FreeBSD 6.0 && fdisk = bad disk geometry ?

[Theorem]

I'm having trouble setting up a new RAID5 array.  It's a RocketRAID 1740 with 4x 
500G disks, in RAID5 this gives approx. 1.5T of space.  It looks like it's 
operating properly on /dev/da0 .


Unfortunately, when I go to FDISK this via /usr/sbin/sysinstall I see the same 
error over and over and over trying to set my disk to the right cycls / heads / 
sectors.


here are 2 screenshots of the messages :

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y260/theorem21/manual_set_err.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y260/theorem21/repeat_set_err.jpg

Even trying to set the disk manually gives the "repeat_set_err.jpg", so I can't 
possibly have a correct disk geometry.


Can anyone help me out ?  Any suggestions are welcome, I don't know if ignoring 
this is the best option.




Thanks,

theorem
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Running iPass Roamserver on FSB v5.4 Release

[Mark Stout]

Hello,

Has anyone successfully installed the latest iPass Roamserver on a FreeBSD
v5.4 machine?

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Building ld-linux.so.2

[Mark Stout]

Hello,

I'm trying to find where I can either get a copy of ld-linux.so.2 or build
the library for BSD v5.4 RELEASE.  Can anyone help me?


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Sysinstall

[Doug Hardie]

Some time ago I seem to remember being able to use sysinstall from a  
newer version CD to update an existing system.  What I wanted to do  
was keep the original disk partitioning and just install the new  
system over the old one.  However, with 6.2 release I don't seem to  
be able to do it anymore.  When I get to the disk partitioning it  
shows the FreeBSD partition properly, but the name has changed from  
da0s1 to da0bs1.  Hence when I get to the next step of setting up the  
slices it cant find da0sb1 as its not in the system.  There doesn't  
appear to be any option to correct the name.

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vietnamese input

[vuthecuong]

Is there a utility to allow input vietnamese?
Currently I'm using Scim-anthy for Japanese input.
I heared that m17n can be used to input about 17 languages including 
Vietnamese.

I already searched Google but still dont know  what is it's exact name.
Could anyone give me some info about input Vietnamese.
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Setting the baud rate

[Jordon Hofer]

I am developing a windows utility to analyse data it receives through a 
serial port.  To test it, need to simulate the data it receives.  I made 
a file in FreeBSD 4.11 that is a single packet.  I need to send the data 
in this file out the serial port at 4800 baud.  I would like to do a "cp 
file /dev/cuaa0" or "cat file > /dev/cuaa0" but when I do this, it goes 
out at the wrong baud rate.  When I run "stty -f /dev/cuaa0", I see that 
cuaa0 is set to 9600 baud.  When i run "stty -f /dev/cuaa0 4800", it 
seems to run without error, but the baud rate doesnt change.  How do I 
set the baud rate for the serial port so i can just redirect data to it 
and the data will be sent out at 4800 baud?


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Re: music-generator for FreeBSD?

[Gary Kline]

On Tue, May 01, 2007 at 01:26:48AM +0200, Jona Joachim wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 08:47:51 -0700
> Gary Kline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Guys,
> > 
> > This is a bit off-topic, but maybe somebody out there can
> > give me someclues.  Bearing in mind that I know zip about music
> > composition, is there a MIDI (or mp3 or other) toolkit that
> > would generate short background slices of music?  
> > 
> > Say that I wanted some jazzy melody for several seconds.  This
> > application would generate it.  Or a classical tune.  Last
> > night I found a possibly MIDI app for Windows; there were several that
> > Google found that  mentioned Linux but nothing panned out.
> > 
> > Anybod know?
> 
> Take a look at Pure Data (audio/pd in the ports). I just found out
> about it. It doesn't really create jazz melodies but it such a great
> synthesizer. It allows you to arrange objects graphically, like
> oscillators and analog/digital converters and combine them to create
> sounds. It's a real graphical programming language.
> 

Ah,great...  I'll give this puppy a try.   I'm not opposed to
learning yet-another-programming-language.  Just that I'm 
thinking that at least *some*knowledhe of music theory is
necessary.   Maybe not!

gary

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> Jona
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Re: music-generator for FreeBSD?

[Gary Kline]

On Mon, Apr 30, 2007 at 02:25:49PM -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote:
> Gary Kline wrote:
> > Guys,
> >
> > This is a bit off-topic, but maybe somebody out there can give me
> > someclues.  Bearing in mind that I know zip about music
> > composition, is there a MIDI (or mp3 or other) toolkit that would
> > generate short background slices of music?  
> >
> > Say that I wanted some jazzy melody for several seconds.  This
> > application would generate it.  Or a classical tune.  Last night
> > I found a possibly MIDI app for Windows; there were several that
> > Google found that  mentioned Linux but nothing panned out.
> >
> > Anybod know?
> >
> > gary
> 
> Check out audacity. It does MP3/WAV generation.


Ok, it's on my Gnome menu.  Any idea what I'd do to 
gen up some notes??  What I'd like is some buttons marked
"Jazz", "Smphony", "Ambient", "Drums", &c.  Generate some
things-MIDI with rand()/srand().

danke!

gary


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Re: music-generator for FreeBSD?

[Gary Kline]

On Mon, Apr 30, 2007 at 03:44:06PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 30, 2007 at 01:41:44PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
> > 
> > I changed my search terms on Gogle and found a bunch of likely
> > programs.  One is written is a special notation and has to do
> > with LOGO [??] programming.  The test MIDI "songs" are nice, 
> > and would serve IFF very short :-)  ---They get more than a bit
> > **annoying** after 20 sec :-|.
> 
> Tell us about what you found, please.  I, for one, am interested in
> music production on FreeBSD, and something using a Logo-based notation
> syntax sounds really interesting.
> 

Google "lmusej".  It's a Java version of an ex-DOS program.
java -jar [script] runs it.  But the language is a kind of
music-notation or composition.  It is fractal in nature; that
grabs me.  LOGO and "turtle" (?) were after my graduation;
and until now, little interest.

The LmUSEj website offers several *.mid ditties; several
with fractal graphics.  Looks interesting if you want to 
create, say, a 10-second bit of music with a minor (or major)
theme.  *HOW*:: dunno!

gary


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Re: How to find HorizSync / VertRefresh rates?

[Greg 'groggy' Lehey]

On Monday, 30 April 2007 at 11:02:54 +0200, Victor Engmark wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm trying to create a pristine xorg.conf, but I've been unable to
> find proper values for HorizSync and VertRefresh for my Dell Latitude
> D610.
>
> I've tried the values presented in MonitorsDB
> 
> for "Dell 1400x1050 Laptop Display Panel", which are HorizSync
> 31.5-90.0 and VertRefresh 59.0-75.0, but I get a warning in
> /var/log/Xorg.0.log for both of them saying they are "not within DDC
> ranges."
>
> I've tried looking around the Dell web pages, but I haven't found any
> pages mentioning these parameters (not too surprising, really).
>
> I've tried to leave these settings out, but even then I get a warning:
> (WW) I810(0): config file hsync range 60-66.3158kHz not within DDC hsync
> ranges.
>
> I'm wondering if this has anything to do with the other warnings I get
> during startup:
> (WW) I810(0): Bad V_BIOS checksum
> and
> (WW) I810(0): Extended BIOS function 0x5f05 failed.

This, along with the follow-ups, reminds me of a problem I had with a
Dell Inspiron 5100 some years ago.  In that case, X didn't map the
video BIOS correctly, and so it wasn't able to read the information
from the BIOS.  The information includes things like the panel
geometry, which in my case was being reported as 65535x65535 pixels.
In your case we have:

>  # From Xorg.0.log
>  DisplaySize  286 214

That's clearly wrong too.  See
http://www.lemis.com/grog/diary-jul2003.html#25 for more details.
It's worth mentioning that the problem was fixed in a later version of
the system, and I can now install X on it with no problems.

If this looks familiar, a couple  of suggestions:

1: Try XFree86.  Maybe that will work better.
2: Get hold of the latest Knoppix CD and see if that works.  If it
   does, it might help fix the problem under FreeBSD.
3: Use the method I described in my diary to build a server with a
   static version of the video BIOS.

The real answer, of course, is to understand why the mapping doesn't
work (if, indeed, that's the problem).  But this could be a start.

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Re: Command to show processor type/speed?

[patrick]

Figured it out:

sysctl -w hw.model


On 4/30/07, patrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Is there a command to show the processor type and speed of the host
system? I'm working on a remote system, and I'd prefer to not have to
reboot it to find out.

Thanks,

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Command to show processor type/speed?

[patrick]

Is there a command to show the processor type and speed of the host
system? I'm working on a remote system, and I'd prefer to not have to
reboot it to find out.

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Re: music-generator for FreeBSD?

[Jona Joachim]

On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 08:47:51 -0700
Gary Kline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
>   Guys,
> 
>   This is a bit off-topic, but maybe somebody out there can
> give me someclues.  Bearing in mind that I know zip about music
>   composition, is there a MIDI (or mp3 or other) toolkit that
> would generate short background slices of music?  
> 
>   Say that I wanted some jazzy melody for several seconds.  This
>   application would generate it.  Or a classical tune.  Last
> night I found a possibly MIDI app for Windows; there were several that
>   Google found that  mentioned Linux but nothing panned out.
> 
>   Anybod know?

Take a look at Pure Data (audio/pd in the ports). I just found out
about it. It doesn't really create jazz melodies but it such a great
synthesizer. It allows you to arrange objects graphically, like
oscillators and analog/digital converters and combine them to create
sounds. It's a real graphical programming language.

Regards,
Jona

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Re: A good quiet power supply? (Mad Dog supply?)

[Bill-Schoolcraft]

At Mon, 30 Apr 2007 it looks like Howard Goldstein composed:


Bill-Schoolcraft wrote:
Just got a new PC at home, it's noisy and was wondering if anyone can share 
some experience here.  I just read about a "fanless" power-supply and then 
realized I needed some input.


If you have a circuit city nearby you might want to see if they have the mad 
dog supply on clearance.  It does have the large 120mm fan but to me it's 
inaudible, it was about $49 when they were still carrying it as an in-stock 
item.




Hmmm, just got back from buying one... Will swing by a CC to see
anyway for future reference.  I have about eight(8) boxes up at home
so one could use some quiet ;)

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Re: A good quiet power supply? (bought one...)

[Bill-Schoolcraft]

At Mon, 30 Apr 2007 it looks like Chuck Swiger composed:


Bill-Schoolcraft wrote:
Just got a new PC at home, it's noisy and was wondering if anyone can share 
some experience here.  I just read about a "fanless" power-supply and then 
realized I needed some input.


It's possible to run systems which don't use enough power to need fans, but 
you have to design the system accordingly using either underclocked 
components or low-power/laptop-oriented CPU and video.  Most desktop systems 
are going to run too hot without some form of active cooling.


Also, you probably should start by opening the case and seeing what is making 
all of the noise: it might be a CPU fan or even a chipset fan, and not the 
PSU fan, which is causing most of the racket.


For the PSU, good vendors include Antec, Foxconn, and Enermax...look for a 
unit which has a single "smart" (thermally controlled) 120mm fan, as the 
larger fan can run at a lower speed and still move enough air.





Thanks everyone for the help here, I've learned alot as a result.

After alot of reading reviews I took a drive at lunch and purchased
the following powersupply:

http://www.xoxide.com/seasonic-s12-430w-psu.html

I will of view the interior of the case again with the above
mentioned "clues" in mind and see what can be unplugged.  It's a
simple single disk box, serving nothing, just in the bedroom.

Thanks Family :)


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Re: music-generator for FreeBSD?

[Chad Perrin]

On Mon, Apr 30, 2007 at 01:41:44PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
> 
>   I changed my search terms on Gogle and found a bunch of likely
>   programs.  One is written is a special notation and has to do
>   with LOGO [??] programming.  The test MIDI "songs" are nice, 
>   and would serve IFF very short :-)  ---They get more than a bit
>   **annoying** after 20 sec :-|.

Tell us about what you found, please.  I, for one, am interested in
music production on FreeBSD, and something using a Logo-based notation
syntax sounds really interesting.

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Re: music-generator for FreeBSD?

[Garrett Cooper]

Gary Kline wrote:

Guys,

This is a bit off-topic, but maybe somebody out there can give me
someclues.  Bearing in mind that I know zip about music
composition, is there a MIDI (or mp3 or other) toolkit that would
	generate short background slices of music?  


Say that I wanted some jazzy melody for several seconds.  This
application would generate it.  Or a classical tune.  Last night
I found a possibly MIDI app for Windows; there were several that
Google found that  mentioned Linux but nothing panned out.

Anybod know?

gary


Check out audacity. It does MP3/WAV generation.
-Garrett
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Re: "BSDstats: Minor Update to Port ..."

[Lars Kristiansen]

Marc G. Fournier skrev:

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It has been brought to my attention that there is / was an inherent flaw in 
how/when bsdstats is run ... it makes the assumption that the server is 
actually *running* at 5am on the 1st of each month, instead of shutdown as 
numerous offices do ...


I've just made a slight change to the port so that it adds a bsdstats.sh script 
to /usr/local/etc/rc.d that can be enabled in /etc/rc.conf so that it runs on 
system reboot ...


