Re: Wireless NICs on 7.2
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Paul B. Maholone...@gmail.com wrote: $ ifconfig ral0 list scan SSID BSSID CHAN RATE S:N INT CAPS livingroom 00:13:10:b9:e7:d6 6 54M -93:-95 100 E 93 is too low. Paul, I really appreciate your help. I'm obviously not an expert on either wireless networks or radio communication in general. But I doubt the accuracy of the scan. First of all, there's an XP box less than a foot away getting a very good signal (according to both the MS and the Belkin utilities), and successfully communicating with the wireless network. When I move the FBSD box and put the XP box in it's place, the XP box continues to report a good signal and continues to communicate with the network. While the XP box is reporting variations in rate and signal, the FBSD box reports no change. Secondly, when I run ifconfig ral0 up scan, the scan hangs. It never completes or reports results. According to the man page, it's supposed to complete the scan, report the results, and exit. I have to Ctrl-C and run ifconfig ral0 list scan to get the results. So I know that at least part of the scan function doesn't work and I know that it's not detecting changes in rate and signal that are being reported by the XP box. 1) The XP box works fine with the Linksys NIC in it. 2) Both the XP and FBSD boxes are Dell Optiplex GX270, so they have identical hardware aside from the wireless NICs. 3) The md5 checksum for the install CD is correct, so I should have a good installation of 7.2 4) I seem to be getting a good signal, good enough to communicate with the network. 5) Both the Belkin and the Linksys work fine in the XP box. 6) The FBSD box always reports the same data, regardless of changes in conditions. 7) If I move the boxes and test them in the same physical location, oriented in the same direction, the XP box works and the FBSD box doesn't. So my guess is that output from a scan is the result of a problem in the driver, and not the result of actual conditions. If I thought I could solve this with a high gain antenna, I'd buy one in a second. But at the moment I have pretty good reason to believe that the problem isn't signal strength. I'd still like to compile a working ndis driver for either the Belkin F5D7000 v.7032 or the Linksys WMP54G v.4.1, if that is possible, or get the ral driver to work with the Linksys. I'd be willing to move from 7.2 to 6.4 if anyone has had success with that. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Wireless NICs on 7.2
On 7/3/09, Robert Hall rjh...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Paul B. Maholone...@gmail.com wrote: $ ifconfig ral0 list scan SSIDBSSID CHAN RATE S:N INT CAPS livingroom 00:13:10:b9:e7:d66 54M -93:-95 100 E 93 is too low. Paul, I really appreciate your help. I'm obviously not an expert on either wireless networks or radio communication in general. But I doubt the accuracy of the scan. First of all, there's an XP box less than a foot away getting a very good signal (according to both the MS and the Belkin utilities), and successfully communicating with the wireless network. When I move the FBSD box and put the XP box in it's place, the XP box continues to report a good signal and continues to communicate with the network. While the XP box is reporting variations in rate and signal, the FBSD box reports no change. Secondly, when I run ifconfig ral0 up scan, the scan hangs. It never completes or reports results. According to the man page, it's supposed to complete the scan, report the results, and exit. I have to Ctrl-C and run ifconfig ral0 list scan to get the results. So I know that at least part of the scan function doesn't work and I know that it's not detecting changes in rate and signal that are being reported by the XP box. That have sense only if station is associated. Reported driver signal is to low to be usefull. 1) The XP box works fine with the Linksys NIC in it. 2) Both the XP and FBSD boxes are Dell Optiplex GX270, so they have identical hardware aside from the wireless NICs. 3) The md5 checksum for the install CD is correct, so I should have a good installation of 7.2 4) I seem to be getting a good signal, good enough to communicate with the network. 5) Both the Belkin and the Linksys work fine in the XP box. 6) The FBSD box always reports the same data, regardless of changes in conditions. 7) If I move the boxes and test them in the same physical location, oriented in the same direction, the XP box works and the FBSD box doesn't. So my guess is that output from a scan is the result of a problem in the driver, and not the result of actual conditions. If I thought I could solve this with a high gain antenna, I'd buy one in a second. But at the moment I have pretty good reason to believe that the problem isn't signal strength. I'd still like to compile a working ndis driver for either the Belkin F5D7000 v.7032 or the Linksys WMP54G v.4.1, if that is possible, or get the ral driver to work with the Linksys. I'd be willing to move from 7.2 to 6.4 if anyone has had success with that. I'm aware of similar problems with rum(4) driver - signal is too low comparing to linux rt73 and ndisulator. I don't have ral(4) card so I can not comment on that. Alternative approach would be to explore AP settings. -- Paul ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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Problem with audio apps and mixer
hi there, i've never had a problem to adjust the volume with audio apps like mplayer or mpd. recently however i'm experiencing this strange behaviour. the app's volume doesn't match the volume that `mixer` reports. here's an example: `mpc`: J.R.R. Tolkien - [playing] #2/19 1:54/3:06 (61%) volume: 45% repeat: off random: off `mixer`: Mixer vol is currently set to 40:40 Mixer pcm is currently set to 70:70 Mixer speaker is currently set to 75:75 Mixer line is currently set to 75:75 Mixer mic is currently set to 0:0 Mixer mix is currently set to 0:0 Mixer rec is currently set to 0:0 Recording source: mic if i adjust the volume in mplayer or mpd the volume DOES get increased, but the mixer settings don't change. after a song change or pausing a video however the volume settings get reset to the previous settings. here's an example: [arun...@arundel - 02:51 pm] mpc J.R.R. Tolkien - [playing] #5/19 3:01/6:23 (47%) volume: 45% repeat: off random: off [arun...@arundel - 02:51 pm] mpc volume 60 J.R.R. Tolkien - [playing] #5/19 3:05/6:23 (48%) volume: 60% repeat: off random: off [arun...@arundel - 02:51 pm] mixer Mixer vol is currently set to 40:40 Mixer pcm is currently set to 70:70 Mixer speaker is currently set to 75:75 Mixer line is currently set to 75:75 Mixer mic is currently set to 0:0 Mixer mix is currently set to 0:0 Mixer rec is currently set to 0:0 Recording source: mic [arun...@arundel - 02:51 pm] mpc pause J.R.R. Tolkien - [paused] #5/19 3:10/6:23 (50%) volume: 70% repeat: off random: off [arun...@arundel - 02:51 pm] mpc play J.R.R. Tolkien - [playing] #5/19 3:11/6:23 (50%) volume: 45% repeat: off random: off it seems the apps don't actually access /dev/mixer, but instead use an internal volume setting. i had a look at /dev and this is the output of `ls|grep mixer`: mixer0 mixer1 mixer2 i thought maybe i need to create a symlink from mixer0 to mixer, but that doesn't work: ln: mixer: File exists i haven't changed mplayer's of mpd's settings in years, so this seems to be a freebsd problem. i'm running r195247 (HEAD). this is the output of `cat /dev/sndstat`: FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm: 32bit 2009061500/i386) Installed devices: pcm0: HDA Realtek ALC885 PCM #0 Analog at cad 2 nid 1 on hdac0 [MPSAFE] (1p:4v/1r:4v channels duplex default) pcm1: HDA Realtek ALC885 PCM #1 Analog at cad 2 nid 1 on hdac0 [MPSAFE] (1p:1v/1r:1v channels duplex) pcm2: HDA Realtek ALC885 PCM #2 Digital at cad 2 nid 1 on hdac0 [MPSAFE] (1p:1v/1r:1v channels duplex) cheers. alex ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: POLL: Linux preferences from FreeBSD users
