Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

2010-11-20 Thread Da Rock

On 11/14/10 05:22, Chad Perrin wrote:

On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 12:36:29PM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote:
   

On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 07:08:51PM -0500, Chris Brennan wrote:
 

Did you know...
If you play a Windows 2000 CD backwards, you hear satanic messages,
but what's worse is when you play it forward
   

I like this one - though you could update if from W 2000 to a more
current one.
 

I vote Vista.

   
I vote Winblow$ 7. The bloody cloud for photos ad on tv gives me the 
shits no end. 1) As if you'd need more than one computer to edit a 
photo, and 2) as if you could solve anything with M$ crap in the first 
place...


And the missus doesn't like the idea of an unnatural photo either, so 
that'd be 2 votes


Oh and thank you! Finally I have a FreeBSD media system! Hoorah! Now to 
move forward finally...


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Fwd: ORBit not upgrading

2010-11-20 Thread Da Rock
Ok. So this is not just an upgrade issue, I can't build it on a fresh 
install on another m/c either. Any fixes/workarounds? Is anyone aware of 
this issue?


I'm afraid I'm not experienced enough to work this out- unless someone 
can explain what the check is?


Cheers

 Original Message 
Subject:ORBit not upgrading
Date:   Wed, 10 Nov 2010 15:09:04 +1100
From:   freebsd-questi...@herveybayaustralia.com.au
Reply-To:   freebsd-questi...@herveybayaustralia.com.au
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org




I have a wee problem... :) I've been naughty because I've been
working on other things and I was going to simply rebuild this m/c
when I got the chance anyway. Unfortunately I've run into a problem
where I need to upgrade because I've found a bug in php 5.3.2 which is
killing me. So I've run an upgrade at a rather late date, and
alswell... except ORBit is not behaving.
I've checked UPDATING and looked into the Makefiles, but for the life
of me I can't fathom what the hell is going on. It is running thru the
checks and stalls completely here:
...

checking for a BSD compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c -o root
-g wheel
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking whether gmake sets ${MAKE}... yes
checking for working aclocal... found
checking for working autoconf... found
checking for working automake... found
checking for working autoheader... found
checking for working makeinfo... found
checking for gcc... cc
checking for C compiler default output... a.out
checking whether the C compiler works... yes
checking whether we are cross compiling... no
checking for executable suffix...
checking for object suffix... o
checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes
checking whether cc accepts -g... yes
checking for strerror in -lcposix... no
checking for gcc... (cached) cc
checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... (cached) yes
checking whether cc accepts -g... (cached) yes
checking how to run the C preprocessor... cpp
checking if C preprocessor likes IDL... yes
checking if C preprocessor can read from stdin... yes
checking how to ignore standard include path...
Huh? Any reason it'd be looking for a non standard include path?
Whats the hold up?
Now this is ORBit-0.5.17_5, and I don't think a manual reinstall
would make much difference. But WTF? Any Ideas?
As for the php error: anybody have trouble with preg_match and the
subject string being a variable? If I manually put the contents in as
the subject it works, but it won't read out of the variable. I'm
actually exec something and the variable holds the output (and yes, it
does work, and the variable holds the info right- just ran a print on
the variable) but the stupid thing is sending me bald and I can't
register a bug before an upgrade.
Cheers

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Re: openssl version - how to verify

2010-11-20 Thread RW
On Sat, 20 Nov 2010 00:08:35 -0500
Eitan Adler li...@eitanadler.com wrote:

 On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net
 wrote:
  On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 15:08:26 -0600
  Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com articulated:
 
  While I agree with your point in this context, the statement The
  number of _UNDISCOVERED_ bugs, on the other hand, is an infinite
  one. is false.
 
  http://www.unsw.edu.au/news/pad/articles/2009/sep/microkernel_breakthrough.html
 
  It was later discovered that the software used to certify the kernel
  100% bug-free was not itself bug-free thereby nullifying results.
 
