Re: .Xdefaults file

2009-12-25 Thread Anh Ky Huynh
On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 22:10:26 +
Jamie Griffin j...@koderize.com wrote:

 On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 01:45:52PM -0800, Rem P Roberti wrote:
 
   I think case matters here, i.e. XTerm*, not Xterm or xterm.
  
  Exactly the problem.  Thank you!
 
 Curious, on my system (7.2) my ~/.Xdefaults uses lowercase
 'xterm*...' values.
 

You can use XTerm or xterm because both of them are use to identify xterm. You 
can see that when invoking `xprop` on a default xterm windows.

BTW, you can specify the windows class

xterm -class FooBar

then you use it in the ~/.Xdefaults

FooBar*background: black
Foobar*fonts: ...

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freebsd for children

2009-12-25 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
Can somebody recommend a graphical port which could be used
to teach kids 6-8 years programming? I know it's a very
vague question, but what I have in mind (possibly) is
say an interpreter linked with some graphical enviroment,
perhaps drawing with commands, or making animations,
or maybe music?

Something that would make kids or that age curious,
some programming environment that they can easily
understand and enjoy. A programming game of sorts?

many thanks


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Re: freebsd for children

2009-12-25 Thread Anh Ky Huynh
On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 11:33:14 +
Anton Shterenlikht me...@bristol.ac.uk wrote:

 Can somebody recommend a graphical port which could be used
 to teach kids 6-8 years programming? I know it's a very
 vague question, but what I have in mind (possibly) is
 say an interpreter linked with some graphical enviroment,
 perhaps drawing with commands, or making animations,
 or maybe music?
 
 Something that would make kids or that age curious,
 some programming environment that they can easily
 understand and enjoy. A programming game of sorts?
 

I know the `logo` language (aport lang/ucblogo, lang/klogoturtle, etc) which is 
used in our educational environment (Vietnamese), but for the older pupils  (= 
10 years old).

Hope this helps,

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Re: freebsd for children

2009-12-25 Thread herbert langhans
Maybe you find something appropriate on http://icewalkers.com - there are 
sections for education. I guess many of these are ported to FreeBSD, or just 
use the Linux program.

Something like this i.e.
http://www.icewalkers.com/Linux/Software/531160/Little-Wizard.html

Cheers
herb langhans

  
On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 11:33:14AM +, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
 Can somebody recommend a graphical port which could be used
 to teach kids 6-8 years programming? I know it's a very
 vague question, but what I have in mind (possibly) is
 say an interpreter linked with some graphical enviroment,
 perhaps drawing with commands, or making animations,
 or maybe music?
 
 Something that would make kids or that age curious,
 some programming environment that they can easily
 understand and enjoy. A programming game of sorts?
 
 many thanks
 
 
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Re: freebsd for children

2009-12-25 Thread b. f.
Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
Can somebody recommend a graphical port which could be used
to teach kids 6-8 years programming? I know it's a very
vague question, but what I have in mind (possibly) is
say an interpreter linked with some graphical enviroment,
perhaps drawing with commands, or making animations,
or maybe music?

Something that would make kids or that age curious,
some programming environment that they can easily
understand and enjoy. A programming game of sorts?


I don't know if all of these are available on FreeBSD, but you may
find this interesting:

http://www.marshallbrain.com/kids-programming.htm

Is this aimed at getting your 7-year-old to maintain your FreeBSD
systems for you? ;)


b.
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Re: Centralized Wi-Fi Management with FreeBSD

2009-12-25 Thread Zamri Besar
On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Zamri Besar zam4e...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello guys,

 I need advices and information about above matter. I'm googling about
 centralized wi-fi management concept like Lightweight Access Point Protocol
 (LWAPP) with FreeBSD/*BSD, but from my finding, I can't find any
 FreeBSD/*BSD or opensource projects similar with it.

 Is there by any chance that FreeBSD/*BSD or any opensource group is working
 with similar above concept which I can refer to and give tests?

 http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ohara-capwap-lwapp-04
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LWAPP

 Have a nice weekend!

 -zamri-



And before I forgot, I've read about open source CAPWAP.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/capwap/

-zamri-
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Re: Wireless USB adapter

2009-12-25 Thread Paul B Mahol
On 12/24/09, Carmel carmel...@hotmail.com wrote:
 FreeBSD-7.2

 I have a Linksys Wireless-N USB Network Adapter, model: WUSB600N that I
 am trying to get installed.

 When I insert the USB adapter this message appears in /var/messages:

 Dec 24 14:30:22 scorpio kernel: ugen0: Cisco-Linksys LLC Dual-Band
 Wireless-N USB Network Adapter, class 0/0, rev 2.00/1.01, addr 2 on uhub1

 Dec 24 14:30:22 scorpio root: Unknown USB device: vendor 0x1737 product
 0x0071 bus uhub1

 I used 'ndisgen' to create the driver and then loaded it via 'kldload'.

After kldload is there something displayed on console?

 That is as far as I can get. I cannot bring the interface up. I have
 read the 'wireless' setup guide on FreeBSD; however, I am not getting
 very far with it.

 If someone else here has used that device, I would appreciate seeing
 their configuration.

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Centralized Wi-Fi Management with FreeBSD

2009-12-25 Thread Zamri Besar
Hello guys,

I need advices and information about above matter. I'm googling about
centralized wi-fi management concept like Lightweight Access Point Protocol
(LWAPP) with FreeBSD/*BSD, but from my finding, I can't find any
FreeBSD/*BSD or opensource projects similar with it.

