Re: 7.0 installation, and Xorg in particular

2007-12-01 Thread Dominic Fandrey
Frank Staals wrote:
 Freminlins wrote:
 
 snip
 Err, yeah. Look through hundreds of packages to see which dependencies
 they
 have. Helpful. Not.

 This way of doing X11 is seriously unhelpful to end users. If having
 individual packages for everything is so good, please tell me why
 everything
 in /bin, /usr/bin and so on is not an individual package. It's because
 the
 idea of doing so is dumb.

 Frem.
   
 Allthough I think the modular approach to Xorg is a good thing, I have
 to agree the xorg-meta port installs A LOT of ports. A xorg-lite port an
 xorg-lite port would be usefull for a user who is planning on installing
 a low-end X windows environment.  I  thought  I read at the
 freebsd-ports list such thing was being worked on some time ago. But I
 haven't heard anything about it anymore for quite some time now. What
 happened to that idea ?

I suppose because it's not needed:

# cd /usr/ports/x11/xorg
# make config-recursive

will allow you to make all your choices.
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Re: looking for suggestions: multiple users on the same desktop

2007-12-01 Thread Aryeh M. Friedman
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RW wrote:
but I don't want to logout
 and login back in and/or have to invoke the app from the cmd line
 (i.e. xhost +; setenv DISPLAY :0; app cmd line)... I am looking for a
 way to make it so I can launch apps from a desktop panel and/or icon
 on the desktop and make it ask what user to run it under (or somehow
 or another make it aware that not everything is to be ruin as
 aryeh)

Even though not very flexible or elegant (in the long run) what I
ended up doing was just sticking a backgrounded gnome-panel into the
.cshrc for each acct
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FreeBSD Schedule

2007-12-01 Thread David Naylor
Hi,

I saw that someone updated the schedule pages for FBSD-7:

Thank you!!!

David
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FreeBSD7 - PAE and nVidia

2007-12-01 Thread David Naylor
Hi,

I have googled, looked though the mailing archives and the FreeBSD
Handbook but I have not found out how to build a PAE FreeBSD kernel
with nVidia graphics drivers included.  This is for an Asus P5N-E
system with 4GB of RAM and SLI graphics cards.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance

David
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Re: named.conf - unable to set control bit

2007-12-01 Thread Gelsema, P (Patrick) - FreeBSD
On Fri, November 30, 2007 20:11, David Robillard wrote:
Hi list,

I have got the following issue. I have added the following settings in
named.conf but am unable to get it working. If I read the man page it
seems that what I have put in is completely correct.

REason to put it in is that I want the DHCP server to automatically
 update
the DNS zone.

the error I get is:

Nov 30 14:09:31 hulk named[6848]: reloading configuration failed: failure
Nov 30 14:09:45 hulk named[6848]: /etc/namedb/named.conf:20: expected
'allow' near ';'
Nov 30 14:09:45 hulk named[6848]: reloading configuration failed:
unexpected token

head -n 25 /etc/named/named.conf
# generated with dnssec-keygen -a HMAC-MD5 -b 128 -n USER DHCP_UPDATER
key DHCP_UPDATER {
 algorithm HMAC-MD5.SIG-ALG.REG.INT;
 secret hashedstring==;
 };

acl home {10.202.77.0/24;127.0.0.1;};

options {
 // Relative to the chroot directory, if any
 directory   /etc/namedb;
 pid-file/var/run/named/pid;
 dump-file   /var/dump/named_dump.db;
 statistics-file /var/stats/named.stats;
 allow-query {home; };

};

controls {
 inet 127.0.0.1 port 953;
allow { 127.0.0.1;10.202.77.110; } keys { DHCP_UPDATER; };
};

Line 20 is where controls start.

Any help much appreciated.

rgds,

Patrick

 Patrick,

 When you update your named.conf file, make sure you run a syntax check
 before (re)starting named. Here's how you do it:

 named-checkconf /path/to/your/named.conf  echo $?

Thanks for the command.


 If echo returns zero, then you're good to go. Otherwise, fix whatever
 problem is displayed.

 In your case, you need to remove one semi-colomn (;) to fix your
 problem. Here's what your control statement should look like:

 controls {
  inet 127.0.0.1 port 953 allow { 127.0.0.1;10.202.77.110; }
 keys { DHCP_UPDATER; };
 };


Ok. I was in the impression that the inet line had to be a seperate line.
Changing it on one line and removing the ; solved it for me.