 The paper  Diverse Double-Compiling by David A Wheeler is relevant
 although not strictly the same topic. It could be used to avoid this
 type of issue.

Even if it works it's only proving that at some level of abstraction
the implementation matches a formal specification, there's still scope
for higher and lower level bugs. 

But just because something is unknown doesn't mean it's infinite.


 
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Re: adding/updationg a Port

2010-11-20 Thread Fbsd8

Chip Camden wrote:

Quoth Nicolas de Bari Embriz Garcia Rojas on Wednesday, 17 November 2010:

Hi,  On November 6,  I submitted a New port:
http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/151988 so far the
submissions seems to be on standby.

My question is, if for adding a port takes a 'couple of months' how
much does it take for updating current existing ports ?

regards.




It depends on the nature and extent of the update.  I submitted an update
to a port that I maintain, and it was committed in under 21 minutes.
Conversely, I submitted a patch to one of the general port Makefiles, and that
took about 45 days.  Even though it was a very small patch, I presume the
committees were more cautious with a change that could affect a lot of
users.


Well this port was submitted July 20 2010.
Coming up on 4 mounts of waiting for this simple script port to be added to
the ports system.
Is this long delay normal?
Please tell me what other actions I may need to do to get this port added?

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=148777





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Re: adding/updationg a Port

2010-11-20 Thread Chris Rees
On 20 November 2010 13:57, Fbsd8 fb...@a1poweruser.com wrote:
 Chip Camden wrote:
 Well this port was submitted July 20 2010.
 Coming up on 4 mounts of waiting for this simple script port to be added to
 the ports system.
 Is this long delay normal?
 Please tell me what other actions I may need to do to get this port added?

 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=148777


I've posted a followup to the bug report.

Chris
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FBSD 8 php 52 extensions dependency on X11 ???

2010-11-20 Thread Alejandro Imass
Hi,

Whilst installing some (many) of the php 52 extensions in a jail I
suddenly realized I was about to install X11 and a whole bunch of x11
related deps.
Can some kind soul explain to me which php 52 extension requires X11
??? Should it not say it EXPLICITLY??? !!!

FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE
port: /usr/ports/lang/php52-extensions

Many thanks in advance,

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FBSD 8 php 52 extensions dependency on X11 ???

2010-11-20 Thread Alejandro Imass
Hi,

Whilst installing some (many) of the php 52 extensions in a jail I
suddenly realized I was about to install X11 and a whole bunch of x11
related deps.
Would some kind soul explain to me which php 52 extension requires X11
??? Should it not say it EXPLICITLY??? !!!

FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE
port: /usr/ports/lang/php52-extensions

These are all the possible extension in this port:

BCMATH BZ2 CALENDAR CTYPE CURL DBA DBASE DOM EXIF FILEINFO FILTER
FRIBIDI FTP GD GETTEXT GMP HASH ICONV IMAP INTERBASE JSON LDAP
MBSTRING MCRYPT MHASH MING MSSQL MYSQL MYSQLI NCURSES  ODBC OPENSSL
PCNTL PCRE PDF PDO PDO_SQLITE PGSQL POSIX PSPELL READLINE RECODE
SESSION SHMOP SIMPLEXML SNMP SOAP SOCKETS SPL SQLITE SYBASE_CT SYSVMSG
SYSVSEM SYSVSHM TIDY TOKENIZER WDDX XML XMLREADER XMLRPC XMLWRITER XSL
YAZ ZIP ZLIB

Empirically I cant'see the connection but the depends list does. At
first just by looking at the depends list it seems that only some X11
libs are needed but the you see that it's actually installing
xorg-vfbserver, a dependency of Xvfb in turn a dependency of
accessibility/accerciser which seems to be a dependency of the ming
flash extension. This I found just by chance, but IMHO if this is the
case it should be CLEARLY noted in the ming extension comment!!!

Also, is there another command or make option that would have warned
me of the Xvfb or xorg dependencies??

