the old MB/CPU combo to see if I can
re-create it under 6.2 as well before I do anything. As well as try doing an
upgrade on the bench from CD from 6.1-STABLE-200608 to 6.2-RELEASE... Since
this is a production server (and for months it was burned in with no
apparent issues) I only have 1 shot at this to do it right.

Any help/recomendation would be appreciated.

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Re: mount

2007-03-26 Thread mikael ottosson

If you are using gnome, maybe this can help.
http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/faq2.html#q1

On 3/26/07, Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Monday March 26, 2007 at 02:49:29 (PM) Reginaldo Tavares wrote:


 somebody knows how an ordinary user can mount a floppy or cd ?

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html#USER-FLOPPYMOUNT

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audience.

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USB HD Problems

2007-03-26 Thread Andrea Venturoli

Hello.
I've attached an USB HD to my 6.2/i386 box and I'm having troubles.
At boot I get:


uhci0: VIA 83C572 USB controller port 0xd800-0xd81f irq 21 at device 16.0 on 
pci0
uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
usb0: VIA 83C572 USB controller on uhci0
usb0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci1: VIA 83C572 USB controller port 0xdc00-0xdc1f irq 21 at device 16.1 on 
pci0
uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED]
usb1: VIA 83C572 USB controller on uhci1
usb1: USB revision 1.0
uhub1: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci2: VIA 83C572 USB controller port 0xe000-0xe01f irq 21 at device 16.2 on 
pci0
uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED]
usb2: VIA 83C572 USB controller on uhci2
usb2: USB revision 1.0
uhub2: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci3: VIA 83C572 USB controller port 0xe400-0xe41f irq 21 at device 16.3 on 
pci0
uhci3: [GIANT-LOCKED]
usb3: VIA 83C572 USB controller on uhci3
usb3: USB revision 1.0
uhub3: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub3: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
ehci0: VIA VT6202 USB 2.0 controller mem 0xe5012000-0xe50120ff irq 21 at 
device 16.4 on pci0
ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
usb4: EHCI version 1.0
usb4: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2 usb3
usb4: VIA VT6202 USB 2.0 controller on ehci0
usb4: USB revision 2.0
uhub4: VIA EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub4: 8 ports with 8 removable, self powered
umass0: JMicron USB to ATA/ATAPI Bridge, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 2

 ...

da2 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
da2: SAMSUNG HD160JJ 0-41 Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device
da2: 40.000MB/s transfers
da2: 152627MB (312581808 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 19457C)




I can mount this HD right and use it for a while, but then I'll get:


umass0: BBB reset failed, IOERROR
umass0: BBB bulk-in clear stall failed, IOERROR
umass0: BBB bulk-out clear stall failed, IOERROR
umass0: BBB reset failed, IOERROR
umass0: BBB bulk-in clear stall failed, IOERROR
umass0: BBB bulk-out clear stall failed, IOERROR
umass0: BBB reset failed, IOERROR
umass0: BBB bulk-in clear stall failed, IOERROR
umass0: BBB bulk-out clear stall failed, IOERROR
umass0: BBB reset failed, IOERROR
umass0: BBB bulk-in clear stall failed, IOERROR
umass0: BBB bulk-out clear stall failed, IOERROR
umass0: BBB reset failed, IOERROR
umass0: BBB bulk-in clear stall failed, IOERROR
umass0: BBB bulk-out clear stall failed, IOERROR
g_vfs_done():da2s1d[READ(offset=8165818368, length=131072)]error = 5

 ...
and so on.

Here's usbdevs -v:


alamar# usbdevs -v
Controller /dev/usb0:
addr 1: full speed, self powered, config 1, UHCI root hub(0x), VIA(0x), 
rev 1.00
 port 1 addr 2: low speed, power 100 mA, config 1, Logitech USB 
Keyboard(0xc30a), Logitech(0x046d), rev 15.00
 port 2 powered
Controller /dev/usb1:
addr 1: full speed, self powered, config 1, UHCI root hub(0x), VIA(0x), 
rev 1.00
 port 1 addr 2: low speed, self powered, config 1, Smart-UPS 1500 FW:653.13.I 
USB FW:7.3(0x0002), American Power Conversion(0x051d), rev 0.06
 port 2 powered
Controller /dev/usb2:
addr 1: full speed, self powered, config 1, UHCI root hub(0x), VIA(0x), 
rev 1.00
 port 1 addr 2: low speed, power 100 mA, config 1, Trackball(0xc404), 
Logitech(0x046d), rev 2.20
 port 2 powered
Controller /dev/usb3:
addr 1: full speed, self powered, config 1, UHCI root hub(0x), VIA(0x), 
rev 1.00
 port 1 powered
 port 2 powered
Controller /dev/usb4:
addr 1: high speed, self powered, config 1, EHCI root hub(0x), VIA(0x), 
rev 1.00
 port 1 powered
 port 2 addr 2: high speed, power 2 mA, config 1, product 0x2338(0x2338), 
vendor 0x152d(0x152d), rev 1.00
 port 3 powered
 port 4 powered
 port 5 powered
 port 6 powered
 port 7 powered
 port 8 powered


camcontrol devlist:


SEAGATE ST39205LW 0105   at scbus0 target 0 lun 0 (pass0,da0)
PLEXTOR CD-ROM PX-40TS 1.12  at scbus0 target 4 lun 0 (pass1,cd0)
IOMEGA ZIP 100 E.08  at scbus0 target 5 lun 0 (pass2,da1)
YAMAHA CRW8824S 1.0a at scbus0 target 6 lun 0 (pass3,cd1)
SAMSUNG HD160JJ 0-41 at scbus1 target 0 lun 0 (pass4,da2)
BENQ DVD DC DW1670 101   at scbus2 target 0 lun 0 (pass5,cd2)



Where do I start?
Any hint?
Are USB controllers/external HDs fully supported in 6.2?

 bye  Thanks
av.

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Sound on an amilo pro notebook

2007-03-26 Thread Ghirai
Hello list,

I'm trying to get the sound working on a Fujitsu Siemens
Amilo Pro v3205 notebook.
The datasheet says i have a Conexant AMOM soundcard.

I've tried all drivers, but /dev/sndstat doesn't
report anything being installed.

I'm running 6.2 x86.

Any help/hints is appreciated.

Thanks.

-- 
Best regards,
Ghirai.

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Re: Copy/move files between Windows and FreeBSD

2007-03-26 Thread Roger Olofsson

Hello Laszlo,

Going off on a tangent here, may I suggest that you try rsync (FreeBSD) 
with cwRsync (Windows) for this? It can use ssh and be fully automated. 
You will need rsync as client on both machines and to create the 
appropriate keys on respective machines.


