Anyone have Comcast for an ISP?

[Allen]

Does anyone on here have comcast for an ISP? I use them and today I was
messing around on a machine I use for FTP service over my LAN (Not
accessible from the net so I'm not worried about using it for back ups)
and anyway, I wanted to set up one of my comcast accounts on it so I
could do as I've done for years, and use SSH to log into that machine
and use fetchmail to grab my email off comcast, and then use Mutt to
check it since I really like Mutt.

Well, I got sendmail up ad tested that ti was working and it was working
fine. After that I tried sending a test email with Mutt.

For some reason ti failed even though it was the backed up copy of my
Muttrc that I used to use on EVERY machine I used mutt on. I always
backed it up because I had it looking really nice with colors and also
my email address was in there and I built in a mini addy book for my
friends and mailing lists I'm on so I didn't have to worry about an
address book being deleted by accident.

Well, it failed horribly. I can't send an email because it's blocked,
and also, using fetchmail isn't exactly working either and I can't stand
how getmailrc works

So does anyone here use Comcast and Mutt for an email client that could
maybe reply and let me know how they do it? Id' like to use Mutt and
also I do like how simple fetchmail is to use, so fi you use these and
have Comcast for internet please reply with how you did it. I'm googling
right now but everything I find isn't exactly helpful, so if anyone here
uses Mutt and has Comcast please let me know how you did it.

Thanks much,

-Allen

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Re: /var/named Changes Ownership to Root on Boot

[Ian Smith]

In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 207, Issue 18, Message: 6
On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 08:54:36 -0500
   Martin McCormick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 >  I think I fixed it but I am not sure I would have
 > figured it out quickly without the help from the list.
 > 
 >  It seems that FreeBSD defaults to a chroot of bind with
 > the tree owned by root. You can run bind in a sandbox as the
 > documentation says and have it chroot but if you do, and heres's
 > the confusion, you had better disable FreeBSD's attempt to make
 > sure the /var/named tree is always owned by root which would be
 > fine if named ran as root.

I'm sorry, but you seem a tad confused about how named operates in
sandbox mode.  A thorough study of /etc/rc.d/named might help .. at
least, that's how I figured out how the whole chroot setup works. 

As Chuck Swiger pointed out, quoted below, it's only necessary (and for
security, desirable) for the =subdirectories= of /var/named/var to be
owned bind:wheel, not /var/named, nor /var/named/etc with the exception
of a couple of directories.  All this is setup (on each /etc/rc.d/named
start) by:

  mtree -deU -f /etc/mtree/BIND.chroot.dist -p ${named_chrootdir}

where /etc/mtree/BIND.chroot.dist is, on my 5.5-STABLE(ish) system:

# $FreeBSD: src/etc/mtree/BIND.chroot.dist,v 1.5.2.2 2004/11/11 04:08:16 
gshapiro Exp $
[..]

/set type=dir uname=root gname=wheel mode=0755
.
dev mode=0555
..
etc
namedb
dynamic uname=bind
..
master
..
slave   uname=bind
..
..
..
/set type=dir uname=bind gname=wheel mode=0755
var uname=root
dump
..
log
..
run
named
..
..
stats
..
..
..

 >  When you run it in a sandbox with a lower-priority UID,
 > you must make sure that at least one more little line appears in
 > rc.conf.local.
 > 
 > named_chrootdir=""   # Chroot directory (or "" not to auto-chroot it)

No, that STOPS named running in a chroot sandbox.  Which is fine if you
want to run it the old (considered insecure) way; is that what you want?

 > That's the key right there. If you use lines from rc.conf.local
 > from an older system such as pre-FreeBSD5, you don't need that
 > line and things work fine. If you don't have it on a FreeBSD5 or
 > newer system,
 > /etc/defaults/rc.conf supplies the default version of that line
 > which reads:
 > 
 > named_chrootdir="/var/named" # Chroot directory (or "" not to auto-chroot it)

That's right, and what you need to run it in the sandbox.

 > and one is seriously messed up from there on during the booting
 > process.

how 'messed up'?  That's how it's supposed to work.  You're supposed to
do bind configuration (/var/named/etc/namedb/named.conf etc) as root.

Ah, you might still have /etc/namedb as a directory, rather than a
symlink, if you'd done a source upgrade from 4.X to 5 or later?  If so,
(save and) delete it and let /etc/rc.d/named make the symlink for you,
then move your config to /var/named/etc/namedb

 >  I was confused and thought this would all help me keep
 > ownership of /var/named belonging to bind when, in fact, it does
 > just the opposite.

The whole point of the sandbox is to keep named, running as user bind,
from messing with anything out of its chroot environment if it were to
be compromised.  The actual chroot is performed in run_rc_command() in
/etc/rc.subr if you want to see the gorier details. 

 > Martin McCormick WB5AGZ  Stillwater, OK 
 > Systems Engineer
 > OSU Information Technology Department Network Operations Group
 > 
 > Chuck Swiger writes:
 > >/var/named is owned by root on all of my newer (5.x and later)  
 > >systems; I found an old 4.11 box with it owned by bind, though.  If  
 > >you're using named chroot'ed (as recommended), it will want /var/named/ 
 > >var/{dump/log/run/stats} writable by bind.

Yep, which is exactly what the mtree above does for you, every startup,
plus the dynamic and slave directories in (chrooted) /etc/namedb

The only problem I've struck with the chroot setup is a permission error
when trying to get debug (named.run) logging going, as named by default
wants to create the named.run file in the default directory (/etc/namedb
-> /var/named/etc/namedb) which is of course owned by root, but I'm sure
I just need to spend a bit more time with the reference manual:

 http://127.0.0.1/bind9ref/Bv9ARM.html

(where /usr/local/www/data/bind9ref -> /usr/local/share/doc/bind9/arm/)

to find out how to get this log made in /var/log ie /var/named/var/log
- but I'll wait till I've upgraded to 6.3 before trying that again.

cheers, Ian

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"Mutex unlock failure" when compiling KDE (upgrade from 6.x)

[RCL]

Hi,

I'm having the same troubles as Leslie Jensen when compiling KDE (or
anything that uses uic, e.g. amarok):
compile process stucks with the following message:

Mutex unlock failure: Operation not permitted

I found out that the problem was already being investigated here on
the list, but no solution has yet been proposed :(
If it helps, I performed the steps that Mel asked to perform and
here's the log file of Qt build process:

http://rcl.mine.nu/outbound/freebsd/qt-copy-3.3.8_6.log.tar.gz

The actual command that is used to link uic is:
c++ -fno-exceptions  -Wl,-rpath,/usr/local/lib
-Wl,-rpath,/usr/local/lib -pthread -o ../../../bin/uic
.obj/release-shared-mt/main.
o  .obj/release-shared-mt/uic.o  .obj/release-shared-mt/form.o
.obj/release-shared-mt/object.o  .obj/release-shared-mt/subclassing
.o  .obj/release-shared-mt/embed.o
.obj/release-shared-mt/widgetdatabase.o
.obj/release-shared-mt/domtool.o  .obj/release-shared-
mt/parser.o-L/usr/local/lib
-L/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/qt33/work/qt-x11-free-3.3.8/lib
-L/usr/local/lib -lqt-mt -lmng -ljpeg -lp
ng -lz -lXi -lXrender -lXrandr -lXcursor -lXinerama -lXft -lfreetype
-lfontconfig -lXext -lX11 -lm -lSM -lICE

There's no file libpthread.* in /usr/local/lib. These are
libpthread.so/a files I have:

# ls -la `locate libpthread.{a,so}`
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel  19 Feb 29 13:57
/usr/compat/linux/lib/libpthread.so.0 -> libpthread-2.3.6.so
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel  18 Feb 29 13:57
/usr/compat/linux/lib/obsolete/linuxthreads/libpthread.so.0 ->
libpthread-0.10.so
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   8 Feb 29 12:21 /usr/lib/libpthread.a -> libthr.a
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel  136020 Feb 29 16:16
/usr/local/lib/compat/libpthread.so.1
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   43284 Oct 17 00:52
/usr/local/lib/valgrind/libpthread.so
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  13 Oct 17 00:52
/usr/local/lib/valgrind/libpthread.so.2 -> libpthread.so

I upgraded the system nearly a month ago (On 29th Feb) and since then
I cannot build any KDE application (not even rebuild kde base/lib
ports themselves).
Upgrade procedure I used is described here:
http://www.daemonology.net/blog/2007-11-11-freebsd-major-version-upgrade.html

I hope the information provided will help further investigate the
problem. I don't want to reinstall the system, that feels like a
solution from Windows world :-)

Best regards,
Dmitry RCL Rekman

Mel wrote:

> Nope. But I would be interested to see what the line is that compiles uic. And
> what configure produces.
>
> I still think there's something '6.x-ish' going on here, but without knowing
> how uic gets built, it's anyone's guess.
>
> Could you try the following:
> cd /usr/ports/x11/qt33
> make clean
> mkdir /var/log/portbuilds
> make build >/var/log/portbuilds/`make -V PKGNAME`.log 2>&1
> make -V CONFIGURE_ARGS >> /var/log/portbuilds/`make -V PKGNAME`.log
> cat `make -V WRKSRC`/config.log \
>   >>/var/log/portbuilds/`make -V PKGNAME`.log
>
> Then put that log up somewhere if you have webspace, or try to find references
> to '-pthread', 'libpthread', 'libthr' and the final link command that makes
> uic.
>
> It's probably some setting you have or some stray library that causes this and
> until you get it resolved, you can't trust any threaded application you build
> from ports. Or, it's specific for qt, but I highly doubt that.
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Re: List replies

[Jonathan McKeown]

On Saturday 22 March 2008 06:33, Da Rock wrote:
> On Fri, 2008-03-21 at 22:38 -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote:
> > --On March 22, 2008 1:10:40 PM +1000 Da Rock
> >
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Sat, 2008-03-22 at 02:58 +0100, Erik Trulsson wrote:
> > >> On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 10:35:57AM +1000, Da Rock wrote:
> > >> > This may have been suggested or discussed before, but is there a
> > >> > reason why the reply-to on this list isn't the list itself instead
> > >> > of the person who posted? Ie reply-to: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > >>
> > >> Because many people who ask questions here are not subscribed to the
> > >> list and thus would not see any answers that were sent only to the
> > >> list.
> > >
> > > Well that certainly explains it, but it does surprise me. I thought
> > > you'd have to subscribe to post.
> >
> > And *I* thought it was proper etiquette to only reply to the list.
>
> Me too.

This discussion takes place regularly on every mailing list in existence. The 
main arguments against it seem to be that a) it might trash an existing 
reply-to header and make it impossible to send an individual reply; b) in the 
event of user error it fails safely - list reply ends up going to an 
individual - rather than the potentially catastrophic 
private-reply-to-publically-archived-mailing-list failure. Google for 
reply-to munging considered harmful for more argument on both sides.

As regards copying the original recipients, this list specifically requests 
it: check the regular posting titled ``how to get best results from 
freebsd-questions'', particularly para VII.6.

Jonathan
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Re: virtual machine software

[Da Rock]

On Fri, 2008-03-21 at 23:37 -0400, Jim Stapleton wrote:
> I need to get a VM work for XP. I tried QEmu, but XP wouldn't install.
> I wouldn't mind VMWare, but I want to run it under trial first if
> possible.
> 
> Any documents/suggestions that anyone can point me to?

I'm not certain that it is ported yet, but you can build vmware - to get
xp on vmware you'll need server though.

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[Fwd: Re: List replies]

[Da Rock]

--- Begin Message ---

On Fri, 2008-03-21 at 23:24 -0400, Robert Huff wrote:
> Da Rock writes:
> 
> >  > Because many people who ask questions here are not subscribed to the
> >  > list and thus would not see any answers that were sent only to the list.
> >  
> >  Well that certainly explains it, but it does surprise me. I thought
> >  you'd have to subscribe to post.
> 
>   I believe that has been considered and rejected, on the grounds
> this is the list most likely to be found by novices and it should
> present the only the absolutely necessary number of hoops.
> 
> 
>   Robert Huff

Fair enough, but is it necessary on all the lists for freebsd?
--- End Message ---
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Re: List replies

[Da Rock]

On Fri, 2008-03-21 at 22:38 -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote:
> --On March 22, 2008 1:10:40 PM +1000 Da Rock 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >
> > On Sat, 2008-03-22 at 02:58 +0100, Erik Trulsson wrote:
> >> On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 10:35:57AM +1000, Da Rock wrote:
> >> > This may have been suggested or discussed before, but is there a
> >> > reason why the reply-to on this list isn't the list itself instead of
> >> > the person who posted? Ie reply-to: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> >>
> >> Because many people who ask questions here are not subscribed to the
> >> list and thus would not see any answers that were sent only to the list.
> >
> > Well that certainly explains it, but it does surprise me. I thought
> > you'd have to subscribe to post.
> >
> 
> And *I* thought it was proper etiquette to only reply to the list.