# make all-depends-list

/usr/ports/lang/php52
/usr/ports/math/php52-bcmath
/usr/ports/archivers/php52-bz2
/usr/ports/misc/php52-calendar
/usr/ports/textproc/php52-ctype
/usr/ports/ftp/php52-curl
/usr/ports/databases/php52-dba
/usr/ports/databases/php52-dbase
/usr/ports/textproc/php52-dom
/usr/ports/graphics/php52-exif
/usr/ports/sysutils/pecl-fileinfo
/usr/ports/security/php52-filter
/usr/ports/converters/pecl-fribidi
/usr/ports/ftp/php52-ftp
/usr/ports/graphics/php52-gd
/usr/ports/devel/php52-gettext
/usr/ports/math/php52-gmp
/usr/ports/security/php52-hash
/usr/ports/converters/php52-iconv
/usr/ports/mail/php52-imap
/usr/ports/devel/php52-json
/usr/ports/converters/php52-mbstring
/usr/ports/security/php52-mcrypt
/usr/ports/security/php52-mhash
/usr/ports/
/usr/ports/databases/php52-mysql
/usr/ports/security/php52-openssl
/usr/ports/devel/php52-pcre
/usr/ports/print/pecl-pdflib
/usr/ports/databases/php52-pdo
/usr/ports/databases/php52-pdo_sqlite
/usr/ports/databases/php52-pgsql
/usr/ports/sysutils/php52-posix
/usr/ports/textproc/php52-pspell
/usr/ports/www/php52-session
/usr/ports/textproc/php52-simplexml
/usr/ports/net/php52-soap
/usr/ports/net/php52-sockets
/usr/ports/devel/php52-spl
/usr/ports/databases/php52-sqlite
/usr/ports/devel/php52-sysvmsg
/usr/ports/devel/php52-sysvsem
/usr/ports/devel/php52-sysvshm
/usr/ports/www/php52-tidy
/usr/ports/devel/php52-tokenizer
/usr/ports/textproc/php52-wddx
/usr/ports/textproc/php52-xml
/usr/ports/textproc/php52-xmlreader
/usr/ports/net/php52-xmlrpc
/usr/ports/textproc/php52-xmlwriter
/usr/ports/textproc/php52-xsl
/usr/ports/archivers/php52-zip
/usr/ports/archivers/php52-zlib
/usr/ports/www/apache22
/usr/ports/devel/autoconf262
/usr/ports/devel/pkg-config
/usr/ports/textproc/libxml2
/usr/ports/ftp/curl
/usr/ports/databases/db42
/usr/ports/converters/fribidi
/usr/ports/x11/libXpm
/usr/ports/print/freetype2
/usr/ports/graphics/png
/usr/ports/graphics/jpeg
/usr/ports/devel/t1lib
/usr/ports/devel/gettext
/usr/ports/math/gmp
/usr/ports/converters/libiconv
/usr/ports/mail/cclient
/usr/ports/security/libmcrypt
/usr/ports/devel/libltdl22
/usr/ports/security/mhash
/usr/ports/databases/mysql51-client
/usr/ports/devel/pcre
/usr/ports/print/pdflib
/usr/ports/databases/postgresql82-client
/usr/ports/textproc/aspell
/usr/ports/www/tidy-lib
/usr/ports/textproc/libxslt
/usr/ports/lang/perl5.8
/usr/ports/devel/libtool22
/usr/ports/textproc/expat2
/usr/ports/devel/apr1
/usr/ports/devel/m4
/usr/ports/misc/help2man
/usr/ports/devel/gmake
/usr/ports/devel/autoconf-wrapper
/usr/ports/security/ca_root_nss
/usr/ports/x11/xextproto
/usr/ports/x11/xproto
/usr/ports/x11/libX11
/usr/ports/x11/libXext
/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/libXt
/usr/ports/archivers/xz
/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/libXaw
/usr/ports/devel/automake15
/usr/ports/security/libgcrypt
/usr/ports/lang/python26
/usr/ports/devel/automake19
/usr/ports/databases/gdbm
/usr/ports/devel/p5-Locale-gettext
/usr/ports/x11/libxcb
/usr/ports/devel/xorg-macros
/usr/ports/x11/bigreqsproto
/usr/ports/x11/xcmiscproto
/usr/ports/x11/xtrans
/usr/ports/x11/kbproto
/usr/ports/x11/inputproto
/usr/ports/x11-fonts/xf86bigfontproto
/usr/ports/x11/libXau
/usr/ports/x11/libXdmcp
/usr/ports/devel/automake110
/usr/ports/x11/libSM
/usr/ports/x11/printproto
/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/libXmu
/usr/ports/x11/libXp
/usr/ports/devel/automake-wrapper
/usr/ports/security/libgpg-error
/usr/ports/devel/libcheck
/usr/ports/x11/xcb-proto
/usr/ports/devel/libpthread-stubs
/usr/ports/x11/libICE