The script that prompts you to enable will auto-enable boottime reporting if 
you enable monthly reporting as well ...


It adds half a minute or so to startup-time.

So I changed  the line:
run_rc_command "$1"
to:
run_rc_command "$1" &

To force it to background.
Is this correct action in rc-scripts?

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Re: music-generator for FreeBSD?

[Gary Kline]

On Mon, Apr 30, 2007 at 12:11:45PM -0700, Eric P. Scott wrote:
> See:
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algorithmic_composition
> 
> Look up "algorithmic music" in your favorite search engine.
> 


Will do.  thankee,

gary


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Re: music-generator for FreeBSD?

[Gary Kline]

On Mon, Apr 30, 2007 at 03:34:22PM -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote:
> > 

[[ ... ]]

> > 
> > I'm not sure of an app for linux that actually lets you create this stuff,
> > but as for editing/recording, look into Audacity ( http://audacity.sf.net ).
> > It's pretty nice when it comes to that stuff.
> 
> He is asking for something to run on FreeBSD not Lunix.


Actually, I have an older release of Ubuntu (a fork of Debian),
so either would do.  

I changed my search terms on Gogle and found a bunch of likely
programs.  One is written is a special notation and has to do
with LOGO [??] programming.  The test MIDI "songs" are nice, 
and would serve IFF very short :-)  ---They get more than a bit
**annoying** after 20 sec :-|.

Another possibility looks like it was written in Xlib (that I
taught myself and worked with for a year before moving to Xaw).
But it requires the olden Lesstif.

I was expert at porting for 15, 15+ years, but need help with
this.  "locate" doesn't find anything like the following
includes of libs.   Anybody give me a pointer??

(The ``phase'' binary does something musical.  --I took piano
lessons when I was a kid, but that does (ABS) no good now.

From the manual makefile::


# For Linux with LessTif
#INCS   = -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/LessTif/Motif1.2/include
#LIBS   = -L/usr/X11R6/lib -L/usr/X11R6/LessTif/Motif1.2/lib

all:phase

phase:  phase.c
gcc -O2 $(INCS) phase.c $(LIBS) -lXm -lXt -lX11 -o $@
@echo Compilation successful.


Thanks for any clues.  If nobody out can help, no problem.  
Probably a dumb idea anyway.

gary



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Re: How to find HorizSync / VertRefresh rates?

[Erik Osterholm]

On Mon, Apr 30, 2007 at 08:33:03PM +0200, Victor Engmark wrote:
> On 4/30/07, J65nko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Follow the FBSD handbook to do a  'Xorg -configure' and a test run of
> >X with the generated Xorg.conf file.
> 
> 
> I did.
> 
> Then have a look at your your '/var/log/Xorg.0.log'. You will find a
> >log of  X using DDC  to interrogate your LCD screen for it's
> >capabilities and the acceptable modelines
> 
> 
> Nope. Already tried that, and the capabilities were /not/ listed in the log,
> the way it was described in several tutorials.
> 
> This is starting to look like one of the most common problems in
> F/OSS: Theory != Practice. In theory, any one of the methods already tried
> and suggested here should work. In practice, the "documentation"
> (MonitorsDB) is wrong (at least according to x.org), and none of the quoted
> methods work the way they should. An interesting result is that there are
> several fundamentally different tutorials for several closely related
> *nixes, all of which work only on a small subset of installations.

Could you post your Xorg.0.log and xorg.conf?  When Theory !=
Practice, it's often helpful to have information like this to help
determine what went wrong, so that in the future, Theory can ==
Practice.
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Re: music-generator for FreeBSD?

[Jeremy Gransden]

On 4/30/07, Jerry McAllister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On Mon, Apr 30, 2007 at 02:57:49PM -0400, Schiz0 wrote:

> On 4/30/07, Gary Kline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >Guys,
> >
> >This is a bit off-topic, but maybe somebody out there can give
me
> >someclues.  Bearing in mind that I know zip about music
> >composition, is there a MIDI (or mp3 or other) toolkit that
would
> >generate short background slices of music?
> >
> >Say that I wanted some jazzy melody for several seconds.  This
> >application would generate it.  Or a classical tune.  Last
night
> >I found a possibly MIDI app for Windows; there were several
that
> >Google found that  mentioned Linux but nothing panned out.
> >
> >Anybod know?
> >
> >gary
> >
> >
> >--
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> I'm not sure of an app for linux that actually lets you create this
stuff,
> but as for editing/recording, look into Audacity (
http://audacity.sf.net ).
> It's pretty nice when it comes to that stuff.

He is asking for something to run on FreeBSD not Lunix.

jerry

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Audacity does run on freeBSD.

/usr/ports/audio/audacity.


thanks,
jeremy
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Re: music-generator for FreeBSD?

[Jeremy Gransden]

On 4/30/07, Jeremy Gransden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




 On 4/30/07, Jerry McAllister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Apr 30, 2007 at 02:57:49PM -0400, Schiz0 wrote:
>
> > On 4/30/07, Gary Kline < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >Guys,
> > >
> > >This is a bit off-topic, but maybe somebody out there can
> give me
> > >someclues.  Bearing in mind that I know zip about music
> > >composition, is there a MIDI (or mp3 or other) toolkit that
> would
> > >generate short background slices of music?
> > >
> > >Say that I wanted some jazzy melody for several
> seconds.  This
> > >application would generate it.  Or a classical tune.  Last
> night
> > >I found a possibly MIDI app for Windows; there were several
> that
> > >Google found that  mentioned Linux but nothing panned out.
> > >
> > >Anybod know?
> > >
> > >gary
> > >
> > >
> > >--
> > >  Gary Kline  [EMAIL PROTECTED]   www.thought.org  Public Service
> Unix
> > >
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> > I'm not sure of an app for linux that actually lets you create this
> stuff,
> > but as for editing/recording, look into Audacity (
> http://audacity.sf.net ).
> > It's pretty nice when it comes to that stuff.
>
> He is asking for something to run on FreeBSD not Lunix.
>
> jerry
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Audacity does run on freeBSD.

/usr/ports/audio/audacity.


thanks,
jeremy






This looks interesting, although, I have not tried it.

http://beast.gtk.org/

It reminds me of Cakewalk for Msoft.

thanks,
jeremy
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Re: music-generator for FreeBSD?

[Schiz0]

On 4/30/07, Jerry McAllister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On Mon, Apr 30, 2007 at 02:57:49PM -0400, Schiz0 wrote:

> On 4/30/07, Gary Kline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >Guys,
> >
> >This is a bit off-topic, but maybe somebody out there can give
me
> >someclues.  Bearing in mind that I know zip about music
> >composition, is there a MIDI (or mp3 or other) toolkit that
would
> >generate short background slices of music?
> >
> >Say that I wanted some jazzy melody for several seconds.  This
> >application would generate it.  Or a classical tune.  Last
night
> >I found a possibly MIDI app for Windows; there were several
that
> >Google found that  mentioned Linux but nothing panned out.
> >
> >Anybod know?
> >
> >gary
> >
> >
> >--
> >  Gary Kline  [EMAIL PROTECTED]   www.thought.org  Public Service Unix
> >
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>
> I'm not sure of an app for linux that actually lets you create this
stuff,
> but as for editing/recording, look into Audacity (
http://audacity.sf.net ).
> It's pretty nice when it comes to that stuff.

He is asking for something to run on FreeBSD not Lunix.

jerry

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Oh, yeah. I wasn't thinking. Old habits die hard; I got started on linux.
But I know Audacity is in fact in the ports tree, so it's still a valid
option.
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Re:Port dependency tool (if that's what you'd call it)

[Jimmie James]

I'm not quite sure how to put into word what I want, so bear with me. Is
there a tool in the base system which does something along these lines:



1. Look at the makefile of a given port as far as its RUN_DEPENDS and
BUILD_DEPENDS.
2. Subtracting what I have already installed, provide me with information
about what would be fetched (and possibly installed) in an easy-to-digest
format, recursively (for all dependents of dependents ... and so on).



If not part of the base system, is there a port which offers this
functionality?



Thank ye.
-Modulok-

Both,
make pretty-print-run-depends-list,
make pretty-print-build-depends-list
 can help you out.

I don't know of anything in base that does it, but what I've done is use 
this script (it's not perfect)


#!/bin/sh
#
# Much love Min1ster
#
for i in `make pretty-print-build-depends-list | awk -F\" '{print $2 }'`
do
hasit=`pkg_info -E $i`
if [ -z $hasit ]; then
echo "$i is not installed"
else
:
# (not needed)echo "Everythings there, dude"
fi
done

I have two of them, one with build and one with run deps (called.. 
checkbuild.sh and checkrun.sh)


Hope this helps some.

Jimmie

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Re: No SMB/Samba support on Windows Home Editions

[Marc Rocque]

This may be going too far off the Samba track but have you considered
using WebDAV?  All versions of MS connect to this and it's easier to
set-up security by sharing through SSL connection.  Apache can
authenticate against any NIS, database or even username password using
htpasswd.

Good Luck,
Marc

On 4/30/07, Steve Franks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 1) Windows "Home" editions (including XP and Vista)
> have support for SMB protocol disabled in Active
> Directory Domain Connections functionality!
> Is this true?
>
> ...

I've been doing this for a long time (just not with Vista), but what
was said is just as true for XP, so I assume nothing further is
disabled in vista.

There's been alot of replies over the weeked, but I don't think any
cuts to the heart of the matter.

* They are just telling you you can't have a "domain" or "active
directory", we actually ran one for a while, and the maintenence cost
to keep the thing happy was one of the factors that made me learn
fbsd.

* When someone said 'peer to peer', I think they were really talking
about a "workgroup" as opposed to a domain - it's not really peer to
peer, afaik, but the analogy works.

1) Just set your 'home' box to a random 'workgroup' in the network
setup - you are not going to use it anyway.

2) Get your smb box running.

3) Map a network drive in windows, and use the IP for the smb box.  I
have NEVER had a 'workgroup' function correctly.  Boxes all wired on
the same 100-T switch, and they still can't see eachother?  Amazing.
Just use the IP adress (i.e. \\192.168.1.xyz\mysmbshare) to map the
drive and you will never have a problem.  Oh, and as you are on a fbsd
box, I assume the capitalization of 'mysmbshare' must be correct,
although samba might 'fix' that for you.  I just followed the
instructions in the handbook and samba.org, and had things working in
an hour or two.

Steve
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Re: music-generator for FreeBSD?

[Jerry McAllister]

On Mon, Apr 30, 2007 at 02:57:49PM -0400, Schiz0 wrote:

> On 4/30/07, Gary Kline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >Guys,
> >
> >This is a bit off-topic, but maybe somebody out there can give me
> >someclues.  Bearing in mind that I know zip about music
> >composition, is there a MIDI (or mp3 or other) toolkit that would
> >generate short background slices of music?
> >
> >Say that I wanted some jazzy melody for several seconds.  This
> >application would generate it.  Or a classical tune.  Last night
> >I found a possibly MIDI app for Windows; there were several that
> >Google found that  mentioned Linux but nothing panned out.
> >
> >Anybod know?
> >
> >gary
> >
> >
> >--
> >  Gary Kline  [EMAIL PROTECTED]   www.thought.org  Public Service Unix
> >
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> 
> I'm not sure of an app for linux that actually lets you create this stuff,
> but as for editing/recording, look into Audacity ( http://audacity.sf.net ).
> It's pretty nice when it comes to that stuff.

He is asking for something to run on FreeBSD not Lunix.

jerry

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Re: music-generator for FreeBSD?

[Jeffrey Goldberg]

On Apr 30, 2007, at 10:47 AM, Gary Kline wrote:



Guys,

This is a bit off-topic, but maybe somebody out there can give me
someclues.  Bearing in mind that I know zip about music
composition, is there a MIDI (or mp3 or other) toolkit that would
generate short background slices of music?


There is almost certainly better options that what I will mention,  
but lilypond, which is primarily for music typesetting (engraving)  
can produce midi files from  your scores.  lilypond is in ports.



-j


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Re: Greylisting -- Was: Anti Spam

[Bart Silverstrim]

On Apr 30, 2007, at 6:19 AM, cpghost wrote:


On Mon, Apr 30, 2007 at 01:16:23AM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:

The system that would cause problems if it ran
greylisting is not MY system.  It's the mailserver owned by the  
cellular
company that I am sending to.   If they went and installed  
greylisting

it is highly unlikely I could get them to whitelist me.  (have you
ever, for example, tried to get a system off AOL's internal  
blacklist?)


Yes, that's indeed a problem; but how likely would that be?
Cellular operators know that their clients expect speedy
delivery of SMS, including those sent via SMTP. They know
better than to introduce greylisting latency at the gateway
when there's already normal latency at the SMSC.

Have you confirmed with your cellular operator that they
don't offer additional gateways; e.g. based on ICQ, HTTP
and whatnot? Most likely, they don't offer SMPP-over-TCP
connections to end-users ( http://www.smsforum.net/ ),
but probably to a couple of third-party providers that
you could use instead?