Thanks

 Cheers,

 David
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Re: FreeBSD7 - PAE and nVidia

2007-12-01 Thread Aryeh M. Friedman
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David Naylor wrote:
 Hi,

 I have googled, looked though the mailing archives and the FreeBSD
 Handbook but I have not found out how to build a PAE FreeBSD kernel
 with nVidia graphics drivers included.  This is for an Asus P5N-E
 system with 4GB of RAM and SLI graphics cards.

- From my experience PAE is ok for 4GB but over it stuff get weird... I
use amd64 with the nv driver

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Re: FreeBSD7 - PAE and nVidia

2007-12-01 Thread Pieter de Goeje
On Saturday 01 December 2007, David Naylor wrote:
 I have googled, looked though the mailing archives and the FreeBSD
 Handbook but I have not found out how to build a PAE FreeBSD kernel
 with nVidia graphics drivers included.  This is for an Asus P5N-E
 system with 4GB of RAM and SLI graphics cards.
PAE is not supported by the nvidia driver. I quote from pkg-message.in: 
Note that this driver does not support PAE-enabled kernels.

- Pieter de Goeje
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Re: What's the point of the shell choice in single user mode?

2007-12-01 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Sat, Dec 01, 2007 at 04:44:27AM +, John Murphy wrote:
 I've just successfully done the world and kernel upgrade from 7 beta2
 to beta3. I've always had a mergemaster phobia, but it didn't seem too
 bad this time. I thought I'd broken it after choosing /bin/tcsh as my
 shell in single user mode. It grumbled about termcap (I think) and
 then gave me a simple shell with a % prompt.
 
 fsck and mount were unknown commands and even though I could change
 directory to /usr or /home they were (apparently) empty! Scary!
 I now realise it was because they were not mounted of course.
 
 I'll know to always accept the suggested /bin/sh in future, but I was
 wondering if the only reason a choice of a different shell is offered
 is to scare the unwary.

On possible scenario is that /bin/sh has - somehow - been corrupted, deleted
or otherwise made unusable.  In that situation it is very nice to be able to
choose some other shell so you can at least try to fix the problem.




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Re: What's the point of the shell choice in single user mode?

2007-12-01 Thread Daniel Bye
On Sat, Dec 01, 2007 at 02:15:26PM +0100, Erik Trulsson wrote:
 On Sat, Dec 01, 2007 at 04:44:27AM +, John Murphy wrote:
  I've just successfully done the world and kernel upgrade from 7 beta2
  to beta3. I've always had a mergemaster phobia, but it didn't seem too
  bad this time. I thought I'd broken it after choosing /bin/tcsh as my
  shell in single user mode. It grumbled about termcap (I think) and
  then gave me a simple shell with a % prompt.
  
  fsck and mount were unknown commands and even though I could change
  directory to /usr or /home they were (apparently) empty! Scary!
  I now realise it was because they were not mounted of course.
  
  I'll know to always accept the suggested /bin/sh in future, but I was
  wondering if the only reason a choice of a different shell is offered
  is to scare the unwary.
 
 On possible scenario is that /bin/sh has - somehow - been corrupted, deleted
 or otherwise made unusable.  In that situation it is very nice to be able to
 choose some other shell so you can at least try to fix the problem.

And some individuals even seem to prefer [t]csh over sh! I know, what's
that all about? ;-P (runs to a safe distance to watch the fireworks...)

John - you would have had the same experience had you selected sh -
only the root file system is mounted if you come up into single user,
which is why the installworld instructions tell you to mount all your
other local file systems. As for fsck and mount being unknown, I suspect
that's due to a very conservative initial PATH under tcsh, but as I
don't use it, I don't know for sure. And the termcap grumble is 
because /etc/termcap is actually a symlink to /usr/share/misc/termcap,
which on your system is evidently not on your / fs.

Dan

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Re: What's the point of the shell choice in single user mode?

2007-12-01 Thread John Murphy
On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 06:18:13 +
RW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 04:44:27 +
 John Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I've just successfully done the world and kernel upgrade from 7 beta2
  to beta3. I've always had a mergemaster phobia, but it didn't seem too
  bad this time. I thought I'd broken it after choosing /bin/tcsh as my
  shell in single user mode. It grumbled about termcap (I think) and
  then gave me a simple shell with a % prompt.
  ...
  I'll know to always accept the suggested /bin/sh in future, but I was
  wondering if the only reason a choice of a different shell is offered
  is to scare the unwary.
 
 Selecting /bin/[t]csh always works for me.