Rsync is in ports and cwRsync is at http://itefix.no/cwrsync/ .

Good luck!





Nagy László Zsolt skrev:


 Hi,

I need to copy,move and delete files across two machines. They are 
located far away from each other. I have other FreeBSD machines and we 
were using SSH2 for this kind of task. Under windows, I could not find 
the right software. This is an automated task, and it is not 
complicated: copy/move all files from one computer to another. I was 
using putty and plink/pscp but it is not reliable. I could not start 
them from a win32 service. I could run them from a scheduled program but 
sometimes they freeze and then I have to kill and restart the whole 
thing. I'm looking for a more reliable tool that can do SCP in batch 
mode. Do you have any suggestions?


Thanks,

  Laszlo


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Dual Logic with Qlogic card

2007-03-26 Thread Josef Grosch

I have a Qlogic HBA card (QLA2342) in a machine running FreeBSD
6.2. FreeBSD sees the card and when the HBA is attached to a SAN we are
able to see the disk space. The thing we can't seem to get working is a
dual path to the same space. Can anyone point me in the correct direction
to get this working?



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Re: Dual Logic with Qlogic card

2007-03-26 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Mon, Mar 26, 2007 at 01:06:03PM -0700, Josef Grosch wrote..
 
 I have a Qlogic HBA card (QLA2342) in a machine running FreeBSD
 6.2. FreeBSD sees the card and when the HBA is attached to a SAN we are
 able to see the disk space. The thing we can't seem to get working is a
 dual path to the same space. Can anyone point me in the correct direction
 to get this working?

You might want to check geom_fox(4).  Note the disclaimer about light
testing ;^)  What FC array do you have btw?

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Re: Updating Bind OpenSSL on 6.1-Stable/Release

2007-03-26 Thread Reko Turja
My bind install that came on the 6.1 installation runs from 
/usr/bin,
whereas both the package and the source want to run from 
/usr/local/bin...


You should have named.conf in /etc/namedb unless there's something 
funny with the original install. Not sure if you need to run 
make-localhost script in that directory as I do it as a matter of 
principle each new system install anyway. If I update SSL/SSH/BIND I 
set the REPLACE_BASE/OVERWRITE_BASE knob (check the Makefile at ports 
dir for relevant knob name!) so the updated version will overwrite the 
older at /usr tree.


-Reko 
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Re: Dual Logic with Qlogic card

2007-03-26 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Mon, Mar 26, 2007 at 11:01:55PM +0200, Alex Dupre wrote..
 Wilko Bulte wrote:
  You might want to check geom_fox(4).  Note the disclaimer about light
  testing ;^)  What FC array do you have btw?
 
 There is also geom_multipath in -current, in active development. What
 are the differences between the twos?

I was not aware about geom_multipath so I cannot really comment.

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Re: Dual Logic with Qlogic card

2007-03-26 Thread Eric Anderson

On 03/26/07 15:06, Josef Grosch wrote:

I have a Qlogic HBA card (QLA2342) in a machine running FreeBSD
6.2. FreeBSD sees the card and when the HBA is attached to a SAN we are
able to see the disk space. The thing we can't seem to get working is a
dual path to the same space. Can anyone point me in the correct direction
to get this working?



See geom multipath (gmultipath) in -CURRENT.  I think it's going to be 
MFC'ed at some point..


Eric
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Re: Dual Logic with Qlogic card

2007-03-26 Thread Alex Dupre
Wilko Bulte wrote:
 You might want to check geom_fox(4).  Note the disclaimer about light
 testing ;^)  What FC array do you have btw?

There is also geom_multipath in -current, in active development. What
are the differences between the twos?

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Re: Dual Logic with Qlogic card

2007-03-26 Thread Josef Grosch
On Mon, Mar 26, 2007 at 10:38:52PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote:
 On Mon, Mar 26, 2007 at 01:06:03PM -0700, Josef Grosch wrote..
  
  I have a Qlogic HBA card (QLA2342) in a machine running FreeBSD
  6.2. FreeBSD sees the card and when the HBA is attached to a SAN we are
  able to see the disk space. The thing we can't seem to get working is a
  dual path to the same space. Can anyone point me in the correct direction
  to get this working?
 
 You might want to check geom_fox(4).  Note the disclaimer about light
 testing ;^)  What FC array do you have btw?


We are going to be testing with a Netapp 3050 running Ontap 7.04. Our plan
is to got to new Netapp 6030 / Ontap 7.2.1.1. This hooks up throught a
Brocade switch. My first test were with a Hitachi something or another. 

I'll have a look at geom_fox.


Josef

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Adding paths to @INC in perl

2007-03-26 Thread Ian A. Tegebo
I've found several methods for adding directories to @INC in perl:

www.ncode.ch/papers/Perl-Library-Mechanics.pdf

I was hoping to find a KNOB, or something I could put in pkgtools.conf
so that my custom library path gets included in perl's @INC.  I was
hoping -Dusesitecustomize would have not required a patch to the port's
Makefile but this didn't seem to be the case.  

I'm using -Dotherlibdirs now:

==
--- Makefile-perl   Sat Feb 10 13:11:20 2007
+++ Makefile-perl-rcSat Feb 10 13:10:56 2007
@@ -121,6 +121,10 @@
 .endif
 MAN3PREFIX=${TARGETDIR}/lib/perl5/${PERL_VER}/perl
 
+.if defined(WITH_LIBDIRS)
+CONFIGURE_ARGS+=   -Dotherlibdirs=${WITH_LIBDIRS}
+.endif
+
 test:
@(cd ${WRKSRC}; make test)
 
@@ -145,6 +149,7 @@
@${ECHO}   WITHOUT_PERL_64BITINT=yes Disable 64 bit integers
@${ECHO} (affects only 32-bit 
platforms).
@${ECHO}   WITH_THREADS=yes  Build threaded perl.
+   @${ECHO}   WITH_LIBDIRS=PATH:..  Set the otherlibdirs 
configure arguments.
@${ECHO}   ENABLE_SUIDPERL=yes   Also build set-user-id 
suidperl binary.
@${ECHO} 
==

Is there a better way to do this?  If not, should I submit this patch to the
port maintainer?  

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redirect /dev/console to a file

2007-03-26 Thread Neil Short
I'd like to redirect /dev/console to some file that
can be read by the xrootconsole port.

Is this ambition feasible?

I like the functionality of xconsole; but it's not
very pretty.

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New to FreeBSD

2007-03-26 Thread Ivan Zenzerović

Hi to all.

