Re: Archiving directories / zip format

[Zbigniew Szalbot]

Hello,

On 6 December 2010 08:45, Polytropon  wrote:
> You can install the "zip" program:
>
>        # pkg_add -r zip
>
> and then use it recursively, e. g.
>
>        % zip -r9 stuff.zip dir1 dir2 dir3 fileX fileY
>
> If there is no need for compression, change 9 to 0. Also
> see "man zip" for details.

Great! Thanks so much! I occasionally need to extract a few files from
the archive so this is very useful. Thank you!

All the best from Poland.

Zbigniew Szalbot
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Re: Archiving directories / zip format

[andrew clarke]

On Mon 2010-12-06 08:17:17 UTC+0100, Zbigniew Szalbot (zszal...@gmail.com) 
wrote:

> From time to time I want to archive a quite a few directories to
> download them conveniently. I have been using tar to do it, endingin
> up with a tar.gz file. But the problem with it is that I do not have a
> unix machine at home so if I want to extract something or unpack the
> content, there is no easy way to do that. My question basically is if
> there is a way to end up with a zip file?

As somebody else already mentioned there is zip/unzip in the FreeBSD
Ports tree.

There's also a BSD port of rar/unrar if you'd like to use the .rar
format instead of .zip.

> Or are there any windows tools to unzip and/or extract content from
> tar.gz files?

In Windows I use 7-Zip.  It's open source and supports .tar.gz,
.tar.xz, .zip, .rar and a number of other archive formats.

http://www.7-zip.org/

On the BSD side you can also use p7zip to create .7z archives that can
be opened with 7-Zip.
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Re: ZFS

[Elias Chrysocheris]

On Monday 06 of December 2010 02:38:12 Gabor Illo wrote:
> 2010/12/6 Elias Chrysocheris :
> > Sorry, my mistake... I used cd without the / when I was in the dist
> > directory... So I cannot see why it does not work for you... What disk
> > are you trying to use? Is it the official DVD?
> > 
> > Regards
> > Elias
> 
> I use livefs sysinstall FIXME option (defined wiki 1.2 step), fixme
> shell only works livefs CD.

Well.. I thing that in livefs cd there are no installation packages of the 
release. I thing it contains only the necessary software for the livefs 
system. It is better to use the installation DVD that also contains the livefs 
and Fixme console and all the necessary system's packages.

That will do. I don't know if the installation CD also works, but the DVD is 
OK. I've done it many times before...

Regards,
Elias
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Re: Archiving directories / zip format

[Paul Wootton]

 On 12/06/10 08:33, andrew clarke wrote:

In Windows I use 7-Zip. It's open source and supports .tar.gz,
.tar.xz, .zip, .rar and a number of other archive formats.

http://www.7-zip.org/


For Windows, I use use WinRAR for .tar and .tar.gz files

Paul
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Re: Archiving directories / zip format

[Giorgos Keramidas]

On Mon, 6 Dec 2010 08:17:17 +0100, Zbigniew Szalbot  wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> From time to time I want to archive a quite a few directories to download
> them conveniently. I have been using tar to do it, endingin up with a
> tar.gz file. But the problem with it is that I do not have a unix machine
> at home so if I want to extract something or unpack the content, there is
> no easy way to do that. My question basically is if there is a way to end
> up with a zip file? Or are there any windows tools to unzip and/or
> extract content from tar.gz files?

You can use the archivers/zip port, which installs a zip(1) utility with a
command-line syntax vaguely similar to the pkzip/pkunzip tools from old DOS
days.

Then again you can keep using tar.gz or tar.bz2 archivers, like you do now.
WinZip and WinRar tools can deal quite fine with these two compression
formats, Linux machines also have tar/gzip/bzip2 and the rest of the
platforms out there (e.g. MacOS) may have tools similar to WinZip / WinRar.

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Installer program for FreeBSD-9.0?

[Thomas Mueller]

Is there any intent to modify, hopefully improve, the installer program 
(sysinstall) for FreeBSD-9.0?

I noticed something on the freebsd-questions emailing list about a 
pc-sysinstall, but downloaded a snapshot .iso of CURRENT-9.0 mainly to see what 
was there, not planning to install; am already running 8.1-RELEASE.

Installer looked the same as for recent releases through 8.1; installation sets 
were broken into base.aa, base.ab, etc. (floppy-sized or a little less), rather 
than the easier-to-handle base.tbz (or .tgz), etc.  Man page for sysinstall 
(FreeBSD 8.1) says it is overdue for end of life.  Options are confusing.  What 
is a "standard installation"?  How many users are going to be able to get 
together enough good floppies to install that way?

Tom
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Re: -- Could NOT find XMMS: the nowplaying dataengine will NOT support XMMS 1.x

[Steven Friedrich]

On Sunday 05 December 2010 11:51:02 pm Chris Brennan wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 11:46 PM, Steven Friedrich 
wrote:
> > Build of kdebase4-workspace claims:
> > 
> > -- Could NOT find XMMS: the nowplaying dataengine will NOT support XMMS
> > 1.x
> > 
> > I have the xmms port installed and I rebuilt kdelibs.
> > 
> > Why won't it see it?
> 
> xmms or xmms2? IIRC, xmms was discontinued a long time ago lol

I'm using:
xmms-1.2.11_11  X Multimedia System -- An audio player with Winamp GUI

This is xmms 1.x, right?  It appears to work.