On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 08:28:01 -0600, Modulok modu...@gmail.com wrote: That and Linux seems to only ever get the abridged version of manual pages. When you compare manual pages for an equivalent commands between FreeBSD and most Linux flavors, it really shows. I noticed this when I went from Debian to FreeBSD. Finally! Real documentation! There ware two things that I found to be solved better in FreeBSD than in various Linusi: 1. Amount of manual pages: FreeBSD does not only document commands, it documents configuration files, kerlen interfaces, library functions and maintenance procedures. The tradition of manual pages furthermore is carried by third party software (ports), e. g. man opera - you would not guess that it existed. In the opposite, try to find a manpage of some KDE program (as if anyone would read manpages for KDE things). 2. Quality of documentation: The manpages are excellently written. No look at our Wiki or this page intentionally left free there. furthermore, the OS's source is very tidy, uses good names for functions, variables and datatypes, and has lots of useful comments. As a developer, documentation is a MUST HAVE for me. Having all the documentation avaliable off line right after installation is very good. Sadly, Linux didn't (doesn't?) offer this. In functionality - driver availability, to call it by name - Linux may be much better than FreeBSD. It may even support crap devices as it is done by proprietary Windows drivers. But because I (1) do not own such hardware and (2) usually don't use modern computers, I do not depend on them. That's the great thing when you live in the stone age - you don't have to care for any modern stuff. :-) FreeBSD, in opposite to most Linusi, enables me to run my old hardware FASTER (!) with each release. Sadly, this gain of speed is eaten up by other things I use right away, such as X and its applications. I can't imagine that Linux would make a better shape here. I sometimes try some Live system CD from a Linux distribution to see it this is still the case. Is this the case? Yes, it is the case. Reboot, return to FreeBSD. :-) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: POLL: Linux preferences from FreeBSD users
On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 18:14:12 +0300, Giorgos Keramidas keram...@ceid.upatras.gr wrote: On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 09:07:08 +0200, Jonathan McKeown j.mcke...@ru.ac.za wrote: I was wondering if there were any other Slackers out there! Of course we are still `out there'. I started using a UNIX-like clone on my 386 SX with Slackware, by fetching the floppy disk images. I've abandoned Linux for serious work for years now, but I still have my Infomagic CD-ROMs :) hehe, me too. :-) In my case, it's a POWER!-CD LINUX (from Sybex) of Slackware with kernel 2.0.32, X 3.1.1 - purchased with a magazine for 29,95 DM many years ago. The system it ran on was a 486 DX2 / 66. And the system was quite usable, especially support for PS printer and LaTeX were most helpful. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: gmirror per partition
On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 03:48:41PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: # gmirror label -vb round-robin root /dev/da0p2 gmirror: Can't store metadata on /dev/da0p2: Operation not permitted. isn't that partition accessed by other process or mounted? should it not be mounted? yes it should not, no matter what architecture. ok, thank you So how can I gmirror root partition? I can't unmount it, I think. Perhaps I need to use a single-user mode? Following is a gpart/gmirror report - some success and problems. I did a fresh FBSD current install on ia64 on directly attached scsi, da0. # gpart show = 34 35566411 da0 GPT (17G) 348192001 efi (400M) 819234 10485762 freebsd-ufs (512M) 1867810 41943043 freebsd-swap (2.0G) 6062114 20971524 freebsd-ufs (1.0G) 8159266 20971525 freebsd-ufs (1.0G) 10256418 253100276 freebsd-ufs (12G) # What I want is to mirror the whole of the boot disk to da1, which is identical to da0, but following Marcel's advice, will apply gmirror per partition. So starting with efi partition: First I create GPT scheme on da1 # gpart create -s gpt da1 da1 created # gpart show da1 = 34 35566411 da1 GPT (17G) 34 35566411 - free - (17G) # then I create EFI partition of the same size as on the boot disk, da0. # gpart add -b 34 -s 819200 -t efi da1 da1p1 added # gpart show da1 = 34 35566411 da1 GPT (17G) 348192001 efi (400M) 819234 34747211 - free - (17G) # then I umount /efi so that I can create gmirror label on da0p1. # umount /efi # gmirror label -vb round-robin efi /dev/da0p1 Metadata value stored on /dev/da0p1. Done. # Checking gmirror # gmirror status NameStatus Components mirror/efi COMPLETE da0p1 # and another check # gmirror list Geom name: efi State: COMPLETE Components: 1 Balance: round-robin Slice: 4096 Flags: NONE GenID: 0 SyncID: 1 ID: 3904698645 Providers: 1. Name: mirror/efi Mediasize: 419429888 (400M) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r0w0e0 Consumers: 1. Name: da0p1 Mediasize: 419430400 (400M) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r1w1e1 State: ACTIVE Priority: 0 Flags: NONE GenID: 0 SyncID: 1 ID: 1288665799 # now insert a spare partition, da1p1, into the mirror # gmirror insert efi /dev/da1p1 status looks fine # gmirror status NameStatus Components mirror/efi DEGRADED da0p1 da1p1 (44%) # gmirror status NameStatus Components mirror/efi DEGRADED da0p1 da1p1 (87%) # gmirror status NameStatus Components mirror/efi COMPLETE da0p1 da1p1 # and another check # gmirror list Geom name: efi State: COMPLETE Components: 2 Balance: round-robin Slice: 4096 Flags: NONE GenID: 0 SyncID: 1 ID: 3904698645 Providers: 1. Name: mirror/efi Mediasize: 419429888 (400M) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r0w0e0 Consumers: 1. Name: da0p1 Mediasize: 419430400 (400M) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r1w1e1 State: ACTIVE Priority: 0 Flags: NONE GenID: 0 SyncID: 1 ID: 1288665799 2. Name: da1p1 Mediasize: 419430400 (400M) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r1w1e1 State: ACTIVE Priority: 0 Flags: NONE GenID: 0 SyncID: 1 ID: 1724596009 # So far, so good. Now, I don't need to create the filesystem on the mirror, because EFI was copied from da0p1 to da1p1. So, I try to mount /dev/mirror/efi # mount -t msdosfs /dev/mirror/efi /mnt # df Filesystem 1K-blocks UsedAvail Capacity Mounted on /dev/da0p2 507630 35904 431116 8%/ devfs 1 10 100%/dev /dev/da0p51012974 12 931926 0%/tmp /dev/da0p6 12252370 252608 11019574 2%/usr /dev/da0p41012974242 931696 0%/var /dev/mirror/efi409504 163264 24624040%/mnt # again seems ok so I proceed to modify /etc/fstab and change da0p1 into mirror/efi # cat /etc/fstab # DeviceMountpoint FStype Options DumpPass# /dev/da0p3 noneswapsw 0 0 /dev/da0p2 / ufs rw 1 1 /dev/mirror/efi /efimsdosfs rw 0 0 ^^^ /dev/da0p5 /tmpufs rw 2 2 /dev/da0p6 /usrufs rw 2 2 /dev/da0p4 /varufs rw 2 2 /dev/acd0 /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 # now I can try to just mount /efi # umount /mnt # mount /efi # df Filesystem 1K-blocks UsedAvail Capacity Mounted on /dev/da0p2 507630 35904 431116 8%/ devfs 1 10 100%/dev /dev/da0p51012974 12 931926 0%/tmp /dev/da0p6 12252370 252608 11019574 2%/usr /dev/da0p41012974242 931696 0%/var /dev/mirror/efi