My name is Ivan and I'm new to FreeBSD and Unix, I worked a little in
Linux, but it was a long time ago. I downloaded the 5.5 release and I
plan installing it. I downloaded also all availible docs. I wondered
if it is ok to start with this. And, also, I have an integrated GPU,
it works well on FreeBSD?
Thanks,
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Re: New to FreeBSD

2007-03-26 Thread Ivan Zenzerović

Hi,

when I tried with Knoppix, the X system worked well, but with debian I had
some problems. I'll try installing it on this week so I'll know everything.
Thanks for your answer.

Ivan

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On Mon, Mar 26, 2007 at 11:09:52PM +0200, Ivan Zenzerović wrote:
 Hi to all.

 My name is Ivan and I'm new to FreeBSD and Unix, I worked a little in
 Linux, but it was a long time ago. I downloaded the 5.5 release and I
 plan installing it.

Better get 6.2. That is the latest production release. 5.5 is a legacy
release.

 I downloaded also all availible docs.

The docs are on the release CD and will be installed if you tell the
install program to do so.

It is a good idea to print out those parts of the FreeBSD Handbook that
deal with installation and have them handy.

 I wondered if it is ok to start with this.

What you could do is use an emulator (like VMware or the free Qemu) to
do a test install on a virtual machine. Furthermore there is the
Freesbie project which is a FreeBSD Live-CD that you can boot from to
get a feel for the system and how it deals with your hardware.

 And, also, I have an
 integrated GPU, it works well on FreeBSD?

Depends. It's not really dependant on FreeBSD, but more on the X
server. You should look at the docs on the X website: www.x.org

HTH,

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Re: New to FreeBSD

2007-03-26 Thread Sean Bryant

Ivan Zenzerović wrote:

Hi to all.

My name is Ivan and I'm new to FreeBSD and Unix, I worked a little in
Linux, but it was a long time ago. I downloaded the 5.5 release and I
plan installing it. I downloaded also all availible docs. I wondered
if it is ok to start with this. And, also, I have an integrated GPU,
it works well on FreeBSD?
Thanks,
Ivan

I'd give the 6.2 release a shot. the 5.5 is a legacy release.
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sample cds

2007-03-26 Thread stefan broos
I'm organising a linux/opensource day in my school. Is it possible to 
get some saple freeBSD cds for those who want to try it?


Stefan
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Re: sample cds

2007-03-26 Thread Chuck Swiger

On Mar 26, 2007, at 3:25 PM, stefan broos wrote:
I'm organising a linux/opensource day in my school. Is it possible  
to get some saple freeBSD cds for those who want to try it?


Have fun.  You're welcome to download and burn the FreeBSD ISO images  
yourself:


  http://www.freebsd.org/where.html

You probably want to grab the 6.2 x86 image

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Re: sample cds

2007-03-26 Thread Derek Ragona

You can download the ISO images and make all you want.

-Derek


At 05:25 PM 3/26/2007, stefan broos wrote:
I'm organising a linux/opensource day in my school. Is it possible to get 
some saple freeBSD cds for those who want to try it?


Stefan
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Re: sample cds

2007-03-26 Thread John Levine
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write:
I'm organising a linux/opensource day in my school. Is it possible to 
get some saple freeBSD cds for those who want to try it?

Sure.  Just download the ISO image and burn all the CDs you want.

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Re: Adding paths to @INC in perl

2007-03-26 Thread Philip M. Gollucci

Ian A. Tegebo wrote:

I've found several methods for adding directories to @INC in perl:
The general solution to this is that 'admin's put appropriate lines in 
~/. startup files for users that need this or in the /etc/ system-wide 
startup files as needed.


That said, I don't see anything wrong with this cause if you don't use 
it nothing changes.

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Upgrade suggestion

2007-03-26 Thread Gary Kline

Hi Folks,

Last night it struck me that one reason I constantly find new
ports to upgrade is that with ~17K ports, if you're running one 
of the more common desktop managers and several popular apps,
there are going to be at least a dozen minor tweaks every day.
E.g.:going from foo-1.6.7_2  to foo-1.6.7_3.   I used to run 
port[upgrade|manager] twice/week.  Was swamped; recently, 
upgrading things daily.   Since a lot of the wm ports take 
 24 hours to build/re-build, I'm pretty much wedged.   Thus 
this suggestion  (for all port/package upgrade suites):
have a flag, say 'u' for urgent when *foo* goes from 
foo-1.6.7 to -1.6.8  or else when/if foo makes a critical
fix.  

I Would've loved to have joined into the Coding ``love-in''
this coming summer,  but my shoulder said,  ARE YOU AN IDIOT!
so not now.   Besides, other tasks await.  

Flames to /dev/null,guys; rational responses see-vous-play.

gary

Still trying to learn French :-)

PS:  I hopefully will be upgrading//getting a faster used server 
 to replace TAO.  Even if that resolves part of my upgrade 
 problem, I think we can do lots better with maintaining 
 current ports.




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Re: Upgrade suggestion

2007-03-26 Thread Chuck Swiger

On Mar 26, 2007, at 4:40 PM, Gary Kline wrote:


Hi Folks,

Last night it struck me that one reason I constantly find new
ports to upgrade is that with ~17K ports, if you're running one
of the more common desktop managers and several popular apps,
there are going to be at least a dozen minor tweaks every day.


Possibly, for a very busy program with multiple authors actively  
making changes.  Normally, projects accumulate such changes and only  
release point version updates perhaps every month or so, and most  
have updates available much less often than that.



E.g.:going from foo-1.6.7_2  to foo-1.6.7_3.


Portrevision bumps commonly happen when an underlying dependency  
changes; you generally don't get any changes to foo itself, unless  
the program version itself changes.



I used to run
port[upgrade|manager] twice/week.  Was swamped; recently,
upgrading things daily.   Since a lot of the wm ports take
 24 hours to build/re-build, I'm pretty much wedged.   Thus
this suggestion  (for all port/package upgrade suites):
have a flag, say 'u' for urgent when *foo* goes from
foo-1.6.7 to -1.6.8  or else when/if foo makes a critical
fix.


There's an easier way: you can probably wait to rebuild ports until  
you see something listed in portaudit's output, or you know you want  
to update something being actively used to a specific known version  
that you need.



I Would've loved to have joined into the Coding ``love-in''
this coming summer,  but my shoulder said,  ARE YOU AN IDIOT!
so not now.   Besides, other tasks await.

Flames to /dev/null,guys; rational responses see-vous-play.

gary

Still trying to learn French :-)


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[EMAIL PROTECTED]@freebsd.org

2007-03-26 Thread Anatoliy

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FreeBSD Clustering?

2007-03-26 Thread Brett Davidson
Looking at running a Postfix and some sort of IMAP/POP3 mailserver with
webmail.
Would like to do this within a FreeBSD cluster if such a thing is
possible.
 
Where can I find out info on FreeBSD clustering options?
 