Me too.

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virtual machine software

[Jim Stapleton]

I need to get a VM work for XP. I tried QEmu, but XP wouldn't install.
I wouldn't mind VMWare, but I want to run it under trial first if
possible.

Any documents/suggestions that anyone can point me to?

Thanks,
-Jim Stapleton
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Re: List replies

[Paul Schmehl]

--On March 22, 2008 1:10:40 PM +1000 Da Rock 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




On Sat, 2008-03-22 at 02:58 +0100, Erik Trulsson wrote:

On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 10:35:57AM +1000, Da Rock wrote:
> This may have been suggested or discussed before, but is there a
> reason why the reply-to on this list isn't the list itself instead of
> the person who posted? Ie reply-to: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org

Because many people who ask questions here are not subscribed to the
list and thus would not see any answers that were sent only to the list.


Well that certainly explains it, but it does surprise me. I thought
you'd have to subscribe to post.



And *I* thought it was proper etiquette to only reply to the list.

Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Senior Information Security Analyst
The University of Texas at Dallas
http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/

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Re: How to uninstall a flash port.

[Eduardo Cerejo]

> I installed the Linux flash9 port on a new 7.0 box to work with 
> SeaMonkey and it dies when it reaches flash using sites.
> 
> How can I de-install this port with out causing problems to other programs?
> 
> I cant find it in the  handbook how to's.   Im I missing something?
> 
> Thanks...

If you are using the portupgrade tools you can use pkg_deinstall 
linux-flashplugin
if not use make deinstall or pkg_delete  but you have to specify the registered 
name in /var/db/pkg/ just run pkg_info pkg_info | grep linux-flashplugin and it 
should give you the registered name.
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Re: List replies

[Robert Huff]

Da Rock writes:

>  > Because many people who ask questions here are not subscribed to the
>  > list and thus would not see any answers that were sent only to the list.
>  
>  Well that certainly explains it, but it does surprise me. I thought
>  you'd have to subscribe to post.

I believe that has been considered and rejected, on the grounds
this is the list most likely to be found by novices and it should
present the only the absolutely necessary number of hoops.


Robert Huff

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RE: Console Random Text

[Tamouh H.]

 

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Andy Christianson
> Sent: March 21, 2008 7:28 PM
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Console Random Text
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
>  
> 
> I am having a very strange problem. My sever stopped 
> responding in SSH.
> At the time,
> 
> a co-worker said he was importing a MySQL database from a USB 
> drive mounted as ext2fs.
> 
>  
> 
> I went back to check on the console, and it was scrolling 
> *EXTREMELY* quickly with
> 
> apparently random text (it could have said something, but it 
> was too fast to read). 
> 
>  
> 
> I could not switch to another virtual console. It would not 
> respond to any keyboard input.
> 
>  
> 
> Oddly enough, the machine was still responding to ICMP.
> 
>  
> 
> Does anyone have ANY clues as to what this could be? This is 
> a server that an entire
> 
> Company runs on, so it's really important that I find out 
> what is causing this.
> 
> 
>  
> 
> -Andy
> 

If it looks like it is online, but no services respond then it could be a bad 
backplane or corrupted RAID. From personal experience.

Tamouh


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Re: List replies

[Da Rock]

On Sat, 2008-03-22 at 02:58 +0100, Erik Trulsson wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 10:35:57AM +1000, Da Rock wrote:
> > This may have been suggested or discussed before, but is there a reason
> > why the reply-to on this list isn't the list itself instead of the
> > person who posted? Ie reply-to: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> 
> Because many people who ask questions here are not subscribed to the
> list and thus would not see any answers that were sent only to the list.

Well that certainly explains it, but it does surprise me. I thought
you'd have to subscribe to post.


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RE: Console Random Text

[The-IRC Hosting Administration Team]

I have been having the same problem with a 6.3 server but without random
text.

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How to uninstall a flash port.

[Robert Huff]

Al Plant writes:

>  I installed the Linux flash9 port on a new 7.0 box to work with 
>  SeaMonkey and it dies when it reaches flash using sites.
>  
>  How can I de-install this port with out causing problems to other
>  programs?

> cd 
> made deinstall

or use pkh_deinstall.


Robert Huff



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How to uninstall a flash port.

[Al Plant]

Aloha Gurus,

I installed the Linux flash9 port on a new 7.0 box to work with 
SeaMonkey and it dies when it reaches flash using sites.


How can I de-install this port with out causing problems to other programs?

I cant find it in the  handbook how to's.   Im I missing something?

Thanks...



~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii -  Phone:  808-284-2740
 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + 
 + http://aloha50.net   - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* - 8.* +

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Re: List replies

[Erik Trulsson]

On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 10:35:57AM +1000, Da Rock wrote:
> This may have been suggested or discussed before, but is there a reason
> why the reply-to on this list isn't the list itself instead of the
> person who posted? Ie reply-to: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org

Because many people who ask questions here are not subscribed to the
list and thus would not see any answers that were sent only to the list.




-- 

Erik Trulsson
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Console Random Text

[Andy Christianson]

Hello everyone,

 

I am having a very strange problem. My sever stopped responding in SSH.
At the time,

a co-worker said he was importing a MySQL database from a USB drive
mounted as ext2fs.

 

I went back to check on the console, and it was scrolling *EXTREMELY*
quickly with

apparently random text (it could have said something, but it was too
fast to read). 

 

I could not switch to another virtual console. It would not respond to
any keyboard input.

 

Oddly enough, the machine was still responding to ICMP.

 

Does anyone have ANY clues as to what this could be? This is a server
that an entire

Company runs on, so it's really important that I find out what is
causing this.

 

Thanks in advance! This FreeBSD community is the friendliest one I've
found yet.

 

-Andy

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Card readers

[Da Rock]

I have mentioned this before in other threads, but it appears it
requires a thread of its own.

I have a laptop with a card reader built in which I have never been able
to get to work. Everything I have looked up regarding these has to do
with usb versions, and other than the laptops my card readers are usb so
this shouldn't be a problem.

In the laptops I have a texas instruments PCI card reader though, which
gives me a real headache. I can't seem to get them to operate at all, so
I'm left wondering about drivers and such. These are the specs:

Mass storage controller: Texas Instruments PCIxx21 Integrated FlashMedia
Controller
02:09.4 SD Host controller: Texas Instruments
PCI6411/6421/6611/6621/7411/7421/7611/7621 Secure Digital Controller

I'm currently running Fedora (which seems to work), but I'd like to move
over to FreeBSD as soon as I can get all the features needed on these. I
seem to be making headway on most of these, so here's hoping.

The card reader is capable of reading nearly all format cards, including
xD which is a main reason why I'd like to get it to work.

Any links and info would be very appreciated.

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List replies

[Da Rock]

This may have been suggested or discussed before, but is there a reason
why the reply-to on this list isn't the list itself instead of the
person who posted? Ie reply-to: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org

Curious...

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Re: removable devices auto umounting

[Da Rock]

On Fri, 2008-03-21 at 16:21 +0100, Tijl Coosemans wrote:
> >> On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 11:55:32AM +1000, Da Rock wrote:
> >>> I'm just looking into the removable device issue for freebsd. I can
> >>> see its easy enough to auto mount a removable device (although I
> >>> could use some help getting sd/xd devices working with my card
> >>> reader), but the removal seems to come unstuck.
> >>> 
> >>> I have some barely literates on my systems, so I do need to work
> >>> this out. Is it possible to use a forced umount to do this? What
> >>> are the options here?
> 
> In KDE (same for GNOME and such I figure), removable devices like usb
> keys, cameras, cd/dvd are automounted and appear on the desktop.
> Using the right-click popup menu you can "Safely remove" or "Eject"
> them.
> 
> For this to work, you need to have sysutils/hal installed and configure
> x11/kdebase3 to enable hal support (this is the default).
> 
> Then you need to give users permission to access necessary devices.
> It's best to create a separate group for that like plugdev and then
> add users to this group. To give a plugdev group access to devices
> create/edit the file /etc/devfs.rules to contain:
> 
> --- begin /etc/devfs.rules ---
> [local_ruleset=10]
> #allow plugdev to access the CAM subsystem (required for cd/dvd burning and 
> usb mass storage)
> add path xpt0 user root group plugdev mode 0660
> add path 'pass*' user root group plugdev mode 0660
> #only allow root for specific fixed SCSI drives if any
> #add path pass0 user root group operator mode 0660
> #add path pass1 user root group operator mode 0660
> #...
> 
> #allow plugdev to access the cdrom
> add path cd0 user root group plugdev mode 0660
> 
> #allow plugdev to access usb mass storage
> add path 'da*' user root group plugdev mode 0660
> #only allow root for specific fixed SCSI drives if any
> #add path 'da0*' user root group operator mode 0660
> #add path 'da1*' user root group operator mode 0660
> #...
> 
> #allow plugdev to access generic usb devices (cameras/mp3 players using 
> libusb)
> add path 'usb*' user root group plugdev mode 0660
> add path 'ugen*' user root group plugdev mode 0660
> --- end /etc/devfs.rules ---
> 
> (You don't need anything special in /etc/devfs.conf. If you've put
> stuff there to get cd burning working for normal users, you can
> remove it. (permission for cd,xpt,pass devices))
> 
> In /etc/rc.conf then make sure you have these lines:
> 
> dbus_enable="YES"
> devfs_system_ruleset="local_ruleset"
> hald_enable="YES"
> polkitd_enable="YES"
> 
> And finally, give plugdev access to hal by editing
> /usr/local/etc/dbus-1/system.d/hal.conf
> At the end of that file it says:
> 
>   
>   
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
> On the second line above, change "operator" to "plugdev".
> 
> Then make sure you have a /var/media directory and /media linking to it
> and nothing related to removable devices in /etc/fstab (including cdrom).
> Reboot your system and if I didn't miss anything, any user in the
> plugdev group should be able to use removable devices quite easily.

Thanks for that- I was just looking into that from the Project Utopia
article. Just a couple of things-

1. You still have to click eject before removing the device. Is there a
way to skip this and just remove the device?

2. The D-Bus system only works with an X wm doesn't it?

I know it seems contrary, but is there a way I can set this up so that
it will work from a standard tty? The amd system appears to allow this,
but it does have its faults as well.

Consider this theory: IF the X windows system is running- D-Bus and all-
can other background daemons use this system? I guess they wouldn't need
to concern themselves with this problem as the X windows will be taking
care of it automatically.

Another thought: do all wm's use the D-Bus? Or is it only kde and gnome?

Thanks for being a sounding board guys.

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Re: smbfs CIFS

[Darren Spruell]

On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 12:40 PM, Wojciech Puchar
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> isn't SMB and CIFS the same?

Superficially, although there are differences in the protocols. CIFS
descended from the original SMB specification and adds to it.

Hence, why e.g. in Linux you find separate module support for cifs and smbfs.

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uscanner and ugen drivers questions

[Predrag Punosevac]

Dear All,

I was playing with various scanners and all-in-one devices on FreeBSD 
(probably 6-7 different scanners and all-in-one
devices) and I noticed that the range of scanners supported on FreeBSD 
is far smaller than that of sane-backends.
This is due to the fact that there is no standard device class for USB 
scanners.
Therefore for instance uscanner driver will only recognise devices whose 
USB IDs are explicitly listed in the table in the driver itself. 
Parallel port scanners and all-in-one devices are even in worse shape 
due to the limitation of lpt driver but they can be considered 
semi-obsolete so I didn't even bother to play with them.


