kernel panic on SATA drive

2009-07-01 Thread jw
I've been having an intermittent problem, wonder if someone on the
list has any ideas.

First my setup:
FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE (amd64)
quad-core Phenom processor
mobo: MSI K9N2G Neo
chipset: NVIDIA GeForce 8200, which FreeBSD recognizes as nForce (not
sure how that works)

I have a 3ware RAID card (RAID 1), which is the boot device.
A seagate drive connected via SATA
A WD external drive via USB

I will have the system running fine, then the seagate will apparently
fall off the bus, resulting in a panic.
The dump fails as well, presumably due to the 3ware driver not being
able to handle the panic? not sure...
If anyone knows a way I can get the dump to succeed, I'd appreciate
that info, too.
See below output for details.

The first time I had the problem, it would regularly happen when I
tried to install a particular port (sudo).
Then I changed where the SATA cable was plugged in and tried
un/re-plugging the USB external drive and rebooting and managed to get
it working (so I thought).
One weird aspect of that process is that the BIOS would not even list
the SATA drive until I switched it to a different plug... freaked me
out a bit.
Also during POST it would hang for many seconds, when I had the USB
drive plugged in, until I went through my random
plugging/unplugging/replugging shenanigans.

But now it has happened again, this time while copying lots of files
from the USB external drive to the SATA one.
Both drives are recognized by BIOS (and FreeBSD) on reboot this time,
at least. But I'm hesitant to just 'call it good' - I'd like this to
be a stable server (:

I manually transcribed the bulk of the output - is there a nicer way
to get the output of a kernel panic so I can copy/paste?
I didn't find an obvious command, though I'm no FreeBSD guru. If
someone could tell me how to get that output, I'd be greatful.

 output below 

ad7: FAILURE - device detached
g_vfs_done():ad7s1d[WRITE(offset=340978335744, length=16384)]error = 6
g_vfs_done():ad7s1d[WRITE(offset=340978352128, length=16384)]error = 6
/dev: got error 6 while accessing filesystem
panic: softdep_deallocate_dependencies: unrecovered I/O error
cpuid=2
Uptime: 15h23m39s
Physical memory: 7923MB
Dumping 733MB: 718 702 686 670 654 638twe0:completion event for nonbusy command
twe0: completion event for nonbusy command
twe0: completion event for nonbusy command
twe0: completion event for nonbusy command
twe0: completion event for nonbusy command
twe0: completion event for nonbusy command
twe0: FATAL STATUS BIT(S) 20
twe0: status 13207fd2

### At this point in the log a bunch of output starts getting
interleaved, character-by-character even.
### Maybe due to multi-cpus dumping output simultaneously? I don't know...
### eventually...

twe0: can't drain AEN queue
twe0: controller reset in progress
twe0: reset 1 failed

### snip more failing messages

twe0: can't reset controller, giving up

#Then some more stuff that I haven't written down

 end log ---



So any thoughts?
Maybe it's just a mobo / chipset compatibility issue? I should have
known with a mobo that says "GeForce 8200" for chipset. I thought
NVIDIA support was pretty good in FreeBSD though...

Do you think recompiling my own kernel would help?
Do you think installing a different version of FreeBSD would help? (My
main experience is with 6.2)

It was quite odd to me that even the BIOS stopped recognizing the SATA
drive the first time. Any thoughts on that?

Thanks for any feedback
-John
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X fails to start

2009-07-01 Thread Da Rock

I'm still having intermittent troubles with getting the freebsd servers seeing 
my mail servers for my normal maillist subscription, so if I could be cc'd...

I'm struggling to get my head around a reasonably severe problem with Xorg - 
I'm wondering if anyone else is having the same. I've installed Xorg, got it 
working, started to refine some settings with the wm and other apps for it, and 
then Xorg refuses to work.

My xorg log has only a couple of errors, for reference I'm using the i915 ko 
with drm:

startx:
X.Org X Server 1.6.1
Release Date: 2009-4-14
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p1 i386
...
(EE) [drm] Could not set DRM device bus ID.
(EE) intel(0): [dri] DRIScreenInit failed. Disabling DRI.
Setting master 
MIT-SHM extension disabled due to lack of kernel support

Xorg.0.log:
...
drmGetBusid returned ''
(II) [drm] DRM interface version 1.0
(EE) [drm] Could not set DRM device bus ID.
(EE) intel(0): [dri] DRIScreenInit failed. Disabling DRI
...
(WW) intel(0): drmDropMaster failed: Unknown error: -1
...
(WW) intel(0): PRB0_CTL (0x0001f001) indicates ring buffer enabled
(WW) intel(0): Existing errors found in hardware state.
...
MIT-SHM extension disabled due to lack of kernel support
...
(WW) intel(0): drmDropMaster failed: Unknown error: -1

Because of my communications issues I've been trying to resolve this myself- 
with no luck. I've been trying to get some more info on this, and it seems to 
be a huge bug on a lot of linux distros, but noone has a clear response- it all 
seems to be a secondary issue to whatever their problem is. SO, I then tried to 
find out how to debug, and ran into ANOTHER issue. I've rebuilt xorg-server 
with debug (ccflags='-O0 -g3' as per xorg wiki) with no real success, so then I 
moved to dri and hit this wall:

../../../src/mesa/main/dispatch.o(.text+0xbb90):../../../src/mesa/glapi/glapitemp.h:4951:
 first defined here
../../../src/mesa/x86/glapi_x86.o(.text+0x4130): In function 
`glPointParameteri':
../../../src/mesa/x86/glapi_x86.S:1270: multiple definition of 
`glPointParameteri'
../../../src/mesa/main/dispatch.o(.text+0xc8e0):../../../src/mesa/glapi/glapitemp.h:5256:
 first defined here
../../../src/mesa/x86/glapi_x86.o(.text+0x4140): In function 
`glPointParameteriv':
../../../src/mesa/x86/glapi_x86.S:1271: multiple definition of 
`glPointParameteriv'
../../../src/mesa/main/dispatch.o(.text+0xc940):../../../src/mesa/glapi/glapitemp.h:5266:
 first defined here
mklib: Installing libGL.so.1 libGL.so in ../../../lib
mv: rename libGL.so.1 to ../../../lib/libGL.so.1: No such file or directory
gmake[2]: *** [../../../lib/libGL.so] Error 1
gmake[2]: Leaving directory 
`/usr/ports/graphics/dri/work/Mesa-7.4.4/src/glx/x11'
gmake[1]: *** [subdirs] Error 1
gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/graphics/dri/work/Mesa-7.4.4/src'
gmake: *** [default] Error 1
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/dri.

The various warnings are in the gallon, but my main problem lay with the mklib 
error. So I tried to simply copy or rename libGL.so(.1) to make it happy (I 
couldn't find references in the Makefile(s) after half an hour of examination, 
so I took a little shortcut). It did, but then the gallon of warnings came back 
to hit me again- but harder, and so I get another stop in the build.

So now I can't get dri back, I can't get X working and I'm losing my patience 
fast! :)

What I can't figure out is what started all this in the first place, because it 
was working. Unfortunately I was in the midst of several things happening at 
once, so I can't remember if I rebuilt the kernel, upgraded xorg or both before 
X failed. As far as I can tell that is only secondary at any rate, as I need to 
prevent this happening again during upgrades/updates whatever.

My main questions here are:

1. How do debug Xorg? The debug flags haven't provided much at all so far 
(maybe I've done it wrong?)

2. Why can I get the busid failure and Xorg keep going? How do I force it? 
Where is this problem lying (kmod, driver, server)? Is it critical?

3. Is the MIT-SHM error the cause of my problems? (Or a contributor)

4. What do I need to do about the Mesa library? Is this related to the core 
issue? Is this a known bug in the port build?

I've considered manually debugging the drmGetBusID failure, but I don't exactly 
relish the idea of going through that much code. I could easily follow the 
procedures in the wiki, but I'd rather go through ports.

I've also just completely removed xorg and started again with the cflags, but 
it has failed again at the dri port.

I hope someone help here... :/


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Re: Questions on portmaster

2009-07-01 Thread b. f.
On 7/2/09, Manish Jain  wrote:
> b. f. wrote:
>> Manish Jain wrote:

> Regarding the download speeds I was getting with portmaster fetches (0.7
> kBps to 4.0 kBps), I immediately booted into Windows/Cygwin and did a
> wget from the same site portmaster was using. The speed I got from wget
> was ~ 35 kBps. This happened not just once but multiple times. Each time
> I did this, I had to interrupt portmaster. Finally I managed to get to
> install the wget port on FreeBSD itself. When I ran wget from FreeBSD,
> it reported comparable transfer rates (~ 35 kBps) from the same sites as
> portmaster was using.
>

This has nothing to do with portmaster.  Remember, portmaster is just
a (sometimes) convenient shell script wrapper for the normal ports
infrastructure.  What you're probably seeing is either the usual
fluctuations in network performance, or the difference between wget
and FreeBSD fetch(1), which by default is used for getting distfiles
and packages.  This is set in bsd.port.mk, and you can override it if
you prefer to use something else.  See the comments concerning
FETCH_BINARY, FETCH_ARGS, FETCH_CMD, FETCH_{BEFORE,AFTER}_ARGS,
FETCH_ENV, and FETCH_REGET at the top of bsd.port.mk, or the relevant
portion of that script.  You can also try tuning your network
settings, which can speed things up significantly in some cases.

>>> It respects IGNORE (it checks for it in the port Makefile, and also
>>> hands off to bsd.port.mk, which respects it).
>
> I got a curl port from portsnap marked IGNORE. portmaster did not ignore
> it anywhere near gracefully enough and finally killed off all child
> processes and itself.
>

Uh, yeah -- but that's another matter.  It did IGNORE it, but it just
stopped entirely.  This is another one of the things that need
improvement.  portupgrade, by contrast, will keep going, only ignoring
the port in question and any ports that depend upon it, but updating
the rest.  You should be able to patch portmaster to mimic this
behavior.

> Anyway, my system became so unpredictable that I had to reinstall
> FreeBSD. For the moment, I am avoiding portmaster till I can try it out
> on a dummy PC first.
>

Well, something is awry if your system was damaged that badly, and it
probably wasn't because of portmaster.  In general, few ports ought to
damage the base system.  You're probably better off trying to remove
and then reinstall all of your ports first (the instructions in the
portmaster manpage are good in this regard), before reinstalling
everything.

> BTW, I also tried portmanager and it segfaulted at the stage of
> generating a report.
>

Oh, well.  Sounds like a job for  rnol...@freebsd.org. But wait --
 who wants to bother him about some tiny piece of port management
software when he is heroically staging a single-handed campaign to
maintain X11 on FreeBSD?

b.
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Re: serial modem

2009-07-01 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 00:19:56 -0400, kalin m  wrote:
> 
> > But it IS a modem to dial tones and connect to something?
> > "Net search"... no idea what that could mean. Serial modems usually
> > don't search for nets...
> >
> > Or am I completely misunderstanding you and you're trying to find a
> > command access to a DSL modem that has a serial line?
> >   
> 
> it's a gsm/sms modem. i need to get to it to set some settings using AT 
> commands... 