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Re: openssl version - how to verify

2010-11-20 Thread Chris Rees
On 19 November 2010 22:22, Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net wrote:
 On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 15:53:11 -0600
 Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com articulated:

 On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net
 wrote:

  On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 15:08:26 -0600
  Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com articulated:
 
   While I agree with your point in this context, the statement The
   number of _UNDISCOVERED_ bugs, on the other hand, is an infinite
   one. is false.
  
  http://www.unsw.edu.au/news/pad/articles/2009/sep/microkernel_breakthrough.html
 
  It was later discovered that the software used to certify the kernel
  100% bug-free was not itself bug-free thereby nullifying results.
 
 Link or another Jerry Fact

 I would have thought that was obvious. Although, it does remind me of
 the old myth that the bumblebee should not be able to fly
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bumblebee.

 There's a sucker born every minute is a phrase often credited to P.
 T. Barnum, and quite often true.

No, it's not 'obvious', just like many other things.

People believed Aristotle's assurances about the rate of things
falling for nearly 2000 years until Galileo and Newton pointed out
'obvious' flaws in his method.

Again, link?

Chris
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Re: openssl version - how to verify

2010-11-20 Thread Jerry
On Sat, 20 Nov 2010 16:56:05 +
Chris Rees utis...@gmail.com articulated:

While I agree with your point in this context, the statement
The number of _UNDISCOVERED_ bugs, on the other hand, is an
infinite one. is false.
   
   http://www.unsw.edu.au/news/pad/articles/2009/sep/microkernel_breakthrough.html
 
 People believed Aristotle's assurances about the rate of things
 falling for nearly 2000 years until Galileo and Newton pointed out
 'obvious' flaws in his method.

Which is precisely my point in regards to the link shown above.

-- 
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freebsd.u...@seibercom.net

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Re: Thanks.

2010-11-20 Thread Kevin Kinsey

Ryan Coleman wrote:

On Nov 18, 2010, at 9:14 AM, Alejandro Imass wrote:


On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Chris Brennan xa...@xaerolimit.net wrote:

On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 16:25:31 +0330, Mohsen Mostafa Jokar 
mohsenjo...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello.


Didn't Mohsen Mostafar Jokar post this same question last week?

Yes. This second one was an apparent follow-up, hopefully he will STFW
and RTFM before posting again ;-)


Assuming he knows what STFW and RTFM mean. :)


Well, shame on you guys. ;-)  After all, this is a *help list*, right?

http://www.google.com/search?q=define:STFW

   :-D

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Softupdates And Samba

2010-11-20 Thread Tim Daneliuk
I installed another SATA drive on a FreeBSD 8.1-STABLE box here last night.
After the disk prep, I mounted it and then shared the whole drive via Samba.