Cheers,
Brett.
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RE: Updating Bind OpenSSL on 6.1-Stable/Release

2007-03-26 Thread Don O'Neil
I did... So I linked it to /etc/named.conf Everything works great now...

My question is howver, why are the ports setup different than the original
install? I would think that the port build would be set with the same
options as the original install that came with the OS... I've seen this
before, and it's annoying as heck when you go to patch/update something and
it doesn't work because it's installing in a different location and looks
for config files in different places. 

-Original Message-
From: Reko Turja [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 1:34 PM
To: Don O'Neil; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Updating Bind  OpenSSL on 6.1-Stable/Release

 My bind install that came on the 6.1 installation runs from /usr/bin, 
 whereas both the package and the source want to run from 
 /usr/local/bin...

You should have named.conf in /etc/namedb unless there's something funny
with the original install. Not sure if you need to run make-localhost script
in that directory as I do it as a matter of principle each new system
install anyway. If I update SSL/SSH/BIND I set the
REPLACE_BASE/OVERWRITE_BASE knob (check the Makefile at ports dir for
relevant knob name!) so the updated version will overwrite the older at /usr
tree.

-Reko 

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Re: Upgrade suggestion

2007-03-26 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 26/03/07, Chuck Swiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Mar 26, 2007, at 4:40 PM, Gary Kline wrote:

   Hi Folks,

   Last night it struck me that one reason I constantly find new
   ports to upgrade is that with ~17K ports, if you're running one
   of the more common desktop managers and several popular apps,
   there are going to be at least a dozen minor tweaks every day.

Possibly, for a very busy program with multiple authors actively
making changes.  Normally, projects accumulate such changes and only
release point version updates perhaps every month or so, and most
have updates available much less often than that.

   E.g.:going from foo-1.6.7_2  to foo-1.6.7_3.

Portrevision bumps commonly happen when an underlying dependency
changes; you generally don't get any changes to foo itself, unless
the program version itself changes.

 I used to run
   port[upgrade|manager] twice/week.  Was swamped; recently,
   upgrading things daily.   Since a lot of the wm ports take
24 hours to build/re-build, I'm pretty much wedged.   Thus
   this suggestion  (for all port/package upgrade suites):
   have a flag, say 'u' for urgent when *foo* goes from
   foo-1.6.7 to -1.6.8  or else when/if foo makes a critical
   fix.

There's an easier way: you can probably wait to rebuild ports until
you see something listed in portaudit's output, or you know you want
to update something being actively used to a specific known version
that you need.



Of course, Gentoo's portage system does all of this.
Of course, Gentoo's portage system is a complete
labyrinth of configuration files scattered over countless
myriads (10^4) of subdirectories so that running a mixture
of Holy-and-Blessed Versions and testing versions
becomes a lovely game of tag combined with memory and
$10,000 Pyramid, only fewer bleached-white teeth.

I think the addition of portaudit for such a huge (~17K ports!)
collection (and a much less strenuous upgrade cycle) is an
excellent idea.

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SSHD Login Prompt

2007-03-26 Thread Don O'Neil
I just updated my openSSH to the latest and now when I login I get this:

login as: don
[EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password:

How do I ether set it to show the hostname instead of the IP or get rid of
the @ip altogether like the original openSSH ran?

I'm using the same configuration files as before, so this must be a new
option with OpenSSH.

Thanks!

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Re: Upgrade suggestion

2007-03-26 Thread youshi10

On Mon, 26 Mar 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On 26/03/07, Chuck Swiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Mar 26, 2007, at 4:40 PM, Gary Kline wrote:

   Hi Folks,

   Last night it struck me that one reason I constantly find new
   ports to upgrade is that with ~17K ports, if you're running one
   of the more common desktop managers and several popular apps,
   there are going to be at least a dozen minor tweaks every day.

Possibly, for a very busy program with multiple authors actively
making changes.  Normally, projects accumulate such changes and only
release point version updates perhaps every month or so, and most
have updates available much less often than that.

   E.g.:going from foo-1.6.7_2  to foo-1.6.7_3.

Portrevision bumps commonly happen when an underlying dependency
changes; you generally don't get any changes to foo itself, unless
the program version itself changes.

 I used to run
   port[upgrade|manager] twice/week.  Was swamped; recently,
   upgrading things daily.   Since a lot of the wm ports take
24 hours to build/re-build, I'm pretty much wedged.   Thus
   this suggestion  (for all port/package upgrade suites):
   have a flag, say 'u' for urgent when *foo* goes from
   foo-1.6.7 to -1.6.8  or else when/if foo makes a critical
   fix.

There's an easier way: you can probably wait to rebuild ports until
you see something listed in portaudit's output, or you know you want
to update something being actively used to a specific known version
that you need.



Of course, Gentoo's portage system does all of this.
Of course, Gentoo's portage system is a complete
labyrinth of configuration files scattered over countless
myriads (10^4) of subdirectories so that running a mixture
of Holy-and-Blessed Versions and testing versions
becomes a lovely game of tag combined with memory and
$10,000 Pyramid, only fewer bleached-white teeth.

I think the addition of portaudit for such a huge (~17K ports!)
collection (and a much less strenuous upgrade cycle) is an
excellent idea.

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Gentoo is a pain, but it's the only thing I can really run (stable-y) on my 
Core 2 Duo box right now (desktop). Not ready to go straight to -CURRENT on a desktop, 
quite yet.. I'll give it 6.2-RELEASE shot in a week.

But anyhow, I do really like ports more, for all of its quirks.. it truly is a 
better (simpler) system to deal with, and as long as some of the stuff under 
the hood gets fixed soon, the better.

Oh, but you shouldn't really have to worry about upgrading stuff all the time 
Gary. There's no point in upgrading packages daily -- I used to do that in 
Gentoo and all it did was waste precious CPU cycles and reduce the life of my 
hard disk.

Upgrades once to twice a week do just fine for many systems (unless you're 
purposely running LINT for the entire ports collection -- which doesn't exist 
quite yet :)..).

-Garrett

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Re: sample cds

2007-03-26 Thread Kelly D. Grills
On Tue, Mar 27, 2007 at 12:25:15AM +0200, stefan broos wrote:
 
 I'm organising a linux/opensource day in my school. Is it possible to 
 get some saple freeBSD cds for those who want to try it?
 
 Stefan

As others have noted, you can download and burn the ISO's.
Another option is a live CD, such as FreeSBIE.
See http://www.freesbie.org for all the details.

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Binary Upgrade from 6.1-Stable to 6.2-Release

2007-03-26 Thread Don O'Neil
I didn't get any response on my original post, so I figured I'd 'summarize'
it better. Bottom line is I'm having SMP problems under 6.1-STABLE-200608
and suspect it's a problem with 6.1 that may have been addressed in 6.2... 