Okay, then I do understand. My advice of using PPP should be fine
then. You just have to add somme AT commands you need. PPP can
issue them instead of dialing a number and then establish the
connection.


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Re: POLL: Linux preferences from FreeBSD users

2009-07-01 Thread Polytropon
On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 18:58:15 -0400, Daniel Underwood  
wrote:
> QUESTION: Of the various modern Linux distributions, which do you
> prefer? and why?

Actually, I'm not a Linux user. But Linux was my first step into
using UNIX on a x86 PC. More than 10 years ago, I started with
Slackware Linux, and with the rise of FreeBSD 4.0, I did abandon
it.

"Modern" Linux distributions don't appeal very much to me, because
they are messy: Missing manpages, partially ununderstandable file
system hierarchy layout, untidy source code. Ah yes, and I need a
very modern PC to run them. No thanks, not my party. That's why I
can't tell about them, because I've not used them.

The only thing that I observed when playing around with SuSE live
CDs was that the Gnome version of their Linux had a much better
internationalisation than the KDE version. Set language to "German",
and Gnome gives german text and messages most of the time, nearly
everywhere. KDE cannot do that. It even gives english error messages.
This is what scares Germans who want to try Linux. They cannot
stand such complicated computer thingies. :-)



> I'm very interested to see the spread of opinion about Linux
> distributions from FreeBSD fans.

Why?

And an addition: I'm not a "FreeBSD fan", I'm a FreeBSD user. I
am using it because it serves my needs best, and I am nearly
exclusively using it (along with Solaris).



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Re: serial modem

2009-07-01 Thread kalin m


nevermind...  thanks... 



kalin m wrote:



But it IS a modem to dial tones and connect to something?
"Net search"... no idea what that could mean. Serial modems usually
don't search for nets...

Or am I completely misunderstanding you and you're trying to find a
command access to a DSL modem that has a serial line?
  


it's a gsm/sms modem. i need to get to it to set some settings using 
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Re: Questions on portmaster

2009-07-01 Thread Manish Jain

b. f. wrote:

Manish Jain wrote:

...Does each child start 'make fetch' in the background ?


make checksum, yes.


Further, how can portmaster be tuned to automatically ignore ports which
are actually marked as IGNORE in the port directory ? This is not
covered in the manpage.


It respects IGNORE (it checks for it in the port Makefile, and also
hands off to bsd.port.mk, which respects it).   If you mean +IGNOREME,
the others have answered your question.


While doing portmaster -a, I have only managed to stop portmaster from
building exactly one port specified with the -x option. Can I get to
stop multiple ports from being built ? Is there regular expression
support for the -x option ?


Not in the sense that you mean, at least that I'm aware of.  This one
of the things that needs improvement.  It is a bit awkward, because it
uses the shell's built-in POSIX getopts to parse options, and then
calls itself recursively.  One way you could fix it would be to apply
a patch like:

--- portmaster.orig 2009-07-01 12:36:14.0 -0400
+++ portmaster  2009-07-01 18:55:59.0 -0400
@@ -9,7 +9,7 @@
 if [ -z "$PARENT_PID" ]; then
PARENT_PID=$$
: ${TMPDIR:=/tmp}
-   UPGRADE_TOOL=portmaster
+   UPGRADE_TOOL=$0

# /usr/local is needed in the path for make
PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin
@@ -788,7 +788,11 @@
u)  UNATTENDED=uopt; ARGS="-u $ARGS" ;;
v)  PM_VERBOSE=vopt; ARGS="-v $ARGS" ;;
w)  SAVE_SHARED=wopt; ARGS="-w $ARGS" ;;
-   x)  EXCL=$OPTARG ;;
+   x)  if [ -z "${OPTARG%%-*}" ]; then
+   fail 'The -x option requires an argument'
+   else
+   EXCL="-x $OPTARG $EXCL"
+   fi ;;
*)  echo '' ; echo "===>>> Try ${0##*/} --help"; exit 1 ;;
esac
 done
@@ -810,10 +814,7 @@
 [ -n "$FETCH_ONLY" -a -n "$NO_RECURSIVE_CONFIG" ] &&
fail "The -F and -G options are mutually exclusive"
 if [ -n "$EXCL" ]; then
-   case "$EXCL" in
-   -*) fail 'The -x option requires an argument' ;;
-   *)  ARGS="-x $EXCL $ARGS" ;;
-   esac
+   ARGS="$EXCL $ARGS"
 fi

 #=== Begin functions for getopts features and main ===
@@ -1461,14 +1462,17 @@
 check_exclude () {
[ -n "$EXCL" ] || return 0

-   case "$1" in
-   *${EXCL}*)
-   if [ -n "$PM_VERBOSE" ]; then
-   echo "===>>> Skipping $1"
-   echo "   because it matches the pattern: *${EXCL}*"
-   fi
-   return 1 ;;
-   esac
+   for pkgglob in `echo "$EXCL" | sed -e 's#-x##g'`
+   do
+   case "$1" in
+   *${pkgglob}*)
+   if [ -n "$PM_VERBOSE" ]; then
+   echo "===>>> Skipping $1"
+   echo "   because it matches the pattern:
*${pkgglob}*"
+   fi
+   return 1 ;;
+   esac ;
+   done
return 0
 }


(Mind the whitespace because of my MUA.)  Then you could just use
repeated -x flags, each with one and only one package glob that you
wanted to exclude.  I changed the definition of UPGRADE_TOOL so that
you could put this script in your path under another name, say
"jainpmaster", and then call it independently of the original
portmaster.  As usual, I make no claim that this is the best, only, or
most elegant way to do this.

Regards,
b.



Hello BF/Roland,

Thanks for the clarifications.

Regarding the download speeds I was getting with portmaster fetches (0.7 
kBps to 4.0 kBps), I immediately booted into Windows/Cygwin and did a 
wget from the same site portmaster was using. The speed I got from wget 
was ~ 35 kBps. This happened not just once but multiple times. Each time 
I did this, I had to interrupt portmaster. Finally I managed to get to 
install the wget port on FreeBSD itself. When I ran wget from FreeBSD, 
it reported comparable transfer rates (~ 35 kBps) from the same sites as 
portmaster was using.



It respects IGNORE (it checks for it in the port Makefile, and also
hands off to bsd.port.mk, which respects it).  


I got a curl port from portsnap marked IGNORE. portmaster did not ignore 
it anywhere near gracefully enough and finally killed off all child 
processes and itself.


The IGNOREME way is fine for me for avoiding multiple ports I know 
beforehand I do not want to build. But if a portsnap update creates an 
IGNORE port, portmaster should be skipping it entirely rather than 
having to kill all child processes and itself. In my experience, this 
did not happen. Or maybe my system was badly broken already by that time.


Anyway, my system became so unpredictable that I had to reinstall 
FreeBSD. For the moment, I am avoiding portmaster till I can try it out 
on a dummy PC first.


BTW, I also tried portmanager and it segfaulted at the stage of 
generating a report.



Thanks for all the help.

Manish Jai

Re: serial modem

2009-07-01 Thread kalin m



But it IS a modem to dial tones and connect to something?
"Net search"... no idea what that could mean. Serial modems usually
don't search for nets...

Or am I completely misunderstanding you and you're trying to find a
command access to a DSL modem that has a serial line?
  


it's a gsm/sms modem. i need to get to it to set some settings using AT 
commands... 
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Re: POLL: Linux preferences from FreeBSD users

2009-07-01 Thread Martin McCormick
Daniel Underwood writes:
> QUESTION: Of the various modern Linux distributions, which do you
> prefer? and why?

I like Debian and ubuntu which is a Debian distribution
but that is not to say that other distributions are poorly done.
Part of my preference is nothing more than that is what I
started out with for a Linux distribution back around 2001 so I
am accustomed to it.

I like the Debian installation CD because as a computer
user who is blind, I use a serial installation console and both
the Debian5 CD and ubuntu Server can be easily started in serial
mode.

I also do not like any distribution that uses a
GUI-based installation method unless there is a text-based
method which is still available and easy to start.

Debian was also one of the first few distributions to be
more conservative about security settings. I work for a
university and let's say that it is a good place to find out how
weak one's settings are. Anybody who finds a hole will not
necessarily tell you, but you will unfortunately find out in due
time when the complaints start rolling in from all over the
world.

All the major distributions now are much better about
security so this is not as much of a factor as it used to be. As
with many things, your mileage will be determined by what you
need to do and how well your particular flavor of Linux does it.

All Linux versions use the same kernel but some may
modify portions of it for special purposes.

The distribution known as grml, for instance, has a set
of modules in the kernel to support software speech synthesis. I
would love to put it on a certain laptop I have but the laptop
has other ideas. grml is a flavor of Debian and, on my laptop,
the live CD is dead. Ubuntu's live CD also does software speech
synthesis for blind computer users, along with an Orca desktop,
but it also needs a pretty hefty system just to boot the live
CD. That laptop of mine is a 1-GHZ processor and 256 megs of RAM
and it still isn't enough. That live CD is also a dead one on
that computer. One thing, though, the ubuntu live CD can seem to
find the sound card as I hear the bongo drums in the ubuntu
bootup, but then the drums fall silent and the screen goes
psychedelic as RAM is exhausted and the system looses sanity.
That particular psychedelic trip can only be ended by a forced
power-down.

The only distribution that does work there is something
called "Oralux" whose development stopped around 4 years ago. It
has software synthesis and it does talk all right, but the sound
card can not record sound and it really is too old to be safe or
very useful any more.

Martin McCormick WB5AGZ  Stillwater, OK 
Systems Engineer
OSU Information Technology Department Telecommunications Services Group
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Re: Wireless NICs on 7.2

2009-07-01 Thread Robert Hall
> And what about TX/RX signal?

I don't know where to look for that. :)

> Could you put backtrace somewhere?
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/developers-handbook/kerneldebug-gdb.html

Backtrace from crashing with a Belkin ndis:
(kgdb) backtrace
#0  doadump () at pcpu.h:196
#1  0xc055bcc3 in boot (howto=260) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:418
#2  0xc055bece in panic (fmt=Variable "fmt" is not available.
) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:574
#3  0xc079041c in trap_fatal (frame=0xd5f9571c, eva=0) at
/usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:939
#4  0xc0790680 in trap_pfault (frame=0xd5f9571c, usermode=0, eva=0) at
/usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:852
#5  0xc0790fd9 in trap (frame=0xd5f9571c) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:530
#6  0xc077dbbb in calltrap () at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/exception.s:159
#7  0xc32b5239 in BLKWGDv7_sys_drv_data_start () from
/boot/modules/BLKWGDv7_sys.ko
Previous frame inner to this frame (corrupt stack?)

And from a Linksys crash
(kgdb) backtrace
#0  doadump () at pcpu.h:196
#1  0xc055bcc3 in boot (howto=260) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:418
#2  0xc055bece in panic (fmt=Variable "fmt" is not available.
) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:574
#3  0xc079041c in trap_fatal (frame=0xd600cb98, eva=382216) at
/usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:939
#4  0xc0790680 in trap_pfault (frame=0xd600cb98, usermode=0,
eva=382216) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:852
#5  0xc0790fd9 in trap (frame=0xd600cb98) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:530
#6  0xc077dbbb in calltrap () at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/exception.s:159
#7  0xc329dde6 in rt61_sys_drv_data_start () from /boot/modules/./rt61_sys.ko
Previous frame inner to this frame (corrupt stack?)

