Re: [OT] simpliest way to process this data file

2007-04-25 Thread Zhang Weiwu
An example that is probably not simple enough:

awk 'BEGIN { FS="\n"; RS="\n\n";} { print ""; print $NF; for (i=1; i I know this is OT but we got so many sysops here and this might be
> something very easy for them to drop me a quick answer?
> 
> I have a data file formatted like this each block of data consist of
> several lines; blocks are separated by empty lines like this
> 
> This is a 
> block 
> of data
> with lines
> 
> and another block
> of
> data
> 
> The task is to move the last line of each block to the first line of the
> block. So the processed data look like this:
> 
> with lines
> This is a
> block
> of data
> 
> data
> and other block
> of
> 
> I have tried a lot reading info pages of sed still cannot figure out an
> easy solution (tried to play with "N" command a lot of times). I know
> how to do it in awk but I am pretty interested to learn a second
> language and I really think sed or other tools should be able to handle
> this:)
> 
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Re: best programming language for console/sql application?

2007-04-25 Thread Zhang Weiwu
On Wed, 2007-04-25 at 21:03 -0700, L Goodwin wrote:
> Zhang (or Weiwu?),

Weiwu:)

>  I'm surprised there are no good open source bug tracking solutions
> out there already.

There are a lot! There are no known console-based bug tracker 
(there are also a lot of console-based bug reporter)

> Sorry, I'm not familiar with ncurse, so can't comment on it. The
> system I developed ten years ago was centered on Informix RDBMS, which
> included tools for creating character-based forms ("Perform"), reports
> ("ACE report writer"), and of course queries and stored procs. The
> shell scripts were used in conjunction with the RDBMS for tasks such
> as running reports and emailing the results to various individuals and
> mail groups, and extracting bug regression tests into executable
> scripts. Overhead was very low -- that's one great advantage of
> character-based applications (the Windows lovers complained bitterly
> about it, but we proved it was far more efficient and effective than
> the junk they were building).
> 
> Good luck finding or building a system that meets your needs. I simply
> don't have time for non-essential activities, as I'm a one-person
> operation.

Thanks for the info.

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Re: Single Instance Service

2007-04-25 Thread Olivier Nicole
> Sure it is.  You will need to write a small shell script to scan
> your disk volume and calculate the checksum of each file.  When
> ever it finds a duplicated checksum, then it copies the file into
> the central store and replaces the on-disk copies with symbolic
> links.  That's fairly trivial to write.

Beside, what should be the behaviour when one wishes to modify his own
copy of a document? How does Single Instance acts in that case?

If you establish a link, there is only one version of the file, once
and forever (unless you go and unlink it manually), so when one
modifies the file, modification applies for everyone.

Olivier
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Re: first of misc questions....

2007-04-25 Thread Matthew Seaman
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Irsla wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On 4/25/07, Matthew Seaman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>find . -type f \( -mtime 6 -o -mtime 29 \) -print0 | xargs -0 vi
>>
> 
> what about the -exec option of find ? I always wonder why people don't
> use it.
> 
> find . -type f \( -mtime 6 -o -mtime 29 \) -exec vi {} \;
> 

The critical difference is that 'find | xargs foo' runs foo once[*],
to process all the files in one go. 'find -exec foo {}' runs foo one
time for  each matched file.  In this case, it's probably not a big
deal, but  when you need to process hundreds of files 'find | xargs
foo' is much more efficient.

Cheers,

Matthew

[*] Actually, it runs foo repeatedly with as many filenames on the
foo command line as it can each time.  That's generally several
hundred files at a go.

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Re: How do I forward old root emails from the root mailbox to my address?

2007-04-25 Thread Olivier Nicole
> but is there a simple way for me to send all these old mails in
> root's mailbox to my email address without logging in through
> pop3/imap?

A combination of cat /var/mail/root | formail -s and something.

cat /var/mail/root | formail -s will read /var/mail/root, separate
each message and pipe it to the command that follow the -s. The
command could be a sendmail [EMAIL PROTECTED] or something, you may have to
investigate.

cat /var/mail/root | formail -s /usr/sbin/sendmail [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: Single Instance Service

2007-04-25 Thread Matthew Seaman
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GARRISON, TRAVIS J. wrote:
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-freebsd-

>> I am looking for software that will run on FreeBSD that is similar to
>> Microsoft Single Instance Service.
>>
>> The Single Instance Storage Filter is a file system filter that
> manages
>> the duplicate copies of files on hard-disk volumes. This filter copies
> one
>> instance of the duplicate file into a central folder, and the
> duplicates
>> are replaced with a link to the central copy to improve disk usage.

> 
> [GARRISON, TRAVIS J.] 
> 
> Is this something that is not possible under FreeBSD?

Sure it is.  You will need to write a small shell script to scan
your disk volume and calculate the checksum of each file.  When
ever it finds a duplicated checksum, then it copies the file into
the central store and replaces the on-disk copies with symbolic
links.  That's fairly trivial to write.

However, I have to wonder if this is at all worthwhile.  Quite apart
from arguments along the lines of 'disk is cheap' and that the
effort required to do this is out of all proportion to the amount of
such duplicated files on the vast majority of systems, you're also
putting all your eggs in one basket.  All it takes is one idiot and
you'll be recovering the one copy of your valuable document from
backup.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: How do I forward old root emails from the root mailbox to my address?

2007-04-25 Thread Peter Ankerstål

Andreas Widerøe Andersen wrote:

Hi,
On one of my FreeBSD servers all system emails to root is stored in the 
root

mailbox under /var/mail/root. I have updated my alias file so new mail is
forwarded to one of my email adresses, but is there a simple way for me to
send all these old mails in root's mailbox to my email address without
logging in through pop3/imap?

A command line trick would be perfect.

I think you could just use the .forward file.
read about it in forward(5)
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Re: DHCP/NIC IP address contention issues

2007-04-25 Thread L Goodwin
I'll double-check the things you listed. If you can tell me what additional 
info I need to supply and where to get it, I'll be happy to oblige. Thanks...

Beech Rintoul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wednesday 25 April 2007, L Goodwin 
said:
> Will someone please lead me in the right direction towards
> resolving the following network issue?
>
> I just added a FreeBSD server to a LAN that consists of a router
> and 2 pc's, one of which is running Windows XP Pro and the other
> Windows Vista. The lan is connected to the Internet via a cable
> modem that goes through the router. The router is set up to be the
> DHCP server. Now it is being assigned a non-unique IP address.
>
>  Before adding the FreeBSD box to the mix, everybody was getting
> along fine (unique IP addresses were dynamically assigned to the
> pc's).
>
> I connected the FreeBSD box to the router, selected "Configure
> additional network interfaces" from the sysinstall menu, selected
> "fxp0 Intel EtherExpress Pro/100B PCI Fast Ethernet card" from the
> top of the list and clicked "OK" to prompts to try to configure
> IPv6 and DCHP. When done, the Network Configuration dialog
> contained the following values (which I did not alter):
>
> Host: dhcppc0
> Domain: (the cable provider's domain name)
> IPv4 Gateway: 192.168.1.1
> Name server: (IP address of ISP's name server)
> Configuration for Interface fxp0:
> IPv4 Address: 192.168.1.33
> Netmask: 255.255.255.0
> Extra options: (blank)
>
> Note that the Host field does not match the hostname of the FreeBSD
> box, which is named "SERVER" (real creative, huh?). I guess I
> should have changed the Host field to "SERVER", eh?
>
> Then I got the following console messages on the FreeBSD server:
>
> 1) "Apr 25 13:33:19 SERVER kernel: arp 00:40:f4:47:fb:8e is using
> my IP address xxx.xxx.x.xx!" 2) "dhcppc0# Apr 25 14:07:05 dhcpp0
> kernel: arp: 00:40:f4:47:fb:8e is using my IP address
> xxx.xxx.x.xx!"
>
> I ran "ipconfig /all" on both Windows boxes and found that the
> FreeBSD box is assigned the same IP address as the Windows XP box
> (which had that IP address FIRST). Why is the FreeBSD box being
> assigned a non-unique IP address?

1. Check that your router's dhcp server is set up properly.

2. Check that the windows box is not set up with a static ip. The box 
could be hard coded to an ip address and your dhcp server thinks the 
lease is free.

Other than that you need to supply more info.

Beech

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Re: Single Instance Service

2007-04-25 Thread Jeff Mohler

Serving home directories, you end up with tons.

One marketting dude creates a 10Mb PPT slide, sends it to 10 people that
forward it to 2 more each...

Next thing you know you have dozens of copies of thousands of the same
documents sitting in deep storage home directories, taking up space.

In backups, SIS is the killer feature, in spinning storage..its worth 200%
the cost of the storage you save.

Most of us..would never need it..but for those that do..do.

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GARRISON, TRAVIS J. wrote:
> I am looking for software that will run on FreeBSD that is similar to
Microsoft Single Instance Service.
>
> The Single Instance Storage Filter is a file system filter that manages
the duplicate copies of files on hard-disk volumes. This filter copies one
instance of the duplicate file into a central folder, and the duplicates are
replaced with a link to the central copy to improve disk usage.
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I cant really see why you would need something like this i FreeBSD. Why
would
you have shitloads of duplicates?
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Re: DHCP/NIC IP address contention issues

2007-04-25 Thread L Goodwin
I'm pretty sure the XP box is configured correctly for DHCP (no static IP), but 
will check it again. 

By "check the lease information in the DSL modem", do you mean to see if the CM 
IP Address "Expires" date is earlier than current date? I unplugged both the 
modem and the router today before connecting the new FreeBSD box, so I assume 
that they are both "current".

I'll investigate/try all of the things you listed and see if anything turns up. 
I'll also check to see if /etc/rc.conf contains the following entry: 

ifconfig_fxp0="DHCP"
Is there any way that the NIC on FreeBSD box could get configured multiple 
times (e.g., multiple entries in config files), and if so, could this cause 
this?

If the FreeBSD system were configured as a DHCP server (in addition to the 
router, which definitely is), what would you expect to happen? It shouldn't be, 
but what if it were?

Thank you!

Daniel Marsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

On 4/26/07, L Goodwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Will someone please lead me in 
the right direction towards resolving the following network issue?


1) "Apr 25 13:33:19 SERVER kernel: arp 00:40:f4:47:fb:8e is using my IP address 
xxx.xxx.x.xx!" 
2) "dhcppc0# Apr 25 14:07:05 dhcpp0 kernel: arp: 00:40:f4:47:fb:8e is using my 
IP address xxx.xxx.x.xx!"

I ran "ipconfig /all" on both Windows boxes and found that the FreeBSD box is 
assigned the same IP address as the Windows XP box (which had that IP address 
FIRST). Why is the FreeBSD box being assigned a non-unique IP address? 


Have you checked the network properties (tcp-ip settings) for the XP machine to 
make sure it's being assigned a dynamic IP address?
Have you tried running ipconfig /renew on the XP machine? 
Have you checked the lease information in the DSL modem?

A DHCP server will not hand out the same IP address twice.
The only time I've seen something like this happen is when the DHCP lease times 
out for an IP and windows doesn't renew the lease on the IP, the IP is put into 
the free-ip's pool and handed out when the DHCP feels up to it... 
So if the XP machine is setup for DHCP, it got the IP via dhcp, it probably 
didn't renew the lease on the IP.
 

   
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Re: Single Instance Service

2007-04-25 Thread Peter Ankerstål

GARRISON, TRAVIS J. wrote:

I am looking for software that will run on FreeBSD that is similar to Microsoft 
Single Instance Service.

The Single Instance Storage Filter is a file system filter that manages the 
duplicate copies of files on hard-disk volumes. This filter copies one instance 
of the duplicate file into a central folder, and the duplicates are replaced 
with a link to the central copy to improve disk usage.
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I cant really see why you would need something like this i FreeBSD. Why would 
you have shitloads of duplicates?

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Intel motherboard S5000PAL

2007-04-25 Thread Olivier Nicole
Hi,

Sorry for bothering, but I coul not find the answer elsewhere.

Is Intel motherboard S5000PAL supported by FreeBSD 5.5, 6.2?

Best regards,

Olivier
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Re: DHCP/NIC IP address contention issues

2007-04-25 Thread Beech Rintoul
On Wednesday 25 April 2007, L Goodwin said:
> Will someone please lead me in the right direction towards
> resolving the following network issue?
>
> I just added a FreeBSD server to a LAN that consists of a router
> and 2 pc's, one of which is running Windows XP Pro and the other
> Windows Vista. The lan is connected to the Internet via a cable
> modem that goes through the router. The router is set up to be the
> DHCP server. Now it is being assigned a non-unique IP address.
>
>  Before adding the FreeBSD box to the mix, everybody was getting
> along fine (unique IP addresses were dynamically assigned to the
> pc's).
>
> I connected the FreeBSD box to the router, selected "Configure
> additional network interfaces" from the sysinstall menu, selected
> "fxp0 Intel EtherExpress Pro/100B PCI Fast Ethernet card" from the
> top of the list and clicked "OK" to prompts to try to configure
> IPv6 and DCHP. When done, the Network Configuration dialog
> contained the following values (which I did not alter):
>
> Host: dhcppc0
> Domain: (the cable provider's domain name)
> IPv4 Gateway: 192.168.1.1
> Name server: (IP address of ISP's name server)
> Configuration for Interface fxp0:
> IPv4 Address: 192.168.1.33
> Netmask: 255.255.255.0
> Extra options: (blank)
>
> Note that the Host field does not match the hostname of the FreeBSD
> box, which is named "SERVER" (real creative, huh?). I guess I
> should have changed the Host field to "SERVER", eh?
>
> Then I got the following console messages on the FreeBSD server:
>
> 1) "Apr 25 13:33:19 SERVER kernel: arp 00:40:f4:47:fb:8e is using
> my IP address xxx.xxx.x.xx!" 2) "dhcppc0# Apr 25 14:07:05 dhcpp0
> kernel: arp: 00:40:f4:47:fb:8e is using my IP address
> xxx.xxx.x.xx!"
>
> I ran "ipconfig /all" on both Windows boxes and found that the
> FreeBSD box is assigned the same IP address as the Windows XP box
> (which had that IP address FIRST). Why is the FreeBSD box being
> assigned a non-unique IP address?