This won't work because you're suggesting he change the system he  
likes.  No matter what, greylisting to him is apparently impossible  
because users need their email as an instant messaging service.  The  
possibility of establishing a domain into a whitelist or testing a  
connection and notification system periodically, which would put his  
domain into their imaginary whitelist, is simply too inconvenient,  
unlike the deletion of spam that a greylist could have prevented  
coming into my inbox.  That apparently isn't inconvenient or annoying  
in the least.


I apparently hold the wrong view.  I think greylisting is still a  
pain in the butt for spammers.  It causes mail servers to have to  
take the time to retry email, something spammers don't like wasting  
time doing. If they're doing something to spoof connections then the  
mail would not even retry because it's going to an illegitimate or  
nonexistent mail server.  But none of this is possibly even a  
percentage of help for your mail server.  Apparently the extra layers  
to try slowing or easing the load on your server is a waste because  
it's *possible* to bypass it without resorting to math magic like the  
stats poisoning used against SpamAssassin now.


For me, I want to slow their servers and waste their resources, just  
like they waste my CPU and storage space.  I don't use email as an IM  
service nor do I use it as a critical availability service without  
investing lots and lots of money on redundancy, so I don't see the  
problem with companies using greylisting.

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Re: music-generator for FreeBSD?

[Eric P. Scott]

See:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algorithmic_composition

Look up "algorithmic music" in your favorite search engine.

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Re: Greylisting -- Was: Anti Spam

[Bart Silverstrim]

On Apr 30, 2007, at 4:36 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:



I don't understand why people are focusing on trying to redesign
the monitoring system I'm using.  Don't you have any imagination
at all?  The point was that there are legitimate situations where
the delays introduced by greylisting are a problem.  I used the
monitoring system as an example to make it easy to grasp the
point.  If it would help, I'll stop talking about it and use another
example.


Probably because if this is truly a mission-critical if it fails  
you're going to lose your business type system, there would be more  
redundancy than just relying on an email to your cell provider, because:
A) greylisting by it's nature will not block you or delay you if  
you're legit and are registered legit
B) what happens when your cell is out of range, off for some reason,  
fell in the toilet, broken, etc.
C) what guarantee do you have your cell phone will be always working  
100% of the time
D) what if your monitoring system fails because something blocks or  
breaks email, period


You're making it sound as if greylisting is a terrible idea because  
once your failure system won't notify you for some unspecified period  
of time.  I, and others most likely, are saying that it wouldn't take  
much for you to get it working just fine whether the cell carrier  
used it or not.  And even then, you haven't made a case that ISPs or  
businesses still couldn't use it...the inconvenience you point out  
still could be worked around simply by doing what I suggested before,  
registering legit by periodically sending a quick message, and if you  
get "charged" for a short short message like that, then you probably  
need a new cell plan if that is pushing you over your free time, or  
start having your employer compensate you for using your personal  
equipment for business use.



Sure, it's possible to modify the greylist to whitelist.


I thought most did.  That was part of the way they work.


That
implies that the sender knows greylisting is happening, knows
how to get the recipient to whitelist, it implies the recipient
is even willing to whitelist,  etc.


What greylist program are you using?  As I recall systems I've seen  
like Postgrey automatically track connections and after a certain  
number of connections will whitelist them, as they would be  
established as legitimate and, contrary to what your arguments make  
them out, greylisters aren't there just to slow down everyone's  
email.  Once established, they let the email right through.   You're  
making it sound like it's a huge undertaking to get this ability up  
and working.



Imagine a cell company that puts in greylisting being deluged by
30% of their million-plus userbase requesting to be whitelisted
for just the reason I cited.  Do you think it would be realistic
for the cell company to do this?


Realistically the userbase wouldn't really even know.

It's the SAME thing that would happen if your email server were  
screwed up.  Your mail server should retry within a sane period of  
time.  The vast majority of your imaginary userbase would probably  
become whitelisted before they were even aware anything happened.  If  
the majority of those users are using a popular mail service, it's  
not like 30,000 users are making 30,000 requests to their server.   
The majority of those users are probably using addresses from  
hotmail, gmail, etc...so if 10,000 were on hotmail, 15,000 were on  
gmail, and 5,000 were on aol, what are the odds that there's not  
already a load of traffic between those sites to the greylisting site?



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Re: music-generator for FreeBSD?

[Schiz0]

On 4/30/07, Gary Kline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Guys,

This is a bit off-topic, but maybe somebody out there can give me
someclues.  Bearing in mind that I know zip about music
composition, is there a MIDI (or mp3 or other) toolkit that would
generate short background slices of music?

Say that I wanted some jazzy melody for several seconds.  This
application would generate it.  Or a classical tune.  Last night
I found a possibly MIDI app for Windows; there were several that
Google found that  mentioned Linux but nothing panned out.

Anybod know?

gary


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I'm not sure of an app for linux that actually lets you create this stuff,
but as for editing/recording, look into Audacity ( http://audacity.sf.net ).
It's pretty nice when it comes to that stuff.
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Re: Desktop rebuild

[Derrick Ryalls]

On 4/27/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On 27/04/07, Derrick Ryalls <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a laptop that I am currently updating world to the latest from
> the v6 branch, once that is done I want to completely start fresh with
> the GUI.  Right now I have gnome in a mostly working state, a mostly
> out of date KDE and a bunch of other random crud I have installed over
> the last 16 months or so.  Instead of trying to use portupgrade and
> have it fail out/fix/restart, I was thinking life would be easier if I
> just removed anything graphical and start that from scratch.  This way
> all my settings/data remain intact and I can just do a pkg install the
> new stuff.
>
> Is anyone aware of a quick/safe way of blowing away nearly all
> installed apps as such to start from near scratch.  I do use bash and
> probably a couple other non-GUI installs, so I didn't necessarily want
> to kill _all_ installed ports/pkgs but I might be willing to do that
> if needed.
>
> Any thought on the best way to approach this?

The best method I have come up with is to first
gather a list of leaf packages with ports-mgmt/portmaster:
$ portmaster -l

and then (assuming you have ports-mgmt/portupgrade
installed):
$ pkg_deinstall -r 
or
$ pkg_delete -r 

ports-mgmt/pkg_cutleaves is a bit overly thorough
(and underly[1] conservative) for my tastes, but may
be more your style.

This shouldn't delete anything required by the stuff
you want to keep and should clean out most of the
kipple.  Multiple runs are suggested and deleting
root packages (as listed under portmaster -l) most
likely won't harm anything (though some of them
may be reinstalled when you upgrade).

pkg_deinstall has the advantage of being able to issue
$ pkg_deinstall -Rr kde*
, which will delete anything requiring kde and required by
kde (at least that is not required by some other package),
and the disadvantage of requiring that both perl and ruby
be installed.



I ended up just creating a new user with a /bin/sh shell, doing a
pkg_delete -a and reinstalling the apps.  I was very impressed with
how quickly pkg_add -r xorg and such (from the handbook) ran and got
me back to a working desktop.  Just need to selectively add any app I
really want reinstalled now.  Though I did run into an issue with
portupgrade and needed to delete its database, per the entry in
UPDATING.
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Re: How to find HorizSync / VertRefresh rates?

[Victor Engmark]

On 4/30/07, J65nko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On 4/30/07, Victor Engmark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm trying to create a pristine xorg.conf, but I've been unable to
> find proper values for HorizSync and VertRefresh for my Dell Latitude
> D610.
>
> I've tried the values presented in MonitorsDB
> <
http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo/src/hwdata/MonitorsDB?view=markup
>
> for "Dell 1400x1050 Laptop Display Panel", which are HorizSync
> 31.5-90.0 and VertRefresh 59.0-75.0, but I get a warning in
> /var/log/Xorg.0.log for both of them saying they are "not within DDC
> ranges."
[snip]

> (WW) I810(0): config file hsync range 60-66.3158kHz not within DDC hsync
ranges.

[snip]
>
> It seems that a DDC (or, apparently, DDS) query should be able to
> determine these numbers, but

[snip]

I don't understand why people still configure X the old ancient way.

Follow the FBSD handbook to do a  'Xorg -configure' and a test run of
X with the generated Xorg.conf file.



I did.

Then have a look at your your '/var/log/Xorg.0.log'. You will find a

log of  X using DDC  to interrogate your LCD screen for it's
capabilities and the acceptable modelines



Nope. Already tried that, and the capabilities were /not/ listed in the log,
the way it was described in several tutorials.

This is starting to look like one of the most common problems in
F/OSS: Theory != Practice. In theory, any one of the methods already tried
and suggested here should work. In practice, the "documentation"
(MonitorsDB) is wrong (at least according to x.org), and none of the quoted
methods work the way they should. An interesting result is that there are
several fundamentally different tutorials for several closely related
*nixes, all of which work only on a small subset of installations.

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profound
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Re: X/gnome through ssh, clashes with local gnome?

[Warren Head]

2007/4/30, Warren Head <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:




2007/4/30, WarrenHead <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Hi list,
>
> I want to connect X from my Ubuntu machine to my local FreeBSD machine,
> through ssh.
> Sofar ssh and X are working, but Gnome/GDM/Metacity seem to have issues.
> I really wonder whether this has something to do with the fact that on
> Ubuntu I also have Gnome running.
>
> Anyway, when I log into FreeBSD and start gnome-session, this is what I
> get on the console:
>
> SESSION_MANAGER=local/celeron2.lan:/tmp/.ICE-unix/34272
> Window manager warning: Screen 0 on display "localhost: 10.0" already
> has
> a window manager; try using the --replace option to replace the current
> window manager.
> Window manager warning: Screen 0 on display "localhost:10.0" already has
> a window manager; try using the --replace option to replace the current
> window manager.
>
> ** (gnome-panel:34290): WARNING **: Failed to authenticate with GDM
> ^C
>
> What I see happening is an error window coming up on screen, saying that
> the Gnome-Settings daemon failed.
>
> There was an error starting the GNOME Settings Daemon.
>
> Some things, such as themes, sounds, or background settings may not work
> correctly.
>
> The last error message was:
>
> Process /usr/local/libexec/gnome-settings-daemon exited with status 1
>
> GNOME will still try to restart the Settings Daemon next time you log
> in.
>
> After that the standard gnome loading panel comes up in front of
> me(sometimes), loading 'The Panel' and such, after which I see my top
> Ubuntu gnome menubar change into the FreeBSD gnome menubar.
> When I click on items in the top menubar I do see the FreeBSD
> menuoptions and I can start programs, but I still see my Ubuntu
> background, bottom menubar and Ubuntu programs running.
>
> In other words, both gnome's seem to be working at the same time, but
> not very well together.
>
> It's the first time I am working with remote X through SSH. RDP and VNC
> are the things I am more used to. So I am sorry if I am making stupid
> n00b mistakes, but yes, I am sure I am missing something totally
> obvious.
> I do read (with Google) that there is confusion about XDMCP versus X
> through SSH. I definitely want only the latter and have not enabled
> XDMCP. (consciously)
>
> So, what strikes me as very odd:
> GDM is allowing tcp connections and I get gnome on screen, but the error
> message says that I could not be authenticated. UID problem? Username
> and password are the same.
>
>
> Cheers, Warren
>

Hi list,

I noticed that only these output lines are related to connecting from my
ubuntu machine;
Window manager warning: Screen 0 on display "localhost: 10.0" already has
a window manager; try using the --replace option to replace the current
window manager.
Window manager warning: Screen 0 on display "localhost:10.0" already has
a window manager; try using the --replace option to replace the current
window manager.

I just used a windows machine with Xming and that worked fine, except for
the GDM message about not being authenticated.

So, does this give anybody a clue as to what is malconfigured?

Cheers, Warren



2 points:

1)
Mmm, on Windows it all works very very slow, although both 'top' on FreeBSD
(as the ssh server and X client) and processexplorer on windows (ssh client
and X server) do not report a lot of processor activity. Then why is it all
sooo slow? Does anybody have any performance experience with Xming?

2)
It seems xdm is still working from time to time. It shows up in top whenever
I move the mouse around or click something in Gnome. I guess I found a good
clue as to why GDM can not authenticate me as a user. XDM seems to have
taken that liberty.
I don't know how to tell it to stop doing that, besides what I already did
with this line in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/xdm-config

! SECURITY: do not listen for XDMCP or Chooser requests
! Comment out this line if you want to manage X terminals with xdm
DisplayManager.requestPort: 0

I guess there is more to it?

Cheers, Warren
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Re: How to find HorizSync / VertRefresh rates?

[J65nko]

On 4/30/07, Victor Engmark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi all,

I'm trying to create a pristine xorg.conf, but I've been unable to
find proper values for HorizSync and VertRefresh for my Dell Latitude
D610.

I've tried the values presented in MonitorsDB

for "Dell 1400x1050 Laptop Display Panel", which are HorizSync
31.5-90.0 and VertRefresh 59.0-75.0, but I get a warning in
/var/log/Xorg.0.log for both of them saying they are "not within DDC
ranges."

[snip]


(WW) I810(0): config file hsync range 60-66.3158kHz not within DDC hsync ranges.


[snip]


It seems that a DDC (or, apparently, DDS) query should be able to
determine these numbers, but


[snip]

I don't understand why people still configure X the old ancient way.

Follow the FBSD handbook to do a  'Xorg -configure' and a test run of
X with the generated Xorg.conf file.