I was wondering if anybody has tried manually to add the device and the 
vendor ID to uscanner.c and recompile the kernel. Will that work. In 
particular last night I played little bit with Epscon CX3810 all-in-one 
which I got for $5.
The device is recognized as /dev/ulpt0 and is usable as a printer with 
the Gutenprint driver. If I remove ulpt and umass
driver from the kernel the device is seen as ulpt but sane-find-scanner 
list it as Unknown device.
I tried to edit /usr/local/etc/sane.d/epson.conf and add the vendor name 
and the product ID but the scanner is not responsive. The CX3810 is 
fully supported by Epson and Epson2 backend and works out of box on Ubuntu.



Did anybody play with these things at all or people are using just a few 
usable devices ( I have couple of working scanners on FreeBSD for instance)?


Another question. Is it possible to unload driver from the kernel 
without recompiling it like on OpenBSD

with config utility.

Cheers,
Predrag
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Re: my brother is making me learn FreeBSD...

[Chad Perrin]

On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 08:57:01AM -0700, mdh wrote:
> It's been my experience that finding drivers for
> hardware created for open source operating systems by
> developers within the communities is quite easy, while
> such community doesn't exist for windows and you are
> 100% reliant on the vendor to supply working drivers. 
> If they supply crap drivers, go out of business and
> stop providing any, etc, you are simply out of luck,
> while with an open source model it is likely that
> someone will have kept development going if the vendor
> ever even did produce drivers for those systems. 
> There's very little in the way of modern hardware that
> isn't supported by FreeBSD.  The one time I ever ran
> into unsupported hardware, a quick update of -STABLE
> brought the necessary support in the driver.  
> 
> The fact is that political BS aside, for 90% of
> workers, FreeBSD/KDE/openoffice/firefox will meet
> their needs just as well as windows, and in fact if
> you start with something like PC-BSD

I think 90% is pessimistic, actually.  It's probably closer to 98%.

By the way, please don't top-post.  The freebsd-questions list is one of
those where I get to enjoy a "no top-posting" rule, and seeing
unnecessary top-posting kinda harshes my mellow here.

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Re: Replacing Windows with FreeBSD (was: my brother is making me learn FreeBSD...)

[Chad Perrin]

On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 01:01:35AM +0800, Gelsema, P (Patrick) wrote:
> On Fri, March 21, 2008 00:39, Chad Perrin wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 10:50:34AM +0100, Nejc Å koberne wrote:
> >>
> >> So you are saying that merely setting up an OpenLDAP server with proper
> >> DNS
> >> configuration and Kerberos authentication could replace Microsoft AD
> >> controller?
> >> How about a group of controllers with all the failover features? Group
> >> policies?
> >> Are you sure you could do that just with a "bit of tweaking"? If there
> >> are
> >> Microsoft
> >> specific features, than FreeBSD can't do anything Windows server does
> >> and
> >> more. I
> >> am really skeptic about joining a Vista into such a domain. I would
> >> really
> >> love to
> >> see ONE guy who achieves that. To _completely_ replace Windows server
> >> with
> >> all its
> >> features with FreeBSD Anyone?
> >
> > Full AD parity is expected with the release of Samba 4:
> >
> > http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-1035-6053709.html
> >
> > WINS capability is already available in ports with the samba4wins port,
> > by the way.
> >
> 
> WINS is required mostly for Browsing networks, Master browser selection
> and Netbios connections (the infamous 13x ports). However Microsoft is
> really trying to get rid of Netbios connections and only have made it
> available for backwards compatibility. If I aint mistaken port used for
> file connections is somewhere in the 400 range.
> 
> It is definitely not required for a full Windows Domain and for file-sharing.

True.  I'm just not sure how that's particularly relevant to what I said.


> 
> > In addition to that, as I pointed out in another email, FreeBSD can
> > *easily* provide all the same functionality -- though MS Windows clients
> > may not support all the necessary protocols and client applications
> > needed to take full advantage of that functionality in some cases.  In
> > fact, FreeBSD supports software that does a far better job of being a
> > server or client in an MS Windows network than MS Windows does of being a
> > server or client in a BSD Unix network.
> 
> 

I'm sorry . . . does that mean anything?  You've lost me.


> >
> >> The most important thing: we are talking about ordinary users not a
> >> bunch of
> >> math professors who want to run every application from a shell. And
> >> those
> >> users
> >> want to use things nicely. For example, let's look at the mail system.
> >> You
> >> could
> >> put a Postfix+amavisd-new+spamassassin+Horde+postfixadmin+ ... bla bla
> >> stuff on
> >> your FreeBSD server (I actually run this on many servers). But in that
> >> webmail,
> >> you are not able to manage your spam quarantine for example - you have
> >> to
> >> logout
> >> of Horde and login to Maia Mailguard (before you have to install that
> >> too),
> >> which
> >> is complicated for users. The problem of "mail" is then cut to so many
> >> little
> >> pieces that it may affect user efficiency. The problem with
> >> concatenating
> >> so many
> >> opensource products is that it is hard to make them work together like a
> >> charm.
> >> Microsoft usually (!) provides that (naturally, because it produces all
> >> those
> >> pieces).
> >
> > You don't have to run everything from a shell with FreeBSD.  What do you
> > think this is -- 1994?  Even manpages can be accessed with a GUI
> > application.
> >
> > Microsoft does *not* provide everything people need.  When someone uses a
> > piece of software that isn't produced by Microsoft, chances are good that
> > any MS software will have been designed specifically to make it difficult
> > to interoperate.  Meanwhile, a lot of open source software interoperates
> > very well.  Sure, if you limit yourself to nothing but MS software, you
> > might get really good integration -- but that's at the cost of reduced
> > security (thanks to lack of privilege separation and the ubiquitous use
> > of IE's rendering engine for pretty much every single application
> > Microsoft produces) and refusing to use a lot of software that Microsoft
> > doesn't offer.
> >
> 
> I find it really hard to change, finetune settings on windows. Changing
> default ports eg. The standard tools provided are limited and there is no
> default. THink about netsh and net commands.

Funny . . . I don't seem to have these problems.  Have you asked for help
here?


> 
> Also security wise. You need to give more permissions to an account to do
> something than you should on Freebsd. Chrooted applications for instance.

Say what?

. . . as opposed to MS Windows, where about 50% of what someone needs to
do on a given day requires escalation to administrative permissions?


> >>
> >> I really am a FreeBSD guy, I run it for more than 6 years now and I like
> >> it
> >> a lot.
> >> But I learned to be reasonable and not to say that it is in every way
> >> superior to
> >> everything else in the world.
> >
> > When did anyone say that FreeBSD was "in every way superior to

Re: mtree

[Robert Huff]

Lowell Gilbert writes:

>  In the "EXAMPLES" section of its manual, there is a formula for
>  how to "create an /etc/mtree style BSD.*.dist file" which is the
>  first half of what you want.

I saw that ...

>   Offhand, I think "mtree -U" is enough to mash
>  everything back to the way the original specification described.

... but somehow missed this.  (*WHAP*)

Thanks to Lowell and Kris.


Robert Huff

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Re: my brother is making me learn FreeBSD...

[Chad Perrin]

On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 06:29:09PM +0100, Zbigniew Szalbot wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> 2008/3/20, Nerius Landys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > You could make it a video game server.  That's why I set up a FreeBSD
> >  server.  I run games/iourbanterror, but there are other games you could 
> > run.
> 
> And could FreeBSD be used to become a streaming internet radio
> station? Has anyone been doing something like that? I am very
> interested to hear and hopefully it is still within the topic here...

Technically speaking: Easily.

Legally speaking: That depends on who's going to be listening to it.  Of
course, the same is true of any other OS that could server as a
"streaming internet radio station".

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completely programmed and working smoothly, it is completely honest."
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Re: my brother is making me learn FreeBSD...

[Chad Perrin]

On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 11:40:53AM -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 11:32:08PM -0800, Donald Laniohan wrote:
> 
> > My task is to build a BSD server and do something with it. That is all the
> > information he gave me, that, and any questions I have to make Google my
> > best friend, which I have. i remember building my first whitebox, it was a
> > 386 with windows 3.1. I remember when I built my 486 and stole a copy of
> > windows 95. I thought I was a savage. BSD, however, has showed me how
> > juvenile I have been. If I do not master BSD my brother is going to keep me
> > as a desktop support for his windows clients and I want to progress past
> > this. So he's giving me a 1u, and said to put BSD on it and make it do
> > something, im just so stuck in my windows comfort zone I can't think of what
> > I would need a unix server to that I couldn't make windows do for me. I know
> > this is trivial but if somebody could offer any suggestion or resource I,
> > and my career, would greatly appreciate it
> > 
> 
> Good for your brother.
> 
> First thing to do is get on the FreeBSD website:   http://www.freebsd.org/
> and start reading.Especially read the handbook and things about
> installing and setting up FreeBSD.
> 
> Then put some stuff on it, such as browser (Firefox, probably), 
> web server (Apache), office tools (OpenOffice) and maybe a few games
> from /usr/ports and learn to use those.   You might want to add
> database (MySQL), interpreter (Perl, PHP) and other stuff as needed.

Considering the purpose here is to build a server, I doubt Firefox,
OpenOffice.org, and games would really be appropriate at this time.


> 
> Have fun.  

I second the motion.

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Re: samba

[Werewolf]

Thanks for pointing that out
So attaching the smb.conf file from the
/usr/local/etc directory

uname -a
FreeBSD server.ZOO 5.4-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE #0: Sun May  8
10:21:06 UTC 2005
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386

smbstatus
Samba version 2.2.12
Service  uid  gid  pid machine
--
public   nobody   nobody   58932   jennifer (192.168.42.34) Fri Mar
21 18:00:24 2008

No locked files

Later


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Eduardo Cerejo wrote:
>> Hash: SHA1
>>
>> Greetings, I have a FreeBSD box i set up long ago as a file server
>>
>> has worked great till I had to get a better laptop with gfx card to keep
>> up with my SecondLife Addiction.  and now can't get the installed
>> Vista Os to connect to it.
>>
>> Help would be appreciated,
>>
>> running 5.4-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE #0 on the box
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>  Wolf
> 
> Don't know much about samba but placing your samba configuration file would 
> help many.
> 
# This is the main Samba configuration file. You should read the
# smb.conf(5) manual page in order to understand the options listed
# here. Samba has a huge number of configurable options (perhaps too
# many!) most of which are not shown in this example
#
# Any line which starts with a ; (semi-colon) or a # (hash) 
# is a comment and is ignored. In this example we will use a #
# for commentry and a ; for parts of the config file that you
# may wish to enable
#
# NOTE: Whenever you modify this file you should run the command "testparm"
# to check that you have not many any basic syntactic errors. 
#
#=== Global Settings =
[global]

# workgroup = NT-Domain-Name or Workgroup-Name, eg: REDHAT4
   workgroup = ZOO

# server string is the equivalent of the NT Description field
   server string = %h Samba Server

# This option is important for security. It allows you to restrict
# connections to machines which are on your local network. The

# following example restricts access to two C class networks and
# the "loopback" interface. For more examples of the syntax see
# the smb.conf man page
#hosts allow = 192.168.242. 127.0.0.1
hosts allow = 192.168.42. 127.0.0.1

# If you want to automatically load your printer list rather
# than setting them up individually then you'll need this
;   load printers = yes

# you may wish to override the location of the printcap file
;   printcap name = /etc/printcap

# on SystemV system setting printcap name to lpstat should allow
# you to automatically obtain a printer list from the SystemV spool
# system
;   printcap name = lpstat

# It should not be necessary to specify the print system type unless
# it is non-standard. Currently supported print systems include:
# bsd, sysv, plp, lprng, aix, hpux, qnx
;   printing = bsd

# Uncomment this if you want a guest account, you must add this to /etc/passwd
# otherwise the user "nobody" is used
;  guest account = pcguest

# this tells Samba to use a separate log file for each machine
# that connects
   log file = /var/log/log.%m

# Put a capping on the size of the log files (in Kb).
   max log size = 50

# Security mode. Most people will want user level security. See
# security_level.txt for details.
   security = user

# Use password server option only with security = server
# The argument list may include:
#   password server = My_PDC_Name [My_BDC_Name] [My_Next_BDC_Name]
# or to auto-locate the domain controller/s
#   password server = *
;   password server = 