1. Check that your router's dhcp server is set up properly.

2. Check that the windows box is not set up with a static ip. The box 
could be hard coded to an ip address and your dhcp server thinks the 
lease is free.

Other than that you need to supply more info.

Beech

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Re: DHCP/NIC IP address contention issues

2007-04-25 Thread Daniel Marsh

On 4/26/07, L Goodwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Will someone please lead me in the right direction towards resolving the
following network issue?


1) "Apr 25 13:33:19 SERVER kernel: arp 00:40:f4:47:fb:8e is using my IP
address xxx.xxx.x.xx!"
2) "dhcppc0# Apr 25 14:07:05 dhcpp0 kernel: arp: 00:40:f4:47:fb:8e is
using my IP address xxx.xxx.x.xx!"

I ran "ipconfig /all" on both Windows boxes and found that the FreeBSD box
is assigned the same IP address as the Windows XP box (which had that IP
address FIRST). Why is the FreeBSD box being assigned a non-unique IP
address?



Have you checked the network properties (tcp-ip settings) for the XP machine
to make sure it's being assigned a dynamic IP address?
Have you tried running ipconfig /renew on the XP machine?
Have you checked the lease information in the DSL modem?

A DHCP server will not hand out the same IP address twice.
The only time I've seen something like this happen is when the DHCP lease
times out for an IP and windows doesn't renew the lease on the IP, the IP is
put into the free-ip's pool and handed out when the DHCP feels up to it...
So if the XP machine is setup for DHCP, it got the IP via dhcp, it probably
didn't renew the lease on the IP.
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DHCP/NIC IP address contention issues

2007-04-25 Thread L Goodwin
Will someone please lead me in the right direction towards resolving the 
following network issue?

I just added a FreeBSD server to a LAN that consists of a router and 2 pc's, 
one of which is running Windows XP Pro and the other Windows Vista. The lan is 
connected to the Internet via a cable modem that goes through the router.
The router is set up to be the DHCP server. Now it is being assigned a 
non-unique IP address.

 Before adding the FreeBSD box to the mix, everybody was getting along fine 
(unique IP addresses were dynamically assigned to the pc's).

I connected the FreeBSD box to the router, selected "Configure additional 
network interfaces" from the sysinstall menu, selected "fxp0 Intel EtherExpress 
Pro/100B PCI Fast Ethernet card" from the top of the list and clicked "OK" to 
prompts to try to configure IPv6 and DCHP. When done, the Network Configuration 
dialog contained the following values (which I did not alter):

Host: dhcppc0
Domain: (the cable provider's domain name)
IPv4 Gateway: 192.168.1.1
Name server: (IP address of ISP's name server)
Configuration for Interface fxp0:
IPv4 Address: 192.168.1.33
Netmask: 255.255.255.0
Extra options: (blank)

Note that the Host field does not match the hostname of the FreeBSD box, which 
is named "SERVER" (real creative, huh?). I guess I should have changed the Host 
field to "SERVER", eh?

Then I got the following console messages on the FreeBSD server:

1) "Apr 25 13:33:19 SERVER kernel: arp 00:40:f4:47:fb:8e is using my IP address 
xxx.xxx.x.xx!"
2) "dhcppc0# Apr 25 14:07:05 dhcpp0 kernel: arp: 00:40:f4:47:fb:8e is using my 
IP address xxx.xxx.x.xx!"

I ran "ipconfig /all" on both Windows boxes and found that the FreeBSD box is 
assigned the same IP address as the Windows XP box (which had that IP address 
FIRST). Why is the FreeBSD box being assigned a non-unique IP address?

Thanks!

   
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Re: Tagging email subject line with something like [fbsd-questions]

2007-04-25 Thread Erik Osterholm
On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 03:47:49PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 10:38:52PM +0100, N.J. Mann wrote:
> >#
> > Right.  In an earlier message you mentioned mutt and procmail, so
> > here
> > is a procmail/mutt solution.  First off write a procmail recipe
> > that
> > matches the mail list(s) you wish to "flag".  In the action line
> > of said
> > recipe use formail to add the header X-Status.  Configure mutt to
> > "high
> > light" message which contain the X-Status header.
>#
> That's an excellent idea.  Thank you.

You don't need to add the header.  You can "highlight" using ~C, which
checks the To: or Cc: for a string.  I have tested a rule in my
.muttrc which does this:

color index red black '(~C freebsd-question)'


It seems to correctly color messages to the freebsd-questions list.

In theory, you should be able to use other mutt patterns as per
http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/manual-4.html#ss4.2

This could allow you to search for the List-ID header and
color/highlight based upon that.

Erik

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RE: Greylisting -- Was: Anti Spam

2007-04-25 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Christopher
> Hilton
> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 3:25 PM
> To: Grant Peel
> Cc: Eric Crist; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Greylisting -- Was: Anti Spam
>
>
> Just my $0.02. Have you considered adding greylisting. I find the
> combination of greylisting and Spamassassin with the SA's bayes filter
> completely handles my spam problem. On my primary MX I use spamd on
> OpenBSD and on my secondary MX I use spamd on FreeBSD. As a very
> informal method of measurement my Inbox.spam folder, held an average of
> 400 messages per day in October before I started using spamd. It
> currently averages about 80 messages per day.
>
> If you don't know about greylisting it works as follows. A greylister
> monitors port 25 for inbound mail connections. When a server connects to
> this port to exchange mail the greylister predetermines the response
> based on whether or not this server has exchanged mail in the recent
> past. If it has it's allowed to exchange mail again and the server's
> timestamp is updated. If the server has not exchanged mail in the recent
> past the greylister responds: "45x - I'm too busy to talk to you right
> now. Please try to deliver this mail later". It then puts the server and
> information about the mail being delivered onto a list. If the same
> server tries the same message later it passes and the greylister
> promotes the server onto it's list of okay mail servers (mail servers
> that it has exchanged mail with in the recent past).
>
> Greylisting works because many, and I'd like to say most, spam programs
> never retry message delivery.

Actually, no.  Greylisting works because it delays the spam injector
long enough that the injector will get blacklisted by the time that the
greylist opens the door for the mail to come in.  Greylisting alone
by itself is getting less and less effective every day.  Spammers are now
starting to setup spam injectors to retry.  If you think about it, it is
very easy to program.  Simply create a list of victims, iterate through
the list once, deleting all the victims that accept, then wait several
hours and iterate through the list again.  It didn't take a rocket scientist
to figure that one out.

Since SA has a lot of the major blacklist servers as score-feeders, the
spam that gets past the greylist just gets tagged by SA.

> The best thing about greylisting is that
> combines well with filters like SA by reducing the amount of mail that
> they have to see. In my case something like 80% of the mail that
> Spamassassin used to process just never gets past the greylister today.
>
> The downsides to greylisting is that it delays the first message from a
> legitimate mailserver. In the most common case the incurred delay will
> be between 30 minutes and an hour. This assumes that then sending mail
> server retries queued mails every half hour or so. In an extreme case
> the delay may be longer. If the mail sender has a cluster for delivering
> outbound mails and that cluster features shared message storage and
> several processing units to handle the smtp transfer then the greylister
> will trap that message until the same server attempts redelivery. This
> is a problem with mail coming from very large internet companies like
> Google or AOL or very distributed corporations like General Electric,
> Unilever or United Technologies.
>

That is why the greylist milter (that you use for sendmail) has an exception
list.  There are not many large senders that do this and it is easy enough
to figure out who they are.

> Since you are in an ISP environment greylisting may not be something
> that you can do. I was extremely surprised when a client told me that
> the 1 hr delay in receiving mail from new and infrequent mail servers
> was too much to pay to stop the spam coming into his mailbox.

That should not be a problem.  The current greylist milter port allows
you to define clients email addresses like this as an exception that won't
get the benefits of the greylist, while allowing everyone else on the server
to
continue to enjoy it.

> I don't
> claim to know the political layer as much as I do the technical one.
>

There are legitimate technical reasons that someone may want their mail
to not be greylisted.  For example, my cell phone's e-mail address is
in our monitoring scripts to page me in the event of a server failure.
I would be pretty pissed off if Sprint suddenly started greylisting.  It
isn't just dumb-ass users making stupid political decisions to reject
it, although in your case it probably was.

Ted

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Re: best programming language for console/sql application?

2007-04-25 Thread L Goodwin
Zhang (or Weiwu?), I'm surprised there are no good open source bug tracking 
solutions out there already.

Sorry, I'm not familiar with ncurse, so can't comment on it. The system I 
developed ten years ago was centered on Informix RDBMS, which included tools 
for creating character-based forms ("Perform"), reports ("ACE report writer"), 
and of course queries and stored procs. The shell scripts were used in 
conjunction with the RDBMS for tasks such as running reports and emailing the 
results to various individuals and mail groups, and extracting bug regression 
tests into executable scripts. Overhead was very low -- that's one great 
advantage of character-based applications (the Windows lovers complained 
bitterly about it, but we proved it was far more efficient and effective than 
the junk they were building).

Good luck finding or building a system that meets your needs. I simply don't 
have time for non-essential activities, as I'm a one-person operation.

Zhang Weiwu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If this is a product you developed long 
time ago, and especially if it's
no longer used or the old company quit this business, it's probably
possible to ask them if they can opensource the old product, and someone
may come up and make it better?

P.S. I was thinking of an ncurse-style interface, so can shell script do
this? I thought shell tools like dialog wasn't powerful enough to
support an user interface required by a bug tracker.


On Mon, 2007-04-23 at 18:07 -0700, L Goodwin wrote:
> I co-developed a UNIX-based multi-product bug tracking system using an
> RDBMS (Informix, ISQL, Perform and ACE), bourne shell scripts, cron,
> and UNIX Mail.  This solution also worked on PC clients (we used
> Reflection-X, but I'd recommend XWin32). Our design was selected over
> a PC-only solution that another faction was pushing (we had more UNIX
> clients than PC's at that time).
> 
> It had some pretty sophisticated features for the time (some carried
> over from a previous version), including: 
> 
> Automated email notifications and summaries designed to support our
> software development methodology. 
> 
> Retrieve and display SCCS deltas to display code changed for a bug
> fix.
> 
> Ability to store bug regression tests (manual and automated) in
> several different languages, and automatically generate automated
> regression tests based on several different criteria, including
> Product, Platform, Version Range, and Programming Language. This one
> was my baby (brag).
> 
> I've also rewritten HPUX makefiles in bsh to permit execution on
> multiple UNIX platforms (HPUX make has some unique features not found
> in make on other UNIX platforms).
> 
> Based on the above experience, I'd recommend shell scripts, though
> this will likely generate some opposition. In any case, if your system
> only needs to run on one platform, I'd use built-in tools.
> 
> Since then, I've played around with using perl for CGI scripting
> (hated it), then PHP, which I love for this purpose.
> 
> Zhang Weiwu  wrote:
> Dear list
> 
> This is OT. I am a 4 year php developer and is very familiar
> with 
> javascript and awk (familiar = knows and used all functions
> and features 
> of the language itself) and I am a 5 year FreeBSD user. Being
> frustrated 
> for the lack of a good console-based issue tracking tool (like
> mantis or 
> bugzilla), I think I should start to write my own. I'll either
> start 
> from scratch or (better) write a frontend for mantis which I
> used for years.
> 
> 1. If someone has already started, I should try join him/her
> rather
> than reinventing the wheel. So if someone knows any person who
> is
> starting to work on a slim console-based issue tracker, please
> let
> me know. I already did quit a few searches. I know someone is
> working on a console front-end of G-Forge, but a big software
> like
> G-Forge is not what I am thinking of.
> 2. If I start my own, I think I'll be using a console widget
> library
> (ncurse? because it's famous), an SQL database (no problem)
> and a
> programming language. I never developed console application
> before, so here asking for suggestions on what programming
> language to choose. Non of my known language
> php/javascript/awk
> are suitable so I guess I have to learn a new language anyway.
> The
> language better be easy to learn and work with (C++ is out),
> not
> necessarily have complicated calculation feature (like the
> graphical report mantis makes), not necessarily OOP. I have
> perl
> and tcl in my head now, can you make some recommendations?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> ___
>  

RE: Wikipedia's perfection (was Re: Discussion of the relative advantages/disadvantages of PAE (was Re: Memory >3.5GB not used?))

2007-04-25 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Svein Halvor
> Halvorsen
> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 7:00 AM
> To: Lee Capps
> Cc: Thomas Dickey; Bill Moran; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: Wikipedia's perfection (was Re: Discussion of the relative
> advantages/disadvantages of PAE (was Re: Memory >3.5GB not used?))
>
>
> Bill Moran wrote:
> >> A friend of mine going for his Dr. at CMU (Patrick Wagstrom: GNOME guy)
> >> describes an exercise where a professor intentionally injected false
> >> information into Wikipedia, then gave his students a research
>
>
> And also: Where is this professor's ethics? Does he also misinform the
> students in class, only to later accuse them of not verifying the facts?
>   And did he even think about the fact that others may have read his
> misinformation? Why does this professor think that his agenda is more
> important than Wikipedia's? Did he later correct the articles?
>
> I hope this professor got some sort of reaction from his University due
> to his unethical attitude towards openness, knowledge and science.
>

I'm afraid I have to agree.  The Prof was as lazy as his students.  The
world abounds in misinformation, it doesen't take a lot of effort to find
it.  The prof could have spent the hour he spent forging info in Wikipedia,
finding already forged misinformation and having his students research that.
He could have started at the Scientology website, for example, then moved
on to PETA and the NRA.

Ted

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[OT] simpliest way to process this data file

2007-04-25 Thread Zhang Weiwu
I know this is OT but we got so many sysops here and this might be
something very easy for them to drop me a quick answer?