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Re: Installer program for FreeBSD-9.0?

[Bruce Cran]

On Mon, 06 Dec 2010 10:09:00 +
"Thomas Mueller"  wrote:

> Is there any intent to modify, hopefully improve, the installer
> program (sysinstall) for FreeBSD-9.0?

There's a plan to replace sysinstall with pc-sysinstall, the
PCBSD installer in 9.0. Currently the backend has been committed and
people are working on a web interface frontend to allow people to do
installations via a web browser.

Meanwhile I'm hoping to find some time to improve sysinstall now that
we don't support installation from floppies: I know there are some big
improvements that can be made while not taking on the work of a complete
rewrite.

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Re: can't mount root during freebsd-update 7.0 -> 8.1 on amd64

[Andrey V. Elsukov]

On 06.12.2010 3:11, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
>> GEOM_PART (gpart) is a new GEOM partition class (slicer) and
>> utility that rolls up support for many partitioning formats
>> (MBR, BSD, GPT etc.) into a single code base.
>> ...
>> NOTE: Some old utilities like bsdlabel may not work if the kernel
>> doesn't include GEOM_BSD and other old slicer classes. In other
>> words, bsdlabel et al don't work with GEOM_PART.
> 
> Does this mean that, in 8.1-RELEASE, bsdlabel/disklabel will not work
> with the GENERIC kernel (which includes GEOM_PART_GPT and GEOM_LABEL,
> but no other GEOM_ pieces AFAICT)?

No, It doesn't. You can create partitions with fdisk/bsdlabel.
They do write directly to device and this does initiate tasting.
And GPART detects created partitions.

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monitoring hardware temperatures

[Mikhail T.]

Hello!

I have a server (Dell Poweredge 2900), that's loaded with sensors.

While it was in Windows-mode, a utility was able to tell me not only the 
temperature of each CPU-core, but also that of every DIMM!.. One of them 
was running far hotter than others, and I'd like to continue keeping an 
eye on it now that the box run FreeBSD.


In FreeBSD there is coretemp(4), which is nice, but nothing else... 
There is no hw.acpi.thermal hierarchy either on this box... Yet, the box 
has 6 fans, two power-supplies, plus DIMMs -- all of them with sensors, 
that I can't read...


It seems, in 2007, there was an attempt to introduce OpenBSD's 
sensor-framework:


   http://kerneltrap.org/OpenBSD/BSDCan_2008_Hardware_Sensors_Framework

but it was backed-out after being declared a "pile of crap" and 
"festering junkpile" by our most mirthful contributor:


   
http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=193129+0+archive/2007/cvs-all/20071021.cvs-all

"until a proper architectural solution has been found". Has that 
happened in the three years, that passed since that lovely discussion? 
Or are we still waiting for someone to design and implement it not 
merely "adequately", but "perfectly"?


If the three other BSD-cousins have had this for a while (NetBSD -- for 
10 years, apparently), continuing to insist on some future perfection 
seems wrong -- we should have this "adequate but imperfect" method if 
only for cross-BSD compatibility.


Is there, perhaps, a set of patches still secretly maintained by some 
die-hard? I'd love to try it here, and will be very thankful, if it 
gives me the monitoring, that I can not obtain otherwise... Thanks! Yours,


   -mi

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memoryuse vs vmemoryuse

[cronfy]

Hello!

I am trying to set user limits in login.conf, and I see there are
'memoryuse' and 'vmemoryuse'. Handbook describes only the former.. What is
the difference between them?

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SV: Archiving directories / zip format

[Hasse Hansson]

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org 
[mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] På vegne af Zbigniew Szalbot
Sendt: den 6 december 2010 08:17
Til: User Questions
Emne: Archiving directories / zip format

Dear all,

>From time to time I want to archive a quite a few directories to
download them conveniently. I have been using tar to do it, endingin
up with a tar.gz file. But the problem with it is that I do not have a
unix machine at home so if I want to extract something or unpack the
content, there is no easy way to do that. My question basically is if
there is a way to end up with a zip file? Or are there any windows
tools to unzip and/or extract content from tar.gz files?

Many thanks in advance!

Zbigniew Szalbot
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For windows I've used this program for years, http://www.ghisler.com/
Total Commander. Also good for moving around files. Even contain a FTP client.
/hasse 

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Re: -- Could NOT find XMMS: the nowplaying dataengine will NOT support XMMS 1.x

[Robert Huff]

Steven Friedrich writes:

>  > > -- Could NOT find XMMS: the nowplaying dataengine will NOT support XMMS
>  > > 1.x
>  > > 
>  > > I have the xmms port installed and I rebuilt kdelibs.
>  > > 
>  > > Why won't it see it?
>  > 
>  > xmms or xmms2? IIRC, xmms was discontinued a long time ago lol
>  
>  I'm using:
>  xmms-1.2.11_11  X Multimedia System -- An audio player with Winamp GUI
>  
>  This is xmms 1.x, right?  It appears to work.