I just tried it again with exactly the same results (FreeBSD-7.0 beta3):

[after pressing 4 at the Beasty menu]

Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad4s2a
Enter full path name of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh:
/bin/tcsh
sh: Cannot open /etc/termcap
sh: using dumb terminal settings
%fsck -p
fsck: Command not found
%mount -u /
mount: Command not found
%reboot
reboot: Command not found
%exit
logout ... continues to a Login prompt.

Pressing RETURN or typing /bin/sh gets a '#' prompt and working fsck etc.

Is your /etc/termcap a symlink?

ll /etc/termcap
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel  23 Nov 15 20:27 /etc/termcap - 
/usr/share/misc/termcap

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Re: What's the point of the shell choice in single user mode?

2007-12-01 Thread John Murphy
On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 13:46:12 +
Daniel Bye [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sat, Dec 01, 2007 at 02:15:26PM +0100, Erik Trulsson wrote:
  On Sat, Dec 01, 2007 at 04:44:27AM +, John Murphy wrote:
   I've just successfully done the world and kernel upgrade from 7 beta2
   to beta3. I've always had a mergemaster phobia, but it didn't seem too
   bad this time. I thought I'd broken it after choosing /bin/tcsh as my
   shell in single user mode. It grumbled about termcap (I think) and
   then gave me a simple shell with a % prompt.
   
   fsck and mount were unknown commands and even though I could change
   directory to /usr or /home they were (apparently) empty! Scary!
   I now realise it was because they were not mounted of course.
   
   I'll know to always accept the suggested /bin/sh in future, but I was
   wondering if the only reason a choice of a different shell is offered
   is to scare the unwary.
  
  On possible scenario is that /bin/sh has - somehow - been corrupted, deleted
  or otherwise made unusable.  In that situation it is very nice to be able to
  choose some other shell so you can at least try to fix the problem.
 
 And some individuals even seem to prefer [t]csh over sh! I know, what's
 that all about? ;-P (runs to a safe distance to watch the fireworks...)
 
 John - you would have had the same experience had you selected sh -
 only the root file system is mounted if you come up into single user,
 which is why the installworld instructions tell you to mount all your
 other local file systems. As for fsck and mount being unknown, I suspect
 that's due to a very conservative initial PATH under tcsh, but as I
 don't use it, I don't know for sure. And the termcap grumble is 
 because /etc/termcap is actually a symlink to /usr/share/misc/termcap,
 which on your system is evidently not on your / fs.

Ah, that explains it. /usr is indeed elsewhere ad4s2f in fact.
[t]csh always gets my vote. (The government still seems to win though) :)

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Re: What's the point of the shell choice in single user mode?

2007-12-01 Thread RW
On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 14:06:19 +
John Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 06:18:13 +
 RW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

  Selecting /bin/[t]csh always works for me.
 
 I just tried it again with exactly the same results (FreeBSD-7.0
 beta3):
 
 [after pressing 4 at the Beasty menu]
 
 Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad4s2a
 Enter full path name of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh:
 /bin/tcsh
 sh: Cannot open /etc/termcap
 sh: using dumb terminal settings
 %fsck -p
 fsck: Command not found

I see what you mean - I do get that. I thought you were saying
that /bin/tcsh wasn't starting. 

Personally I just put all the commands for the single-user mode install
into a simple script and run that.
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(OT) thunderbird + enigmail + gmail

2007-12-01 Thread Aryeh M. Friedman
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I am running Thunderbird (2.0.0.7) and enigmail (0.95.5) to access my
gmail and since last night I get a SSL certificate out of date message
(says gmail's cert expired jan. 30 2005).   Just for verification the
output of date(1) on my end is:

Sat Dec  1 11:01:29 EST 2007

Any ideas on how to make this go away?

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FreeBSD 6.3-PRERELEASE build error

2007-12-01 Thread Jack Raats
After a sucessfull build of the kernel and world, make installworld gives the 
following errors:

install-info --quiet  --defsection=Programming  development tools.  
--defentry=* libcom_err: (com_err).A Common Error Description Library 
for UNIX.  com_err.info /usr/share/info/dir
install-info: /usr/share/info/dir: empty file
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/lib/libcom_err/doc.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/lib/libcom_err.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/lib.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.


FreeBSD 6.3-PRERELEASE
source files: december 1 at 13:00 hours DUtch local time (using cvsup)

Who can help?

Jack Raats

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Re: FreeBSD7 - PAE and nVidia

2007-12-01 Thread David Naylor
Thanks for the info.  Also from what I can see PAE does not support
USB.  The reason why I am using i386 is because I'm not going to
sacrifice my gaming :-) which means nvidia.

