Re: How Write To Win Drive?

2007-03-28 Thread Stan Cooper
Roland Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Try /usr/ports/sysutils/fusefs-ntfs 
instead. It's newer and is supposed
to support writing. 

Hmm. Well, there's no such port in FBSD. There is such a port, however, 
available from Absolute FBSD. So I d/l'd it and all the required to build 
products. I checked to see if libtool15 was built on my system. It was, so I 
didn't bother with that. I built out fusefs-libs, then fusefs-kmod, all 
successfully. However, when I tried to compile fusefs-ntfs, I got an error and 
was referred to the d/l page  http://freeports.org/sysutils/fusefs-ntfs  for 
information...which only seems to tell me I need to build the other products 
(which I just built) first. Perhaps this doesn't work on FBSD?
TIA,
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Time changed back to old daylight savings

2007-03-28 Thread Don O'Neil
I'm not sure when this happened, but I noticed today that my server reverted
back to the old daylight savings time (1 hour off) When I run ntpdate
and have it update it even then it shows the wrong time. 

I haven't done anything to replace the /etc/localtime file, even tried
running tzsetup again, but that still didn't help. 

My system is FreeBSD 6.1-stable, the only thing that has changed since I
last noticed the system had the _right_ time was I built a new kernel.

I tried installing the port 'zoneinfo', but it's broken, it can't find the
appropriate file to download and install (seems to be missing or updated).

At the moment I've addressed the issue with a date -v +1H.

Any reason this would happen? How do I fix it?

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Re: Time changed back to old daylight savings

2007-03-28 Thread Jonathan Chen
On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 12:45:11AM -0700, Don O'Neil wrote:
 I'm not sure when this happened, but I noticed today that my server reverted
 back to the old daylight savings time (1 hour off) When I run ntpdate
 and have it update it even then it shows the wrong time. 

This tends to indicate the your /etc/localtime file is wrong. The
timeservers all return UTC; the display for the date consults
/etc/localtime to display UTC time in local time.

 I haven't done anything to replace the /etc/localtime file, even tried
 running tzsetup again, but that still didn't help. 

This indicates that your zoneinfo files have not been updated
correctly.

[...]
 At the moment I've addressed the issue with a date -v +1H.

Which definitely isn't the correct fix.

 Any reason this would happen? How do I fix it?

What does md5 /usr/src/share/zoneinfo/northamerica return? (I'm
assuming that you're in North America). On my 6-STABLE machine it's:

 MD5 (/usr/src/share/zoneinfo/northamerica) = 3e582e371f445a18b065eed8f775fb20

Any other result means that your should re-cvsup, and rebuild your
system again. If it is the same, make sure your zoneinfo files have
been rebuilt (check the file timestamps).

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Re: Time changed back to old daylight savings

2007-03-28 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 12:45:11AM -0700, Don O'Neil wrote:
 I'm not sure when this happened, but I noticed today that my server reverted
 back to the old daylight savings time (1 hour off) When I run ntpdate
 and have it update it even then it shows the wrong time. 
 
 I haven't done anything to replace the /etc/localtime file, even tried
 running tzsetup again, but that still didn't help. 
 
 My system is FreeBSD 6.1-stable, the only thing that has changed since I
 last noticed the system had the _right_ time was I built a new kernel.

There is no such thing as 6.1-stable any more, so what do you really mean?

Kris

 I tried installing the port 'zoneinfo', but it's broken, it can't find the
 appropriate file to download and install (seems to be missing or updated).
 
 At the moment I've addressed the issue with a date -v +1H.
 
 Any reason this would happen? How do I fix it?
 
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Re: the art of pkgdb -F

2007-03-28 Thread Gerard Seibert
On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 21:17:13 -0400
Michael P. Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm looking at
 
 http://www.freebsddiary.org/pkgdb.php
 
 while I run it myself. I'm finding wonderful questions like
 
 Stale dependency: p5-Authen-SASL-2.09 - p5-GSSAPI-0.24
 (security/p5-GSSAPI): p5-Geography-Countries-1.4 (score:26%) ?
 ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [no] 
 
 I must ask. How the hell am I supposed to know?? I build that as a
 dependency of something that I built months ago. There's a good
 chance that I'll be simply guessing at all of the answers. 
 
 Is it really useful to run this if you can't remember? And why am I
 remembering anyway? That's what a packaging system is for, isn't it?

You can run:

portmanager -u -p -l

That will rebuild all broken and or missing dependencies for all of
your ports.

If you just want to correct a single port, try this:

portmanager /port/name-of-port -p -l

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Re: FreeBSD on IBM Blade HS21

2007-03-28 Thread Axel S. Gruner

Hi,

Nejc Škoberne wrote:

Hello,

today I tried to migrate a FreeBSD 6.1 installation from an ordinary PC
machine to an IBM Blade HS21 server. The server is a brand new machine
with two Dual Core Xeon 5130 processors, two 72GB SAS drives.

i installed FreeBSD 6.1-Beta2 on an IBM HS20 Blade. Take a look here:
http://wiki.bsdgroup.de/FreeBSD_on_IBM_Blade

Hth.

Axel

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Re: New to FreeBSD

2007-03-28 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2007-03-26 23:09, Ivan Zenzerovi? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi to all.
 My name is Ivan and I'm new to FreeBSD and Unix, I worked a little in
 Linux, but it was a long time ago. I downloaded the 5.5 release and I
 plan installing it. I downloaded also all availible docs. I wondered
 if it is ok to start with this. And, also, I have an integrated GPU,
 it works well on FreeBSD?

This question was posted to the comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc newsgroup
too.  'jpd' took the time to write a fairly informative reply there:

% Date: 27 Mar 2007 03:36:37 GMT
% From: jpd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
% Subject: Re: New to FreeBSD
% Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
% Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
%
% Begin  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
% On 2007-03-27, Walter Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
%  [...] I'm new to FreeBSD and Unix, I worked a little in Linux, but
%  it was a long time ago. I downloaded the 5.5 release and I plan
%  installing it. I downloaded also all availible docs. I wondered if it
%  is ok to start with this.
%
% That is quite a lot of documentation. The handbook covers quite a lot
% of topics and is a recommended read. The installation, release, and
% hardware notes you'll also want to read at least once.
%
% The other handbooks and articles are useful if you're interested in
% their particular topics, of course.
%
% There are also one or two complete books, previously in print, now
% online, that you might want to look at. If they're not linked to on
% the FreeBSD site, they've certainly been mentioned in this group.
%
%  And, also, I have an integrated GPU, it works well on FreeBSD?
%
% FreeBSD itself does very little on that front. The graphics are usually
% provided through the Xorg X Window System (previously the XFree86 one),
% and that works well for 2d and accelerated 2d graphics. More details
% in the Xorg documentation. Accelerated OpenGL 3d support is a sore
% point with the free software world, as most vendors won't share the
% programming specs, and if they provide binary drivers at all it is often
% only for linux.
%
% So, for really snazzy 3d graphics out of the box you'll have to look at
% other solutions. A commercial X server might help.

Have you actually *read* the reply of jpd to the group?  Did you find it
useful?  Did you find it confusing, in any way?  If it was unclear, what
was it exactly that you didn't understand in his reply?

- Giorgos

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Re: New to FreeBSD

2007-03-28 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2007-03-27 23:36, Ivan Zenzerovi? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi guys,
 i managed to install it, and, in fact I'm working on it right now.
 It's great, just tell me, I should compile my kernel at this point?
 And a question: I don't like this xorg, and I have installed KDE but
 how do I run KDE?

Right after your first FreeBSD installation, you are certainly *not*
expected to rush into rebuilding a kernel, for any reason.  In fact,
this could be a dangerous exercise.  It's far too easy to build a kernel
which lacks critical components, and render your system unbootable (at
least unbootable without manual intervention).

Since you are new to the FreeBSD system, my suggestion would be to
forget about rebuilding kernels, optimizing compiler flags, and tweaking
knobs here and there.  Now that you have a working FreeBSD installation
you should *read* about the system you have just installed.

There is a wealth of information about FreeBSD both in the CD-ROM set
which you used to install it, and online.  You should, at least, check
the following:

  * The README.TXT file at the toplevel directory of your
installation CD-ROM.

  * The web pages at http://www.FreeBSD.org/docs.html

  * The FreeBSD FAQ book, at
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/

The FAQ contains a lagre list of frequently asked questions
about FreeBSD.  You will find answers there about a very
diverse range of topics, including such obscure things as
``I managed to trash by boot loader, what should I do now?''.

  * The FreeBSD Handbook, at
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/

The FreeBSD Handbook is the largest book written by the
FreeBSD documentation team.  It is both a guide for the
beginning user, and a common reference for administrators
setting up services with FreeBSD.

Your answer about KDE vs. X11 is already answered in the
Handbook.

Note that a copy of the Handbook and all the articles, books and
other reference material related to the FreeBSD release you have
just installed, are also conveniently available in the CD-ROM you
used to install FreeBSD.  You can install them locally too, by
logging in as root and running ``sysinstall'':

# sysintall

Follow the menus to add the ``doc'' distribution, and then you
will have a copy of all the documentation articles and books at:

/usr/share/doc

Welcome to FreeBSD, and if you have other questions regarding its
every day use and operation, feel free to email this list again :-)

- Giorgos

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Re: How Write To Win Drive?

2007-03-28 Thread Kevin Kinsey

Stan Cooper wrote:
Roland Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Try /usr/ports/sysutils/fusefs-ntfs 
instead. It's newer and is supposed to support writing. 

Hmm. Well, there's no such port in FBSD. 


Are you certain?

[EMAIL PROTECTED]/usr/ports]
uname -s
FreeBSD

[EMAIL PROTECTED]/usr/ports]
ll IN*6
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  9888013 Feb  6 09:33 INDEX-6

[EMAIL PROTECTED]/usr/ports]
ll sysutils/fusefs-ntfs
total 1
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  1075 Feb 20 21:25 Makefile
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   214 Feb 20 21:25 distinfo
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel   512 Jan 21 02:09 files/
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   354 Dec  5 16:56 pkg-descr
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   840 Dec  5 16:15 pkg-plist

And that's well over a month old.  According to freshports.org,
this port was added on December 6th.

There is such a port, 
however, available from Absolute FBSD. 


AFAIK, this is a book, not an operating system.  Perhaps
Michael mentioned how to compile this from scratch in his
book?

So I d/l'd it and all 
the required to build products. I checked to see if 
libtool15 was built on my system. It was, so I didn't 
bother with that. I built out fusefs-libs, then fusefs-kmod, 
all successfully. However, when I tried to compile fusefs-ntfs, 
I got an error and was referred to the d/l page 
 http://freeports.org/sysutils/fusefs-ntfs  for information...
which only seems to tell me I need to build the other products 
(which I just built) first. Perhaps this doesn't work on FBSD?


I wouldn't know; but I'd try the port, because if it failed
I might get some support from this community.

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stty -echo

2007-03-28 Thread Apeksha Godiyal

Hi,

I have been using the command stty -echo which is supposed to turn of
displaying characters. But it is not turning off the echoing of typed chars.

Example:

$ stty -echo
$ echo hi
hi
$

Here echo hi should not have been printed.
Is this a bug or have I not interpreted the man pages?

Thanks in advance,
Apeksha Godiyal
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Re: stty -echo

2007-03-28 Thread Christian Walther

On 28/03/07, Apeksha Godiyal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,

I have been using the command stty -echo which is supposed to turn of
displaying characters. But it is not turning off the echoing of typed chars.

Example:

$ stty -echo
$ echo hi
hi
$

Here echo hi should not have been printed.
Is this a bug or have I not interpreted the man pages?


AFAIK it doesn't work in an interactive shell.
But it works in a script, just try something like:

#!/bin/sh
stty -echo
read


Thanks in advance,
Apeksha Godiyal


HTH
Christian
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Re: How Write To Win Drive?

2007-03-28 Thread Stan Cooper
Kevin Kinsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stan Cooper wrote:
  Roland Smith  wrote:Try /usr/ports/sysutils/fusefs-ntfs 
  instead. It's newer and is supposed to support writing. 
  
  Hmm. Well, there's no such port in FBSD. 
 
 Are you certain?
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]/usr/ports]
 uname -s
 FreeBSD
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]/usr/ports]
 ll IN*6
 -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  9888013 Feb  6 09:33 INDEX-6
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]/usr/ports]
 ll sysutils/fusefs-ntfs
 total 1
 -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  1075 Feb 20 21:25 Makefile
 -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   214 Feb 20 21:25 distinfo
 drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel   512 Jan 21 02:09 files/
 -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   354 Dec  5 16:56 pkg-descr
 -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   840 Dec  5 16:15 pkg-plist

Geez, well I just copied your commands directly and, naturally, the first two 
went without a hitch, but the last one gave me No such file or directory, and 
yes, I did that from /usr/ports

 And that's well over a month old.  According to freshports.org,
 this port was added on December 6th.

I built this system this year. So you'd think it'd be there, right?

 I wouldn't know; but I'd try the port, because if it failed
 I might get some support from this community.

Well, let's hope some help's forthcoming ;)
TIA,
Stan

 
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Re: New to FreeBSD

2007-03-28 Thread Ivan Zenzerović

hello again.

I made a mistake during post install config. I put a name that I don't want
for my computer, and when I logon as root it's written in the comand line.
How di I change it?

Ivan

On 3/28/07, Giorgos Keramidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On 2007-03-27 23:36, Ivan Zenzerovi? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi guys,
 i managed to install it, and, in fact I'm working on it right now.
 It's great, just tell me, I should compile my kernel at this point?
 And a question: I don't like this xorg, and I have installed KDE but
 how do I run KDE?