I have a data file formatted like this each block of data consist of
several lines; blocks are separated by empty lines like this

This is a 
block 
of data
with lines

and another block
of
data

The task is to move the last line of each block to the first line of the
block. So the processed data look like this:

with lines
This is a
block
of data

data
and other block
of

I have tried a lot reading info pages of sed still cannot figure out an
easy solution (tried to play with "N" command a lot of times). I know
how to do it in awk but I am pretty interested to learn a second
language and I really think sed or other tools should be able to handle
this:)

-- 
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Real Softservice
http://www.realss.com
+86 592 2091112

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2007-04-25 Thread St.George Security Service

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References

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Re: mesg = dmesg

2007-04-25 Thread Chris Slothouber

KAYVEN RIESE wrote:


i sent a post from a puter with a bad "d" key.  that's why
my subject didn't say "dmesg" like it should have.

sorry.


here is a dmesg output:

Copyright (c) 1992-2006 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE #0: Sun May  7 04:32:43 UTC 2006
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.73GHz (600.02-MHz 686-class CPU)
  Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x6d8  Stepping = 8

Features=0xafe9fbff 


  Features2=0x180
  AMD Features=0x10
real memory  = 536084480 (511 MB)
avail memory = 515223552 (491 MB)
kbd1 at kbdmux0
acpi0:  on motherboard
ACPI-0356: *** Error: Region EmbeddedControl(3) has no handler
ACPI-1304: *** Error: Method execution failed 
[\\_SB_.PCI0.SBRG.EC0_.ACS_] (Node 0xc33998c0), AE_NOT_EXIST
ACPI-1304: *** Error: Method execution failed [\\_SB_.AC__._INI] 
(Node 0xc33993e0), AE_NOT_EXIST

ACPI-0356: *** Error: Region EmbeddedControl(3) has no handler
ACPI-1304: *** Error: Method execution failed 
[\\_SB_.PCI0.SBRG.EC0_.BATS] (Node 0xc33998a0), AE_NOT_EXIST
ACPI-1304: *** Error: Method execution failed [\\_SB_.BAT0._STA] 
(Node 0xc339d720), AE_NOT_EXIST
ACPI-0239: *** Error: Method execution failed [\\_SB_.BAT0._STA] 
(Node 0xc339d720), AE_NOT_EXIST

acpi0: Power Button (fixed)
acpi_ec0:  port 0x62,0x66 on acpi0
Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000
acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x408-0x40b on acpi0
cpu0:  on acpi0
acpi_throttle0:  on cpu0
pcib0:  port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0
pci0:  on pcib0
agp0:  mem 0xe000-0xefff at 
device 0.0 on pci0

pcib1:  at device 1.0 on pci0
pci1:  on pcib1
pci1:  at device 0.0 (no driver attached)
uhci0:  port 0xe800-0xe81f 
irq 11 at device 29.0 on pci0

uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
usb0:  on uhci0
usb0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci1:  port 0xe880-0xe89f 
irq 5 at device 29.1 on pci0

uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED]
usb1:  on uhci1
usb1: USB revision 1.0
uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci2:  port 0xec00-0xec1f 
irq 10 at device 29.2 on pci0

uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED]
usb2:  on uhci2
usb2: USB revision 1.0
uhub2: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
ehci0:  mem 
0xffaffc00-0xffaf irq 10 at device 29.7 on pci0

ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
usb3: EHCI version 1.0
usb3: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2
usb3:  on ehci0
usb3: USB revision 2.0
uhub3: Intel EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub3: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered
pcib2:  at device 30.0 on pci0
pci2:  on pcib2
bge0:  mem 
0xff9f-0xff9f irq 4 at device 0.0 on pci2

miibus0:  on bge0
brgphy0:  on miibus0
brgphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseTX, 
1000baseTX-FDX, auto

bge0: Ethernet address: 00:11:d8:22:c9:91
cbb0:  at device 1.0 on pci2
cardbus0:  on cbb0
pccard0: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb0
cbb1:  at device 1.1 on pci2
cardbus1:  on cbb1
pccard1: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb1
fwohci0:  mem 0xff9ef800-0xff9e irq 10 at device 1.2 
on pci2

fwohci0: OHCI version 1.0 (ROM=1)
fwohci0: No. of Isochronous channels is 4.
fwohci0: EUI64 00:e0:18:00:03:26:4c:e9
fwohci0: Phy 1394a available S400, 2 ports.
fwohci0: Link S400, max_rec 2048 bytes.
firewire0:  on fwohci0
fwe0:  on firewire0
if_fwe0: Fake Ethernet address: 02:e0:18:26:4c:e9
fwe0: Ethernet address: 02:e0:18:26:4c:e9
fwe0: if_start running deferred for Giant
sbp0:  on firewire0
fwohci0: Initiate bus reset
fwohci0: node_id=0xc800ffc0, gen=1, CYCLEMASTER mode
firewire0: 1 nodes, maxhop <= 0, cable IRM = 0 (me)
firewire0: bus manager 0 (me)
pci2:  at device 2.0 (no driver attached)
isab0:  at device 31.0 on pci0
isa0:  on isab0
atapci0:  port 
0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xffa0-0xffaf at device 31.1 on pci0

ata0:  on atapci0
ata1:  on atapci0
pci0:  at device 31.5 (no driver attached)
pci0:  at device 31.6 (no driver attached)
acpi_lid0:  on acpi0
acpi_button0:  on acpi0
acpi_acad0:  on acpi0
battery0:  on acpi0
battery1:  on acpi0
acpi_button1:  on acpi0
acpi_tz0:  on acpi0
atkbdc0:  port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0
atkbd0:  irq 1 on atkbdc0
kbd0 at atkbd0
atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
psm0:  irq 12 on atkbdc0
psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0
sio0: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio0: port may not be enabled
sio0 port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 drq 1 flags 0x10 on acpi0
sio0: type 16550A
ppc0:  port 0x378-0x37f,0x778-0x77f irq 7 drq 
3 on acpi0

ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode
ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/8 bytes threshold
ppbus0:  on ppc0
plip0:  on ppbus0
lpt0:  on ppbus0
lpt

portinstall --batch something

2007-04-25 Thread Stevan Tiefert

Hello list,

what will portinstall do if I give it the --batch argument? Will it 
compile the port with all options it knows or only the standard ones? I 
ask because "man 1 portinstall" or "man 7 ports" is not informative 
enough at this point.


With regards
Stevan Tiefert


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cacti lost it's images

2007-04-25 Thread eternityos


After my last cacti upgrade, I seen it totaly lost it's images and sounds like
it also lost it's css...
The strange... I mean _STRANGE_ thing is when analysing the HTML source... the
images are not even called!!!

No  anywhere

Any idea please ? Am I the only one in this case ?
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Re: Active Directory server on 6-STABLE ?

2007-04-25 Thread Ansar Mohammed

I have OpenLDAP running on FreeBSD 6.x. Simple, effective and reliable. You
can do the same with Active Directory, but you will need Windows 2003. Msg
me offlist if you want to talk about it more.

On 4/25/07, Pat Lashley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I'm looking for a good way to provide a single
authentication/authorization
database for multiple applications in an environment consisting of a
FreeBSD
server and a collection of primarily Windows (XP) clients.  We do NOT want
to use the old Windows Domain protocols; and it doesn't look easy to make
Windows work with anything that isn't a Microsoft work-alike.

Active Directory looks like a good choice; since it should be easy to
access
the database from just about any app that supports LDAP
authentication.  But
so far, I haven't found an implementation of an AD-compatible server that
will
run on FreeBSD.  (This could, in part, reflect my lack of Windows
experience...)

It looks like Samba4 is far enough along to provide the necessary
functionality;
but it doesn't build and run on FreeBSD; and I don't currently have the
time
available to do the porting work.

So, have I completely missed some other solution?  Does someone have
Samba4
running on FreeBSD 6-STABLE?  Do any of you have any other useful
(on-topic)
advice for me?



Thanks,
-Pat
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Re: first of misc questions....

2007-04-25 Thread RW
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 14:53:26 -0700
Bill Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 25, 2007, Thomas Dickey wrote:
> >On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 10:31:45PM +0200, Irsla wrote:
> >> On 4/25/07, Matthew Seaman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >   find . -type f \( -mtime 6 -o -mtime 29 \) -print0 | xargs -0
> >> > vi
> >> >
> >> 
> >> what about the -exec option of find ? I always wonder why people
> >> don't use it.
> >
> >it's simpler but not necessarily as efficient.
> 
> How could it be as efficient as it executes the -exec for every thing
> that find finds? Xargs groups the output (except under rare
> circumstances where one might specify that it run the command for
> each argument).

This is one of those things that isn't actually true, but has been
repeated so many times that people have come to believe it. The -exec
option can be made to pass multiple arguments if it's used correctly.
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Re: Tagging email subject line with something like [fbsd-questions]

2007-04-25 Thread Chad Perrin
On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 10:03:59PM +, Duane Hill wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Apr 2007, Jeff Mohler wrote:
> 
> >I dont think subject tagging is poor at all.
> >
> >whats poor is overly long poorly organized subject lines..but hey..[FBSDQ]
> >aint all that long.
> 
> Then you get someone who either doesn't a) trim the subject or b) the 
> client response as such:
> 
>   Re: [FBSDQ] Re: [FBSDQ] bla bla bla

Since the list is what would attach [FBSDQ] to the subject, it would be
the list that wasn't behaving itself if that happened.

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Re: GELI recovery

2007-04-25 Thread Oliver Peter
On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 02:47:26PM -0400, Alexey Kuzmenko wrote:
> I've turned on debugging and visible password with:
> 
> kern.geom.eli.debug=3
> kern.geom.eli.visible_passphrase=1

Did you make a reboot?
 
> but have nothing in the dmesg concerning my ad0s2 partition and it
> keeps telling "Wrong key for ad0s2". May be I should fsck it before
> doing a geli attachment?

No, of course not. 
You have to attach the geli device before you can perform any action
on it (in your example a fsck).
Otherwise you will completely destroy your crypto device.

If you really have forgotten your password nobody can help you.

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Greylisting -- Was: Anti Spam

2007-04-25 Thread Christopher Hilton
Just my $0.02. Have you considered adding greylisting. I find the 
combination of greylisting and Spamassassin with the SA's bayes filter 
completely handles my spam problem. On my primary MX I use spamd on 
OpenBSD and on my secondary MX I use spamd on FreeBSD. As a very 
informal method of measurement my Inbox.spam folder, held an average of 
400 messages per day in October before I started using spamd. It 
currently averages about 80 messages per day.


If you don't know about greylisting it works as follows. A greylister 
monitors port 25 for inbound mail connections. When a server connects to 
this port to exchange mail the greylister predetermines the response 
based on whether or not this server has exchanged mail in the recent 
past. If it has it's allowed to exchange mail again and the server's 
timestamp is updated. If the server has not exchanged mail in the recent 
past the greylister responds: "45x - I'm too busy to talk to you right 
now. Please try to deliver this mail later". It then puts the server and 
information about the mail being delivered onto a list. If the same 
server tries the same message later it passes and the greylister 
promotes the server onto it's list of okay mail servers (mail servers 
that it has exchanged mail with in the recent past).


Greylisting works because many, and I'd like to say most, spam programs 
never retry message delivery. The best thing about greylisting is that 
combines well with filters like SA by reducing the amount of mail that 
they have to see. In my case something like 80% of the mail that 
Spamassassin used to process just never gets past the greylister today.


The downsides to greylisting is that it delays the first message from a 
legitimate mailserver. In the most common case the incurred delay will 
be between 30 minutes and an hour. This assumes that then sending mail 
server retries queued mails every half hour or so. In an extreme case 
the delay may be longer. If the mail sender has a cluster for delivering 
outbound mails and that cluster features shared message storage and 
several processing units to handle the smtp transfer then the greylister 
will trap that message until the same server attempts redelivery. This 
is a problem with mail coming from very large internet companies like 
Google or AOL or very distributed corporations like General Electric, 
Unilever or United Technologies.


Since you are in an ISP environment greylisting may not be something 
that you can do. I was extremely surprised when a client told me that 
the 1 hr delay in receiving mail from new and infrequent mail servers 
was too much to pay to stop the spam coming into his mailbox. I don't 
claim to know the political layer as much as I do the technical one.



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Re: first of misc questions....

2007-04-25 Thread Gary Kline
On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 10:31:45PM +0200, Irsla wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On 4/25/07, Matthew Seaman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >   find . -type f \( -mtime 6 -o -mtime 29 \) -print0 | xargs -0 vi
> >
> 
> what about the -exec option of find ? I always wonder why people don't use 
> it.
> 
> find . -type f \( -mtime 6 -o -mtime 29 \) -exec vi {} \;
> 
> '{}" <= is the filename find found
> you need a ';" to tell find that the command stops here (in case you
> want to add more options to find) and the '\" is mandatory eitherwise
> your SHELL will interfear.
> 
> btw don't forget the space between the '{}" and the '\;"
> 

Thanks, but I've known this "-exec foo {} \;" for several 
years.  I found it on this -questions list that is about as 
savvy a list as exists!  Thw -mtime N -o -mtime M stuff is
uncommon enough, tho, to not be in my bag of tricks.