Thanks

David

p.s. I'm volunteering to do any testing for an amd64 version of the
nvidia driver...

On 01/12/2007, Pieter de Goeje [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Saturday 01 December 2007, David Naylor wrote:
  I have googled, looked though the mailing archives and the FreeBSD
  Handbook but I have not found out how to build a PAE FreeBSD kernel
  with nVidia graphics drivers included.  This is for an Asus P5N-E
  system with 4GB of RAM and SLI graphics cards.
 PAE is not supported by the nvidia driver. I quote from pkg-message.in:
 Note that this driver does not support PAE-enabled kernels.

 - Pieter de Goeje


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Still Seeing A Problem Building dmx

2007-12-01 Thread Tim Daneliuk

Has anyone found a work around for this?  It's been a problem for several
months:

../../config/libconfig.a(hal.o)(.text+0x774): In function `connect_hook':
: undefined reference to `libhal_ctx_set_device_removed'
../../config/libconfig.a(hal.o)(.text+0x78b): In function `connect_hook':
: undefined reference to `libhal_find_device_by_capability'
../../config/libconfig.a(hal.o)(.text+0x7b8): In function `connect_hook':
: undefined reference to `libhal_free_string_array'
../../config/libconfig.a(hal.o)(.text+0x7c3): In function `connect_hook':
: undefined reference to `dbus_error_free'
../../config/libconfig.a(hal.o)(.text+0x7e2): In function `connect_hook':
: undefined reference to `libhal_ctx_free'
../../config/libconfig.a(hal.o)(.text+0x7ed): In function `connect_hook':
: undefined reference to `dbus_error_free'
../../config/libconfig.a(hal.o)(.text+0x819): In function `connect_hook':
: undefined reference to `libhal_ctx_new'
../../config/libconfig.a(hal.o)(.text+0x853): In function `connect_hook':
: undefined reference to `libhal_ctx_shutdown'
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/x11-servers/xorg-dmx/work/xorg-server-1.4/hw/dmx.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/x11-servers/xorg-dmx/work/xorg-server-1.4/hw/dmx.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/x11-servers/xorg-dmx/work/xorg-server-1.4/hw.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/x11-servers/xorg-dmx/work/xorg-server-1.4.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/x11-servers/xorg-dmx.
** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/portupgrade.14826.101 
env UPGRADE_TOOL=portupgrade UPGRADE_PORT=xorg-dmx-1.2.0,1 
UPGRADE_PORT_VER=1.2.0,1 make BATCH=yes


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acx100 under 7.0-BETA3

2007-12-01 Thread Colin Brace
Hi all,

I have a wireless card with the Texas Instruments ACX 111 chipset that
appears to be supported by the acx100 driver.

However, when I run make install in /usr/ports/net/acx100, I get an error
message:

$ sudo make install
===  acx100-20040701_1 is marked as broken: Does not compile on FreeBSD =
6.x.
*** Error code 1

On the developers web page http://dev.kewl.org/acx100+111/, he indicates
that it has been tested under CURRENT and source tarballs are available
dated 29 October.

What would be the best strategy at this point? Try to compile it outside the
port tree? Wait until the latter has been updated? Send a message to the
maintainer?

Thanks.

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using dd to duplicate disks/partitions of slightly different sizes - works?

2007-12-01 Thread Steve Franks
I've got two 160GB disks.  Different manufacturers, so different #
bytes.  One is FreeBSD, the other blank.  I'd like to backup my system
for the fastest possible recovery after a crash - move the plug and
power up.  I have gmirrored before, but I just wanted to do a quick
dd, since I don't want to abuse my cheapo powersupply (has 4 disks
already on it).

Two questions:

(1) If I dd from the smaller to the larger, will it work?  What
happens to the extra, say 5MB of unused space - will my partition info
be messed up?

(2) If I dd from the larger to the smaller (df reports only 50% used
anyway) is there a way to make sure there is no info in the 5MB at the
end that will overflow the smaller, and again, will my partitions be
ok?

The other option is just to fdisk  label the other disk, then rsync
everything to it.  Is that the wiser choice?

Thanks,
Steve
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Diagnosing an unstable machine

2007-12-01 Thread Ross Penner
I'm currently using FreeBSD 6.2 to run as a fileserver and gateway for my
home. It's been incredibly unstable and I'm trying to figure out why. What
can I do to try and figure out what is causing these crashes? Apparently the
machine just rebooted 20min ago looking at the uptime. They're seemingly
random to me as there is definitely no usage pattern that is obviously
bringing these crashes about. Any help I could get would be greatly
appreciated.
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System Reboots with Bittorrent Use

2007-12-01 Thread ruggeri
Hi!  I have had this problem before, so let me narrate the
history (quickly).