Re: gmirror per partition
On Jul 3, 2009, at 12:12 PM, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: now to mirror root partition. My problem is that root is mounted and cannot (?) be unmounted, unlike /efi, on the live system. # gpart add -b 819234 -s 1048576 -t freebsd-ufs da1 da1p2 added # # gmirror label -vb round-robin root /dev/da0p2 gmirror: Can't store metadata on /dev/da0p2: Operation not permitted. # If I create gmirror on da1, the spare disk: # gmirror label -vb round-robin root /dev/da1p2 Metadata value stored on /dev/da0p1. Done. # so that # gmirror status NameStatus Components mirror/efi COMPLETE da0p1 da1p1 mirror/root COMPLETE da1p2 # then I still cannot insert da0p2 # gmirror insert root da0p2 gmirror: Cannot access provider da0p2. # So how can I gmirror root partion on a live system? You're almost there... I did this a while ago, can't remember when, but I just upgraded the system that had this from FreeBSD 6.3 of sometime in 2006 to 7.2. What I believe I did from this point on was: Copy everything from the root partition to mirror/root. Modify /etc/fstab to mount root on mirror/root. Reboot. Now the original root partition isn't mounted anymore, so we can do operate on it's geom stuff. gmirror insert root da0p2 That should be it. If that doesn't work you can always boot off a live file-system CD/DVD and perform these actions from there. You won't have man pages in that case though, or at least I couldn't find a way to read them off the DVD last I tried. One thing I'd like to warn about at this point: If you ever upgrade to a kernel with a newer geom metadata version and that new kernel crashes, you're left with a system where the new kernel can't boot at all while the old kernel can't mount the root mirror as it's now of a version it can't handle. You can however mount a single geom provider of that root file system (/dev/da1p2 for example) to try to fix things. That file-system WILL be dirty, but DON'T run fsck on it or you will destroy it's contents. That's what happened to my upgrade above... Thankfully it was only my root partition with hardly any data on it and I did make level 0 dumps before the upgrade, but I needed to restore that FS from a fixit shell without man pages. Augh! many thanks -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 ___ freebsd-curr...@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Alban Hertroys -- If you can't see the forest for the trees, cut the trees and you'll see there is no forest. !DSPAM:760,4a4de90f759155226611503! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Problem with audio apps and mixer
On 7/3/09, Alexander Best alexbes...@math.uni-muenster.de wrote: hi there, i've never had a problem to adjust the volume with audio apps like mplayer or mpd. recently however i'm experiencing this strange behaviour. the app's volume doesn't match the volume that `mixer` reports. here's an example: CURRENT have VPC. You can completly disable such feature with this sysctl: hint.pcm.X.vpc (default=undefined, enabled) 0=disable, 1=enable Notes: The only place to enable/disable vpc. Enabling/Disabling requires driver reload. here is explanation with more details: http://people.freebsd.org/~ariff/SOUND_4.TXT.html -- Paul ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Problem with audio apps and mixer
wow. thanks a bunch. this new feature of having each app use it's own volume setting is pretty cool. however i think i'd like to preserve the volume setting for each application and rather not have it reset. because i think this feature takes the pid of the app and preserves the volume for the pid. mplayer and mpd however seem to fork a new instance after a song change or pausing etc. so so the volume get's reset while the app is still running. i might be wrong, but i think there's a typo in this description of the feature i'm looking for: hw.snd.vpc_autoreset (default=1, enabled) 0=disable, 1=enable Notes: By default, channel volume will be reset to 0db relative after the channel is closed which means that any changes will be lost and not preserved. Setting this to '1' will preserve the volume at the cost of possible confusion for other applications trying to re-open the same device (see hw.snd.vpc_reset for possible 'panic' switch to fix the volumes). shouldn't it be: hw.snd.vpc_autoreset (default=1, enabled) 0=disable, 1=enable Notes: By default, channel volume will be reset to 0db relative after the channel is closed which means that any changes will be lost and not preserved. Setting this to '0' will preserve the volume at the cost of possible confusion for other applications trying to re-open the same device (see hw.snd.vpc_reset for possible 'panic' switch to fix the volumes). so after settings hw.snd.vpc_autoreset=0 each application uses it's own volume setting AND preserves it. just what i wanted. even better because i didn't know this cool new feature existed. :) thanks again for the hint. cheers. alex Paul B. Mahol schrieb am 2009-07-03: On 7/3/09, Alexander Best alexbes...@math.uni-muenster.de wrote: hi there, i've never had a problem to adjust the volume with audio apps like mplayer or mpd. recently however i'm experiencing this strange behaviour. the app's volume doesn't match the volume that `mixer` reports. here's an example: CURRENT have VPC. You can completly disable such feature with this sysctl: hint.pcm.X.vpc (default=undefined, enabled) 0=disable, 1=enable Notes: The only place to enable/disable vpc. Enabling/Disabling requires driver reload. here is explanation with more details: http://people.freebsd.org/~ariff/SOUND_4.TXT.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: portupgrade says nothing to do but portversion disagrees
On 03/07/09 Michael P. Soulier said: For weeks now my usual portupgrade test has returned the same thing. Actually, I'm not sure cvsup is updating my ports tree properly... Connected to cvsup1.ca.FreeBSD.org Updating collection ports-all/cvs Finished successfully Normally there's a lot more output than that. Mike pgpI7VGFbyYSY.pgp Description: PGP signature
portupgrade says nothing to do but portversion disagrees