# Note: Do NOT use the now deprecated option of "domain controller"
# This option is no longer implemented.

# You may wish to use password encryption. Please read
# ENCRYPTION.txt, Win95.txt and WinNT.txt in the Samba documentation.
# Do not enable this option unless you have read those documents
;  encrypt passwords = yes
encrypt passwords = yes

# Using the following line enables you to customise your configuration
# on a per machine basis. The %m gets replaced with the netbios name
# of the machine that is connecting
;   include = /usr/local/etc/smb.conf.%m

# Most people will find that this option gives better performance.
# See speed.txt and the manual pages for details
# You may want to add the following on a Linux system:
# SO_RCVBUF=8192 SO_SNDBUF=8192
   socket options = TCP_NODELAY 

# Configure Samba to use multiple interfaces
# If you have multiple network interfaces then you must list them
# here. See the man page for details.
;   interfaces = 192.168.12.2/24 192.168.13.2/24 

# Browser Control Options:
# set local master to no if you don't want Samba to become a ma

Re: How do I add search paths to gcc

[Chuck Robey]

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mdh wrote:
> --- Eduardo Cerejo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> My gcc is only looking in /usr/lib and /usr/include
>> for libraries and hearders and I added the paths
>> /usr/local/lib/ and /usr/local/include to my .cshrc
>> file:
>>
>> set path = (/sbin /bin /usr/sbin /usr/bin /usr/games
>> /usr/local/sbin /usr/local/bin /usr/local/lib
>> /usr/local/include $HOME/bin)
> 
> PATH in the environment is where your shell searches
> for programs to run from the command line, system(),
> etc.  This allows you to type, say, `sh` instead of
> having to type out `/bin/sh` or risking having
> `/home/somekiddie/sh` run instead when you type it.  
> 
>> but I still have to use gcc with -I and -L switch
>> for a program to compile or else it will fail.  
>>
>> I'm using tcsh.
> 
> There are two ways to set up alternate places to find
> libraries.  The first is ldconfig, and you can see
> ports run this when you install a port containing
> shared libraries for example.  The other is to use the
> LD_LIBRARY_PATH environment variable to set alternate
> paths at run-time.  
> 

Well, that might be taken as confusing, even though your info is technically
quite correct.  Both those methods WILL get those added dirs searched for
loading the libraries at run time, BUT it will NOT get your compiler to find the
new paths, when linking the program during the build.  I'm fairly sure that's
what the person wanted, don't you think so?

Because, if I'm wrong,  you can delete this email right here and now, read no 
more.

BUT you were quite correct, there are definitely *at least* two methods to set
up your *compiler* library search paths.  In fact, I think I can show you 3
methods right now.

First, you can list the full path of the library on the command line, when you
use your compiler to link your program.
]
Second, you can (as the person suggested himself) you can use the -l/-L options
to bring in libraries & paths.  The -L should come first, it adds the path, and
the -l afterwards adds the specific library.

The 3rd method is the use the variables LDFLAGS and LDADD.  These variables are
NOT 100% reliable to use, although they are fairly reliable on BSD systems.  The
 LDFLAGS is where  you put your "-LExtraPath" and the LDADD is where you stick
the -lExtraLibrary, like this (from a Makefile example):
LDFLAGS+=-L/usr/local
LDFLAGS+=-lgtk

If you are using the BSD make util, the you use "+=" to add to your variables,
instead of replacing them, in case they had some values in them to begin with.
"Make" automatically adds in the obvious spaces, so your definitions don't have
a train wreck for you.

> The 'ldconfig(1)' man page has more info for you.  
> 
> Take care, mdh
> 
> 
> 
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> 
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Re: help for a wounded disk drive...

[D Hill]

On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 at 08:47 +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] confabulated:


Hey William,

Was in a similar situation about a month ago.. I knew the drive was on its 
way out but once it went, i could not retrieve the data nor use it under 
freebsd even under a new system. My drive had physical issues.


I got the drive, stuck it in a 3.5inch usb enclosure and plugged it into a ms 
windows box.  Then I used a free proggy called ffsdrv which i found on 
sourceforge.


Snipit -->

It enables you to read BSD(FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD) FFS partitions on 
Windows 2000/XP/2003.

http://ffsdrv.sourceforge.net/

Managed to get all data off this way.


This is just what I was looking for to mount an FBSD drive on XP. Thanks! 
I was able to completely transfer all data from the drive just now.



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Re: help for a wounded disk drive...

[Ezat - Ezatech]

Hey William,

Was in a similar situation about a month ago.. I knew the drive was on 
its way out but once it went, i could not retrieve the data nor use it 
under freebsd even under a new system. My drive had physical issues.


I got the drive, stuck it in a 3.5inch usb enclosure and plugged it into 
a ms windows box.  Then I used a free proggy called ffsdrv which i found 
on sourceforge.


Snipit -->

It enables you to read BSD(FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD) FFS partitions on 
Windows 2000/XP/2003.

http://ffsdrv.sourceforge.net/

Managed to get all data off this way.

Ezat





William Bulley wrote:

I damaged a Seagate 80 GB EIDE drive that was attached to a FreeBSD 5.4
system (as ufs) some time ago, and I would like to recover the data on
this drive - if that is possible.  All positive suggestions are welcome.

The drive is mechanically and electrically good.  I just can't mount it
and use it under FreeBSD.  It was a dual boot drive with a DOS partition
on the first partition and FreeBSD 5.4 on partition two.  I did the normal
sysinstall for FreeBSD 5.5 as I had done many times before.  Unfortunately,
I had the older, FreeBSD 5.4 drive cabled up (and powered up) on the second
IDE channel (using cable select) of an i386 motherboard while I did the 5.5
install on a new, blank drive on the first IDE channel.

I told sysinstall to add the standard FreeBSD bootloader on the new drive.
I don't recall if I allowed for a DOS partition or just used the entire disk.
The FreeBSD 5.4 disk on the second IDE channel also had the standard FreeBSD
bootloader from my earlier sysinstall of 5.4 on that disk.

When I completed the install, I figured I could just mount the second (older)
drive manually.  When I tried to do this, things went from bad to worse, and
the new system could never recognize the drive.  I believe the installation
process attempted to (or succeeded in) putting (an unnecessary) bootloader on
the older drive.  Had it not been connected, it would probably be okay today.
I learned an important lesson at that time...

I don't know what steps to take to recover this drive so I can mount it in a
read-only mode.  I just want to recover the files on this drive.  It is very
small by today's standards, so I will likely not use the drive in production.

I am comfortable running any required shell commands (as root), but I don't
want to damage the disk drive any further.  I hope I don't have to resort to
using dd(1) on the raw device!  Thanks in advance for any pointers.

Regards,

web...

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Re: help for a wounded disk drive...

[Dimitri Yioulos]

On Friday 21 March 2008 1:39 pm, William Bulley wrote:
> I damaged a Seagate 80 GB EIDE drive that was attached to a FreeBSD 5.4
> system (as ufs) some time ago, and I would like to recover the data on
> this drive - if that is possible.  All positive suggestions are welcome.
>
> The drive is mechanically and electrically good.  I just can't mount it
> and use it under FreeBSD.  It was a dual boot drive with a DOS partition
> on the first partition and FreeBSD 5.4 on partition two.  I did the normal
> sysinstall for FreeBSD 5.5 as I had done many times before.  Unfortunately,
> I had the older, FreeBSD 5.4 drive cabled up (and powered up) on the second
> IDE channel (using cable select) of an i386 motherboard while I did the 5.5
> install on a new, blank drive on the first IDE channel.
>
> I told sysinstall to add the standard FreeBSD bootloader on the new drive.
> I don't recall if I allowed for a DOS partition or just used the entire
> disk. The FreeBSD 5.4 disk on the second IDE channel also had the standard
> FreeBSD bootloader from my earlier sysinstall of 5.4 on that disk.
>
> When I completed the install, I figured I could just mount the second
> (older) drive manually.  When I tried to do this, things went from bad to
> worse, and the new system could never recognize the drive.  I believe the
> installation process attempted to (or succeeded in) putting (an
> unnecessary) bootloader on the older drive.  Had it not been connected, it
> would probably be okay today. I learned an important lesson at that time...
>
> I don't know what steps to take to recover this drive so I can mount it in
> a read-only mode.  I just want to recover the files on this drive.  It is
> very small by today's standards, so I will likely not use the drive in
> production.
>
> I am comfortable running any required shell commands (as root), but I don't
> want to damage the disk drive any further.  I hope I don't have to resort
> to using dd(1) on the raw device!  Thanks in advance for any pointers.
>
> Regards,
>
> web...
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If it's just a matter of grabbing data off this drive, would a live rescue CD 
such as Reci=overy Is Possible be of help to you?

Dimitri

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Re: help for a wounded disk drive...

[Jerry McAllister]

On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 01:39:50PM -0400, William Bulley wrote:

> I damaged a Seagate 80 GB EIDE drive that was attached to a FreeBSD 5.4
> system (as ufs) some time ago, and I would like to recover the data on
> this drive - if that is possible.  All positive suggestions are welcome.
> 
> The drive is mechanically and electrically good.  I just can't mount it
> and use it under FreeBSD.  It was a dual boot drive with a DOS partition
> on the first partition and FreeBSD 5.4 on partition two.  I did the normal
> sysinstall for FreeBSD 5.5 as I had done many times before.  Unfortunately,
> I had the older, FreeBSD 5.4 drive cabled up (and powered up) on the second
> IDE channel (using cable select) of an i386 motherboard while I did the 5.5
> install on a new, blank drive on the first IDE channel.
> 
> I told sysinstall to add the standard FreeBSD bootloader on the new drive.
> I don't recall if I allowed for a DOS partition or just used the entire disk.
> The FreeBSD 5.4 disk on the second IDE channel also had the standard FreeBSD
> bootloader from my earlier sysinstall of 5.4 on that disk.
> 
> When I completed the install, I figured I could just mount the second (older)
> drive manually.  When I tried to do this, things went from bad to worse, and
> the new system could never recognize the drive.  I believe the installation
> process attempted to (or succeeded in) putting (an unnecessary) bootloader on
> the older drive.  Had it not been connected, it would probably be okay today.
> I learned an important lesson at that time...
> 
> I don't know what steps to take to recover this drive so I can mount it in a
> read-only mode.  I just want to recover the files on this drive.  It is very
> small by today's standards, so I will likely not use the drive in production.
> 
> I am comfortable running any required shell commands (as root), but I don't
> want to damage the disk drive any further.  I hope I don't have to resort to
> using dd(1) on the raw device!  Thanks in advance for any pointers.

Depends a little on what actually happened to it.   If you just smotched
the boot sector, it should be recoverable as a data disk.  

First, you need to find out as much as you can about the condition of the
disk.  For that, you will need to run  fdisk(8)  and then maybe bsdlabel(8)
to get information.

Presuming the system recognizes the drive as /dev/ad1
do:  
fdisk ad1

Look at what it tells you.   Most of it is just boilerplace verbiage, but
mixed in there should be some valuable information.   What you want to
find is how many slices are actually configured.   There can be up
to 4, numberes 1..4   If a slice is being used, it should have 
information about it, including size in sectors, what type, if it 
is bootable and if it is marked active for booting.   

Ignore the cylinders/tracks/sectors stuff.  Just look at the slice 
size in sectors/blocks.  The type will tell you if it is FreeBSD
formatted slice or Messy Dos.   FreeBSD is type 165 if I remember 
correctly.

If you can get this kind of information, then there should be enough
left to get more with bsdlabel and possibly even read data.  I don't
remember how far back FreeBSD switched from disklabel to bsdlabel.  They 
are functionally the same, so use whichever your FreeBSD version has.

If you find, for example a slice 2 that appears to be a FreeBSD slice,
then run bsdlabel as: 
baslabel ad1s2
and pay attention to how it is divided up into partitions in the table.
Ignore all the disk identifier stuff above that.  Just pay attention
to the stuff below the line that says '8 partitions'  where it
names a partition and gives size and offset.

If that gives some decent information, such as a partition 'a' with
some reasonable looking size and (hopefully) an offset of 0 and
maybe some other reasonable looking partitions and offsets (do not
muck with partitin c), then try running fsck on the partitions
you find.

fsck /dev/ad1s2a   for example.