I used to use the rtorrent port.  However, when running
rtorrent (never any other time) the system would spontaneously
reboot.  I couldn't figure out what exactly the problem was,
but when I switched to deluge (another bittorrent port) the
problem seemed to go away.

I have since reformatted my computer.  I began using deluge
again a couple weeks ago, but am again experiencing
spontaneous reboots, now when using deluge (I don't have
rtorrent installed).  I don't get any message in
/var/logs/messages (is there a way to make the computer log
more?  Are there other logs I should check?).  In general the
file system needs to be cleaned after the reboot.

Could this be a driver problem, by any chance?  I use Deluge
version 0.5.6.2, freeBSD version 6.3 Prerelease.

If any more information would help, I'd be happy to provide
it.  Thanks if you can offer any help at all!  I'm still
fairly new to *BSD.
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Re: Diagnosing an unstable machine

2007-12-01 Thread Derek Ragona

At 11:42 AM 12/1/2007, Ross Penner wrote:

I'm currently using FreeBSD 6.2 to run as a fileserver and gateway for my
home. It's been incredibly unstable and I'm trying to figure out why. What
can I do to try and figure out what is causing these crashes? Apparently the
machine just rebooted 20min ago looking at the uptime. They're seemingly
random to me as there is definitely no usage pattern that is obviously
bringing these crashes about. Any help I could get would be greatly
appreciated.


The first thing I would do is make sure you are running 6.2 release with 
the generic kernel.


Look at the last log entries prior to a crash for all the logs in /var/log

Run any diagnostics you have for the hardware (motherboard, memory, hard 
drives, NIC.)


Check your dmesg hardware found to the supported hardware list.

If you are still getting random crashes, post back with your dmesg output 
included.


-Derek

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Re: System Reboots with Bittorrent Use

2007-12-01 Thread Derek Ragona

At 11:53 AM 12/1/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi!  I have had this problem before, so let me narrate the
history (quickly).

I used to use the rtorrent port.  However, when running
rtorrent (never any other time) the system would spontaneously
reboot.  I couldn't figure out what exactly the problem was,
but when I switched to deluge (another bittorrent port) the
problem seemed to go away.

I have since reformatted my computer.  I began using deluge
again a couple weeks ago, but am again experiencing
spontaneous reboots, now when using deluge (I don't have
rtorrent installed).  I don't get any message in
/var/logs/messages (is there a way to make the computer log
more?  Are there other logs I should check?).  In general the
file system needs to be cleaned after the reboot.

Could this be a driver problem, by any chance?  I use Deluge
version 0.5.6.2, freeBSD version 6.3 Prerelease.

If any more information would help, I'd be happy to provide
it.  Thanks if you can offer any help at all!  I'm still
fairly new to *BSD.


It could be anything that relates to bad hardware.  But since you believe 
it is related to the network, and bittorrent use, I would first suspect the 
NIC.  If possible I would swap NIC's and see it the problem still is 
there.  In swapping NIC's I would avail using any with realtek chips and 
opt for a better supported NIC chip like one of the intel NICs.


Otherwise you can run any diagnostic software you have for your hardware, 
and if you post back include the full dmesg output.


-Derek

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Re: System Reboots with Bittorrent Use

2007-12-01 Thread Jonathan Chen
On Sat, Dec 01, 2007 at 11:53:52AM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi!  I have had this problem before, so let me narrate the
 history (quickly).
 
 I used to use the rtorrent port.  However, when running
 rtorrent (never any other time) the system would spontaneously
 reboot.  I couldn't figure out what exactly the problem was,
 but when I switched to deluge (another bittorrent port) the
 problem seemed to go away.
 
 I have since reformatted my computer.  I began using deluge
 again a couple weeks ago, but am again experiencing
 spontaneous reboots, now when using deluge (I don't have
 rtorrent installed).  I don't get any message in
 /var/logs/messages (is there a way to make the computer log
 more?  Are there other logs I should check?).  In general the
 file system needs to be cleaned after the reboot.

There's a bug in the kernel with 6-STABLE with Bittorrent clients that
use multiple threads. This includes the latest deluge and azureus
ports. I've filed a PR for this:

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=117717

but it's been getting no love from the developers. You could try
poking freebsd-stable@ for help.