:-)

gary


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Re: problem while setting refresh rate in xorg

2007-04-25 Thread freenity

In Xorg.0.log what I found about graphical initialization was this:

=
(II) Setting vga for screen 0.
(II) NVIDIA(0): Creating default Display subsection in Screen section
   "Screen0" for depth/fbbpp 24/32
(==) NVIDIA(0): Depth 24, (==) framebuffer bpp 32
(==) NVIDIA(0): RGB weight 888
(==) NVIDIA(0): Default visual is TrueColor
(==) NVIDIA(0): Using gamma correction ( 1.0, 1.0, 1.0)
(**) NVIDIA(0): Enabling RENDER acceleration
(II) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA GPU GeForce 6100 at PCI:0:5:0 (GPU-0)
(--) NVIDIA(0): Memory: 262144 kBytes
(--) NVIDIA(0): VideoBIOS: 05.51.22.26.08
(--) NVIDIA(0): Interlaced video modes are supported on this GPU
(--) NVIDIA(0): Connected display device(s) on GeForce 6100 at PCI:0:5:0:
(--) NVIDIA(0): LG L1740B (CRT-0)
(--) NVIDIA(0): LG L1740B (CRT-0): 350.0 MHz maximum pixel clock
(II) NVIDIA(0): Assigned Display Device: CRT-0
(WW) NVIDIA(0):
(WW) NVIDIA(0): No modes were requested; the default mode
"nvidia-auto-select"
(WW) NVIDIA(0): will be used as the requested mode.
(WW) NVIDIA(0):
(II) NVIDIA(0): Validated modes:
(II) NVIDIA(0): "nvidia-auto-select"
(II) NVIDIA(0): Virtual screen size determined to be 1280 x 1024
(--) NVIDIA(0): DPI set to (95, 96); computed from "UseEdidDpi" X config
(--) NVIDIA(0): option
(--) Depth 24 pixmap format is 32 bpp
(II) do I need RAC?  No, I don't.
(II) resource ranges after preInit:
   [0] 0   0   0xfc00 - 0xfcff (0x100) MX[B]
   [1] 0   0   0xd000 - 0xdfff (0x1000) MX[B]
   [2] 0   0   0xfd00 - 0xfdff (0x100) MX[B]
   [3] -1  0   0xffe0 - 0x (0x20) MX[B](B)
   [4] -1  0   0x0010 - 0x3fff (0x3ff0) MX[B]E(B)
   [5] -1  0   0x000f - 0x000f (0x1) MX[B]
   [6] -1  0   0x000c - 0x000e (0x3) MX[B]
   [7] -1  0   0x - 0x0009 (0xa) MX[B]
   [8] -1  0   0xfebdc000 - 0xfebdcfff (0x1000) MX[B]E
   [9] -1  0   0xfebd8000 - 0xfebdbfff (0x4000) MX[B]E
   [10] -1 0   0xfebdd000 - 0xfebddfff (0x1000) MX[B]E
   [11] -1 0   0xfebdfc00 - 0xfebd (0x400) MX[B]E
   [12] -1 0   0xfebde000 - 0xfebdefff (0x1000) MX[B]E
   [13] -1 0   0xfebe - 0xfebf (0x2) MX[B](B)
   [14] -1 0   0xfc00 - 0xfcff (0x100) MX[B](B)
   [15] -1 0   0xd000 - 0xdfff (0x1000) MX[B](B)
   [16] -1 0   0xfd00 - 0xfdff (0x100) MX[B](B)
   [17] 0  0   0x000a - 0x000a (0x1) MS[B](OprD)
   [18] 0  0   0x000b - 0x000b7fff (0x8000) MS[B](OprD)
   [19] 0  0   0x000b8000 - 0x000b (0x8000) MS[B](OprD)
   [20] -1 0   0x - 0x (0x1) IX[B]
   [21] -1 0   0x - 0x00ff (0x100) IX[B]
   [22] -1 0   0xdc00 - 0xdcff (0x100) IX[B]E
   [23] -1 0   0xe000 - 0xe07f (0x80) IX[B]E
   [24] -1 0   0xe080 - 0xe0ff (0x80) IX[B]E
   [25] -1 0   0xe400 - 0xe47f (0x80) IX[B]E
   [26] -1 0   0xe480 - 0xe4ff (0x80) IX[B]E
   [27] -1 0   0xe800 - 0xe8ff (0x100) IX[B]E
   [28] -1 0   0xffa0 - 0xffbf (0x20) IX[B]E
   [29] -1 0   0x0700 - 0x07ff (0x100) IX[B]E
   [30] -1 0   0x0600 - 0x06ff (0x100) IX[B]E
   [31] 0  0   0x03b0 - 0x03bb (0xc) IS[B](OprU)
   [32] 0  0   0x03c0 - 0x03df (0x20) IS[B](OprU)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "nvidia-auto-select"
(II) Loading extension NV-GLX
(II) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA 3D Acceleration Architecture Initialized
(II) NVIDIA(0): Using the NVIDIA 2D acceleration architecture
(==) NVIDIA(0): Backing store disabled
(==) NVIDIA(0): Silken mouse enabled
(II) Loading extension NV-CONTROL
(==) RandR enabled
(II) Initializing built-in extension MIT-SHM
(II) Initializing built-in extension XInputExtension
(II) Initializing built-in extension XTEST
(II) Initializing built-in extension XKEYBOARD
(II) Initializing built-in extension XC-APPGROUP
(II) Initializing built-in extension SECURITY
(II) Initializing built-in extension XINERAMA
(II) Initializing built-in extension XFIXES
(II) Initializing built-in extension XFree86-Bigfont
(II) Initializing built-in extension RENDER
(II) Initializing built-in extension RANDR
(II) Initializing built-in extension COMPOSITE
(II) Initializing built-in extension DAMAGE
(II) Initializing built-in extension XEVIE
(II) Initializing extension GLX
===

I put this modeline generated by
http://xtiming.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/xtiming.pl but it still the same 50hz

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On 4/25/07, Kevin Kinsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


freenity wrote:
> Hi.
> I have just installed the nvidia drivers on my FBSD6.2 i386. It work
fine
> but I cant set my refresh rate at 75, it sets at 5

Re: Tagging email subject line with something like [fbsd-questions]

2007-04-25 Thread Duane Hill

On Wed, 25 Apr 2007, Jeff Mohler wrote:


I dont think subject tagging is poor at all.

whats poor is overly long poorly organized subject lines..but hey..[FBSDQ]
aint all that long.


Then you get someone who either doesn't a) trim the subject or b) the 
client response as such:


  Re: [FBSDQ] Re: [FBSDQ] bla bla bla
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Re: first of misc questions....

2007-04-25 Thread Bill Campbell
On Wed, Apr 25, 2007, Thomas Dickey wrote:
>On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 10:31:45PM +0200, Irsla wrote:
>> On 4/25/07, Matthew Seaman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >
>> >   find . -type f \( -mtime 6 -o -mtime 29 \) -print0 | xargs -0 vi
>> >
>> 
>> what about the -exec option of find ? I always wonder why people don't use 
>> it.
>
>it's simpler but not necessarily as efficient.

How could it be as efficient as it executes the -exec for every thing that
find finds? Xargs groups the output (except under rare circumstances where
one might specify that it run the command for each argument).

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Re: Tagging email subject line with something like [fbsd-questions]

2007-04-25 Thread Chad Perrin
On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 03:44:20PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
> 
> I fully expect that there isn't really an answer aside from using mutt's
> list subscription functionality, which unfortunately overwrites the name
> or email of the original sender in the diplay.

Color me surprised.  N. J. Mann provided me with an idea for how to make
it work that seems even more effective than I'd expected.  I stand
corrected, re: my expectation that there wasn't a good answer.

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Re: Wikipedia's perfection (was Re: Discussion of the relative advantages/disadvantages of PAE (was Re: Memory >3.5GB not used?))

2007-04-25 Thread Thomas Sparrevohn
On Wednesday 25 April 2007 21:21:47 Thomas Dickey wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 01:58:55PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
> > I definitely agree that's suboptimal.  I'd expand that to include other
> > sorts of pages, other than webpages, as well.  It's pretty rare for this
> > particular brand of intellectually lazy person to realize that about the
> > printed page, though.
> 
> I recall reading some interesting comments from studies (second hand, e.g.,
> in Science News) which stated that people tended to believe things that
> were presented in a credible fashion, not questioning them - using the
> paper or page as an authority which amplified their own general beliefs
> on a topic.
> 
> Aside from the circular referencing that occurs when believing that...
> 
> It's certainly hard to see where/how to decide to stop and question the
> authority, given that premise (knowing that one is biased).  But it's
> perhaps a good habit to get into - observing that reading things that
> one already agrees with are perhaps as problematic as those that one
> does not.
> 

If there was an easy answer to this quistion most con attists would be
out of a job. Even high ranking universities has been known to employ
a con man from time to time - so while the discussion is relevant - i don't 
see any reason that this thread should not be in chat ;-) 


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Re: Tagging email subject line with something like [fbsd-questions]

2007-04-25 Thread Chad Perrin
On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 10:38:52PM +0100, N.J. Mann wrote:
> 
> Right.  In an earlier message you mentioned mutt and procmail, so here
> is a procmail/mutt solution.  First off write a procmail recipe that
> matches the mail list(s) you wish to "flag".  In the action line of said
> recipe use formail to add the header X-Status.  Configure mutt to "high
> light" message which contain the X-Status header.

That's an excellent idea.  Thank you.


> 
> If you want me to give you a step-by-step it will have to wait until
> tomorrow because it is time for me to hit the sack.  If you can't wait
> that long look in the archives for the procmail users' mailing about 6
> or so years ago - may be even longer: flagging is what this is called.

I'm sure I can figure it out, now that I have a general approach in mind
to research.


> 
> Oh, just remembered, the above assumes you are using mbox format.  If
> you are using maildir there is a solution, but the action is different.

I'm using mbox, so no worries.  Again, thank you.  I really appreciate
it.

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Re: Tagging email subject line with something like [fbsd-questions]

2007-04-25 Thread Chad Perrin
On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 03:37:41PM -0600, Warren Block wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Apr 2007, Chad Perrin wrote:
> >On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 02:53:40PM +0100, Alex Zbyslaw wrote:
> >>
> >>All messages are already tagged with a List-ID
> >>
> >>e.g.
> >>
> >>List-Id: User questions 
> >
> >Do you have any suggestions for how to do something similar with mutt or
> >procmail?
> 
> procmail can filter out duplicates and sort messages into "folders" 
> (directories under ~/mail):
> 
> PATH=$HOME/procmail:/usr/bin:/usr/ucb:/bin:/usr/local/bin:.
> MAILDIR=$HOME/mail
> # DEFAULT=$MAILDIR/mbox
> LOGFILE=$HOME/.procmaillog
> LOCKFILE=$HOME/.lockmail
> 
> # Weed out duplicate messages.
> :0 Wh: msgid.lock
> | /usr/local/bin/formail -D 8192 $HOME/.msgid.cache
> 
> # FreeBSD Questions Mailing list
> :0
> * ^List-Id:.*freebsd-questions.freebsd.org
> $MAILDIR/FreeBSD-Questions
> 
> This puts questions messages in a "folder" called FreeBSD-Questions 
> (which you should probably create beforehand).  You'll also need a 
> .forward file or FEATURE(local_procmail) in your sendmail .mc file to 
> use procmail.

If I wanted them in different "folders", I'd have sorted them that way.
Unfortunately, what I'd like is a way to visually mark messages as 
originating from a specific mailing list.  Separating them into a
bunch of "folders" just reduces the likelihood I'll get to all my email
in a given day.  I appreciate the attempt to help, but it doesn't
address my actual preferences.

I fully expect that there isn't really an answer aside from using mutt's
list subscription functionality, which unfortunately overwrites the name
or email of the original sender in the diplay.

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Re: Tagging email subject line with something like [fbsd-questions]

2007-04-25 Thread N.J. Mann
On Wednesday, 25 April, 2007 at 15:14:59 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 10:03:05PM +0100, N.J. Mann wrote:
> > On Wednesday, 25 April, 2007 at 14:47:30 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
> > > On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 09:30:42PM +0100, N.J. Mann wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mail-procmail.html
> > > 
> > > I wasn't referring to a desire for instructions on how to use procmail.
> > 
> > Sorry, but that is what I thought you were after.
> > 
> > > I was hoping for some suggestion as to what to set up.  It's usually
> > > not really polite to change subject lines on a mailing list, so using
> > > procmail to add [fbsdq] (or whatever) to the beginning of every subject
> > > line doesn't really strike me as a good solution to the problem.
> > 
> > Now I am totally confused.  What exactly do you want?
> > 
> > (If you want to add or remove something from the subject line during
> > local mail delivery use formail.)
> 
> I'm looking for an easy way to visually mark messages as being from the
> freebsd-questions list so I can recognize them at a glance without
> screwing with the subject line if I reply.

Right.  In an earlier message you mentioned mutt and procmail, so here
is a procmail/mutt solution.  First off write a procmail recipe that
matches the mail list(s) you wish to "flag".  In the action line of said
recipe use formail to add the header X-Status.  Configure mutt to "high
light" message which contain the X-Status header.

If you want me to give you a step-by-step it will have to wait until
tomorrow because it is time for me to hit the sack.  If you can't wait
that long look in the archives for the procmail users' mailing about 6
or so years ago - may be even longer: flagging is what this is called.

Oh, just remembered, the above assumes you are using mbox format.  If
you are using maildir there is a solution, but the action is different.


Cheers,
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Re: Tagging email subject line with something like [fbsd-questions]

2007-04-25 Thread Warren Block

On Wed, 25 Apr 2007, Chad Perrin wrote:

On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 02:53:40PM +0100, Alex Zbyslaw wrote:


All messages are already tagged with a List-ID

e.g.

List-Id: User questions 


Do you have any suggestions for how to do something similar with mutt or
procmail?


procmail can filter out duplicates and sort messages into "folders" 
(directories under ~/mail):


PATH=$HOME/procmail:/usr/bin:/usr/ucb:/bin:/usr/local/bin:.
MAILDIR=$HOME/mail
# DEFAULT=$MAILDIR/mbox
LOGFILE=$HOME/.procmaillog
LOCKFILE=$HOME/.lockmail

# Weed out duplicate messages.
:0 Wh: msgid.lock
| /usr/local/bin/formail -D 8192 $HOME/.msgid.cache

# FreeBSD Questions Mailing list
:0
* ^List-Id:.*freebsd-questions.freebsd.org
$MAILDIR/FreeBSD-Questions

This puts questions messages in a "folder" called FreeBSD-Questions 
(which you should probably create beforehand).  You'll also need a 
.forward file or FEATURE(local_procmail) in your sendmail .mc file to 
use procmail.


-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
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Re: first of misc questions....

2007-04-25 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 10:31:45PM +0200, Irsla wrote:
> On 4/25/07, Matthew Seaman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >   find . -type f \( -mtime 6 -o -mtime 29 \) -print0 | xargs -0 vi
> >
> 
> what about the -exec option of find ? I always wonder why people don't use 
> it.

it's simpler but not necessarily as efficient.

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Re: Tagging email subject line with something like [fbsd-questions]

2007-04-25 Thread Chad Perrin
On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 10:03:05PM +0100, N.J. Mann wrote:
> On Wednesday, 25 April, 2007 at 14:47:30 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 09:30:42PM +0100, N.J. Mann wrote:
> > > 
> > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mail-procmail.html
> > 
> > I wasn't referring to a desire for instructions on how to use procmail.
> 
> Sorry, but that is what I thought you were after.
> 
> > I was hoping for some suggestion as to what to set up.  It's usually
> > not really polite to change subject lines on a mailing list, so using
> > procmail to add [fbsdq] (or whatever) to the beginning of every subject
> > line doesn't really strike me as a good solution to the problem.
> 
> Now I am totally confused.  What exactly do you want?
> 
> (If you want to add or remove something from the subject line during
> local mail delivery use formail.)