For weeks now my usual portupgrade test has returned the same thing. msoul...@kanga:~$ sudo portupgrade -na Password: --- Session started at: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 10:01:30 -0400 ** Stale lock file was found. Removed. ** Stale lock file was found. Removed. ** Package 'p5-Text-ParseWords' has been removed from ports tree. --- ** Upgrade tasks 1: 0 done, 1 ignored, 0 skipped and 0 failed --- Listing the results (+:done / -:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed) - (p5-Text-ParseWords-3.1) --- Packages processed: 0 done, 1 ignored, 0 skipped and 0 failed --- Session ended at: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 10:04:00 -0400 (consumed 00:02:29) But portversion says msoul...@kanga:~$ sudo /usr/local/sbin/portversion -v -l '' ** Stale lock file was found. Removed. ** Stale lock file was found. Removed. apache-2.0.63_2 needs updating (port has 2.0.63_3) apr-nothr-gdbm-db42-1.3.3.1.3.4_1needs updating (port has 1.3.5.1.3.7_3) cacti-0.8.7d needs updating (port has 0.8.7e) cairo-1.8.6_1,1 needs updating (port has 1.8.8,1) curl-7.19.5 needs updating (port has 7.19.5_1) dirmngr-1.0.2_1 needs updating (port has 1.0.3) gamin-0.1.10_2needs updating (port has 0.1.10_3) git-1.6.3.1 needs updating (port has 1.6.3.3) gnupg-2.0.11 needs updating (port has 2.0.12) isc-dhcp30-server-3.0.7_4 needs updating (port has 3.0.7_5) lcms-1.18,1 needs updating (port has 1.18a,1) libX11-1.2.1,1needs updating (port has 1.2.1_1,1) libiconv-1.11_1 needs updating (port has 1.13) libksba-1.0.5 needs updating (port has 1.0.6) libxcb-1.2_1 needs updating (port has 1.3) mime-support-3.44.1 needs updating (port has 3.46.1) netpbm-10.26.62 needs updating (port has 10.26.63) nspr-4.7 needs updating (port has 4.8) p5-Archive-Tar-1.48 needs updating (port has 1.52) p5-Array-Compare-1.17 needs updating (port has 1.18) p5-Class-Accessor-0.31needs updating (port has 0.33) p5-Class-Inspector-1.23 needs updating (port has 1.24) p5-Compress-Raw-Zlib-2.019needs updating (port has 2.020) p5-Config-IniFiles-2.49 needs updating (port has 2.51) p5-Digest-1.15_1 needs updating (port has 1.16) p5-Digest-MD5-2.38needs updating (port has 2.39) p5-File-Temp-0.21 needs updating (port has 0.22) p5-HTML-Parser-3.60 needs updating (port has 3.61) p5-MIME-Base64-3.07 needs updating (port has 3.08) p5-Mail-SpamAssassin-3.2.5_3needs updating (port has 3.2.5_4) p5-NetAddr-IP-4.02.6 needs updating (port has 4.02.7) p5-Number-Format-1.60 needs updating (port has 1.72a) p5-Scalar-List-Utils-1.20,1needs updating (port has 1.21,1) p5-Storable-2.18 needs updating (port has 2.20) p5-Task-Weaken-1.02 needs updating (port has 1.03) p5-Test-Simple-0.86 needs updating (port has 0.88) p5-Text-ParseWords-3.1needs updating (port has 3.27) p5-libwww-5.826 needs updating (port has 5.828) pango-1.24.2 needs updating (port has 1.24.3) perl-5.8.9_2 needs updating (port has 5.8.9_3) popt-1.7_5needs updating (port has 1.14) portaudit-0.5.12 needs updating (port has 0.5.13) postfix-2.6.1_1,1 needs updating (port has 2.6.2_1,1) ruby-1.8.7.160,1 needs updating (port has 1.8.7.160_3,1) ruby18-gems-1.3.1 needs updating (port has 1.3.4) sqlite3-3.6.13needs updating (port has 3.6.14.2) tcl-8.4.19_2,1needs updating (port has 8.4.19_3,1) vim-7.2.171 needs updating (port has 7.2.209) weechat-0.2.6.2 needs updating (port has 0.2.6.3) xcb-proto-1.4 needs updating (port has 1.5) What gives? Thanks, Mike -- Michael P. Soulier msoul...@digitaltorque.ca Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction. --Albert Einstein pgpQBFBbyWopI.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: POLL: Linux preferences from FreeBSD users
My preferences for Linux: I have used FreeBSD fairly regularly since 2.x and various flavors of Linux since around that time as well. As I was writing the first pass at this, I realized that many or most of the problems I have with Linuxes are endemic to Linux (whatever that is) and not to particular distributions. My main problems with most of the them are that they are just so inconsistent. Directory structures, documentation, even just where they install packages to by default - the standardization inside FreeBSD and that which is supplied by the ports system just makes for so much more of a sane and predictable experience. Secondarily, apart from *some* of the source ones and the debian-based ones, I always end up with broken dependencies or some weird circular inconsistencies. I'm sure I could fix them if I were a rpm guru, but I am not. FreeBSD just [generally] makes it so much easier and makes me not want to become an rpm guru. Servers: As you have probably guessed by this point, the only Linux that I feel suits my needs well enough to have used it long term (on my own, that is, not when I've been required to use it) is Debian and some of its progeny (including, in fact, Progeny itself! :). I usually end up with Ubuntu server. And it's OK. Desktops: Now, on desktops I flit around like a jack rabbit on crack. My desktop needs are completely different from my server needs. I'm usually XP (for games at home, work at work), so it's always the second and third OS on my boxes, so I try 'em all. PCLinux is actually been very good to me recently (Surprise! It's rpm based, too! How weird is that!). Kbuntu and some variants are decent enough. None of these last long enough to need more than a few patches, so I don't have the problem of dependency issues. Rich Mahlerwein Mobile: 715-891-7420 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: portupgrade says nothing to do but portversion disagrees
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Michael P. Souliermsoul...@digitaltorque.ca wrote: Actually, I'm not sure cvsup is updating my ports tree properly... Connected to cvsup1.ca.FreeBSD.org Updating collection ports-all/cvs Finished successfully I just changed to cvsup1.freebsd.org and the difference is huge. How do I find out who owns the Canadian mirror? Thanks, Mike -- Michael P. Soulier msoul...@digitaltorque.ca Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction. --Albert Einstein ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Problem with audio apps and mixer
On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 16:12:07 +0200 (CEST) Alexander Best alexbes...@math.uni-muenster.de wrote: [...] shouldn't it be: hw.snd.vpc_autoreset (default=1, enabled) 0=disable, 1=enable Notes: By default, channel volume will be reset to 0db relative after the channel is closed which means that any changes will be lost and not preserved. Setting this to '0' will preserve the volume at ^^^ the cost of possible confusion for other applications trying to re-open the same device (see hw.snd.vpc_reset for possible 'panic' switch to fix the volumes). Good catch, thanks :) Fixed. -- Ariff Abdullah FreeBSD ... Recording in stereo is obviously too advanced and confusing for us idiot * users :P ... Going with the standard and orthodox is the death of intellect .. pgpZitdZ4ULqH.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: POLL: Linux preferences from FreeBSD users