Right after your first FreeBSD installation, you are certainly *not*
expected to rush into rebuilding a kernel, for any reason.  In fact,
this could be a dangerous exercise.  It's far too easy to build a kernel
which lacks critical components, and render your system unbootable (at
least unbootable without manual intervention).

Since you are new to the FreeBSD system, my suggestion would be to
forget about rebuilding kernels, optimizing compiler flags, and tweaking
knobs here and there.  Now that you have a working FreeBSD installation
you should *read* about the system you have just installed.

There is a wealth of information about FreeBSD both in the CD-ROM set
which you used to install it, and online.  You should, at least, check
the following:

  * The README.TXT file at the toplevel directory of your
installation CD-ROM.

  * The web pages at http://www.FreeBSD.org/docs.html

  * The FreeBSD FAQ book, at
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/

The FAQ contains a lagre list of frequently asked questions
about FreeBSD.  You will find answers there about a very
diverse range of topics, including such obscure things as
``I managed to trash by boot loader, what should I do now?''.

  * The FreeBSD Handbook, at
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/

The FreeBSD Handbook is the largest book written by the
FreeBSD documentation team.  It is both a guide for the
beginning user, and a common reference for administrators
setting up services with FreeBSD.

Your answer about KDE vs. X11 is already answered in the
Handbook.

Note that a copy of the Handbook and all the articles, books and
other reference material related to the FreeBSD release you have
just installed, are also conveniently available in the CD-ROM you
used to install FreeBSD.  You can install them locally too, by
logging in as root and running ``sysinstall'':

# sysintall

Follow the menus to add the ``doc'' distribution, and then you
will have a copy of all the documentation articles and books at:

/usr/share/doc

Welcome to FreeBSD, and if you have other questions regarding its
every day use and operation, feel free to email this list again :-)

- Giorgos





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Re: New to FreeBSD

2007-03-28 Thread David J Brooks
On Wednesday 28 March 2007 09:08:30 am Ivan Zenzerović wrote:
 hello again.

 I made a mistake during post install config. I put a name that I don't want
 for my computer, and when I logon as root it's written in the comand line.
 How di I change it?

 Ivan

Edit /etc/rc.conf .. find the line hostname=wrong name and change it to 
the name you prefer.

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Re: hi

2007-03-28 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Tue, Mar 27, 2007 at 09:39:10PM -0400, Drew White wrote:

 Hi Jerry, installed the system. Now getting a terrible message video input
 'out of range' on both my monitors... one showsup partially distorted and
 the other not at all
 . It worked find on the friends monitor who installed it for me, so i guess
 its a difference in the monitor and nothe computer .
 
 Can you tell me how to get 'in range'? This is weird! Both normal monitors,
 out of the box!

Please do not post questions back to me personally.  
It is considered to be very bad Email list etiquette.
Post them to the questions list.   That is the proper
way.

The second reason, besides etiquette is that the single person may
well not know the answer and you are cutting yourself short by
not posting to the list.

I believe this has been mentioned to you at least once already.

In this case, I don't know much of anything about setting up
the graphics of Xorg.   I manage to get it going enough to get
by and leave it alone.So, ask someone who knows.

jerry

 
 Thanks,,
 
 DRew :)


 
 On 3/21/07, Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On Tue, Mar 20, 2007 at 09:25:34PM -0400, Daniel Molina Wegener wrote:
 
  On Tuesday 20 March 2007 20:33, Drew White wrote:
   Hi NOOB question...
 
Hi...
 
   I installed a second hard drive on the
   computer to put FreeBSD on, with windows xp on the other
   drive. Can I dl the software and install it on the other hard
   drive without burning it to cds or using floppy discs?
   Wondering if I can do it from the other drive/operating
   system.
 
Yes, you can. But you need to install the boot loader on
  the first disc. Try using shell from install disc.
 
 The problem is, he seems to be asking about doing it without
 making an install disc.   Once he has made the install CD,
 then he might as well go ahead and do the install with it
 and not bother with the MS monkey business.
 
 jerry
 
 
   Thanks, please advise.
  
   Drew
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Re: New to FreeBSD

2007-03-28 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 04:08:30PM +0200, Ivan Zenzerovi? wrote:

 hello again.
 
 I made a mistake during post install config. I put a name that I don't want
 for my computer, and when I logon as root it's written in the comand line.
 How di I change it?

Presuming by that that you mean your hostname, then that is
set in /etc/rc.conf --  look for the hostname command and
edit it. It is best if it has the fully qualified hostname
including domain, not just the first (left-most) element of it.

If you are using this machine on the net, then that hostname has
to be registered with who-ever is providing DNS for you.  So,
whatever you set it to needs to be what is registered and matches
the IP address you have for the machine.   In addition, the domain
name needs to be correct in   /etc/resolv.conf

jerry

 
 Ivan
 
 On 3/28/07, Giorgos Keramidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On 2007-03-27 23:36, Ivan Zenzerovi? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi guys,
  i managed to install it, and, in fact I'm working on it right now.
  It's great, just tell me, I should compile my kernel at this point?
  And a question: I don't like this xorg, and I have installed KDE but
  how do I run KDE?
 
 Right after your first FreeBSD installation, you are certainly *not*
 expected to rush into rebuilding a kernel, for any reason.  In fact,
 this could be a dangerous exercise.  It's far too easy to build a kernel
 which lacks critical components, and render your system unbootable (at
 least unbootable without manual intervention).
 
 Since you are new to the FreeBSD system, my suggestion would be to
 forget about rebuilding kernels, optimizing compiler flags, and tweaking
 knobs here and there.  Now that you have a working FreeBSD installation
 you should *read* about the system you have just installed.
 
 There is a wealth of information about FreeBSD both in the CD-ROM set
 which you used to install it, and online.  You should, at least, check
 the following:
 
   * The README.TXT file at the toplevel directory of your
 installation CD-ROM.
 
   * The web pages at http://www.FreeBSD.org/docs.html
 
   * The FreeBSD FAQ book, at
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/
 
 The FAQ contains a lagre list of frequently asked questions
 about FreeBSD.  You will find answers there about a very
 diverse range of topics, including such obscure things as
 ``I managed to trash by boot loader, what should I do now?''.
 
   * The FreeBSD Handbook, at
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/
 
 The FreeBSD Handbook is the largest book written by the
 FreeBSD documentation team.  It is both a guide for the
 beginning user, and a common reference for administrators
 setting up services with FreeBSD.
 
 Your answer about KDE vs. X11 is already answered in the
 Handbook.
 
 Note that a copy of the Handbook and all the articles, books and
 other reference material related to the FreeBSD release you have
 just installed, are also conveniently available in the CD-ROM you
 used to install FreeBSD.  You can install them locally too, by
 logging in as root and running ``sysinstall'':
 
 # sysintall
 
 Follow the menus to add the ``doc'' distribution, and then you
 will have a copy of all the documentation articles and books at:
 
 /usr/share/doc
 
 Welcome to FreeBSD, and if you have other questions regarding its
 every day use and operation, feel free to email this list again :-)
 
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Re: Problems with SMP on 6.1-STABLE-200608

2007-03-28 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Don O'Neil [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I've been having problems with my server freezing up, having the #2 CPU
 'shut down', kernel panics, and all sorts of nastyness

 Originally I thought it was exim, or possibly bind, or bad hardware (mb, cpu
 or memory)... I've swapped out the motherboard  CPU's  memory from an old
 server that was running 4.11 ROCK SOLID for years...

 At first I thought the problem was solved, but now it's popping up again...
 The 2nd CPU gets 'shut down', or kernel panics, esentially taking the system
 offline.

There are lots of things this could be, and I certainly wouldn't rule
out hardware problems (power supply?).  Figuring out the problems
directly would certainly involve looking at more details than you're
listing here.

 If I install a single CPU (non-smp) kernel, then the system works fine... (I
 did this on the old motherboard before I swapped it out, and it worked fine
 too).. So I'm wondering if there is an SMP bug or problem I'm running into.

 I'm running 6.1-STABLE-200608, an ISO image I downloaded from the archives
 when I built the box (NOT 6.1-RELEASE). 

The whole point of making releases is that it's much easier to support
a small number of known reference software configurations.

 I'm runining an Intel Serverworks motherboard with 2 1.4 GHz PIII's... The
 problem only seems to show up under high load.

I don't think I've heard of anything similar.  I think there are a
bunch of these boards out there.

 I'm wondering what I should do here... 

 I'm concerned about doing a binary upgrade to 6.2 won't fix the problem, and
 I've tried using freebsd-update, but it complains about the version not
 being compatible. 

 If I do a binary upgrade from CD, will it also update the kernel sources so
 I can build a new one? Will it complain about it not being compatible?

It can give you the sources; that's a menu option during the install.
That should work fine.

 Is there a way to 'force' the ID of the system to be 6.1-RELEASE so that
 freebsd-update will work? 

Well, yes, but there's a reason for the check, you know...

 Will doing the 6.1-6.2 binary upgrade as posted by Colin also update the
 kernel sources? 

I don't know what procedure he described, so I don't know.  But if you
update to 6.2-RELEASE, then it will be easy to get the right sources
afterwards.  Again, that is the advantage of having releases.

 Would my best option really be to start over with a fresh install rather
 than upgrade? (this would be painful)

If it's that painful, you'd probably be well served to have a spare
system to stage changes on.  In addition to being good risk
management, it saves you time, which is worth something too.

 I'm going to try to test out 6.2 on the old MB/CPU combo to see if I can
 re-create it under 6.2 as well before I do anything. As well as try doing an
 upgrade on the bench from CD from 6.1-STABLE-200608 to 6.2-RELEASE... Since
 this is a production server (and for months it was burned in with no
 apparent issues) I only have 1 shot at this to do it right.

 Any help/recomendation would be appreciated.

Good luck.
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Re: Sound on an amilo pro notebook

2007-03-28 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Ghirai [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I'm trying to get the sound working on a Fujitsu Siemens
 Amilo Pro v3205 notebook.
 The datasheet says i have a Conexant AMOM soundcard.

 I've tried all drivers, but /dev/sndstat doesn't
 report anything being installed.

 I'm running 6.2 x86.

How do you know you tried all drivers?  
Did you load snd_driver?

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Re: New to FreeBSD

2007-03-28 Thread Lars Kristiansen

David J Brooks skrev:

On Wednesday 28 March 2007 09:08:30 am Ivan Zenzerović wrote:

hello again.

I made a mistake during post install config. I put a name that I don't want
for my computer, and when I logon as root it's written in the comand line.
How di I change it?

Ivan


Edit /etc/rc.conf .. find the line hostname=wrong name and change it to 
the name you prefer.





Maybe also edit /etc/hosts

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Re: Problems with SMP on 6.1-STABLE-200608

2007-03-28 Thread youshi10

On Wed, 28 Mar 2007, Lowell Gilbert wrote:


Don O'Neil [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


I've been having problems with my server freezing up, having the #2 CPU
'shut down', kernel panics, and all sorts of nastyness

Originally I thought it was exim, or possibly bind, or bad hardware (mb, cpu
or memory)... I've swapped out the motherboard  CPU's  memory from an old
server that was running 4.11 ROCK SOLID for years...

At first I thought the problem was solved, but now it's popping up again...
The 2nd CPU gets 'shut down', or kernel panics, esentially taking the system
offline.


There are lots of things this could be, and I certainly wouldn't rule
out hardware problems (power supply?).  Figuring out the problems
directly would certainly involve looking at more details than you're
listing here.


If I install a single CPU (non-smp) kernel, then the system works fine... (I
did this on the old motherboard before I swapped it out, and it worked fine
too).. So I'm wondering if there is an SMP bug or problem I'm running into.

I'm running 6.1-STABLE-200608, an ISO image I downloaded from the archives
when I built the box (NOT 6.1-RELEASE).


The whole point of making releases is that it's much easier to support
a small number of known reference software configurations.


I'm runining an Intel Serverworks motherboard with 2 1.4 GHz PIII's... The
problem only seems to show up under high load.


I don't think I've heard of anything similar.  I think there are a
bunch of these boards out there.


I'm wondering what I should do here...

I'm concerned about doing a binary upgrade to 6.2 won't fix the problem, and
I've tried using freebsd-update, but it complains about the version not
being compatible.

If I do a binary upgrade from CD, will it also update the kernel sources so
I can build a new one? Will it complain about it not being compatible?


It can give you the sources; that's a menu option during the install.
That should work fine.


Is there a way to 'force' the ID of the system to be 6.1-RELEASE so that
freebsd-update will work?


Well, yes, but there's a reason for the check, you know...


Will doing the 6.1-6.2 binary upgrade as posted by Colin also update the
kernel sources?


I don't know what procedure he described, so I don't know.  But if you
update to 6.2-RELEASE, then it will be easy to get the right sources
afterwards.  Again, that is the advantage of having releases.


Would my best option really be to start over with a fresh install rather
than upgrade? (this would be painful)


If it's that painful, you'd probably be well served to have a spare
system to stage changes on.  In addition to being good risk
management, it saves you time, which is worth something too.


I'm going to try to test out 6.2 on the old MB/CPU combo to see if I can
re-create it under 6.2 as well before I do anything. As well as try doing an
upgrade on the bench from CD from 6.1-STABLE-200608 to 6.2-RELEASE... Since
this is a production server (and for months it was burned in with no
apparent issues) I only have 1 shot at this to do it right.