I'm looking for an easy way to visually mark messages as being from the
freebsd-questions list so I can recognize them at a glance without
screwing with the subject line if I reply.

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Re: Tagging email subject line with something like [fbsd-questions]

2007-04-25 Thread N.J. Mann
On Wednesday, 25 April, 2007 at 14:47:30 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 09:30:42PM +0100, N.J. Mann wrote:
> > 
> > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mail-procmail.html
> 
> I wasn't referring to a desire for instructions on how to use procmail.

Sorry, but that is what I thought you were after.

> I was hoping for some suggestion as to what to set up.  It's usually
> not really polite to change subject lines on a mailing list, so using
> procmail to add [fbsdq] (or whatever) to the beginning of every subject
> line doesn't really strike me as a good solution to the problem.

Now I am totally confused.  What exactly do you want?

(If you want to add or remove something from the subject line during
local mail delivery use formail.)


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Re: first of misc questions....

2007-04-25 Thread Irsla

Hi,

On 4/25/07, Matthew Seaman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


   find . -type f \( -mtime 6 -o -mtime 29 \) -print0 | xargs -0 vi



what about the -exec option of find ? I always wonder why people don't use it.

find . -type f \( -mtime 6 -o -mtime 29 \) -exec vi {} \;

'{}" <= is the filename find found
you need a ';" to tell find that the command stops here (in case you
want to add more options to find) and the '\" is mandatory eitherwise
your SHELL will interfear.

btw don't forget the space between the '{}" and the '\;"


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Re: Tagging email subject line with something like [fbsd-questions]

2007-04-25 Thread Jeff Mohler

I dont think subject tagging is poor at all.

whats poor is overly long poorly organized subject lines..but hey..[FBSDQ]
aint all that long.



On 4/25/07, Alex Zbyslaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Amarendra Godbole wrote:

> I subscribe to many fbsd lists through gmail, and am not able to
> visually detect which email was sent to which fbsd list. Is it
> possible to add a tag in the subject line, something like, [fbsd-q],
> or [fbsd-questions], or similar so that emails can be visually
> classified?
>
> Given that these lists have been around for a long time, was there a
> discussion on this? If the idea of tagging was dropped, can someone
> inform me about the rationale behind this decision? Thanks in advance!

All messages are already tagged with a List-ID

e.g.

List-Id: User questions 

Can gmail not filter on that?

Visual tagging of subject lines is a poor solution.  Either you tag at
the front

   "[fbsd-questions]  Really long subject line that gets truncated even
earlier thanks to the tag"

or at the end

  "Really long subject line where the tag disappears in a haze of ...
[fbsd-questions]"

Neither of which is satisfactory, and for most people with sensible
email environments that can filter of Header lines, an unnecessary
inconvenience.

Not to mention the question of how on earth you co-ordinate unique tags
across mailing lists.  Since the List-ID isn't constrained by length it
can contain the email address of the list, which is already unique.

If you can't filter on the List-ID then filter on To and Cc lines which
contain [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Not as
good, but it would do.

--Alex


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Re: Tagging email subject line with something like [fbsd-questions]

2007-04-25 Thread Chad Perrin
On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 09:30:42PM +0100, N.J. Mann wrote:
> 
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mail-procmail.html

I wasn't referring to a desire for instructions on how to use procmail.
I was hoping for some suggestion as to what to set up.  It's usually
not really polite to change subject lines on a mailing list, so using
procmail to add [fbsdq] (or whatever) to the beginning of every subject
line doesn't really strike me as a good solution to the problem.

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Re: can't add any new users

2007-04-25 Thread Chad Perrin
On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 12:31:54PM -0700, Charlie McElfresh wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I recently upgraded all my machines to 6.2 RELEASE.  All my machines except
> one work fine.
> 
> On one of my machines, I can log in from the console to the super user
> account, but I could not su to my user account.
> 
> So, I backed up all my data, and I deleted my user account.  Then, I added
> it back with adduser.
> 
> When I look in /etc/passwd and /etc/group, I'm in there.
> 
> When I try to su to my newly created account, I get this message:
> 
> Bad system call (core dumped)
> 
> I tried removing my account with rmuser, then adding it back again -- same
> problem.
> 
> Any ideas?

That sounds more like a problem with su than with the account.

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Re: Tagging email subject line with something like [fbsd-questions]

2007-04-25 Thread N.J. Mann
On Wednesday, 25 April, 2007 at 14:05:21 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 02:53:40PM +0100, Alex Zbyslaw wrote:
> > Amarendra Godbole wrote:
> > 
> > >I subscribe to many fbsd lists through gmail, and am not able to
> > >visually detect which email was sent to which fbsd list. Is it
> > >possible to add a tag in the subject line, something like, [fbsd-q],
> > >or [fbsd-questions], or similar so that emails can be visually
> > >classified?
> > >
> > >Given that these lists have been around for a long time, was there a
> > >discussion on this? If the idea of tagging was dropped, can someone
> > >inform me about the rationale behind this decision? Thanks in advance!
> > 
> > All messages are already tagged with a List-ID
> > 
> > e.g.
> > 
> > List-Id: User questions 
> > 
> > Can gmail not filter on that?
> 
> Do you have any suggestions for how to do something similar with mutt or
> procmail?

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mail-procmail.html


Cheers,
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Re: Digital signed mail- certificate issuing

2007-04-25 Thread David Southwell
On Wednesday 25 April 2007 13:19:36 Jeffrey Goldberg wrote:
> On Apr 25, 2007, at 11:10 AM, David Southwell wrote:
> > Can anyone please tell me the simplest way I can issue my customers
> > a means of
> > digitally signing emails they transmit to us via our server. I need
> > the
> > chosen method to be compatible with most popular email clients and
> > popular
> > webmail services.
>
> As someone said, PGP and S/MIME are really the two choices.  Neither
> will be simple enough to go smoothly with all of your users,
> particular your webmail users.  Both involve understanding some
> apparently tricky concepts, although your users (but not you) can be
> spared from many of them.  Particularly if you wish to issue
> certificates (either client certificates or a self-signed server
> certificate) you need to develop a good understanding of how things
> are supposed to work.
>
> > Every customer has their identity and email addresses stored on our
> > mysql
> > database.
> >
> > Essentially my target is , as far as possible, to ensure that emails
> > purporting to come from my customers are indeed from them and noone
> > else.
>
> Do you need to know that it really is from such and such person, or
> can you get by with knowing that it really is from such and such
> email address?  If the latter will be enough, then you can use the
> same sort of confirmation mechanism that is used by mailing list
> management systems.  Simply require a response sent to a confirmation
> request sent to the email address you are trying to authenticate.
>
> Also, why does this have to be an email based system instead of a web
> based one?  
We need to cater for communications from ships at sea that are able to use  
slow wireless email systems but are not able to access the web.

Thanks
david

> For the latter users can authenticate with a simple 
> username and password.
>
> -j


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RE: Single Instance Service

2007-04-25 Thread GARRISON, TRAVIS J.
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-freebsd-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of GARRISON, TRAVIS J.
> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 10:04 PM
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Single Instance Service
> 
> 
> I am looking for software that will run on FreeBSD that is similar to
> Microsoft Single Instance Service.
> 
> The Single Instance Storage Filter is a file system filter that
manages
> the duplicate copies of files on hard-disk volumes. This filter copies
one
> instance of the duplicate file into a central folder, and the
duplicates
> are replaced with a link to the central copy to improve disk usage.
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Is this something that is not possible under FreeBSD?
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Re: Wikipedia's perfection (was Re: Discussion of the relative advantages/disadvantages of PAE (was Re: Memory >3.5GB not used?))

2007-04-25 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 01:58:55PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
> I definitely agree that's suboptimal.  I'd expand that to include other
> sorts of pages, other than webpages, as well.  It's pretty rare for this
> particular brand of intellectually lazy person to realize that about the
> printed page, though.

I recall reading some interesting comments from studies (second hand, e.g.,
in Science News) which stated that people tended to believe things that
were presented in a credible fashion, not questioning them - using the
paper or page as an authority which amplified their own general beliefs
on a topic.

Aside from the circular referencing that occurs when believing that...

It's certainly hard to see where/how to decide to stop and question the
authority, given that premise (knowing that one is biased).  But it's
perhaps a good habit to get into - observing that reading things that
one already agrees with are perhaps as problematic as those that one
does not.

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Re: Digital signed mail- certificate issuing

2007-04-25 Thread Jeffrey Goldberg

On Apr 25, 2007, at 11:10 AM, David Southwell wrote:

Can anyone please tell me the simplest way I can issue my customers  
a means of
digitally signing emails they transmit to us via our server. I need  
the
chosen method to be compatible with most popular email clients and  
popular

webmail services.


As someone said, PGP and S/MIME are really the two choices.  Neither  
will be simple enough to go smoothly with all of your users,  
particular your webmail users.  Both involve understanding some  
apparently tricky concepts, although your users (but not you) can be  
spared from many of them.  Particularly if you wish to issue  
certificates (either client certificates or a self-signed server  
certificate) you need to develop a good understanding of how things  
are supposed to work.


Every customer has their identity and email addresses stored on our  
mysql

database.

Essentially my target is , as far as possible, to ensure that emails
purporting to come from my customers are indeed from them and noone  
else.


Do you need to know that it really is from such and such person, or  
can you get by with knowing that it really is from such and such  
email address?  If the latter will be enough, then you can use the  
same sort of confirmation mechanism that is used by mailing list  
management systems.  Simply require a response sent to a confirmation  
request sent to the email address you are trying to authenticate.


Also, why does this have to be an email based system instead of a web  
based one?  For the latter users can authenticate with a simple  
username and password.


-j

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Re: Active Directory server on 6-STABLE ?

2007-04-25 Thread Chris
Pat Lashley wrote:
> I'm looking for a good way to provide a single authentication/authorization
> database for multiple applications in an environment consisting of a
> FreeBSD
> server and a collection of primarily Windows (XP) clients.  We do NOT want
> to use the old Windows Domain protocols; and it doesn't look easy to make
> Windows work with anything that isn't a Microsoft work-alike.
> 
> Active Directory looks like a good choice; since it should be easy to
> access
> the database from just about any app that supports LDAP authentication. 
> But
> so far, I haven't found an implementation of an AD-compatible server
> that will
> run on FreeBSD.  (This could, in part, reflect my lack of Windows
> experience...)
> 
> It looks like Samba4 is far enough along to provide the necessary
> functionality;
> but it doesn't build and run on FreeBSD; and I don't currently have the
> time
> available to do the porting work.
> 
> So, have I completely missed some other solution?  Does someone have Samba4
> running on FreeBSD 6-STABLE?  Do any of you have any other useful
> (on-topic)
> advice for me?

Pat - your not going to find a good "fit" with FreeBSD and LDAP.
The closest you will get to near-AD via Unix is here.

http://directory.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation

You may find this will better suit your needs.

It has mine.

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Re: Tagging email subject line with something like [fbsd-questions]

2007-04-25 Thread Chad Perrin
On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 02:53:40PM +0100, Alex Zbyslaw wrote:
> Amarendra Godbole wrote:
> 
> >I subscribe to many fbsd lists through gmail, and am not able to
> >visually detect which email was sent to which fbsd list. Is it
> >possible to add a tag in the subject line, something like, [fbsd-q],
> >or [fbsd-questions], or similar so that emails can be visually
> >classified?
> >
> >Given that these lists have been around for a long time, was there a
> >discussion on this? If the idea of tagging was dropped, can someone
> >inform me about the rationale behind this decision? Thanks in advance!
> 
> All messages are already tagged with a List-ID
> 
> e.g.
> 
> List-Id: User questions 
> 
> Can gmail not filter on that?

Do you have any suggestions for how to do something similar with mutt or
procmail?

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Active Directory server on 6-STABLE ?

2007-04-25 Thread Pat Lashley

I'm looking for a good way to provide a single authentication/authorization
database for multiple applications in an environment consisting of a FreeBSD
server and a collection of primarily Windows (XP) clients.  We do NOT want
to use the old Windows Domain protocols; and it doesn't look easy to make
Windows work with anything that isn't a Microsoft work-alike.

Active Directory looks like a good choice; since it should be easy to access
the database from just about any app that supports LDAP authentication.  But
so far, I haven't found an implementation of an AD-compatible server that will
run on FreeBSD.  (This could, in part, reflect my lack of Windows experience...)

It looks like Samba4 is far enough along to provide the necessary functionality;
but it doesn't build and run on FreeBSD; and I don't currently have the time
available to do the porting work.

So, have I completely missed some other solution?  Does someone have Samba4
running on FreeBSD 6-STABLE?  Do any of you have any other useful (on-topic)
advice for me?



Thanks,
-Pat 
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Re: Wikipedia's perfection (was Re: Discussion of the relative advantages/disadvantages of PAE (was Re: Memory >3.5GB not used?))

2007-04-25 Thread Chad Perrin
On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 03:29:04PM -0400, Thomas Dickey wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 01:15:03PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
> > No kidding.  That professor should have his Wikipedia account banned,
> > and the head of his department should be informed of his vandalism.  I
> > don't suppose you know the name of his Wikipedia account, or his legal
> > name. . . .
> 
> yawn.  That sort of research has been going on for years.

The fact that some idiot professor takes leave of his senses every few
months doesn't change the fact that these idiot professors should not be
held accountable for vandalism.


> 
> Less interesting is the sort of trash emitted by people who don't like
> knowing that whatever they've read on a webpage might not be completely
> accurate, and that they might have to do some of their own thinking.

I definitely agree that's suboptimal.  I'd expand that to include other
sorts of pages, other than webpages, as well.  It's pretty rare for this
particular brand of intellectually lazy person to realize that about the
printed page, though.

I'm amused at the appropriateness of my randomly chosen sig to this
topic, by the way.

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Re: Wikipedia's perfection (was Re: Discussion of the relative advantages/disadvantages of PAE (was Re: Memory >3.5GB not used?))

2007-04-25 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Wednesday, April 25, 2007 15:29:04 -0400 Thomas Dickey 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 01:15:03PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:

No kidding.  That professor should have his Wikipedia account banned,
and the head of his department should be informed of his vandalism.  I
don't suppose you know the name of his Wikipedia account, or his legal
name. . . .


yawn.  That sort of research has been going on for years.