This morning when I came in, the machine had horked all over itself and
I saw this in the log after the reboot:

Nov 20 01:06:59 ozzie kernel: ad6: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA48 retrying (1 retry 
left) LBA=34066054
3
Nov 20 01:06:59 ozzie kernel: ad6: FAILURE - WRITE_DMA48 
status=51READY,DSC,ERROR error=10
NID_NOT_FOUND LBA=340660543
Nov 20 01:06:59 ozzie kernel: g_vfs_done():ad6s1d[WRITE(offset=174418165760, 
length=131072)]e
rror = 5
Nov 20 02:15:07 ozzie kernel: ad6: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA48 retrying (1 retry 
left) LBA=14580695
35
Nov 20 02:15:07 ozzie kernel: ad6: FAILURE - WRITE_DMA48 
status=51READY,DSC,ERROR error=10
NID_NOT_FOUND LBA=1458069535
Nov 20 02:15:07 ozzie kernel: g_vfs_done():ad6s1d[WRITE(offset=746531569664, 
length=131072)]e
rror = 5


I reformatted and remounted the drive and accidentally forgot to enable
softupdates.  It seems to now be working fine.

Is there a known interaction with softupdates and Samba such that I should
not use them in this case, or could this just have been a loose cable
or something?  The drive is pretty new ( 6mo) and it's never been a
problem when I used it on an NTFS system previously.

TIA,
-- 

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Re: FBSD 8 php 52 extensions dependency on X11 ???

2010-11-20 Thread Amitabh Kant
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 10:18 PM, Alejandro Imass a...@p2ee.org wrote:

 Hi,

 Whilst installing some (many) of the php 52 extensions in a jail I
 suddenly realized I was about to install X11 and a whole bunch of x11
 related deps.
 Would some kind soul explain to me which php 52 extension requires X11
 ??? Should it not say it EXPLICITLY??? !!!

 FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE
 port: /usr/ports/lang/php52-extensions

 These are all the possible extension in this port:

 BCMATH BZ2 CALENDAR CTYPE CURL DBA DBASE DOM EXIF FILEINFO FILTER
 FRIBIDI FTP GD GETTEXT GMP HASH ICONV IMAP INTERBASE JSON LDAP
 MBSTRING MCRYPT MHASH MING MSSQL MYSQL MYSQLI NCURSES  ODBC OPENSSL
 PCNTL PCRE PDF PDO PDO_SQLITE PGSQL POSIX PSPELL READLINE RECODE
 SESSION SHMOP SIMPLEXML SNMP SOAP SOCKETS SPL SQLITE SYBASE_CT SYSVMSG
 SYSVSEM SYSVSHM TIDY TOKENIZER WDDX XML XMLREADER XMLRPC XMLWRITER XSL
 YAZ ZIP ZLIB

 Empirically I cant'see the connection but the depends list does. At
 first just by looking at the depends list it seems that only some X11
 libs are needed but the you see that it's actually installing
 xorg-vfbserver, a dependency of Xvfb in turn a dependency of
 accessibility/accerciser which seems to be a dependency of the ming
 flash extension. This I found just by chance, but IMHO if this is the
 case it should be CLEARLY noted in the ming extension comment!!!

 Also, is there another command or make option that would have warned
 me of the Xvfb or xorg dependencies??

 Many thanks in advance,

 --
 Alejandro Imass


Either use WITHOUT_X11=yes in your make line, or have WITHOUT_X11=yes in
your /etc/make.conf file beofre you run the make command. Can't help you
with generating correct dependency list though.

Regards

Amitabh Kant
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kernel log message

2010-11-20 Thread Hasse Hansson
Hello all

 

Anyone able to explain the kernelmessage I received after running the
nightly periodic ? Anything I should worry about ?
I belive I was dumping a  large MySql database at the time it happened. 