Is there by any chance that FreeBSD/*BSD or any opensource group is working
with similar above concept which I can refer to and give tests?

http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ohara-capwap-lwapp-04
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LWAPP

Have a nice weekend!

-zamri-
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Re: Wireless USB adapter

2009-12-25 Thread Paul B Mahol
On 12/25/09, Paul B Mahol one...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 12/24/09, Carmel carmel...@hotmail.com wrote:
 FreeBSD-7.2

Argh, sorry but 7.2 doesnt have NDIS usb support. You need FreeBSD 8.0
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Re: freebsd for children

2009-12-25 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 08:18:44AM -0500, b. f. wrote:
 Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
 Can somebody recommend a graphical port which could be used
 to teach kids 6-8 years programming? I know it's a very
 vague question, but what I have in mind (possibly) is
 say an interpreter linked with some graphical enviroment,
 perhaps drawing with commands, or making animations,
 or maybe music?
 
 Something that would make kids or that age curious,
 some programming environment that they can easily
 understand and enjoy. A programming game of sorts?
 
 
 I don't know if all of these are available on FreeBSD, but you may
 find this interesting:
 
 http://www.marshallbrain.com/kids-programming.htm

thanks, that's interesting

 
 Is this aimed at getting your 7-year-old to maintain your FreeBSD
 systems for you? ;)
 

eventually.. in the short term it's about joy of programming

by the way, many thanks for svn, I'll install it on
my other machines. YOu were right about the revision,
I got the i386 rebuilt now.

see you
anton

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Re: Wireless USB adapter

2009-12-25 Thread Carmel
On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 15:29:20 +0100
Paul B Mahol one...@gmail.com replied:

Argh, sorry but 7.2 doesnt have NDIS usb support. You need FreeBSD 8.0

I have been reading up on this. So I assume that it is not possible to
get this adapter working under FreeBSD-7.2 then. Is there a native
driver for this adapter under 8.0 or will I need to build the driver
from the Windows driver?

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Re: freebsd for children

2009-12-25 Thread Uwe Laverenz

Anton Shterenlikht schrieb:


Can somebody recommend a graphical port which could be used
to teach kids 6-8 years programming? I know it's a very
vague question, but what I have in mind (possibly) is
say an interpreter linked with some graphical enviroment,
perhaps drawing with commands, or making animations,
or maybe music?


I never tested it myself but I heard/read about it:

http://www.squeak.org/

It's in the ports: lang/squeak (i386 only)

Uwe

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Re: freebsd for children

2009-12-25 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 04:56:21PM +0100, Uwe Laverenz wrote:
 Anton Shterenlikht schrieb:
 
  Can somebody recommend a graphical port which could be used
  to teach kids 6-8 years programming? I know it's a very
  vague question, but what I have in mind (possibly) is
  say an interpreter linked with some graphical enviroment,
  perhaps drawing with commands, or making animations,
  or maybe music?
 
 I never tested it myself but I heard/read about it:
 
 http://www.squeak.org/
 
 It's in the ports: lang/squeak (i386 only)

I use sparc.

thank you anyway

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Re: Wireless USB adapter

2009-12-25 Thread Paul B Mahol
On 12/25/09, Carmel carmel...@hotmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 15:29:20 +0100
 Paul B Mahol one...@gmail.com replied:

Argh, sorry but 7.2 doesnt have NDIS usb support. You need FreeBSD 8.0

 I have been reading up on this. So I assume that it is not possible to
 get this adapter working under FreeBSD-7.2 then. Is there a native
 driver for this adapter under 8.0 or will I need to build the driver
 from the Windows driver?

On 8.0 you can use NDISulator or run(4) driver, for the last solution
search forums.freebsd.org

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Re: Checksum mismatch -- will transfer entire file

2009-12-25 Thread David Kelly

On Dec 25, 2009, at 12:43 AM, Victor Sudakov wrote:

 Colleagues,
 
 Am I the only one to have this problem? 


No.

Telling you more than I know: FreeBSD.org is moving (or has moved) from CVS to 
SVN. Is my guess that what we are seeing is an artifact of that move where data 
is hacked into cvs compatible format and all cvsup can do is pull down the 
entire file.

I would be happy to use svn as I do for my own projects.

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microphone in FreeBSD 8.0

2009-12-25 Thread ajtiM
Hi!

My system: FreeBSD 8.0 GNERIC i386, KDE 4.3.4
mixer
Mixer vol  is currently set to  57:57
Mixer pcm  is currently set to  75:75
Mixer speaker  is currently set to  75:75
Mixer line is currently set to  75:75
Mixer mic  is currently set to  82:82
Mixer cd   is currently set to  75:75
Mixer rec  is currently set to  75:75
Mixer igainis currently set to  81:81
Mixer ogainis currently set to  78:78
Mixer line1is currently set to  75:75
Mixer line2is currently set to  56:56
Mixer line3is currently set to  46:46
Mixer dig1 is currently set to  69:69
Mixer dig2 is currently set to  54:54
Mixer dig3 is currently set to  54:54
Mixer phin is currently set to  56:56
Mixer phoutis currently set to  56:56
Mixer videois currently set to  75:75
Recording source: mic

Microphone on KDE 4.3.4 doesn't work. I use Skype, sound is okay but the other 
site don't hear me. I did try Audacity and microphone doesn't work too. 
If I talk in the microphe I hear myself in the speakers. If I mute 
microphone in KMixer, there are no differencies. I still hear myself in the 
speakers.