I hope this is what you were asking for. :)
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Re: boot0 / LILO / GRUB: dual boot FreeBSD and Linux

2009-07-01 Thread Nerius Landys
> I'm getting a new desktop through my university which will come
> installed with Windows Vista.  Obviously, my first action item will be
> removing Vista and installing a reasonable OS.  Due to the need to be
> up-and-running immediately with an OS that I'm comfortable with, I'll
> be installing Linux (probably Ubuntu).  But I'd like to set-up FreeBSD
> also.
>
> Which of the boot managers do you suggest I use?  Which OS should I
> install first?  Since I've never set-up a FreeBSD/Linux dual-boot
> system, I don't know what, if any, pitfalls to avoid.  I'm hoping some
> of you will have experience I can learn from.  Any relevant advice
> would be greatly appreciated.
>

Hi, I'm primarily an Ubuntu Linux user, but I've experimented with
FreeBSD desktops and servers quite a bit (servers especially).  One
thing I found to be really cool is the FreeBSD boot manager.  I would
strongly recommend using the FreeBSD boot manager because it's
completely standalone; it does not depend on any files or data sitting
in your partitions.  The boot manager sits within the first 512 bytes
of your hard drive (the MBR) and it does not need any other data to
function.  The way it works is simple.  Well first a disclaimer.  What
I describe here, I'm pretty confident that I know what I'm talking
about, but there is a chance that my knowledge is wrong.  In that case
please correct me, someone.

The FreeBSD boot manager (I don't know the official name for it off
the top of my head), when run, looks at the partitions on the hard
drive.  It then presents a menu, where you press a function key to
select which partition to boot.  It basically delegates the booting to
the boot record on the partition of your choice.

The way to set this up is as follows.  Well, I'm sure it's possible to
install FreeBSD first and then Linux, but I will describe it the other
way.

First install Linux normally (well leaving space on your hard drive
for a FreeBSD partition, which needs to be primary and not extended).
After you install Linux, boot up and do some magic where you install
the boot manager (such as Grub or Lilo) onto the boot record of the
Linux parttion.  Normally the boot manager for Linux will be installed
in the MBR, but put it on the partition's boot sector as well.

Now install FreeBSD.  Install the FreeBSD boot manager.  It will not
touch the Linux partition at all, the FreeBSD install will only write
to the FreeBSD partition and to the MBR.

I would not recommend using Grub as a boot manager (for the MBR)
because it depends on files sitting on your Linux partition as far as
I know.  So when you wipe your Linux partition for some reason you
won't be able to boot any more.  Same goes for Lilo I think.  The
FreeBSD boot manager does not depend on any data outside of the MBR,
so it will continue working properly after you wipe a partition clean.

See here: 
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/boot-blocks.html
It appears that the boot manager is called boot0.

If you ever want to back up your MBR for some reason, which includes
the partition table and the boot program, you can do something like
this:

dd if=/dev/hda of=my-mbr-saved-file bs=512 count=1

where "/dev/hda" would be changed depending on OS and hard disk
configuration.  Then you can restore the MBR:

dd if=my-mbr-saved-file of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1

But restoring should be done with extreme caution because it will
rewrite your partition table and could lead to lost data because of
that.

I have installed the FreeBSD boot manager by using dd after combining
the 446-byte long program with an existing partition table
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Re: FreeBSD support for 64-bit x86 systems

2009-07-01 Thread Sam Fourman Jr.
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 7:31 PM, Daniel Underwood wrote:
> Does FreeBSD currently support 64-bit x86 systems?

amd64 supports both amd and intel 64bit CPU's

right now the big limitation for me is you can not
have a Nvidia binary graphics driver on amd64

progress has been made on this front in the last month.


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Re: FreeBSD support for 64-bit x86 systems

2009-07-01 Thread Daniel Underwood
> amd64

Ah-hah. Thanks!
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Re: FreeBSD support for 64-bit x86 systems

2009-07-01 Thread Glen Barber
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 8:31 PM, Daniel Underwood wrote:
> Does FreeBSD currently support 64-bit x86 systems?
>
> I've been here, but my knowledge of hardware terminology is too
> limited to confidently draw conclusions:
> 

amd64


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FreeBSD support for 64-bit x86 systems

2009-07-01 Thread Daniel Underwood
Does FreeBSD currently support 64-bit x86 systems?

I've been here, but my knowledge of hardware terminology is too
limited to confidently draw conclusions:

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Re: POLL: Linux preferences from FreeBSD users

2009-07-01 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 18:58:15 -0400, Daniel Underwood  
wrote:
> QUESTION: Of the various modern Linux distributions, which do you
> prefer? and why?
>
> I'm very interested to see the spread of opinion about Linux
> distributions from FreeBSD fans.

Debian is the one I can almost tolerate.

There's a special place in hell for the people who write the source of
code of horrible, terrifying, ugly things like iptables and the default
packaging of GNU Emacs in Debian, but it's the one that I can tune a bit
to match my preferences :-)

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boot0 / LILO / GRUB: dual boot FreeBSD and Linux

2009-07-01 Thread Daniel Underwood
I'm getting a new desktop through my university which will come
installed with Windows Vista.  Obviously, my first action item will be
removing Vista and installing a reasonable OS.  Due to the need to be
up-and-running immediately with an OS that I'm comfortable with, I'll
be installing Linux (probably Ubuntu).  But I'd like to set-up FreeBSD
also.

Which of the boot managers do you suggest I use?  Which OS should I
install first?  Since I've never set-up a FreeBSD/Linux dual-boot
system, I don't know what, if any, pitfalls to avoid.  I'm hoping some
of you will have experience I can learn from.  Any relevant advice
would be greatly appreciated.

TIA,
Daniel
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Re: POLL: Linux preferences from FreeBSD users

2009-07-01 Thread Charlie Kester

On Wed 01 Jul 2009 at 16:12:40 PDT Christopher Ryan Halbersma wrote:

QUESTION: Of the various modern Linux distributions, which do you
prefer? and why?


None, I'm a BSD kindof guy 


Same here, but my other machine is a Mac (still BSD under the hood).
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Re: POLL: Linux preferences from FreeBSD users

2009-07-01 Thread Daniel Underwood
> of all the Linux distros I have tried, the least confusing is Gentoo
> Gentoo portage is "kinda" like FreeBSD ports

Yes, I'd like to give Gentoo a try.
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Re: POLL: Linux preferences from FreeBSD users

2009-07-01 Thread Glen Barber
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 6:58 PM, Daniel Underwood wrote:
> QUESTION: Of the various modern Linux distributions, which do you
> prefer? and why?
>
> I'm very interested to see the spread of opinion about Linux
> distributions from FreeBSD fans.

Although I am hesitant to contribute to what will most certainly turn
into a flamewar, I have used Fedora, *buntu, and OpenSuse.  Of those 3
distributions, *buntu tends to install the least nonsense -- OpenSuse
the most.

When I do need linux for something, I try to use some Ubuntu variant
as I can have better control over what is installed.

Of course, when I can control it, I install FreeBSD, as I have greater
control over everything.


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Re: POLL: Linux preferences from FreeBSD users

2009-07-01 Thread Sam Fourman Jr.
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Daniel Underwood wrote:
> QUESTION: Of the various modern Linux distributions, which do you
> prefer? and why?
>
> I'm very interested to see the spread of opinion about Linux
> distributions from FreeBSD fans.

of all the Linux distros I have tried, the least confusing is Gentoo
Gentoo portage is "kinda" like FreeBSD ports

they also have another project http://www.sabayonlinux.org/
that is Gentoo based, and I am hoping that one day

PC-BSD will grow into what Sabayon now is, but FreeBSD based.


in my Opinion, package management is the Big question that all os's
have to deal with.
things like debian's aptget do not handle upgrades very well.

PC-BSD has a Great start on this with "PBI's"


Sam Fourman Jr.
Fourma Networks
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Re: POLL: Linux preferences from FreeBSD users

2009-07-01 Thread Christopher Ryan Halbersma

QUESTION: Of the various modern Linux distributions, which do you
prefer? and why?


None, I'm a BSD kindof guy :).  Although Damn Small Linux and Tiny Core  
are nice ideas.



I'm very interested to see the spread of opinion about Linux
distributions from FreeBSD fans.


Indeed why?



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Re: Questions on portmaster

2009-07-01 Thread b. f.
Manish Jain wrote:
>...Does each child start 'make fetch' in the background ?

make checksum, yes.

>Further, how can portmaster be tuned to automatically ignore ports which
>are actually marked as IGNORE in the port directory ? This is not
>covered in the manpage.

It respects IGNORE (it checks for it in the port Makefile, and also
hands off to bsd.port.mk, which respects it).   If you mean +IGNOREME,
the others have answered your question.

>While doing portmaster -a, I have only managed to stop portmaster from
>building exactly one port specified with the -x option. Can I get to
>stop multiple ports from being built ? Is there regular expression
>support for the -x option ?

Not in the sense that you mean, at least that I'm aware of.  This one
of the things that needs improvement.  It is a bit awkward, because it
uses the shell's built-in POSIX getopts to parse options, and then
calls itself recursively.  One way you could fix it would be to apply
a patch like:

--- portmaster.orig 2009-07-01 12:36:14.0 -0400
+++ portmaster  2009-07-01 18:55:59.0 -0400
@@ -9,7 +9,7 @@
 if [ -z "$PARENT_PID" ]; then
PARENT_PID=$$
: ${TMPDIR:=/tmp}
-   UPGRADE_TOOL=portmaster
+   UPGRADE_TOOL=$0

# /usr/local is needed in the path for make
PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin
@@ -788,7 +788,11 @@
u)  UNATTENDED=uopt; ARGS="-u $ARGS" ;;
v)  PM_VERBOSE=vopt; ARGS="-v $ARGS" ;;
w)  SAVE_SHARED=wopt; ARGS="-w $ARGS" ;;
-   x)  EXCL=$OPTARG ;;
+   x)  if [ -z "${OPTARG%%-*}" ]; then
+   fail 'The -x option requires an argument'
+   else
+   EXCL="-x $OPTARG $EXCL"
+   fi ;;
*)  echo '' ; echo "===>>> Try ${0##*/} --help"; exit 1 ;;
esac
 done
@@ -810,10 +814,7 @@
 [ -n "$FETCH_ONLY" -a -n "$NO_RECURSIVE_CONFIG" ] &&
fail "The -F and -G options are mutually exclusive"
 if [ -n "$EXCL" ]; then
-   case "$EXCL" in
-   -*) fail 'The -x option requires an argument' ;;
-   *)  ARGS="-x $EXCL $ARGS" ;;
-   esac
+   ARGS="$EXCL $ARGS"
 fi

 #=== Begin functions for getopts features and main ===
@@ -1461,14 +1462,17 @@
 check_exclude () {
[ -n "$EXCL" ] || return 0

-   case "$1" in
-   *${EXCL}*)
-   if [ -n "$PM_VERBOSE" ]; then
-   echo "===>>> Skipping $1"
-   echo "   because it matches the pattern: *${EXCL}*"
-   fi
-   return 1 ;;
-   esac
+   for pkgglob in `echo "$EXCL" | sed -e 's#-x##g'`
+   do
+   case "$1" in
+   *${pkgglob}*)
+   if [ -n "$PM_VERBOSE" ]; then
+   echo "===>>> Skipping $1"
+   echo "   because it matches the pattern:
*${pkgglob}*"
+   fi
+   return 1 ;;
+   esac ;
+   done
return 0
 }


(Mind the whitespace because of my MUA.)  Then you could just use
repeated -x flags, each with one and only one package glob that you
wanted to exclude.  I changed the definition of UPGRADE_TOOL so that
you could put this script in your path under another name, say
"jainpmaster", and then call it independently of the original
portmaster.  As usual, I make no claim that this is the best, only, or
most elegant way to do this.