 

odin# uname -a

FreeBSD odin.thorshammare.org 8.1-STABLE FreeBSD 8.1-STABLE #0: Tue Sep  7
18:47:41 CEST 2010 r...@odin.thorshammare.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ODIN
i386

 

odin.thorshammare.org kernel log messages:

+++ /tmp/security.qzjwQDiS  2010-11-19 03:06:22.0 +0100

+Timecounter TSC frequency 1100020331 Hz quality 800

 

Best Regards
Hasse Hansson

 

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Re: openssl version - how to verify

2010-11-20 Thread Chris Rees
On 20 November 2010 17:34, Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net wrote:
 On Sat, 20 Nov 2010 16:56:05 +
 Chris Rees utis...@gmail.com articulated:

While I agree with your point in this context, the statement
The number of _UNDISCOVERED_ bugs, on the other hand, is an
infinite one. is false.
   
   http://www.unsw.edu.au/news/pad/articles/2009/sep/microkernel_breakthrough.html

 People believed Aristotle's assurances about the rate of things
 falling for nearly 2000 years until Galileo and Newton pointed out
 'obvious' flaws in his method.

 Which is precisely my point in regards to the link shown above.


Er, no.

YOU have the burden of proof in your assertion, 'obvious' is not good
enough. The link above refers to a study; if you think there's been a
bug then show us.

Chris
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Re: Softupdates And Samba

2010-11-20 Thread Michael Powell
Tim Daneliuk wrote:

 I installed another SATA drive on a FreeBSD 8.1-STABLE box here last
 night. After the disk prep, I mounted it and then shared the whole drive
 via Samba.
 
 This morning when I came in, the machine had horked all over itself and
 I saw this in the log after the reboot:
 
 Nov 20 01:06:59 ozzie kernel: ad6: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA48 retrying (1 retry
 left) LBA=34066054 3
 Nov 20 01:06:59 ozzie kernel: ad6: FAILURE - WRITE_DMA48
 status=51READY,DSC,ERROR error=10 NID_NOT_FOUND LBA=340660543
 Nov 20 01:06:59 ozzie kernel:
 g_vfs_done():ad6s1d[WRITE(offset=174418165760, length=131072)]e rror = 5
 Nov 20 02:15:07 ozzie kernel: ad6: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA48 retrying (1 retry
 left) LBA=14580695 35
 Nov 20 02:15:07 ozzie kernel: ad6: FAILURE - WRITE_DMA48
 status=51READY,DSC,ERROR error=10 NID_NOT_FOUND LBA=1458069535
 Nov 20 02:15:07 ozzie kernel:
 g_vfs_done():ad6s1d[WRITE(offset=746531569664, length=131072)]e rror = 5
 
 
 I reformatted and remounted the drive and accidentally forgot to enable
 softupdates.  It seems to now be working fine.
 
 Is there a known interaction with softupdates and Samba such that I should
 not use them in this case, or could this just have been a loose cable
 or something?  The drive is pretty new ( 6mo) and it's never been a
 problem when I used it on an NTFS system previously.
 
 TIA,

I can't speak to -Stable, as I bounce from -Release to -Release. But I have 
used Samba with softupdates for years and never experienced any problem 
which might be related to such a combination.

While it exists the possibility of flaky controller/driver bug I would look 
towards a hardware situation first. First thing I'd do is get a bootable CD 
with the drive manufacturer's diagnostics on it. Western Digital has a 
bootable .iso you can download if it happens to be a WD. Do the destructive 
write all zeros comprehensive test and look for any errors, particularly 
surface defects. I do this with any used drive before using it again.

Oh yeah - swap in a new cable first. Plug it in and out several times to 
scratch through any thin film layer of corrosion which may have formed on 
the copper.

RAID controller and a so-called Green drive? They are very prone to 
falling offline, as per:

http://wdc.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/wdc.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=1397

Most of the time you can get away with running a desktop drive on a RAID 
controller and not have problems, but the potential exists. In lieu of this, 
you could also install smartmontools and look at the drive with various 
smartctl tests. I take numbers from smart testing with a grain of salt. I 
generally see them as an additional data point rather than trying to split 
hairs into a conclusion. The thing you would be trying to discern here is if 
the bad sector remap area has filled. When this happens the drive can no 
longer hide bad sectors from the OS.