It should come up with some complaints, but be able to fix them.

If so, create a mount point - something like:
mkdir /rootfix or whatever
and try to mount it
mount /dev/ad1s2a /rootfix

If, after the fsck, this works, cd to it and look around.

Then try this for any other slices+partitions you find that
claim to be FreeBSD type.

If this doesn't work, then you are in for a more difficult task.

jerry
   


> 
> Regards,
> 
> web...
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RE: Various X errors (difficult to see)

[Derek Ragona]

At 01:07 PM 3/21/2008, Luca Presotto wrote:
>>This error refers to the artsd daemon already running, or the system 
thinks this daemon is running.  You should open a terminal window and do:

>>ps -ax|grep -i art

>>and see if the artsd daemon is running or not.  If it is not, you may 
need to force it to start.


>I'll try that later!

If I do ps -ax etc...  I get:
 1185  ??  S  0:00.03 kdeinit: kdeinit: klauncher --new-startup (kdeinit)
 1187  ??  S  0:00.28 kdeinit: kdeinit: kded --new-startup (kdeinit)
 1206  ??  S  0:00.49 /usr/local/bin/artsd -F 10 -S 4096 -s 60 -m 
artsmessage -c drkonqi -l 3 -f

 1106  v0  I+ 0:00.00 /bin/sh /usr/local/bin/startx
 1131  v0  I  0:00.01 /bin/sh /usr/local/bin/startkde
 1328  p0  R+ 0:00.00 grep -i art

I think that 1206 is the right daemon and is correctly running. Correct?


Looks like the right daemon.  I wonder if your config files are trying to 
start it twice.


-Derek

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Re: mtree

[Lowell Gilbert]

Robert Huff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>   I know mtree can be used to describe a directory layout, and
> then to re-create that structure.  Is there a place where this is
> described?

I figured out everything I wanted to know from the manual page.  It's
a pretty good manual -- the reason it gives people trouble is just
that there are so *many* different things it can do.

In the "EXAMPLES" section of its manual, there is a formula for how to
"create an /etc/mtree style BSD.*.dist file" which is the first half
of what you want.  Offhand, I think "mtree -U" is enough to mash
everything back to the way the original specification described.

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Re: mtree

[Kris Kennaway]

Robert Huff wrote:

I know mtree can be used to describe a directory layout, and
then to re-create that structure.  Is there a place where this is
described?


Start with the manpage, I guess ;)  There are also examples in /etc/mtree.

Kris

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mtree

[Robert Huff]

I know mtree can be used to describe a directory layout, and
then to re-create that structure.  Is there a place where this is
described?
Respectfully,


Robert Huff



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Re: help for a wounded disk drive...

[Derek Ragona]

At 12:39 PM 3/21/2008, William Bulley wrote:

I damaged a Seagate 80 GB EIDE drive that was attached to a FreeBSD 5.4
system (as ufs) some time ago, and I would like to recover the data on
this drive - if that is possible.  All positive suggestions are welcome.

The drive is mechanically and electrically good.  I just can't mount it
and use it under FreeBSD.  It was a dual boot drive with a DOS partition
on the first partition and FreeBSD 5.4 on partition two.  I did the normal
sysinstall for FreeBSD 5.5 as I had done many times before.  Unfortunately,
I had the older, FreeBSD 5.4 drive cabled up (and powered up) on the second
IDE channel (using cable select) of an i386 motherboard while I did the 5.5
install on a new, blank drive on the first IDE channel.

I told sysinstall to add the standard FreeBSD bootloader on the new drive.
I don't recall if I allowed for a DOS partition or just used the entire disk.
The FreeBSD 5.4 disk on the second IDE channel also had the standard FreeBSD
bootloader from my earlier sysinstall of 5.4 on that disk.

When I completed the install, I figured I could just mount the second (older)
drive manually.  When I tried to do this, things went from bad to worse, and
the new system could never recognize the drive.  I believe the installation
process attempted to (or succeeded in) putting (an unnecessary) bootloader on
the older drive.  Had it not been connected, it would probably be okay today.
I learned an important lesson at that time...

I don't know what steps to take to recover this drive so I can mount it in a
read-only mode.  I just want to recover the files on this drive.  It is very
small by today's standards, so I will likely not use the drive in production.

I am comfortable running any required shell commands (as root), but I don't
want to damage the disk drive any further.  I hope I don't have to resort to
using dd(1) on the raw device!  Thanks in advance for any pointers.

Regards,

web...


If the mechanics and other workings are good, try testdisk at:
www.testdisk.org

-Derek

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Re: java plugin for Firefox on AMD64 running FreeBSD 6.3

[Dino Vliet]

Jung-uk Kim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Friday 21 March 2008 08:46 am, Dino 
Vliet wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> I'm lost at finding a solution for getting the java plugin to work
> in Firefox 2.11 on my AMD64 system running FreeBSD 6.3.
>
> I've upgraded my ports and the diablo-jdk version is:
> pkg_info | grep diablo
> diablo-jdk-1.5.0.07.01_9 Java Development Kit 1.5.0_07.01
>
> The handbook said I needed the JRE so I installed that as well:
>
> pkg_info | grep diablo
> diablo-jdk-1.5.0.07.01_9 Java Development Kit 1.5.0_07.01
> diablo-jre-1.5.0.07.01_9 Java Runtime Environment 1.5.0_07.01
>
> But now I need to do this in order to see the java plugin activated
> when I press about:plugins:
>
> # ln -s
> /usr/local/diablo-jre1.5.0/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so \
> /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/
>
> But I don't have a plugin directory in the
>   /usr/local/diablo-jre1.5.0 directory, so I won't have that file
> libjavaplugin_oji.so either.

diablo-jdk/-jre does not have Mozilla plugin for amd64.  You have to 
build *JDK* from ports with plugin support, i.e., ports/java/jdk15 or 
ports/java/jdk16.

Jung-uk Kim


Works Perfect:-)
I've installed jdk15 and the plugin worked immediately.
Thanks a lot, because this means I can continue using my FreeBSD desktop iso 
switching to a linux pc whenever I needed to work at home.

Ciao
Dino

   
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Re: How do I add search paths to gcc

[mdh]

--- Eduardo Cerejo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> My gcc is only looking in /usr/lib and /usr/include
> for libraries and hearders and I added the paths
> /usr/local/lib/ and /usr/local/include to my .cshrc
> file:
> 
> set path = (/sbin /bin /usr/sbin /usr/bin /usr/games
> /usr/local/sbin /usr/local/bin /usr/local/lib
> /usr/local/include $HOME/bin)

PATH in the environment is where your shell searches
for programs to run from the command line, system(),
etc.  This allows you to type, say, `sh` instead of
having to type out `/bin/sh` or risking having
`/home/somekiddie/sh` run instead when you type it.  

> 
> but I still have to use gcc with -I and -L switch
> for a program to compile or else it will fail.  
> 
> I'm using tcsh.

There are two ways to set up alternate places to find
libraries.  The first is ldconfig, and you can see
ports run this when you install a port containing
shared libraries for example.  The other is to use the
LD_LIBRARY_PATH environment variable to set alternate
paths at run-time.  

The 'ldconfig(1)' man page has more info for you.  

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How do I add search paths to gcc

[Eduardo Cerejo]

My gcc is only looking in /usr/lib and /usr/include for libraries and hearders 
and I added the paths /usr/local/lib/ and /usr/local/include to my .cshrc file:

set path = (/sbin /bin /usr/sbin /usr/bin /usr/games /usr/local/sbin 
/usr/local/bin /usr/local/lib /usr/local/include $HOME/bin)

but I still have to use gcc with -I and -L switch for a program to compile or 
else it will fail.  

I'm using tcsh.
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Re: samba

[Eduardo Cerejo]

> Hash: SHA1
> 
> Greetings, I have a FreeBSD box i set up long ago as a file server
> 
> has worked great till I had to get a better laptop with gfx card to keep
> up with my SecondLife Addiction.  and now can't get the installed
> Vista Os to connect to it.
> 
> Help would be appreciated,
> 
> running 5.4-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE #0 on the box
> 
> Thanks in advance,
>  Wolf

Don't know much about samba but placing your samba configuration file would 
help many.
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samba

[MD Keith]

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has worked great till I had to get a better laptop with gfx card to keep
up with my SecondLife Addiction.  and now can't get the installed
Vista Os to connect to it.

Help would be appreciated,

running 5.4-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE #0 on the box

Thanks in advance,
 Wolf


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RE: Various X errors (difficult to see)

[Luca Presotto]

>>This error refers to the artsd daemon already running, or the system thinks 
>>this daemon is running.  You should open a terminal window and do:
>>ps -ax|grep -i art

>>and see if the artsd daemon is running or not.  If it is not, you may need to 
>>force it to start.

>I'll try that later!

If I do ps -ax etc...  I get:
 1185  ??  S  0:00.03 kdeinit: kdeinit: klauncher --new-startup (kdeinit)
 1187  ??  S  0:00.28 kdeinit: kdeinit: kded --new-startup (kdeinit)
 1206  ??  S  0:00.49 /usr/local/bin/artsd -F 10 -S 4096 -s 60 -m 
artsmessage -c drkonqi -l 3 -f
 1106  v0  I+ 0:00.00 /bin/sh /usr/local/bin/startx
 1131  v0  I  0:00.01 /bin/sh /usr/local/bin/startkde
 1328  p0  R+ 0:00.00 grep -i art

I think that 1206 is the right daemon and is correctly running. Correct?
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R: Various X errors (difficult to see)

[Luca Presotto]

>>Is it something wrong in /etc/hosts??

>It could be your /etc/hosts or /etc/hosts.allow or you may need to add:
> -listen_tcp

>to your startx commandline.

I supposed the problem was there! I'll look at -listen_tcp and at hosts.allow.
I have doubts about setting hosts. X used to give me errors about not being 
able to connect (but still worked!). Then I tried to set up hosts correctly and 
now here's the new "problem".
I've read "man hosts", read the handbook and googled around but it's not very 
clear what I should write in this file.
My hostname is lucy. It's a laptot that eventually connects to the nearest 
available network. So it isn't part of a domain or something like that.
In the end I set up the concerned hosts lines to:
::1 localhost localhost.my.domain lucy
127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.my.domain lucy
 
Is it correct?
Why should I leave localhost.my.domain ?

>These messages are errors telling you the window manager cannot manage these 
>mimetypes.  
>Did you remove any ports for handling these types of archive files?

No, I didn't remove anything! But I copied just 3 warnings. There were 130 of 
them related not only to archive files handling but almost to everything.

>This error refers to the artsd daemon already running, or the system thinks 
>this daemon is running.  You should open a terminal window and do:
>ps -ax|grep -i art

>and see if the artsd daemon is running or not.  If it is not, you may need to 
>force it to start.

I'll try that later!

>When you say "every time you launch a program"  how exactly are you trying to 
>launch a program?  

Either with the kde "launch program", either launching the file in a xterm, 
either when firefox opens a new popupAnd I think those are pretty much all 
the possible ways I explored!
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help for a wounded disk drive...

[William Bulley]

I damaged a Seagate 80 GB EIDE drive that was attached to a FreeBSD 5.4
system (as ufs) some time ago, and I would like to recover the data on
this drive - if that is possible.  All positive suggestions are welcome.

The drive is mechanically and electrically good.  I just can't mount it
and use it under FreeBSD.  It was a dual boot drive with a DOS partition
on the first partition and FreeBSD 5.4 on partition two.  I did the normal
sysinstall for FreeBSD 5.5 as I had done many times before.  Unfortunately,
I had the older, FreeBSD 5.4 drive cabled up (and powered up) on the second
IDE channel (using cable select) of an i386 motherboard while I did the 5.5
install on a new, blank drive on the first IDE channel.

I told sysinstall to add the standard FreeBSD bootloader on the new drive.
I don't recall if I allowed for a DOS partition or just used the entire disk.
The FreeBSD 5.4 disk on the second IDE channel also had the standard FreeBSD
bootloader from my earlier sysinstall of 5.4 on that disk.