Thanks in advance.
Mitja

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example c program that does beep

2009-12-25 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
How can I get a beep from c?
I looked at curses and syscons.c, but
still not clear.
Could somebody send me an example.
I'd be soo grateful.

many thanks
anton

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Re: example c program that does beep

2009-12-25 Thread Aryeh Friedman
printf(\007); /* assumes that your using a console/terminal that
will beep on ctl-g */

On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Anton Shterenlikht me...@bristol.ac.uk wrote:
 How can I get a beep from c?
 I looked at curses and syscons.c, but
 still not clear.
 Could somebody send me an example.
 I'd be soo grateful.

 many thanks
 anton

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Re: example c program that does beep

2009-12-25 Thread Joe Marcus Clarke
On Fri, 2009-12-25 at 18:58 +, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
 How can I get a beep from c?
 I looked at curses and syscons.c, but
 still not clear.
 Could somebody send me an example.
 I'd be soo grateful.

#include stdio.h

int
main(int argc, char **argv) {
printf(%c, 7);
return(0);
}

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Re: example c program that does beep

2009-12-25 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 18:58:26 +, Anton Shterenlikht me...@bristol.ac.uk 
wrote:
 How can I get a beep from c?
 I looked at curses and syscons.c, but
 still not clear.

If you want to use NCURSES / CURSES, it's a bit complicated.

Otherwise, just output %c (the character) 0x07, BEL, which
generates an audible bell, or beep.



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Re: example c program that does beep

2009-12-25 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 18:58:26 +, Anton Shterenlikht me...@bristol.ac.uk 
wrote:
 How can I get a beep from c?
 I looked at curses and syscons.c, but
 still not clear.

If you want to use NCURSES / CURSES, it's a bit complicated.

Otherwise, just output %c (the character) 0x07, BEL, which
generates an audible bell, or beep.


*** text/plain attachement has been stripped *** RETRY ***

/* beepflash.c
 * ---
 * cc -Wall -lcurses -o beepflash beepflash.c
 *
 */

#include stdio.h
#include ncurses.h

int main(int argc, char *argv[])
{
initscr();
cbreak();
noecho();
nonl();
intrflush(stdscr, FALSE);
keypad(stdscr, TRUE);
start_color();

printf(beep: %d\n, beep());
fflush(stdout);

printf(flash: %d\n, flash());
fflush(stdout);

return 0;
}





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Re: build 7.x kernel without zfs

2009-12-25 Thread krad
2009/12/24 Rolf G Nielsen laz...@lazlarlyricon.com

 Oles Hnatkevych wrote:

 Hi!

 Since my installation has 496Mb on root partition, having to kernels
 (current and old) there becomes pain, only 4Mb free left.

 How can I build kernel without zfs module, since it consumes 12Mb with
 symbols?



 Hi Oles,

 I'm not sure how to specify which modules not to build, but to build only
 the modules you need, use MODULES_OVERRIDE in your kernel config file. E.g.
 the following line will build and install only atapicam and ext2fs.

 makeoptions MODULES_OVERRIDE=atapicam ext2fs

 To find out what modules you use, just type kldstat in the console, and add
 the listed modules to the MODULES_OVERRIDE.

 You can also specify that you don't want debug symbols built by removing or
 commenting out the makeoptions DEBUG=-g line.

 Rolf Nielsen

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have a look at the man page for src.conf there are loads of options there to
stop bits building. eg games, zfs, bluetooth etc
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clicky driver

2009-12-25 Thread Gary Kline


People,

Some of you know that I've been working on a speech-computer:
a small, easily portable computer than virtually anyone can 
afford.  (To be fair, there is a touchscreen device that uses 
Windows.  If you have at least $9,000 to spend.]

I have spend the past weeks checking out the OLPC XO computer.
It comes with espeak which lots of speech-impaired find a lousy 
way of giving them a voice.  The size of the keyboard is an issue;
another issue is that the computer had RH on ROM.  One developer 
told me that the keys are hard to press and have no feedback.  
Nothing tactile, and because neither Linux nor BSD has an audio
click, not even that.  Sun does have a command line 

% click -[yn]

which is a start.  

If someone in the kernel-side would work with me and add the 
Audio click, I will look at some of the netbooks to see how 
usable they are.  There are millions of people world-wide with
impaired speech who can type.  The variation is too wide for
anyone or any device to cover everything, but that, so far, is the
rational to do nothing.

As a first cut, is there somebody on the kernel side I should check
with to see about adding a click driver?

thanks in advance.


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Re: freebsd for children

2009-12-25 Thread Michaël Grünewald
  Message du 25/12/09 17:06
 De : Anton Shterenlikht
 A : Uwe Laverenz
 Copie à : freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Objet : Re: freebsd for children

 On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 04:56:21PM +0100, Uwe Laverenz wrote:
  Anton Shterenlikht schrieb:
 
   Can somebody recommend a graphical port which could be used
   to teach kids 6-8 years programming? I know it's a very
   vague question, but what I have in mind (possibly) is
   say an interpreter linked with some graphical enviroment,
   perhaps drawing with commands, or making animations,
   or maybe music?
 
  I never tested it myself but I heard/read about it:
 
  http://www.squeak.org/
 
  It's in the ports: lang/squeak (i386 only)
I had my first programming experience at 7 with LOGO on MO6. This is a very 
primitive drawing language, and as I remember I have had some fun with it! 
There is some ports (search for LOGO in the port name) of the LOGO language on 
FreeBSD, but I never try any of them! I hope one will do for you.
Cheers,
Michael


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Re: clicky driver

2009-12-25 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 12:47:49 -0800, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
   If someone in the kernel-side would work with me and add the 
   Audio click, I will look at some of the netbooks to see how 
   usable they are. 