Any help/recomendation would be appreciated.


Good luck.


Honestly I would probe around your motherboard a bit checking voltages (power 
supply) and/or heat dissipation, because those are the most likely cases if it 
_only_ fails under high load. Next thing to check would be RAM integrity.

-Garrett

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Re: How Write To Win Drive?

2007-03-28 Thread Kevin Kinsey

Stan Cooper wrote:

Kevin Kinsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stan Cooper wrote:
Roland Smith  wrote:Try /usr/ports/sysutils/fusefs-ntfs 
instead. It's newer and is supposed to support writing. 

Hmm. Well, there's no such port in FBSD. 

Are you certain?

[EMAIL PROTECTED]/usr/ports]
uname -s
FreeBSD

[EMAIL PROTECTED]/usr/ports]
ll IN*6
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  9888013 Feb  6 09:33 INDEX-6

[EMAIL PROTECTED]/usr/ports]
ll sysutils/fusefs-ntfs
total 1
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  1075 Feb 20 21:25 Makefile
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   214 Feb 20 21:25 distinfo
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel   512 Jan 21 02:09 files/
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   354 Dec  5 16:56 pkg-descr
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   840 Dec  5 16:15 pkg-plist


Geez, well I just copied your commands directly and, naturally, 
the first two went without a hitch, but the last one gave me 
No such file or directory, and yes, I did that from /usr/ports


Well, hmm

What was the date of the INDEX file?  Where did your ports tree
come from, and when was it last updated?  I'd be willing to stick
my neck out and boldly guess that it was prior to 6 Dec last year ;-)


I built this system this year. So you'd think it'd be there, right?


Built it how?  With what installation media?  What does uname -a say?

The date of the build doesn't logically prove much.  To play 
devil's advocate, if I built a 4.10 system from CD-ROM  _yesterday_ 
and installed the ports collection from its CD, I'd not expect to 
find a port added 4 months ago.  The certainty of the port's existence 
depends on other factors, and until we know more about your 
system/situation, we can't play Carnac the Magnificent. :-)



I wouldn't know; but I'd try the port, because if it failed
I might get some support from this community.


Well, let's hope some help's forthcoming ;)


Touche.  I'm thinking that you may already be familiar with the
Handbook's Chapter 4 --- I'd look also at Chapter 22 (The Cutting
Edge) with the realization (and this might be a shortcoming of the book,
but I've not done enough recent reading to say) that the process of
updating your system (base system, that is, FreeBSD) shares a good
many similarities with keeping the Ports Collection updated.

If you have cvsup installed, take a look at the ports-supfile in
/usr/share/examples/cvsup --- it shouldn't be too difficult to get
a ports collection that contains this port.  What may happen after that,
I can't say --- YMMV, #include disclaimer.h and all that.

Finally, here's a couple of classics from my Bookmark collection 
that deal with keeping ports up-to-date.  AFAIK, they are still

pretty applicable today, with the exception of the fact that
portupgrade isn't the only way to do this anymore --- I think
the first one (Dru Lavigne's article) has all the procedure in gory
detail:

  http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2003/08/28/FreeBSD_Basics.html
  http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2001/11/29/Big_Scary_Daemons.html

Hopefully this is at least a start at community support. :-)

Best of luck,

Kevin Kinsey
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Re: hi

2007-03-28 Thread Kevin Kinsey

Jerry McAllister wrote:

On Tue, Mar 27, 2007 at 09:39:10PM -0400, Drew White wrote:


Hi Jerry, installed the system. Now getting a terrible message video input
'out of range' on both my monitors... one showsup partially distorted and
the other not at all
. It worked find on the friends monitor who installed it for me, so i guess
its a difference in the monitor and nothe computer .

Can you tell me how to get 'in range'? This is weird! Both normal monitors,
out of the box!


There is no such thing as a normal monitor.  There are just monitors.

Unless the two are the same make/model, you can't expect the configuration
set up for Monitor A to work on Monitor B; which is why you have this
problem.  Ok, well, technically you could expect it to, but I'd predict
disappointment about 50% of the time

See the Handbook, Chapter 5, and specifically 5.4, X11 Configuration.
If you can't use a X-enabled browser to do this, drop to console and
try lynx (/usr/ports/www/lynx) from the command line.

HTH,

Kevin Kinsey
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Re: How Write To Win Drive?

2007-03-28 Thread Eric

Kevin Kinsey wrote:


Finally, here's a couple of classics from my Bookmark collection that 
deal with keeping ports up-to-date.  AFAIK, they are still

pretty applicable today, with the exception of the fact that
portupgrade isn't the only way to do this anymore --- I think
the first one (Dru Lavigne's article) has all the procedure in gory
detail:

  http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2003/08/28/FreeBSD_Basics.html
  http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2001/11/29/Big_Scary_Daemons.html

Hopefully this is at least a start at community support. :-)

Best of luck,

Kevin Kinsey


use portsnap if you havent already updated your ports. its built in and 
very simple to use


man portsnap

to get started

Eric
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RE: Time changed back to old daylight savings

2007-03-28 Thread Don O'Neil
I mean 6.1-stable 
Uname shows: FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE-200608 #0

It was installed from a snapshot ISO last summer.  

-Original Message-
From: Kris Kennaway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 1:05 AM
To: Don O'Neil
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Time changed back to old daylight savings

On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 12:45:11AM -0700, Don O'Neil wrote:
 I'm not sure when this happened, but I noticed today that my server 
 reverted back to the old daylight savings time (1 hour off) When I 
 run ntpdate and have it update it even then it shows the wrong time.
 
 I haven't done anything to replace the /etc/localtime file, even tried 
 running tzsetup again, but that still didn't help.
 
 My system is FreeBSD 6.1-stable, the only thing that has changed since 
 I last noticed the system had the _right_ time was I built a new kernel.

There is no such thing as 6.1-stable any more, so what do you really mean?

Kris

 I tried installing the port 'zoneinfo', but it's broken, it can't find 
 the appropriate file to download and install (seems to be missing or
updated).
 
 At the moment I've addressed the issue with a date -v +1H.
 
 Any reason this would happen? How do I fix it?
 
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RE: Time changed back to old daylight savings

2007-03-28 Thread Don O'Neil
Well, since I didn't install it from source, but a snapshot, I don't have
the northamerica source to get an MD5 # on.

Isn't there some other way to update the zone info files to fix this? 

-Original Message-
From: Jonathan Chen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 1:03 AM
To: Don O'Neil
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Time changed back to old daylight savings

On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 12:45:11AM -0700, Don O'Neil wrote:
 I'm not sure when this happened, but I noticed today that my server 
 reverted back to the old daylight savings time (1 hour off) When I 
 run ntpdate and have it update it even then it shows the wrong time.

This tends to indicate the your /etc/localtime file is wrong. The
timeservers all return UTC; the display for the date consults /etc/localtime
to display UTC time in local time.

 I haven't done anything to replace the /etc/localtime file, even tried 
 running tzsetup again, but that still didn't help.

This indicates that your zoneinfo files have not been updated correctly.

[...]
 At the moment I've addressed the issue with a date -v +1H.

Which definitely isn't the correct fix.

 Any reason this would happen? How do I fix it?

What does md5 /usr/src/share/zoneinfo/northamerica return? (I'm assuming
that you're in North America). On my 6-STABLE machine it's:

 MD5 (/usr/src/share/zoneinfo/northamerica) =
3e582e371f445a18b065eed8f775fb20

Any other result means that your should re-cvsup, and rebuild your system
again. If it is the same, make sure your zoneinfo files have been rebuilt
(check the file timestamps).

Cheers.
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Re: the art of pkgdb -F

2007-03-28 Thread Kevin Kinsey

Jeffrey Goldberg wrote:

On Mar 27, 2007, at 8:34 PM, Josh Carroll wrote:

Stale dependency: p5-Authen-SASL-2.09 - p5-GSSAPI-0.24 
(security/p5-GSSAPI):

p5-Geography-Countries-1.4 (score:26%) ? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [no]


Well this one is pretty obvious. Look at what the stale dependency is,
and what it's suggesting? :)


To me it is entirely unclear.  First of all, I don't know what stale 
dependency is supposed to mean.  Second, I don't know what score 
means, and finally, I don't know what the question is that I'm to answer 
yes, no or all to.


I could attempt, but it's easier to type See below.

So I've just taken to running with -Fa and hope for the best (and so far 
everything has worked).


This makes you pretty normal, I expect.

If the answers to these questions are in the man page for pkgdb, I 
apologize, but I haven't found them there.


Here is a time-honored and rather canonical diatribe on The Art of 
Pkgdb -F (a great thread title, BTW).  Note also that it is nearly

six years old, and that additional package-management tools have been
proposed, created, and released to the public, and some may have already
been EOL'ed and buried, but the rest of them aren't considered standard 
by any means, and currently the FreeBSD world is in a pseudo-Biblical

every man did as he saw fit state these days[1].

  http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2001/11/29/Big_Scary_Daemons.html

Of course, (and here's a rather large can of worms), there weren't {m?}any
alternatives back in the day, the the tools that are 'officially' documented
became standard more or less by default.  (and, come to think of it, are
they at all, if so, where, etc., etc.)

HTH, `cat flames  /dev/null 21`,

Kevin Kinsey

[1] Since the punishment for these transgressions is basically just
a temporal make deinstall under /usr/ports followed by 2-4 days of
rebuilding, (more if KDE/GNOME is installed, but not much as opposed 
to eternal flame/torment), I suppose it's OK to let everybody fend 
for themselves with whatever tool they like best. One thing you'll 
notice about the BSDs is that since they are traditional Unix-like 
systems, a lot of folks stick to traditions pretty closely.

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Re: Time changed back to old daylight savings

2007-03-28 Thread Kevin Kinsey

Don O'Neil wrote:

Well, since I didn't install it from source, but a snapshot, I don't have
the northamerica source to get an MD5 # on.

Isn't there some other way to update the zone info files to fix this? 



The failed download is because the source file changed at the
external source.  You might hack the Makefile to read c instead
of b (or whatnot) on that file and have the port work, although
you might then have verification problems.

The other way was discussed recently on the list.  Search the
archives, late February, early March.

Good luck,

Kevin Kinsey
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Re: Time changed back to old daylight savings

2007-03-28 Thread Kevin Kinsey

Don O'Neil wrote:

Well, since I didn't install it from source, but a snapshot, I don't have
the northamerica source to get an MD5 # on.


Sorry, you could also update your ports tree and install
the port.

KDK
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iwi-firmware port

2007-03-28 Thread Timothy Radigan
Hey all,

 

I installed the iwi-firmware and iwi-firmware-kmod ports and I am now

trying to load specific firmware on the iwi adapter but it keeps failing. 

The port installs fine and puts the firmware to /boot/firmware.  The docs

for iwicontrol state to load firmware for a specific function issue a:

 

iwicontrol -i iwi0 -d /boot/firmware -m bss

 

Every time I issue that command I get an error saying it cannot load

firmware: Invalid argument.

 

The system is FreeBSD 6.2 with an Intel PRO Wireless 2200BG adapter.  I

have the most up to date stable source and ports tree.

 

I also tried the ipw-firmware port but that did not pick up my adapter

when I loaded the kernel module.

 

Any ideas?

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Re: hi

2007-03-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 28/03/07, Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Tue, Mar 27, 2007 at 09:39:10PM -0400, Drew White wrote:

 Hi Jerry, installed the system. Now getting a terrible message video input
 'out of range' on both my monitors... one showsup partially distorted and
 the other not at all
 . It worked find on the friends monitor who installed it for me, so i guess
 its a difference in the monitor and nothe computer .

 Can you tell me how to get 'in range'? This is weird! Both normal monitors,
 out of the box!

Please do not post questions back to me personally.
It is considered to be very bad Email list etiquette.
Post them to the questions list.   That is the proper
way.

The second reason, besides etiquette is that the single person may
well not know the answer and you are cutting yourself short by
not posting to the list.



The thrydde reason being that should someone wish
to search for answers through the archive, the whole
conversation will be there, failures, followups, (likely)
correct answers, and all.

As for the monitor, you can try hand editing your
/etc/X11/xorg.conf (or whichever you may be using)
and changing the sync ranges to match yours.
A fair database can be found at:
http://monitorworld.com/monitors_home.html


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Re: New to FreeBSD

2007-03-28 Thread Ivan Zenzerović

Thanks, i managed to fix this by running the post install configuration with
sysinstall. But I have another problem. Every time i start the system my
soundcard won't work. I must tipe kldload snd_driver and then logoff and
again logon in kde to get my soundcard working. How can i fix this?

Ivan

On 3/28/07, Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 04:08:30PM +0200, Ivan Zenzerovi? wrote:

 hello again.

 I made a mistake during post install config. I put a name that I don't
want
 for my computer, and when I logon as root it's written in the comand
line.
 How di I change it?

Presuming by that that you mean your hostname, then that is
set in /etc/rc.conf --  look for the hostname command and
edit it. It is best if it has the fully qualified hostname
including domain, not just the first (left-most) element of it.

If you are using this machine on the net, then that hostname has
to be registered with who-ever is providing DNS for you.  So,
whatever you set it to needs to be what is registered and matches
the IP address you have for the machine.   In addition, the domain
name needs to be correct in   /etc/resolv.conf

jerry


 Ivan

 On 3/28/07, Giorgos Keramidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On 2007-03-27 23:36, Ivan Zenzerovi? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi guys,
  i managed to install it, and, in fact I'm working on it right now.
  It's great, just tell me, I should compile my kernel at this point?
  And a question: I don't like this xorg, and I have installed KDE but
  how do I run KDE?
 
