Re: Stopping Less from creating Log Files

[Lowell Gilbert]

Martin McCormick  writes:

> This is a minor problem but I use "more" to read Email messages
> from nmh. If one forgets what screen one is in, it is possible
> to start typing and create a log file of the message in which
> ever mailbox directory one is reading out of.
>
>   The man page for more is actually linked to less even
> though FreeBSD has /usr/bin/more and less. I even tried in the
> .mh_profile to call more with -Oo/dev/null but if you hit a key,
> the "logfile" prompt appears and any subsequent key strokes are
> part of the new file name.
>
>   This really is only a minor nuisance because it creates
> junk files that then have to be removed from the directory. So,
> if there is a way to make more or less not write anything, it
> would be more or less appreciated.

The "secure" mode disables log files, but it also changes several other
behaviours, so you may not find it to be an improvement.  The code
supports changing those "secure" features separately, but only by
editing the source; if you go that way, it will probably be much easier
to use the ports version of the program instead of the base system's.

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Hangs and "BTX halted" when booting mfsBSD image

[Mark Kane]

Hi everyone,

One of our remote servers was not able to have FreeBSD installed by the
datacenter and I would like to correct that by using the mfsBSD image
method to install remotely. I've been trying to test this locally in a
virtual machine to make sure everything will go smoothly before doing
it on the actual server.

I created the mfsBSD image using the 8.2-RELEASE i386 ISO and wrote it
to the boot drive using dd as mentioned in the documentation which went
well with no errors, however the virtual machine hangs upon booting. It
gets as far as showing the FreeBSD boot loader menu and counting down,
but it just hangs after that. If I leave it running while hung a "BTX
halted" error will eventually come up (after about 20 minutes when
using 8.2; 8.1 immediately gives the BTX halted error).

I've tried this in all the major emulators (qemu, VirtualBox, and
VMWare) to hopefully rule out any one of them causing an issue.

Booting the created mfsBSD image directly works with no issues, it's
just after writing it over the Linux install using dd that it does not
boot properly. 

Any suggestions would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

-Mark
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Re: Stopping Less from creating Log Files

[Arthur Chance]

On 04/11/11 18:36, Jerry McAllister wrote:

On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 11:36:37AM -0500, Martin McCormick wrote:


This is a minor problem but I use "more" to read Email messages
from nmh. If one forgets what screen one is in, it is possible
to start typing and create a log file of the message in which
ever mailbox directory one is reading out of.

The man page for more is actually linked to less even
though FreeBSD has /usr/bin/more and less. I even tried in the
.mh_profile to call more with -Oo/dev/null but if you hit a key,
the "logfile" prompt appears and any subsequent key strokes are
part of the new file name.


I think 'more' is just a link to 'less' anyway.  The binaries are
the same according to dif and cmp.

(not what you were asking, but...)


arthur@fileserver> ls -li /usr/bin/{more,less}
44019002 -r-xr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  139128 Feb 25 16:40 /usr/bin/less
44019002 -r-xr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  139128 Feb 25 16:40 /usr/bin/more

They're hard linked.

The OP should check out the section on environment variables in the man 
page. LESS and LESS_IS_MORE might help him.

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Re: Stopping Less from creating Log Files

[Jerry McAllister]

On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 11:36:37AM -0500, Martin McCormick wrote:

> This is a minor problem but I use "more" to read Email messages
> from nmh. If one forgets what screen one is in, it is possible
> to start typing and create a log file of the message in which
> ever mailbox directory one is reading out of.
> 
>   The man page for more is actually linked to less even
> though FreeBSD has /usr/bin/more and less. I even tried in the
> .mh_profile to call more with -Oo/dev/null but if you hit a key,
> the "logfile" prompt appears and any subsequent key strokes are
> part of the new file name.

I think 'more' is just a link to 'less' anyway.  The binaries are 
the same according to dif and cmp.

(not what you were asking, but...)

jerry

> 
>   This really is only a minor nuisance because it creates
> junk files that then have to be removed from the directory. So,
> if there is a way to make more or less not write anything, it
> would be more or less appreciated.
> 
>   Many thanks in advance.
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Re: full disk encryption with geli - where does the stuff in /boot/kernel

[CyberLeo Kitsana]

On 04/10/2011 09:34 PM, Gil Mordron wrote:
> # mount /dev/ad0.elia /fixed
> # export DESTDIR=/fixed/
> # cd /dist/6.0-RELEASE/base && ./install.sh

The 'base' distribution does not include any kernels. Take a look in
/dist/6.0-RELEASE/kernels for those. Note that kernels/install.sh will
not populate /boot/kernel either; instead, it'll drop the kernel into
/boot/GENERIC (for the generic kernel) for you to do with as you wish.

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Stopping Less from creating Log Files

[Martin McCormick]

This is a minor problem but I use "more" to read Email messages
from nmh. If one forgets what screen one is in, it is possible
to start typing and create a log file of the message in which
ever mailbox directory one is reading out of.

The man page for more is actually linked to less even
though FreeBSD has /usr/bin/more and less. I even tried in the
.mh_profile to call more with -Oo/dev/null but if you hit a key,
the "logfile" prompt appears and any subsequent key strokes are
part of the new file name.