One problem might occur when the desired device doesn't have
a PC speaker functionality and only offers sound output
through the sound card (inside the chipset, which is a chip,
and mostly is the CPU itself). Programming a PC speaker beep
is, as far as I can imagine, more simple to implement than
a sound generation by the DSP (which requires a driver to
do so).



 There are millions of people world-wide with
   impaired speech who can type. 

There are also millions of blind people world-wide, but
web developers don't pay any attention on them. :-)



   As a first cut, is there somebody on the kernel side I should check
   with to see about adding a click driver?

You could initially have a look at the atkbd (or ukbd?)
source files. Maybe just inserting some output of the
ASCII character 0x07 (BEL) after each recognized keypress
would be sufficient, but... no, it won't be that easy. :-)


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strange find process

2009-12-25 Thread Anh Ky Huynh
Hi all,

At 2:00 am today, I turned my laptop on and suddenly found a strange process:

$ ps xauw | grep find
... find -sx ./bin -type f 
 ( -perm -u+x -or -perm -g+x -or -perm -o+x )
   ( -perm -u+s -or -perm -g+s ) -exec ls -liTd {} +

What is the purpose of this process? If that is a system check then where is 
the log file?

Thank you for your replies,

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location of discussion of lives

2009-12-25 Thread leeoliveshackelford
Good morning, dear FreeBSD enthusiast.  Can you help me to negotiate the 
FreeBSD website?  I am trying to find a general discussion about livefs.   I 
have not been successful at entering the correct sequence of search terms to 
find a general discussion about this topic.  I would like to know what this 
feature does, and the situation in which a user would wish to install it.  My 
question would refer to either release 7 or release 8.  Thanks for any and all 
enlightenment.  Yours truly, Lee S.
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Re: clicky driver

2009-12-25 Thread Gary Kline
On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 10:01:31PM +0100, Polytropon wrote:
 On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 12:47:49 -0800, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
  If someone in the kernel-side would work with me and add the 
  Audio click, I will look at some of the netbooks to see how 
  usable they are. 
 
 One problem might occur when the desired device doesn't have
 a PC speaker functionality and only offers sound output
 through the sound card (inside the chipset, which is a chip,
 and mostly is the CPU itself). Programming a PC speaker beep
 is, as far as I can imagine, more simple to implement than
 a sound generation by the DSP (which requires a driver to
 do so).
 

at first I'm lookings for a cots (commericial, off-the-shelf)
solution.  The XO has stereo speakers and so do the notebooks.  
I am thinking of the 'PC speaker'; something that would sound for
around a 25th/second, very low and with at least some loudness
control.  

The xset utility let me turn off repeating keys so that I
do type type that way.  xset also has a key-click
setting for click and loudness.  Don't know about pitch.  That
would need to be integrated with what I'm thinking of.

 
 
  There are millions of people world-wide with
  impaired speech who can type. 
 
 There are also millions of blind people world-wide, but
 web developers don't pay any attention on them. :-)
 


There are a few who actually *do* have text-only pages.
(That's another issue: getting espeak or festival to be
able to read aloud: ``Hello, how's it going?'' ...)

In the third-word are at least millions of disabled folks--
mostly mouldering.  Some thinking: What the hey? Why not 
blow myself up and then wake up in paradise? I'll get 70
angels all to myself. Oh-boy.

Education is the only solution, even tho it will take generations.
That's why I think the XO is a win++

 
 
  As a first cut, is there somebody on the kernel side I should check
  with to see about adding a click driver?
 
 You could initially have a look at the atkbd (or ukbd?)
 source files. Maybe just inserting some output of the
 ASCII character 0x07 (BEL) after each recognized keypress
 would be sufficient, but... no, it won't be that easy. :-)
 

Circa fall, 1999 I did this; it was almost concurrent with a 
power-out-power-on-power-out-power-on  all within 7 of 8 seconds.
That blew mt almost new 9.1G SCSI drive.  I said 'bleep it' and 
quit.  ---this was when my shoulder started dislocate, c, so...--

Anyway, thanks for the clue, Polyt.   Anybody else?  I have written
other k-side drivers, but that was in the mid-80s.  They are a bear 
to test... .



 
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Re: clicky driver

2009-12-25 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 13:37:13 -0800, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
   at first I'm lookings for a cots (commericial, off-the-shelf)
   solution.  The XO has stereo speakers and so do the notebooks.  
   I am thinking of the 'PC speaker'; something that would sound for
   around a 25th/second, very low and with at least some loudness
   control.  
 
   The xset utility let me turn off repeating keys so that I
   do type type that way.  xset also has a key-click
   setting for click and loudness.  Don't know about pitch.  That
   would need to be integrated with what I'm thinking of.

There's xset b vol pitch duration; vol cannot be changed
for the PC speaker, pitch is in Hz and duration in ms. If
vol is  100, it's functionality is implemented by shortening
the duration. A command like xset b 100 100 25 should give
what you want. As far as I understood, the PC speaker has no
volume control per se.


   There are a few who actually *do* have text-only pages.

And fewer do have alt= and longdesc= for included images.
Being suitable for blind users doesn't mean to completely
look boring to viewing users. Careful HTML coding is the key.
But sadly, it's not considered modern... :-(



   In the third-word are at least millions of disabled folks--
   mostly mouldering.  Some thinking: What the hey? Why not 
   blow myself up and then wake up in paradise? I'll get 70
   angels all to myself. Oh-boy.