When I completed the install, I figured I could just mount the second (older)
drive manually.  When I tried to do this, things went from bad to worse, and
the new system could never recognize the drive.  I believe the installation
process attempted to (or succeeded in) putting (an unnecessary) bootloader on
the older drive.  Had it not been connected, it would probably be okay today.
I learned an important lesson at that time...

I don't know what steps to take to recover this drive so I can mount it in a
read-only mode.  I just want to recover the files on this drive.  It is very
small by today's standards, so I will likely not use the drive in production.

I am comfortable running any required shell commands (as root), but I don't
want to damage the disk drive any further.  I hope I don't have to resort to
using dd(1) on the raw device!  Thanks in advance for any pointers.

Regards,

web...

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RE: Various X errors (difficult to see)

[Derek Ragona]

At 11:14 AM 3/21/2008, Luca Presotto wrote:


>You should run startx and redirect the output to a file and check the
>errors and then try to fix them.  To do this try:

>startx >/tmp/somexerrorlogfile 2>&1

Done that!
Here-s the first error(s):

DCOPClient::attachInternal. Attach failed Could not open network socket
DCOPClient::attachInternal. Attach failed Could not open network socket
Warning: kbuildsycoca is unable to register with DCOP.
kbuildsycoca running...
DCOPClient::attachInternal. Attach failed Could not open network socket
kbuildsycoca running...
DCOP Cleaning up dead connections.
Reusing existing ksycoca

Is it something wrong in /etc/hosts??


It could be your /etc/hosts or /etc/hosts.allow or you may need to add:
 -listen_tcp

to your startx commandline.



Then I get lots of line(130!) like :

kbuildsycoca: WARNING: '/usr/local/share/applications/kde/ark.desktop' 
specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'application/x-tbz2'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: '/usr/local/share/applications/kde/ark.desktop' 
specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'application/zip'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: '/usr/local/share/applications/kde/ark.desktop' 
specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'application/x-7z'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 
'/usr/local/share/applications/themus-theme-applier.desktop' specifies 
undefined mimetype/servicetype 'application/x-gnome-theme-installed'


These messages are errors telling you the window manager cannot manage 
these mimetypes.  Did you remove any ports for handling these types of 
archive files?




Then finally:

DCOP Cleaning up dead connections.
Launched ok, pid = 1283
ICE default IO error handler doing an exit(), pid = 1222, errno = 0
There are already artsd objects registered, looking if they are active...

Error: Can't add object reference (probably artsd is already running).
   If you are sure it is not already running, remove the relevant files:

   /tmp/ksocket-Luca/Arts_SoundServerV2
   /tmp/ksocket-Luca/Arts_SoundServer
   /tmp/ksocket-Luca/Arts_SimpleSoundServer
   /tmp/ksocket-Luca/Arts_PlayObjectFactory
   /tmp/ksocket-Luca/Arts_AudioManager


This error refers to the artsd daemon already running, or the system thinks 
this daemon is running.  You should open a terminal window and do:

ps -ax|grep -i art

and see if the artsd daemon is running or not.  If it is not, you may need 
to force it to start.





Then, every time I launch a program that open a new window I get:

X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3
  Major opcode:  19
  Minor opcode:  0
  Resource id:  0x66



When you say "every time you launch a program"  how exactly are you trying 
to launch a program?


The error is complaining about passing a bad parameter, so if you are 
launching the program just through your window manager, you must have a bad 
configuration file.



-Derek

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[Greg Lehey]

The trouble with books is that you can't update them the way you can a web page
or any other online documentation.  The result is that most leading edge
computer books are out of date almost before they are printed.  Unfortunately,
The Complete FreeBSD, published by O'Reilly, is no exception.  Inevitably, a
number of bugs and changes have surfaced.

"The Complete FreeBSD" has been through a total of five editions, including its
predecessor "Installing and Running FreeBSD".  Two of these have been reprinted
with corrections.  I maintain a series of errata pages.  Start at
http://www.lemis.com/errata-4.html to find out how to get the errata
information.

Note also that the book has now been released for free download in PDF
form.  Instead of downloading the changed pages, you may prefer to
download the entire book.  See http://www.lemis.com/grog/Documentation/CFBSD/ 
for more information.

Have you found a problem with the book, or maybe something confusing?
Please let me know: I'm no longer constantly updating it, but I may be
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How to get the best results from FreeBSD questions.
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III:  Should I ask -questions or -hackers?
IV:   How to submit a question to FreeBSD-questions
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   Note that the term "hacker" has nothing to do with breaking
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   activity is "cracker", but the popular press hasn't found out
   yet.  The FreeBSD hackers disapprove strongly of cracking
   security, and have nothing to do with it.

In the past, there has been some friction which stems from the
different viewpoints of the two groups.  The newcomers accused the
hackers of being arrogant, stuck-up, and unhelpful, while the hackers
accused the newcomers of being stupid, unable to read plain English,
and expecting everything to be handed to them on a silver platter.  Of
course, there's an element of truth in both these claims, but for the
most part these viewpoints come from a sense of frustration.

In this document, I'd like to do something to relieve this frustration
and help everybody get better results from FreeBSD-questions.  In the
following section, I recommend how to submit a question; after that,
we'll look at how to answer one.

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RE: Various X errors (difficult to see)

[Luca Presotto]

>You should run startx and redirect the output to a file and check the 
>errors and then try to fix them.  To do this try:

>startx >/tmp/somexerrorlogfile 2>&1

Done that!
Here-s the first error(s):

DCOPClient::attachInternal. Attach failed Could not open network socket
DCOPClient::attachInternal. Attach failed Could not open network socket
Warning: kbuildsycoca is unable to register with DCOP.
kbuildsycoca running...
DCOPClient::attachInternal. Attach failed Could not open network socket
kbuildsycoca running...
DCOP Cleaning up dead connections.
Reusing existing ksycoca

Is it something wrong in /etc/hosts??

Then I get lots of line(130!) like :

kbuildsycoca: WARNING: '/usr/local/share/applications/kde/ark.desktop' 
specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'application/x-tbz2'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: '/usr/local/share/applications/kde/ark.desktop' 
specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'application/zip'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: '/usr/local/share/applications/kde/ark.desktop' 
specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'application/x-7z'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 
'/usr/local/share/applications/themus-theme-applier.desktop' specifies 
undefined mimetype/servicetype 'application/x-gnome-theme-installed'

Then finally:

DCOP Cleaning up dead connections.
Launched ok, pid = 1283
ICE default IO error handler doing an exit(), pid = 1222, errno = 0
There are already artsd objects registered, looking if they are active...

Error: Can't add object reference (probably artsd is already running).
   If you are sure it is not already running, remove the relevant files:

   /tmp/ksocket-Luca/Arts_SoundServerV2
   /tmp/ksocket-Luca/Arts_SoundServer
   /tmp/ksocket-Luca/Arts_SimpleSoundServer
   /tmp/ksocket-Luca/Arts_PlayObjectFactory
   /tmp/ksocket-Luca/Arts_AudioManager


Then, every time I launch a program that open a new window I get:

X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3
  Major opcode:  19
  Minor opcode:  0
  Resource id:  0x66
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Re: java plugin for Firefox on AMD64 running FreeBSD 6.3

[Jung-uk Kim]

On Friday 21 March 2008 08:46 am, Dino Vliet wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> I'm lost at finding a solution for getting the java plugin to work
> in Firefox 2.11 on my AMD64 system running FreeBSD 6.3.
>
> I've upgraded my ports and the diablo-jdk version is:
> pkg_info | grep diablo
> diablo-jdk-1.5.0.07.01_9 Java Development Kit 1.5.0_07.01
>
> The handbook said I needed the JRE so I installed that as well:
>
> pkg_info | grep diablo
> diablo-jdk-1.5.0.07.01_9 Java Development Kit 1.5.0_07.01
> diablo-jre-1.5.0.07.01_9 Java Runtime Environment 1.5.0_07.01
>
> But now I need to do this in order to see the java plugin activated
> when I press about:plugins:
>
> # ln -s
> /usr/local/diablo-jre1.5.0/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so \
> /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/
>
> But I don't have a plugin directory in the
>   /usr/local/diablo-jre1.5.0 directory, so I won't have that file
> libjavaplugin_oji.so either.

diablo-jdk/-jre does not have Mozilla plugin for amd64.  You have to 
build *JDK* from ports with plugin support, i.e., ports/java/jdk15 or 
ports/java/jdk16.

Jung-uk Kim
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Re: Various X errors (difficult to see)

[Derek Ragona]

At 09:18 AM 3/21/2008, Luca Presotto wrote:

Hi,
I have a freebsd 7.0 release with xorg 7.3 installed on a i386 with a
NVIDIA GeForce Go 7300
Official nvidia drivers installed and apparently no problems.
In the xorg.0.log file there aren't any errors, glx is correctly loaded
etc..
My system starts without X and then I use startx to start X server and
KDE3.5 (if I'm not wrong about the version).
Some errors are written on the console and I'm not able to see them!
To see them I have to stop X (with ctrl+ bkspc) and use scroll lock to
see what's there.
I found the console full of "X error: bad window parameter" (and some
numbers and parameters which I can't remember)
Then I find a lots of warnings about kde problems (about loading arts
daemons).
Except for these errors that I wouldn't be seeing if logging in directly
in a graphical environment everything seems to work fine.
So I have some questions: is this way of reporting errors correct?
Can this be the related to the fact that when I try to use compiz-fusion
it starts but it's way too slow and uses a lot of cpu?
Should I worry about these errors?
How can I solve them?? (They seem really too generic)

Thank you!


You should run startx and redirect the output to a file and check the 
errors and then try to fix them.  To do this try:


startx >/tmp/somexerrorlogfile 2>&1


-Derek

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Re: some problems after upgrading to 7.0-RELEASE

[Gerard Seibert]

On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 08:46:34 -0500
Derek Ragona <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I followed all the UPDATING instructions, and still had many issues
> because of old libraries.  So the:
> portupgrade -faP
> 
> didn't work well for me.  I ended up rebuilding all the ports, which
> of course fixed everything.

You could have used: "portmanager -u -f -y" to achieve the same goal,
assuming that you had it installed.

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Re: removable devices auto umounting

[Tijl Coosemans]

>> On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 11:55:32AM +1000, Da Rock wrote:
>>> I'm just looking into the removable device issue for freebsd. I can
>>> see its easy enough to auto mount a removable device (although I
>>> could use some help getting sd/xd devices working with my card
>>> reader), but the removal seems to come unstuck.
>>> 
>>> I have some barely literates on my systems, so I do need to work
>>> this out. Is it possible to use a forced umount to do this? What
>>> are the options here?

In KDE (same for GNOME and such I figure), removable devices like usb
keys, cameras, cd/dvd are automounted and appear on the desktop.
Using the right-click popup menu you can "Safely remove" or "Eject"
them.

For this to work, you need to have sysutils/hal installed and configure
x11/kdebase3 to enable hal support (this is the default).

Then you need to give users permission to access necessary devices.
It's best to create a separate group for that like plugdev and then
add users to this group. To give a plugdev group access to devices
create/edit the file /etc/devfs.rules to contain:

--- begin /etc/devfs.rules ---
[local_ruleset=10]
#allow plugdev to access the CAM subsystem (required for cd/dvd burning and usb 
mass storage)
add path xpt0 user root group plugdev mode 0660
add path 'pass*' user root group plugdev mode 0660
#only allow root for specific fixed SCSI drives if any
#add path pass0 user root group operator mode 0660
#add path pass1 user root group operator mode 0660
#...

#allow plugdev to access the cdrom
add path cd0 user root group plugdev mode 0660

#allow plugdev to access usb mass storage
add path 'da*' user root group plugdev mode 0660
#only allow root for specific fixed SCSI drives if any
#add path 'da0*' user root group operator mode 0660
#add path 'da1*' user root group operator mode 0660
#...

#allow plugdev to access generic usb devices (cameras/mp3 players using libusb)
add path 'usb*' user root group plugdev mode 0660
add path 'ugen*' user root group plugdev mode 0660
--- end /etc/devfs.rules ---

(You don't need anything special in /etc/devfs.conf. If you've put
stuff there to get cd burning working for normal users, you can
remove it. (permission for cd,xpt,pass devices))

In /etc/rc.conf then make sure you have these lines:

dbus_enable="YES"
devfs_system_ruleset="local_ruleset"
hald_enable="YES"
polkitd_enable="YES"

And finally, give plugdev access to hal by editing
/usr/local/etc/dbus-1/system.d/hal.conf
At the end of that file it says:

  
  




  

On the second line above, change "operator" to "plugdev".