Less interesting is the sort of trash emitted by people who don't like
knowing that whatever they've read on a webpage might not be completely
accurate, and that they might have to do some of their own thinking.

regards.


At one time I had high hopes that the internet would usher in a new era of 
increased knowledge and reduced gullibility.  Instead it seems to have 
simply hastened the arrival to the wrong conclusions.


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Re: strange effect building large storage server

2007-04-25 Thread Christoph Schug
On Wed, Apr 25, 2007, Christoph Schug wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 25, 2007, Frank Altpeter wrote:
> 
> > [Please CC me in replies, since i'm not subscribed to the list...]
> > 
> > 
> > Hi there,
> > 
> > I was just hitting a quite strange problem with installing
> > FreeBSD-6.2-RELEASE on an x86 platform...
> > 
> > The machine itself provides a SATA raid controller, which is
> > equipped with 12x500G disks, making a total of about 5 TB space.
> > So, because of the 2GB restriction of freebsd, i decided to create 4
> > partitions: da0s1 with 60G for the system, and da0s2 - da0s4 with ($rest /
> > 3). Then, creating two partitions on da0s2 - da0s4 with each ($rest / 6)
> > in size, making the system partitions and 6 x 816G partitions.
> > After installation and startup, i see strange things happen, since
> [...]
> 
> I would rather guess you're encountering limitations of an MBR style
> partition table. Take a look at gpt(8) to overcome 2 GB limits.

Oops, s/GB/TB/ of course

-cs
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remote x forwarding through ssh

2007-04-25 Thread WarrenHead

Hi list,

I'm trying to use ssh to forward X from a local FreeBSD server to my 
ubuntu machine.

I'm unable to get X forwarded. (ssh is working)

I set these options:
ubuntu:
/etc/ssh/ssh_config
Host *
ForwardX11 yes
ForwardAgent yes

FreeBSD
/etc/ssh/sshd_config
X11Forwarding yes
X11DisplayOffset 10
X11UseLocalhost yes
UseLogin no

I didn't set the $DISPLAY variable, on purpose.

After I log into the server and start xterm (for instance) I get this
message: DISPLAY is not set.
SSH should do that for me but I guess it doesn't.
I don't know why.

I logged into FreeBSD with these commands:
ssh -v freebsd
ssh -v -X freebsd
ssh -v -X -A freebsd

What could be the cause? Client or server?

Cheers, Warren

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can't add any new users

2007-04-25 Thread Charlie McElfresh

Hi,

I recently upgraded all my machines to 6.2 RELEASE.  All my machines except
one work fine.

On one of my machines, I can log in from the console to the super user
account, but I could not su to my user account.

So, I backed up all my data, and I deleted my user account.  Then, I added
it back with adduser.

When I look in /etc/passwd and /etc/group, I'm in there.

When I try to su to my newly created account, I get this message:

Bad system call (core dumped)

I tried removing my account with rmuser, then adding it back again -- same
problem.

Any ideas?

Charlie
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Re: strange effect building large storage server

2007-04-25 Thread Christoph Schug
On Wed, Apr 25, 2007, Frank Altpeter wrote:

> [Please CC me in replies, since i'm not subscribed to the list...]
> 
> 
> Hi there,
> 
> I was just hitting a quite strange problem with installing
> FreeBSD-6.2-RELEASE on an x86 platform...
> 
> The machine itself provides a SATA raid controller, which is
> equipped with 12x500G disks, making a total of about 5 TB space.
> So, because of the 2GB restriction of freebsd, i decided to create 4
> partitions: da0s1 with 60G for the system, and da0s2 - da0s4 with ($rest /
> 3). Then, creating two partitions on da0s2 - da0s4 with each ($rest / 6)
> in size, making the system partitions and 6 x 816G partitions.
> After installation and startup, i see strange things happen, since
[...]

I would rather guess you're encountering limitations of an MBR style
partition table. Take a look at gpt(8) to overcome 2 GB limits.

-cs
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Re: Wikipedia's perfection (was Re: Discussion of the relative advantages/disadvantages of PAE (was Re: Memory >3.5GB not used?))

2007-04-25 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 01:15:03PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
> No kidding.  That professor should have his Wikipedia account banned,
> and the head of his department should be informed of his vandalism.  I
> don't suppose you know the name of his Wikipedia account, or his legal
> name. . . .

yawn.  That sort of research has been going on for years.

Less interesting is the sort of trash emitted by people who don't like
knowing that whatever they've read on a webpage might not be completely
accurate, and that they might have to do some of their own thinking.

regards.

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Re: first of misc questions....

2007-04-25 Thread Gary Kline
On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 06:21:52AM -0500, Derek Ragona wrote:
> At 02:29 AM 4/25/2007, Gary Kline wrote:
> >Guys,
> >
> >This is an awk-type question.  Hopefully a one-liner.  If I
> >need to use #!/usr/bin/awk and a BEGIN/END (or whatever it is),
> >that's okay...
> >
> >I want to do an ls -l in a  /home/kline/ and find and
> >edit files that are dated (let's say) Apr 19 or Mar 26.  This
> >works to print $9 the filenames.
> >
> >ls -l| awk '{if ($6 == "Apr" && $7 == 19  || $6 == "Mar" && $7
> >== 26 ) print $9}'
> >
> >What's the final part to get awk to vi $9?  Or another pipe and
> >xargs and  "vi"?  Nothing simple works, so thanks for any
> >clues!
> 
> I would use a simple approach incase you need to re-edit the list since 
> editing will change file times:
> ls -l| awk '{if ($6 == "Apr" && $7 == 19  || $6 == "Mar" && $7 == 26 ) 
> print $9}' > /tmp/myfilelist
> then you can:
> for i in `cat /tmp/myfilelist`;do vi $i;done
> 
> if you don't want to use a file, you can do in one shell loop too, but 
> again this will change your file modification times:
> for i in `ls -l| awk '{if ($6 == "Apr" && $7 == 19  || $6 == "Mar" && $7 == 
> 26 ) print $9}'`;do vi $i;done


Yep; this is the simple kind of script I had in mind first but
wasn't sure if/how it would work.  Your one-liner works 
"as-advertized", but then as you note, the timestamp is
changed!! (duh)...  So it does make more sense to put the list
into a /tmp/ file.  Save typing when I re-edit.

thanks much, indeed,

gary


> 
> -Derek
> 
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Re: Wikipedia's perfection (was Re: Discussion of the relative advantages/disadvantages of PAE (was Re: Memory >3.5GB not used?))

2007-04-25 Thread Chad Perrin
On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 03:59:43PM +0200, Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote:
> Bill Moran wrote:
> >>A friend of mine going for his Dr. at CMU (Patrick Wagstrom: GNOME guy)
> >>describes an exercise where a professor intentionally injected false
> >>information into Wikipedia, then gave his students a research assignment
> >>that involved that information.  Apparently the number of students who
> >>trusted the false information without verifying it was quite high.  I
> >>should take that as a lesson that most people _don't_ know how to verify
> >>the validity of information and be more careful when I make sarcastic
> >>statements.
> 
> Lee Capps wrote:
> >That's interesting, though, to pick a nit, it may just show that 
> >students were in a hurry, rather than that they necessarily trust the 
> >info or that they don't know _how_ to verify the info.
> 
> And also: Where is this professor's ethics? Does he also misinform the 
> students in class, only to later accuse them of not verifying the facts? 
>  And did he even think about the fact that others may have read his 
> misinformation? Why does this professor think that his agenda is more 
> important than Wikipedia's? Did he later correct the articles?

No kidding.  That professor should have his Wikipedia account banned,
and the head of his department should be informed of his vandalism.  I
don't suppose you know the name of his Wikipedia account, or his legal
name. . . .

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Re: GELI recovery

2007-04-25 Thread Alexey Kuzmenko

I've turned on debugging and visible password with:

kern.geom.eli.debug=3
kern.geom.eli.visible_passphrase=1

but have nothing in the dmesg concerning my ad0s2 partition and it
keeps telling "Wrong key for ad0s2". May be I should fsck it before
doing a geli attachment?

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Re: first of misc questions....

2007-04-25 Thread Gary Kline
On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 08:49:56AM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: RIPEMD160
> 
> Gary Kline wrote:
> > Guys,
> > 
> > This is an awk-type question.  Hopefully a one-liner.  If I
> > need to use #!/usr/bin/awk and a BEGIN/END (or whatever it is),
> > that's okay...
> > 
> > I want to do an ls -l in a  /home/kline/ and find and
> > edit files that are dated (let's say) Apr 19 or Mar 26.  This
> > works to print $9 the filenames.  
> > 
> >  ls -l| awk '{if ($6 == "Apr" && $7 == 19  || $6 == "Mar" && $7
> >  == 26 ) print $9}'
> > 
> >  What's the final part to get awk to vi $9?  Or another pipe and
> >  xargs and  "vi"?  Nothing simple works, so thanks for any
> >  clues!
> > 
> 
> xargs(1) is your friend.
> 
> Simply arrange for your awk script to print out the names of all the
> files you have selected to edit, then pipe the result into xargs.
> Like so:
> 
> ls -l| awk '{if ($6 == "Apr" && $7 == 19  || $6 == "Mar" && $7 == 26 )
> print $9}' | xargs vi


Doing a pipe thru "xargs vi" is the first thing that
failed--with:

ex/vi: Vi's standard input and output must be a terminal


whereas 

 ls -l| awk '{if ($6 == "Apr" && $7 == 19  || $6 == "Mar" && $7
 == 26 ) print $9}'   


printed a slew of files to stdout.  

> 
> This does assume that the file names you are using do not contain
> spaces, quote marks, brackets or other characters of syntactical
> significance to the shell.  In that case you could use something like
> this:
> 
>find . -type f \( -mtime 6 -o -mtime 29 \) -print0 | xargs -0 vi


No, no non-ASCII characters in the filenames.  I'll try the -0
and see if that gets rid of the "must be a terminal" blurb...


ph 11:47  [5133] ls -l| awk '{if ($6 == "Apr" && $7 == 19  || $6 ==
"Mar" && $7 == 26 ) print $9}' | xargs  -0 vi
ex/vi: Files with newlines in the name are unrecoverable
ex/vi: Modifications not recoverable if the session fails
ex/vi: Vi's standard input and output must be a terminal


Ah, so vi sees "filename\n" ... perhaps.  [?]




> 
> where find's '-print0' and the '-0' flag to xargs make the commands
> produce and consume respectively a null separated list of filenames.
> 
> Unfortunately with find(1) there doesn't seem to be a way of expressing
> an absolute date / time -- all you can do is the time difference between
> now and when you want (which defaults to 'number of days' but can be set
> to use various other time units.  I can think of a couple of ways of
> calculating that, but personally I'd find it cleaner to just roll the
> whole thing into a small perl script which identified the files in
> question and forked off an instance of vi(1) to do the editing.
> 


You're probably right about the script.  There are at least
dozens of files around ...  they could be /bin/mv'd or cp'd to 
a tmp and then run thru vi.--Or??

thanks much, Matthew.  appreciate it,

gary


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strange effect building large storage server

2007-04-25 Thread Frank Altpeter
[Please CC me in replies, since i'm not subscribed to the list...]


Hi there,

I was just hitting a quite strange problem with installing
FreeBSD-6.2-RELEASE on an x86 platform...

The machine itself provides a SATA raid controller, which is
equipped with 12x500G disks, making a total of about 5 TB space.
So, because of the 2GB restriction of freebsd, i decided to create 4
partitions: da0s1 with 60G for the system, and da0s2 - da0s4 with ($rest /
3). Then, creating two partitions on da0s2 - da0s4 with each ($rest / 6)
in size, making the system partitions and 6 x 816G partitions.
After installation and startup, i see strange things happen, since

/dev/da0s2d
/dev/da0s2e
/dev/da0s3e

are working, but

/dev/da0s3d
/dev/da0s4d
/dev/da0s4e

give me errors:

mount: /dev/da0s3d: Input/output error
mount: /dev/da0s4d: No such file or directory
mount: /dev/da0s4e: No such file or directory


The partition table looks ok to me:

*** Working on device /dev/da0 ***
parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are:
cylinders=668656 heads=255 sectors/track=63 (16065 blks/cyl)

Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1
parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are:
cylinders=668656 heads=255 sectors/track=63 (16065 blks/cyl)

Media sector size is 512
Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1
Information from DOS bootblock is:
The data for partition 1 is:
sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD)
start 63, size 125821017 (61436 Meg), flag 80 (active)
beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 1;
end: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63
The data for partition 2 is:
sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD)
start 125821080, size 3537882495 (1727481 Meg), flag 0
beg: cyl 1023/ head 255/ sector 63;
end: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63
The data for partition 3 is:
sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD)
start 3663703575, size 3537882495 (1727481 Meg), flag 0
beg: cyl 1023/ head 255/ sector 63;
end: cyl 1023/ head 165/ sector 59
The data for partition 4 is:
sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD)
start 2906618774, size 3537882495 (1727481 Meg), flag 0
beg: cyl 1023/ head 255/ sector 63;
end: cyl 1023/ head 76/ sector 55



while the disklabel output looks a litte bit strange:

# /dev/da0s2:
8 partitions:
#size   offsetfstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
  c: 35378824950unused0 0 # "raw" part, don't 
edit
  d: 176789913604.2BSD 2048 16384 28552
  e: 1769983359 17678991364.2BSD 2048 16384 28552

# /dev/da0s3:
8 partitions:
#size   offsetfstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
  c: 35378824950unused0 0 # "raw" part, don't 
edit
  d: 176789913604.2BSD0 0 0
  e: 1769983359 17678991364.2BSD 2048 16384 28552

disklabel: /dev/da0s4: no valid label found




Does anyone have a hint what problem i'm hitting here? Any input is
greatly appreciated...