Regards,
b.
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Re: load kernel from different media

2009-07-01 Thread Sergio de Almeida Lenzi
Em Qua, 2009-07-01 às 22:40 +0100, Chris Whitehouse escreveu:


Yes you can.
put your kernel (the one that works) on a DVD/CD
assume that your rootfs on the HD is on ad0s1a, /usr is on /dev/ad0s1e
with all the /boot directory.
than boot from dvd/CD
with the HD on the machine too.

on the startup, hit 6 (number 6).
than type:
set vfs.root.mountfrom="ufs:ad0s1a"
boot -s

the machine will boot from the CD (with the kernel on the CD)
than will mount the filesystem / (root) using ufs and the
device /dev/ad0s1a
once boot, you can mount the / rw. 
mount -o rw /dev/ad0s1a /mnt
mount /dev/ad0s1e /usr

than.
export PATH=/mnt/sbin:/mnt/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin
mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0 /cdrom
cd /cdrom
tar cf - boot | tar -xpvf - -C /mnt
===
edit /mnt/fstab to match the /(root) fs .
==fstab=
/dev/ad0s1a/ufsrw11
=
fastboot
the machine will reboot and boot happy on the hd

hope it can help
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Re: POLL: Linux preferences from FreeBSD users

2009-07-01 Thread Jon Radel

Daniel Underwood wrote:


I'm very interested to see the spread of opinion about Linux
distributions from FreeBSD fans.


Why?

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POLL: Linux preferences from FreeBSD users

2009-07-01 Thread Daniel Underwood
QUESTION: Of the various modern Linux distributions, which do you
prefer? and why?

I'm very interested to see the spread of opinion about Linux
distributions from FreeBSD fans.
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Re: Cloning to different disks.

2009-07-01 Thread james
>> Each machine only has 1 hard disk, but they all have a CD ROM and USB
>> available.
>>
>> I have built a pristine system with all packages and ports installed
>> that I need.
>>
>> I am now wanting to clone this to all the machines. The dificulty being
>> that they all have various Disk sizes and interfaces (i.e. SCSI 3, SAS,
>> etc).
>>
> there is no difficulty.
>
> tar up your set to file, on disk or available on network (NFS for example)
>
>   boot from live CD, make disklabels, do newfs and untar your set on each
> machine, then change /etc/rc.conf - like hostname and IP

If he set up the original on the box with the smallest drive really he
need only make an image with dd on to a usb drive, boot to a live disk on
the new machine, and write the image to the new disk. On disks with
compatible interfaces you could temporarily install the drive and skip the
usb portion. After the write he'll need to mount the new drive and modify
rc.conf and fstab to the correct settings -- other then that he should be
good. No disk(re)labeling needed. Sure you might be out some space if the
other drives are substantially bigger but you can always add the
partitions later. Depends if time is of the essence or not I guess.

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Re: Wireless NICs on 7.2

2009-07-01 Thread Paul B. Mahol
On 7/1/09, Robert Hall  wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Paul B. Mahol wrote:
>> On 7/1/09, Robert Hall  wrote:
>>> I've been trying to get a Linksys WMP54G v. 4.1 to work on FBSD 7.2.
>>> It sort of works with the ral driver; I can set the ssid and inet and
>>> other values, but it won't associate with the access point or
>>> establish a useful connection.
>>
>> Does it get any scan results?
>
> Yes. Scanning seems to work fine.

And what about TX/RX signal?

>> What kind of AP setup: NONE, WEP, WPA, WPA2 ... ?
>
> No security.
>
>>> I've tried compiling ndis drivers for both the Linksys and a Belkin
>>> F5D7000 v. 7032 that I bought for my XP box. Both drivers crash the
>>> system when they load, leading to a reboot. Groveling through vmcore
>>> doesn't give me any clues about why the Belkin ndis crashes. The
>>> Linksys crash sends a message that it can't open
>>> /compat/ndis/rt2561s.bin. I googled for the firmware files and put
>>> them in /compat/ndis, but ndis still crashes. Both cards work fine on
>>> the XP box.
>
> BTW, I'm not getting the open file failed message any longer, but the
> ndis driver still crashes the system.

Could you put backtrace somewhere?
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/developers-handbook/kerneldebug-gdb.html


>> You are using i386 FreeBSD, right?
>
> I should have posted this originally:
> $ uname -a
> FreeBSD stamfordbru.krig.net 7.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE #3: Wed
> Jul  1 11:40:35 EDT 2009
> r...@stamfordbru.krig.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/STAMFORDBRU0  i386
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Re: scripting tip needed

2009-07-01 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 22:02:48 +0200 (CEST), Wojciech Puchar 
 wrote:
>> Using an interactive language like Python you can actually *test* the
>> code as you are writing it.  This is a major win most of the time.
>
> could you explain what you mean? You can and you have to test a code on
> any language be it bash, ksh python or C

Yes.  I mean that one can directly interact with the interpret in a REPL
prompt, doing stuff like:

>>> import re
>>> devre = re.compile(r'(/dev/\S+)\s+(\S+)\s.*$')
>>> devre
<_sre.SRE_Pattern object at 0x28462780>
>>> devre.match('/dev/ad0s1d 1012974 390512 541426 42% /var')
<_sre.SRE_Match object at 0x28432e78>
>>> devre.match('/dev/ad0s1d 1012974 390512 541426 42% /var').groups()
('/dev/ad0s1d', '1012974')
>>> devre =
>>> re.compile(r'(/dev/\S+)\s+(\S+)\s+(\S+)\s+(\S+)\s+(\S+)\s+(\S+).*$')
>>> devre.match('/dev/ad0s1d 1012974 390512 541426 42% /var').groups()
('/dev/ad0s1d', '1012974', '390512', '541426', '42%', '/var')

See how I am 'refining' the initial regular expression without ever
leaving the Python prompt?  That sort of interactivity is entirely lost
when you have to edit a file, save it, switch screen(1) windows or type
^Z to background the editor, run a script, watch it fail and repeat.

Then I can keep testing bits and pieces of code:

>>> from subprocess import Popen, PIPE
>>> pipe = Popen(['df', '-k'], shell=False, stdout=PIPE).stdout
>>> for l in pipe:
... m = devre.match(l)
... if m:
... print "device %s, size %ld KB" % (m.group(1), long(m.group(2)))
...
device /dev/ad0s1a, size 1012974 KB
device /dev/ad0s1d, size 1012974 KB
device /dev/ad0s1e, size 2026030 KB
device /dev/ad0s1f, size 10154158 KB
device /dev/ad0s1g, size 284455590 KB
device /dev/md0, size 19566 KB
>>>

So piping df output to a Python bit of code works!  That's nice.  Then
once I have a 'rough idea' of how I want the script to work, I can
refactor a bit the repetitive bits:

>>> def devsize(line):
... m = devre.match(line)
... if m:
... return (m.group(1), m.group(2))
...
>>> devsize('/dev/ad0s1d 1012974 390512 541426 42% /var')
('/dev/ad0s1d', '1012974')

So here's a short function to return a nice 2-item tuple with two values
(device name, number of 1 KB blocks).  Can we pipe df output through it?

>>> pipe = Popen(['df', '-k'], shell=False, stdout=PIPE).stdout
>>> pipe = Popen(['df', '-k'], shell=False, stdout=PIPE).stdout
>>> map(devsize, pipe.readlines())
[ None, ('/dev/ad0s1a', '1012974'), None, ('/dev/ad0s1d', '1012974'),
  ('/dev/ad0s1e', '2026030'), ('/dev/ad0s1f', '10154158'),
  ('/dev/ad0s1g', '284455590'), None, None, None, None, None, None,
  None, None, None, None, None, None, None, None,
  ('/dev/md0', '19566'), None]
>>>

It looks we can do that too, but the tuple list may be more useful if we
trim the null items in the process:

>>> pipe = Popen(['df', '-k'], shell=False, stdout=PIPE).stdout
>>> [t for t in map(devsize, pipe.readlines()) if t]
[ ('/dev/ad0s1a', '1012974'), ('/dev/ad0s1d', '1012974'),
  ('/dev/ad0s1e', '2026030'), ('/dev/ad0s1f', '10154158'),
  ('/dev/ad0s1g', '284455590'), ('/dev/md0', '19566') ]

So there it is.  A nice structure, supported by the core of the
language, using a readable, easy syntax, and listing all the /dev nodes
of my laptop along with their sizes in KBytes.

The entire thing was built 'piece by piece', in the same Python session,
and I now have not only a 'rough idea' of how the code should work, but
also a working copy of the code in my history.

Note the complete *lack* of care about how to append to a list, how to
create dynamic pairs of devicename-size tuples, how to map all elements
of a list through a function, and more importantly the complete and
utter lack of any sort of '"${[]}"' quoting for variable names, values,
nested expansions, and so on.

That's what I am talking about.  Shell scripts are nice, but if we are
not constrained for some reason to use only /bin/sh or ksh, there's no
excuse for wasting hours upon hours to decipher cryptic quoting rules
and exceptional edge-cases of "black quoting magic", just to get a short
job done.  Being able to _easily_ use higher level structures than a
plain 'stream of bytes' is nice :)


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Oracle, php and a Fog of Confusion oci_connect

2009-07-01 Thread Martin McCormick
I have a fragment of php code which connects to an external
Oracle data base. It looks mostly like:

   

We have had php5 installed on the system in question for
a couple of years and just successfully installed
linux-oracle-instantclient-sqlplus.

The info from php says it understands shared libraries.

If I run the code fragment via php using a script
starting with
#! /usr/local/bin/php

I get
#
Fatal error: Call to undefined function oci_connect() in 
/usr/home/martin/tmp/qtest on line 4

I am not terribly surprised since, unless a shared library
changed, php is the same old php we have had all this time.

Basically, I am confused as to what I need to do next to
weld the tail on the donkey.:-) Somehow, this all has to fit
together to produce the connection to the Oracle server.

The linux-oracle-instantclient-sqlplus  pkg-descr file
says:

Oracle instant client - SQLPlus distribution

Instant Client allows you to run your applications without installing
the standard Oracle client or having an ORACLE_HOME.  OCI, OCCI, ODBC,
and JDBC applications work without modification, while using
significantly less disk space than before.  Even SQL*Plus can be used
with Instant Client.  No recompile, no hassle.

Any suggestion? Obviously the php application hasn't
gotten wind of the instantclient yet.