Daniel Underwood wrote: QUESTION: Of the various modern Linux distributions, which do you prefer? and why? I'm very interested to see the spread of opinion about Linux distributions from FreeBSD fans. I've been using FreeBSD since 2.2.1 and I implement and support FreeBSD whenever I can. That said, many companies already have a *nix infrastructure and one must use what one is given. I find Red Hat is the most common linux distribution out there. CentOS is often used by these same companies for dev and test environments. Occasionally end-users will ask me to recommend a version of linux to play with and I point them to Ubuntu. -- Regards, Doug ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Problem with audio apps and mixer
On 7/3/09, Alexander Best alexbes...@math.uni-muenster.de wrote: wow. thanks a bunch. this new feature of having each app use it's own volume setting is pretty cool. however i think i'd like to preserve the volume setting for each application and rather not have it reset. because i think this feature takes the pid of the app and preserves the volume for the pid. Negative. Same application can open and close (different) channel(s) multiple times causing volume to be changed. You can get some patches on freebsd forums for mplayer and others ... mplayer and mpd however seem to fork a new instance after a song change or pausing etc. so so the volume get's reset while the app is still running. Nope, there is no *forking*. i might be wrong, but i think there's a typo in this description of the feature i'm looking for: hw.snd.vpc_autoreset (default=1, enabled) 0=disable, 1=enable Notes: By default, channel volume will be reset to 0db relative after the channel is closed which means that any changes will be lost and not preserved. Setting this to '1' will preserve the volume at the cost of possible confusion for other applications trying to re-open the same device (see hw.snd.vpc_reset for possible 'panic' switch to fix the volumes). shouldn't it be: hw.snd.vpc_autoreset (default=1, enabled) 0=disable, 1=enable Notes: By default, channel volume will be reset to 0db relative after the channel is closed which means that any changes will be lost and not preserved. Setting this to '0' will preserve the volume at the cost of possible confusion for other applications trying to re-open the same device (see hw.snd.vpc_reset for possible 'panic' switch to fix the volumes). so after settings hw.snd.vpc_autoreset=0 each application uses it's own volume setting AND preserves it. just what i wanted. even better because i didn't know this cool new feature existed. :) Doesn't work as expected because if you use multiple applications at same time silenced channel may and may not become extremly noise at any time - this is OSS and not FreeBSD fault and it is implemented as is in many if not all multimedia applications; so you may look again in freebsd forums and use ariff@ patch for mplayer. I don't remmember there was patch for mpd, but you can always ask politely. thanks again for the hint. cheers. alex Paul B. Mahol schrieb am 2009-07-03: On 7/3/09, Alexander Best alexbes...@math.uni-muenster.de wrote: hi there, i've never had a problem to adjust the volume with audio apps like mplayer or mpd. recently however i'm experiencing this strange behaviour. the app's volume doesn't match the volume that `mixer` reports. here's an example: CURRENT have VPC. You can completly disable such feature with this sysctl: hint.pcm.X.vpc (default=undefined, enabled) 0=disable, 1=enable Notes: The only place to enable/disable vpc. Enabling/Disabling requires driver reload. here is explanation with more details: http://people.freebsd.org/~ariff/SOUND_4.TXT.html -- Paul ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Fix It CD, bsdlabel, and /dev?
Sorry for the poor subject. Thanks for reading. I'm using this page as a guide but am at the console so I'm just using the Fix It CD: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/remote-install/installation.html I'm attempting to install FBSD 7.2 64bit on a fresh machine. The machine has 3 500G drives and 1 750G drive. I'm trying to mirror root with gmirror. Following the examples, I've used fdisk to create one slice for each drive that uses the entire disk. Next I used bsdlabel and created 500M a: partitions on two of the drives (ad6 ad8). However /dev/ad6s1a and /dev/ad8s1a do not exist. I do have entries such as /dev/ad6a and/dev/ad8a but gmirror doesn't like those. What must I do the get them to show after I've labeled? Thanks, Drew -- Be a Great Magician! Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: scripting tip needed
good thing you found the answer. I am glad you did, and oh, I am more glad
that you found your solution on ksh itself and not on advanced scripting
language, like Perl or Python.''
Guys,
I eventually found it with lots of rtfm on variable substitution and such..
[...@dada~]$ z=0
[...@dada~]$ y=1
[...@dada~]$ x=aaa
[...@dada~]$ eval `echo MACHINE_DISK$z[$y]`=$x
[...@dada~]$ echo $(eval echo \${MACHINE_DISK$z[$y]})
aaa
[...@dada~]$
Thanks anyway!
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Re: POLL: Linux preferences from FreeBSD users
On Jul 3, 2009, at 6:01 AM, Polytropon wrote: On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 08:28:01 -0600, Modulok modu...@gmail.com wrote: That and Linux seems to only ever get the abridged version of manual pages. When you compare manual pages for an equivalent commands between FreeBSD and most Linux flavors, it really shows. I noticed this when I went from Debian to FreeBSD. Finally! Real documentation! There ware two things that I found to be solved better in FreeBSD than in various Linusi: 1. Amount of manual pages: FreeBSD does not only document commands, it documents configuration files, kerlen interfaces, library functions and maintenance procedures. The tradition of manual pages furthermore is carried by third party software (ports), e. g. man opera - you would not guess that it existed. In the opposite, try to find a manpage of some KDE program (as if anyone would read manpages for KDE things). 2. Quality of documentation: The manpages are excellently written. No look at our Wiki or this page intentionally left free there. furthermore, the OS's source is very tidy, uses good names for functions, variables and datatypes, and has lots of useful comments. As a developer, documentation is a MUST HAVE for me. Having all the documentation avaliable off line right after installation is very good. Sadly, Linux didn't (doesn't?) offer this. I agree, the linux documentation is very scarce. Having good man pages is very convenient, specially when you are in a data center with just a console on a cart. Having to go online to check some badly organised wiki is not always convenient or possible. I also have my share of frustration with the logs. The messages in the log files are often inconsistent and unhelpful. In this following example the kernel is reporting a disk error but forgot to specify the most important information, the disk. Jul 3 00:07:53 locdata204 kernel: [5706229.55] res 41/40:00:52:4a:73/83:02:27:00:00/00 Emask 0x9 (media error) -fred- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Hide Terminal window (using xfce4. and 7.2-RELEASE)?