Then have a look at your your '/var/log/Xorg.0.log'. You will find a
log of  X using DDC  to interrogate your LCD screen for it's
capabilities and the acceptable modelines

A snippet of my Xorg.0.log file
--
(II) Loading sub module "ddc"
(II) LoadModule: "ddc"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libddc.so
(II) Module ddc: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
   compiled for 6.9.0, module version = 1.0.0
   ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.8
(II) NV(0): I2C bus "DDC" initialized.
(II) NV(0): Probing for EDID on I2C bus A...
(II) NV(0): I2C device "DDC:ddc2" registered at address 0xA0.
(II) NV(0): I2C device "DDC:ddc2" removed.
(--) NV(0): DDC detected a CRT:
(II) NV(0): Manufacturer: AOC  Model: a770  Serial#: 30015
(II) NV(0): Year: 1998  Week: 15
(II) NV(0): EDID Version: 1.0
(II) NV(0): Analog Display Input,  Input Voltage Level: 0.714/0.286 V
(II) NV(0): Sync:  Separate
(II) NV(0): Max H-Image Size [cm]: horiz.: 32  vert.: 24
(II) NV(0): Gamma: 1.50
(II) NV(0): DPMS capabilities: StandBy Suspend Off; RGB/Color Display
(II) NV(0): redX: 0.622 redY: 0.340   greenX: 0.282 greenY: 0.600
(II) NV(0): blueX: 0.147 blueY: 0.062   whiteX: 0.278 whiteY: 0.311
(II) NV(0): Supported VESA Video Modes:
(II) NV(0): [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(II) NV(0): [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(II) NV(0): [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(II) NV(0): [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(II) NV(0): [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(II) NV(0): Manufacturer's mask: 0
(II) NV(0): Supported Future Video Modes:
(II) NV(0): #0: hsize: 640  vsize 480  refresh: 85  vid: 22833
(II) NV(0): #1: hsize: 800  vsize 600  refresh: 85  vid: 22853
(II) NV(0): #2: hsize: 1024  vsize 768  refresh: 85  vid: 22881

[snip]

(==) NV(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0)
(II) NV(0): Monitor0: Using default hsync range of 43.27-69.85 kHz
(II) NV(0): Monitor0: Using default vrefresh range of 60.02-85.01 Hz
(II) NV(0): Clock range:  12.00 to 350.00 MHz
[snip](**) NV(0): *Default mode "1024x768": 94.5 MHz, 68.7 kHz, 85.0 Hz
(II) NV(0): Modeline "1024x768"   94.50  1024 1072 1168 1376  768 769
772 808 +hsync +vsync
(**) NV(0): *Default mode "800x600": 56.3 MHz, 53.7 kHz, 85.1 Hz
(II) NV(0): Modeline "800x600"   56.30  800 832 896 1048  600 601 604
631 +hsync +vsync
(**) NV(0):  Default mode "1024x768": 78.8 MHz, 60.1 kHz, 75.1 Hz
(II) NV(0): Modeline "1024x768"   78.80  1024 1040 1136 1312  768 769
772 800 +hsync +vsync
(**) NV(0):  Default mode "1024x768": 75.0 MHz, 56.5 kHz, 70.1 Hz
(II) NV(0): Modeline "1024x768"   75.00  1024 1048 1184 1328  768 771
777 806 -hsync -vsync
(**) NV(0):  Default mode "1024x768": 65.0 MHz, 48.4 kHz, 60.0 Hz
(II) NV(0): Modeline "1024x768"   65.00  1024 1048 1184 1344  768 771
777 806 -hsync -vsync
(**) NV(0):  Default mode "832x624": 57.3 MHz, 49.7 kHz, 74.6 Hz

[remainder snipped]
-
In your Xorg conf just put in the resolution you want and X will
usually figure out which sync rates to use. Or copy the modelines you
find in your Xorg.0.log file.
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IBM T23 laptop and USB

[Wojciech Puchar]

why ehci isn't detected on IBM T23 laptop

possibly

pci2:  at device 2.0 (no driver attached)

is the undetected ehci

i have compiled ehci in kernel

thank you

uhci0:  port 0x1800-0x181f irq 
11 at device 29.0 on pci0

uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
usb0:  on uhci0
usb0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci1:  port 0x1820-0x183f irq 
11 at device 29.1 on pci0

uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED]
usb1:  on uhci1
usb1: USB revision 1.0
uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci2:  port 0x1840-0x185f irq 
11 at device 29.2 on pci0

uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED]
usb2:  on uhci2
usb2: USB revision 1.0
uhub2: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
pci2:  at device 2.0 (no driver attached)
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Re: X/gnome through ssh, clashes with local gnome?

[Warren Head]

2007/4/30, WarrenHead <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


Hi list,

I want to connect X from my Ubuntu machine to my local FreeBSD machine,
through ssh.
Sofar ssh and X are working, but Gnome/GDM/Metacity seem to have issues.
I really wonder whether this has something to do with the fact that on
Ubuntu I also have Gnome running.

Anyway, when I log into FreeBSD and start gnome-session, this is what I
get on the console:

SESSION_MANAGER=local/celeron2.lan:/tmp/.ICE-unix/34272
Window manager warning: Screen 0 on display "localhost:10.0" already has
a window manager; try using the --replace option to replace the current
window manager.
Window manager warning: Screen 0 on display "localhost:10.0" already has
a window manager; try using the --replace option to replace the current
window manager.

** (gnome-panel:34290): WARNING **: Failed to authenticate with GDM
^C

What I see happening is an error window coming up on screen, saying that
the Gnome-Settings daemon failed.

There was an error starting the GNOME Settings Daemon.

Some things, such as themes, sounds, or background settings may not work
correctly.

The last error message was:

Process /usr/local/libexec/gnome-settings-daemon exited with status 1

GNOME will still try to restart the Settings Daemon next time you log in.

After that the standard gnome loading panel comes up in front of
me(sometimes), loading 'The Panel' and such, after which I see my top
Ubuntu gnome menubar change into the FreeBSD gnome menubar.
When I click on items in the top menubar I do see the FreeBSD
menuoptions and I can start programs, but I still see my Ubuntu
background, bottom menubar and Ubuntu programs running.

In other words, both gnome's seem to be working at the same time, but
not very well together.

It's the first time I am working with remote X through SSH. RDP and VNC
are the things I am more used to. So I am sorry if I am making stupid
n00b mistakes, but yes, I am sure I am missing something totally obvious.
I do read (with Google) that there is confusion about XDMCP versus X
through SSH. I definitely want only the latter and have not enabled
XDMCP. (consciously)

So, what strikes me as very odd:
GDM is allowing tcp connections and I get gnome on screen, but the error
message says that I could not be authenticated. UID problem? Username
and password are the same.


Cheers, Warren



Hi list,

I noticed that only these output lines are related to connecting from my
ubuntu machine;
Window manager warning: Screen 0 on display "localhost:10.0" already has
a window manager; try using the --replace option to replace the current
window manager.
Window manager warning: Screen 0 on display "localhost:10.0" already has
a window manager; try using the --replace option to replace the current
window manager.

I just used a windows machine with Xming and that worked fine, except for
the GDM message about not being authenticated.

So, does this give anybody a clue as to what is malconfigured?

Cheers, Warren
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Re: How to find HorizSync / VertRefresh rates?

[Victor Engmark]

On 4/30/07, Tom Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On Mon, 2007-04-30 at 11:02 +0200, Victor Engmark wrote:
> I'm trying to create a pristine xorg.conf, but I've been unable to
> find proper values for HorizSync and VertRefresh for my Dell Latitude
> D610.

Don't bother trying. If it works when you leave them unspecified, don't
think any more about it.



I'd rather not have to replace my laptop after a few weeks...

If it still doesn't work however, the easiest way is to construct a

valid modeline specific to your monitor. Xorg can actually tell you what
to put into your xorg.conf, see section 5.4.3.2 of the FreeBSD Handbook
[1]



It "works", but the issue is rather having the /correct/ configuration in
order to utilize the hardware as well as possible without frying it.

I've tried the method proposed, but I don't find the information mentioned.

--
Victor Engmark
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur - What is said in Latin, sounds
profound
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Re: Greylisting -- Was: Anti Spam

[John Levine]

>Cellular operators know that their clients expect speedy
>delivery of SMS, including those sent via SMTP.

Actually, in my experience SMTP to SMS gateways can have significant
delays unrelated to greylisting.  Travel agencies like Orbitz send out
notices about flight changes and delays via SMTP->SMS and as often as
not I only get the notice when I turn my phone back on after the
delayed flight has landed.

>Have you confirmed with your cellular operator that they don't offer
>additional gateways; e.g. based on ICQ, HTTP and whatnot?

There are third party services that do this.  For example,
clickatell.com offers a HTTP POST to SMS gateway quite cheaply, about
10 cents a message at low volumes.

Having been dealing with spam for over a decade, I cannot tell you how
tired I am of people whining that the world better not implement some
effective anti-abuse technique because it would cause them a minor
inconvenience due to their particular uncommon setup.  Spam sucks.
Deal with it.

R's,
John

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Re: How to find HorizSync / VertRefresh rates?

[Tom Evans]

On Mon, 2007-04-30 at 11:02 +0200, Victor Engmark wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm trying to create a pristine xorg.conf, but I've been unable to
> find proper values for HorizSync and VertRefresh for my Dell Latitude
> D610.

Don't bother trying. If it works when you leave them unspecified, don't
think any more about it.

If it still doesn't work however, the easiest way is to construct a
valid modeline specific to your monitor. Xorg can actually tell you what
to put into your xorg.conf, see section 5.4.3.2 of the FreeBSD Handbook
[1]

The quickest way to get these values out is to grep your Xorg log (even
from a failed run of Xorg). Eg (quoting from the Handbook) :

$ grep -A 4 'Supported additional Video Mode' /var/log/Xorg.0.log
(II) I810(0): Supported additional Video Mode:
(II) I810(0): clock: 108.0 MHz   Image Size:  340 x 270 mm
(II) I810(0): h_active: 1280  h_sync: 1328  h_sync_end 1440 h_blank_end
1688 h_border: 0
(II) I810(0): v_active: 1024  v_sync: 1025  v_sync_end 1028 v_blanking:
1066 v_border: 0
(II) I810(0): Serial No: ETL5108015

This information is called EDID information. Creating a ModeLine from
this is just a matter of putting the numbers in the correct order:

ModeLine   <4 horiz. timings> <4 vert. timings>

Heres one I made earlier (unfortunately, not the one from the log, that
one works 'out-of-the-box')

ModeLine "1680x1050" 146.0 1680 1784 1960 2240 1050 1053 1059 1089

Cheers

Tom

[1]
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html


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Re: Is FreeBSD simple enough for Novices, Will FreeBSD accept Office 98 + Publisher?

[Kevin Kinsey]

Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:


When I wrote my book Addison Wesley used Quark internally, but required
me to submit my manuscript -on paper-.  They then retyped it, sent me
the proofs (which had enormous numbers of typos in them) I corrected and
sent back.

I asked them if I gave them the manuscript in Quark source files if they
would take that, (because I had access to a pirated copy of Quark and
figured I would import what I had written my book in) and they would 
not.  They required a paper manuscript.


Thus, use whatever you want to write your book - if your going to get it
published most likely your publisher will not be using what your using.


:-D 


--- a good insight.  "Team written" books with some of today's publishers
are even worse --- some friends of mine had a tome published with plenty
of errors, including Microsoft Word "auto-corrections" inside their code
blocks (I will grant that the publisher wasn't quite Addison-Wesley in
stature).

It's pretty easy to understand why many people choose to publish their
work privately these days.

Kevin Kinsey
--
Credit ... is the only enduring testimonial to man's confidence in man.
-- James Blish
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Re: How to find HorizSync / VertRefresh rates?

[Victor Engmark]

On 4/30/07, John Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Victor Engmark wrote:
>I'm trying to create a pristine xorg.conf, but I've been unable to
>find proper values for HorizSync and VertRefresh for my Dell Latitude
>D610.
>
>I've tried the values presented in MonitorsDB
><
http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo/src/hwdata/MonitorsDB?view=markup
>
>for "Dell 1400x1050 Laptop Display Panel", which are HorizSync
>31.5-90.0 and VertRefresh 59.0-75.0, but I get a warning in
>/var/log/Xorg.0.log for both of them saying they are "not within DDC
>ranges."
>
>I've tried looking around the Dell web pages, but I haven't found any
>pages mentioning these parameters (not too surprising, really).
>
>I've tried to leave these settings out, but even then I get a warning:
>(WW) I810(0): config file hsync range 60-66.3158kHz not within DDC hsync
ranges.
>
>I'm wondering if this has anything to do with the other warnings I get
>during startup:
>(WW) I810(0): Bad V_BIOS checksum
>and
>(WW) I810(0): Extended BIOS function 0x5f05 failed.
>
>It seems that a DDC (or, apparently, DDS) query should be able to
>determine these numbers, but
>cd /usr/ports && make search name=ddc && make search name=dds
>doesn't give any tools to deal with this.
>
>The relevant part of /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
>
>Section "Monitor"
>  Identifier   "Dell Latitude D610 monitor"
>  VendorName   "SEC"
>  ModelName"3450"
>  # From Xorg.0.log
>  DisplaySize  286 214
>  Option   "DPMS"
>EndSection

Not sure if this will help, but there's some good information from a
Linux Dell D610 user who seems to have a good xorg.conf which should
be roughly the same for FreeBSD:

http://www.kcore.org/?menumain=4&menusub=2



The xorg.conf there doesn't define HorizSync or VertRefresh.