Martin McCormick
Systems Engineer
405 744-7572   Stillwater, OK
Information Technology Department
Telecommunications Services Group
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load kernel from different media

2009-07-01 Thread Chris Whitehouse

Hi all,

I cannot boot my motherboard with the default kernel on 7.2-RELEASE (or 
any other iso's I have tried). It panics if device sbp is in the kernel. 
So far I've got things working by putting the hard disk in another 
machine, installed the OS and rebuilt a kernel without sbp, then 
returned the disk to my computer. That's ok for a one off install but 
this machine is supposed to be for messing around.


Can I load a kernel from some other media? Eg boot from an install CD, 
interrupt the boot, load a modified kernel from a usb stick or installed 
hard drive and continue booting from the CD.


At the boot prompt I can list disks with lsdev and I can load and unload 
a kernel from the media I booted from (obviously) but I can't see how to 
load a kernel from another disk.


I checked man 8 loader and man 8 boot but couldn't see what I wanted, 
hopefully I didn't just miss it. If the answer is in there I would 
really appreciate a pointer.


Thanks

Chris
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Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library.

2009-07-01 Thread Alexander Best
hi there,

i've been getting this warning for ages now:

(process:7757): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library.
Using the fallback 'C' locale.

and really like to get rid of it. i searched google but couldn't find a real
solution. my locale settings are:

LANG=C
LC_CTYPE=de_DE.ISO8859-15
LC_COLLATE=en_GB.ISO8859-15
LC_TIME=de_DE.ISO8859-15
LC_NUMERIC=de_DE.ISO8859-15
LC_MONETARY=de_DE.ISO8859-15
LC_MESSAGES=en_GB.ISO8859-15
LC_ALL=

i've tried various settings and the only way to get rid of the warning is
settings LANG and LC_ALL to "C". if any of the variables isn't set to C the
warning will come up again.

the app that is triggering the warning is firefox. the strange thing is that
all other gtk apps start without this warning except the acrobat reader which
is however a linux app. i thought maybe the problem is being caused by
linux-gtk2 port. i'm using the native freebsd firefox version but since i'm
using linux plugins in firefox they might be causing the gtk warning.

i did a `chroot /compat/linux bash` and ran locale (the linux version). this
is the output:

locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
LANG=C
LC_CTYPE=de_DE.ISO8859-15
LC_NUMERIC=de_DE.ISO8859-15
LC_TIME=de_DE.ISO8859-15
LC_COLLATE=en_GB.ISO8859-15
LC_MONETARY=de_DE.ISO8859-15
LC_MESSAGES=en_GB.ISO8859-15
LC_PAPER="C"
LC_NAME="C"
LC_ADDRESS="C"
LC_TELEPHONE="C"
LC_MEASUREMENT="C"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="C"
LC_ALL=

if i set LANG and LC_ALL to "C" under the native freebsd ENV and switch to the
linux ENV locale's (linux version) output looks just fine:

LANG=C
LC_CTYPE="C"
LC_NUMERIC="C"
LC_TIME="C"
LC_COLLATE="C"
LC_MONETARY="C"
LC_MESSAGES="C"
LC_PAPER="C"
LC_NAME="C"
LC_ADDRESS="C"
LC_TELEPHONE="C"
LC_MEASUREMENT="C"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="C"
LC_ALL=C

so i guess the GTK warning is in fact being triggered by the linux-gtk2 port.
can anybody tell me what's wrong with the linux ENV locale settings?

thanks in advance.
alex
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Re: Cloning to different disks.

2009-07-01 Thread Manolis Kiagias
Grant Peel wrote:
> Thanks Sir!
>
>
> What is the easiest way to make sure the new disk is bootable.
>
> Also, it just occured to mewe have a few different versions of
> SCSI drives SCSI-2 SAS etc.
>
> Can I assume the the da driver will handle all these OK...ie. should
> not see any fstab problems?
>
> -Grant
>
>

For fstab, I would consider labelling the partitions (see
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/geom-glabel.html
esp. the example at the end of the section).
I am not very familiar with SCSI disks, but all should appear as 'da',
the only problem is whether the drivers for the specific SCSI adapters
are already in GENERIC. Otherwise, you would need to load them as
modules or compile them in a custom kernel.

To make sure your new disk is bootable:

# fdisk -B -b /boot/boot0 /dev/da0  (use actual device name of course)

or if you just need a standard MBR (no custom F1 ... F2 boot menu at start):

# fdisk -B -b /boot/mbr /dev/da0

Then install boot1 and boot2 in your boot slice:

# bsdlabel -B /dev/da0s1

For more information, see this handbook section:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/boot-blocks.html
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Re: scripting tip needed

2009-07-01 Thread Wojciech Puchar

Using an interactive language like Python you can actually *test* the
code as you are writing it.  This is a major win most of the time.


could you explain what you mean? You can and you have to test a code on 
any language be it bash, ksh python or C

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Re: scripting tip needed

2009-07-01 Thread Wojciech Puchar


$ echo ${MACHINE_DISK0[$y]}

$ echo ${MACHINE_DISK$z[$y]}
ksh: ${MACHINE_DISK$z[$y]}: bad substitution

Thanks in advance for any tip


install bash :)
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Re: gmirror per partition. Was: Re: gmirror gm0 destroyed on shutdown; GPT corrupt

2009-07-01 Thread Wojciech Puchar

It's better to use gmirror per partition.


Like this?

# gmirror label -vb round-robin root /dev/da0p2
gmirror: Can't store metadata on /dev/da0p2: Operation not permitted.

isn't that partition accessed by other process or mounted?
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Re: FreeBSD on Cobalt RaQ 4

2009-07-01 Thread Wojciech Puchar

As i figured out, there is a ROM on it with a mini-Linux, that will
look for an ext2/ext3 filesystem and for an /vmlinux.bz2 on /boot.
Then it boots from there. This is really strange and seems to rule out
FreeBSD completely.


Looks like you'll have to rewrite /boot/loader sources to

1) access disk with it's "minilinux" interface, or directly by hardware
2) to look like vmlinux image. If it's ELF - should not be a problem, if 
not - look how linux kernel makefile convert ELF to this format and do the 
same.


This ROM code may do some assumption where to load image in memory. If so 
- you have to link if to the same address.



Not easy way i think but not that difficult if you can write C programs.



However, I can't believe that noone on earth hadn't FreeBSD running
on it :-)

Any hint would be appreciated. As an alternative, i could live with
OpenBSD/NetBSD too.


i would even prefer linux than those ;)
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Re: Cloning to different disks.

2009-07-01 Thread Wojciech Puchar



What is the easiest way to make sure the new disk is bootable.


bsdlabel -B disk (or disks1 and fdisk -B disk if you use MBR partitions at 
all).


Also, it just occured to mewe have a few different versions of SCSI 
drives SCSI-2 SAS etc.


this is no difference



Can I assume the the da driver will handle all these OK...ie. should not see 
any fstab problems?


just put right device names in fstab. nothing more
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Re: Cloning to different disks.

2009-07-01 Thread Wojciech Puchar

Each machine only has 1 hard disk, but they all have a CD ROM and USB available.

I have built a pristine system with all packages and ports installed that I 
need.

I am now wanting to clone this to all the machines. The dificulty being that 
they all have various Disk sizes and interfaces (i.e. SCSI 3, SAS, etc).




there is no difficulty.

tar up your set to file, on disk or available on network (NFS for example)

 boot from live CD, make disklabels, do newfs and untar your set on each 
machine, then change /etc/rc.conf - like hostname and IP

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Re: Cloning to different disks.

2009-07-01 Thread Grant Peel

Thanks Sir!


What is the easiest way to make sure the new disk is bootable.

Also, it just occured to mewe have a few different versions of SCSI 
drives SCSI-2 SAS etc.


Can I assume the the da driver will handle all these OK...ie. should not see 
any fstab problems?


-Grant



- Original Message - 
From: "Manolis Kiagias" 

To: "Grant Peel" 
Cc: 
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 3:40 PM
Subject: Re: Cloning to different disks.



Grant Peel wrote:

Hi all,

I have serveral machines that are running different versions of FreeBSD.

Each machine only has 1 hard disk, but they all have a CD ROM and USB 
available.


I have built a pristine system with all packages and ports installed that 
I need.


I am now wanting to clone this to all the machines. The dificulty being 
that they all have various Disk sizes and interfaces (i.e. SCSI 3, SAS, 
etc).


I am wondering how everyone else might handle this situation. BTW, The 
new build uses a standard Generic kernel, i386 build.


I was thinking of:

Booting with a live CD, refdisking, labeling, then using dumps from 
memory stick.


Comments please,

-Grant



Done that and it works. Don't forget also to install  the boot blocks.
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Re: Cloning to different disks.

2009-07-01 Thread Manolis Kiagias
Grant Peel wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have serveral machines that are running different versions of FreeBSD.
>
> Each machine only has 1 hard disk, but they all have a CD ROM and USB 
> available.
>
> I have built a pristine system with all packages and ports installed that I 
> need.
>
> I am now wanting to clone this to all the machines. The dificulty being that 
> they all have various Disk sizes and interfaces (i.e. SCSI 3, SAS, etc).
>
> I am wondering how everyone else might handle this situation. BTW, The new 
> build uses a standard Generic kernel, i386 build.
>
> I was thinking of:
>
> Booting with a live CD, refdisking, labeling, then using dumps from memory 
> stick.
>
> Comments please,
>
> -Grant
>   

Done that and it works. Don't forget also to install  the boot blocks.
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Cloning to different disks.

2009-07-01 Thread Grant Peel
Hi all,

I have serveral machines that are running different versions of FreeBSD.

Each machine only has 1 hard disk, but they all have a CD ROM and USB available.

I have built a pristine system with all packages and ports installed that I 
need.

I am now wanting to clone this to all the machines. The dificulty being that 
they all have various Disk sizes and interfaces (i.e. SCSI 3, SAS, etc).

I am wondering how everyone else might handle this situation. BTW, The new 
build uses a standard Generic kernel, i386 build.

I was thinking of:

Booting with a live CD, refdisking, labeling, then using dumps from memory 
stick.

Comments please,

-Grant
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Re: scripting tip needed

2009-07-01 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 18:40:00 +0100, Alexandre Vieira  wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> I'm having a little problem.
>
> For exambe in ksh:
>
> $ z=0
> $ y=1
> $ x=
> $ eval `echo MACHINE_DISK$z[$y]`=$x
> $ echo ${MACHINE_DISK0[1]}
> 
>
> My problem is getting back the value of the variable using variables to
> refer to the variable name (confusing). I.e $MACHINE_DISK$z[$y] .
>
> Using ${} works great when you only have a simple array but adding a
> variable in the middle of the variable name seems to ruin it.
>
> $ echo ${MACHINE_DISK0[$y]}
> 
> $ echo ${MACHINE_DISK$z[$y]}
> ksh: ${MACHINE_DISK$z[$y]}: bad substitution

My own short piece of (slightly off-topic) advice is:

  ``If you find yourself using arrays in bash, ksh or another shell,
  now is a *very* good time to consider a more advanced scripting
  language, like Perl or Python.''