Whenever I run the particular Linux MATLAB installation I have access to, it must be run from the command-line. Consequently, I have the MATLAB gui and an open terminal window (which only gets in the way). Is there a way to hide this terminal window completely? If I close it, MATLAB closes. I know I can move it to another Workspace, but I'm hoping there's another way. I don't mind that the Terminal window opens whenever I run MATLAB, I would just like to be able to hide it each time. NOTE: When I say hide, I mean simply make it not show up on the screen. I do not mean hide the process or anything of that nature. TIA, Daniel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: POLL: Linux preferences from FreeBSD users
Are most of these shortcomings primarily due to the fact that FreeBSD has a single structured line of development? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Fix It CD, bsdlabel, and /dev?
On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 12:05:13 -0700, Drew Tomlinson d...@mykitchentable.net wrote: Next I used bsdlabel and created 500M a: partitions on two of the drives (ad6 ad8). ^ There is no colon after the partition letter. The colon is used to refer (or change) to the 1st DOS diskette drive. :-) However /dev/ad6s1a and /dev/ad8s1a do not exist. I do have entries such as /dev/ad6a and/dev/ad8a but gmirror doesn't like those. What must I do the get them to show after I've labeled? If you have /dev/ad[68]a, it indicates that you haven't created a slice on those disks, instead you created one partition (a) on each of the disks. If you are a lazy guy (as I am), then use sysinstall to create the slices and the partition. Choose standard MBR after the slice editor and go ahead with the partition editor. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Hide Terminal window (using xfce4. and 7.2-RELEASE)?
On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 15:57:13 -0400, Daniel Underwood djuatde...@gmail.com wrote: Whenever I run the particular Linux MATLAB installation I have access to, it must be run from the command-line. Consequently, I have the MATLAB gui and an open terminal window (which only gets in the way). Is there a way to hide this terminal window completely? If I close it, MATLAB closes. Of course. I know I can move it to another Workspace, but I'm hoping there's another way. This is a function the window manager (i. e. XFCE 4) will have to do. Maybe you can do a trick to not have a terminal window. How about running the MATLAB program from a kind of Start: dialog. I know it existed in XFCE 3. Create an icon for it, and as the command line, enter the MATLAB starting command. Or does MATLAB explicitlely require to run from out of a terminal session? I don't mind that the Terminal window opens whenever I run MATLAB, I would just like to be able to hide it each time. Check for some kind of minimize after start option in XFCE 4. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: POLL: Linux preferences from FreeBSD users
On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 15:59:26 -0400, Daniel Underwood djuatde...@gmail.com wrote: Are most of these shortcomings primarily due to the fact that FreeBSD has a single structured line of development? In opposite to Linux, FreeBSD has the concept of a centrally maintained operating system (the OS) and additional applications (everything else) which means packages, ports, and 3rd party software. You can see this even through the directory hierarchy: Everything inside the /usr/local subtree is not needed for the OS (and can be removed with leaving you with a completely intact OS). The distributors of Linux choose what belongs to their distribution which does not have such a separation. Basal software, as well as additional stuff, is incorporated via some kind of packages, even the kernel can be handled that way. Of course, as you said, most Linux distribution has its own concept and line of development, separated from those of the other distributions. That creates incompatibilities and differences between the distributions. FreeBSD, on the other hand, manages to keep even binary compatibility between major OS changes. Those who develop and control the OS are programmers who put a lot emphasize on quality - and that's very important to me. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Fix It CD, bsdlabel, and /dev?
On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 10:04:06PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 12:05:13 -0700, Drew Tomlinson d...@mykitchentable.net wrote: Next I used bsdlabel and created 500M a: partitions on two of the drives (ad6 ad8). ^ There is no colon after the partition letter. The colon is used to refer (or change) to the 1st DOS diskette drive. :-) However /dev/ad6s1a and /dev/ad8s1a do not exist. I do have entries such as /dev/ad6a and/dev/ad8a but gmirror doesn't like those. What must I do the get them to show after I've labeled? If you have /dev/ad[68]a, it indicates that you haven't created a slice on those disks, instead you created one partition (a) on each of the disks. If you are a lazy guy (as I am), then use sysinstall to create the slices and the partition. Choose standard MBR after the slice editor and go ahead with the partition editor. why not give gpart(8) a go? -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Hide Terminal window (using xfce4. and 7.2-RELEASE)?
On 7/3/09, Daniel Underwood djuatde...@gmail.com wrote: Whenever I run the particular Linux MATLAB installation I have access to, it must be run from the command-line. Consequently, I have the MATLAB gui and an open terminal window (which only gets in the way). Is there a way to hide this terminal window completely? If I close it, MATLAB closes. I know I can move it to another Workspace, but I'm hoping there's another way. I don't mind that the Terminal window opens whenever I run MATLAB, I would just like to be able to hide it each time. NOTE: When I say hide, I mean simply make it not show up on the screen. I do not mean hide the process or anything of that nature. TIA, Daniel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Type this into terminal: Ctrl+Z bg Enter Ctrl+D -- Paul ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Fix It CD, bsdlabel, and /dev?
However /dev/ad6s1a and /dev/ad8s1a do not exist. I do have entries such as /dev/ad6a and/dev/ad8a but gmirror doesn't like those. What must I do the get them to show after I've labeled? If you have /dev/ad[68]a, it indicates that you haven't created a slice on those disks, instead you created one partition (a) on each of the disks. there is completely NO REASON to create slices at all, unless you want to use windoze on the same drive. i don't have slices on any of my FreeBSD systems ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Hide Terminal window (using xfce4. and 7.2-RELEASE)?
On Fri, 3 Jul 2009, Daniel Underwood wrote: Whenever I run the particular Linux MATLAB installation I have access to, it must be run from the command-line. Why? More specifically, can't it be started from the XFCE menu with Run Program or right-click the desktop and Create Launcher? Consequently, I have the MATLAB gui and an open terminal window (which only gets in the way). Is there a way to hide this terminal window completely? If I close it, MATLAB closes. I know I can move it to another Workspace, but I'm hoping there's another way. Can't see your command line. If it's just a single command, you could run it as command which will run command in the background and leave it running if you close the terminal window. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Hide Terminal window (using xfce4. and 7.2-RELEASE)?