XMMS-1.2.11.11 works for me stand-alone as well.


Robert Huff

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Re: binutils problem? WAS [Re: static linking error: ELF binary type "0" not known. Exec format error. Binary file not executable.]

[Tijl Coosemans]

On Monday 29 November 2010 14:04:16 Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
> - Forwarded message from Marcel Moolenaar  -
>> On Nov 10, 2010, at 5:32 AM, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
>>> [ia64]
>>> ia64% file a.out 
>>> a.out: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, IA-64, version 1 (SYSV), statically
>>> linked, not stripped
>>> 
>>> [amd64]
>>> amd64% file a.out 
>>> a.out: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (FreeBSD),
>>> statically linked, for FreeBSD 9.0 (900023), not stripped
>> 
>> The branding on ia64 is wrong. The executable is not marked as being
>> a FreeBSD executable. It's declared as SYSV, whereas on amd64 it's
>> properly declared as FreeBSD.
>> 
>> This is a binutils problem.
>
> Anybody here can explain better what Marcel meant
> by "binutils problem", and how to fix it?
> 
> I've binutils-2.20.1_3 installed from devel/binutils.

As a workaround you could manually brand the executable:
brandelf -f 9 a.out


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Re: Archiving directories / zip format

[Jerry]

On Mon, 6 Dec 2010 13:49:23 +0100
Hasse Hansson  articulated:

> >From time to time I want to archive a quite a few directories to
> download them conveniently. I have been using tar to do it, endingin
> up with a tar.gz file. But the problem with it is that I do not have a
> unix machine at home so if I want to extract something or unpack the
> content, there is no easy way to do that. My question basically is if
> there is a way to end up with a zip file? Or are there any windows
> tools to unzip and/or extract content from tar.gz files?

The basic "WinZIP" program  can
handle that. A list of all the formats supported is available here:
. I had the "7z" format added a few
years ago. Handling of the "xz" format should be included in the next
major update of the utility.

-- 
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RE: Archiving directories / zip format

[John D McDonnell]

> -Original Message-
> On Behalf Of Zbigniew Szalbot
> Dear all,
> 
>From time to time I want to archive a quite a few directories to
> download them conveniently. I have been using tar to do it, endingin up
> with a tar.gz file. But the problem with it is that I do not have a
> unix machine at home so if I want to extract something or unpack the
> content, there is no easy way to do that. My question basically is if
> there is a way to end up with a zip file? Or are there any windows
> tools to unzip and/or extract content from tar.gz files?
> 
> Many thanks in advance!
> 
> Zbigniew Szalbot

In Windows, I used to use PowerArchiver, which supports pretty much
everything under the sun, until it was no longer freeware and have since
found ZipGenius (free) which also seems to do the same. I have some
issues with it crashing now and then and it doesn't seem as stable as
PowerArchiver was, but the worst that has happened to me is having to
force ZipGenius to close and then re-open the archived file.

http://www.zipgenius.com/


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Re: Archiving directories / zip format

[Christer Solskogen]

On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 8:17 AM, Zbigniew Szalbot  wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> >From time to time I want to archive a quite a few directories to
> download them conveniently. I have been using tar to do it, endingin
> up with a tar.gz file. But the problem with it is that I do not have a
> unix machine at home so if I want to extract something or unpack the
> content, there is no easy way to do that. My question basically is if
> there is a way to end up with a zip file? Or are there any windows
> tools to unzip and/or extract content from tar.gz files?
>
> Many thanks in advance!
>


For Windows I use 7zip -  www.7-zip.org - it gets the job done. It
takes tarballs (.bz2 and .gz) zip, rar, and whatever I ever come
around. Take a look at it.


-- 
chs,
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Re: binutils problem? WAS [Re: static linking error: ELF binary type "0" not known. Exec format error. Binary file not executable.]

[Anton Shterenlikht]

On Mon, Dec 06, 2010 at 02:06:22PM +0100, Tijl Coosemans wrote:
> On Monday 29 November 2010 14:04:16 Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
> > - Forwarded message from Marcel Moolenaar  -
> >> On Nov 10, 2010, at 5:32 AM, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
> >>> [ia64]
> >>> ia64% file a.out 
> >>> a.out: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, IA-64, version 1 (SYSV), statically
> >>> linked, not stripped
> >>> 
> >>> [amd64]
> >>> amd64% file a.out 
> >>> a.out: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (FreeBSD),
> >>> statically linked, for FreeBSD 9.0 (900023), not stripped
> >> 
> >> The branding on ia64 is wrong. The executable is not marked as being
> >> a FreeBSD executable. It's declared as SYSV, whereas on amd64 it's
> >> properly declared as FreeBSD.
> >> 
> >> This is a binutils problem.
> >
> > Anybody here can explain better what Marcel meant
> > by "binutils problem", and how to fix it?
> > 
> > I've binutils-2.20.1_3 installed from devel/binutils.
> 
> As a workaround you could manually brand the executable:
> brandelf -f 9 a.out

this works fine.

many thanks
anton

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Re: memoryuse vs vmemoryuse

[Robert Bonomi]

> From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org  Mon Dec  6 06:36:38 2010
> From: cronfy 
> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 15:37:53 +0300
> To: freebsd-questions 
> Subject: memoryuse vs vmemoryuse
>
> Hello!
>
> I am trying to set user limits in login.conf, and I see there are
> 'memoryuse' and 'vmemoryuse'. Handbook describes only the former.. What is
> the difference between them?