Hmmm... that sounds appealing. :-)



   Education is the only solution, even tho it will take generations.
   That's why I think the XO is a win++

It can help, if properly used. Wrong use can lead into the
opposite. I can only tell you from Germany where school and
education are epically failing since 1990, even though they
employ modern means of education... a joke from an educational
(scientifical) point of view.





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Re: example c program that does beep

2009-12-25 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 08:34:39PM +0100, Polytropon wrote:
 On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 18:58:26 +, Anton Shterenlikht me...@bristol.ac.uk 
 wrote:
  How can I get a beep from c?
  I looked at curses and syscons.c, but
  still not clear.
 
 If you want to use NCURSES / CURSES, it's a bit complicated.

tput bel

(that's part of ncurses - though your configuration iirc doesn't have
a fully-functional tput).

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Re: freebsd for children

2009-12-25 Thread Kurt Buff
On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 03:33, Anton Shterenlikht me...@bristol.ac.uk wrote:
 Can somebody recommend a graphical port which could be used
 to teach kids 6-8 years programming? I know it's a very
 vague question, but what I have in mind (possibly) is
 say an interpreter linked with some graphical enviroment,
 perhaps drawing with commands, or making animations,
 or maybe music?

 Something that would make kids or that age curious,
 some programming environment that they can easily
 understand and enjoy. A programming game of sorts?

 many thanks

This is much like what you're looking for, but I don't know if it's
been ported to FreeBSD:

http://scratch.mit.edu/
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Re: clicky driver

2009-12-25 Thread Gary Kline
On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 10:53:43PM +0100, Polytropon wrote:
 On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 13:37:13 -0800, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
  at first I'm lookings for a cots (commericial, off-the-shelf)
  solution.  The XO has stereo speakers and so do the notebooks.  
  I am thinking of the 'PC speaker'; something that would sound for
  around a 25th/second, very low and with at least some loudness
  control.  
  
  The xset utility let me turn off repeating keys so that I
  do type type that way.  xset also has a key-click
  setting for click and loudness.  Don't know about pitch.  That
  would need to be integrated with what I'm thinking of.
 
 There's xset b vol pitch duration; vol cannot be changed
 for the PC speaker, pitch is in Hz and duration in ms. If
 vol is  100, it's functionality is implemented by shortening
 the duration. A command like xset b 100 100 25 should give
 what you want. As far as I understood, the PC speaker has no
 volume control per se.
 


you cmd example failed on my Konsole; the usage output was
output.  The beep is extremely low on the old Dell, and I'm
still running without X11 on my server.  

I'll poke around for other, things that don't requie X.  I'm
looking at the drivers too.

 
  There are a few who actually *do* have text-only pages.
 
 And fewer do have alt= and longdesc= for included images.
 Being suitable for blind users doesn't mean to completely
 look boring to viewing users. Careful HTML coding is the key.
 But sadly, it's not considered modern... :-(
 


Right on the money there!  I suppose it's easier to slap up some
pix.  maybe I do things with fewer photos because I hand-code html.
In any case, I'm very conscious of my markup; I always check it via
lynx .

 
 
  In the third-word are at least millions of disabled folks--
  mostly mouldering.  Some thinking: What the hey? Why not 
  blow myself up and then wake up in paradise? I'll get 70
  angels all to myself. Oh-boy.
 
 Hmmm... that sounds appealing. :-)
 

lOL, really.

 
 
  Education is the only solution, even tho it will take generations.
  That's why I think the XO is a win++
 
 It can help, if properly used. Wrong use can lead into the
 opposite. I can only tell you from Germany where school and
 education are epically failing since 1990, even though they
 employ modern means of education... a joke from an educational
 (scientifical) point of view.
 
 


Are there regional differences, still? East/west? whatever?
And how does GErmany stack up compared to the rest of the EU?
And the States.  Public school or university?  Here it seems that 
lots of our grade schools are losing; grades 6-9 same. 9-12, 
same.

Hey, the West is already losing to South and East Asia.   I'm not
entirely sorry.  I say: let them muck around with global problems;
see how they faire.Blah * 3.   

:)

gary

PS: any idea how I can get/fetch the kdbio modules from of 2.2 to of 
3.1?
 
 
 
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Re: location of discussion of lives

2009-12-25 Thread Michael Powell
leeoliveshackelf...@surewest.net wrote:

 Good morning, dear FreeBSD enthusiast.  Can you help me to negotiate the
 FreeBSD website?  I am trying to find a general discussion about livefs.
   I have not been successful at entering the correct sequence of search
 terms to find a general discussion about this topic.  I would like to know
 what this feature does, and the situation in which a user would wish to
 install it.  My question would refer to either release 7 or release 8. 
 Thanks for any and all enlightenment.  Yours truly, Lee S.

The LiveFS is a bootable CD with a very minimal set of utilities present. It 
is somewhat comparable to the minimal install, except booting from a CD. You 
would not necessarily install it. It is primarily a system admin tool to 
aid in recovery of a damaged system, or can also be used to initially pre-
configure a system in special ways which are not yet included in the 
standard sysinstall. Such things may be GPT partitioning, setting up drives 
for ZFS, and the like. It is more of a fixit/rescue tool, and for other 
advanced sysadmin functions.

-Mike



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Re: strange find process

2009-12-25 Thread Michael Powell
Anh Ky Huynh wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 At 2:00 am today, I turned my laptop on and suddenly found a strange
 process:
 
 $ ps xauw | grep find
 ... find -sx ./bin -type f
  ( -perm -u+x -or -perm -g+x -or -perm -o+x )
( -perm -u+s -or -perm -g+s ) -exec ls -liTd {} +
 
 What is the purpose of this process? If that is a system check then where
 is the log file?