 Right after your first FreeBSD installation, you are certainly *not*
 expected to rush into rebuilding a kernel, for any reason.  In fact,
 this could be a dangerous exercise.  It's far too easy to build a
kernel
 which lacks critical components, and render your system unbootable (at
 least unbootable without manual intervention).
 
 Since you are new to the FreeBSD system, my suggestion would be to
 forget about rebuilding kernels, optimizing compiler flags, and
tweaking
 knobs here and there.  Now that you have a working FreeBSD installation
 you should *read* about the system you have just installed.
 
 There is a wealth of information about FreeBSD both in the CD-ROM set
 which you used to install it, and online.  You should, at least, check
 the following:
 
   * The README.TXT file at the toplevel directory of your
 installation CD-ROM.
 
   * The web pages at http://www.FreeBSD.org/docs.html
 
   * The FreeBSD FAQ book, at
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/
 
 The FAQ contains a lagre list of frequently asked questions
 about FreeBSD.  You will find answers there about a very
 diverse range of topics, including such obscure things as
 ``I managed to trash by boot loader, what should I do now?''.
 
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RE: Time changed back to old daylight savings

2007-03-28 Thread Don O'Neil
Ok,  Thanks to Paul who sent me the previous tzdata file I was able to
download the port and install it... However that didn't solve the problem!

Here's my output from the make/make install:

make install
===  Installing for zoneinfo-2007.c
===   Generating temporary packing list
===  Checking if misc/zoneinfo already installed
/bin/mkdir -p /usr/share/zoneinfo
/bin/cp -R -p /home/don/zoneinfo/work/zoneinfo/ /usr/share/zoneinfo
install  -o root -g wheel -m 444 /home/don/zoneinfo/work/zone.tab
/usr/share/zon einfo
Now run tzsetup(8) again to install the right file to /etc/localtime.
===   Registering installation for zoneinfo-2007.c

kermit# date
Wed Mar 28 09:37:23 PDT 2007

kermit# /usr/sbin/ntpdate -v -b 0.us.pool.ntp.org
28 Mar 09:37:27 ntpdate[52308]: ntpdate 4.2.0-a Mon Aug  7 17:44:27 UTC 2006
(1)
28 Mar 09:37:29 ntpdate[52308]: step time server 204.186.233.118 offset
3583.019  

I ran tzsetup and then ran ntpdate.

It was 10:37 when I ran ntpdate Not 9:37.

This is strange... Any more ideas?

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Re: Time changed back to old daylight savings

2007-03-28 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 09:11:27AM -0700, Don O'Neil wrote:
 I mean 6.1-stable 
 Uname shows: FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE-200608 #0
 
 It was installed from a snapshot ISO last summer.  

OK, so you're running an 8 month stale snapshot and you wonder why you
don't have the recent timezone updates?  What is wrong with this
picture? :-)

Kris
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RE: Time changed back to old daylight savings

2007-03-28 Thread Don O'Neil
PDT, as it shows.

  _  

From: Paul Khavkine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 10:51 AM
To: Don O'Neil
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Time changed back to old daylight savings



Hi Don.


What timezone are you supposed to be in ?


Paul



On 3/28/07, Don O'Neil   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

Ok,  Thanks to Paul who sent me the previous tzdata file I was able to 
download the port and install it... However that didn't solve the problem!

Here's my output from the make/make install:

make install
===  Installing for zoneinfo-2007.c
===   Generating temporary packing list 
===  Checking if misc/zoneinfo already installed
/bin/mkdir -p /usr/share/zoneinfo
/bin/cp -R -p /home/don/zoneinfo/work/zoneinfo/ /usr/share/zoneinfo
install  -o root -g wheel -m 444 /home/don/zoneinfo/work/zone.tab 
/usr/share/zon einfo
Now run tzsetup(8) again to install the right file to /etc/localtime.
===   Registering installation for zoneinfo-2007.c

kermit# date
Wed Mar 28 09:37:23 PDT 2007 

kermit# /usr/sbin/ntpdate -v -b 0.us.pool.ntp.org
28 Mar 09:37:27 ntpdate[52308]: ntpdate 4.2.0-a Mon Aug  7 17:44:27 UTC 2006
(1)
28 Mar 09:37:29 ntpdate[52308]: step time server 204.186.233.118 offset
3583.019

I ran tzsetup and then ran ntpdate.

It was 10:37 when I ran ntpdate Not 9:37.

This is strange... Any more ideas?

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RE: Time changed back to old daylight savings

2007-03-28 Thread Don O'Neil
Well... If you read about the original timezone issue it was fixed in
6.1-release, so any snapshot AFTER that shouldn't have the problem... And
I'll re-itterate that it WAS working fine until I recently re-built the
kernel. Even with the timezone port update installed it is still wrong. 

-Original Message-
From: Kris Kennaway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 10:49 AM
To: Don O'Neil
Cc: 'Kris Kennaway'; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Time changed back to old daylight savings

On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 09:11:27AM -0700, Don O'Neil wrote:
 I mean 6.1-stable 
 Uname shows: FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE-200608 #0
 
 It was installed from a snapshot ISO last summer.  

OK, so you're running an 8 month stale snapshot and you wonder why you don't
have the recent timezone updates?  What is wrong with this picture? :-)

Kris

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Re: Time changed back to old daylight savings

2007-03-28 Thread Jeff Palmer



 It was installed from a snapshot ISO last summer.

OK, so you're running an 8 month stale snapshot and you wonder why you
don't have the recent timezone updates?  What is wrong with this
picture? :-)

Kris


Not to be a smartass,  but the energy conservation act was passed in 
2005,   so one would think an 8 month old snapshot would include a 
fix that has been known about for 2 years ;)


Jeff

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Re: Time changed back to old daylight savings

2007-03-28 Thread Paul Khavkine

Hi Don.


What timezone are you supposed to be in ?


Paul


On 3/28/07, Don O'Neil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Ok,  Thanks to Paul who sent me the previous tzdata file I was able to
download the port and install it... However that didn't solve the problem!

Here's my output from the make/make install:

make install
===  Installing for zoneinfo-2007.c
===   Generating temporary packing list
===  Checking if misc/zoneinfo already installed
/bin/mkdir -p /usr/share/zoneinfo
/bin/cp -R -p /home/don/zoneinfo/work/zoneinfo/ /usr/share/zoneinfo
install  -o root -g wheel -m 444 /home/don/zoneinfo/work/zone.tab
/usr/share/zon einfo
Now run tzsetup(8) again to install the right file to /etc/localtime.
===   Registering installation for zoneinfo-2007.c

kermit# date
Wed Mar 28 09:37:23 PDT 2007

kermit# /usr/sbin/ntpdate -v -b 0.us.pool.ntp.org
28 Mar 09:37:27 ntpdate[52308]: ntpdate 4.2.0-a Mon Aug  7 17:44:27 UTC
2006
(1)
28 Mar 09:37:29 ntpdate[52308]: step time server 204.186.233.118 offset
3583.019

I ran tzsetup and then ran ntpdate.

It was 10:37 when I ran ntpdate Not 9:37.

This is strange... Any more ideas?

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Re: Time changed back to old daylight savings

2007-03-28 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 02:12:42PM -0400, Jeff Palmer wrote:
 
  It was installed from a snapshot ISO last summer.
 
 OK, so you're running an 8 month stale snapshot and you wonder why you
 don't have the recent timezone updates?  What is wrong with this
 picture? :-)
 
 Kris
 
 Not to be a smartass,  but the energy conservation act was passed in 
 2005,   so one would think an 8 month old snapshot would include a 
 fix that has been known about for 2 years ;)

One might hope or guess that, but it would be in contradiction to the
facts, and the published advisories.

Kris
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Help

2007-03-28 Thread Lumbu, Mfumuke
Hi! 
 
I want to play FreeBSD image with my VM player how can i do it?
Thanks
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Re: New to FreeBSD

2007-03-28 Thread Kevin Kinsey

Ivan Zenzerović wrote:
Thanks, i managed to fix this by running the post install configuration 
with

sysinstall. But I have another problem. Every time i start the system my
soundcard won't work. I must tipe kldload snd_driver and then logoff and
again logon in kde to get my soundcard working. How can i fix this?


In short, add:

snd_driver_load=YES

to /boot/loader.conf.

However, it'd be better to figure out which of the umpty-leven
drivers is really being used, and only load it.  See snd(4)
for more details.

Kevin Kinsey
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Re: Time changed back to old daylight savings

2007-03-28 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 11:02:33AM -0700, Don O'Neil wrote:
 Well... If you read about the original timezone issue it was fixed in
 6.1-release

Um, no.  Where did you read that?

Kris
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Re: Time changed back to old daylight savings

2007-03-28 Thread Paul Khavkine

To see if you zonefile is correct you can do the following:


%zdump -v /etc/localtime  | grep 2007

/etc/localtime  Sun Mar 11 06:59:59 2007 UTC = Sun Mar 11 01:59:59 2007 EST
isdst=0 gmtoff=-18000
/etc/localtime  Sun Mar 11 07:00:00 2007 UTC = Sun Mar 11 03:00:00 2007 EDT
isdst=1 gmtoff=-14400
/etc/localtime  Sun Nov  4 05:59:59 2007 UTC = Sun Nov  4 01:59:59 2007 EDT
isdst=1 gmtoff=-14400
/etc/localtime  Sun Nov  4 06:00:00 2007 UTC = Sun Nov  4 01:00:00 2007 EST
isdst=0 gmtoff=-18000


On 3/28/07, Jeff Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



  It was installed from a snapshot ISO last summer.

OK, so you're running an 8 month stale snapshot and you wonder why you
don't have the recent timezone updates?  What is wrong with this
picture? :-)

Kris

Not to be a smartass,  but the energy conservation act was passed in
2005,   so one would think an 8 month old snapshot would include a
fix that has been known about for 2 years ;)

Jeff

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Re: New to FreeBSD

2007-03-28 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2007-03-28 19:43, Ivan Zenzerovi? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks, i managed to fix this by running the post install
 configuration with sysinstall. But I have another problem. Every time
 i start the system my soundcard won't work. I must tipe kldload
 snd_driver and then logoff and again logon in kde to get my soundcard
 working. How can i fix this?

Add the line:

snd_driver_load=YES

in your /boot/loader.conf file.

This way the kernel will preload the sound driver modules when it boots,
and you won't have to load them manually.

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Re: Time changed back to old daylight savings

2007-03-28 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Don O'Neil [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Ok,  Thanks to Paul who sent me the previous tzdata file I was able to
 download the port and install it... However that didn't solve the problem!

 Here's my output from the make/make install:

 make install
 ===  Installing for zoneinfo-2007.c
 ===   Generating temporary packing list
 ===  Checking if misc/zoneinfo already installed
 /bin/mkdir -p /usr/share/zoneinfo
 /bin/cp -R -p /home/don/zoneinfo/work/zoneinfo/ /usr/share/zoneinfo
 install  -o root -g wheel -m 444 /home/don/zoneinfo/work/zone.tab
 /usr/share/zon einfo
 Now run tzsetup(8) again to install the right file to /etc/localtime.
 ===   Registering installation for zoneinfo-2007.c

 kermit# date
 Wed Mar 28 09:37:23 PDT 2007

 kermit# /usr/sbin/ntpdate -v -b 0.us.pool.ntp.org
 28 Mar 09:37:27 ntpdate[52308]: ntpdate 4.2.0-a Mon Aug  7 17:44:27 UTC 2006
 (1)
 28 Mar 09:37:29 ntpdate[52308]: step time server 204.186.233.118 offset
 3583.019  

 I ran tzsetup and then ran ntpdate.

 It was 10:37 when I ran ntpdate Not 9:37.

 This is strange... Any more ideas?

You didn't update your ports tree before installing the port, I'll
bet.  That was an essential part of the advice that Kevin Kinsey gave
you.  
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How to get watchdogd from biting me!?

2007-03-28 Thread Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET
Hi,

I'm starting it with :

watchdogd -s 15 -t 120 -e logger I'm gonna hurl

And sometimes within a few minutes it reboots, and
other times its hours... But at no time was the system inactive
(I've been on it 3 of 4 reboots) and its never logged that
for me either.

What am I doing wrong??

Thanks, Tuc
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fsck fails on 6T system

2007-03-28 Thread Dan D Niles
I am trying to fsck a 6T filesystem on a server that crashed.  I'm
running FreeBSD 6.2-p3.

# fsck -t ufs -y /dev/da0
fsck_ufs: cannot alloc 1993797728 bytes for inoinfo

I also tried:

# fsck -t ufs -f -p /dev/da0
/dev/da0: UNKNOWN FILE TYPE I=11895232
/dev/da0: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY.


I built a custom kernel with MAXDSIZ and DFLDSIZ just under 3G, and got
the same results.  It was at about 430M in use when it crashed, so the
total would be 2332 M which is less that the size allowed (reported by
limits).

I found an old bug report from 2004 that is still open, but nothing has
been done.   I also found an old article about someone (thinking about)
rewriting fsck to use disk instead of memory, but no follow-up.

Has anyone found a solution to this?

Any suggestions?

HELP!

Thanks,

Dan


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RE: Time changed back to old daylight savings

2007-03-28 Thread Don O'Neil
http://www.freebsd.org/releng/dst_info.html

FreeBSD-6.1 has correct zoneinfo files for time zones in the United States
of America 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kris Kennaway
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 11:06 AM
To: Don O'Neil
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; 'Kris Kennaway'
Subject: Re: Time changed back to old daylight savings

On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 11:02:33AM -0700, Don O'Neil wrote:
 Well... If you read about the original timezone issue it was fixed in 
 6.1-release

Um, no.  Where did you read that?