'physical memory' and 'virtual memory', respectively.

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Can I run a 32-bit jail (or software) on a 64-bit server?

[Redd Vinylene]

Greetings!

Can I run a 32-bit jail (or software) on a 64-bit server? I need to use some
software that only works on 32-bit.

Thanks!
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Re: Can I run a 32-bit jail (or software) on a 64-bit server?

[Redd Vinylene]

On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 7:25 PM, Nerius Landys  wrote:

> I've had success running [at least some] 32 bit software on 64 bit
> FreeBSD without even using a jail.
> Do you have /usr/lib32 on your system?  This would get installed for
> example if you rebuild world/kernel following this:
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html
> and if you don't inhibit the installation of /usr/lib32 by setting
> some conf file flag somewhere.
>
> There are probably other ways to "get" /usr/lib32 on your system, but
> I usually rebuild world to make it happen.
>

Hey man!

Matter of fact - yeah - I do have /usr/lib32. So that's all I need or do I
need to activate something in rc.conf or whatever?

Much obliged!
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Re: Can I run a 32-bit jail (or software) on a 64-bit server?

[Nerius Landys]

>> I've had success running [at least some] 32 bit software on 64 bit
>> FreeBSD without even using a jail.
>> Do you have /usr/lib32 on your system?  This would get installed for
>> example if you rebuild world/kernel following this:
>> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html
>> and if you don't inhibit the installation of /usr/lib32 by setting
>> some conf file flag somewhere.
>>
>> There are probably other ways to "get" /usr/lib32 on your system, but
>> I usually rebuild world to make it happen.
>>
>
> Hey man!
>
> Matter of fact - yeah - I do have /usr/lib32. So that's all I need or do I
> need to activate something in rc.conf or whatever?
>
> Much obliged!

/usr/lib32 should be all you need [I think].
However you won't be able to correctly compile 32 bit software on your
64 bit system.  For
compiling, you _should_ use a jail, or compile on a 32 bit system.
They're addressing this cross-compiling issue in the latest FreeBSD
sources I think.
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Re: Can I run a 32-bit jail (or software) on a 64-bit server?

[Mike Bregg]

Yes, I believe this has been possible since 7.2.

Mike


On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Redd Vinylene wrote:

> Greetings!
>
> Can I run a 32-bit jail (or software) on a 64-bit server? I need to use
> some
> software that only works on 32-bit.
>
> Thanks!
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Re: Can I run a 32-bit jail (or software) on a 64-bit server?

[Nerius Landys]

I've had success running [at least some] 32 bit software on 64 bit
FreeBSD without even using a jail.
Do you have /usr/lib32 on your system?  This would get installed for
example if you rebuild world/kernel following this:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html
and if you don't inhibit the installation of /usr/lib32 by setting
some conf file flag somewhere.

There are probably other ways to "get" /usr/lib32 on your system, but
I usually rebuild world to make it happen.

On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Redd Vinylene  wrote:
> Greetings!
>
> Can I run a 32-bit jail (or software) on a 64-bit server? I need to use some
> software that only works on 32-bit.
>
> Thanks!
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Re: Can I run a 32-bit jail (or software) on a 64-bit server?

[Redd Vinylene]

Thanks a lot guys - I really appreciate it.

Redd
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Re: Can I run a 32-bit jail (or software) on a 64-bit server?

[David DEMELIER]

2010/12/6 Redd Vinylene :
> Greetings!
>
> Can I run a 32-bit jail (or software) on a 64-bit server? I need to use some
> software that only works on 32-bit.
>
> Thanks!
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Hello,

Since this question is asked a lot of time I think we should update
the handbook to say `yes' it's possible ! :-)

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-jail/2010-January/001139.html

http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-j...@freebsd.org/msg01201.html

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Re: Can I run a 32-bit jail (or software) on a 64-bit server?

[Redd Vinylene]

How do I create a 32-bit jail on a 64-bit machine then?

http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=3744 did not tell me much.

Thanks!
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Re: Can I run a 32-bit jail (or software) on a 64-bit server?

[Nerius Landys]

On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Redd Vinylene  wrote:
> How do I create a 32-bit jail on a 64-bit machine then?
>
> http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=3744 did not tell me much.
>
> Thanks!
>

Use this as a start:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/jails.html
Then you have to specify target arch = i386 or something in the make
buildworld etc. steps.  I don't remember the exact syntax for the make
flags off hand.
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Re: monitoring hardware temperatures

[Michael Fuckner]

On 12/06/10 08:30, Mikhail T. wrote:
Hi!