Tìoraidh an-dràsda,

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java build error

2007-04-25 Thread RYAN M. vAN GINNEKEN

Hello all i am getting this error when trying to install java jdk15 from the 
ports. please help and thank you in advance 

acpi0_check: nexus0 
attachedom/sun/jmx/mbeanserver/MBeanInstantiatorImpl.java:162: warning: 
non-varargs call of varargsacpi0_check: legacy0 not-presentpe for last 
parameter; 
cast to java.lang.Object for a varargs call acpi0_check: npx0 attached 
cast to java.lang.Object[] for a non-varargs call and to suppress this warning 
acpi0_check: acpi0 attachednewInstance(null); 
^ 
Note: * uses or overrides a deprecated API. 
Note: Recompile with -Xlint:deprecation for details. 
Note: Some input files use unchecked or unsafe operations. 
Note: Recompile with -Xlint:unchecked for details. 
21 errors 
12 warnings 
gmake[3]: *** [.compile.classlist] Error 1 
gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/java/jdk15/work/j2se/make/java/java' 
gmake[2]: *** [all] Error 1 
gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/java/jdk15/work/j2se/make/java' 
gmake[1]: *** [all] Error 1 
gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/java/jdk15/work/j2se/make' 
gmake: *** [j2se-build] Error 2 
*** Error code 2 

Stop in /usr/ports/java/jdk15. 
*** Error code 1 



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LDAP and xscreensaver

2007-04-25 Thread Vulpes Velox
xscreensaver: couldn't get password of "kitsune"
xscreensaver: 13:54:14: locking is disabled (error getting password).
xscreensaver: 13:54:14: does xscreensaver need to be setuid?  consult
the manual.

Is what I am getting on the console when I run it. It is setuid. The
passwords and userinfo is stored in LDAP.

Any ideas?
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Re: Emulex LP9002 - FreeBSD 6.2

2007-04-25 Thread Ansar Mohammed

I do not believe they are supported

http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.2R/hardware-i386.html




On 4/25/07, Marlon Menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



>From: Lowell Gilbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Marlon Menezes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>Subject: Re: Emulex LP9002 - FreeBSD 6.2
>Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 11:58:26 -0400
>
>"Marlon Menezes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > I am a newbie with FreeBSD and I am having problems in order to get my
> > HBA Emulex LP9002 working on a FreeBSD version 6.2.
> >
> > Can you help me? Is there any one with experience with HBA setup on
> > FreeBSD that can help me?"
>
>HBA should be transparent, as far as I recall.
>You'll need to be more specific.
>

This is a Host Bus Adapter that uses the protocol Fibre Channel to
communicate with Storage Arrays (Like Shark from IBM, Clariion from
EMC..),
I need to install it on a FreeBSD system, but I don't have the driver that
allows the OS to communicate with the Storage array.
On a Emulex website (The vendor of the HBA) there are drivers to Suse and
RHEL, but there are no drivers to FreeBSD.

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Re: Emulex LP9002 - FreeBSD 6.2

2007-04-25 Thread Marlon Menezes



From: Lowell Gilbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Marlon Menezes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Emulex LP9002 - FreeBSD 6.2
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 11:58:26 -0400

"Marlon Menezes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I am a newbie with FreeBSD and I am having problems in order to get my
> HBA Emulex LP9002 working on a FreeBSD version 6.2.
>
> Can you help me? Is there any one with experience with HBA setup on
> FreeBSD that can help me?"

HBA should be transparent, as far as I recall.
You'll need to be more specific.



This is a Host Bus Adapter that uses the protocol Fibre Channel to 
communicate with Storage Arrays (Like Shark from IBM, Clariion from EMC..),  
I need to install it on a FreeBSD system, but I don't have the driver that 
allows the OS to communicate with the Storage array.
On a Emulex website (The vendor of the HBA) there are drivers to Suse and 
RHEL, but there are no drivers to FreeBSD.


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Re: Digital signed mail- certificate issuing

2007-04-25 Thread Chuck Swiger

On Apr 25, 2007, at 9:10 AM, David Southwell wrote:
Can anyone please tell me the simplest way I can issue my customers  
a means of
digitally signing emails they transmit to us via our server. I need  
the
chosen method to be compatible with most popular email clients and  
popular

webmail services.


The most commonly used solution for this is PGP (aka GnuPG, OpenPGP,  
etc).  It's somewhat intrusive, but it is reasonably well supported  
by most clients.  It can be used with webmail services using a local  
client to sign and/or encrypt the message before pasting it into the  
webmail's send form.


Another less commonly used alternative is known as S/MIME.  It  
doesn't work well with webmail, and some MUA clients have problems  
with it, too.


Every customer has their identity and email addresses stored on our  
mysql

database.

Essentially my target is, as far as possible, to ensure that emails
purporting to come from my customers are indeed from them and noone  
else.


You're never going to be able to prevent someone from forging emails  
which claim to be from a client.


You might be able to convince motivated clients to always use PGP/ 
GnuPG for signing mail, so that forgeries can be readily identified  
by someone knowledgeable, but be aware that most normal computer  
users have significant problems dealing with PGP.


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Re: problem while setting refresh rate in xorg

2007-04-25 Thread Kevin Kinsey

freenity wrote:

Hi.
I have just installed the nvidia drivers on my FBSD6.2 i386. It work fine
but I cant set my refresh rate at 75, it sets at 50 with a resolution
1280x1024. The monitor is LG Flatron L1740B and my video card is Geforce
6100.
Here is my xorg.conf file:
Thanks for any help.



I just allow DDC to do its thing; also, 
/var/log/Xorg.0.log might have some clues ---

for example, what modelines are discovered for
your hardware set?

Kevin Kinsey


Section "ServerLayout"
   Identifier "X.org Configured"
   Screen  0  "Screen0" 0 0
   InputDevice"Mouse0" "CorePointer"
   InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "Files"
   RgbPath  "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
   ModulePath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
   FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
   FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/"
   FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
   FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/"
   FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
   FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
EndSection

Section "Module"
   Load  "dbe"
   Load  "dri"
   Load  "extmod"
   Load  "glx"
   Load  "record"
   Load  "xtrap"
   Load  "freetype"
   Load  "type1"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
   Identifier  "Keyboard0"
   Driver  "kbd"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
   Identifier  "Mouse0"
   Driver  "mouse"
   Option  "Protocol" "auto"
   Option  "Device" "/dev/psm0"
   Option  "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
   Identifier   "Monitor0"
   VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
   ModelName"Monitor Model"

   HorizSync40-80  #60
   VertRefresh  50-90  #75

EndSection

Section "Device"
   ### Available Driver options are:-
   ### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False",
   ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz"
   ### [arg]: arg optional
   #Option "ShadowFB"  # []
   #Option "DefaultRefresh"# []
   #Option "ModeSetClearScreen"# []
   Identifier  "Card0"
   Driver  "nvidia"
   VendorName  "nVidia Corporation"
   BoardName   "C51 PCI Express Bridge"
   BusID   "PCI:0:5:0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
   Identifier "Screen0"
   Device "Card0"
   Monitor"Monitor0"

   SubSection "Display"
   Viewport   0 0
   Depth 16
   Modes"1024x768"
   EndSubSection
   SubSection "Display"
   Viewport   0 0
   Depth 16
   Modes   "1280x1024"
   EndSubSection

EndSection



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problem while setting refresh rate in xorg

2007-04-25 Thread freenity

Hi.
I have just installed the nvidia drivers on my FBSD6.2 i386. It work fine
but I cant set my refresh rate at 75, it sets at 50 with a resolution
1280x1024. The monitor is LG Flatron L1740B and my video card is Geforce
6100.
Here is my xorg.conf file:
Thanks for any help.


Section "ServerLayout"
   Identifier "X.org Configured"
   Screen  0  "Screen0" 0 0
   InputDevice"Mouse0" "CorePointer"
   InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "Files"
   RgbPath  "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
   ModulePath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
   FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
   FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/"
   FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
   FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/"
   FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
   FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
EndSection

Section "Module"
   Load  "dbe"
   Load  "dri"
   Load  "extmod"
   Load  "glx"
   Load  "record"
   Load  "xtrap"
   Load  "freetype"
   Load  "type1"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
   Identifier  "Keyboard0"
   Driver  "kbd"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
   Identifier  "Mouse0"
   Driver  "mouse"
   Option  "Protocol" "auto"
   Option  "Device" "/dev/psm0"
   Option  "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
   Identifier   "Monitor0"
   VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
   ModelName"Monitor Model"

   HorizSync40-80  #60
   VertRefresh  50-90  #75

EndSection

Section "Device"
   ### Available Driver options are:-
   ### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False",
   ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz"
   ### [arg]: arg optional
   #Option "ShadowFB"  # []
   #Option "DefaultRefresh"# []
   #Option "ModeSetClearScreen"# []
   Identifier  "Card0"
   Driver  "nvidia"
   VendorName  "nVidia Corporation"
   BoardName   "C51 PCI Express Bridge"
   BusID   "PCI:0:5:0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
   Identifier "Screen0"
   Device "Card0"
   Monitor"Monitor0"

   SubSection "Display"
   Viewport   0 0
   Depth 16
   Modes"1024x768"
   EndSubSection
   SubSection "Display"
   Viewport   0 0
   Depth 16
   Modes   "1280x1024"
   EndSubSection

EndSection
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Quotacheck failing

2007-04-25 Thread Don O'Neil
I'm having a problem with quotacheck failing and giving this message:

quotacheck: /home/quota.user: seek failed: Invalid argument THE FOLLOWING
FILE SYSTEM HAD AN UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY:
/dev/twed0s1d (/home)

However, I have run a full fsck from single user mode on this volume and it
comes up clean every time. I've removed the quota.user and had it
re-generated, but that didn't help either.

Anyone know how/why this is happening, and what do try to do to fix it? Is
there possible some corrupt file somewhere on the volume that quotacheck
doesn't like, but is technically fine according to fsck? 

Thanks for any suggestions!

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Re: 3600 MCP Support

2007-04-25 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Sean Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes (for the second time in less
than 24 hours):

> I was thinking about purchasing a Sun server that used the AMD CPU and
> the NVIDIA nForce Professional 3600 MCP.  Is the 3600 Supported?

Probably.  I can't easily find information on exactly what hardware is
in that system.  You might need the nfe driver, which I don't believe
is in the 6.x tree at this time, but has reportedly been added to HEAD.

Try it out...
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3600 MCP Support

2007-04-25 Thread Sean Murphy
I was thinking about purchasing a Sun server that used the AMD CPU and 
the NVIDIA nForce Professional 3600 MCP.  Is the 3600 Supported?

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Digital signed mail- certificate issuing

2007-04-25 Thread David Southwell
Hi

Can anyone please tell me the simplest way I can issue my customers a means of 
digitally signing emails they transmit to us via our server. I need the 
chosen method to be compatible with most popular email clients and popular 
webmail services. 

Every customer has their identity and email addresses stored on our mysql 
database.

Essentially my target is , as far as possible, to ensure that emails 
purporting to come from my customers are indeed from them and noone else.

Running freebsd 6.1

postfix
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Re: Emulex LP9002 - FreeBSD 6.2

2007-04-25 Thread Lowell Gilbert
"Marlon Menezes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I am a newbie with FreeBSD and I am having problems in order to get my
> HBA Emulex LP9002 working on a FreeBSD version 6.2.
>
> Can you help me? Is there any one with experience with HBA setup on
> FreeBSD that can help me?"

HBA should be transparent, as far as I recall.
You'll need to be more specific.

 
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Re: cvsup-mirror supfile configuration for specific source

2007-04-25 Thread Lowell Gilbert
"Anthony Human" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Currently we have quite a number of servers running either 5.5 Release
> or 6.2 Release. I would like to configure a BSD box as a cvsup-mirror to
> serve our internal servers. I am doing this to hopefully save both time
> and bandwidth when updating.
>  
> Please could someone assist me with configuring the supfile to only
> download the source for the above versions? Any other advice/tips would
> be much appreciated.

If you're running a local cvsup mirror, just grab the whole cvs tree
for the sources (and the ports).  You can leave out the bug database,
and a few other distributions, but it's probably not worth your while
to get the checked-out sources instead of the cvs files.
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Re: Which module for Garmin USB gps device?

2007-04-25 Thread Lowell Gilbert
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> Hello List!

Hello, Milan!

> What is the appropriate module for accessing USB GPS devices like Garmin
> eTrex?

There may not be one.

> When plugged in, dmesg shows ugen0 (which I guess is not a serial port
> emulation of usb).

Right.  It's just a "generic USB" device node.

> Manually loading "kldload ucom" does not create any new devices.

Emulating a serial port isn't the only way to provide an interface.

A quick search showed me the comms/garmin-utils port.
Have you tried this?

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Re: How do I forward old root emails from the root mailbox to my address?

2007-04-25 Thread Christoph Schug
On Wed, Apr 25, 2007, Andreas Widerøe Andersen wrote:

> Thanks for your reply. I don't have mutt installed and I was hoping for a
> way of doing this without installing additional software. Also, I didn't
> mention that on one of the machines there are probably a year of emails so
> the box is quite large.

Well, this one requires additional software too, but maybe you've got
formail(1) (which is part of the procmail(1) distribution) installed.

# formail -f -s /usr/sbin/sendmail -oiee [EMAIL PROTECTED] \
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Re: Problem with Quotacheck after crash

2007-04-25 Thread Lowell Gilbert
"Don O'Neil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> This question is related to my recent question about not being able to
> delete files after a disk crash... I solved that problem with the chflags
> (the no-delete flag was set!).. Thanks for all who suggested it.
>
> Now that I've deleted the files, I thought this problem would go away, but
> its not:
>
>  quotacheck: /home/quota.user: seek failed: Invalid argument
> THE FOLLOWING FILE SYSTEM HAD AN UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY:
> /dev/twed0s1d (/home)
>
> I've run an fsck on the volume from single user mode, after deleting the
> files, and it was clean, but I still get this error. I deleted the
> quota.user & quota.group files because they were corrupted when the crash
> happened. 
>
> I'm at a loss as to what to do next, any suggestions?

Run fsck again (with, as always, the filesystem not mounted) and keep
doing so until you get a run with no errors being corrected.  Don't
trust it if it tells you the filesystem is clean.
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Re: Tagging email subject line with something like [fbsd-questions]

2007-04-25 Thread Amarendra Godbole

On 4/25/07, Andy Greenwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On 4/25/07, Alex Zbyslaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Amarendra Godbole wrote:
>
> > I subscribe to many fbsd lists through gmail, and am not able to
> > visually detect which email was sent to which fbsd list. Is it
> > possible to add a tag in the subject line, something like, [fbsd-q],
> > or [fbsd-questions], or similar so that emails can be visually
> > classified?
> >
> > Given that these lists have been around for a long time, was there a
> > discussion on this? If the idea of tagging was dropped, can someone
> > inform me about the rationale behind this decision? Thanks in advance!
>
> All messages are already tagged with a List-ID
>
> e.g.
>
> List-Id: User questions 
>
> Can gmail not filter on that?

it's not documented, but you can filter like this

listid:freebsd-questions.freebsd.org

under the "has the words" section of the filter creation page.