Kris
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Can iostat(8) report on gmirror devices?

2007-03-28 Thread Doug Poland
Hello,

I've grown quite fond of iostat(8) for monitoring various i386 6.x
servers and  have several boxes using gmirror(8).  It appears that
iostat will not accept things like gm0 as a drive argument.  Is that
a feature or am I missing something.


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RE: Time changed back to old daylight savings

2007-03-28 Thread Don O'Neil
I don't have the port tree installed, so you are correct that I did not
update them first... I installed JUST the zoneinfo port, which according to:

http://www.freebsd.org/releng/dst_info.html

the misc/zoneinfo port can be installed to update the /usr/share/zoneinfo
files, followed by running tzsetup(8) to update /etc/localtime

So why wouldn't installing this port fix the problem like advertised? I
shouldn't even have the problem to begin with... When the time change
happened a few weeks ago my system updated correctly, but since then I've
built a new kernel (the only thing I've done) and now it's not right.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lowell Gilbert
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 11:08 AM
To: Don O'Neil
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Time changed back to old daylight savings

Don O'Neil [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Ok,  Thanks to Paul who sent me the previous tzdata file I was able to 
 download the port and install it... However that didn't solve the problem!

 Here's my output from the make/make install:

 make install
 ===  Installing for zoneinfo-2007.c
 ===   Generating temporary packing list
 ===  Checking if misc/zoneinfo already installed /bin/mkdir -p 
 /usr/share/zoneinfo /bin/cp -R -p /home/don/zoneinfo/work/zoneinfo/ 
 /usr/share/zoneinfo install  -o root -g wheel -m 444 
 /home/don/zoneinfo/work/zone.tab
 /usr/share/zon einfo
 Now run tzsetup(8) again to install the right file to /etc/localtime.
 ===   Registering installation for zoneinfo-2007.c

 kermit# date
 Wed Mar 28 09:37:23 PDT 2007

 kermit# /usr/sbin/ntpdate -v -b 0.us.pool.ntp.org
 28 Mar 09:37:27 ntpdate[52308]: ntpdate 4.2.0-a Mon Aug  7 17:44:27 
 UTC 2006
 (1)
 28 Mar 09:37:29 ntpdate[52308]: step time server 204.186.233.118 
 offset
 3583.019

 I ran tzsetup and then ran ntpdate.

 It was 10:37 when I ran ntpdate Not 9:37.

 This is strange... Any more ideas?

You didn't update your ports tree before installing the port, I'll bet.
That was an essential part of the advice that Kevin Kinsey gave you.  
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RE: Time changed back to old daylight savings

2007-03-28 Thread Don O'Neil
Yup... thats what I get:
 
%zdump -v /etc/localtime | grep 2007
/etc/localtime  Sun Mar 11 09:59:59 2007 UTC = Sun Mar 11 01:59:59 2007 PST
isdst=0 gmtoff=-28800
/etc/localtime  Sun Mar 11 10:00:00 2007 UTC = Sun Mar 11 03:00:00 2007 PDT
isdst=1 gmtoff=-25200
/etc/localtime  Sun Nov  4 08:59:59 2007 UTC = Sun Nov  4 01:59:59 2007 PDT
isdst=1 gmtoff=-25200
/etc/localtime  Sun Nov  4 09:00:00 2007 UTC = Sun Nov  4 01:00:00 2007 PST
isdst=0 gmtoff=-28800

So it looks like my zone info files are correct... could the ntp pool be off
for some reason, or does ntpdate need to be updated?
 
28 Mar 10:53:51 ntpdate[90706]: ntpdate 4.2.0-a Mon Aug  7 17:44:27 UTC 2006
(1)

  _  

From: Paul Khavkine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 11:31 AM
To: Jeff Palmer
Cc: Kris Kennaway; Don O'Neil; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Time changed back to old daylight savings


To see if you zonefile is correct you can do the following:


%zdump -v /etc/localtime  | grep 2007

/etc/localtime  Sun Mar 11 06:59:59 2007 UTC = Sun Mar 11 01:59:59 2007 EST
isdst=0 gmtoff=-18000
/etc/localtime  Sun Mar 11 07:00:00 2007 UTC = Sun Mar 11 03:00:00 2007 EDT
isdst=1 gmtoff=-14400 
/etc/localtime  Sun Nov  4 05:59:59 2007 UTC = Sun Nov  4 01:59:59 2007 EDT
isdst=1 gmtoff=-14400
/etc/localtime  Sun Nov  4 06:00:00 2007 UTC = Sun Nov  4 01:00:00 2007 EST
isdst=0 gmtoff=-18000



On 3/28/07, Jeff Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 


  It was installed from a snapshot ISO last summer.

OK, so you're running an 8 month stale snapshot and you wonder why you
don't have the recent timezone updates?  What is wrong with this 
picture? :-)

Kris

Not to be a smartass,  but the energy conservation act was passed in
2005,   so one would think an 8 month old snapshot would include a
fix that has been known about for 2 years ;) 

Jeff

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RE: Time changed back to old daylight savings

2007-03-28 Thread Don O'Neil
Pacific, which is what my date output shows:

Wed Mar 28 10:55:26 PDT 2007 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Khavkine
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 10:51 AM
To: Don O'Neil
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Time changed back to old daylight savings

Hi Don.


What timezone are you supposed to be in ?


Paul


On 3/28/07, Don O'Neil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ok,  Thanks to Paul who sent me the previous tzdata file I was able to 
 download the port and install it... However that didn't solve the problem!

 Here's my output from the make/make install:

 make install
 ===  Installing for zoneinfo-2007.c
 ===   Generating temporary packing list
 ===  Checking if misc/zoneinfo already installed /bin/mkdir -p 
 /usr/share/zoneinfo /bin/cp -R -p /home/don/zoneinfo/work/zoneinfo/ 
 /usr/share/zoneinfo install  -o root -g wheel -m 444 
 /home/don/zoneinfo/work/zone.tab
 /usr/share/zon einfo
 Now run tzsetup(8) again to install the right file to /etc/localtime.
 ===   Registering installation for zoneinfo-2007.c

 kermit# date
 Wed Mar 28 09:37:23 PDT 2007

 kermit# /usr/sbin/ntpdate -v -b 0.us.pool.ntp.org
 28 Mar 09:37:27 ntpdate[52308]: ntpdate 4.2.0-a Mon Aug  7 17:44:27 
 UTC
 2006
 (1)
 28 Mar 09:37:29 ntpdate[52308]: step time server 204.186.233.118 
 offset
 3583.019

 I ran tzsetup and then ran ntpdate.

 It was 10:37 when I ran ntpdate Not 9:37.

 This is strange... Any more ideas?

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Re: Time changed back to old daylight savings

2007-03-28 Thread Paul Khavkine

Well AFAIK, the recent changes only affect EST/EDT and not the PDT timezone.


Paul


On 3/28/07, Don O'Neil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 PDT, as it shows.

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*Sent:* Wednesday, March 28, 2007 10:51 AM
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Hi Don.


What timezone are you supposed to be in ?


Paul


On 3/28/07, Don O'Neil  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ok,  Thanks to Paul who sent me the previous tzdata file I was able to
 download the port and install it... However that didn't solve the
 problem!

 Here's my output from the make/make install:

 make install
 ===  Installing for zoneinfo-2007.c
 ===   Generating temporary packing list
 ===  Checking if misc/zoneinfo already installed
 /bin/mkdir -p /usr/share/zoneinfo
 /bin/cp -R -p /home/don/zoneinfo/work/zoneinfo/ /usr/share/zoneinfo
 install  -o root -g wheel -m 444 /home/don/zoneinfo/work/zone.tab
 /usr/share/zon einfo
 Now run tzsetup(8) again to install the right file to /etc/localtime.
 ===   Registering installation for zoneinfo-2007.c

 kermit# date
 Wed Mar 28 09:37:23 PDT 2007

 kermit# /usr/sbin/ntpdate -v -b 0.us.pool.ntp.org
 28 Mar 09:37:27 ntpdate[52308]: ntpdate 4.2.0-a Mon Aug  7 17:44:27 UTC
 2006
 (1)
 28 Mar 09:37:29 ntpdate[52308]: step time server 204.186.233.118 offset
 3583.019

 I ran tzsetup and then ran ntpdate.

 It was 10:37 when I ran ntpdate Not 9:37.

 This is strange... Any more ideas?

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Re: Time changed back to old daylight savings

2007-03-28 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 11:47:39AM -0700, Don O'Neil wrote:
 http://www.freebsd.org/releng/dst_info.html
 
 FreeBSD-6.1 has correct zoneinfo files for time zones in the United States
 of America 

OK, yes you are right.  I was confused by your statement that 6.1
shipped with fixed timezone files, since it did not [unless you only
care about the U.S.] :)

Kris
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Re: New to FreeBSD

2007-03-28 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Ivan Zenzerović [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Thanks, i managed to fix this by running the post install configuration with
 sysinstall. But I have another problem. Every time i start the system my
 soundcard won't work. I must tipe kldload snd_driver and then logoff and
 again logon in kde to get my soundcard working. How can i fix this?

Use loader.conf(5).  This is covered in the handbook:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/sound-setup.html
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Re: Time changed back to old daylight savings

2007-03-28 Thread Chuck Swiger

On Mar 28, 2007, at 11:53 AM, Don O'Neil wrote:
So it looks like my zone info files are correct... could the ntp  
pool be off

for some reason, or does ntpdate need to be updated?

28 Mar 10:53:51 ntpdate[90706]: ntpdate 4.2.0-a Mon Aug  7 17:44:27  
UTC 2006

(1)


Nope, the NTP protocol uses GMT (or UTC, if you prefer that name)  
exclusively.


However, once you've updated the timezone files, you either need to  
restart all of the processes which have cached the old TZ file info,  
or simply reboot.  You might find running ntpdate -b to reset your  
clock once before starting ntpd will help correctly sync if your  
local clock is one hour off (depends on whether your BIOS is trying  
to keep local time or GMT time)...see man adjkerntz.


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Re: Help with port that uses scons

2007-03-28 Thread youshi10

On Wed, 28 Mar 2007, Alejandro Pulver wrote:


Hello.

I am updating a port that now uses scons to build. It reads the
environment variables correctly, but passes CCFLAGS as a single
argument to the compiler, resulting in an error.

The port (the install part isn't done yet) is available here:

http://people.freebsd.org/~alepulver/boswars.shar

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks and Best Regards,
Ale


If the last line is your problem with SCONS_ARGS, stuff isn't passed in quoted, 
and IIRC CPPFLAGS should be CXXFLAGS for all applications (I could be wrong 
about scons though..).

-Garrett

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Re: Help with port that uses scons

2007-03-28 Thread youshi10

On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Wed, 28 Mar 2007, Alejandro Pulver wrote:


Hello.

I am updating a port that now uses scons to build. It reads the
environment variables correctly, but passes CCFLAGS as a single
argument to the compiler, resulting in an error.

The port (the install part isn't done yet) is available here:

http://people.freebsd.org/~alepulver/boswars.shar

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks and Best Regards,
Ale


If the last line is your problem with SCONS_ARGS, stuff isn't passed in quoted, 
and IIRC CPPFLAGS should be CXXFLAGS for all applications (I could be wrong 
about scons though..).


-Garrett


That's what I get for answering questions on multiple lists on 5 hours sleep. Reduced 
response time .

-Garrett

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Re: the art of pkgdb -F

2007-03-28 Thread RW
On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 00:19:47 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Obviously, as I am not about to batter you
 about the neck and head with the beam projecting
 from my eye (hold still, you've got a . . .),
 I can only suggest a decent cringepray
 manouver (as I execute from time to time),
 and a stout attempt to wean oneself off,
 albeit
 % portupgrade -fr blorf*
 is quite seductive, nearly doubly so when
 blorf* is actually gettext.arg.bah.
 
 ports-mgmt/portmaster disposes with the
 hairy databases and leering dependancies
 at the cost of being slightly less . . . err, come
 to think of it, after a bit of man page perusal
 I cannot think of anything that I use portupgrade
 for that portmaster seems to be missing.  YMMV
 as usual.

The gettext upgrade is actually a good example of what portupgrade
offers. With portupgrade the -rf option is advisable, but not
essential, with portmaster, it's essential that the -r option is used,
If it's not, or the upgrade fails to complete, you can end-up with not
much more than the base-system working.
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Why is 'disklabel'ng a new drive so difficult?

2007-03-28 Thread Marc G. Fournier
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Just bought a new WD SATA drive: WDC WD5000YS-01MPB1 09.02E09

Tried to disklabel it, and it gives me all kinds of warnings when I look at it 
after running the disklabel:


ganymede# bsdlabel -w ad4s1 auto
ganymede# bsdlabel ad4s1c
# /dev/ad4s1c:
8 partitions:
#size   offsetfstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
  a: 976767986   79unused0 0
  c: 976768002   63unused0 0 # raw part, don't 
edit
partition a: partition extends past end of unit
partition c: partition extends past end of unit
bsdlabel: partition c doesn't start at 0!
bsdlabel: An incorrect partition c may cause problems for standard system 
utilities

Even if I try to use /stand/sysinstall to do the fdisk, the end result has 
'issues' ...

So, what is the generally accepted method of label'ng a new drive? :(

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Re: Why is 'disklabel'ng a new drive so difficult?