Why? More specifically, can't it be started from the XFCE menu with Run Program or right-click the desktop and Create Launcher? I don't know, honestly. Whenever I try to run it from a Launcher or via Run Program, it will display the splash screen, but then terminate. This also happens on all Linux machines I use. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Fix It CD, bsdlabel, and /dev?
Polytropon wrote: On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 12:05:13 -0700, Drew Tomlinson d...@mykitchentable.net wrote: Next I used bsdlabel and created 500M a: partitions on two of the drives (ad6 ad8). ^ There is no colon after the partition letter. The colon is used to refer (or change) to the 1st DOS diskette drive. :-) I'm not sure what you mean here. I showed it as a: as that's how bsdlabel reports it when displaying the label 'bsdlabel ad6' for example. However /dev/ad6s1a and /dev/ad8s1a do not exist. I do have entries such as /dev/ad6a and/dev/ad8a but gmirror doesn't like those. What must I do the get them to show after I've labeled? If you have /dev/ad[68]a, it indicates that you haven't created a slice on those disks, instead you created one partition (a) on each of the disks. I think this was part of my problem. For example, I did 'bsdlabel ad6' instead of 'bsdlabel ad6s1'. Now I have entries such as /dev/ad6s1a and /dev/ad8s1a after using 'bsdlabel -e dev'. However now I use 'gmirror label root /dev/ad[68]s1a' as in the guide. No error is reported at the command line but /dev/mirror/root is not created either. Any ideas? Thanks, Drew -- Be a Great Magician! Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Fix It CD, bsdlabel, and /dev?
Wojciech Puchar wrote: However /dev/ad6s1a and /dev/ad8s1a do not exist. I do have entries such as /dev/ad6a and/dev/ad8a but gmirror doesn't like those. What must I do the get them to show after I've labeled? If you have /dev/ad[68]a, it indicates that you haven't created a slice on those disks, instead you created one partition (a) on each of the disks. there is completely NO REASON to create slices at all, unless you want to use windoze on the same drive. i don't have slices on any of my FreeBSD systems I must admit I am confused by slices and partitions. I only want to use FreeBSD on this box. It has 4 drives detected as follows: ad6 - 750 GB ad8 - 500 GB ad12 - 500 GB ad14 - 500 GB My thought is to break the disks up as so: ad6 a: 500M b: 500M d: 465G e: 225G (rest of drive) ad8 a: 500M b: 500M d: 465G (rest of drive) ad12 b: 1000M d: 465G (rest of drive) ad14 b: 1000M d: 465G (rest of drive) Then to install, I want to use gmirror and zfs as so: / - mirror ad6a and ad8a swap - all the b: partitions (if that's the right term) for a total of 3 GB swap. zfs - make a raid1z zpool with ad6d, ad8d, ad12d, and ad14d. in this pool I will create /usr and /var ad6e will just be extra space for some other use. So does my plan make sense? And if so, how can I best accomplish it? Thanks, Drew -- Be a Great Magician! Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Hide Terminal window (using xfce4. and 7.2-RELEASE)?
On Fri, 3 Jul 2009, Daniel Underwood wrote: Why? More specifically, can't it be started from the XFCE menu with Run Program or right-click the desktop and Create Launcher? I don't know, honestly. Whenever I try to run it from a Launcher or via Run Program, it will display the splash screen, but then terminate. This also happens on all Linux machines I use. Some searching suggests matlab -desktop may be what is needed. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Fix It CD, bsdlabel, and /dev?
On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 15:04:45 -0700, Drew Tomlinson d...@mykitchentable.net wrote: Polytropon wrote: On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 12:05:13 -0700, Drew Tomlinson d...@mykitchentable.net wrote: Next I used bsdlabel and created 500M a: partitions on two of the drives (ad6 ad8). ^ There is no colon after the partition letter. The colon is used to refer (or change) to the 1st DOS diskette drive. :-) I'm not sure what you mean here. I showed it as a: as that's how bsdlabel reports it when displaying the label 'bsdlabel ad6' for example. Of course you're correct: bsdlabel shows a:. In terminology, when refering to a partition, it's usually said partition a or partition ad6s1a instead of partition a:. The convention a: - drive letters - is very common in DOS, as well as in other modern MICROS~1 products. In fact, I was just joking, as when people are asking questions about a /home folder or hard discs. Terminology. :-) I think this was part of my problem. For example, I did 'bsdlabel ad6' instead of 'bsdlabel ad6s1'. Now I have entries such as /dev/ad6s1a and /dev/ad8s1a after using 'bsdlabel -e dev'. As Wojciech mentioned, the *need* to have a slice on a disk is mostly not there when you're using BSD only - there's no problem if you don't have a slice, but just one partition covering the whole disk. Then you just operate on this partition. You can even newfs the whole disk without making a partition. In this case, the c partition - the whole disk - is used, and you can omit the c. If you newfs ad6, you end up with a formatted ad6 partition ad6c, which is equivalent to ad6. But that's going off-topic. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Hide Terminal window (using xfce4. and 7.2-RELEASE)?
On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 17:21:58 -0400 Daniel Underwood djuatde...@gmail.com wrote: Why? More specifically, can't it be started from the XFCE menu with Run Program or right-click the desktop and Create Launcher? I don't know, honestly. Whenever I try to run it from a Launcher or via Run Program, it will display the splash screen, but then terminate. This also happens on all Linux machines I use. I'm not familar with MATLAB but you may find ports/sysutils/screen helpful. See http://www.gnu.org/software/screen/ for more information. I use it for starting some programs in a detached mode but they can be reattached at any time. HTH, Randy ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Hide Terminal window (using xfce4. and 7.2-RELEASE)?
On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 18:28:29 -0400, Randy Pratt bsd-u...@embarqmail.com wrote: I'm not familar with MATLAB but you may find ports/sysutils/screen helpful. See http://www.gnu.org/software/screen/ for more information. I use it for starting some programs in a detached mode but they can be reattached at any time. There's a tool called detach included in the ports. It allows you to start a process and then keep it running independent of the existence of its starting shell or your login shell. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Hide Terminal window (using xfce4. and 7.2-RELEASE)?