Then make sure you have a /var/media directory and /media linking to it
and nothing related to removable devices in /etc/fstab (including cdrom).
Reboot your system and if I didn't miss anything, any user in the
plugdev group should be able to use removable devices quite easily.
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Re: i have questions

[Jerry McAllister]

On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 09:50:20PM -0800, Ko Htoo wrote:

> Are you crazy ?
> you are bastard
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this list.   If you want help on a question, ask it.  If you
do not understand a response, then say so.  But, do not use foul
language or call people names.Quality people do not speak
that way.

jerry


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> > Lawyer Q8 wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > Please i have FreeBSD 6.3 RELEASE i want to upgrade to 7.0 stable
> > >
> > > if upgrade stable my files is lose and removed or not ?
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Re: Various X errors (difficult to see)

[Giorgos Keramidas]

On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 15:18:45 +0100, "Luca Presotto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> I have a freebsd 7.0 release with xorg 7.3 installed on a i386 with a
> NVIDIA GeForce Go 7300 Official nvidia drivers installed and
> apparently no problems.  In the xorg.0.log file there aren't any
> errors, glx is correctly loaded etc..
>
> My system starts without X and then I use startx to start X server and
> KDE3.5 (if I'm not wrong about the version).
>
> Some errors are written on the console and I'm not able to see them!
> To see them I have to stop X (with ctrl+ bkspc) and use scroll lock to
> see what's there.

You can grab most of the errors by redirecting both standard `output'
and standard `error' to a file, i.e.:

bash$ startx 2>&1 | tee logfile

Then, after you exit X11, keep a copy of `logfile' around, and see if
you can make more sense of the errors :)

- Giorgos

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Re: Odd aliasing question

[DAve]

Vince wrote:

DAve wrote:
I've looked but found no examples to give me confidence. While I have 
lots of servers running alias IPs the IPs are all on the same network. 
I've have been informed by my network admin that we will need to 
change the IPs of our legacy name servers (we are just dragging them 
along for a time, new name servers are up and domains are being moved 
to them).


Currently the IP of ns2 is 208.252.191.2, this needs to change to 
65.123.104.25. The network admin is telling me he will have the router 
for that NOC cage handle both IPs no problems. However I need to 
continue answering the old IP until clients can get their equipment 
reconfigured.



This will work fine.

Can I alias 208.252.191.2 once I change the NIC's IP to 65.123.104.25 
with a default route of 65.123.104.1?



yes,

What netmask would use for the alias line?


Whatever you currently use for those IPs.


Well whaddaya know. Seems non intuitive to me but I'll give it a shot 
and use 0x same as any other alias.




This seems not possible to me, but you can learn something new 
everyday...


I've been supporting servers for about 10 years and I'm still learning 
:) Thats why its still fun.




I don't know about fun, interesting for certain ;^)

Thanks,

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Re: Powerpc port

[Simon Chang]

Hi there,

On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 9:13 PM, K. Bradford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have installed 7.0-RELEASE on an old Mac G4.
>  I have cvs'ed the latest sources (using the RELENG_7 tag)
>  in order to track 7.0-STABLE.

<...snip...>

Yeah, the information about FreeBSD seems rather biased toward
i386/amd64/IA64 and maybe the Alpha.  At any rate the PowerPC is
officially a tier-2 platform so there isn't as much support available.

What you can do, though, is to get basic information like device node
names and such from NetBSD.  I got NetBSD 3.0 running on my PowerMac
G4/533 more than a year ago, and it ran just about flawlessly (it had
some problems shutting down, i.e. froze, but other than that there was
nothing I could complain about).  Some of the setup information,
particularly with regards to how OpenFirmware interacts with the boot
loader and boot devices, may be relevant.  At any rate, NetBSD has had
considerable experience porting the OS to the PowerPC platform so it's
worth a try.

Check out this (huge!) how-to at:

ftp://ftp.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/NetBSD-3.1/macppc/INSTALL.html

Good luck,

SC
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Re: i have questions

[Paul Schmehl]

--On Thursday, March 20, 2008 21:50:20 -0800 Ko Htoo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:



Are you crazy ?


man (8) dump

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Various X errors (difficult to see)

[Luca Presotto]

Hi,
I have a freebsd 7.0 release with xorg 7.3 installed on a i386 with a
NVIDIA GeForce Go 7300
Official nvidia drivers installed and apparently no problems.
In the xorg.0.log file there aren't any errors, glx is correctly loaded
etc..
My system starts without X and then I use startx to start X server and
KDE3.5 (if I'm not wrong about the version).
Some errors are written on the console and I'm not able to see them!
To see them I have to stop X (with ctrl+ bkspc) and use scroll lock to
see what's there.
I found the console full of "X error: bad window parameter" (and some
numbers and parameters which I can't remember)
Then I find a lots of warnings about kde problems (about loading arts
daemons). 
Except for these errors that I wouldn't be seeing if logging in directly
in a graphical environment everything seems to work fine.
So I have some questions: is this way of reporting errors correct?
Can this be the related to the fact that when I try to use compiz-fusion
it starts but it's way too slow and uses a lot of cpu?
Should I worry about these errors?
How can I solve them?? (They seem really too generic)

Thank you!
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Re: /var/named Changes Ownership to Root on Boot

[Derek Ragona]

At 08:54 AM 3/21/2008, Martin McCormick wrote:

I think I fixed it but I am not sure I would have
figured it out quickly without the help from the list.

It seems that FreeBSD defaults to a chroot of bind with
the tree owned by root. You can run bind in a sandbox as the
documentation says and have it chroot but if you do, and heres's
the confusion, you had better disable FreeBSD's attempt to make
sure the /var/named tree is always owned by root which would be
fine if named ran as root.

When you run it in a sandbox with a lower-priority UID,
you must make sure that at least one more little line appears in
rc.conf.local.

named_chrootdir=""  # Chroot directory (or "" not to auto-chroot it)

That's the key right there. If you use lines from rc.conf.local
from an older system such as pre-FreeBSD5, you don't need that
line and things work fine. If you don't have it on a FreeBSD5 or
newer system,
/etc/defaults/rc.conf supplies the default version of that line
which reads:

named_chrootdir="/var/named"# Chroot directory (or "" not to 
auto-chroot it)


and one is seriously messed up from there on during the booting
process.

I was confused and thought this would all help me keep
ownership of /var/named belonging to bind when, in fact, it does
just the opposite.


Yes it is confusing.  It is more confusing if you upgrade as the chroot'ing 
behavior wasn't the default behavior in older versions.  So often an 
upgraded system won't run named until you fix these settings.


-Derek
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FreeBSD compatiblity

[Eduardo Cerejo]

FreeBSD 7 stable

If you have these options in your kernel:

options COMPAT_FREEBSD4 # Compatible with FreeBSD4
options COMPAT_FREEBSD5 # Compatible with FreeBSD5
options COMPAT_FREEBSD6 # Compatible with FreeBSD6

you don't need to enable them in /etc/rc.conf, am I correct?
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Re: /var/named Changes Ownership to Root on Boot

[Martin McCormick]

I think I fixed it but I am not sure I would have
figured it out quickly without the help from the list.

It seems that FreeBSD defaults to a chroot of bind with
the tree owned by root. You can run bind in a sandbox as the
documentation says and have it chroot but if you do, and heres's
the confusion, you had better disable FreeBSD's attempt to make
sure the /var/named tree is always owned by root which would be
fine if named ran as root.

When you run it in a sandbox with a lower-priority UID,
you must make sure that at least one more little line appears in
rc.conf.local.

named_chrootdir=""  # Chroot directory (or "" not to auto-chroot it)

That's the key right there. If you use lines from rc.conf.local
from an older system such as pre-FreeBSD5, you don't need that
line and things work fine. If you don't have it on a FreeBSD5 or
newer system,
/etc/defaults/rc.conf supplies the default version of that line
which reads:

named_chrootdir="/var/named"# Chroot directory (or "" not to auto-chroot it)

and one is seriously messed up from there on during the booting
process.

I was confused and thought this would all help me keep
ownership of /var/named belonging to bind when, in fact, it does
just the opposite.

Martin McCormick WB5AGZ  Stillwater, OK 
Systems Engineer
OSU Information Technology Department Network Operations Group

Chuck Swiger writes:
>/var/named is owned by root on all of my newer (5.x and later)  
>systems; I found an old 4.11 box with it owned by bind, though.  If  
>you're using named chroot'ed (as recommended), it will want /var/named/ 
>var/{dump/log/run/stats} writable by bind.
>
>-- 
>-Chuck
>
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Re: Laptop advice

[Derek Ragona]

At 04:56 AM 3/21/2008, Joe Demeny wrote:

I need to get a budget-priced laptop, such as one of these:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834101123
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834114430

Does anyone have experience with these?

Any suggestions for other comparable choices?


I would choose the Toshiba, much better quality and support.  You may want 
to look at Lenovo's too.


In a laptop I would look at the graphics if you plan to run X.

-Derek


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Re: some problems after upgrading to 7.0-RELEASE

[Derek Ragona]

At 11:24 PM 3/20/2008, Peter Boosten wrote:



Novembre wrote:

I've read UPDATING before doing anything, but I assumed that "
portupgrade -faP " also covers that part about gnutls as well. Isn't
it true? Unless portupgrade did upgrade samba first and then gnutls,
which means it's not smart enough!
Am I wrong?


Probably not :-)
In my experience portupgrade -fa isn't always that smart.

Peter


I followed all the UPDATING instructions, and still had many issues because 
of old libraries.  So the:

portupgrade -faP

didn't work well for me.  I ended up rebuilding all the ports, which of 
course fixed everything.


-Derek

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OT: using arts & noatun

[Nikos Vassiliadis]

Hello,

  I just updated(actually re-installed) my system from 6-STABLE
to 7-STABLE. I spent two days choosing and compilling this and
that, and now it seems that it's usable again. But, I have trouble
with arts or maybe noatun. It skips audio, no matter what. Zero
load and it skips. I tried to use multiple mplayer instances in parallel
and the outcome was fine as expected; no skips at all.

  As I want to use noatun from time to time, is there something
I can do?
Does anybody else have different or similar experience?

Thanks, Nikos

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Re: Laptop advice

[Colin Brace]

On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Joe Demeny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I need to get a budget-priced laptop, such as one of these:
>
>  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834101123

Read the user comments carefully. For this laptop, you'll find, for example:

---
Cons: RTL8187B wireless chipset. If you want to use a wireless
connection under Linux this will give you problems. Tried several
distros with no success. Was finally able to get it to work
*intermittently* with Windows 98 drivers under Ndiswrapper - XP
drivers would not work.
---

If you plan on using wireless lan, you'll need to read the fine print
very carefully to determine whether there is BSD support for the given
chipset.

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java plugin for Firefox on AMD64 running FreeBSD 6.3

[Dino Vliet]

Hi folks,

I'm lost at finding a solution for getting the java plugin to work in Firefox 
2.11 on my AMD64 system running FreeBSD 6.3.

I've upgraded my ports and the diablo-jdk version is:
pkg_info | grep diablo
diablo-jdk-1.5.0.07.01_9 Java Development Kit 1.5.0_07.01

The handbook said I needed the JRE so I installed that as well:

pkg_info | grep diablo
diablo-jdk-1.5.0.07.01_9 Java Development Kit 1.5.0_07.01
diablo-jre-1.5.0.07.01_9 Java Runtime Environment 1.5.0_07.01

But now I need to do this in order to see the java plugin activated when I 
press about:plugins:

# ln -s /usr/local/diablo-jre1.5.0/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so \
/usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/

But I don't have a plugin directory in the 
  /usr/local/diablo-jre1.5.0 directory, so I won't have that file 
libjavaplugin_oji.so either.
 

So what am I doing wrong?

Thanks in advanced,
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ports / easiest way to install older version when new is marked as ignored?

[Zbigniew Szalbot]

Hello,

The subject says it all - I have a port which is marked as ignored and
I am wondering how I can proceed with installing an older version of
it?