There are some scripts called periodic which execute and perform various 
different things depending upon whether it is a daily, weekly, or monthly. 
The output will get emailed to root, or redirected to an alias of root.

The above looks strangely enough like a snippet of this activity. The daily 
usually runs every morning here at 3AM, the weekly rebuilds the locate and 
whatis database something like 4:15AM Saturday morning, and the monthly is 
an end of the month count of login activity.

More info can be found in man periodic. There is a periodic.conf in 
/etc/defaults, and the scripts themselves live in /etc/periodic and you can 
take a look. My bet is you stumbled upon one of the periodic script runs.

-Mike
 


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graphics card/monitor question

2009-12-25 Thread Chris Whitehouse

Hi all,

My motherboard has onboard nvidia GeForce 8300 graphics rated up to 
1920x1080 (1080p). It has VGA, DVI and HDMI outputs. Are there any 
issues using a 1920x1080 monitor with HDMI  like LG electronics W2361V? 
Eg would this mode need special drivers? Or should it all just work?


http://uk.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=amYCbidk7vhOQLWp
http://www.lge.com/uk/it-products/monitors/LG-lcd-monitor-W2361V.jsp

I'm using FreeBSD 8 i386 with x11/nvidia-driver

Thanks very much for any comments and I hope you all had an enjoyable 
christmas.


Chris
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Re: clicky driver

2009-12-25 Thread Chris Whitehouse

Gary Kline wrote:

On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 13:37:13 -0800, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:

at first I'm lookings for a cots (commericial, off-the-shelf)
	solution.  The XO has stereo speakers and so do the notebooks.  
	I am thinking of the 'PC speaker'; something that would sound for

around a 25th/second, very low and with at least some loudness
	control.  


Hi Gary,

someone posted recently about the play-string language for /dev/speaker, 
see speaker(4). Could you do something with that?


btw thanks to whoever posted the play-string code for frere jaques - 
cracked me up :)


Chris
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Re: Wireless USB adapter

2009-12-25 Thread Roland Smith
On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 05:24:32PM +0100, Paul B Mahol wrote:
 On 12/25/09, Carmel carmel...@hotmail.com wrote:
  On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 15:29:20 +0100
  Paul B Mahol one...@gmail.com replied:
 
 Argh, sorry but 7.2 doesnt have NDIS usb support. You need FreeBSD 8.0
 
  I have been reading up on this. So I assume that it is not possible to
  get this adapter working under FreeBSD-7.2 then. Is there a native
  driver for this adapter under 8.0 or will I need to build the driver
  from the Windows driver?
 
 On 8.0 you can use NDISulator or run(4) driver, for the last solution
 search forums.freebsd.org

There exists a run(4) in OpenBSD that suppports the RT2870 in the
WUSB600N. But not in FreeBSD yet, not in 8-STABLE
http://svn.freebsd.org/viewvc/base/stable/8/sys/dev/usb/wlan/
and not even in HEAD; 
http://svn.freebsd.org/viewvc/base/head/sys/dev/usb/wlan/

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setlocale command is missing

2009-12-25 Thread Daniel Dvořák
Hi,
 
I updated a mc port to the last one, version 4.7.0pre4 and wanted to run mc, 
but mc display a warning message that the selected display charset or source 
codeset does not match one set via locale. I have never seen this message since 
I am a user of mc. Propably it is something new in this new version. The 
version 4.6.2 does not show you this message durring starting application.
 
I wanted to set my locale, but I found out that command setlocale is missing on 
FreeBSD 7.2.
 
Files in directory /etc:
 
login.conf, login.conf.db, csh.login and profile are set as HANDBOOK recommends 
for language localization.
 
My shells are bash, tcsh or zsh, csh for root user. The results are the same.
 
bash:
[u...@server ~]$ LC_ALL=ISO-8859-2; export LC_ALL
-bash: varování: setlocale: LC_ALL: cannot change locale (ISO-8859-2): No such 
file or directory
 
zsh:
server% setlocale LC_ALL ISO-8859-2
zsh: command not found: setlocale

tcsh:
 setlocale LC_ALL ISO-8859-2
setlocale: Command not found.

root csh:
server# setlocale LC_ALL ISO-8859-2
setlocale: Command not found.

So my simple question is why is setlocale command missing in FreeBSD 7.2 ? And 
if user could not use locale and setlocale commands like on Linux, how can I 
solve my problem with new version of MC ?
 
The mc message:
 
Confirmation
 
Chosen display charset (Settings-Display bits) or source codeset (in mcedit 
ctrl-t) does not match one set via locale. Set correct codeset manually or 
press Fix it to set locale default.
 
Or set 'don' task again' and press Skip
 
[ ] don't ask again
 
[ Fix it ]   [ Skip ]
 
BTW in mc there is not any settings with display bits, there is only options 
menu with display bits. Wrong help dialogs ?
 
Thank you
 
Daniel
 
 
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Re: clicky driver

2009-12-25 Thread Roland Smith
On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 12:47:49PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
   Nothing tactile, and because neither Linux nor BSD has an audio
   click, not even that.  Sun does have a command line 

It should. The X window system provides a way to get keyclicks with
xset(1). The command 'xset c 100' whould generate the loudest click possible.

Whether you hear something depends e.g. on how the X server is started, and
wether the hardware supports it. On my PC I hear the 'bell' from the PC
speaker, but no clicks.