Here are my questions:

I'm concerned about doing a binary upgrade to 6.2 won't fix the problem, and
I've tried using freebsd-update, but it complains about the version not
being compatible. Is there a way to 'force' the ID of the system to be
6.1-RELEASE so that freebsd-update will work? 

If I do a binary upgrade from CD, will it also update the kernel sources so
I can build a new one? Will it complain about it not being compatible like
freebsd-update?

Will doing the 6.1-6.2 binary upgrade as posted by Colin (the author of
freebsd-update) also update the kernel sources? 

Any help/recomendation would be appreciated.

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Re: SSHD Login Prompt

2007-03-26 Thread youshi10

On Mon, 26 Mar 2007, Don O'Neil wrote:


I just updated my openSSH to the latest and now when I login I get this:

login as: don
[EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password:

How do I ether set it to show the hostname instead of the IP or get rid of
the @ip altogether like the original openSSH ran?

I'm using the same configuration files as before, so this must be a new
option with OpenSSH.

Thanks!


Search for DNS in the sshd_config manpage.. it's in there somewhere. The only 
drawback is that sometimes ssh connections will be slow / non-responsive =\..

-Garrett

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Re: Upgrade suggestion

2007-03-26 Thread Gary Kline
On Mon, Mar 26, 2007 at 04:55:56PM -0700, Chuck Swiger wrote:
 On Mar 26, 2007, at 4:40 PM, Gary Kline wrote:
 
  Hi Folks,
 
  Last night it struck me that one reason I constantly find new
  ports to upgrade is that with ~17K ports, if you're running one
  of the more common desktop managers and several popular apps,
  there are going to be at least a dozen minor tweaks every day.
 
 Possibly, for a very busy program with multiple authors actively  
 making changes.  Normally, projects accumulate such changes and only  
 release point version updates perhaps every month or so, and most  
 have updates available much less often than that.
 
  E.g.:going from foo-1.6.7_2  to foo-1.6.7_3.
 
 Portrevision bumps commonly happen when an underlying dependency  
 changes; you generally don't get any changes to foo itself, unless  
 the program version itself changes.
 

Mm-k.  I'm guessing that gettext was a good example.  That was
one thing tht urged me on with being such a fanatic about keeping
_everything_ current.Over the years of doing mostly OS 
version upgrades I got lazy.   Things are really ok now...  There
really are some bad jerks out there, but I'm locked down preet
tight.  (Maybe it's time to relax a wee bit:)


 I used to run
  port[upgrade|manager] twice/week.  Was swamped; recently,
  upgrading things daily.   Since a lot of the wm ports take
   24 hours to build/re-build, I'm pretty much wedged.   Thus
  this suggestion  (for all port/package upgrade suites):
  have a flag, say 'u' for urgent when *foo* goes from
  foo-1.6.7 to -1.6.8  or else when/if foo makes a critical
  fix.
 
 There's an easier way: you can probably wait to rebuild ports until  
 you see something listed in portaudit's output, or you know you want  
 to update something being actively used to a specific known version  
 that you need.


Good point.


gary


 
  I Would've loved to have joined into the Coding ``love-in''
  this coming summer,  but my shoulder said,  ARE YOU AN IDIOT!
  so not now.   Besides, other tasks await.
 
  Flames to /dev/null,guys; rational responses see-vous-play.
 
  gary
 
  Still trying to learn French :-)
 
 Donnez-moi tout mais le temps...  -- Napoleon
 
 -- 
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mdconfig device no faster then direct disk ...

2007-03-26 Thread Marc G. Fournier
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On a machine that is doing 0 swapping:

last pid: 47437;  load averages:  0.01,  0.01,  0.00 

45 processes:  1 running, 44 sleeping
CPU states:  0.0% user,  0.0% nice,  0.4% system,  0.4% interrupt, 99.2% idle
Mem: 35M Active, 285M Inact, 271M Wired, 44K Cache, 111M Buf, 402M Free
Swap: 2007M Total, 2007M Free

I just did:

mdconfig -a -t malloc -s 200m -o reserve
newfs /dev/md0

Now, my understanding, this builds a file system 'in core', vs on the disk ... 
with memory being faster then disk, I would have assumed that read/write 
performance would have been better, but, using iozone, I'm not finding enough 
of a difference in performance to understand why I'd want to use a memory file 
system:

aster# pwd
/usr
aster# iozone 180 | grep the file
It then reads the file.  It prints the bytes-per-second
Reading the file...1.007812 seconds
54658803 bytes/second for writing the file
187280550 bytes/second for reading the file
aster# pwd
/usr
aster# cd /mnt
aster# df .
Filesystem 1K-blocks Used  Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/md0  1981264 182272 0%/mnt
aster# iozone 180 | grep the file
It then reads the file.  It prints the bytes-per-second
Reading the file...0.984375 seconds
60701485 bytes/second for writing the file
191739611 bytes/second for reading the file

Am I missing something here?  Or is this expected?

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Re: Upgrade suggestion

2007-03-26 Thread Danny Pansters
On Tuesday 27 March 2007 01:40:40 Gary Kline wrote:
   Hi Folks,

   Last night it struck me that one reason I constantly find new
   ports to upgrade is that with ~17K ports, if you're running one
   of the more common desktop managers and several popular apps,
   there are going to be at least a dozen minor tweaks every day.
   E.g.:going from foo-1.6.7_2  to foo-1.6.7_3.   I used to run
   port[upgrade|manager] twice/week.  Was swamped; recently,
   upgrading things daily.   Since a lot of the wm ports take

24 hours to build/re-build, I'm pretty much wedged.   Thus

But you don't *have* to rebuild all the time. I'd wager to say that it's 
foolish to do so. When you have, e.g. a nice open-office, compiled with, say, 
the KDE option, there's no immediate need to update the beast if it happens 
to be updated. Maybe if it's a security fix, but otherwise if the thing works 
well for you, no need to update. Unless you want to of course. I do a massive 
portupgrade every 1-2 months on my desktop and I don't feel I'm missing out 
(and if I do I'll do that update earlier). And yes, usually there's a thing 
or two that I have to fix manually. It will happen also if you 
csup-through-cron every day. Perhaps more often. I think you're trying to 
overdo whilst still trying to minimize build time (= stability shall we say) 
and such. They're two conflicting goals. 


   this suggestion  (for all port/package upgrade suites):
   have a flag, say 'u' for urgent when *foo* goes from
   foo-1.6.7 to -1.6.8  or else when/if foo makes a critical
   fix.

We have more than one port update tools (and they do somewhat different 
things), that would complicate things a lot I think (what color is yer 
bikeshed), and such a thing would probably need to be in the binary update 
(Colin's) stuff too. 