2007-03-28 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 05:26:49PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
 
 Just bought a new WD SATA drive: WDC WD5000YS-01MPB1 09.02E09
 
 Tried to disklabel it, and it gives me all kinds of warnings when I look at 
 it 
 after running the disklabel:
 
 
 ganymede# bsdlabel -w ad4s1 auto
 ganymede# bsdlabel ad4s1c
 # /dev/ad4s1c:
 8 partitions:
 #size   offsetfstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
   a: 976767986   79unused0 0
   c: 976768002   63unused0 0 # raw part, don't 
 edit
 partition a: partition extends past end of unit
 partition c: partition extends past end of unit
 bsdlabel: partition c doesn't start at 0!
 bsdlabel: An incorrect partition c may cause problems for standard system 
 utilities
 
 Even if I try to use /stand/sysinstall to do the fdisk, the end result has 
 'issues' ...
 
 So, what is the generally accepted method of label'ng a new drive? :(

I learned a useful trick the other day: you can use abbreviations like
1g, also '*' to mean automatically calculate.  See the manpage.

Kris
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Re: Why is 'disklabel'ng a new drive so difficult?

2007-03-28 Thread Marc G. Fournier
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 05:26:49PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote:

 Just bought a new WD SATA drive: WDC WD5000YS-01MPB1 09.02E09

 Tried to disklabel it, and it gives me all kinds of warnings when I look at
 it  after running the disklabel:


 ganymede# bsdlabel -w ad4s1 auto
 ganymede# bsdlabel ad4s1c
 # /dev/ad4s1c:
 8 partitions:
 #size   offsetfstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
   a: 976767986   79unused0 0
   c: 976768002   63unused0 0 # raw part, don't
 edit
 partition a: partition extends past end of unit
 partition c: partition extends past end of unit
 bsdlabel: partition c doesn't start at 0!
 bsdlabel: An incorrect partition c may cause problems for standard system
 utilities

 Even if I try to use /stand/sysinstall to do the fdisk, the end result has
 'issues' ...

 So, what is the generally accepted method of label'ng a new drive? :(

 I learned a useful trick the other day: you can use abbreviations like
 1g, also '*' to mean automatically calculate.  See the manpage.

Neat, that seems to do it ... but, shouldn't that be disklabel's default 
behaviour be for the initial -w operation?

Thanks though, seems to have worked great ...

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Re: Why is 'disklabel'ng a new drive so difficult?

2007-03-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 28/03/07, Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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Just bought a new WD SATA drive: WDC WD5000YS-01MPB1 09.02E09

Tried to disklabel it, and it gives me all kinds of warnings when I look at it
after running the disklabel:


ganymede# bsdlabel -w ad4s1 auto
ganymede# bsdlabel ad4s1c
# /dev/ad4s1c:
8 partitions:
#size   offsetfstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
  a: 976767986   79unused0 0
  c: 976768002   63unused0 0 # raw part, don't
edit
partition a: partition extends past end of unit
partition c: partition extends past end of unit
bsdlabel: partition c doesn't start at 0!
bsdlabel: An incorrect partition c may cause problems for standard system
utilities

Even if I try to use /stand/sysinstall to do the fdisk, the end result has
'issues' ...

So, what is the generally accepted method of label'ng a new drive? :(


I think you have it correct (or right as they say).
When I:
% bsdlabel [da|ad]NsNc
those very error messages are horked up on _some_
drives.
To me
% bsdlabel [da|ad]NsN
has always been the correct method.

The drives which DO return the errors have partitions
newfs-ed with a non-default blocksize (-b 8192).  What
effect (or impact if you learnt English in a Zeppelin
over Italy in 1916) that may have is beyond me.

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Re: Why is 'disklabel'ng a new drive so difficult?

2007-03-28 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 05:26:49PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote:

 
 Just bought a new WD SATA drive: WDC WD5000YS-01MPB1 09.02E09
 
 Tried to disklabel it, and it gives me all kinds of warnings when I look at 
 it 
 after running the disklabel:
 
 ganymede# bsdlabel -w ad4s1 auto
 ganymede# bsdlabel ad4s1c
 # /dev/ad4s1c:
 8 partitions:
 #size   offsetfstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
   a: 976767986   79unused0 0
   c: 976768002   63unused0 0 # raw part, don't 
 edit
 partition a: partition extends past end of unit
 partition c: partition extends past end of unit
 bsdlabel: partition c doesn't start at 0!
 bsdlabel: An incorrect partition c may cause problems for standard system 
 utilities
 
 Even if I try to use /stand/sysinstall to do the fdisk, the end result has 
 'issues' ...
 
 So, what is the generally accepted method of label'ng a new drive? :(

I see you must have run fdisk on it and created a slice.  That's good.

Also, although you keep saying disklabel, I see you are using
the bsdlabel command, so that is good.  

Then, the only thing wrong is that your offsets should start at 0.
They mean within the slice, not raw disk sector 0.

I don't know the actual size of the slice, but if it is 9 7676 8002
then starting at sector 63 and going for that size will make it
go beyond the disk slice.

If you did a 'bsdlabel -e ad4s1'(no 'c' on it)

it should put you in an edit session and plug in the correct 
offset (0 in this case) and size for the slice in the c: line.   

You appear to want to use all the slice for one partition, so just 
dup that c: line and make the copy be a: 
Then change the fstype from 'unused' to '4.2BSD'  
and the [fsize bsize bps/cpg] fields be 2048 16384 28552 or doubled 
or just let it pick those fields.  

You can also put '*' in the offset and size fields for the a: line 
and it will create one partition that takes up the whole slice. 

If you make more than one partition, still make the offset be '*', but
 you can name the sizes in blocks or by size such as 10g, 512m, etc and 
then put '*' in for the size of the last partition and it will make the 
sizes you specify and then make that last partition take all that remains. 

Don't forget to newfs the partition[s].

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Re: Why is 'disklabel'ng a new drive so difficult?

2007-03-28 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 04:04:49PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 28/03/07, Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 Just bought a new WD SATA drive: WDC WD5000YS-01MPB1 09.02E09
 
 Tried to disklabel it, and it gives me all kinds of warnings when I look 
 at it
 after running the disklabel:
 
 
 ganymede# bsdlabel -w ad4s1 auto
 ganymede# bsdlabel ad4s1c
 # /dev/ad4s1c:
 8 partitions:
 #size   offsetfstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
   a: 976767986   79unused0 0
   c: 976768002   63unused0 0 # raw part, 
   don't
 edit
 partition a: partition extends past end of unit
 partition c: partition extends past end of unit
 bsdlabel: partition c doesn't start at 0!
 bsdlabel: An incorrect partition c may cause problems for standard system
 utilities
 
 Even if I try to use /stand/sysinstall to do the fdisk, the end result has
 'issues' ...
 
 So, what is the generally accepted method of label'ng a new drive? :(
 
 I think you have it correct (or right as they say).
 When I:
 % bsdlabel [da|ad]NsNc
 those very error messages are horked up on _some_
 drives.
 To me
 % bsdlabel [da|ad]NsN
 has always been the correct method.
 

Yes, do not use the 'c' on the bsdlabel command.
Just make is da0s1 or ad0s1  (or whichever drive and slice it really is).

If you do a  'baslabel -e [da|ad]NsN' it will give you a nice
edit session with an appropriate value for the 'c:' line and
you can easily go from there.

jerry

 
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Re: Why is 'disklabel'ng a new drive so difficult?

2007-03-28 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 05:23:22PM -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote:

 On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 04:04:49PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On 28/03/07, Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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  Just bought a new WD SATA drive: WDC WD5000YS-01MPB1 09.02E09
  
  Tried to disklabel it, and it gives me all kinds of warnings when I look 
  at it
  after running the disklabel:
  
  
  ganymede# bsdlabel -w ad4s1 auto
  ganymede# bsdlabel ad4s1c
  # /dev/ad4s1c:
  8 partitions:
  #size   offsetfstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
a: 976767986   79unused0 0
c: 976768002   63unused0 0 # raw part, 
don't
  edit
  partition a: partition extends past end of unit
  partition c: partition extends past end of unit
  bsdlabel: partition c doesn't start at 0!
  bsdlabel: An incorrect partition c may cause problems for standard system
  utilities
  
  Even if I try to use /stand/sysinstall to do the fdisk, the end result has
  'issues' ...
  
  So, what is the generally accepted method of label'ng a new drive? :(
  
  I think you have it correct (or right as they say).
  When I:
  % bsdlabel [da|ad]NsNc
  those very error messages are horked up on _some_
  drives.
  To me
  % bsdlabel [da|ad]NsN
  has always been the correct method.
  
 
 Yes, do not use the 'c' on the bsdlabel command.
 Just make is da0s1 or ad0s1  (or whichever drive and slice it really is).
 
 If you do a  'baslabel -e [da|ad]NsN' it will give you a nice

Oops, that should be   'bsdlabel -e [da|ad]NsN'  as I hope is obvious.

 edit session with an appropriate value for the 'c:' line and
 you can easily go from there.
 
 jerry
 
  
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Re: Why is 'disklabel'ng a new drive so difficult?

2007-03-28 Thread RW
On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 17:19:12 -0400
Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Then, the only thing wrong is that your offsets should start at 0.
 They mean within the slice, not raw disk sector 0.

I was just looking at the bsdlable manpage, and it says:

For partition `c', * will be interpreted as an offset of 0.  The first
partition should start at offset 16, because the first 16 sectors are
reserved for metadata.

I normally use sysintall for new slices, but a few days ago I edited an
old slice to turn the old root, swap, /tmp and /var partitions into a
single partition d for a squid cache, and I ended-up with this:

$ bsdlabel /dev/ad0s2
# /dev/ad0s2:
8 partitions:
#size   offsetfstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
  c: 1418539500unused0 0 #  ...
  d:  524288004.2BSD 2048 16384 28552
  f: 16777216  52428804.2BSD0 0 0
  g: 119833854 220200964.2BSD0 0 0



I'm wondering if I should put in an offset of 16 for the d partition
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LD_LIBRARY_PATH

2007-03-28 Thread Charles Farinella

New to FreeBSD.  How can I update my LD_LIBRARY_PATH?

In Linux I modify my /etc/ld.so.conf file and run ldconfig.  Is there an 
equivalent here?  A pointer to docs would be fine.


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Re: Why is 'disklabel'ng a new drive so difficult?

2007-03-28 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 10:49:15PM +0100, RW wrote:

 On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 17:19:12 -0400
 Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Then, the only thing wrong is that your offsets should start at 0.
  They mean within the slice, not raw disk sector 0.
 
 I was just looking at the bsdlable manpage, and it says:
 
 For partition `c', * will be interpreted as an offset of 0.  The first
 partition should start at offset 16, because the first 16 sectors are
 reserved for metadata.
 
 I normally use sysintall for new slices, but a few days ago I edited an
 old slice to turn the old root, swap, /tmp and /var partitions into a
 single partition d for a squid cache, and I ended-up with this:
 
 $ bsdlabel /dev/ad0s2
 # /dev/ad0s2:
 8 partitions:
 #size   offsetfstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
   c: 1418539500unused0 0 #  ...
   d:  524288004.2BSD 2048 16384 28552
   f: 16777216  52428804.2BSD0 0 0
   g: 119833854 220200964.2BSD0 0 0
 
 
 
 I'm wondering if I should put in an offset of 16 for the d partition

I think that is only true for some old stuff in old systems.   I believe
I saw somewhere that it only is meaningful it the -A option is used.
It might also be meaningful for the so-called 'dangerously dedicated'
disk where you don't use a slice, but the raw drive.   But, I 
never start it at an offset of 16 - always 0 if my partition is
within a slice.   

jerry

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Re: LD_LIBRARY_PATH

2007-03-28 Thread Josh Carroll

New to FreeBSD.  How can I update my LD_LIBRARY_PATH?

In Linux I modify my /etc/ld.so.conf file and run ldconfig.  Is there an
equivalent here?  A pointer to docs would be fine.


There are a couple of ways. First, you can look at
/etc/defaults/rc.conf for the default value of ldconfig_paths. On this
6.2-RELEASE system, it's set to:

ldconfig_paths=/usr/lib/compat /usr/X11R6/lib /usr/local/lib
/usr/local/lib/compat/pkg

So you can edit /etc/rc.conf and append to that list. E.g. if you
wanted to add /usr/local/my_libs, you'd put the following in
/etc/rc.conf:

ldconfig_paths=/usr/lib/compat /usr/X11R6/lib /usr/local/lib
/usr/local/lib/compat/pkg /usr/local/my_libs

Another possibility, based on a cursory read of /etc/rc.d/ldconfig,
would be to add the path to /etc/ld-elf.so.conf (which probably
doesn't exist by default).

Either way, once you've added your path, you'd run:

/etc/rc.d/ldconfig start

Which should add the libraries from the added path.

Regards,
Josh
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HP OfficeJet OJ5610

2007-03-28 Thread Gerry Freymann
Hello list members!

The last time I bought a new printer I had to right away as the old one
kicked the bucket and I had work related printed material I just had to
print out, so I picked up a cheap Lexmark from Canadian Tire which was on
sale.

To this day the Lexmark is working great! Except since purchasing it, I
haven't been able to print directly to it from my FreeBSD machine because
it just isn't (or at least wasn't) supported.

Today I see Staples has a HP OfficeJet OJ5610 Colour 4-in-1 printer on at
a reasonable price. It's all I need. Since I am soon due to replace both
of my print cartridges in the Lexmark, I figure I could just as easily
buy the HP printer instead, but I thought I would run this model by the
list members to see if it's compatible with FreeBSD, likely through CUPS?