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Package Dependency Issue

2009-12-25 Thread Joseph L. Casale
Hi,
New to FreeBSD, it seems that in each of a few vm's I stoke up when
I try to install openvpn-auth-ldap via `pkg_add -r` I expect as per
the man page for it to pull in all the deps it needs but it seems on
any given try, it misses something different?

I have tried searching the web to figure out how to look for a package
that provides a file I need when something is missing but I am lost.

On one try, I got:

Shared object libgssapi.so.9 not found, required by libldap-2.4.so.6

and I couldn't find what provided this? I see cyrus-sasl2 provides a v2?

On another install it complained over a myriad of krb5 and tasn1 libs etc...

Any advice appreciated!
Thanks,
jlc
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Re: setlocale command is missing

2009-12-25 Thread Rolf G Nielsen

Daniel Dvořák wrote:

Hi,
 
I updated a mc port to the last one, version 4.7.0pre4 and wanted to run mc, but mc display a warning message that the selected display charset or source codeset does not match one set via locale. I have never seen this message since I am a user of mc. Propably it is something new in this new version. The version 4.6.2 does not show you this message durring starting application.
 
I wanted to set my locale, but I found out that command setlocale is missing on FreeBSD 7.2.
 
Files in directory /etc:
 
login.conf, login.conf.db, csh.login and profile are set as HANDBOOK recommends for language localization.
 
My shells are bash, tcsh or zsh, csh for root user. The results are the same.
 
bash:

[u...@server ~]$ LC_ALL=ISO-8859-2; export LC_ALL
-bash: varování: setlocale: LC_ALL: cannot change locale (ISO-8859-2): No such 
file or directory
 
zsh:

server% setlocale LC_ALL ISO-8859-2
zsh: command not found: setlocale

tcsh:

setlocale LC_ALL ISO-8859-2

setlocale: Command not found.

root csh:
server# setlocale LC_ALL ISO-8859-2
setlocale: Command not found.

So my simple question is why is setlocale command missing in FreeBSD 7.2 ? And 
if user could not use locale and setlocale commands like on Linux, how can I 
solve my problem with new version of MC ?
 
The mc message:
 
Confirmation
 
Chosen display charset (Settings-Display bits) or source codeset (in mcedit ctrl-t) does not match one set via locale. Set correct codeset manually or press Fix it to set locale default.
 
Or set 'don' task again' and press Skip
 
[ ] don't ask again
 
[ Fix it ]   [ Skip ]
 
BTW in mc there is not any settings with display bits, there is only options menu with display bits. Wrong help dialogs ?
 
Thank you
 
Daniel
 
 
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ls -ld /usr/share/locale/*8859-2 for a list of ISO8859-2 locales. Use 
the complete name, e.g. cs_CZ.ISO8859-2.


To set the above locale in sh and work-alikes use
LC_ALL=cs_CZ.ISO8859-2; export LC_ALL
(the syntax you tried, but your locale spec was wrong, and that's why it 
protested).


To set the above locale in csh and work-alikes use
setenv LC_ALL cs_CZ.ISO8859-2

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Fwd: location of discussion of livefs

2009-12-25 Thread leeoliveshackelford
Greetings FreeBSD enthusiast.  Sorry that I misspelled the issue of interest in 
the subject line.
---BeginMessage---
Good morning, dear FreeBSD enthusiast.  Can you help me to negotiate the 
FreeBSD website?  I am trying to find a general discussion about livefs.   I 
have not been successful at entering the correct sequence of search terms to 
find a general discussion about this topic.  I would like to know what this 
feature does, and the situation in which a user would wish to install it.  My 
question would refer to either release 7 or release 8.  Thanks for any and all 
enlightenment.  Yours truly, Lee S.
---End Message---
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Failed port upgrade

2009-12-25 Thread Rem P Roberti
When running portupgrade the process is choking when it comes to
consolekit.  Here is the error message:

gmake[2]: *** [libgirepository_1_0_la-gfield.lo] Error 1
gmake[2]: Leaving directory
`/usr/tmp/usr/ports/devel/gobject-introspection/work/gobject-introspection-0.6.7/girepository'
gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
gmake[1]: Leaving directory
`/usr/tmp/usr/ports/devel/gobject-introspection/work/gobject-introspection-0.6.7'
gmake: *** [all] Error 2
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/devel/gobject-introspection.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/polkit.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/consolekit.
** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa
/tmp/portupgrade20091225-42364-180m9y8-0 env UPGRADE_TOOL=portupgrade
UPGRADE_PORT=consolekit-0.4.1_1 UPGRADE_PORT_VER=0.4.1_1 make
** Fix the problem and try again.


this obviously involves gobject-introspection and polkit, both of which
refuse to make.  I could find nothing in UPDATING about this.

Rem
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Re: freebsd for children

2009-12-25 Thread Ian Smith
In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 290, Issue 11, Message: 1
On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 19:53:49 +0700 Anh Ky Huynh ky...@viettug.org wrote:
  On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 11:33:14 +
  Anton Shterenlikht me...@bristol.ac.uk wrote:
  
   Can somebody recommend a graphical port which could be used
   to teach kids 6-8 years programming? I know it's a very
   vague question, but what I have in mind (possibly) is
   say an interpreter linked with some graphical enviroment,
   perhaps drawing with commands, or making animations,
   or maybe music?
   
   Something that would make kids or that age curious,
   some programming environment that they can easily
   understand and enjoy. A programming game of sorts?
   
  
  I know the `logo` language (aport lang/ucblogo, lang/klogoturtle, 
  etc) which is used in our educational environment (Vietnamese), but 
  for the older pupils (= 10 years old).
 