This really is only a minor nuisance because it creates
junk files that then have to be removed from the directory. So,
if there is a way to make more or less not write anything, it
would be more or less appreciated.

Many thanks in advance.
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8.2-release no sound. error "driver bug: Unable to set devclass (devname: (null))"

[Zhang Weiwu, Beijing]

Behavior:


   tobago# kldload snd_driver
   driver bug: Unable to set devclass (devname: (null))
   ppc0: parallel port not found.
   driver bug: Unable to set devclass (devname: (null))
   ppc0: parallel port not found.
   ppc0: parallel port not found.
   driver bug: Unable to set devclass (devname: (null))
   ppc0: parallel port not found.
   driver bug: Unable to set devclass (devname: (null))
   ppc0: parallel port not found.
   driver bug: Unable to set devclass (devname: (null))
   ppc0: parallel port not found.
   tobago#

It turns out the kldload command itself have no output. all output are from 
dmesg.

What can I / should I do?

Interesting section of 'pciconf -lv':

none1@pci0:0:4:0:   class=0x040100 card=0x103b13bd chip=0x545510b9 rev=0x03 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Acer Labs Incorporated (ALi/ULi)'
device = 'AC'97 Audio Controller (M1563M Southbridge)'
class  = multimedia
subclass   = audio

uname:

FreeBSD tobago 8.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE #0: Fri Feb 18 02:24:46 UTC 2011 
r...@almeida.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386


By the way I tried to compile a kernel without ppc driver, thinking it causing 
trouble. Result is:

tobago# kldload snd_driver
driver bug: Unable to set devclass (devname: (null))
driver bug: Unable to set devclass (devname: (null))
driver bug: Unable to set devclass (devname: (null))
driver bug: Unable to set devclass (devname: (null))
driver bug: Unable to set devclass (devname: (null))
tobago#




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Re: Question : Developing/Making FreeBSD derivative.

[Alexander Lardner]

On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 6:38 AM, Traiano Welcome <
traiano.welc...@mtnbusiness.co.za> wrote:

> Hi
>
> The FreeBSD from scratch article has a lot of good ideas on how to do this.
> The article is somewhat dated, however, so your going to have to check that
> some of the methods are still current, and adapt them to your taste:
>
>
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/fbsd-from-scratch/article.html
>
>
> Regards,
> Traiano
>
> 
> From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [
> owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] on behalf of Stefan N [
> stefanbsd...@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 6:44 AM
> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org
> Subject: Question : Developing/Making FreeBSD derivative.
>
> Hi All,
>
>
> My name is Stefan and I am newbie with FreeBSD but I'm interested to learn
> more
> about FreeBSD . I am keen to know and learn more on  the process to make a
> new
> BSD's derivative/fork  from FreeBSD ?
>
> How is the method for customizing/remastering FreeBSD ? The most
> interesting
> part is that if we could make the new fork of FreeBSD with its own uname.
> If I
> could make my own BSD derivative and used StefanBSD as its uname, it would
> be
> awesome.
>
> Thank you in advance.
>
> Regards,
> Stefan
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Please, no top posting.

Also, thanks for the article. May make an interesting read.
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Re: Question : Developing/Making FreeBSD derivative.

[Daniel Staal]

On Mon, April 11, 2011 9:56 am, Stefan N wrote:
> Hi Christer,
>
> As there are many parts of the source code(from
> bin,cddl,contrib..usr.sbin),
> which part(s) of source code do I need to modify?

That would depend.  What is your derivative going to do differently than
FreeBSD?

Which brings in the more general question: Why?  What's the purpose of
your derivative?  Why should people use yours over FreeBSD?

Not that there aren't possible good reasons.  ;)  But answering that will
probably tell you what you need to do to create your derivative.

Daniel T. Staal

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Re: Question : Developing/Making FreeBSD derivative.

[Jerry McAllister]

On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 06:56:53AM -0700, Stefan N wrote:

> Hi Christer,
> 
> As there are many parts of the source 
> code(from bin,cddl,contrib..usr.sbin), 
> which part(s) of source code do I need to modify?

That is a strange question.   I guess the answer is 'Yes'

It depends on what you want to be changed in your new version.

For example, I would guess that you would take an interest in making 
your own user environment/interface.   Well, that would involve doing
stuff from X11 most likely and most probably more of configuration
changes than code changes.

Then there is a whole long list of things people want added/fixed/
modified on the system.   You might want to check that out for
ideas.