Trying to coerce shell quoting to do a sensible thing with array syntax
is error-prone, annoying and --very often-- a waste of your time:

Using an interactive language like Python you can actually *test* the
code as you are writing it.  This is a major win most of the time.

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Re: ANNOUNCE: Custom GNOME-based FreeBSD iso released

2009-07-01 Thread Sergio de Almeida Lenzi
Em Qua, 2009-07-01 às 13:51 -0400, Trey Sizemore escreveu:

> On Tue Jun 30, 2009 09:45AM, Tim Judd wrote:
> > On 6/30/09, Andrew Gould  wrote:
> > > 2009/6/30 Manolis Kiagias :
> > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > >> Hash: SHA1
> > >>
> > >> Hey all,
> > >>
> > >> Continuing the effort in producing custom FreeBSD builds, I am pleased
> > >> to announce a GNOME-based one.
> > >> This includes a complete GNOME 2.26.2 desktop and also the
> > >> gnome-power-tools and gnome-fifth-toe package collections.
> > >>
> > >> As always, feedback is welcome.

Humm ... interesting...

I am doing the same thing here (for personal use), 
besides gnome2-fith-toe, and power-tools,
ARCH is AMD64
I have:
totem-xine (better because of snapshot, and zoom in/out)
ffmpeg svn (better libavcodec)
dvdstyler 1.7, with wxsvg 1.0R, and ffmpeg svn (new features, new option
menus and navigation tools)
mencode, mplayer last release (linked against libavcodec, faster, and
with swscale, in ffmeg)
pgadmin3 (linked to work with UTF8)
glib20 patched to solve the evolution slow start.
mono 2.4.2 and companies (monodevelop, gnome-subtitles...)
jdk1.6p14  (java 1.6 last bsd patches)
openoffice 3.2  M50 (last patches from openoffice team
avidemux 2.4.2  (better and faster, with last seamonkey software)
epiphany linked agains the webkit-gtk (works better for me than the
firefox2 render engine)
Linux 2.4.2 and F8 (you choose)
Flashplugin9 running on AMD64 with few cpu overhead
ZFS BASED rootFS , with var, usr, tmp on ZFS too
GDM version 1.8 whtin the old tools (gdmsetup, conf files)
Xorg last version with working HAL and DBUS  (including mouse and
keyboard mapping).
If there is interest in the FreeBSD community I will try to put an image
in internet   (ONE pkg_add installs them all).

Hope is usefull,

Sérgio




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Re: Google Earth on FreeBSD 7.0

2009-07-01 Thread Christopher Ryan Halbersma


On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 12:45:52 +0300, Mike Barnard  
 wrote:
LD_LIBRARY_PATH has that path in its entry. Is there something I am  
missing.



If google earth program is a Linux program, have you installed and
started the Linux ABI? Maybe the needed library will be required
to be located in the /usr/compat/linux/ subtree.





Anybody managed to get it to work?



Never tried, sorry.


Google earth is working on my box. But I am running 7.2 Release.
However it is touchy.  It will often crash the X server, it's slow and
if I change Virtual Desktops during startup It will crash very fast.

CRH
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Re: Wireless NICs on 7.2

2009-07-01 Thread Robert Hall
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Paul B. Mahol wrote:
> On 7/1/09, Robert Hall  wrote:
>> I've been trying to get a Linksys WMP54G v. 4.1 to work on FBSD 7.2.
>> It sort of works with the ral driver; I can set the ssid and inet and
>> other values, but it won't associate with the access point or
>> establish a useful connection.
>
> Does it get any scan results?

Yes. Scanning seems to work fine.

> What kind of AP setup: NONE, WEP, WPA, WPA2 ... ?

No security.

>> I've tried compiling ndis drivers for both the Linksys and a Belkin
>> F5D7000 v. 7032 that I bought for my XP box. Both drivers crash the
>> system when they load, leading to a reboot. Groveling through vmcore
>> doesn't give me any clues about why the Belkin ndis crashes. The
>> Linksys crash sends a message that it can't open
>> /compat/ndis/rt2561s.bin. I googled for the firmware files and put
>> them in /compat/ndis, but ndis still crashes. Both cards work fine on
>> the XP box.

BTW, I'm not getting the open file failed message any longer, but the
ndis driver still crashes the system.

> You are using i386 FreeBSD, right?

I should have posted this originally:
$ uname -a
FreeBSD stamfordbru.krig.net 7.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE #3: Wed
Jul  1 11:40:35 EDT 2009
r...@stamfordbru.krig.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/STAMFORDBRU0  i386
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FreeBSD on Cobalt RaQ 4

2009-07-01 Thread Frank Steinborn
Hi!

I got a new toy here, a RaQ 4. As this thing has no real BIOS, it was
even hard to get a custom Linux distro installed. For long time it was
not even possible to use it with a Linux 2.6 kernel. This is resolved
in the meantime, so I'm running Gentoo with an unmodified 2.6 at the
moment.

However, I'm absolutely not at home with Linux and I would *love* to
have a FreeBSD on that thingy.

As i figured out, there is a ROM on it with a mini-Linux, that will
look for an ext2/ext3 filesystem and for an /vmlinux.bz2 on /boot.
Then it boots from there. This is really strange and seems to rule out
FreeBSD completely.

However, I can't believe that noone on earth hadn't FreeBSD running
on it :-)

Any hint would be appreciated. As an alternative, i could live with
OpenBSD/NetBSD too.

Cheers :)
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scripting tip needed

2009-07-01 Thread Alexandre Vieira
Hi folks,

I'm having a little problem.

For exambe in ksh:

$ z=0
$ y=1
$ x=
$ eval `echo MACHINE_DISK$z[$y]`=$x
$ echo ${MACHINE_DISK0[1]}


My problem is getting back the value of the variable using variables to
refer to the variable name (confusing). I.e $MACHINE_DISK$z[$y] .

Using ${} works great when you only have a simple array but adding a
variable in the middle of the variable name seems to ruin it.

$ echo ${MACHINE_DISK0[$y]}

$ echo ${MACHINE_DISK$z[$y]}
ksh: ${MACHINE_DISK$z[$y]}: bad substitution

Thanks in advance for any tip
Cheers
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Re: ANNOUNCE: Custom GNOME-based FreeBSD iso released

2009-07-01 Thread Trey Sizemore
On Tue Jun 30, 2009 09:45AM, Tim Judd wrote:
> On 6/30/09, Andrew Gould  wrote:
> > 2009/6/30 Manolis Kiagias :
> >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> >> Hash: SHA1
> >>
> >> Hey all,
> >>
> >> Continuing the effort in producing custom FreeBSD builds, I am pleased
> >> to announce a GNOME-based one.
> >> This includes a complete GNOME 2.26.2 desktop and also the
> >> gnome-power-tools and gnome-fifth-toe package collections.
> >>
> >> As always, feedback is welcome.
> >>
> >> Manolis Kiagias
> >
> > It would be interesting to see how much demand exists for an
> > installation DVD with KDE 3.5.  (KDE lost a large amount of voter
> > share in Linux Journal's last Readers' Choice Awards.)
> >
> > Does anyone know how long KDE 3.5 will be available in the ports?
> > (Expecting its eventual demise, I switched to Gnome, then to XFCE4.)
> >
> > Andrew
> 
> 
> When I run KDE, I run KDE4.  I'm not asking for someone to generate a
> KDE3.5 or KDE4 install medium, but where is the line?
> 
> If we make XFCE4, and Gnome2.26, why not Enlightenment, Blackbox,
> KDE3.5, KDE4, etc etc etc?
> 
> 
> 
> Earlier, I made hints at a webGUI install (the install medium would
> boot into X, basic setup (VESA driver @1024x768, 24 [or 16bit]
> depth)), run firefox or another lightweight browser (even lynx in the
> console if X fails to start) on it's own filesystem or over apache.
> Once network configuration is done, you can pull the data sets for
> your choice of WM from the internet.
> 
> 
> I think this has potential, and would offer making it (already started
> on it), but I think my statements went on deaf ears when addressed to
> the broad public.
> 
> So I'll ask again if anyone else would be interested in this.  The
> advantage is that on this webGUI install, you can offer it (secured of
> course) over the internet for someone more technical to do the install
> or configuring, including the same post-install configuration that
> sysinstall offers.
> 
> 
> 
> Anybody else think it's a good idea?  Willing to take suggestions.
> Would satisfy my "designing" and "creativity" mindset I'm in right
> now.

I would definitely like to see something like this.

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Re: Wireless NICs on 7.2

2009-07-01 Thread Paul B. Mahol
On 7/1/09, Robert Hall  wrote:
> I've been trying to get a Linksys WMP54G v. 4.1 to work on FBSD 7.2.
> It sort of works with the ral driver; I can set the ssid and inet and
> other values, but it won't associate with the access point or
> establish a useful connection.

Does it get any scan results?
What kind of AP setup: NONE, WEP, WPA, WPA2 ... ?

>
> I've tried compiling ndis drivers for both the Linksys and a Belkin
> F5D7000 v. 7032 that I bought for my XP box. Both drivers crash the
> system when they load, leading to a reboot. Groveling through vmcore
> doesn't give me any clues about why the Belkin ndis crashes. The
> Linksys crash sends a message that it can't open
> /compat/ndis/rt2561s.bin. I googled for the firmware files and put
> them in /compat/ndis, but ndis still crashes. Both cards work fine on
> the XP box.

You are using i386 FreeBSD, right?

> Has anyone gotten either card to work on 7.2, either by using the ral
> driver or by compiling an ndis driver?
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Wireless NICs on 7.2

2009-07-01 Thread Robert Hall
I've been trying to get a Linksys WMP54G v. 4.1 to work on FBSD 7.2.
It sort of works with the ral driver; I can set the ssid and inet and
other values, but it won't associate with the access point or
establish a useful connection.

I've tried compiling ndis drivers for both the Linksys and a Belkin
F5D7000 v. 7032 that I bought for my XP box. Both drivers crash the
system when they load, leading to a reboot. Groveling through vmcore
doesn't give me any clues about why the Belkin ndis crashes. The
Linksys crash sends a message that it can't open
/compat/ndis/rt2561s.bin. I googled for the firmware files and put
them in /compat/ndis, but ndis still crashes. Both cards work fine on
the XP box.

Has anyone gotten either card to work on 7.2, either by using the ral
driver or by compiling an ndis driver?
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Re: Questions on portmaster

2009-07-01 Thread Roland Smith
On Wed, Jul 01, 2009 at 11:32:47AM +0530, Manish Jain wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I am using portmaster on FreeBSD-7.2 to keep my ports up to date. When 
> there are multiple ports to be updated, portmaster will fork off child 
> processes. Does each child start 'make fetch' in the background ?

The fetches are not done in parallel.

> I ask 
> this because the parent process attached to the console reports very low 
> data transfer rates (in the range of 0.7 to 4.0 kBps, while normally I 
> get 30 to 35 kBps).

This is not enough data to ascertain there is a problem with fetch.
If you are fetching from a busy site, or via a busy upstream channel it
can be slow.

> Further, how can portmaster be tuned to automatically ignore ports which 
> are actually marked as IGNORE in the port directory ?

touch /var/db/pkg//+IGNOREME

> This is not covered in the manpage.