Cheers.
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gmirror array not unmounting at shutdown

2007-12-01 Thread rloefgren
I have a mirror with two 500GB SATA drives for storage. The system is on a 
gmirror of two 18GB SCSIs. the SATA mirror mounts under /u2 and is in 
fstab. If I reboot, when the machine comes back up I get a notice that /u2 
was not unmounted properly. I go into single user, unmount /u2 and do a 
fsck on /dev/mirror/datas1d. It usually finds some issues and corrects 
them. Sooner or later it's going to fail at the repair.


I thought that by having the array in fstab that the system would take it 
down properly upon a reboot, but that doesn't appear to be the case. Where 
can I put a sync ; umount /u2 where it will take place late enough that 
/u2 actually will unmount? I've looked at rc.shutdown but can't find a 
place where such a line actually seems to be executed.


thx,

r

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Re: using dd to duplicate disks/partitions of slightly different sizes - works?

2007-12-01 Thread Kevin Kinsey

Steve Franks wrote:

I've got two 160GB disks.  Different manufacturers, so different #
bytes.  One is FreeBSD, the other blank.  I'd like to backup my system
for the fastest possible recovery after a crash - move the plug and
power up.  I have gmirrored before, but I just wanted to do a quick
dd, since I don't want to abuse my cheapo powersupply (has 4 disks
already on it).

Two questions:

(1) If I dd from the smaller to the larger, will it work?  What
happens to the extra, say 5MB of unused space - will my partition info
be messed up?

(2) If I dd from the larger to the smaller (df reports only 50% used
anyway) is there a way to make sure there is no info in the 5MB at the
end that will overflow the smaller, and again, will my partitions be
ok?

The other option is just to fdisk  label the other disk, then rsync
everything to it.  Is that the wiser choice?

Thanks,
Steve


Giorgos Keramidas made a great post dealing with this
a while back.  Here 'tis, quoted for your enjoyment
and potential enlightenment (also quoted is Martin
McCormack):

---

 It turns out that dd defaults to 512-byte blocks so I didn't
really need the bs=512, but I am not sure I haven't made some other
type of mistake.  The dd command has been running for about 4 hours on
a very fast system, with a 1-gig processor, 1 gig of RAM and two 31-GB
drives.  One would think it should have finished by now, but it is
still running.  Is this a valid method of copying the entire contents
of one drive to another?  Thank you.


Bah!  That's too slow for my taste.  I would usually go for a newfs,
dump, and restore option.  For instance, to create a copy of /usr on a
second disk:

   newfs -U /dev/ad1s1a
   mount /dev/ad1s1a /mnt
   dump -0 -a -L /usr | ( cd /mnt ; restore ruvf - )

Copying with dd(1) is not as fast  :)
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Linux /proc on FreeBSD

2007-12-01 Thread Lennart Koopmann
Hey everyone,

i am going to port a server that i am currently working on to FreeBSD.
I don't have much experience with FreeBSD yet.
The only real big thing i have to change is the way some data is
fetched. In the Linux version i read in data like the hostname, the
domainname, the kernel version etc from /proc.

Is there a central point to look for those values in FreeBSD?
If not, where do i get those values?

I _don't_ want to use external binaries like sysctl etc...

Thank you!
Lennart Koopmann

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Re: Linux /proc on FreeBSD

2007-12-01 Thread Pieter de Goeje
On Sunday 02 December 2007, Lennart Koopmann wrote:
 Hey everyone,

 i am going to port a server that i am currently working on to FreeBSD.
 I don't have much experience with FreeBSD yet.
 The only real big thing i have to change is the way some data is
 fetched. In the Linux version i read in data like the hostname, the
 domainname, the kernel version etc from /proc.
Sysctls kern.hostname and kern.version.

 Is there a central point to look for those values in FreeBSD?
Yes, the sysctl MIB tree.
 If not, where do i get those values?

 I _don't_ want to use external binaries like sysctl etc...
man 3 sysctl :)

Hope this helps,
Pieter de Goeje
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Re: using dd to duplicate disks/partitions of slightly different sizes - works?

2007-12-01 Thread Mike Jeays
On December 1, 2007 03:19:59 pm Kevin Kinsey wrote:
 Steve Franks wrote:
  I've got two 160GB disks.  Different manufacturers, so different #
  bytes.  One is FreeBSD, the other blank.  I'd like to backup my system
  for the fastest possible recovery after a crash - move the plug and
  power up.  I have gmirrored before, but I just wanted to do a quick
  dd, since I don't want to abuse my cheapo powersupply (has 4 disks
  already on it).
 