  Hope this helps,
  
  Regards,
  
  -- 
  Anh Ky Huynh

Another vote for LOGO.  Michael Grunewald mentions having learned it at 
7, and I knew a couple of then 5-6 year olds who had good fun with it in 
'84 on the first 128K Macintosh, and before that on the Apple II.

LOGO's simplicity is deceptive, to adults anyway, as it teaches quite 
advanced programming concepts straight away; the simple vector graphics 
lets kids make pretty geometrical drawings early on, teaching maths - 
especially trigonometry and dynamics - to kids before they could spell 
either, progressing easily to fairly sophisticated list processing, 
content addressible memory concepts and such if you dig into it a bit.

I'd (still) recommend Seymour Papert's Mindstorms: Children, Computers 
and Powerful Ideas (Harvester Press 1980) to anybody interested in 
introducing children to computer programming, especially using Logo.

KDE3 includes Kturtle, not 'pure' Logo at all but a reasonable interface 
and some decent starter examples to see if kids find it interesting, 
then maybe move onto ucblogo (which I haven't played with, but looks 
fully-featured and well-documented on a quick scan of the pkglist)

cheers, Ian
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Re: clicky driver

2009-12-25 Thread Gary Kline
On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 01:10:45AM +, Chris Whitehouse wrote:
 Gary Kline wrote:
 On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 13:37:13 -0800, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
at first I'm lookings for a cots (commericial, off-the-shelf)
solution.  The XO has stereo speakers and so do the notebooks.  
I am thinking of the 'PC speaker'; something that would sound for
around a 25th/second, very low and with at least some loudness
control.  
 
 Hi Gary,
 
 someone posted recently about the play-string language for /dev/speaker, 
 see speaker(4). Could you do something with that?
 
 btw thanks to whoever posted the play-string code for frere jaques - 
 cracked me up :)
 
 Chris

Wow; the stuff I've never heard about:-)   --I just tried spkrtest
and have no /dev/speaker.   

The short answer [Guess] is no, I dont think so.  If getting the
keys to have an auditory feedback with beeps or shorter clicks were
that easy, it would have been done after 15 years.  Even Linux
lacks this--and I'd bet Minux too.  

What I've got to do is pick up where I kwit ten years ago with the 
kernel driver code and drop the the code to make the speaker-audio
create tiny, brief clicks, preferably low, thunky sounds like ye 
ancient IBM Selectrics.  

gary




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Re: clicky driver

2009-12-25 Thread Gary Kline
On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 02:43:56AM +0100, Roland Smith wrote:
 On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 12:47:49PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
  Nothing tactile, and because neither Linux nor BSD has an audio
  click, not even that.  Sun does have a command line 
 
 It should. The X window system provides a way to get keyclicks with
 xset(1). The command 'xset c 100' whould generate the loudest click possible.
 
 Whether you hear something depends e.g. on how the X server is started, and
 wether the hardware supports it. On my PC I hear the 'bell' from the PC
 speaker, but no clicks.


Blow me away!  Is there a version of xset without X11? Or: how do I
get X up on my server?  I.e.: what do I need to compile it and
launch to get, say, twm up?  I bought the loudest old-fashioned
clicky keyboard (for like $80) and it's beautifully loud.  Tactile
Plus auditory feedback.  It is beyond outstanding.  But to bring
this along with some notebook would not be practical.  I can barely
hear my desktop's beep when I have mail, so can't hear anything
when I do

% xset c 100 .

Besides, in '99 I was able to gen up regular beep, beep, beep
with each keystroke.  --I killed that; after a minute it was
driving me up the bloody wall.  But that is the right approach.

---Nutshell, I would like someone with more kernel background than
I have to help me.  At least with the compile in diver,
rebuild-install kernel script.  Like Polyt noted, it won't be
easy.  But I think it's worth a couple weekends' of experimenting.

What kind of desktop computer do you have?

gary



 
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portaudit php vulnerabilities

2009-12-25 Thread Aleksandr Miroslav
For the past week or so, portaudit has been warning me that the
installed version of php on my system (php5-5.2.11_1) has known
vulnerabilties. Fair enough. However, I've not seen a fix in the ports
tree since then. Is my only option to deinstall php until this gets
fixed?
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Re: Firefox 3.5 and Epiphany crashing since the GNOME 2.28 update

2009-12-25 Thread Neil Short
I am suddenly running into the same problem. I was running Firefox 2.0... and 
when I right-clicked an image and selected save as the program 
segment-faulted. I upgraded to firefox-3.0.16_1,1. Same issue. I'm guessing 
it's related to some other port that got updated along the way.

Data:
FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE
Running blackbox-0.70.1_2
==

 What did you do? the man holding the flashlight asked.

 I put down a spider, he said, wondering why the man didn't see; in the beam 
of yellow light the spider bloated up larger than life. So it could get away.


  

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Re: portaudit php vulnerabilities

2009-12-25 Thread Nerius Landys
 For the past week or so, portaudit has been warning me that the
 installed version of php on my system (php5-5.2.11_1) has known
 vulnerabilties. Fair enough. However, I've not seen a fix in the ports
 tree since then. Is my only option to deinstall php until this gets
 fixed?

Hi.  I've been experiencing the same problem.  Apparently 5.2.12 is
not in the ports yet, but probably will be soon.

If found it necessary to do some port-related commands even though
5.2.11 is currently blacklisted by portaudit.  You can use
DISABLE_VULNERABILITIES in your commands as outlined here until there
is an updated port:

http://www.ivorde.ro/FreeBSD_force_port_installation_upgrade_even_though_portaudit_reports_vulnerability_for_it-64.html
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