In FreeBSD there is coretemp(4), which is nice, but nothing else...
There is no hw.acpi.thermal hierarchy either on this box... Yet, the box
has 6 fans, two power-supplies, plus DIMMs -- all of them with sensors,
that I can't read...

did you try to read the data via IPMI?
kldload ipmi;ipmitool sdr

Regards,
 Michael!
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Re: Can I run a 32-bit jail (or software) on a 64-bit server?

[Devin Teske]

I wrote a utility (attached) to make the process really fast and easy:



jail_build(8): Build FreeBSD jails from binary distributions


Here's a simple howto:

Step 1: Create a landing zone for your binary distribution (jail_build(8) looks 
in `/usr/repos' for binary distributions)...

sudo mkdir -p /usr/repos
sudo cd /usr/repos

Step 2: Download one or more binary FreeBSD distributions (any version, any 
platform)...

wget -r ftp://ftp-archive.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/8.1-RELEASE

Step 3: Download jail_build(8)...

cd
wget http://druidbsd.sourceforge.net/download/jail_build.txt
mv jail_build.txt jail_build
chmod +x jail_build

Step 4: Build your jail(s)...

./jail_build
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P.S. Feedback welcome.


On Dec 6, 2010, at 11:14 AM, Redd Vinylene wrote:

> How do I create a 32-bit jail on a 64-bit machine then?
> 
> http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=3744 did not tell me much.
> 
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Re: Can I run a 32-bit jail (or software) on a 64-bit server?

[Randal L. Schwartz]

> "Devin" == Devin Teske  writes:

Devin> sudo cd /usr/repos

This is pretty useless. :)

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Re: SV: Archiving directories / zip format

[Polytropon]

On Mon, 6 Dec 2010 13:49:23 +0100, "Hasse Hansson"  
wrote:
> For windows I've used this program for years, http://www.ghisler.com/
> Total Commander. Also good for moving around files. Even contain a FTP client.

Allow me to mention a program called "FAR manager": If I
remember correctly, it has FTP and archiver support, and
comes in a handy text mode application.



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Re: Installer program for FreeBSD-9.0?

[Polytropon]

On Mon, 6 Dec 2010 10:31:26 +, Bruce Cran  wrote:
> There's a plan to replace sysinstall with pc-sysinstall, the
> PCBSD installer in 9.0. Currently the backend has been committed and
> people are working on a web interface frontend to allow people to do
> installations via a web browser.

Does this imply that the installation requires running X
plus a web browser, or a "hard to use" text mode web browser?
Or is this intended to be used for remote installation only?
Will the installer therefore be unusable for specific
settings (headless, serial, text)?



> Meanwhile I'm hoping to find some time to improve sysinstall now that
> we don't support installation from floppies: I know there are some big
> improvements that can be made while not taking on the work of a complete
> rewrite.

I agree that sysinstall could benefit from some improvements,
especially the incorporation of the "new partitioning methods",
involving labels, ufsids, GEOM, GPT and PMBR, keeping the
traditional methods MBR, fdisk, bsdlabel and newfs available
for those systems that the user INTENDEDLY wants to install
with those methods (e. g. older hardware).




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Re: monitoring hardware temperatures

[Mikhail T.]

On 06.12.2010 14:51, Michael Fuckner wrote:

did you try to read the data via IPMI?
kldload ipmi;ipmitool sdr 

Interestingly, I was doing just that, when your e-mail arrived...

ipmitool was impressive enough and I'm building openipmi to take a look 
at that too.


I don't see information on each DIMM (yet?), but other information is 
quite useful...


One of the fans, for example, was listed as "cr" (rather than "ok") -- 
which was, apparently, causing all other fans to run at maximum speed 
(*very* noisy fans in poweredge 2900).


I reset it (by pulling it out and back again), and now the box is 
quieting back down...


The sensors-patches did not add any new entries under hw.sensors 
hierarchy :(


The coretemp(4) stopped functioning, unfortunately... Whereas before, 
when I simply kldload-ed it, it was reporting reasonable temperatures, 
now that I have the sensors-patch merged in, I see nonsense like:


   hw.sensors.cpu0.temp0: -1282,97 degC
   hw.sensors.cpu1.temp0: -1272,97 degC
   hw.sensors.cpu2.temp0: -1282,97 degC
   hw.sensors.cpu3.temp0: -1262,97 degC

Seems like some kind of calibration issue -- the numbers differ from 
each other and change with time... I think, I'll back the patch out as 
it did not give me any new information -- the it- and lm-devices aren't 
found on this box :-(


Anyway, sdtemp(4) -- or equivalent -- is something, I'd like to have...

Thanks! Yours,

   -mi

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Re: Installer program for FreeBSD-9.0?

[Bruce Cran]

On Mon, 6 Dec 2010 23:13:19 +0100
Polytropon  wrote:

> Does this imply that the installation requires running X
> plus a web browser, or a "hard to use" text mode web browser?
> Or is this intended to be used for remote installation only?
> Will the installer therefore be unusable for specific
> settings (headless, serial, text)?