  Two questions:
 
  (1) If I dd from the smaller to the larger, will it work?  What
  happens to the extra, say 5MB of unused space - will my partition info
  be messed up?
 
  (2) If I dd from the larger to the smaller (df reports only 50% used
  anyway) is there a way to make sure there is no info in the 5MB at the
  end that will overflow the smaller, and again, will my partitions be
  ok?
 
  The other option is just to fdisk  label the other disk, then rsync
  everything to it.  Is that the wiser choice?
 
  Thanks,
  Steve

 Giorgos Keramidas made a great post dealing with this
 a while back.  Here 'tis, quoted for your enjoyment
 and potential enlightenment (also quoted is Martin
 McCormack):

 ---

   It turns out that dd defaults to 512-byte blocks so I didn't
  really need the bs=512, but I am not sure I haven't made some other
  type of mistake.  The dd command has been running for about 4 hours on
  a very fast system, with a 1-gig processor, 1 gig of RAM and two 31-GB
  drives.  One would think it should have finished by now, but it is
  still running.  Is this a valid method of copying the entire contents
  of one drive to another?  Thank you.

 Bah!  That's too slow for my taste.  I would usually go for a newfs,
 dump, and restore option.  For instance, to create a copy of /usr on a
 second disk:

 newfs -U /dev/ad1s1a
 mount /dev/ad1s1a /mnt
 dump -0 -a -L /usr | ( cd /mnt ; restore ruvf - )

 Copying with dd(1) is not as fast  :)
 --
 HTH,

 Kevin Kinsey

I tried using dd with two 80GB disks, using a much larger block size (512M), 
booting Knoppix to make sure the filesystems on the 'input' disk were 
quiescent.  It worked, but took an amazing 14 hours, which is only about 1.5 
Mb/sec.  The 'output' drive was on an IDE connector shared with the CD 
device, so that may have been a cause of the poor performance.

Anyway, read 'man dd'.  You can specify very large blocksizes.  I suspect it 
might take very many hours with a blocksize of 512.




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Re: Firewall Redirect

2007-12-01 Thread CyberLeo Kitsana
Lucas Neves Martins wrote:
422  ipfw add 950 divert 8082 tcp from any to any 80 via em0

Hi!

I do something similar, except with a small home-grown server used to
serve 'You are banned' pages to people who insist on driving my poor
little webserver into swap.

The directive you're looking for is 'fwd'.

ipfw add 44001 fwd 127.0.0.44 tcp from ${luser} to any 80 in recv fxp0

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Re: using dd to duplicate disks/partitions of slightly different sizes - works?

2007-12-01 Thread RW
On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 20:53:41 -0500
Mike Jeays [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I tried using dd with two 80GB disks, using a much larger block size
 (512M), booting Knoppix to make sure the filesystems on the 'input'
 disk were quiescent.  It worked, but took an amazing 14 hours, which
 is only about 1.5 Mb/sec.  The 'output' drive was on an IDE connector
 shared with the CD device, so that may have been a cause of the poor
 performance.


Probably that was the cause, I've done a few:
 
  dd if=/dev/random of=disc bs=1m 

recently, and they all went an order of magnitude faster than that,
even on PATA drives.

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Re: using dd to duplicate disks/partitions of slightly different sizes - works?

2007-12-01 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Sat, Dec 01, 2007 at 10:29:15AM -0700, Steve Franks wrote:

 I've got two 160GB disks.  Different manufacturers, so different #
 bytes.  One is FreeBSD, the other blank.  I'd like to backup my system
 for the fastest possible recovery after a crash - move the plug and
 power up.  I have gmirrored before, but I just wanted to do a quick
 dd, since I don't want to abuse my cheapo powersupply (has 4 disks
 already on it).
 
 Two questions:
 
 (1) If I dd from the smaller to the larger, will it work?  What
 happens to the extra, say 5MB of unused space - will my partition info
 be messed up?
 
 (2) If I dd from the larger to the smaller (df reports only 50% used
 anyway) is there a way to make sure there is no info in the 5MB at the
 end that will overflow the smaller, and again, will my partitions be
 ok?
 
 The other option is just to fdisk  label the other disk, then rsync
 everything to it.  Is that the wiser choice?