It is. Look in the FILES section of portmaster(8).
 
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Re: strange ee behaviour

2009-07-01 Thread Alexander Best
thanks for the help. i submitted a PR
(http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=136223).

cheers.
alex

Paul B. Mahol schrieb am 2009-07-01:
> On 7/1/09, Alexander Best  wrote:
> > oh. i see. is this hard to fix? maybe a problem report would be
> > useful?

> Not hard. Please report problem to freebsd developers because
> everything
> points it is FreeBSD problem.


> > cheers.

> > Paul B. Mahol schrieb am 2009-07-01:
> >> On 7/1/09, Paul B. Mahol  wrote:
> >> > On 7/1/09, Alexander Best 
> >> > wrote:
> >> >> i'm running xorg-7.4.2 and x11-wm/awesome on HEAD (r195173).
> >> >> when
> >> >> i run
> >> >> ee
> >> >> in
> >> >> the debugger and open another xterm the debugger says "Program
> >> >> exited
> >> >> normally.". so it's not a program crash i guess.

> >> >> Paul B. Mahol schrieb am 2009-07-01:
> >> >>> On 6/30/09, Alexander Best 
> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >>> > hi there,

> >> >>> > i'm experiencing this strange `ee` behaviour lately. when i
> >> >>> > open
> >> >>> > `ee` in an
> >> >>> > xterm and open another xterm `ee` simply exits. if i try to
> >> >>> > enter
> >> >>> > commands
> >> >>> > which output to sdtout/stderr like `ls` on the xterm window
> >> >>> > ee
> >> >>> > was
> >> >>> > running
> >> >>> > on
> >> >>> > the output is a mess.

> >> >>> > i'm running r195173 (HEAD).

> >> >>> Can't reproduce. Which X environment do you use?

> >> > Actually I can, if I resize xterm window, ee will exit.
> >> > You really should mentioned that you use awesome at first place.

> >> Problems is that ee doesnt handle SIGWINCH properly.
> >> ee on FreeBSD is linked with ncurses but new_curse.c from
> >> contrib/ee
> >> is
> >> only file that mentions SIGWINCH and that file is not part of
> >> usr.bin/ee/Makefile




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Re: Questions on portmaster

2009-07-01 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
On Wed, Jul 01, 2009 at 11:14:10AM -0400, mfv wrote:
> On Wednesday, 1 July 2009 02:02:47 Manish Jain wrote:

> excluded.  Nevertheless, I use portmaster daily and am very pleased with it.
> 
> With thanks to Doug Barton.

portmaster rules, excellent tool, Doug is a star!

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Re: Questions on portmaster

2009-07-01 Thread mfv
On Wednesday, 1 July 2009 02:02:47 Manish Jain wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am using portmaster on FreeBSD-7.2 to keep my ports up to date. When
> there are multiple ports to be updated, portmaster will fork off child
> processes. Does each child start 'make fetch' in the background ? I ask
> this because the parent process attached to the console reports very low
> data transfer rates (in the range of 0.7 to 4.0 kBps, while normally I
> get 30 to 35 kBps).
>
> Further, how can portmaster be tuned to automatically ignore ports which
> are actually marked as IGNORE in the port directory ? This is not
> covered in the manpage.
>
> While doing portmaster -a, I have only managed to stop portmaster from
> building exactly one port specified with the -x option. Can I get to
> stop multiple ports from being built ? Is there regular expression
> support for the -x option ?
>
> Thanks for any help.

Hello Manish,

Regarding your last point about excluding particular ports I always thought 
that it would be convenient to have a section in /usr/local/etc/portmaster.rc 
and/or $HOME/.portmasterrc to identify these particular ports.  I prefer to 
have all this information in one place rather than scattered over many 
subdirectories.

I had the same problem with trying to have multiple instances of "-x" but gave 
up and used +IGNOREME instead.  Some time ago I succeeded with a regular 
expression but it became overly complicated if more than two ports were to be 
excluded.  Nevertheless, I use portmaster daily and am very pleased with it.

With thanks to Doug Barton.

Cheers...

Marek

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Re: Portaudit strange behavior.

2009-07-01 Thread mfv
On Wednesday, 1 July 2009 02:02:47 Arek Czereszewski wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On all my servers I have portaudit version 0.5.13
> If I try update audit database (by hand or from periodic script)
> I have:
>
> # portaudit -Fd
> auditfile.tbz 100% of   53 kB   39 kBps
> portaudit: Database too old.
> Old database restored.
> portaudit: Download failed.
> #
>
> When I change
>
> ${portaudit_sites="http://portaudit.FreeBSD.org/"}
> to
> ${portaudit_sites="http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/"}
> Like was in 0.5.12
> # portaudit -Fd
> auditfile.tbz 100% of   56 kB   34 kBps
> New database installed.
> Database created: Wed Jul  1 07:40:02 CEST 2009
> Update work fine.
>
> Anyone have behavior like I have?
>
> regards
> Arek

Hello Arek,

I've had the same problem for the last few days.  Thanks for a temporary 
solution.

Marek

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Re: Failing to show 'Password:' prompt

2009-07-01 Thread Manolis Kiagias
Nikos Vassiliadis wrote:
> Manolis Kiagias wrote:
>> This morning my server was unresponsive both from ssh and through
>> http. The only thing that is different on this system on a 1st of
>> month, is a dump job that runs through periodic (on a mostly inactive
>> system).
>>
>> Visiting the console, I discovered the system was still up and
>> displaying login prompt on all vtys, but after typing a username, the
>> password prompt would never appear. Keyboard was responsive and I
>> could even switch between keyboard layouts (English/Greek). Plugging
>> and and unplugging an external USB drive, showed the kernel messages
>> on tty0. Still, I could not get it to display a password prompt and
>> had to hard reboot it.
>>
>> I can't find anything in /var/log/messages either - it stops at 5.25
>> in the morning.  And the dump was not performed either (and there are
>> no traces about it in the log).
>>
>> What kind of crash could cause the password prompt to not display?
>> Ideas?
>
> Geia Manoli,
>
> A deadlock somewhere in the filesystem code would expose
> such behavior. Other subsystems may continue to work, but
> some operations, somehow related to that filesystem code,
> will wait - forever - for some locks to be released.
>
> I've seen such behavior in early RELENG_6 branch with regard
> to UFS snapshots.
>
> Nikos
>
>
Thanks Niko,

This is quite possible actually as I was using dump -L and the USB
backup disk was still mounted when I looked at the console messages.
I'll check the PR database for dump-related problems.
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Re: strange ee behaviour

2009-07-01 Thread Paul B. Mahol
On 7/1/09, Alexander Best  wrote:
> oh. i see. is this hard to fix? maybe a problem report would be useful?

Not hard. Please report problem to freebsd developers because everything
points it is FreeBSD problem.

>
> cheers.
>
> Paul B. Mahol schrieb am 2009-07-01:
>> On 7/1/09, Paul B. Mahol  wrote:
>> > On 7/1/09, Alexander Best  wrote:
>> >> i'm running xorg-7.4.2 and x11-wm/awesome on HEAD (r195173). when
>> >> i run
>> >> ee
>> >> in
>> >> the debugger and open another xterm the debugger says "Program
>> >> exited
>> >> normally.". so it's not a program crash i guess.
>
>> >> Paul B. Mahol schrieb am 2009-07-01:
>> >>> On 6/30/09, Alexander Best 
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> > hi there,
>
>> >>> > i'm experiencing this strange `ee` behaviour lately. when i
>> >>> > open
>> >>> > `ee` in an
>> >>> > xterm and open another xterm `ee` simply exits. if i try to
>> >>> > enter
>> >>> > commands
>> >>> > which output to sdtout/stderr like `ls` on the xterm window ee
>> >>> > was
>> >>> > running
>> >>> > on
>> >>> > the output is a mess.
>
>> >>> > i'm running r195173 (HEAD).
>
>> >>> Can't reproduce. Which X environment do you use?
>
>> > Actually I can, if I resize xterm window, ee will exit.
>> > You really should mentioned that you use awesome at first place.
>
>> Problems is that ee doesnt handle SIGWINCH properly.
>> ee on FreeBSD is linked with ncurses but new_curse.c from contrib/ee
>> is
>> only file that mentions SIGWINCH and that file is not part of
>> usr.bin/ee/Makefile
>
>


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gmirror per partition. Was: Re: gmirror gm0 destroyed on shutdown; GPT corrupt

2009-07-01 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 09:41:13AM -0700, Marcel Moolenaar wrote:
> 
> On Jun 25, 2009, at 4:02 AM, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
> > dev_taste(DEV,mirror/gm0)
> > g_part_taste(PART,mirror/gm0)
> >
> > GEOM: mirror/gm0: the secondary GPT table is corrupt or invalid.
> > GEOM: mirror/gm0: using the primary only -- recovery suggested.
> > ^^^
> 
> You created the mirror after the GPT, which means you destroyed
> the GPT backup header. gmirror uses the last sector on the disk
> for metadata and that by itself is a cause for various problems.
> 
> It's better to use gmirror per partition.

Like this?

# gmirror label -vb round-robin root /dev/da0p2
gmirror: Can't store metadata on /dev/da0p2: Operation not permitted.
#

I've read some boot disk gmirror examples, e.g.

http://people.freebsd.org/~rse/mirror

however, all examples I've seen are for i386, talking about MBR, fdisk
and bsdlabel, so these are not directly applicable to ia64.

Application of gvinum for boot disk on ia64 is not clear either.
It seems gvinum section of the handbook, 21.9, is also based on i386.

Please advise

many thanks
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Re: Google Earth on FreeBSD 7.0

2009-07-01 Thread Polytropon
On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 12:45:52 +0300, Mike Barnard  wrote:
> LD_LIBRARY_PATH has that path in its entry. Is there something I am missing.

If google earth program is a Linux program, have you installed and
started the Linux ABI? Maybe the needed library will be required
to be located in the /usr/compat/linux/ subtree.



> Anybody managed to get it to work?

Never tried, sorry.

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Re: strange ee behaviour

2009-07-01 Thread Alexander Best
oh. i see. is this hard to fix? maybe a problem report would be useful?

cheers.

Paul B. Mahol schrieb am 2009-07-01:
> On 7/1/09, Paul B. Mahol  wrote:
> > On 7/1/09, Alexander Best  wrote:
> >> i'm running xorg-7.4.2 and x11-wm/awesome on HEAD (r195173). when
> >> i run
> >> ee
> >> in
> >> the debugger and open another xterm the debugger says "Program
> >> exited
> >> normally.". so it's not a program crash i guess.

> >> Paul B. Mahol schrieb am 2009-07-01:
> >>> On 6/30/09, Alexander Best 
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > hi there,

> >>> > i'm experiencing this strange `ee` behaviour lately. when i
> >>> > open
> >>> > `ee` in an
> >>> > xterm and open another xterm `ee` simply exits. if i try to
> >>> > enter
> >>> > commands
> >>> > which output to sdtout/stderr like `ls` on the xterm window ee
> >>> > was
> >>> > running
> >>> > on
> >>> > the output is a mess.

> >>> > i'm running r195173 (HEAD).