There's a discussion including the announcement at
http://markmail.org/message/nlmq7yquevkpmb47 .  But yes, I think you
will need to use some sort of web browser unless someone writes a
different frontend.

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Re: Can I run a 32-bit jail (or software) on a 64-bit server?

[Devin Teske]

On Dec 6, 2010, at 1:01 PM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:

>> "Devin" == Devin Teske  writes:
> 
> Devin> sudo cd /usr/repos
> 
> This is pretty useless. :)

I'd say it's _absolutely_ useless ^_^

Yes, indeed, the `sudo' should be omitted.
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Re: monitoring hardware temperatures

[Andriy Gapon]

on 07/12/2010 01:09 Mikhail T. said the following:
> On 06.12.2010 18:02, Andriy Gapon wrote:
>> BTW, you could probably write a simple script employing smbmsg(1) to query 
>> the
>> DIMMs based on logic in the sdtemp driver.
> From OpenBSD's sdtemp man-page, it would seem, the driver uses the iic 
> framework
> (if that's the right word, khmm...)
> 
> And on this server I can't get /dev/iic* (nor smb*) to appear despite loading
> everything I could think of (even the viapm):
> 
>  31 0x80c23000 d22  iic.ko
>  44 0x80c24000 10e7 iicbus.ko
>  51 0x80c26000 f16  iicsmb.ko
>  65 0x80c27000 819  smbus.ko
>  71 0x80c28000 c02  smb.ko
>  83 0x80c29000 114f iicbb.ko
>  91 0x80c2b000 1df3 ichsmb.ko
>101 0x80c2d000 1aed intpm.ko
>111 0x80c2f000 e38  pcf.ko
>121 0x80c3 b83  lpbb.ko
>131 0x80c31000 368b ppbus.ko
>141 0x80c35000 262a viapm.ko
> 
> Could it be, that the motherboard simply does not have the iic-circuitry and
> that some other method has to be used? Thanks! Yours,

That's quite possible.
Another possibility is that a driver that should be able to handle your hardwre
just doesn't know the particular IDs.

pciconf -lv output could shed some light.

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Re: monitoring hardware temperatures

[Andriy Gapon]

on 06/12/2010 23:05 Mikhail T. said the following:
> The sensors-patches did not add any new entries under hw.sensors hierarchy :(

Oh good, one less potential source of "sensors framework" flames :-)
Seriously, the version that was ported to FreeBSD was very desktop-ish, so no
miracle was expected and none happened.

BTW, you could probably write a simple script employing smbmsg(1) to query the
DIMMs based on logic in the sdtemp driver.

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Re: monitoring hardware temperatures

[Mikhail T.]

On 06.12.2010 18:02, Andriy Gapon wrote:

BTW, you could probably write a simple script employing smbmsg(1) to query the
DIMMs based on logic in the sdtemp driver.
From OpenBSD's sdtemp man-page, it would seem, the driver uses the iic 
framework (if that's the right word, khmm...)


And on this server I can't get /dev/iic* (nor smb*) to appear despite 
loading everything I could think of (even the viapm):


 31 0x80c23000 d22  iic.ko
 44 0x80c24000 10e7 iicbus.ko
 51 0x80c26000 f16  iicsmb.ko
 65 0x80c27000 819  smbus.ko
 71 0x80c28000 c02  smb.ko
 83 0x80c29000 114f iicbb.ko
 91 0x80c2b000 1df3 ichsmb.ko
   101 0x80c2d000 1aed intpm.ko
   111 0x80c2f000 e38  pcf.ko
   121 0x80c3 b83  lpbb.ko
   131 0x80c31000 368b ppbus.ko
   141 0x80c35000 262a viapm.ko

Could it be, that the motherboard simply does not have the iic-circuitry 
and that some other method has to be used? Thanks! Yours,


   -mi

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Re: monitoring hardware temperatures

[Mikhail T.]

On 06.12.2010 18:19, Andriy Gapon wrote:

Another possibility is that a driver that should be able to handle your hardwre
just doesn't know the particular IDs.

pciconf -lv output could shed some light.
Attached -- it is a "vanilla" PowerEdge 2900 with just one add-on card 
-- audio...