   I Would've loved to have joined into the Coding ``love-in''
   this coming summer,  but my shoulder said,  ARE YOU AN IDIOT!
   so not now.   Besides, other tasks await.

contro
IMHO the sooner Google or in general the second IT/OSS boom fizzles out and 
stops solliciting what in the end equals free labor the better. Just my 
opinion. I don't trust them. They just want to have their fishing spot in 
their own backyard just like MS and Sun and Apple and Novell and they want it 
on the cheap. Once the IP wars go all out they are not going to give one 
damn about the original author of a work that has become theirs or what (s)he 
thinks or believes. 
/versial

I think if you want certain things in ports/packages to change or to have (yet 
another) alternative management tool, the thing to do is to write it and PR 
it. It will also give you the largest amount of control. And I bet you can do 
it.

   Flames to /dev/null,guys; rational responses see-vous-play.

   gary

   Still trying to learn French :-)

Meh. l'Amour et l'enfer are all you need to know. Oh, yeah, and fries of 
course. That's s'il vous-plait (needs two ^'s on both i's IIRC). I also found 
it useful to know where the Rue des Bons-Enfants was in Paris but you 
probably don't. Very off-topic :)

   PS:  I hopefully will be upgrading//getting a faster used server
to replace TAO.  Even if that resolves part of my upgrade
problem, I think we can do lots better with maintaining
current ports.

A week or so ago, you were asking about packages and if they might be offered 
by port submitters. I think if submitters would use tinderbox to build 
packages it may be much easier to get pkgs that are all from (somewhat or 
even exactly) the same pristine build environment. That's one idea I thought 
of (some port maintainers and most committers use it). I wonder if it might 
be too much to ask of our submitters/maintainers though.

Dan

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Re: redirect /dev/console to a file

2007-03-26 Thread Kevin Kinsey

Neil Short wrote:

I'd like to redirect /dev/console to some file that
can be read by the xrootconsole port.

Is this ambition feasible?

I like the functionality of xconsole; but it's not
very pretty.



According to the default /etc/syslog.conf, you should
be able to enable syslogd to log to a file, and then
run xrootconsole on that, I should imagine. ??

Details are found there, IIRC.

HTH,

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Re: New to FreeBSD

2007-03-26 Thread Kevin Kinsey

Ivan Zenzerović wrote:

Hi to all.

My name is Ivan and I'm new to FreeBSD and Unix, I worked a little in
Linux, but it was a long time ago. I downloaded the 5.5 release and I
plan installing it. I downloaded also all availible docs. I wondered
if it is ok to start with this. 


6.2-RELEASE would be a better choice.


And, also, I have an integrated GPU,
it works well on FreeBSD?


More than 90% of them do; I don't know about all of them.  You might
try a FreeBSD live CD (such as FreeSBIE) and see what kind of
performance you get.  I think that a new FreeSBIE is out based on
FreeBSD 6.2 --- you could check at www.freesbie.org.

Good luck!

Kevin Kinsey
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Re: redirect /dev/console to a file

2007-03-26 Thread youshi10

On Mon, 26 Mar 2007, Kevin Kinsey wrote:


Neil Short wrote:

I'd like to redirect /dev/console to some file that
can be read by the xrootconsole port.

Is this ambition feasible?

I like the functionality of xconsole; but it's not
very pretty.



According to the default /etc/syslog.conf, you should
be able to enable syslogd to log to a file, and then
run xrootconsole on that, I should imagine. ??

Details are found there, IIRC.

HTH,

Kevin Kinsey
--
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-- Katharine Whitehorn


Yes, you can do that from /etc/syslog.conf. Don't have my PC right in front of 
me right now, but doing that's trivial. Want to make sure you have permissions 
for the file though because (if memory served me correctly) syslog's security 
settings are fairly restrictive by default (mode: 600 owned by root, or 
something similar).

-Garrett

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Re: New to FreeBSD

2007-03-26 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Mon, Mar 26, 2007 at 11:09:52PM +0200, Ivan Zenzerovi? wrote:

 Hi to all.
 
 My name is Ivan and I'm new to FreeBSD and Unix, I worked a little in
 Linux, but it was a long time ago. I downloaded the 5.5 release and I
 plan installing it. I downloaded also all availible docs. I wondered
 if it is ok to start with this. 


It is OK, but I would encourage you to download the latest RELEASE
to start with and that currently is FreeBSD 6.2.   It is better than 5.5.

But, you can get 5.5 to work if that is what you wish.   

  And, also, I have an integrated GPU,
 it works well on FreeBSD?

Do you mean one that is built in to the motherboard?
There is a list of supported hardware in each RELEASE section 
on the FreeBSD web site.   That is the place to look first.
Some NICs and other controllers that are int4egrated on the
motherboard do not work well, but I don't know which ones.
You might have to get more specific with the chip identification and such.

jerry

 Thanks,
 Ivan
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Re: sample cds

2007-03-26 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Tue, Mar 27, 2007 at 12:25:15AM +0200, stefan broos wrote:

 I'm organising a linux/opensource day in my school. Is it possible to 
 get some saple freeBSD cds for those who want to try it?

You are welcome to make your own.  It is legal.   Specifically, download 
the disc2 ISO and burn it to a CD.   That one has both the installation 
system and also a 'fixit' version that contains most of a basic FreeBSD 
system that you can run from the CD and memory.

Just make sure you burn it as a straight image to the CD and don't use
any parameters that attempt to convert it in any way.   The file you
download is already converted to an ISO and ready to burn as is.

Note, though that FreeBSD is its own UNIX and not Linux.   Its history
actually reaches back farther than Linux.

jerry

 
 Stefan
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Re: Upgrade suggestion

2007-03-26 Thread Gary Kline
On Mon, Mar 26, 2007 at 05:58:28PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, 26 Mar 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On 26/03/07, Chuck Swiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mar 26, 2007, at 4:40 PM, Gary Kline wrote:
 
Hi Folks,
 
Last night it struck me that one reason I constantly find new
ports to upgrade is that with ~17K ports, if you're running one
of the more common desktop managers and several popular apps,
there are going to be at least a dozen minor tweaks every day.
 
 Possibly, for a very busy program with multiple authors actively
 making changes.  Normally, projects accumulate such changes and only
 release point version updates perhaps every month or so, and most
 have updates available much less often than that.
 
E.g.:going from foo-1.6.7_2  to foo-1.6.7_3.
 
 Portrevision bumps commonly happen when an underlying dependency
 changes; you generally don't get any changes to foo itself, unless
 the program version itself changes.
 