I'd bet it's something simple like a bad cable. Also recall the first rule 
of maintenance: If it works, don't Fix It!  :-)

-Mike


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Fwd: FBSD 8 php 52 extensions dependency on X11 ???

2010-11-20 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Amitabh Kant amitabhk...@gmail.com wrote:


 On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 10:18 PM, Alejandro Imass a...@p2ee.org wrote:

 Hi,

 Whilst installing some (many) of the php 52 extensions in a jail I
 suddenly realized I was about to install X11 and a whole bunch of x11
 related deps.
 Would some kind soul explain to me which php 52 extension requires X11
 ??? Should it not say it EXPLICITLY??? !!!

[...]

 Also, is there another command or make option that would have warned
 me of the Xvfb or xorg dependencies??
 Many thanks in advance,

 --
 Alejandro Imass

 Either use WITHOUT_X11=yes in your make line, or have WITHOUT_X11=yes in
 your /etc/make.conf file beofre you run the make command. Can't help you
 with generating correct dependency list though.


Thanks for the tip. The ming extension was in fact the culprit. Now
I'm guessing there must be a way to recursively analyze dependencies!

Anyway, IMHO the comment on the ming module should state clearly that
it requires a complete X server. Granted though, I shouldn't have
selected that extension anyway, I did by mistake, so maybe if I knew
what it was it would have been obvious, who knows...
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Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

2010-11-20 Thread Andrew Falanga
2010/11/11 José Silveira jmlsilve...@gmail.com

 Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

 For me it is nonsense... It makes Christians, Jwishes and Muslins run away!


Jose,

So many have replied already and I truthfully haven't read each post.  I did
want to say something about this though since I am a Christian.  Early on I
was a little troubled.  However, this was due, not to some tennent of the
faith but rather to my ignorance of my own faith and immaturity.  The
reality is, that mascot for FreeBSD has nothing whatsoever to do with Satan.

Andy
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a gmirror disappears after adding gjournals to its partitions

2010-11-20 Thread perryh
Is there something wrong with this sequence, in Fixit:

* create a mirror
* partition it with disklabel
* create journals on the partitions
* install
* reboot?

After rebooting, the mirror had disappeared and the journals
seemed to exist directly on partitions of the mirror's provider
rather than on the mirror itself.

Details:

Using Fixit# from the 8.1-RELEASE memstick I defined a gmirror
(initially containing only one provider; the other to be added
later), partitioned it using disklabel, added a journal to each
of the partitions, ran newfs -J on them, and installed FreeBSD
using http://wiki.freebsd.org/RootOnZFS/GPTZFSBoot/Mirror as a
guide (with a few differences due to this installation being
UFS rather than ZFS).

In Fixit the /dev tree contained entries for both the mirror and
the journal devices, but when I rebooted the mirror did not show
up -- even though geom_mirror.ko was loaded.

What would cause this sort of mixup, and how do I fix it?
Is any more info needed?

 contents of /dev/mirror before creating the journals
Fixit# ls -la /dev/mirror
total 1
dr-xr-xr-x  2 root  0  512 Nov 14 00:17 .
dr-xr-xr-x  9 root  0  512 Nov 14 00:11 ..
crw-r-  1 root  operator0,  80 Nov 14 00:36 gm0
crw-r-  1 root  operator0, 126 Nov 14 00:36 gm0a
crw-r-  1 root  operator0, 128 Nov 14 00:36 gm0d
crw-r-  1 root  operator0, 129 Nov 14 00:36 gm0e

 corresponding disklabel report
Fixit# disklabel /dev/mirror/gm0
# /dev/mirror/gm0:
8 partitions:
#size   offsetfstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
  a:  8388608   164.2BSD 1024  819216
  c: 6199075170unused0 0
  d: 25165824  83886244.2BSD0 0 0
  e: 586353069 335544484.2BSD0 0 0