Anybody know off hand?

Thanks!

-gerry
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Re: iwi-firmware port

2007-03-28 Thread Jonathan Horne
On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 12:12:28 -0400
Timothy Radigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hey all,
 
  
 
 I installed the iwi-firmware and iwi-firmware-kmod ports and I am now
 
 trying to load specific firmware on the iwi adapter but it keeps failing. 
 
 The port installs fine and puts the firmware to /boot/firmware.  The docs
 
 for iwicontrol state to load firmware for a specific function issue a:
 
  
 
 iwicontrol -i iwi0 -d /boot/firmware -m bss
 
  
 
 Every time I issue that command I get an error saying it cannot load
 
 firmware: Invalid argument.
 
  
 
 The system is FreeBSD 6.2 with an Intel PRO Wireless 2200BG adapter.  I
 
 have the most up to date stable source and ports tree.
 
  
 
 I also tried the ipw-firmware port but that did not pick up my adapter
 
 when I loaded the kernel module.
 
  
 
 Any ideas?

here are some examples from my laptop, an IBM T42, with the same wireless 
adapter as yours.

in /etc/rc.conf:

ifconfig_iwi0=DHCP WPA
iwi_enable=YES
iwi_interfaces=iwi0
iwi_mod_iwi0=bss


in /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf:

network={
ssid=network
psk=wpa-passwd
}

and in /boot/loader.conf:

# Wireless Network - Intel BG2200
if_iwi_load=YES
wlan_acl_load=YES
wlan_wep_load=YES
wlan_ccmp_load=YES
wlan_tkip_load=YES
wlan_xauth_load=YES

and finally, the port:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ pkg_info |grep iwi
iwi-firmware-kmod-3.0_2 Intel PRO/Wireless 2200 Firmware Kernel Module

hope this helps,
jonathan
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Re: regular portsdb maintanence

2007-03-28 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 27/03/07 David J Brooks said:

 Have you looked at 'man pkgdb'?

Yes.

I'm looking for how it works, not how to use it.

Mike
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Re: Install with modified kernel?

2007-03-28 Thread jekillen


On Mar 27, 2007, at 8:53 PM, Garrett Cooper wrote:


jekillen wrote:


On Mar 27, 2007, at 4:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Tue, 27 Mar 2007, jekillen wrote:


Hello:
Is it possible to install FreeBSD ( in this case v6.2 GENERIC
RELEASE) with a modified kernel?
I am having some network problems with an installation on ASUS N2M32
WS pro (AMD64) mb.
I want to try installing without fire wire emulation support, which
means I have to modify the
kernel to eliminate it. But if I install and then modify the Kernel,
it will have made its mark.
Please forgive me it this seems like a stupid question. It probably
is but I just want to be
certain.
Thanks in advance.
Jeff K


Jeff,
Of course you can! Please read this chapter in the handbook,  
which

describes the process in great detail:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ 
kernelconfig.html.


As for the network problems, what exactly are you experiencing?
-Garrett



Hehe.. fun... it appears that I probably got myself into a real mess
with the hardware I just purchased (ATI card, Soundblaster X-Fi card,
Asus motherboard full of nForce stuff :(..). Oh well, I've learned my
lesson I suppose *sign*.

You should probably tell what you told me to the questions@ list
though. I'm not the only one in the freebsd community, ya know ;)?
-Garrett


There's more, as a matter of fact, I should write an FYI. It involves  
much

more than just the interface problem.
Here goes:
I made the mistake of thinking I could use a 64 bit PCIx SCSI adapter in
PCIe slots. Now I have one MSI motherboard, AMD64 socket 939 processor
and 1Gb of DDR ram I can't use the SCSI card with. So I found this ASUS  
($309+)
board, It has PCIx slots, two of them. I also had to get another AMD64  
processor

for it with AM2 slot. I also had to get another Gb of DDR2 RAM.
I started assembling the thing and had trouble with the cdrom (ata)  
drive. It turns
out that this board is picky about what ata connector it is plugged  
into. It is not
the one that is usually right next to the power  connector (20 pin). it  
is one further
down the board and faces not up from the board but toward the front of  
the case.
It has 3 black SATA bus connectors and 6 orange SATA connectors. I  
thought
the black connectors where for internal drives, It turns out that they  
are for external
drives and I should have plugged in the SATA drive I am using to boot  
the system
into one of the orange connectors. The SCSI stuff works fine; 15k rpm  
with backplane
adapters from 80 pin to 68 pin, I have been through this obstacle  
coarse before so

I was already prepared.
Ok, Now it was time to discover the networking problem. First was that  
the onboard
lan is not supported directly by FreeBSD. All I got in the way of  
interfaces to configure
by sysinstall was fwe0 (firewire ethernet emulation). I went looking  
for inet cards that
would work in PCIe slots. The motherboard only has on standard PCI slot  
and I have

a video card installed in it.
I find the Intel cards that are made to work in PCIe lane one slots. I  
go to install them
and one of the lane one slots is blocked physically by a copper heat  
sink assembly
on a nearby component. I cannot use that lane one slot. I ended up  
putting the

two Intel cards in the PCIe lane 16 slots.
Now I get the system installed and go to the Apache site and get a  
v1.3.37
tarball and to the php site and get a v5.2.1 tarball, I go get Openssl  
and mod_ssl
and the php gd module and a binary distribution of MySQL (first one  
specifically
for FreeBSD that I had seen). So configure, build and install went fine  
accept for
a few dumb mistakes on my part with Apache, but I got it together. I  
got all the
stuff built and installed to be used with php , mcrypt, gd with  
freetype and all

that. It went well. Then I go to build and install php.
Now the next problem:
Php goes all the way through the configure, make and make install  
without
complaint. It is being built as a DSO for use with Apache, which means  
that
a file called libphp5.so is supposed to be created and placed in  
Apache's

libexec dir. NO FILE BY THAT NAME SHOWED UP ANY WHERE. I tried it
again, same thing, I went and got a tarball I had around of php 5.1.2  
and

tried that, Same thing; no llibphp5.so and am talking
find / -name libphp5.so -print;
nothing.
I have posted these problems. But the first time I mentioned on this  
list

that I had bypassed ports to install from source I was told that if I do
that do not come to this list with problem. I can really understand that
and I have had specific and impatient reason from bypassing ports.
But, common now, why would php configure, make and install without
errors and not produce a critical file for its operation.?  As a matter  
of
fact the last few posts about this (networking) have been ignored,  
Actually

 your response has been the first on this subject (networking problem).
Um... I take that back, I did get 

Re: the art of pkgdb -F

2007-03-28 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 28/03/07 Kevin Kinsey said:

 Here is a time-honored and rather canonical diatribe on The Art of 
 Pkgdb -F (a great thread title, BTW).  Note also that it is nearly
 six years old, and that additional package-management tools have been
 proposed, created, and released to the public, and some may have already
 been EOL'ed and buried, but the rest of them aren't considered standard 
 by any means, and currently the FreeBSD world is in a pseudo-Biblical
 every man did as he saw fit state these days[1].
 
   http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2001/11/29/Big_Scary_Daemons.html

I suppose I'm curious as to how my ports got into this state in the first
place, since I would have expected a package managements system to have
prevented it. 

Now, I've been upgrading ports via

portupgrade -R port

as suggested in the handbook. As -R upgrades only those packages that require
those supplied, and not those that it requires, would that cause it?

I'm wondering how my port dependencies became broken in the first place.

Mike
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Re: using nut-ups with apc UPS on USB

2007-03-28 Thread Derek Ragona
I still have one server running 5.X release.  5.X also should automatically 
generate the devs.  Do you have support for usb in your kernel?  If you do 
have usb compiled in your kernel, check your dmesg that the usb devices are 
properly being identified.


-Derek


At 07:27 PM 3/27/2007, Michael P. Soulier wrote:

On 27/03/07 Derek Ragona said:

 Which FreeBSD version are you running?  In 6.X the devs are created
 automatically on bootup.  In earlier versions you may need to make
 it.  Look at the Makefile in /dev for the correct make option.

I'm running 5-STABLE. I don't see a Makefile in /dev.

Mike


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Re: the art of pkgdb -F

2007-03-28 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 28/03/07 RW said:

 The gettext upgrade is actually a good example of what portupgrade
 offers. With portupgrade the -rf option is advisable, but not
 essential, with portmaster, it's essential that the -r option is used,
 If it's not, or the upgrade fails to complete, you can end-up with not
 much more than the base-system working.

Wow. You would think that such tools would prevent you from getting into that
situation. 

Mike
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Re: the art of pkgdb -F

2007-03-28 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 28/03/07 Gerard Seibert said:

 You can run:
 
   portmanager -u -p -l
 
 That will rebuild all broken and or missing dependencies for all of
 your ports.

How does it know what ports are installed? Originally, I thought that the
pkgdb was that source of information, so if it was gone, how could it be
rebuilt? Obviously there is installed package metadata elsewhere. Just not
sure where.

 If you just want to correct a single port, try this:
 
   portmanager /port/name-of-port -p -l

Thanks.
Mike
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Re: using nut-ups with apc UPS on USB

2007-03-28 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 28/03/07 Derek Ragona said:

 I still have one server running 5.X release.  5.X also should automatically 
 generate the devs.  Do you have support for usb in your kernel?  If you do 
 have usb compiled in your kernel, check your dmesg that the usb devices are 
 properly being identified.

It's there. 

ugen0: APC Back-UPS ES 500 FW:824.B1.D USB FW:B1, rev 1.10/1.06, addr 2

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# usbdevs
addr 1: OHCI root hub, SiS
 addr 2: Back-UPS ES 500 FW:824.B1.D USB FW:B1, APC
addr 1: OHCI root hub, SiS

Hmm, seems that I have it now.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# ls -l /dev/usb*
crw-rw  1 root  operator  240, 255 Mar 24 11:07 /dev/usb
crw-rw  1 root  operator  240,   0 Mar 24 11:07 /dev/usb0
crw-rw  1 root  operator  240,   1 Mar 24 11:07 /dev/usb1

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Re: HP OfficeJet OJ5610

2007-03-28 Thread ajm
On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 07:17:20PM -0400, Gerry Freymann wrote:
 Hello list members!
 
 The last time I bought a new printer I had to right away as the old one
 kicked the bucket and I had work related printed material I just had to
 print out, so I picked up a cheap Lexmark from Canadian Tire which was on
 sale.
 
 To this day the Lexmark is working great! Except since purchasing it, I
 haven't been able to print directly to it from my FreeBSD machine because
 it just isn't (or at least wasn't) supported.
 
 Today I see Staples has a HP OfficeJet OJ5610 Colour 4-in-1 printer on at
 a reasonable price. It's all I need. Since I am soon due to replace both
 of my print cartridges in the Lexmark, I figure I could just as easily
 buy the HP printer instead, but I thought I would run this model by the
 list members to see if it's compatible with FreeBSD, likely through CUPS?
 
 Anybody know off hand?
 
 Thanks!
 
 -gerry

Try this site:

http://openprinting.org/printer_list.cgi

Just type in your printer info. and see how compatible it is.
This is how I make my choice on the HP photosmart 7660

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FreeBSD 6.0 i386
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Re: HP OfficeJet OJ5610

2007-03-28 Thread Gerald Freymann
On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 18:19:47 -0500
ajm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Today I see Staples has a HP OfficeJet OJ5610 Colour 4-in-1 printer on
 at a reasonable price. It's all I need. Since I am soon due to replace
 both of my print cartridges in the Lexmark, I figure I could just as
 easily buy the HP printer instead, but I thought I would run this
 model by the list members to see if it's compatible with FreeBSD,
 likely through CUPS?
 
 Anybody know off hand?
 
 Thanks!
 
 -gerry

Try this site:

http://openprinting.org/printer_list.cgi

Just type in your printer info. and see how compatible it is.
This is how I make my choice on the HP photosmart 7660

 Amazing! Exactly what I was looking for. This printer will work just
fine then, using the HPIJS driver. Awesome! Thanks!

-gerry
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Re: fsck fails on 6T system

2007-03-28 Thread Josh Paetzel
Dan D Niles wrote:
 I am trying to fsck a 6T filesystem on a server that crashed.  I'm
 running FreeBSD 6.2-p3.
 
 # fsck -t ufs -y /dev/da0
 fsck_ufs: cannot alloc 1993797728 bytes for inoinfo
 
 I also tried:
 
 # fsck -t ufs -f -p /dev/da0
 /dev/da0: UNKNOWN FILE TYPE I=11895232
 /dev/da0: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY.
 
 
 I built a custom kernel with MAXDSIZ and DFLDSIZ just under 3G, and got
 the same results.  It was at about 430M in use when it crashed, so the
 total would be 2332 M which is less that the size allowed (reported by
 limits).
 
 I found an old bug report from 2004 that is still open, but nothing has
 been done.   I also found an old article about someone (thinking about)
 rewriting fsck to use disk instead of memory, but no follow-up.
 
 Has anyone found a solution to this?
 
 Any suggestions?
 
 HELP!
 
 Thanks,
 
 Dan

RAM...lots and lots of RAM.  Start with about 8 gigs and give it a 
try.


Thanks,

Josh Paetzel
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Updating php5-interbase

2007-03-28 Thread Roger Merritt
While updating my ports, I've run into a problem. portversion shows 
php5-interbase needs updating, but when I ran 'portupgrade 
php5-interbase' I got the message: '== Please do not build firebird 
as 'root' because this may cause conflicts with SysV semaphores of 
running services' ... 'Stop in 
/usr/ports/databases/firebird2-client'. When I try to build it as 
another user, I'm told I don't have permissions.