He mentions a video BIOS patch called '915resolution'. There's a

FreeBSD version at:
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/url.cgi?ports/sysutils/915resolution/pkg-descr

More information on "the hack" here: http://www.geocities.com/stomljen/



I'm already using this. It's listed at the end of my email. In case my
message was unclear, I've already managed to get the native resolution. I'm
only looking for the proper HorizSync / VertRefresh rates, to avoid frying
my graphics card or screen, and to get the maximum out of my hardware at the
same time. I've already tried rates from several articles, but all of them
result in warnings that the rates are outside the DDC spec, and none of them
document where the numbers are from. The only reference I've found so far,
MonitorsDB, is wrong, and Dell doesn't list the information I need.

--
Victor Engmark
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur - What is said in Latin, sounds
profound
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Re: "BSDstats: Minor Update to Port ..."

[Marc G. Fournier]

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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Marc G. Fournier wrote:
>
>
>> I've just made a slight change to the port so that it adds a bsdstats.sh
>> script  to /usr/local/etc/rc.d that can be enabled in /etc/rc.conf so that
>> it runs on  system reboot ...
>
> So, do I understand it right that there is no harm in running the script
> several times a month (i.e. it doesn't increase the stats every time it's
> run)? So far I've been running the script manually at the beginning of each
> month on my home PC and been a bit nervous that I maybe spoil the stats
> accidentally...

The only 'risks' are those running it on a LiveCD, since it can't save the key 
values ... but, on a desktop / server / laptop, it saves a file in 
/var/db/bsdstats that contains two values unique to your machine that are used 
in reporting, so that if you submit once a day, it will only show up as one 
entry ...

The big change with my recent commit is that that whole 'first of month' 
doesn't really apply anymore, but, based on talking to several ppl, we suspect 
that we've been losing a fair number of reporters that have installed it, but 
their machines aren't actually turned on at 5am on the 1st of each month :(



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IBM T23 laptop and APCI

[Wojciech Puchar]

i've installed FreeBSD 6.2 on this laptop and got in dmesg as below.

what that's all ACPI bugs? are them harmful?

Copyright (c) 1992-2007 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation.
FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE #5: Sat Apr 28 17:21:42 CEST 2007
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/alfred
Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
CPU: Mobile Intel(R) Pentium(R) III CPU - M  1000MHz (999.15-MHz 686-class CPU)
  Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x6b4  Stepping = 4
  
Features=0x383f9ff
real memory  = 536215552 (511 MB)
avail memory = 514936832 (491 MB)
acpi0:  on motherboard
acpi_ec_ecdt_probe: can't get handle
ACPI-0356: *** Error: Region EmbeddedControl(3) has no handler
ACPI-1304: *** Error: Method execution failed [\\_SB_.PCI0.LPC_.EC__._INI] 
(Node 0xc3360420), AE_NOT_EXIST
ACPI-0356: *** Error: Region EmbeddedControl(3) has no handler
ACPI-1304: *** Error: Method execution failed 
[\\_SB_.PCI0.LPC_.EC__.BAT0._STA] (Node 0xc3362c00), AE_NOT_EXIST
ACPI-0239: *** Error: Method execution failed 
[\\_SB_.PCI0.LPC_.EC__.BAT0._STA] (Node 0xc3362c00), AE_NOT_EXIST
ACPI-0356: *** Error: Region EmbeddedControl(3) has no handler
ACPI-1304: *** Error: Method execution failed 
[\\_SB_.PCI0.LPC_.EC__.BAT1._STA] (Node 0xc3362a80), AE_NOT_EXIST
ACPI-0239: *** Error: Method execution failed 
[\\_SB_.PCI0.LPC_.EC__.BAT1._STA] (Node 0xc3362a80), AE_NOT_EXIST
acpi0: Power Button (fixed)
ACPI-0356: *** Error: Region EmbeddedControl(3) has no handler
ACPI-1304: *** Error: Method execution failed 
[\\_SB_.PCI0.LPC_.EC__.BAT0._STA] (Node 0xc3362c00), AE_NOT_EXIST
ACPI-0239: *** Error: Method execution failed 
[\\_SB_.PCI0.LPC_.EC__.BAT0._STA] (Node 0xc3362c00), AE_NOT_EXIST
ACPI-0356: *** Error: Region EmbeddedControl(3) has no handler
ACPI-1304: *** Error: Method execution failed 
[\\_SB_.PCI0.LPC_.EC__.BAT0._STA] (Node 0xc3362c00), AE_NOT_EXIST
ACPI-0239: *** Error: Method execution failed 
[\\_SB_.PCI0.LPC_.EC__.BAT0._STA] (Node 0xc3362c00), AE_NOT_EXIST
ACPI-0356: *** Error: Region EmbeddedControl(3) has no handler
ACPI-1304: *** Error: Method execution failed 
[\\_SB_.PCI0.LPC_.EC__.BAT0._STA] (Node 0xc3362c00), AE_NOT_EXIST
ACPI-0239: *** Error: Method execution failed 
[\\_SB_.PCI0.LPC_.EC__.BAT0._STA] (Node 0xc3362c00), AE_NOT_EXIST
ACPI-0356: *** Error: Region EmbeddedControl(3) has no handler
ACPI-1304: *** Error: Method execution failed 
[\\_SB_.PCI0.LPC_.EC__.BAT0._STA] (Node 0xc3362c00), AE_NOT_EXIST
ACPI-0239: *** Error: Method execution failed 
[\\_SB_.PCI0.LPC_.EC__.BAT0._STA] (Node 0xc3362c00), AE_NOT_EXIST
ACPI-0356: *** Error: Region EmbeddedControl(3) has no handler
ACPI-1304: *** Error: Method execution failed 
[\\_SB_.PCI0.LPC_.EC__.BAT0._STA] (Node 0xc3362c00), AE_NOT_EXIST
ACPI-0239: *** Error: Method execution failed 
[\\_SB_.PCI0.LPC_.EC__.BAT0._STA] (Node 0xc3362c00), AE_NOT_EXIST
ACPI-0356: *** Error: Region EmbeddedControl(3) has no handler
ACPI-1304: *** Error: Method execution failed 
[\\_SB_.PCI0.LPC_.EC__.BAT1._STA] (Node 0xc3362a80), AE_NOT_EXIST
ACPI-0239: *** Error: Method execution failed 
[\\_SB_.PCI0.LPC_.EC__.BAT1._STA] (Node 0xc3362a80), AE_NOT_EXIST
ACPI-0356: *** Error: Region EmbeddedControl(3) has no handler
ACPI-1304: *** Error: Method execution failed 
[\\_SB_.PCI0.LPC_.EC__.BAT1._STA] (Node 0xc3362a80), AE_NOT_EXIST
ACPI-0239: *** Error: Method execution failed 
[\\_SB_.PCI0.LPC_.EC__.BAT1._STA] (Node 0xc3362a80), AE_NOT_EXIST
ACPI-0356: *** Error: Region EmbeddedControl(3) has no handler
ACPI-1304: *** Error: Method execution failed 
[\\_SB_.PCI0.LPC_.EC__.BAT1._STA] (Node 0xc3362a80), AE_NOT_EXIST
ACPI-0239: *** Error: Method execution failed 
[\\_SB_.PCI0.LPC_.EC__.BAT1._STA] (Node 0xc3362a80), AE_NOT_EXIST
ACPI-0356: *** Error: Region EmbeddedControl(3) has no handler
ACPI-1304: *** Error: Method execution failed 
[\\_SB_.PCI0.LPC_.EC__.BAT1._STA] (Node 0xc3362a80), AE_NOT_EXIST
ACPI-0239: *** Error: Method execution failed 
[\\_SB_.PCI0.LPC_.EC__.BAT1._STA] (Node 0xc3362a80), AE_NOT_EXIST
ACPI-0356: *** Error: Region EmbeddedControl(3) has no handler
ACPI-1304: *** Error: Method execution failed 
[\\_SB_.PCI0.LPC_.EC__.BAT1._STA] (Node 0xc3362a80), AE_NOT_EXIST
ACPI-0239: *** Error: Method execution failed 
[\\_SB_.PCI0.LPC_.EC__.BAT1._STA] (Node 0xc3362a80), AE_NOT_EXIST
ACPI-0356: *** Error: Region EmbeddedControl(3) has no handler
ACPI-1304: *** Error: Method execution failed 
[\\_SB_.PCI0.LPC_.EC__.BAT0._STA] (Node 0xc3362c00), AE_NOT_EXIST
ACPI-0239: *** Error: Method execution failed 
[\\_SB_.PCI0.LPC_.EC__.BAT0._STA] (Node 0xc3362c00), AE_NOT_EXIST
ACPI-0356: *** Error: Region EmbeddedControl(3) has no handler

Re: How to find HorizSync / VertRefresh rates?

[John Murphy]

Victor Engmark wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>I'm trying to create a pristine xorg.conf, but I've been unable to
>find proper values for HorizSync and VertRefresh for my Dell Latitude
>D610.
>
>I've tried the values presented in MonitorsDB
>
>for "Dell 1400x1050 Laptop Display Panel", which are HorizSync
>31.5-90.0 and VertRefresh 59.0-75.0, but I get a warning in
>/var/log/Xorg.0.log for both of them saying they are "not within DDC
>ranges."
>
>I've tried looking around the Dell web pages, but I haven't found any
>pages mentioning these parameters (not too surprising, really).
>
>I've tried to leave these settings out, but even then I get a warning:
>(WW) I810(0): config file hsync range 60-66.3158kHz not within DDC hsync 
>ranges.
>
>I'm wondering if this has anything to do with the other warnings I get
>during startup:
>(WW) I810(0): Bad V_BIOS checksum
>and
>(WW) I810(0): Extended BIOS function 0x5f05 failed.
>
>It seems that a DDC (or, apparently, DDS) query should be able to
>determine these numbers, but
>cd /usr/ports && make search name=ddc && make search name=dds
>doesn't give any tools to deal with this.
>
>The relevant part of /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
>
>Section "Monitor"
>  Identifier   "Dell Latitude D610 monitor"
>  VendorName   "SEC"
>  ModelName"3450"
>  # From Xorg.0.log
>  DisplaySize  286 214
>  Option   "DPMS"
>EndSection

Hi Victor,

Not sure if this will help, but there's some good information from a
Linux Dell D610 user who seems to have a good xorg.conf which should
be roughly the same for FreeBSD:

http://www.kcore.org/?menumain=4&menusub=2

He mentions a video BIOS patch called '915resolution'. There's a
FreeBSD version at:
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/url.cgi?ports/sysutils/915resolution/pkg-descr

More information on "the hack" here: http://www.geocities.com/stomljen/

-- 
HTH. John.
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Re: Greylisting -- Was: Anti Spam

[Bart Silverstrim]

Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:

Ted, usually I find your posts intelligent and food for thought, but  
I almost think you're doing this on purpose now.




No, the problem is you haven't understood the point I was making.


Here's the summary as I understand it.
You're against greylisting because:
a) it's easy to circumvent
b) you use it, but the effectiveness has been wearing off
c) greylisting could mean that you would not be notified if your servers 
went down and cell companies started using greylisting, or you would be 
notified with a huge delay


Is this accurate?

When you're setting it up, you would set up manually to have your own  
system whitelisted.


The system that would cause problems if it ran
greylisting is not MY system.  It's the mailserver owned by the cellular
company that I am sending to.   If they went and installed greylisting
it is highly unlikely I could get them to whitelist me.  (have you
ever, for example, tried to get a system off AOL's internal blacklist?)


It is a huge pain, and while the administrative BS is a pain in the butt 
to cut through, the difference between blacklisting and greylisting is 
that greylisting isn't a block.  It's a pause. And automatic pause. 
Blacklisting can impede you with little recourse for an indefinite 
period of time, but greylisting just tells your server to try again 
later.  This is exactly what would happen if you were having actual mail 
server problems.


I was mistaken previously in thinking you were referring to your own 
server running the greylist.  But I still stand by the assertion that 
it's not so big a problem when someone else is running it...send a 
couple messages periodically and it should allow your domain into their 
mail servers without delay.



Well for starters I have to know that the cell carrier is in fact
greylisting.  You can't put a workaround in for something you don't know.


Doesn't this help kind of prove my point, if it's a measure you don't 
even know is there?


If you send a test message periodically and it becomes "delayed" in your 
queue, then suddenly goes through, I would speculate that they're 
greylisting.  Some systems may even issue a message to that effect when 
you connect.


If you keep sending periodic "keepalives", you should see them go 
through without getting stuck in the mail queue.



As far as I know they aren't greylisting right now - but if they start
up doing it in the future I doubt I'll be told in advance.  For all
I know they have a cluster of SMTP receivers and sending a page a
week might not get all of them updated.  And they might expire before
a week, or they might be expiring at a week then without warning change
it to 3 days.