 journal creation, with resulting dmesg reports
Fixit# gjournal label -s 2G /dev/mirror/gm0a
GEOM_JOURNAL: Journal 1098378706: mirror/gm0a contains data.
GEOM_JOURNAL: Journal 1098378706: mirror/gm0a contains journal.
GEOM_JOURNAL: Journal mirror/gm0a clean.
Fixit# gjournal label -s 2G /dev/mirror/gm0d
GEOM_JOURNAL: Journal 3795372090: mirror/gm0d contains data.
GEOM_JOURNAL: Journal 3795372090: mirror/gm0d contains journal.
GEOM_JOURNAL: Journal mirror/gm0d clean.
Fixit# gjournal label -s 2G /dev/mirror/gm0e
GEOM_JOURNAL: Journal 2063379813: mirror/gm0e contains data.
GEOM_JOURNAL: Journal 2063379813: mirror/gm0e contains journal.
GEOM_JOURNAL: Journal mirror/gm0e clean.

 contents of /dev/mirror after creating the journals
Fixit# ls -la /dev/mirror
total 1
dr-xr-xr-x  2 root  0  512 Nov 14 00:17 ./
dr-xr-xr-x  9 root  0  512 Nov 14 00:11 ../
crw-r-  1 root  operator0,  80 Nov 14 02:01 gm0
crw-r-  1 root  operator0,  78 Nov 14 02:06 gm0a
crw-r-  1 root  operator0, 126 Nov 14 02:06 gm0a.journal
crw-r-  1 root  operator0, 125 Nov 14 02:07 gm0d
crw-r-  1 root  operator0, 128 Nov 14 02:07 gm0d.journal
crw-r-  1 root  operator0, 130 Nov 14 02:07 gm0e
crw-r-  1 root  operator0, 129 Nov 14 02:07 gm0e.journal

 newfs commands
Fixit# newfs -J /dev/mirror/gm0a.journal
Fixit# newfs -J /dev/mirror/gm0d.journal
Fixit# newfs -J /dev/mirror/gm0e.journal

 mount the resulting filesystems (and one ordinary partition,
 neither mirrored nor journalled, to be used as /tmp -- I figure
 /tmp is expendable), resulting in this FS configuration
Fixit# mount
/dev/md0 on / (ufs, local)
devfs on /dev (devfs, local, multilabel)
/dev/da1a on /dist (ufs, local, read-only)
/dev/mirror/gm0a.journal on /mnt (ufs, local, gjournal)
/dev/ad8s2d on /mnt/tmp (ufs, local)
/dev/mirror/gm0d.journal on /mnt/var (ufs, local, gjournal)
/dev/mirror/gm0e.journal on /mnt/usr (ufs, local, gjournal)

 install per http://wiki.freebsd.org/RootOnZFS/GPTZFSBoot/Mirror,
 no detailed log kept

 manually-created config files, while still in chroot after install
Fixit# cat /boot/loader.conf
geom_mirror_load=YES
geom_journal_load=YES

vfs.root.mountfrom=ufs:/dev/mirror/gm0a.journal
vfs.root.mountfrom.options=rw

Fixit# cat /etc/fstab
/dev/mirror/gm0a.journal /  ufs rw  0 1
/dev/ad0s2b  none   swapsw  0 0
/dev/ad8s2b  none   swapsw  0 0
/dev/ad8s2d  /tmp   ufs rw  0 2
/dev/mirror/gm0d.journal /var   ufs rw  0 3
/dev/mirror/gm0e.journal /usr   ufs rw  0 4
/dev/da1a/dist  ufs ro  0 0
devfs/dev   devfs   multilabel  0 0

 output from kldstat, after booting the newly-installed system --
 and manually mounting the root FS -- showing that geom_mirror.ko
 did get loaded.
Id Refs AddressSize Name
 16 0xc040 bb5504   kernel
 21 0xc0fb6000 14540geom_journal.ko
 31 0xc0fcb000 16ed4geom_mirror.ko

 dmesg