I've tried searching Google, including the special BSD search page, 
with no luck. I couldn't find anything in the firebird documentation. 
What should I try next? Actually, I didn't even know I had Firebird 
installed, so I presume it's been pulled in as a dependency for 
another port. I don't object to having it, because it looks like an 
excellent RDBMS, but I'd like to either update it or deinstall it.


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Re: the art of pkgdb -F

2007-03-28 Thread Joel Hatton
Hi,

On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 20:34:00 -0400, Michael P. Soulier wrote:

Now, I've been upgrading ports via

portupgrade -R port

as suggested in the handbook. As -R upgrades only those packages that require
those supplied, and not those that it requires, would that cause it?

Be careful with your syntax: '-R' isn't consistent between pkg_info and
portupgrade:  Running 'pkg_info -R' will downward recurse, or show
dependencies of the port in question, but 'portupgrade -R' will upward
recurse and upgrade every port on which it depends - which often causes a
_lot_ of ports to be rebuilt and is, in fact, the opposite of your
description above. I've been caught by this before...

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skype replacement

2007-03-28 Thread Andriy Babiy
Hi all,

Since skype requires some i386 binary, it doesn't build on amd64.
Could you advise me on what is available as a replacement? What program do 
you use to implement p2p voice connection on amd64 machine?
Thank you in advance.

Andriy
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Re: fsck fails on 6T system

2007-03-28 Thread Dan D Niles
On Wed, 2007-03-28 at 20:21 -0500, Josh Paetzel wrote:
 Dan D Niles wrote:
  I am trying to fsck a 6T filesystem on a server that crashed.  I'm
  running FreeBSD 6.2-p3.
  
  # fsck -t ufs -y /dev/da0
  fsck_ufs: cannot alloc 1993797728 bytes for inoinfo
  
  I also tried:
  
  # fsck -t ufs -f -p /dev/da0
  /dev/da0: UNKNOWN FILE TYPE I=11895232
  /dev/da0: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY.
 
  I built a custom kernel with MAXDSIZ and DFLDSIZ just under 3G, and got
  the same results.  It was at about 430M in use when it crashed, so the
  total would be 2332 M which is less that the size allowed (reported by
  limits).
  
[clip]
 
 RAM...lots and lots of RAM.  Start with about 8 gigs and give it a 
 try.
 

The machine has 3G of RAM.  But as I said, it should only be using 2.3G
when it stops.  It has 3G of space so adding more RAM wouldn't help.  It
does not appear that it will go past 2G even though I increased the
process limits to near 3G.

BTW, if MAXDSIZ plus MAXSSIZ is greater than the size of real memory the
machine won't boot. I tried it.  Also, the max memory FreeBSD can use is
about 3.5G unless you use the experimental PAE kernel.

Any other ideas on how to get fsck to work on a 6T filesystem?

Thanks,

Dan




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Can cvs-sup Safely Upgrade a 5.3 System to 6.2?

2007-03-28 Thread Martin McCormick
The system is on, but not in production so I would like to
upgrade it before we use it.

Many thanks.

Martin McCormick WB5AGZ  Stillwater, OK 
Systems Engineer
OSU Information Technology Department Network Operations Group
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Can cvs-sup Upgrade a 5.3 system to 6.2?

2007-03-28 Thread Martin McCormick
The system is up and running, but presently not in production.
Thank you.

Martin McCormick WB5AGZ  Stillwater, OK 
Systems Engineer
OSU Information Technology Department Network Operations Group
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Re: regular portsdb maintanence

2007-03-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 27/03/07, Michael P. Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello,

I just upgraded portupgrade, and it recommended that I run pkgdb -L to look
for lost dependencies. This raised the question to me of what I should
regularly run in cron jobs to maintain the db.

Is it wise to put say, pkgdb -L into a weekly cron? Anything else?


I am not sure you would want to do that, as
if it were to overlap with a normal portupgrade
the results may be interesting.

The machine's day to day running depends not
at all on the pkgdb.  I would suggest that if you
sense that you need to keep atop these things
you run pkgdb -L about as often as you run
portupgrade -fr something.  If you do not have
to recursively rebuild (say for leaf packages)
pkgdb -L is redundant at best.

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Re: Can cvs-sup Safely Upgrade a 5.3 System to 6.2?

2007-03-28 Thread Peter Ulrich Kruppa



On Wed, 28 Mar 2007, Martin McCormick wrote:


The system is on, but not in production so I would like to
upgrade it before we use it.

Keep strictly to the canonical way to update your system
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html

Else - as far as I remember - you might run into problems with 
some pseudo user account which is needed for 6.x


Good Luck,

Uli.




Many thanks.

Martin McCormick WB5AGZ  Stillwater, OK
Systems Engineer
OSU Information Technology Department Network Operations Group
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Re: the art of pkgdb -F

2007-03-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 28/03/07, Joel Hatton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,

On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 20:34:00 -0400, Michael P. Soulier wrote:

Now, I've been upgrading ports via

portupgrade -R port

as suggested in the handbook. As -R upgrades only those packages that require
those supplied, and not those that it requires, would that cause it?

Be careful with your syntax: '-R' isn't consistent between pkg_info and
portupgrade:  Running 'pkg_info -R' will downward recurse, or show
dependencies of the port in question, but 'portupgrade -R' will upward
recurse and upgrade every port on which it depends - which often causes a
_lot_ of ports to be rebuilt and is, in fact, the opposite of your
description above. I've been caught by this before...


In fact, as frequently the build looks for
a binary, and portupgrade checks
/var/db/pkg there can be some quite
exciting results from a portupgrade -R
if you have alternate dependancies.

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Can't work out which disk we are booting from

2007-03-28 Thread Toupar

Hi,
When i install freebsd ,a problem occurred:

Can't work out which disk we are booting from.
Guessed BIOS device 0x not found by probes defaulting to disk0:

What should i do?
Thanks.
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Re: the art of pkgdb -F

2007-03-28 Thread Kevin Kinsey

Michael P. Soulier wrote:

On 28/03/07 Kevin Kinsey said:

Here is a time-honored and rather canonical diatribe on The Art of 
Pkgdb -F (a great thread title, BTW).  Note also that it is nearly

six years old, and that additional package-management tools have been
proposed, created, and released to the public, and some may have already
been EOL'ed and buried, but the rest of them aren't considered standard 
by any means, and currently the FreeBSD world is in a pseudo-Biblical

every man did as he saw fit state these days[1].

  http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2001/11/29/Big_Scary_Daemons.html


I suppose I'm curious as to how my ports got into this state in the first
place, since I would have expected a package managements system to have
prevented it. 


Good point, perhaps --- if I understand the problem (and there is no
guarantee that I do), it would seem, upon a first, furtive, tentative
and cursory examination that the fact you might need to run pkgdb -F
violates the POLA.  Maybe you should qualify and say I would have 
expected a *perfect* package management system to


However, ports get moved, dropped, re-named, re-categorized and so on
(somewhat) frequently --- perhaps no *one* port, but taken as a whole
(what, +15K ports now?) the tree is rather a moving target.  In the
case of a moved or deleted port, I see no particular way that you
would miss out on at least a missing origin warning from the pkgtools
after obtaining an updated tree.

Otherwise, I suppose that, canonically, if one does the right thing
every time, you might come close.  But I bet I'm not the only one who,
once upon a time, happened to try portupgrade -arR or equivalent
after forgetting to read UPDATING and ended up with more to do than I
originally thought.

And, of course, this is the point where the various disciples/proponents
(and possibly even the maintainers/authors) of the increasing variety of
package management tools come forth to sing the praises of their 
favorite software.


So far we've heard from portupgrade, portmanager, and portmaster.
Any portscout, managepkg, or porteasy advocates wanna speak up?
[What did I miss, and, no, sorry, I didn't read every pkg-descr]

As I mentioned earlier, it's no secret that:

1.  The Ports Collection is large, dynamic, and somewhat complex.
2.  Different tools exist for ports management (in fact, there are now
so many that a new ports category was recently created to store all of them).
3.  One set of tools existed for a long time before the others pretty much
by itself, and became the accepted (or at least the documented) way to 
upgrade 3rd-party software.  It wasn't perfect, but it continues to be

improved, as do the newer management programs.
4.  The future of package management remains to be seen, but the various
and occasional pitfalls of the system have given rise to varied paths 
to package nirvana (I, for one, haven't yet decided which to take).
This is actually a Good Thing for BSD,  insofar as it continues to 
exemplify another UNIX principle, tools, not policy.


I might expect, given this philosophy, that development on several
programs for the management of installed 3rd-party software will
continue, and that, unless one shows itself to be very superior to
the others, a variety of programs will continue in general use, much
to the chagrin of the FDP people, who will have to decide if the
current approach should be changed, and, if so, how.  Doesn't sound
like as much fun as, say, beachcombing on Fiji or strolling through
downtown {$nice_city} in spring, though.

Full circle, Kinda back to every man for himself ---

Kevin Kinsey
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Re: Can cvs-sup Safely Upgrade a 5.3 System to 6.2?

2007-03-28 Thread Eric

Martin McCormick wrote:

The system is on, but not in production so I would like to
upgrade it before we use it.

Many thanks.

Martin McCormick WB5AGZ  Stillwater, OK 
Systems Engineer

OSU Information Technology Department Network Operations Group
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it should work, but you may want to take it to the latest 5.x branch and 
then to 6.2


If you need a nice walkthrough, i have one on my site at 
http://mikestammer.com under the FreeBSD section


Eric
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Re: Re: Install with modified kernel?

2007-03-28 Thread jekillen

Hello again:
It is only fair to post this addenda to the message thread with
this subject:
From various suggestions from list responses, UUASC and I
seem to remember one from this list also, that the problem
could be consecutive addresses on the same subnet is
what is causing the problem.
I was asked by message from UUASC (Unix Users Association Of Southern 
California)
to try changing the address. So I change it to (just for the sake of 
difference)
172.1.1.1 with netmask of 225.225.225.0 and I WAS able to ping the 
inter face

successfully.
was
nfe0 192.168.1.16 (could ping)
nfe1 192.168.1.17 (could not ping)
nfe1 changed to 172.1.1.1 (now returns ping request)
so that does seem to make a difference. I do not know
why. But it looks like I will be able to go ahead and assign
it the public ip address and it should work.
Thanks
Jeff K

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Re: fsck fails on 6T system

2007-03-28 Thread Pieter de Goeje
On woensdag 28 maart 2007, Dan D Niles wrote:
 I am trying to fsck a 6T filesystem on a server that crashed.  I'm
 running FreeBSD 6.2-p3.

 # fsck -t ufs -y /dev/da0
 fsck_ufs: cannot alloc 1993797728 bytes for inoinfo
Could you run 'limits' here? I suspect 'datasize' is too low.

Regards,
Pieter de Goeje
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Re: the art of pkgdb -F

2007-03-28 Thread Robert Huff

Kevin Kinsey writes:

  But I bet I'm not the only one who, once upon a time, happened to
  try portupgrade -arR or equivalent after forgetting to read
  UPDATING and ended up with more to do than I originally thought.

Might as well paint PLEASE KICK ME! and an arrow pointing
down on your back 


Robert Huff

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Re: skype replacement

2007-03-28 Thread James

On 3/28/07, Andriy Babiy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Since skype requires some i386 binary, it doesn't build on amd64.
Could you advise me on what is available as a replacement? What
program do you use to implement p2p voice connection on amd64
machine?  Thank you in advance.


   hihi.  You may want to have a look at [1][2]Ekiga.  It's a really
   nice SIP and H.323 soft phone for GNOME.

   HTH!

 1. http://www.freshports.org/net/ekiga/
 2. http://www.gnomemeeting.org/
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Sierra Wireless AirCard 555 drivers (?), and NDIS...

2007-03-28 Thread Amarendra Godbole

Hi,

This might be a slightly offtopic question - I have a bunch of Sierra
Wireless AirCard 555 driver/firmware files, and I am unable to figure
out which is the correct .inf file, or which are the remaining
firmware files. I could only recognize the driver, which had a .sys
extension. These files are: Air555.sys, mdmac555.cat, mfac555.cat,
netac555.inf, MFAC555.INF, mdmac555.inf, netac555.cat. None of the
.inf files give a clue as to which one really belongs to the .sys
file.

Hence, I tried building the ko, using ndisgen utility, by specifying
.sys as the driver, and netac555.inf as the corresponding .inf files.
Then I specified all the remaining files  as additional firmware
files. ndisgen happily built the kernel object, and I was able to
insert it too...

...butno device appeared, no nothing in the syslog too! This
leaves me wondering if I specified the incorrect files...

Does anyone have an idea as to which will be the correct .inf file,
and which are the firmware files? I'd appreciate help here, I can also
send these file offlist for inspection. Thanks in advance!

Best,
Amarendra
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Re: Can cvs-sup Upgrade a 5.3 system to 6.2?

2007-03-28 Thread Andrew Pantyukhin

On 3/28/07, Martin McCormick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

The system is up and running, but presently not in production.


cvsup (or csup, available from ports) can update /usr/src
from any version to any version. If you try to update it
to 6.2 on a 5.3 system - then, yes, you'll succeed in
rebuilding world and kernel, and installing them.

Please refer to the last parts of /usr/src/UPDATING and/or
Handbook for further info.
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