If they're not all getting updated, there's a problem with their 
implementation.  That would be part of the point of using greylisting. 
Otherwise a message would hit system A, get greylisted, then risk coming 
in to system B the next time as a fresh connect and then delayed again 
until the sender either gives up or hits a system that did have the 
sender listed on the waiting list and allow the message to get through.



For another thing I get charged every time I receive a text message
on my phone.  But mainly, why should I have to do this?  I have a life,
and cellular pages and calls are intrusive and I have to drop what I'm
doing and pay attention to them.  


And yet you want the servers to page you when you have a problem. 
There's nothing I can really suggest here because it's an argument in 
what you can live with.  You are going to insist you want it done your 
way no matter what, to the point where you refuse to carry a second 
cellphone paid by the employer and you won't test the connection because 
apparently you have a sucky cell plan that doesn't give you X number of 
free text messages.  You even start saying you have a life and don't 
want to put up with the messages once a week because it's such a hassle 
but don't seem to mind putting up with one or two spam messages having 
to be manually deleted out of the inbox.   It's also ironic that you are 
on call 24/7 and can't get away from the electronic tether but say you 
have a life that can't be bothered.



If I send a page at night then I am
going to get woken up at night, if I send a page during the day it might
come in when I'm in the middle of a conversation with a customer, if I
send it in the evening then who knows I might be in the middle of boffing
my S.O.


If you scheduled it, you can schedule it for whenever it would probably 
be most convenient.  I can't believe you're so busy you can't spare your 
phone making a buzz or ding once or twice a week on a regular basis yet 
you have no problem with the randomness of phone calls and messages from 
other people or even your servers going down.  If this is such a 
stressor in your life, why are you carrying a cellphone in the first place?



Sure, there's Rube Goldberg ways around anything.  But the point of this
was to illustrate 

Re: "BSDstats: Minor Update to Port ..."

[Toomas Aas]

Marc G. Fournier wrote:


I've just made a slight change to the port so that it adds a bsdstats.sh script 
to /usr/local/etc/rc.d that can be enabled in /etc/rc.conf so that it runs on 
system reboot ...


So, do I understand it right that there is no harm in running the script 
several times a month (i.e. it doesn't increase the stats every time 
it's run)? So far I've been running the script manually at the beginning 
of each month on my home PC and been a bit nervous that I maybe spoil 
the stats accidentally...


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Toomas
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Re: nVidia port build failure in ldconfig

[John Murphy]

Garrett Cooper wrote:

>John Murphy wrote:
>> While trying to build /usr/ports/x11/nvidia-driver-9631 from a
>> freshly csup'd ports tree, it stopped with the following error:
>> 
>> ===>  Installing for linux-expat-1.95.8
>> ===>   linux-expat-1.95.8 depends on file: /compat/linux/etc/fedora-release 
>> - found
>> ===>   Generating temporary packing list
>> ===>  Checking if textproc/linux-expat already installed
>> cd /usr/ports/textproc/linux-expat/work && /usr/bin/find * -type d -exec 
>> /bin/mkdir -p "/compat/linux/{}" \;
>> cd /usr/ports/textproc/linux-expat/work && /usr/bin/find * ! -type d | 
>> /usr/bin/cpio -pm -R root:wheel /compat/linux
>> 299 blocks
>> ===>   Running ldconfig
>> /compat/linux/sbin/ldconfig -r /compat/linux
>> ELF binary type "3" not known.
>> /compat/linux/sbin/ldconfig: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected
>> *** Error code 2
>> 
>> Stop in /usr/ports/textproc/linux-expat.
>> *** Error code 1
>> 
>> Stop in /usr/ports/x11-fonts/linux-fontconfig.
>> *** Error code 1
>> 
>> Stop in /usr/ports/x11/linux-xorg-libs.
>> *** Error code 1
>> 
>> Stop in /usr/ports/x11/nvidia-driver-9631.
>> *** Error code 1
>> 
>> Stop in /usr/ports/x11/nvidia-driver-9631.
>> 
>> Should I simply csup and keep trying? Report a bug somewhere?
>> Or is there anything else I can do?
>> 
>> FreeBSD-6.2 Release. Generic kernel.
>> 
>> Please advise if a different list would be more appropriate.
>
>A shell script failed due to ldconfig not being able to figure out the 
>binary type in question (in this case Linux). What you should do is 
>contact the port maintainer about this.

Thanks for the reply Garret. I had not enabled Linux compatibility in
/etc/rc.conf. I feel rather silly now! Sorry for the noise.

-- 
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music-generator for FreeBSD?

[Gary Kline]

Guys,

This is a bit off-topic, but maybe somebody out there can give me
someclues.  Bearing in mind that I know zip about music
composition, is there a MIDI (or mp3 or other) toolkit that would
generate short background slices of music?  

Say that I wanted some jazzy melody for several seconds.  This
application would generate it.  Or a classical tune.  Last night
I found a possibly MIDI app for Windows; there were several that
Google found that  mentioned Linux but nothing panned out.

Anybod know?

gary


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Re: Greylisting -- Was: Anti Spam

[Bart Silverstrim]

Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:



-Original Message-
From: Bart Silverstrim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 5:05 PM
To: Ted Mittelstaedt
Cc: Christopher Hilton; User Questions
Subject: Re: Greylisting -- Was: Anti Spam


Both of those are assumptions your making that are just not true  
anymore.

Spammers are adapting to greylisting.  I've been running it for at
least 2 years now and every month more and more spam is making it
past the greylist and getting caught by spamassassin.  As I mentioned
previously, it does not take a lot of programming effort to do it.

Sure they're adapting. They're also adapting to Spamassassin.


That's a bit different.  It is trivial to adapt to greylisting.  It is
not trivial to adapt to spamassassin, particularly if they have the
learner turned on.


Yes, it takes more.  I would also say that when it's a game of them 
blasting out as much as possible to hammer 1 or 2 through for every 1000 
that doesn't, greylisting isn't something they all think about, 
especially if greylisting is contributing to a backup in their sending 
queue (or it is bouncing mail to nonexistent mail servers to retry 
later, and since they don't exist or didn't send it in the first place, 
the message *won't come back*).


My point is/was that no matter what you're trying, until there's solid 
authentication of senders in place any statistical or gee-whiz method of 
combating SPAM will be met by adaptation, so dismissing a method just 
because it's "simple" to bypass doesn't mean it isn't going to stop a 
few more of the messages.


The  
fact that it doesn't take a lot of programming effort isn't the  
reason,


Yes, it is actually.  Because for the simple reason that the small
amount of programming effort required makes it possible to countermand
greylisting AT ALL.


And also make the spammer advertise who is sending the mail and thus 
allow it to be tracked.



It isn't possible, I think, for a spammer to programmically get through
a SA setup with the learner turned on, that has a dictionary that
has been built up through both ham and spam submissions.  The main
reason spammers do get past that has more to do with the difficult of
getting normal users to properly feed the learner.  But the problem from
the spammers point of view is that in the Internet, 10 different SA sites
could have 10 different rules.  But 10 different greylist sites will all
act the same, so if your going to put effort into countering the filters,
you would be smarter to counter greylisting first.


It's still one more hurdle.  Tarpitting, greylisting, SPF, reversing MX 
records...all simple things to get around, yet add one more layer of 
headache for the spammer.  Why make it easier for them?



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Re: No SMB/Samba support on Windows Home Editions

[Steve Franks]

1) Windows "Home" editions (including XP and Vista)
have support for SMB protocol disabled in Active
Directory Domain Connections functionality!
Is this true?

...


I've been doing this for a long time (just not with Vista), but what
was said is just as true for XP, so I assume nothing further is
disabled in vista.

There's been alot of replies over the weeked, but I don't think any
cuts to the heart of the matter.

* They are just telling you you can't have a "domain" or "active
directory", we actually ran one for a while, and the maintenence cost
to keep the thing happy was one of the factors that made me learn
fbsd.

* When someone said 'peer to peer', I think they were really talking
about a "workgroup" as opposed to a domain - it's not really peer to
peer, afaik, but the analogy works.

1) Just set your 'home' box to a random 'workgroup' in the network
setup - you are not going to use it anyway.

2) Get your smb box running.

3) Map a network drive in windows, and use the IP for the smb box.  I
have NEVER had a 'workgroup' function correctly.  Boxes all wired on
the same 100-T switch, and they still can't see eachother?  Amazing.
Just use the IP adress (i.e. \\192.168.1.xyz\mysmbshare) to map the
drive and you will never have a problem.  Oh, and as you are on a fbsd
box, I assume the capitalization of 'mysmbshare' must be correct,
although samba might 'fix' that for you.  I just followed the
instructions in the handbook and samba.org, and had things working in
an hour or two.

Steve
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Re: How to find HorizSync / VertRefresh rates?

[Victor Engmark]

On 4/30/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On Mon, 30 Apr 2007, Victor Engmark wrote:
> I'm trying to create a pristine xorg.conf, but I've been unable to
> find proper values for HorizSync and VertRefresh for my Dell Latitude
> D610.
>
> I've tried the values presented in MonitorsDB
> 
> for "Dell 1400x1050 Laptop Display Panel", which are HorizSync
> 31.5-90.0 and VertRefresh 59.0-75.0, but I get a warning in
> /var/log/Xorg.0.log for both of them saying they are "not within DDC
> ranges."
>
> I've tried looking around the Dell web pages, but I haven't found any
> pages mentioning these parameters (not too surprising, really).
>
> I've tried to leave these settings out, but even then I get a warning:
> (WW) I810(0): config file hsync range 60-66.3158kHz not within DDC hsync
> ranges.
>
> I'm wondering if this has anything to do with the other warnings I get
> during startup:
> (WW) I810(0): Bad V_BIOS checksum
> and
> (WW) I810(0): Extended BIOS function 0x5f05 failed.
>
> It seems that a DDC (or, apparently, DDS) query should be able to
> determine these numbers, but
> cd /usr/ports && make search name=ddc && make search name=dds
> doesn't give any tools to deal with this.
>
> The relevant part of /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
>
> Section "Monitor"
> Identifier   "Dell Latitude D610 monitor"
> VendorName   "SEC"
> ModelName"3450"
> # From Xorg.0.log
> DisplaySize  286 214
> Option   "DPMS"
> EndSection

Get the info off any labels you might find on your monitor and go to:
www.monitorworld.com

You might get lucky



Thanks, but no luck. There are no labels (it's a laptop screen), and the
Dell product 
pagedoesn't
provide any useful information. Too bad MonitorWorld doesn't
allow indexing , or it would actually be
searchable (their search sucks).

--
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Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur - What is said in Latin, sounds
profound
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RE: pop up message

[Bob]

Using a different virtual root terminal is side stepping the question. The
correct answer is to edit /etc/syslog.conf and
change the error messages from going to /dev/console to go to
/var/log/messages instead.

Or in some circles the Unix purists would say you should not be using the
"root" user id as your normal id.
Root should be reserved for doing system install tasks and system
administration tasks only.
Create your self a user id to use as your normal id doing all your
non-system tasks under. Then when you logon to root you will see only the
pop up messages as a summary of things you as system admin needs to be
alerted to.  That's how "root" id its intended to be used. But by changing
syslog.conf you can change this default behavior of the alerting messages
being sent to root user id.

  -Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Joe Ryan
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 11:09 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: pop up message

These messages are normal and are only visible on the first virtual
terminal (alt+f1).  Switch to another terminal using alt+f2 or alt+f3...
and you won't see the messages.

ChueKeung Mock wrote:
> Hi, I had problem of pop up message during using the
> terminal of freebsd.  I installed Freebsd 6.1 on AMD
> cup computer.  there is pop up message during using
> the terminal.  the messages like
>
> "Apr 28 20:05:01 dhcppc1 login: ROOT LOGIN (root) ON
> ttyv0"
>
> "Apr 28 21:52:53 dhcppc1 last message repeated 5
> times"
>
> I feel these message annoying because it disturbs me
> when I edit a doc using editor.  please let me know
> how to turn these message off.  thank you
>
> tony
>
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Re: scsi raid geometry high-point rocketraid 1640

[Jerry McAllister]

On Mon, Apr 30, 2007 at 09:54:04AM +0200, Klaus Friis Østergaard wrote:

> 2007/4/30, Jerry McAllister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I have a raidcontroller high-point 1640 with 4 disks of 400 GB in a raid
> >5
> >> array given me 1200 GB. The bios utility of the controller zero build
> >the
> >> array with 64 kb
> >>
> >> FDISK says that the geometry is 145923/255/63 and it is incorrect. Then
> >it
> >> says that for scsi it is the translation mode the raid controller is
> >using.
> >
> >Usually you want to accept what fdisk does.  Just make the slices
> >that you want.   Geometry is virtual on these systems.
> >
> >>
> >> How do I find this?
> >>
> >> If I continue with the defaults I only get 1144654 MB like missing 100
> >GB.
> >
> >Well, I would expect you to get something less than 1,490 GB just from
> >the difference between the manufacturer use of GB (1,000,000,000 Bytes)
> >and the way the OS uses GB (1,073,741,824 Bytes).
> 
> 
> That is the missing link, the raid controller says 1200 GB if recalculated,
> using 1.073741824 it gives  1,117.59  GB  multiplied by 1024 it gives
> 1144409 MB which is what FDISK gives default.