  I used to run
port[upgrade|manager] twice/week.  Was swamped; recently,
upgrading things daily.   Since a lot of the wm ports take
 24 hours to build/re-build, I'm pretty much wedged.   Thus
this suggestion  (for all port/package upgrade suites):
have a flag, say 'u' for urgent when *foo* goes from
foo-1.6.7 to -1.6.8  or else when/if foo makes a critical
fix.
 
 There's an easier way: you can probably wait to rebuild ports until
 you see something listed in portaudit's output, or you know you want
 to update something being actively used to a specific known version
 that you need.
 
 
 Of course, Gentoo's portage system does all of this.
 Of course, Gentoo's portage system is a complete
 labyrinth of configuration files scattered over countless
 myriads (10^4) of subdirectories so that running a mixture
 of Holy-and-Blessed Versions and testing versions
 becomes a lovely game of tag combined with memory and
 $10,000 Pyramid, only fewer bleached-white teeth.


I've run several distros of Linux.  Ubuntu is (or *was*) my
favorite; they're getting carried away.  (IMHO).

 
 I think the addition of portaudit for such a huge (~17K ports!)
 collection (and a much less strenuous upgrade cycle) is an
 excellent idea.
 
 -- 
 --
 
 Gentoo is a pain, but it's the only thing I can really run (stable-y) on 
 my Core 2 Duo box right now (desktop). Not ready to go straight to -CURRENT 
 on a desktop, quite yet.. I'll give it 6.2-RELEASE shot in a week.
 
 But anyhow, I do really like ports more, for all of its quirks.. it truly 
 is a better (simpler) system to deal with, and as long as some of the stuff 
 under the hood gets fixed soon, the better.


For tuning things to your server, compiler, just the way you want
it, yes.  I'm still building tests for g**-4.2, and will post
something when I have anything solid.


 
 Oh, but you shouldn't really have to worry about upgrading stuff all the 
 time Gary. There's no point in upgrading packages daily -- I used to do 
 that in Gentoo and all it did was waste precious CPU cycles and reduce the 
 life of my hard disk.
 
 Upgrades once to twice a week do just fine for many systems (unless you're 
 purposely running LINT for the entire ports collection -- which doesn't 
 exist quite yet :)..).


Lint?!!  Good grief, I haven't touched that for years.  My
trying-to-keep-current started when I had 6.2 firmly on my backup
DNS server.  I figured it would be trivial to have _everything_
current ... and ran smack into the consequences of complexity
theory.  I'll chill out and use portaudit!  thanks, guys,

gary


 
 -Garrett
 
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Re: Updating Bind OpenSSL on 6.1-Stable/Release

2007-03-26 Thread Kevin Kinsey

Don O'Neil wrote:

I did... So I linked it to /etc/named.conf Everything works great now...

My question is howver, why are the ports setup different than the original
install? I would think that the port build would be set with the same
options as the original install that came with the OS... I've seen this
before, and it's annoying as heck when you go to patch/update something and
it doesn't work because it's installing in a different location and looks
for config files in different places. 



Because they are ports??

Kevin Kinsey


-Original Message-
From: Reko Turja [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 1:34 PM

To: Don O'Neil; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Updating Bind  OpenSSL on 6.1-Stable/Release

My bind install that came on the 6.1 installation runs from /usr/bin, 
whereas both the package and the source want to run from 
/usr/local/bin...


You should have named.conf in /etc/namedb unless there's something funny
with the original install. Not sure if you need to run make-localhost script
in that directory as I do it as a matter of principle each new system
install anyway. If I update SSL/SSH/BIND I set the
REPLACE_BASE/OVERWRITE_BASE knob (check the Makefile at ports dir for
relevant knob name!) so the updated version will overwrite the older at /usr
tree.

-Reko 



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RE: Updating Bind OpenSSL on 6.1-Stable/Release

2007-03-26 Thread Don O'Neil
If they are 'ports' specificly built for FreeBSD, shouldn't the port
maintainer make them install like the originals were? Makes sense to me

Or maybe the original install/release needs to be changed to install the
same as the port.

It's a pain having to debug where everything went, change config files,
update startup scripts, make symlinks, etc... When if it were Linux a simple
RPM install would update it and I'd be done with it.

Just my observations.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Kinsey
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 9:13 PM
To: Don O'Neil
Cc: 'Reko Turja'; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Updating Bind  OpenSSL on 6.1-Stable/Release

Don O'Neil wrote:
 I did... So I linked it to /etc/named.conf Everything works great
now...
 
 My question is howver, why are the ports setup different than the 
 original install? I would think that the port build would be set with 
 the same options as the original install that came with the OS... I've 
 seen this before, and it's annoying as heck when you go to 
 patch/update something and it doesn't work because it's installing in 
 a different location and looks for config files in different places.


Because they are ports??

Kevin Kinsey

 -Original Message-
 From: Reko Turja [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 1:34 PM
 To: Don O'Neil; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: Updating Bind  OpenSSL on 6.1-Stable/Release
 
 My bind install that came on the 6.1 installation runs from /usr/bin, 
 whereas both the package and the source want to run from 
 /usr/local/bin...
 
 You should have named.conf in /etc/namedb unless there's something 
 funny with the original install. Not sure if you need to run 
 make-localhost script in that directory as I do it as a matter of 
 principle each new system install anyway. If I update SSL/SSH/BIND I 
 set the REPLACE_BASE/OVERWRITE_BASE knob (check the Makefile at ports 
 dir for relevant knob name!) so the updated version will overwrite the 
 older at /usr tree.
 
 -Reko


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Re: help on picking an IMAP server

2007-03-26 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt

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From: RW [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: help on picking an IMAP server


 On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 01:40:48 -0500
 David Banning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I have been using imap-uw for some time but now I would like to 
  have an imap server that can have subfolders. Out with imap-uw..
  
  I tried dovecot but I was unable to get it to create subfolders,
  although it seems some say you can, may people are having problems
  doing so, and I didn't like the fact that it changes the format of
  the folders from the mbox standard.
 
 AFAIK imap-uw does support subfolders, to the same extent that UNIX
 supports subdirectories. The problem is that you can't have a
 mailbox file and a subdirectory of the same name in a directory. So in
 foo/bar, bar is a mailbox and foo/ is a  directory - so there can't be
 a top-level mailbox called foo.
 
 It's just a matter of organizing your mailboxes to take account of
 this.

I agree, I have had no problems making folders on the server with
uw-imap

I respectfully submit that anyone who is ignorant of the importance of
UNIX special characters like the / in a directory name would almost
certainly boff up any IMAP subfolder creation regardless of what
IMAP server software he was using.

He's probably coming from a Mac.  Hopefully he knows about the
other UNIX special characters.  Unfortunately, immediately taking
an attitude that It's not my mistake it must be the software whenever
encountering trouble with a computer is not going to get anyone
very far.