Either rsync or dump/restore.   skip the dd.  It is not a good use of dd.

jerry

 
 Thanks,
 Steve
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setting up slave server with Zoneedit need help

2007-12-01 Thread cuongvt

I have a `internal' network visible only internally. Let say: hanhnhu.local.
This is my master for the local zone. 
I registered 'vuhanhnhu.com' domain with my registrar and pointed it to
zoneedit nameservers: ns3.zoneedit.com and 
ns9.zoneedit.com. I'm using NAT. 
So how can I set up slave with zoneedit for vuhanhnhu.com zone?
Thanks you very much.
below is my files related to local internal DNS:
File named.conf:
options {
directory   /etc/namedb;
pid-file/var/run/named/pid;
dump-file   /var/dump/named_dump.db;
statistics-file /var/stats/named.stats;
listen-on   { 192.168.0.1; 127.0.0.1; };
forwarders {
210.245.0.131;
};
};

zone hanhnhu.local in {
typemaster;
filegrv.zone;
};

zone 0.168.192.in-addr.arpa in {
typemaster;
filegrv.rev;
};

zone localhost in {
typemaster;
filelocal.zone;
};

zone 0.0.127.in-addr.arpa in {
typemaster;
filelocal.rev;
};

zone . {
typehint;
filenamed.root;
};
--
File grv.zone
$TTL3600
@   IN  SOA hanhnhu.local.  root.hanhnhu.local. (
212201  ; Selial
10800   ; Refresh 3 hours
3600; Retry 1 hour
360 ; Expire 1000 hours
86400   ; Minimum 24 hours
)

IN  NS  hanhnhu.local.
IN  A   192.168.0.1

; hosts
localhost   IN  A   127.0.0.1
windows1IN  A   192.168.0.253
windows2IN  A   192.168.0.254

; aliases
www IN  CNAME   hanhnhu.local.
ftp IN  CNAME   hanhnhu.local.
mailIN  CNAME   hanhnhu.local.
-
File grv.rev:
$TTL3600
@   IN  SOA hanhnhu.local.  root.hanhnhu.local. (
212201  ; Selial
10800   ; Refresh 3 hours
3600; Retry 1 hour
360 ; Expire 1000 hours
86400   ; Minimum 24 hours
)
IN  NS  hanhnhu.local.
; hosts
1   IN  PTR hanhnhu.local.
253 IN  PTR windows1.hanhnhu.local.  
254 IN  PTR windows2.hanhnhu.local.

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RE: CD Audio on D975XBX2 mobo

2007-12-01 Thread jvk-list

   [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
I bought the board without looking at the audio parts, because
   every
board has a CD in port. Turns out this one doesn't, it uses digital
CD Audio and doesn't use the connector anymore
   
   ([1][2]http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/sb/CS-014753.
   htm
). Are there any options for playing CDs with FBSD on this board? I
can rip the disk to MP3, then play that; but are there any ways to
just play the disk?
   
   
   As long as you can rip it to mp3, you should be able to play it with
   e.g. vlc or any other cd player.
   Rg, Tino

   I figured that would work, was kind of wondering if there were any
   players that would play directly from the CD reading the digital data
   instead of through the analog audio output.



   Joe.

References

   1. 
http://email.secureserver.net/pcompose.php?aEmlPart=0type=replyallfolder=INBOX.Freebsd-Questionsuid=18921#Compose
   2. http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/sb/CS-014753.htm
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Re: System Reboots with Bittorrent Use

2007-12-01 Thread Jonathan Chen
On Sat, Dec 01, 2007 at 10:14:27PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 07:48:20 +1300
 From: Jonathan Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
  I have since reformatted my computer.  I began using deluge
  again a couple weeks ago, but am again experiencing
  spontaneous reboots, now when using deluge (I don't have
  rtorrent installed).  I don't get any message in
  /var/logs/messages (is there a way to make the computer log
  more?  Are there other logs I should check?).  In general the
  file system needs to be cleaned after the reboot.
 
 There's a bug in the kernel with 6-STABLE with Bittorrent
 clients that
 use multiple threads. This includes the latest deluge and azureus
 ports. I've filed a PR for this:
 
 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=117717
 
 but it's been getting no love from the developers. You could try
 poking freebsd-stable@ for help.
 
 Thanks a lot, that sounds like it could very well be the
 problem.  I don't think it's a physical hardware problem,
 because I have no problem using bittorrent in Windows, and the
 behavior went away (previously) when switching from rTorrent
 to an older version of Deluge.
 
 I don't think I have the dmesg from after the crash anymore --
 I don't want to replicate it because I'm kind of worried that
 something will go terribly wrong with the disk...
 
 Is there a bittorrent client someone would like to recommend?

If you could downgrade to deluge-0.5.5, that was the last one that
worked.

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