Thanks! Yours,

   -mi

hos...@pci0:0:0:0:  class=0x06 card=0x80868086 chip=0x25c08086 rev=0x12 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '5000X Chipset Memory Controller Hub'
class  = bridge
subclass   = HOST-PCI
pc...@pci0:0:2:0:   class=0x060400 card=0x chip=0x25e28086 rev=0x12 
hdr=0x01
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '5000 Series Chipset PCIe x4 Port 2'
class  = bridge
subclass   = PCI-PCI
pc...@pci0:0:3:0:   class=0x060400 card=0x chip=0x25e38086 rev=0x12 
hdr=0x01
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '5000 Series Chipset PCIe x4 Port 3'
class  = bridge
subclass   = PCI-PCI
pc...@pci0:0:4:0:   class=0x060400 card=0x chip=0x25e48086 rev=0x12 
hdr=0x01
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '5000 Series Chipset PCIe x4 Port 4'
class  = bridge
subclass   = PCI-PCI
pci...@pci0:0:5:0:  class=0x060400 card=0x chip=0x25e58086 rev=0x12 
hdr=0x01
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '5000 Series Chipset PCIe x4 Port 5'
class  = bridge
subclass   = PCI-PCI
pci...@pci0:0:6:0:  class=0x060400 card=0x chip=0x25f98086 rev=0x12 
hdr=0x01
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '5000 Series Chipset PCIe x8 Port 6-7'
class  = bridge
subclass   = PCI-PCI
pci...@pci0:0:7:0:  class=0x060400 card=0x chip=0x25e78086 rev=0x12 
hdr=0x01
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '5000 Series Chipset PCIe x4 Port 7'
class  = bridge
subclass   = PCI-PCI
no...@pci0:0:8:0:   class=0x088000 card=0x80868086 chip=0x1a388086 rev=0x12 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '5000 Series Chipset DMA Engine (5000P)'
class  = base peripheral
hos...@pci0:0:16:0: class=0x06 card=0x01b11028 chip=0x25f08086 rev=0x12 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '5000 Series Chipset Error Reporting Registers'
class  = bridge
subclass   = HOST-PCI
hos...@pci0:0:16:1: class=0x06 card=0x01b11028 chip=0x25f08086 rev=0x12 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '5000 Series Chipset Error Reporting Registers'
class  = bridge
subclass   = HOST-PCI
hos...@pci0:0:16:2: class=0x06 card=0x01b11028 chip=0x25f08086 rev=0x12 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '5000 Series Chipset Error Reporting Registers'
class  = bridge
subclass   = HOST-PCI
hos...@pci0:0:17:0: class=0x06 card=0x80868086 chip=0x25f18086 rev=0x12 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '5000 Series Chipset Reserved Registers'
class  = bridge
subclass   = HOST-PCI
hos...@pci0:0:19:0: class=0x06 card=0x80868086 chip=0x25f38086 rev=0x12 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '5000 Series Chipset Reserved Registers'
class  = bridge
subclass   = HOST-PCI
hos...@pci0:0:21:0: class=0x06 card=0x80868086 chip=0x25f58086 rev=0x12 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '5000 Series Chipset FBD Registers'
class  = bridge
subclass   = HOST-PCI
hos...@pci0:0:22:0: class=0x06 card=0x80868086 chip=0x25f68086 rev=0x12 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '5000 Series Chipset FBD Registers'
class  = bridge
subclass   = HOST-PCI
pci...@pci0:0:28:0: class=0x060400 card=0x01b11028 chip=0x26908086 rev=0x09 
hdr=0x01
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '631xESB/632xESB/3100 PCIe Root Port 1'
class  = bridge
subclass   = PCI-PCI
uh...@pci0:0:29:0:  class=0x0c0300 card=0x01b11028 chip=0x26888086 rev=0x09 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '631xESB/632xESB/3100 Chipset USB Universal Host Controller *1'
class  = serial bus
subclass   = USB
uh...@pci0:0:29:1:  class=0x0c0300 card=0x01b11028 chip=0x26898086 rev=0x09 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '631xESB/632xESB/3100 Chipset USB Universal Host Controller *2'
class  = serial bus
subclass   = USB
uh...@pci0:0:29:2:  class=0x0c0300 card=0x01b11028 chip=0x268a8086 rev=0x09 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '631xESB/632xESB/3100 Chipset USB Universal Host Controller *3'
class  = serial bus
subclass   = USB
uh...@pci0:0:29:3:  class=0x0c0300 card=0x01b11028 chip=0x268b8086 rev=0x09 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '631xESB/632xESB/3100 Chipset USB Universal Host 

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Re: printing from inside Linux firefox

[Dan Strick]

On Fri, 4 Dec 2010, Warren Block responded to my previous email:

> > On Fri, 3 Dec 2010, Dan Strick wrote:
> >
> > I tried /usr/ports/www/firefox which installs as firefox3, a native
> > FreeBSD Firefox program.  It will print via lpr, but It won't
> > do flash.
> 
> Actually, it will.
> 
> >  I tried the flashplugin-mozilla port, but it just causes a
> > segmentation violation when I visit a page with flash items.
> 
> Yes, that's not the right plugin.  Deinstall it and follow the Handbook 
> Flash instructions:

The flashplugin-mozilla port does indeed seem to be the wrong port and
the nspluginwrapper port mentioned in the FreeBSD Handbook does indeed
work, but there were a couple of glitches:

1) The plugin was installed in $HOME/.mozilla/plugins where Linux firefox
   executables also find it and then choke on the FreeBSD ELF file.  I fixed
   the problem by moving the plugin to /usr/local/lib/firefox3/plugins.

   Using a single .directory for multiple browsers is probably a very
   bad idea if it contains stuff which is not the same for all versions
   of all browsers.  I am not sure what a better alternative should look like.
   One possibility would be to have directories in $HOME/.mozilla with
   names like plugins-version-name.