Ted
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Re: Westell USB network adapter

2007-03-26 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
First of all, I work for an ISP.  I can assure you that anything that
ActionTec makes is unmitigated garbage.  Only use it if you
absolutely must, and have it do as little as possible.  If you can
put it into bridged mode so that the NAT/routing functionality
can be done by something behind it, your years ahead.

Also, using USB for network connections is idiotic.  Go Ethernet
from the FIOS stuff to a wireless router.

I sometimes worry since the ISP I work at offers DSL in the
FIOS area and Verizon FIOS directly competes with us.  Then
I read posts like this that say what the Verizon techs are telling
customers and I realize I have nothing to worry about.

Ted

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From: White Hat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 7:53 AM
Subject: Westell USB network adapter


 Having gotten sick of my cable company, I am
 considering switching to Verizon FIOS. They want to
 install a Actiontec Router Model MI424-WR. They
 recommend the Westell USB network adapter. Does anyone
 have any experience with that unit and FBSD. I can use
 any adapter I want as long as it works with their
 router. I can use a hard wired system; however, if I
 can get the wireless system working correctly, I would
 rather do it that way. There are three computers on
 this network, two WinXP and one FBSD-6.2 system.

 Thanks!


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Re: Linux equivalent to freebsd

2007-03-26 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt

- Original Message - 
From: Rick Apichairuk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 3:51 PM
Subject: Re: Linux equivalent to freebsd



 Could you recommend a distribution you are using in production, we've
check
 ubuntu, fedora and Debian, but I wonder what freebsd users recommend...

 Thanks

 I recommend Gentoo or Slackware. I feel that these are most similar to
FreeBSD
 in organization, configuration and third party software management.
Personally,
 I use Gentoo when I can't use FreeBSD. With Gentoo, you can compile
everything
 to be optimized for your specific processor if you want to do so.


How exactly do you compile a binary-only product like Zend Platform to be
optimiized for your CPU?

I realize you mean well but this is commercial software, he needs to call
Zend
technical support first and ask them which specific linux distro they prefer
to
use.  If he does not do this then at 4pm in the afternoon when there is a
problem he may get we didn't test it on that linux distro from Zend tech
support.

Ted

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Re: Upgrade suggestion

2007-03-26 Thread Gary Kline
On Tue, Mar 27, 2007 at 03:59:54AM +0200, Danny Pansters wrote:
 On Tuesday 27 March 2007 01:40:40 Gary Kline wrote:
  Hi Folks,
 
  Last night it struck me that one reason I constantly find new
  ports to upgrade is that with ~17K ports, if you're running one
  of the more common desktop managers and several popular apps,
  there are going to be at least a dozen minor tweaks every day.
  E.g.:going from foo-1.6.7_2  to foo-1.6.7_3.   I used to run
  port[upgrade|manager] twice/week.  Was swamped; recently,
  upgrading things daily.   Since a lot of the wm ports take
 
   24 hours to build/re-build, I'm pretty much wedged.   Thus
 
 But you don't *have* to rebuild all the time. I'd wager to say that it's 
 foolish to do so. When you have, e.g. a nice open-office, compiled with, say, 
 the KDE option, there's no immediate need to update the beast if it happens 
 to be updated. Maybe if it's a security fix, but otherwise if the thing works 
 well for you, no need to update. Unless you want to of course. I do a massive 
 portupgrade every 1-2 months on my desktop and I don't feel I'm missing out 
 (and if I do I'll do that update earlier). And yes, usually there's a thing 
 or two that I have to fix manually. It will happen also if you 
 csup-through-cron every day. Perhaps more often. I think you're trying to 
 overdo whilst still trying to minimize build time (= stability shall we say) 
 and such. They're two conflicting goals. 


Hi Dan

My latest (of N:) thoughts/ideas was to do a custom i686 build 
on my P2 and P3 boxes.  This on my 700-750MHz server, this one.
Eventually I would have everything in package form and it would
be simple to scp * around.  It would take months to get
everything built with O3 (and gcc4.x), optimizing for speed by 
doing [[intelligent]] loop-unrolling.  Last year I had my first 
fatal panic in 11 years.  And I hadn't cross backup in days
shudder.  Some eu-daemon must have been looking out because a
fellow I don't know/never met stopped over and did some network 
magic, and got enough off my drive.  That panic was a good lesson
because it impelled me to automate backups.  Stability is an end
goal, but perfect stability is a mirage... .  Besides, the kind
of stability I'm looking for is in the kernel, and BSD has as 
stable a kernel as exists.

 
 We have more than one port update tools (and they do somewhat different 
 things), that would complicate things a lot I think (what color is yer 
 bikeshed), and such a thing would probably need to be in the binary update 
 (Colin's) stuff too. 


At least five years ago one listmember was complaining about the
ports system and was advised to come up with his own.  He said he
would and wouldn;'t be back until he was finished.  One of the 
first things is, as I see it, is to define the problems ... and
do so on a whiteboard or forum.  One tack that I would take 
would be to have a  freeze-frame one every N days or weeks.
Once the ports collection worked/built (or 95+% of it), put it
out for folks to build or download in generic [i3][4][5][686].
See if this works; then do it for the other architectures.  But 
I'm sure it's not that clean cut.  The dependencies' dependencies
had their own dependencies :-)  So... .

 
 contro
 IMHO the sooner Google or in general the second IT/OSS boom fizzles out and 
 stops solliciting what in the end equals free labor the better. Just my 
 opinion. I don't trust them. They just want to have their fishing spot in 
 their own backyard just like MS and Sun and Apple and Novell and they want it 
 on the cheap. Once the IP wars go all out they are not going to give one 
 damn about the original author of a work that has become theirs or what (s)he 
 thinks or believes. 
 /versial


If I shared my *real* thoughts, somebody would  shoot me in the
back! That said, I'm open to giving this a try.  We'll see if
Google's ethics hold up.

 
 I think if you want certain things in ports/packages to change or to have 
 (yet 
 another) alternative management tool, the thing to do is to write it and PR 
 it. It will also give you the largest amount of control. And I bet you can do 
 it.
 
  Flames to /dev/null,guys; rational responses see-vous-play.
 
  gary
 
  Still trying to learn French :-)
 
 Meh. l'Amour et l'enfer are all you need to know. Oh, yeah, and fries of 
 course. That's s'il vous-plait (needs two ^'s on both i's IIRC). I also found 
 it useful to know where the Rue des Bons-Enfants was in Paris but you 
 probably don't. Very off-topic :)
 
  PS:  I hopefully will be upgrading//getting a faster used server
   to replace TAO.  Even if that resolves part of my upgrade
   problem, I think we can do lots