[...]

Thanks all for your suggestions and clarifications. I do agree that
visual tagging increases the length of the subject line a bit too much
to fit in one screen properly. I will setup gmail filters, as
suggested.

-Amarendra
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Re: lost+found

2007-04-25 Thread Robert Huff
Bill Moran writes:

>  > What is lost+found? I've got one on all my filesystems and
>  > over the past few days i've had things being deleted from
>  > there. Do i have a problem? 
>  
>  When fsck finds problems with the filesystem, it saves any data
>  that otherwise may have been lost to this directory.

To elaborate a little:
When fsck finds a file that no directory thinks belongs to
it. it stores that file in the "lost+found" directory of that
partition as "#".



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Emulex LP9002 - FreeBSD 6.2

2007-04-25 Thread Marlon Menezes


Hi list,

I am a newbie with FreeBSD and I am having problems in order to get my HBA 
Emulex LP9002 working on a FreeBSD version 6.2.


Can you help me? Is there any one with experience with HBA setup on FreeBSD 
that can help me?"


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Re: lost+found

2007-04-25 Thread Bill Moran
In response to "Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Hello,
> What is lost+found? I've got one on all my filesystems and over the past 
> few days i've had things being deleted from there. Do i have a problem?

When fsck finds problems with the filesystem, it saves any data that otherwise
may have been lost to this directory.

This is likely to happen if your system is powered off without a proper
shutdown.  If you use softupdates on your filesystems, this is not done
because softupdates has other ways to deal with the problem.

Don't shut off your system without properly unmounting the filesystems and
you won't have this problem.  If you aren't missing any data, you can
delete the files in there.

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lost+found

2007-04-25 Thread Dave

Hello,
   What is lost+found? I've got one on all my filesystems and over the past 
few days i've had things being deleted from there. Do i have a problem?

Thanks.
Dave.

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Re: [freebsd-questions] Mount an iso image?

2007-04-25 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Apr 25), Howard Jones said:
> Dan Nelson wrote:
> > If that's all you need, there's an even easier way: "tar tvf
> > mycd.iso", since libarchive understands the iso9660 filesystem
> > format :)
>
> That's a useful trick!
> 
> Is there an equivalent for ufs filesystems? I'd like to be able to
> extract files from a floppy image without needing root privs... I'm
> writing a script to prepare a PXE-install environment from a set of
> release ISOs.

You could try using a "dump -f - ufsfs.img | restore -if -" pipeline;
dump to read the filesystem and restore -i to give you a simple
navigation interface.  Libarchive only handles the iso9660 format
because it happens to be readable sequentially with no seeking.

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Re: Wikipedia's perfection (was Re: Discussion of the relative advantages/disadvantages of PAE (was Re: Memory >3.5GB not used?))

2007-04-25 Thread Svein Halvor Halvorsen

Bill Moran wrote:

A friend of mine going for his Dr. at CMU (Patrick Wagstrom: GNOME guy)
describes an exercise where a professor intentionally injected false
information into Wikipedia, then gave his students a research assignment
that involved that information.  Apparently the number of students who
trusted the false information without verifying it was quite high.  I
should take that as a lesson that most people _don't_ know how to verify
the validity of information and be more careful when I make sarcastic
statements.


Lee Capps wrote:
That's interesting, though, to pick a nit, it may just show that 
students were in a hurry, rather than that they necessarily trust the 
info or that they don't know _how_ to verify the info.


And also: Where is this professor's ethics? Does he also misinform the 
students in class, only to later accuse them of not verifying the facts? 
 And did he even think about the fact that others may have read his 
misinformation? Why does this professor think that his agenda is more 
important than Wikipedia's? Did he later correct the articles?


I hope this professor got some sort of reaction from his University due 
to his unethical attitude towards openness, knowledge and science.




Svein Halvor
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Re: Thunderbird 2.0

2007-04-25 Thread Drew Sanford

Scott I. Remick wrote:

On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 10:12:06 -0700, FreeBSD WickerBill wrote:


I portupgraded thunderbird today (6.1 p11, KDE 3.5.6_2) and while it's
semi-functional, it does seg fault as it checks the pop server. 

...

These problems were fixed by uninstalling all broken extensions and removing
the theme I was using and installing the default theme.


Hmm, I don't even get that far. TB 2.0 just immediately seg faults for me
(after coming up and showing itself, apparently as it's checking but it's
not "semi-functional" for me at all). Didn't have much time to look into it
this morning before work but I do have a number of extensions so maybe my
problem is similar to yours (I use IMAP though). I assume TB has a safemode
switch similar to Firefox's... I'll have to look into it tonight or
tomorrow. Anyone else seeing TB 2.0 crash on startup?



No, but I am seeing it core dump rather strangely. Each time it starts 
up, I can open a file dialog box to save an attachment or attach a file 
one time just fine. The second time I try to attach or save a file on 
any start up, it crashes.

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USB console or other alternatives

2007-04-25 Thread Doug Lee
I'm one of these guys running FreeBSD 4.11 on very old hardware (a
Pentium 166, specifically), and I want to upgrade to FreeBSD 6 or 7
soon but with new hardware.  Being blind, I need to use something
other than the video card for a console.  I've been using a serial
console for a long time, but serial ports are getting scarce.  I need
the console to become active during the boot sequence in case of
problems, as it can with a serial console.  As I did with FreeBSD 3
and 4, I will also want to activate this console during FreeBSD
installation if possible, so I don't have to have someone else be here
when I install it.

Can modern hardware and a modern FreeBSD version provide console
access before the kernel loads via USB or via anything other than an
actual on-board or PCI serial port?

Please Cc answers.  Thanks very much for any info.


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Re: GELI recovery

2007-04-25 Thread Rat Paranoid

I can't attach the partition through geli attach. It keeps asking the
password and teling that it is wrong

On 4/25/07, Karsten Rothemund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

is the key realy gone or can the encrypted partition just not be
mounted?

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Re: Thunderbird 2.0

2007-04-25 Thread Erik Norgaard



On Wed, 25 Apr 2007, Scott I. Remick wrote:


On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 10:12:06 -0700, FreeBSD WickerBill wrote:


I portupgraded thunderbird today (6.1 p11, KDE 3.5.6_2) and while it's
semi-functional, it does seg fault as it checks the pop server.

...

These problems were fixed by uninstalling all broken extensions and removing
the theme I was using and installing the default theme.


Hmm, I don't even get that far. TB 2.0 just immediately seg faults for me
(after coming up and showing itself, apparently as it's checking but it's
not "semi-functional" for me at all). Didn't have much time to look into it
this morning before work but I do have a number of extensions so maybe my
problem is similar to yours (I use IMAP though). I assume TB has a safemode
switch similar to Firefox's... I'll have to look into it tonight or
tomorrow. Anyone else seeing TB 2.0 crash on startup?


When I first started TB it would fade in a info window with a resumen of 
mails recieved - then crash. Disabling this feature solved the problem. I 
use IMAP too.


Maybe you can edit the prefs.js to not check mail on startup and see if it 
will start up, then play around with settings.


Cheers, Erik
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Re: Tagging email subject line with something like [fbsd-questions]

2007-04-25 Thread Andy Greenwood

On 4/25/07, Alex Zbyslaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Amarendra Godbole wrote:

> I subscribe to many fbsd lists through gmail, and am not able to
> visually detect which email was sent to which fbsd list. Is it
> possible to add a tag in the subject line, something like, [fbsd-q],
> or [fbsd-questions], or similar so that emails can be visually
> classified?
>
> Given that these lists have been around for a long time, was there a
> discussion on this? If the idea of tagging was dropped, can someone
> inform me about the rationale behind this decision? Thanks in advance!

All messages are already tagged with a List-ID

e.g.

List-Id: User questions 

Can gmail not filter on that?


it's not documented, but you can filter like this

listid:freebsd-questions.freebsd.org

under the "has the words" section of the filter creation page.



Visual tagging of subject lines is a poor solution.  Either you tag at
the front

   "[fbsd-questions]  Really long subject line that gets truncated even
earlier thanks to the tag"

or at the end

  "Really long subject line where the tag disappears in a haze of ...
[fbsd-questions]"

Neither of which is satisfactory, and for most people with sensible
email environments that can filter of Header lines, an unnecessary
inconvenience.

Not to mention the question of how on earth you co-ordinate unique tags
across mailing lists.  Since the List-ID isn't constrained by length it
can contain the email address of the list, which is already unique.

If you can't filter on the List-ID then filter on To and Cc lines which
contain [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Not as
good, but it would do.

--Alex


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Re: Tagging email subject line with something like [fbsd-questions]

2007-04-25 Thread Alex Zbyslaw

Amarendra Godbole wrote:


I subscribe to many fbsd lists through gmail, and am not able to
visually detect which email was sent to which fbsd list. Is it
possible to add a tag in the subject line, something like, [fbsd-q],
or [fbsd-questions], or similar so that emails can be visually
classified?

Given that these lists have been around for a long time, was there a
discussion on this? If the idea of tagging was dropped, can someone
inform me about the rationale behind this decision? Thanks in advance!


All messages are already tagged with a List-ID

e.g.

List-Id: User questions 

Can gmail not filter on that?

Visual tagging of subject lines is a poor solution.  Either you tag at 
the front


  "[fbsd-questions]  Really long subject line that gets truncated even 
earlier thanks to the tag"


or at the end

 "Really long subject line where the tag disappears in a haze of ... 
[fbsd-questions]"


Neither of which is satisfactory, and for most people with sensible 
email environments that can filter of Header lines, an unnecessary 
inconvenience.


Not to mention the question of how on earth you co-ordinate unique tags 
across mailing lists.  Since the List-ID isn't constrained by length it 
can contain the email address of the list, which is already unique.


If you can't filter on the List-ID then filter on To and Cc lines which 
contain [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Not as 
good, but it would do.


--Alex


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Re: Thunderbird 2.0

2007-04-25 Thread Scott I. Remick
On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 10:12:06 -0700, FreeBSD WickerBill wrote:

> I portupgraded thunderbird today (6.1 p11, KDE 3.5.6_2) and while it's
> semi-functional, it does seg fault as it checks the pop server. 
...
> These problems were fixed by uninstalling all broken extensions and removing
> the theme I was using and installing the default theme.

Hmm, I don't even get that far. TB 2.0 just immediately seg faults for me
(after coming up and showing itself, apparently as it's checking but it's
not "semi-functional" for me at all). Didn't have much time to look into it
this morning before work but I do have a number of extensions so maybe my
problem is similar to yours (I use IMAP though). I assume TB has a safemode
switch similar to Firefox's... I'll have to look into it tonight or
tomorrow. Anyone else seeing TB 2.0 crash on startup?

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Re: Wikipedia's perfection (was Re: Discussion of the relative advantages/disadvantages of PAE (was Re: Memory >3.5GB not used?))

2007-04-25 Thread Lee Capps


On Apr 25, 2007, at 8:55 AM, Bill Moran wrote:



A friend of mine going for his Dr. at CMU (Patrick Wagstrom: GNOME  
guy)

describes an exercise where a professor intentionally injected false
information into Wikipedia, then gave his students a research  
assignment

that involved that information.  Apparently the number of students who
trusted the false information without verifying it was quite high.  I
should take that as a lesson that most people _don't_ know how to  
verify

the validity of information and be more careful when I make sarcastic
statements.


That's interesting, though, to pick a nit, it may just show that  
students were in a hurry, rather than that they necessarily trust the  
info or that they don't know _how_ to verify the info.


---
Lee Capps
Technology Specialist
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Re: How do I forward old root emails from the root mailbox to my address?

2007-04-25 Thread Andreas Widerøe Andersen

On 4/25/07, Steve Bertrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Oliver Peter wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 11:11:07AM +0200, Andreas Widere Andersen wrote:
>> Hi,
>> On one of my FreeBSD servers all system emails to root is stored in the
root
>> mailbox under /var/mail/root. I have updated my alias file so new mail
is
>> forwarded to one of my email adresses, but is there a simple way for me
to
>> send all these old mails in root's mailbox to my email address without
>> logging in through pop3/imap?

Perform the following command, assuming 'user' is the account you have
with the alias to somewhere else:

# mail -f /var/mail/root -F user

..which will merrily dump each message to the alias user, and from there
forward it to your email account.

Steve



Sweet!
Thank you all for helping out.

Cheers,
Andreas
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Re: Defending against SSH attacks with pf

2007-04-25 Thread Alex Zbyslaw

Bill Moran wrote:


I'm a big fan of PKI, but PKI suffers from one major problem, and it's
the same flaw that physical keys suffer from: you have to have the key
with you.
 

If I had to use SSH from random locations, I'd get a USB stick that 
attached to a (physical) keyring and just stick it with my (physical) 
keys since I already have to carry those everywhere.  The SSH keys 
should be protected by decent passphrases so even losing the USB stick 
isn't the biggest deal.  Imation seem to make one that has one of those 
climbing-style buckles:  
http://www.misco.co.uk/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=247840&CatId=322


Probably you could fit the install file for PuTTY on there too, in case 
you had to use from a primitive windows environment.


--Alex


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Re: Tagging email subject line with something like [fbsd-questions]

2007-04-25 Thread Erik Norgaard

On Wed, 25 Apr 2007, Amarendra Godbole wrote:


Hi,

I subscribe to many fbsd lists through gmail, and am not able to
visually detect which email was sent to which fbsd list. Is it
possible to add a tag in the subject line, something like, [fbsd-q],
or [fbsd-questions], or similar so that emails can be visually
classified?

Given that these lists have been around for a long time, was there a
discussion on this? If the idea of tagging was dropped, can someone
inform me about the rationale behind this decision? Thanks in advance!


For gmail you can create filters that add a label depending on the 
to-address. I don't know how it works.


I think that's what you want - and it is likely much easier than trying to 
take up the discussion...


Cheers, Erik
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