Thanks!

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instalation problem - unable to find device node

[javo]

hi ,
I'm newbie to FreeBSD, I tried to install it month ago and everything was
OK, freeBSD was the only system running,

later, I've installed windows and gentoo, and I've left space for FreBSD,
now during the instalation I got this error after configuring my disk
partitions,

unable to find device node for /dev/x in /dev! and instalation won't
continue

what can be the reason pls? thx
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start/stop network services on a Laptop

[michel Junger]

Hello,

First, my question:
Is there a standard way to boot without network services and then to
start them all later ?

Second, the situation:
I've got a laptop running FreeBSD 7 fine. By default it boots without
enabling network interface, later I manually run 
/etc/rc.d/netif start ath0 and /etc/rc.d/routing start if needed.

I've got this lines in /etc/rc.conf:
#
network_interfaces="lo0"
ifconfig_ath0="inet 192.168.X.Y  netmask 255.255.255.0 ssid thessid"
#
sshd_enable="YES"
ntpdate_enable="YES" 
ntpdate_flags="-4 -b"
ntpdate_hosts="ntpd-server"

There's two problems with this configuration:
- At boot time ntpdate try to contact the ntpd-server but naturaly it
fails (no network).
- sshd always runs even if there's no network.

So must I re-invent the wheel or is there a better way to do it.
Thanks in advance for any help.

Michel.

  


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Re: Removing aliases removes primary IP

[Spil Oss]

Thanks Pietro!

Somehow the man-page for ifconfig is confusing

In the examples:

Add the IPv6 address 2001:DB8:DBDB::123/48 to the interface em0:
   # ifconfig em0 inet6 2001:db8:bdbd::123 prefixlen 48 alias
 Note that lower case hexadecimal IPv6 addresses are acceptable.

 Remove the IPv6 address added in the above example, using the / character
 as shorthand for the network prefix, and using delete as a synonym for
 the canonical form of the option -alias:
   # ifconfig em0 inet6 2001:db8:bdbd::123/48 delete


Lesson for me is that you should have only one 'command' per
invocation where I had 2. alias is not an atribute/option of the
setting I was trying to do

Kind regards,

Spil.


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> | 2) you remove an alias which the 'delete' argument. Since you don't
> | specify which alias to be removed, the lowest IP number is removed. In
> | your case, the lowest IP number happens to be your primary :-)
>
> Maybe someone with a doc@ commit bit could commit the following patch,
> since this behavior is not documented in ifconfig(8).
>
> - --- ifconfig.8.orig 2008-03-20 15:34:17.0 +0100
> +++ ifconfig.8  2008-03-20 15:34:43.0 +0100
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> ~ .Li 0x
> ~ is most appropriate.
> ~ .It Fl alias
> - -Remove the network address specified.
> +Remove the network address specified, or the one with the lowest
> +value if none is specified.
> ~ This would be used if you incorrectly specified an alias, or it
> ~ was no longer needed.
> ~ If you have incorrectly set an NS address having the side effect
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Laptop advice

[Joe Demeny]

I need to get a budget-priced laptop, such as one of these:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834101123
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834114430

Does anyone have experience with these?

Any suggestions for other comparable choices?

-- 
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Process in lockf with apache/php

[Nicolas Letellier]

Hi.

I use Apache 1.3 and PHP5 in module.
I have a timeout of 30 seconds for my PHP scripts.
When a process is out of this timeout, I have this message in my error.log:

 Maximum execution time of 30 seconds exceeded in 
/var/www/data/test.php on line 10


Ok, this is normal.

In a "top", I see the process is in lockf state. The process is not killed.
But when I do a "ps aux", I don't see the lockf state.

How show lockf states in "ps" command? I don't find it in ps manpage.

What's a lockf state precisely? Why Apache/PHP does not kill this 
process? I must kill them manually?

Is a bug number of lockf processes is important?

Thanks.

 - Nicolas.
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RE: Jittery PS/2 Mouse in 7.0-RELEASE

[Ted Mittelstaedt]

I believe if you run the mouse daemon and use /dev/sysmouse
in xorg it will work a lot better.

Ted

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alexander Dunn
> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 5:12 AM
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Jittery PS/2 Mouse in 7.0-RELEASE
>
>
> I have a PS/2, wired, optical mouse that I have been using flawlessly with
> Windows and several Linux distributions for years now.  I would like to
> switch
> to Free BSD, but the mouse becomes very jittery within FreeBSD.  I have
> tried
> the mouse with both moused and X controlling the mouse, but in both cases
> the
> result is the same. The cursor on the screen tracks properly when
> I move my
> mouse in a wide arc, but when I move the mouse in small increments the
> cursor
> does not follow the mouse at all.  This makes it very difficult
> to click on
> small targets such as an OK button.
>
> Relevant Information:
>
> uname -a output:
> FreeBSD kienjakenobi 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #3: Sun Mar
> 16 15:45:08
> EDT
> 2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL  i386
>
> dmesg mouse output:
> psm0:  irq 12 on atkbdc0
> psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
> psm0: [ITHREAD]
> psm0: model IntelliMouse, device ID 3
>
> xorg.conf:
> Section "InputDevice"
> Identifier "Mouse0"
> Driver "mouse"
> Option "Protocol" "PS/2"
> Option "Device" "/dev/psm0"
> Option "Emulate3Buttons" "no"
> Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
> EndSection
>
> This does not seem to be a problem with X for several reasons.
> First, I use
> this version of X.org with Linux with the same config that is shown above
> without this problem.
> Second, when I give control of the mouse over to moused, the problem does
> not
> change.  It is visible even in the console when using moused.
>
> I am using a custom kernel, but this problem does not change even
> when I am
> using the GENERIC kernel.
>
> Based on this information I think I have crossed out most potentional
> porblem locations,
> but I hope I missed something.
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RE: Replacing Windows with FreeBSD (was: my brother is making me learn FreeBSD...)

[Ted Mittelstaedt]

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Nejc Škoberne
> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 1:51 AM
> To: User Questions
> Subject: Replacing Windows with FreeBSD (was: my brother is making me
> learn FreeBSD...)
>
>
> Sorry, but OpenOffice is more featureless than MS Office 2007.
> There are things
> which you can do with MS Office so MUCH easily than with
> OpenOffice. For feature
> comparison see:
>
> http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=480
>
> Not to mention performance issues with OpenOffice:
>
> http://www.openoffice.org/product/docs/ms2007vsooo2.pdf
>

The interface in Office 2007 is completely different than Office
2003 and most people in business that I know are not running
Office 2007 and have no plans to upgrade.  Even when they buy
brand new systems.  Office 2003 runs great on Vista so why
change?  Since the interface is different, any business that
does change is going to suffer a huge cut in productivity for
a long time while their accountants and secretaries and such
all retrain.  The reports of Office 2007 sales are grossly
inflated because most businesses are on a yearly Microsoft
site license that they pay a lot to maintain, and that license
gives them free upgrades to the new software - so after MS
released Office 2007 every time a business anniversary renewal
came up MS counted those as sales, even though for most
companies don't load the new Office.

The reason a lot of companies are looking at OpenOffice right
now is they are looking into dropping MS Office completely
from their site licenses due to the cost savings.  Since OpenOffice
is compatible with all their Office 2003 Word and Excel documents
it's a good time to look at switching.

> want to use things nicely. For example, let's look at the mail
> system. You could
> put a Postfix+amavisd-new+spamassassin+Horde+postfixadmin+ ...
> bla bla stuff on
> your FreeBSD server (I actually run this on many servers). But in
> that webmail,
> you are not able to manage your spam quarantine for example - you
> have to logout
> of Horde and login to Maia Mailguard (before you have to install
> that too), which
> is complicated for users.

Not true.  All you need do is install spamassassin, and have it
tag mail and forward it to the user.  Then setup procmail as the LDA
and sort the tagged mail into a SPAM folder in the users home
directory.  From IMP or OpenWebmail you have access to local
mail folders on the server and you just instruct your users that
the SPAM folder is their quarentine.

> Microsoft usually (!) provides that (naturally, because it
> produces all those
> pieces).
>

Microsoft does no more integration than most others.  For an
example of a really integrated product look at Lotus Notes.  But,
most users dislike it because it puts a huge amount of control
over their work into the hands of the company.  You don't walk
into a Notes shop and see the adminstrative assistants working
on e-mails to their boyfriends, the way that you do in a MS
Office shop.

>
> Probably you use it more than I do, I really run FreeBSD servers
> mostly. And I
> have problems with providing nice-packaged, easy-to-use,
> all-in-one software to
> users who are used to that. I use FreeBSD/OS mostly because it is
> free of charge
> and because it is quite costumisable. If MS products would be
> free of charge, I
> would probably switch to them in most cases.

Never gonna happen.  There's a fundamental difference here between
free open source and commercial software.

Commercial software mostly caters to what subgroups of users within
the market want.  Take MS Word for example.  Most people never use more
than a 10th of it's features.  But, most people don't all use the
same 10th.  In order to keep selling Word, MS has to put all these
small fringe demands of the subgroups into Word.

Open source mostly caters to what the majority of users agree is needed.
That is why you won't ever find an open source package that is
all things to all people.  If your a user who has all your needs
met it's a great thing.  But if your a user who has one specific
need that the open source packages don't have, then even though all
of the rest of your needs could be met by open source, you likely
will not switch over.

>
> I just don't agree with the statement, that Windows servers are
> completely inferior
> to FreeBSD and you could replace all of them with FreeBSD boxen.
> If that would be
> possible, I would do it already.
>
> I really am a FreeBSD guy, I run it for more than 6 years now and
> I like it a lot.
> But I learned to be reasonable and not to say that it is in every
> way superior to
> everything else in the world.
>

Nothing out there is in every way superior to everything else in
the world.  Even Microsoft software, you said it yourself, simply
has nothing to offer to people who don't have much more money
than what it costs to purchase the computer hardware itself.

Ted

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RE: Realtek 811B LAN card on FreeBSD 7.0

[Ted Mittelstaedt]

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Greg Mars
> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 6:51 PM
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Realtek 811B LAN card on FreeBSD 7.0
>
>
> A few months ago, I posted asking about how good support the Realtek 8111B
> PCI Express LAN chipset is.
> The conclusion was that its behavior was rather flaky on FreeBSD 7.0
>
> Anyway, I got the motherboard with the chip integrated because the MOBO
> otherwise did what I needed.
> After installation of FreeBSD/i386 the chip was detected and the re driver
> attached but DHCP configuration wouldn't work. After searching on the
> internet, I found some patches at
>
> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-amd64/2007-December/010545.html
>
> http://people.freebsd.org/~yongari/re/if_re.c
> 
> http://people.freebsd.org/~yongari/re/if_rlreg.h
> 
>
>
> and applied them.
>
> After rebuilding the kernel, everything worked.
> Shortly after I decided I was going to run the FreeBSD/amd64 version
> instead.
> I had not kept the patches that worked on i386, so I downloaded from the
> same URL again.
> However, this time, applying the patch resulted in no change: DHCP
> configuration still wouldn't work.
>
> Now, I'm not sure what variable is responsible for this, the
> change to amd64
> or whether there was another version of the patch. Interestingly, in the
> thread where I found those links, people were running amd64 and had their
> problems resolved. I noticed that the version of if_re.c file was 107 the
> second time whereas the post said it was 101.
> I'm guessing the file was updated at the URL and this resulted in a
> regression.
> The problem is, I'm not in a position to say exactly which version worked.
>
> Is there anyone on the list close to this work and would have an idea of
> what happened?
> I am currently using a PCI lan card that works with the rl driver but it
> would be nice to have the integrated chip work too.

This sad story is an excellent example of why patches like this
need to be run through the standard development using the PR system,
not someone's personal website.  If they had been you could use
cvs to see what was changed.

E-mail the person who created the patches.  If your lucky he
can help you.  And for God's sake, once you get a running system,
submit a PR with the patches if the person who created
them isn't willing to do so.

Ted

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Re: i have questions

[Peter Boosten]

Ko Htoo wrote:

Are you crazy ?
you are bastard
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dump is the command to backup. If not sure, please ask, instead of 
flaming a guy for his good advice!


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