Some searching suggests matlab -desktop may be what is needed. Yep, that did it! Thanks! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
SUCCESS: Re: gmirror per partition
On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 01:18:28PM +0200, Alban Hertroys wrote: On Jul 3, 2009, at 12:12 PM, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: now to mirror root partition. My problem is that root is mounted and cannot (?) be unmounted, unlike /efi, on the live system. # gpart add -b 819234 -s 1048576 -t freebsd-ufs da1 da1p2 added # # gmirror label -vb round-robin root /dev/da0p2 gmirror: Can't store metadata on /dev/da0p2: Operation not permitted. # If I create gmirror on da1, the spare disk: # gmirror label -vb round-robin root /dev/da1p2 Metadata value stored on /dev/da0p1. Done. # so that # gmirror status NameStatus Components mirror/efi COMPLETE da0p1 da1p1 mirror/root COMPLETE da1p2 # then I still cannot insert da0p2 # gmirror insert root da0p2 gmirror: Cannot access provider da0p2. # So how can I gmirror root partion on a live system? You're almost there... I did this a while ago, can't remember when, but I just upgraded the system that had this from FreeBSD 6.3 of sometime in 2006 to 7.2. What I believe I did from this point on was: Copy everything from the root partition to mirror/root. Modify /etc/fstab to mount root on mirror/root. Reboot. Now the original root partition isn't mounted anymore, so we can do operate on it's geom stuff. gmirror insert root da0p2 That should be it. If that doesn't work you can always boot off a live file-system CD/DVD and perform these actions from there. You won't have man pages in that case though, or at least I couldn't find a way to read them off the DVD last I tried. One thing I'd like to warn about at this point: If you ever upgrade to a kernel with a newer geom metadata version and that new kernel crashes, you're left with a system where the new kernel can't boot at all while the old kernel can't mount the root mirror as it's now of a version it can't handle. You can however mount a single geom provider of that root file system (/dev/da1p2 for example) to try to fix things. That file-system WILL be dirty, but DON'T run fsck on it or you will destroy it's contents. That's what happened to my upgrade above... Thankfully it was only my root partition with hardly any data on it and I did make level 0 dumps before the upgrade, but I needed to restore that FS from a fixit shell without man pages. Augh! thank you, that was helpful. I think I've got it, but it's a bit more complex on ia64 because /boot is a symlink to /efi/boot, which is a separate partition. Anyway, I've got: # gmirror status NameStatus Components mirror/efi COMPLETE da0p1 da1p1 mirror/root COMPLETE da0p2 da1p2 mirror/swap COMPLETE da0p3 da1p3 mirror/var COMPLETE da1p4 da0p4 mirror/tmp COMPLETE da1p5 da0p5 mirror/usr DEGRADED da1p6 da0p6 (24%) # I'll try to write up my experience and post later. thanks again -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
can't get atheros ar2413 to connect under freebsd 7.2
hello,
I've been trying to set my wireless card under Freebsd 7.2-RELEASE, but no
success (it worked fine on 7.0).. would appreciate some advice
in /boot/loader.conf:
if_ath_load=YES
wlan_tkip_load=YES
wlan_scan_ap_load=YES
wlan_scan_sta_load=YES
in: /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf:
network={
ssid=Myssid
key_mgmt=WPA-PSK
psk=MySharedPhrase
}
and in /etc/rc.conf:
ifconfig_ath0=WPA DHCP
then i run/etc/rc.d/netif start
it gives up
** by the way.. ifconfig ath0 up scangives nothing.. not even an error
message.. what shall i do ??
thanks
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FreeBSD 7.2 o/s on a flash stick
Aloha Gurus. All the gogle-ing I did does not give a current status on or how-to on installing FreeBSD 7.2 on a flash stick on one slice with the default partions. I want to boot from it on a mini lap top ( no CD ) and use it like the hd inside. I see plenty of how-to's on loading Flash sticks for installing on other boxes and using a 2 slice flash to load FreeBSD onto other duplicate boxes again. All I need is to have a FreeBSD o/s on the stick so I can use it instead of the OS on the existing laptop. I'm sure I saw on this list where somebody did this successfully but I cant find it. Any help is appreciated. Thanks. ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* - 8.* + email: n...@hdk5.net All that's really worth doing is what we do for others.- Lewis Carrol ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Fix It CD, bsdlabel, and /dev?
On Fri, 3 Jul 2009, Drew Tomlinson wrote: Wojciech Puchar wrote: However /dev/ad6s1a and /dev/ad8s1a do not exist. I do have entries such as /dev/ad6a and/dev/ad8a but gmirror doesn't like those. What must I do the get them to show after I've labeled? If you have /dev/ad[68]a, it indicates that you haven't created a slice on those disks, instead you created one partition (a) on each of the disks. there is completely NO REASON to create slices at all, unless you want to use windoze on the same drive. i don't have slices on any of my FreeBSD systems I must admit I am confused by slices and partitions. I only want to use FreeBSD on this box. It has 4 drives detected as follows: Try http://www.freebsdwiki.net/ and search for 'disk partitions' Sections on Hard Disk Partition Sizes Partitioning Tips and Tricks should be helpful. You can adapt these concepts to suit how your system is to be used and to take advantage of the hardware you have. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 7.2 o/s on a flash stick
Al Plant wrote: Aloha Gurus. All the gogle-ing I did does not give a current status on or how-to on installing FreeBSD 7.2 on a flash stick on one slice with the default partions. I want to boot from it on a mini lap top ( no CD ) and use it like the hd inside. I see plenty of how-to's on loading Flash sticks for installing on other boxes and using a 2 slice flash to load FreeBSD onto other duplicate boxes again. All I need is to have a FreeBSD o/s on the stick so I can use it instead of the OS on the existing laptop. I'm sure I saw on this list where somebody did this successfully but I cant find it. Any help is appreciated. Thanks. ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* - 8.* + email: n...@hdk5.net All that's really worth doing is what we do for others.- Lewis Carrol ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Hi Al The way i have done this in 7.0 7.1 and 7.2 is to boot off the cd1 install cd and do a normal install to my 1gb flash stick. A 1gb flash stick is to small for the default slice sizes. You will have to manually allocate the / /usr /var /swap sizes. I also found it usefully to set the boot flag when allocating the whole flash stick. A 2gb or larger flash stick allows you to take the auto-allocate option for / /usr /var /swap sizes. Keep in mind that your /var log files can fill up you flash stick real quick and lock up your system. If your running this flash stick 7/24 then rotate them more often deleting the oldest one. It's as simple as that. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
VT100 FreeBSD spreadsheet with data manipulation connections
I'm looking for a command-line (VT100) FreeBSD spreadsheet that has data manipulation connections. That is: other applications can edit the spreadsheet (via some API), and the spreadsheet can run commands when cells are edited. My goal: create a VT100 spreadsheet-like interface to sqlite3 (and maybe other dbs). -- We're just a Bunch Of Regular Guys, a collective group that's trying to understand and assimilate technology. We feel that resistance to new ideas and technology is unwise and ultimately futile. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