Wow.   Don't tell me I got one  (out of how many?).
I shall celebrate.

jerry


> 
> I don't know how much the raidcontroller eats up to manage
> >the raid.  Raid 5 takes a piece for its redundancy/error
> >correction.  A raid 5 would eat at least 20% and maybe up to 30% if it
> >is rather inefficient.
> 
> 
> WIth 4 disks it is 25% as 4th disk make the redundancy.
> 
> After that you will lose some because of inconvenient remnants of space
> >that doesn't get used.   Then, there are amounts for superblocks and other
> >aspects of building a filesystem, etc.  I think that tends to be around
> >10%
> >altogether.
> >
> >So, your number seems somewhat probable, offhand, without detailed
> >calculations.
> >
> >What operations did you do to get to that point?   Mine would be an
> >fdisk that makes one slice of the entire device, a bsdlabel that
> >divides the slice in to about 6 partitions (including swap) and
> >a newfs on each partition except swap.
> 
> 
> I only need the array only for one big slice and one partition for data
> storage.
> 
> 
> Thanks for the help
> -- 
> Klaus F. Østergaard, 
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Re: A good quiet power supply?

[Howard Goldstein]

Bill-Schoolcraft wrote:
Just got a new PC at home, it's noisy and was wondering if anyone can 
share some experience here.  I just read about a "fanless" power-supply 
and then realized I needed some input.


If you have a circuit city nearby you might want to see if they have the 
mad dog supply on clearance.  It does have the large 120mm fan but to me 
it's inaudible, it was about $49 when they were still carrying it as an 
in-stock item.


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Re: 5.5 hardware support

[Chuck Swiger]

Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:

On Sunday, 29 April 2007 at 17:56:23 -0800, Harry Veltman wrote:

Does 5.5 support my ELSA GLoria Synergy 8 MByte, Driver version 5.36.00.382,
OpenGL version 1.1 2.01.14.128 video card?  I purchased and installed
version 4.8 several years ago, but it didn't seem to like the video card.


This is more likely to be a question of X support, right?


Agreed.  If the ELSA card supports VESA, than one ought to be able to get at 
least a minimal graphic environment working, albeit without hardware 
acceleration for 3D/OpenGL.



In any case, FreeBSD 5.5 is no longer supported.


It isn't?  Perhaps someone should update the list of "Production Releases" on 
www.freebsd.org's home page, then.  :-)


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Re: A good quiet power supply?

[Chuck Swiger]

Bill-Schoolcraft wrote:
Just got a new PC at home, it's noisy and was wondering if anyone can 
share some experience here.  I just read about a "fanless" power-supply 
and then realized I needed some input.


It's possible to run systems which don't use enough power to need fans, but 
you have to design the system accordingly using either underclocked components 
or low-power/laptop-oriented CPU and video.  Most desktop systems are going to 
run too hot without some form of active cooling.


Also, you probably should start by opening the case and seeing what is making 
all of the noise: it might be a CPU fan or even a chipset fan, and not the PSU 
fan, which is causing most of the racket.


For the PSU, good vendors include Antec, Foxconn, and Enermax...look for a 
unit which has a single "smart" (thermally controlled) 120mm fan, as the 
larger fan can run at a lower speed and still move enough air.


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OpenGL in KDE only on top 420 pixels

[Victor Engmark]

Hi all,

I'm currently running KDE 3.5.6 on 6.2-RELEASE, and I've tested OpenGL with
the screen savers from the "OpenGL Screen Sav..." [sic] category. The
results so far:

  - KRotation doesn't work at all, but I don't get any error messages,
  and `grep -iR krotation /var/log/*` doesn't give any results.
  - KPendulum and Space work and are centered on the screen.
  - All the others (Bitmap Flag, Euphoria, Fireworks 3D, Flux, Gravity,
  Particle Fountain, and Solar Winds) use only the top 420 pixels of the
  screen. It looks as though the graphics has been displaced, because it
  doesn't look like it's been scaled to fit the area, and it also doesn't look
  like the bottom 630 px (my screen is 1400x1050 px) have been cropped.

Searching Google and the KDE  and
x.orgbug databases didn't produce any
results which seem related. Any tips?

Here are the relevant parts of my /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Section "Monitor"
 Identifier   "Dell Latitude D610 monitor"
 VendorName   "SEC"
 ModelName"3450"
 DisplaySize  285.7 214.3
 Option   "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Device"
 Identifier  "Intel 915GM"
 Driver  "i810"
 VendorName  "Intel Corporation"
 BoardName   "Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller"
 BusID   "PCI:0:2:0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
 Identifier   "Dell Latitude D610 screen"
 Device   "Intel 915GM"
 Monitor  "Dell Latitude D610 monitor"
 DefaultDepth 24
 SubSection "Display"
   Depth   1
   Modes   "1400x1050" "1024x768"
 EndSubSection
 SubSection "Display"
   Depth   4
   Modes   "1400x1050" "1024x768"
 EndSubSection
 SubSection "Display"
   Depth   8
   Modes   "1400x1050" "1024x768"
 EndSubSection
 SubSection "Display"
   Depth   15
   Modes   "1400x1050" "1024x768"
 EndSubSection
 SubSection "Display"
   Depth   16
   Modes   "1400x1050" "1024x768"
 EndSubSection
 SubSection "Display"
   Depth   24
   Modes   "1400x1050" "1024x768"
 EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "DRI"
 Mode 0666
EndSection

Also, I use the following to enable the native resolution:
$ tail -1 /etc/rc.d/local
/usr/local/bin/915resolution 3c 1400 1050

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6.2 & bge driver

[Bill Harris]

Had problems with 6.1 and BGE driver not initializing correctly on 
HP Proliant servers.   That particular problem was fixed in stable
source.

It seems to be back in 6.2?   

Any suggestions?

-bill

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Re: Dell D610 touchpad configuration

[Victor Engmark]

On 4/27/07, Matt Kosht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On 4/27/07, Victor Engmark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm attempting to configure my laptop properly for X.org, and the only
> device which doesn't work properly now is the touchpad. The tutorials
> I've seen so far seem to assume that all touchpads use the Synaptic
> driver, but this is the information I get at boot time, and which I
> assume is the touchpad:
> $ dmesg | grep psm0
> psm0:  irq 12 on atkbdc0
> psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
> psm0: model GlidePoint, device ID 0
>
> Apropos, "dmesg | grep -i synapt" gives no output, and "dmesg | grep
> -i mouse" only shows the PS/2 + the USB mouse.

I have a Dell Latitude D820 (uses same synaptics touchpad as your)
with the same issue as you.  There is another change required by the
driver to work correctly.

you need to add this line in your /boot/loader.conf

hw.psm.synaptics_support="1"

This didn't make it work for me, but I would be curious if it did for
you and I can try to duplicate what you are doing.


Sorry, I didn't mention this - I already added it (without the quotes;
I guess they are not significant):
$ grep synaptics /boot/loader.conf
hw.psm.synaptics_support=1

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netd questions about /var/log/messages

[Joe]

Hello, 

   I have configured syslogd to log ipfw rules to an ipfw-rules.lol, however I 
still get messages in /var/log/messages.  Do I need to do something else to log 
natd messages in a log?  How do I get more info on what natd is putting out?

I'm guessing theses are being denied, but not sure what rule is denying 
these messages.

Thanks, 
Joe

Apr 29 21:35:24 router natd[545]: denied [TCP] 66.35.250.204:443 -> 
xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:14519
Apr 29 21:35:24 router natd[545]: denied [TCP] 66.35.250.204:443 -> 
xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:14520
Apr 29 21:35:24 router natd[545]: denied [TCP] 66.35.250.204:443 -> 
xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:14520


   
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Re: allow ftp access, not shell access

[Niek]

Thanks,
I had caught that one but is there anything else I should do for the sake of 
security?

Ray

  

You could use a server like pureftpd with virtual users.
In that case you don't even need to have shell users for ftp access.

Niek

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X/gnome through ssh, clashes with local gnome?

[WarrenHead]

Hi list,

I want to connect X from my Ubuntu machine to my local FreeBSD machine, 
through ssh.

Sofar ssh and X are working, but Gnome/GDM/Metacity seem to have issues.
I really wonder whether this has something to do with the fact that on 
Ubuntu I also have Gnome running.


Anyway, when I log into FreeBSD and start gnome-session, this is what I 
get on the console:


SESSION_MANAGER=local/celeron2.lan:/tmp/.ICE-unix/34272
Window manager warning: Screen 0 on display "localhost:10.0" already has 
a window manager; try using the --replace option to replace the current 
window manager.
Window manager warning: Screen 0 on display "localhost:10.0" already has 
a window manager; try using the --replace option to replace the current 
window manager.


** (gnome-panel:34290): WARNING **: Failed to authenticate with GDM
^C

What I see happening is an error window coming up on screen, saying that 
the Gnome-Settings daemon failed.


There was an error starting the GNOME Settings Daemon.

Some things, such as themes, sounds, or background settings may not work 
correctly.


The last error message was:

Process /usr/local/libexec/gnome-settings-daemon exited with status 1

GNOME will still try to restart the Settings Daemon next time you log in.

After that the standard gnome loading panel comes up in front of 
me(sometimes), loading 'The Panel' and such, after which I see my top 
Ubuntu gnome menubar change into the FreeBSD gnome menubar.
When I click on items in the top menubar I do see the FreeBSD 
menuoptions and I can start programs, but I still see my Ubuntu 
background, bottom menubar and Ubuntu programs running.


In other words, both gnome's seem to be working at the same time, but 
not very well together.


It's the first time I am working with remote X through SSH. RDP and VNC 
are the things I am more used to. So I am sorry if I am making stupid 
n00b mistakes, but yes, I am sure I am missing something totally obvious.
I do read (with Google) that there is confusion about XDMCP versus X 
through SSH. I definitely want only the latter and have not enabled 
XDMCP. (consciously)


So, what strikes me as very odd:
GDM is allowing tcp connections and I get gnome on screen, but the error 
message says that I could not be authenticated. UID problem? Username 
and password are the same.



Cheers, Warren
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Re: Greylisting -- Was: Anti Spam

[cpghost]

On Mon, Apr 30, 2007 at 01:16:23AM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
> The system that would cause problems if it ran
> greylisting is not MY system.  It's the mailserver owned by the cellular
> company that I am sending to.   If they went and installed greylisting
> it is highly unlikely I could get them to whitelist me.  (have you
> ever, for example, tried to get a system off AOL's internal blacklist?)

Yes, that's indeed a problem; but how likely would that be?
Cellular operators know that their clients expect speedy
delivery of SMS, including those sent via SMTP. They know
better than to introduce greylisting latency at the gateway
when there's already normal latency at the SMSC.

Have you confirmed with your cellular operator that they
don't offer additional gateways; e.g. based on ICQ, HTTP
and whatnot? Most likely, they don't offer SMPP-over-TCP
connections to end-users ( http://www.smsforum.net/ ),
but probably to a couple of third-party providers that
you could use instead?

-cpghost.

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How to find HorizSync / VertRefresh rates?

[Victor Engmark]

Hi all,

I'm trying to create a pristine xorg.conf, but I've been unable to
find proper values for HorizSync and VertRefresh for my Dell Latitude
D610.

I've tried the values presented in MonitorsDB

for "Dell 1400x1050 Laptop Display Panel", which are HorizSync
31.5-90.0 and VertRefresh 59.0-75.0, but I get a warning in
/var/log/Xorg.0.log for both of them saying they are "not within DDC
ranges."

I've tried looking around the Dell web pages, but I haven't found any
pages mentioning these parameters (not too surprising, really).

I've tried to leave these settings out, but even then I get a warning:
(WW) I810(0): config file hsync range 60-66.3158kHz not within DDC hsync ranges.

I'm wondering if this has anything to do with the other warnings I get
during startup:
(WW) I810(0): Bad V_BIOS checksum
and
(WW) I810(0): Extended BIOS function 0x5f05 failed.

It seems that a DDC (or, apparently, DDS) query should be able to
determine these numbers, but
cd /usr/ports && make search name=ddc && make search name=dds
doesn't give any tools to deal with this.

The relevant part of /etc/X11/xorg.conf:

Section "Monitor"
 Identifier   "Dell Latitude D610 monitor"
 VendorName   "SEC"
 ModelName"3450"
 # From Xorg.0.log
 DisplaySize  286 214
 Option   "DPMS"
EndSection

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Re: A good quiet power supply?

[Erik Trulsson]

On Sun, Apr 29, 2007 at 10:41:31PM -0700, Bill-Schoolcraft wrote:
> Hello Family,
> 
> Just got a new PC at home, it's noisy and was wondering if 
> anyone can share some experience here.  I just read about 
> a "fanless" power-supply and then realized I needed some input.
> 
> http://www.xoxide.com/fanlesspsu.html


For much more information than you probably wanted to know on how to make a
PC more quiet and which components are quiet and which are not (especially
power supplies) go to  http://www.silentpcreview.com/  and start reading.

For information on fanless PSUs in particular read
 http://www.silentpcreview.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=12452

(Short version:  Don't use a fanless PSU unless you know what you are
doing.)