> >>> Can't reproduce. Which X environment do you use?

> > Actually I can, if I resize xterm window, ee will exit.
> > You really should mentioned that you use awesome at first place.

> Problems is that ee doesnt handle SIGWINCH properly.
> ee on FreeBSD is linked with ncurses but new_curse.c from contrib/ee
> is
> only file that mentions SIGWINCH and that file is not part of
> usr.bin/ee/Makefile

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Google Earth on FreeBSD 7.0

2009-07-01 Thread Mike Barnard
Hi,

I have installed Google Earth via ports but cannot get it to run. If i run
it from console, i get this:

> googleearth
./googleearth-bin: error while loading shared libraries:
libgthread-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or
directory
>


I have searched for the library it says it cannot find. It is located in
/usr/local/lib; /usr/local/lib/libgthread-2.0.so.0

LD_LIBRARY_PATH has that path in its entry. Is there something I am missing.
Anybody managed to get it to work?

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Re: Failing to show 'Password:' prompt

2009-07-01 Thread Nikos Vassiliadis

Manolis Kiagias wrote:
This morning my server was unresponsive both from ssh and through http. 
The only thing that is different on this system on a 1st of month, is a 
dump job that runs through periodic (on a mostly inactive system).


Visiting the console, I discovered the system was still up and 
displaying login prompt on all vtys, but after typing a username, the 
password prompt would never appear. Keyboard was responsive and I could 
even switch between keyboard layouts (English/Greek). Plugging and and 
unplugging an external USB drive, showed the kernel messages on tty0. 
Still, I could not get it to display a password prompt and had to hard 
reboot it.


I can't find anything in /var/log/messages either - it stops at 5.25 in 
the morning.  And the dump was not performed either (and there are no 
traces about it in the log).


What kind of crash could cause the password prompt to not display? Ideas?


Geia Manoli,

A deadlock somewhere in the filesystem code would expose
such behavior. Other subsystems may continue to work, but
some operations, somehow related to that filesystem code,
will wait - forever - for some locks to be released.

I've seen such behavior in early RELENG_6 branch with regard
to UFS snapshots.

Nikos
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Re: Failing to show 'Password:' prompt

2009-07-01 Thread Paul B. Mahol
On 7/1/09, Manolis Kiagias  wrote:
> This morning my server was unresponsive both from ssh and through http.
> The only thing that is different on this system on a 1st of month, is a
> dump job that runs through periodic (on a mostly inactive system).
>
> Visiting the console, I discovered the system was still up and
> displaying login prompt on all vtys, but after typing a username, the
> password prompt would never appear. Keyboard was responsive and I could
> even switch between keyboard layouts (English/Greek). Plugging and and
> unplugging an external USB drive, showed the kernel messages on tty0.
> Still, I could not get it to display a password prompt and had to hard
> reboot it.
>
> I can't find anything in /var/log/messages either - it stops at 5.25 in
> the morning.  And the dump was not performed either (and there are no
> traces about it in the log).
>
> What kind of crash could cause the password prompt to not display? Ideas?

Can you actually log in?
Login prompt and password propmt are configurable via gettytab and
login.conf.(db)

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Re: strange ee behaviour

2009-07-01 Thread Paul B. Mahol
On 7/1/09, Alexander Best  wrote:
> oh sorry. i thought this was ee related because there've been some recent
> changes in the ee src. if it's awesome's fault i'll try to replace the
> installed version from ports with a svn snapshot. maybe the problem's been
> fixed already.

This is really ee bug and not awesome fault.
It can be reproduced with any window manager that can resize windows.

> cheers.
>
> Paul B. Mahol schrieb am 2009-07-01:
>> On 7/1/09, Alexander Best  wrote:
>> > i'm running xorg-7.4.2 and x11-wm/awesome on HEAD (r195173). when i
>> > run ee
>> > in
>> > the debugger and open another xterm the debugger says "Program
>> > exited
>> > normally.". so it's not a program crash i guess.
>
>> > Paul B. Mahol schrieb am 2009-07-01:
>> >> On 6/30/09, Alexander Best 
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > hi there,
>
>> >> > i'm experiencing this strange `ee` behaviour lately. when i open
>> >> > `ee` in an
>> >> > xterm and open another xterm `ee` simply exits. if i try to
>> >> > enter
>> >> > commands
>> >> > which output to sdtout/stderr like `ls` on the xterm window ee
>> >> > was
>> >> > running
>> >> > on
>> >> > the output is a mess.
>
>> >> > i'm running r195173 (HEAD).
>
>> >> Can't reproduce. Which X environment do you use?
>
>> Actually I can, if I resize xterm window, ee will exit.
>> You really should mentioned that you use awesome at first place.
>
>


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Re: strange ee behaviour

2009-07-01 Thread Paul B. Mahol
On 7/1/09, Paul B. Mahol  wrote:
> On 7/1/09, Alexander Best  wrote:
>> i'm running xorg-7.4.2 and x11-wm/awesome on HEAD (r195173). when i run
>> ee
>> in
>> the debugger and open another xterm the debugger says "Program exited
>> normally.". so it's not a program crash i guess.
>>
>> Paul B. Mahol schrieb am 2009-07-01:
>>> On 6/30/09, Alexander Best  wrote:
>>> > hi there,
>>
>>> > i'm experiencing this strange `ee` behaviour lately. when i open
>>> > `ee` in an
>>> > xterm and open another xterm `ee` simply exits. if i try to enter
>>> > commands
>>> > which output to sdtout/stderr like `ls` on the xterm window ee was
>>> > running
>>> > on
>>> > the output is a mess.
>>
>>> > i'm running r195173 (HEAD).
>>
>>> Can't reproduce. Which X environment do you use?
>
> Actually I can, if I resize xterm window, ee will exit.
> You really should mentioned that you use awesome at first place.

Problems is that ee doesnt handle SIGWINCH properly.
ee on FreeBSD is linked with ncurses but new_curse.c from contrib/ee is
only file that mentions SIGWINCH and that file is not part of
usr.bin/ee/Makefile

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Re: strange ee behaviour

2009-07-01 Thread Alexander Best
oh sorry. i thought this was ee related because there've been some recent
changes in the ee src. if it's awesome's fault i'll try to replace the
installed version from ports with a svn snapshot. maybe the problem's been
fixed already.

cheers.

Paul B. Mahol schrieb am 2009-07-01:
> On 7/1/09, Alexander Best  wrote:
> > i'm running xorg-7.4.2 and x11-wm/awesome on HEAD (r195173). when i
> > run ee
> > in
> > the debugger and open another xterm the debugger says "Program
> > exited
> > normally.". so it's not a program crash i guess.

> > Paul B. Mahol schrieb am 2009-07-01:
> >> On 6/30/09, Alexander Best 
> >> wrote:
> >> > hi there,

> >> > i'm experiencing this strange `ee` behaviour lately. when i open
> >> > `ee` in an
> >> > xterm and open another xterm `ee` simply exits. if i try to
> >> > enter
> >> > commands
> >> > which output to sdtout/stderr like `ls` on the xterm window ee
> >> > was
> >> > running
> >> > on
> >> > the output is a mess.

> >> > i'm running r195173 (HEAD).

> >> Can't reproduce. Which X environment do you use?

> Actually I can, if I resize xterm window, ee will exit.
> You really should mentioned that you use awesome at first place.

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RE: s...@home

2009-07-01 Thread Graeme Dargie


-Original Message-
From: Paul B. Mahol [mailto:one...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 30 June 2009 23:49
To: Stefan Miklosovic
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: s...@home

On 6/30/09, Stefan Miklosovic  wrote:
> hi all,
>
> I would like to install s...@home client to my machine,
> There are tutorials on internet how to install it, but it is all
> about package called simply "setiathome". I dont see
> such package in a port tree. I was searching for similar
> one, it seems I found it :
>
> /usr/ports/astro/boinc-setiathome-enhanced
>
> If i go to install it, it is about instaling ~30 ports as well,
> most of them is xorg related.
>
> I do not want to install these X related packages at all.
> It seems futile to having written "WITHOUT_X11=yes" in
> /etc/make.conf.
>
> Could I have s...@home client without X packages?

I think you only need to install boinc-client and download right
file(s) from seti webpage.

-- 
Paul


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/usr/ports/astro/boinc-setiathome-enhanced is the correct package to
install, I have been running this for some months now and initially I
thought the same as yourself about the X stuff ... but you actually need
it even if you are running from a shell environment.

Regards

Graeme

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Re: strange ee behaviour

2009-07-01 Thread Paul B. Mahol
On 7/1/09, Alexander Best  wrote:
> i'm running xorg-7.4.2 and x11-wm/awesome on HEAD (r195173). when i run ee
> in
> the debugger and open another xterm the debugger says "Program exited
> normally.". so it's not a program crash i guess.
>
> Paul B. Mahol schrieb am 2009-07-01:
>> On 6/30/09, Alexander Best  wrote:
>> > hi there,
>
>> > i'm experiencing this strange `ee` behaviour lately. when i open
>> > `ee` in an
>> > xterm and open another xterm `ee` simply exits. if i try to enter
>> > commands
>> > which output to sdtout/stderr like `ls` on the xterm window ee was
>> > running
>> > on
>> > the output is a mess.
>
>> > i'm running r195173 (HEAD).
>
>> Can't reproduce. Which X environment do you use?

Actually I can, if I resize xterm window, ee will exit.
You really should mentioned that you use awesome at first place.

-- 
Paul
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Re: Portaudit strange behavior.

2009-07-01 Thread dan
On Wednesday 01 July 2009 08:02:47 Arek Czereszewski wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On all my servers I have portaudit version 0.5.13
> If I try update audit database (by hand or from periodic script)
> I have:
>
> # portaudit -Fd
> auditfile.tbz 100% of   53 kB   39 kBps
> portaudit: Database too old.
> Old database restored.
> portaudit: Download failed.
> #
>
> When I change
>
> ${portaudit_sites="http://portaudit.FreeBSD.org/"}
> to
> ${portaudit_sites="http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/"}
> Like was in 0.5.12
> # portaudit -Fd
> auditfile.tbz 100% of   56 kB   34 kBps
> New database installed.
> Database created: Wed Jul  1 07:40:02 CEST 2009
> Update work fine.
>
> Anyone have behavior like I have?
>
> regards
> Arek
Oups ! I experienced the same behaviour this morning, but after that I did not 
make any change. Waiting for news,

d

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Failing to show 'Password:' prompt

2009-07-01 Thread Manolis Kiagias
This morning my server was unresponsive both from ssh and through http. 
The only thing that is different on this system on a 1st of month, is a 
dump job that runs through periodic (on a mostly inactive system).


Visiting the console, I discovered the system was still up and 
displaying login prompt on all vtys, but after typing a username, the 
password prompt would never appear. Keyboard was responsive and I could 
even switch between keyboard layouts (English/Greek). Plugging and and 
unplugging an external USB drive, showed the kernel messages on tty0. 
Still, I could not get it to display a password prompt and had to hard 
reboot it.


I can't find anything in /var/log/messages either - it stops at 5.25 in 
the morning.  And the dump was not performed either (and there are no 
traces about it in the log).


What kind of crash could cause the password prompt to not display? Ideas?


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