2) The nspluginwrapper produces these warning messages:

   *** NSPlugin Viewer  *** WARNING: unhandled variable 18 ()
   in NPN_GetValue()
   *** NSPlugin Wrapper *** WARNING: unhandled variable 18 in NPP_GetValue()

   I can't solve this problem because the nspluginwrapper does not seem to
   come with any documentation.  Documentation would be noce since the
   nspluginwrapper claims to support other types of plugin but gives no hint
   about how to install them.

Thanks,
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Re: printing from inside Linux firefox

[Dan Strick]

On Sat 4 Dec 2010, Frank Shute responded to my previous question:

> On Fri, Dec 03, 2010 at 07:22:34PM -0800, Dan Strick wrote:
> >
> > ...
> >
> > I tried printing to a file, but both the Linux and FreeBSD Firefox
> > programs create slightly strange postscript and pdf files which seem
> > to display correctly via the ghostscript and acroread programs but
> > won't print correctly on my postscript printer (a Brother HL-1270N).
> 
> Firefox produces OK postscript. Your printer setup is borked. Try
> using lpr and doing away with CUPS is my advice. Then you can send ps
> directly to the printer.
> 
> Below are the important files for my postscript printer. I just
> convert everything to postscript before I lpr it.

I don't use CUPS.  My only interest in CUPS is that modern Linux binaries
often use it and I would like to know how to configure /compat/linux so
that printing works.  My FreeBSD system uses lpr.  My printcap entry
looks like this:  (the printer has an ethernet interface)

ps0|ps|Brother HL-1270N:\
:sh:rw:mx#3:\
:lp=9...@br-hl-1270n:sd=/var/spool/lp/ps0:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:

I also convert everything to postscript before I lpr it.

My printer setup is not borked.  All postscript files other than those
produced by firefox (e.g. those produced by enscript or groff -Tps)
work just fine.

My printer may be a little strange.  I am not sure its postscript
interpreter is precisely correct.

Thanks,
Dan Strick
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PostgreSQL + 8.1 RELEASE + DTrace = pain?

[Dave Pooser]

First off, I'll freely admit I'm a *BSD noob; I've been administering Mac
servers for a decade and OpenSolaris and Linux for 3-4 years but this is my
first ever attempt to set up a FreeBSD system. The goal is to replace a
Linux box that is currently a PostgreSQL database server; I need LDAP
authentication and I want DTrace. (I also want GSSAPI, but that's another
discussion entirely).

(Why FreeBSD? DTrace and ZFS without the Oracle Solaris pricetag. Plus it's
a *NIX I haven't used yet.)

So I used csup to update to the latest ports, built postgresql90-server from
ports with LDAP and no DTrace, and it worked fine. Then I used pkg_delete to
remove the postgresql packages (server and client), recompiled the kernel to
include DTrace and eliminate some unused drivers, updated loader.conf to
bring up dtraceall at boot, did a make clean and a make config to add
DTrace, and built postgresql90-server again. It appeared to work fine, but
now I'm getting segfaults when I try to launch it.

Am I doing something obviously stupid here? Is there a good source for
troubleshooting steps? What other information should I be posting to help
y'all help me figure this out?
-- 
Dave Pooser
Cat-Herder-in-Chief, Pooserville.com
"...Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving
safely in one pretty and well-preserved piece, but to slide across the
finish line broadside, thoroughly used up, worn out, leaking oil, and
shouting GERONIMO!!!" -- Bill McKenna



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Re: monitoring hardware temperatures

[Andriy Gapon]

on 07/12/2010 04:47 Mikhail T. said the following:
> On 06.12.2010 18:19, Andriy Gapon wrote:
>> Another possibility is that a driver that should be able to handle your 
>> hardwre
>> just doesn't know the particular IDs.
>>
>> pciconf -lv output could shed some light.
> Attached -- it is a "vanilla" PowerEdge 2900 with just one add-on card -- 
> audio...

Looks like no SMBus device indeed.

-- 
Andriy Gapon
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Re: printing from inside Linux firefox

[Warren Block]

On Mon, 6 Dec 2010, Dan Strick wrote:


My printer setup is not borked.  All postscript files other than those
produced by firefox (e.g. those produced by enscript or groff -Tps)
work just fine.

My printer may be a little strange.  I am not sure its postscript
interpreter is precisely correct.


PostScript emulations vary in quality.

ps2ps or ps2ps2 ("it's like typing 'banana'") may produce output more 
acceptable to Brother's PS emulator.

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Re: SV: Archiving directories / zip format

[Zbigniew Szalbot]

Dear all,

On 6 December 2010 22:58, Polytropon  wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Dec 2010 13:49:23 +0100, "Hasse Hansson"  
> wrote:
>> For windows I've used this program for years, http://www.ghisler.com/
>> Total Commander. Also good for moving around files. Even contain a FTP 
>> client.
>
> Allow me to mention a program called "FAR manager": If I
> remember correctly, it has FTP and archiver support, and
> comes in a handy text mode application.

I would like to thank everyone who contributed - I really appreciate
all the input I got. In the end I decided to use the zip port because
it works fine and I do not have winrar nor winzip installed on my
Windows machine. Thank you!

Zbigniew Szalbot
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