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RE: A good quiet power supply?

[Ted Mittelstaedt]

Hi Bill,

  My $0.02 on this is that it is cheaper to just buy an off-the-shelf
power supply and open it up and replace the fan with a quieter one.  That
same site sells these:

http://www.xoxide.com/nmbsil80fan.html

22dba

or these:

http://www.xoxide.com/enermax-marathon-enlobal-fan-80mm.html

14dba

That same site also sells vibration dampers which help as well:

http://www.xoxide.com/vibdampener.html

Ted

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
> Bill-Schoolcraft
> Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 10:42 PM
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: A good quiet power supply?
> 
> 
> Hello Family,
> 
> Just got a new PC at home, it's noisy and was wondering if 
> anyone can share some experience here.  I just read about 
> a "fanless" power-supply and then realized I needed some input.
> 
> http://www.xoxide.com/fanlesspsu.html
> 
> TIA
> 
> -- 
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> 
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>  lying in hospitals dying of nothing."
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RE: Greylisting -- Was: Anti Spam

[Ted Mittelstaedt]

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kenny Dail
> Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 8:18 PM
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: Greylisting -- Was: Anti Spam
>
>
> > > I'm monitoring systems at the ISP I work at.  No, it is not life or
> > > death
> > > if a feed goes down for 3 hours and a bunch of people cannot download
> > > their daily freebsd-questions mailing list fix.  At least, I don't
> > > think
> > > so.  But they do.  And as their money that buys the ISP's product puts
> > > the bread on my table, I have to do what they want.  And they want
> > > instant
> > > response if there is a problem in the ISP's systems.  That won't
> > > happen if
> > > the monitoring system's e-mails that get sent out when there is a
> > > problem
> > > lie around in a mail queue for an hour waiting for a greylist at the
> > > cell company to let the messages through.
> I understand where you are coming from on this, of course email is not
> the right medium to use for notifying of email failures.

Obviously.

> We built an SMS
> gateway.

That is one way to do it, there are others.  In our case, since we have
a number of mailservers, we simply pair them up to monitor each other
specifically for mail failures.

Ted

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RE: Greylisting -- Was: Anti Spam

[Ted Mittelstaedt]

> -Original Message-
> From: John Levine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 6:31 AM
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Greylisting -- Was: Anti Spam
>
>
> >> Email is not an instant messaging system, no matter how much you want
> >> it to be one.
> >
> >Cell phone companies won't take pages any other way no matter
> how much you
> >want them to.
>
> This might be a good time to learn about outfits like clickatell.com
> that provide SMS gateway service.  They charge about 10 cents a
> message.
>

Your still not getting the point.  The monitoring system speaks
e-mail.  If it speaks e-mail to the cell carrier and the cell carrier
starts greylisting it is screwed.  If it speaks e-mail to the SMS
gateway service and the gateway service starts greylisting it is
still screwed.

Instead of "monitoring system" substitute one of many, many, many
other embedded devices that use e-mail to send notifications.  For
example, print servers, UPSes, ethernet-to-ethernet hardware routers,
etc.

I don't understand why people are focusing on trying to redesign
the monitoring system I'm using.  Don't you have any imagination
at all?  The point was that there are legitimate situations where
the delays introduced by greylisting are a problem.  I used the
monitoring system as an example to make it easy to grasp the
point.  If it would help, I'll stop talking about it and use another
example.

Sure, it's possible to modify the greylist to whitelist.  That
implies that the sender knows greylisting is happening, knows
how to get the recipient to whitelist, it implies the recipient
is even willing to whitelist,  etc.

Imagine a cell company that puts in greylisting being deluged by
30% of their million-plus userbase requesting to be whitelisted
for just the reason I cited.  Do you think it would be realistic
for the cell company to do this?

Sure it's also possible to do something like reconfigure the monitoring
system to just call a page-only number that goes to a pager and
use touch tones to put in a message, then to wear a pager instead of
the cell phone.  There are workarounds to the monitoring scenario
I cited.  That does not prove there are workarounds to every one
of these kinds of scenarios.

Ted

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link for CD keywords

[Mike Chuah]

Hello my name is Mike Chuah. we are seeking out possible link partners that our 
visitors would be interesting in visiting. I've found your website to be very 
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I hope this can be a way for us to benefit our visitors with excellent content. 
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RE: Greylisting -- Was: Anti Spam

[Ted Mittelstaedt]

> -Original Message-
> From: Bart Silverstrim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 3:40 AM
> To: Ted Mittelstaedt
> Cc: Eric Crist; Grant Peel; Christopher Hilton;
> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: Greylisting -- Was: Anti Spam
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 29, 2007, at 5:00 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Bart Silverstrim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 5:01 PM
> >> To: Ted Mittelstaedt
> >> Cc: Eric Crist; Grant Peel; Christopher Hilton;
> >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> >> Subject: Re: Greylisting -- Was: Anti Spam
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Apr 28, 2007, at 5:25 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
>  -Original Message-
>  From: Bart Silverstrim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 1:58 PM
>  To: Ted Mittelstaedt
>  Cc: Christopher Hilton; Grant Peel; Eric Crist;
>  freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>  Subject: Re: Greylisting -- Was: Anti Spam
> 
> 
> 
>  On Apr 26, 2007, at 12:15 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
> 
> > There are legitimate technical reasons that someone may want their
> > mail
> > to not be greylisted.  For example, my cell phone's e-mail
> > address is
> > in our monitoring scripts to page me in the event of a server
> > failure.
> > I would be pretty pissed off if Sprint suddenly started
> > greylisting.  It
> > isn't just dumb-ass users making stupid political decisions to
> > reject
> > it, although in your case it probably was.
> 
>  If it is a legitimate mail server, it would be promoted to the  
>  auto-
>  whitelist.  Not all mail is constantly greylisted by most  
>  intelligent
>  greylist systems.  Only the first few messages would be delayed,
>  until it is established as legitimate.
> 
> >>>
> >>> That won't work in my case since I generally only have a failure
> >>> that causes
> >>> a problem which results in paging about once every 3 months or so.
> >>> By the
> >>>  time the pages got through the
> >>> greylist it would be at least an hour later after the system had  
> >>> gone
> >>> down.  That isn't acceptable for a notification system.
> >>
> >> What?  What do you mean, a failure that causes a problem which
> >> results in paging once every 3 months?
> >>
> >> If your mail server tries to contact another mail server and it can't
> >> reach it, you're saying your mail server doesn't retry for an hour?
> >>
> >
> > If the monitoring system notices something down, I have to know about
> > it within a few minutes.  I cannot wait for the mailserver that  
> > sends the
> > page out to retry sending the page to the cell carrier's mailserver
> > in an hour.
> 
> Ted, usually I find your posts intelligent and food for thought, but  
> I almost think you're doing this on purpose now.
> 

No, the problem is you haven't understood the point I was making.

> When you're setting it up, you would set up manually to have your own  
> system whitelisted.

The system that would cause problems if it ran
greylisting is not MY system.  It's the mailserver owned by the cellular
company that I am sending to.   If they went and installed greylisting
it is highly unlikely I could get them to whitelist me.  (have you
ever, for example, tried to get a system off AOL's internal blacklist?)

> I would assume that if you really don't own your  
> own domain/mail system, you still would have a provider that would  
> whitelist *themselves* so you could send the email from your provider  
> to yourself.  If you're using SMS, I would personally either tell my  
> phone provider about it or send a few messages myself to have it  
> whitelist the entry and then periodically test the system, since  
> really you should be testing such systems periodically anyway (and  
> make sure the listing is still working).
> 
> You said yourself you use greylisting, I thought.  Don't you already  
> have a system like this in place?
> 
> > Things go down rarely.  The moonitoring system is not continually  
> > sending
> > out pages to my cell phone every day.  Many times many months will  
> > pass
> > in between the monitoring system sending my cell phone a page.  If the
> > cell phone company was running greylisting, any whitelist entry for my
> > monitoring system would be gone by then.
> 
> We rarely lose power to the buildings, but our generator system still  
> kicks over once a week to test.  Why can't you send a page once or  
> twice a week to make sure it's working properly?

Well for starters I have to know that the cell carrier is in fact
greylisting.  You can't put a workaround in for something you don't know.
As far as I know they aren't greylisting right now - but if they start
up doing it in the future I doubt I'll be told in advance.  For all
I know they have a cluster of SMTP receivers and sending a page a
week might not get all of th

Re: scsi raid geometry high-point rocketraid 1640

[Klaus Friis Østergaard]

2007/4/30, Jerry McAllister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:



> Hi,
>
> I have a raidcontroller high-point 1640 with 4 disks of 400 GB in a raid
5
> array given me 1200 GB. The bios utility of the controller zero build
the
> array with 64 kb
>
> FDISK says that the geometry is 145923/255/63 and it is incorrect. Then
it
> says that for scsi it is the translation mode the raid controller is
using.

Usually you want to accept what fdisk does.  Just make the slices
that you want.   Geometry is virtual on these systems.

>
> How do I find this?
>
> If I continue with the defaults I only get 1144654 MB like missing 100
GB.

Well, I would expect you to get something less than 1,490 GB just from
the difference between the manufacturer use of GB (1,000,000,000 Bytes)
and the way the OS uses GB (1,073,741,824 Bytes).



That is the missing link, the raid controller says 1200 GB if recalculated,
using 1.073741824 it gives  1,117.59  GB  multiplied by 1024 it gives
1144409 MB which is what FDISK gives default.

I don't know how much the raidcontroller eats up to manage

the raid.  Raid 5 takes a piece for its redundancy/error
correction.  A raid 5 would eat at least 20% and maybe up to 30% if it
is rather inefficient.



WIth 4 disks it is 25% as 4th disk make the redundancy.

After that you will lose some because of inconvenient remnants of space

that doesn't get used.   Then, there are amounts for superblocks and other
aspects of building a filesystem, etc.  I think that tends to be around
10%
altogether.

So, your number seems somewhat probable, offhand, without detailed
calculations.

What operations did you do to get to that point?   Mine would be an
fdisk that makes one slice of the entire device, a bsdlabel that
divides the slice in to about 6 partitions (including swap) and
a newfs on each partition except swap.



I only need the array only for one big slice and one partition for data
storage.


Thanks for the help
--
Klaus F. Østergaard, 
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Re: Port dependency tool (if that's what you'd call it)

[Mark Evenson]

Modulok wrote:

I'm not quite sure how to put into word what I want, so bear with me. Is
there a tool in the base system which does something along these lines:

1. Look at the makefile of a given port as far as its RUN_DEPENDS and
BUILD_DEPENDS.
2. Subtracting what I have already installed, provide me with information
about what would be fetched (and possibly installed) in an easy-to-digest
format, recursively (for all dependents of dependents ... and so on).

If not part of the base system, is there a port which offers this
functionality?


The standard ports for this kind of functionality are

port-mgmt/portupgrade
port-mgmt/portmaster

'portupgrade' is the older utility; 'portmaster' has recently come on 
the "scene", with slightly different aims.  I use 'portupgrade' as I 
haven't really spent the time to learn about 'portmaster'.


Once 'portupgrade' is installed, and you have built its database with 
'pkgdb', you should be able to answer your second question via


freebsd$ portupgrade --noexecute --upward-recursive PORTNAME

where PORTNAME is the name of the port (qv. 'ports_glob' for how this is 
specified) to give you information on what needs to be updated.  You 
might need to trim the output a bit to get the succinct list of 
dependencies that need updating, but the output of 'portupgrade' is 
quite regular so a little regexp'in in your preferred scripting language 
 should bring you to the result you want.


There may be other more direct routes to the information you seek, but 
this way will definitely work.





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Re: freebsd installation server (nfs/ftp/http) local network

[Anuj Singh]

Hiee,
it is not on a public network, all i am trying to know how to do it, I do
the same method for installing linux os, I exported FreeBSD6.2 ISO images
via nfs. it didn't worked. Do I need to extract the files? to install
freebsd via nfs, or ftp or http over a local network.
regards
anugunj anuj



On 4/29/07, Garrett Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


anujgunj anuj singh wrote:
> Hiee,
> I have ISO images on network pc, I want to perform a network
> installation using nfs OR ftp OR http.
> Plus what is the best way of installation (package selection) to not to
> switch cd's between 2 cd's.
> regards
> anugunj anuj
>
> On Sun, 2007-04-29 at 23:37 +0400, Reshmakov Roman wrote:
>>> Hiee,
>>> I need to create a nfs/ftp/http installation server threw which I can
>>> install FreeBSD on other local machines. I have ISO images of
>>> FreeBSD6.2.
>>> How to create any or all nfs/ftp/http installation server. I went
threw
>>> man pages it shows me CDROM sharing network installation. I want to
>>> install with ISO images on hard-disk.
>>> Thanks and regards
>>> anugunj anuj
>> Use dump/restore and Fix-it from installation CD-ROM. I use this
>> method and install new server over 20-30 min.

All will equally serve the purpose of helping you install the files on
your target machine. NFS is the least computing intensive option though
and doesn't require additional components to be installed in order to
use an NFS server. I would suggest not using this though if concerned
about security issues, i.e. your machine is running on a
unsecured/public network.

-Garrett


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