Probably you need to learn a lot more about the existing system
before you go to making a custom version.

jerry


> 
> Regards,
> Stefanus
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Christer Solskogen 
> To: Stefan N 
> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Sent: Mon, April 11, 2011 7:51:50 PM
> Subject: Re: Question : Developing/Making FreeBSD derivative.
> 
> On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 6:44 AM, Stefan N  wrote:
> > My name is Stefan and I am newbie with FreeBSD but I'm interested to learn 
> more
> > about FreeBSD . I am keen to know and learn more on  the process to make a 
> > new
> > BSD's derivative/fork  from FreeBSD ?
> >
> 
> You change the source code and compile
> 
> > How is the method for customizing/remastering FreeBSD ? The most interesting
> > part is that if we could make the new fork of FreeBSD with its own uname. 
> > If I
> > could make my own BSD derivative and used StefanBSD as its uname, it would 
> > be
> > awesome.
> 
> The method is really simple, actually. You change the source code and compile.
> Good luck!
> 
> -- 
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Re: ZFS Striping and Optimizing Capabilities

[Daniel Staal]

On Sun, April 10, 2011 2:32 am, Dan Nelson wrote:
> In the last episode (Apr 09), Chris Telting said:
>> Just a few questions about what ZFS actually does.  So if anyone has
>> intimate knowledge about ZFS's implementation on Freebsd I'm sure I and
>>  others would appreciate the answers.
>>
>> When you add a second and or thrid drive/partition to a zpool I'm
>> assuming that it's going to start using the drives like a raid 0
>> stripe.  How do the ZFS versions differ in this?  Does it immediately
>> start striping all files in the background on low priority or does it
>> do it as files are accessed?  Does ZFS in any way do performance
>> testing of
>
> Currently ZFS never moves a block once it has been written.  The whole
> implementation of copy-on-write and snapshots relies on this.  If you add
>  a new zvol to a pool, new data will get balanced across all the zvols
> but old data will stay where it was.  Ideally you should expand pools
> before they get too full, or zpool export/import them into new pools if
> you want good distribution over all disks.  There have been hints for the
> last few years of a "bp rewite" feature appearing, but it has never
> materialized.

One thought that hasn't been mentioned, and probably should be in this
context:  It depends a bit on how you add the disk.  A disk can be added
to a non-RAIDZ zpool as either a stripe or a mirror.  If you add it as a
mirror ('attach' in zpool terms), then yes it starts a background low
priority process that copies data over.

I don't really think that was your question, but it's closely enough
related that I thought it might be relevant.  In the context of stripes it
probably isn't relevant.  But it could be in the context of adding disks.

Daniel T. Staal

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Re: Question : Developing/Making FreeBSD derivative.

[Stefan N]

Hi Patrick,

Thanks for your usefull hints!!! I will try that as soon as possible.

Regards,
Stefanus






From: Patrick Lamaiziere 
To: Stefan N 
Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org
Sent: Mon, April 11, 2011 9:15:39 PM
Subject: Re: Question : Developing/Making FreeBSD derivative.

Le Sun, 10 Apr 2011 21:44:22 -0700 (PDT),
Stefan N  a écrit :

> How is the method for customizing/remastering FreeBSD ? The most
> interesting part is that if we could make the new fork of FreeBSD
> with its own uname. If I could make my own BSD derivative and used
> StefanBSD as its uname, it would be awesome.

# setenv UNAME_s PatrickBSD
# setenv UNAME_r 1.0-RELEASE
# setenv UNAME_v "PatrickBSD 1.0-RELEASE Thu Oct 28"

# uname -a
PatrickBSD net.lamaiziere.net 1.0-RELEASE PatrickBSD
1.0-RELEASE Thu Oct 28 i386

forked!

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Re: Question : Developing/Making FreeBSD derivative.

[Stefan N]

Hi Christer,

As there are many parts of the source code(from 
bin,cddl,contrib..usr.sbin), 
which part(s) of source code do I need to modify?

Regards,
Stefanus






From: Christer Solskogen 
To: Stefan N 
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Mon, April 11, 2011 7:51:50 PM
Subject: Re: Question : Developing/Making FreeBSD derivative.

On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 6:44 AM, Stefan N  wrote:
> My name is Stefan and I am newbie with FreeBSD but I'm interested to learn 
more
> about FreeBSD . I am keen to know and learn more on  the process to make a new
> BSD's derivative/fork  from FreeBSD ?
>

You change the source code and compile

> How is the method for customizing/remastering FreeBSD ? The most interesting
> part is that if we could make the new fork of FreeBSD with its own uname. If I
> could make my own BSD derivative and used StefanBSD as its uname, it would be
> awesome.

The method is really simple, actually. You change the source code and compile.
Good luck!

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RE: Question : Developing/Making FreeBSD derivative.

[Traiano Welcome]

Hi

The FreeBSD from scratch article has a lot of good ideas on how to do this. The 
article is somewhat dated, however, so your going to have to check that some of 
the methods are still current, and adapt them to your taste:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/fbsd-from-scratch/article.html


Regards,
Traiano


From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] 
on behalf of Stefan N [stefanbsd...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 6:44 AM
To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org
Subject: Question : Developing/Making FreeBSD derivative.

Hi All,


My name is Stefan and I am newbie with FreeBSD but I'm interested to learn more
about FreeBSD . I am keen to know and learn more on  the process to make a new
BSD's derivative/fork  from FreeBSD ?

How is the method for customizing/remastering FreeBSD ? The most interesting
part is that if we could make the new fork of FreeBSD with its own uname. If I
could make my own BSD derivative and used StefanBSD as its uname, it would be
awesome.

Thank you in advance.

Regards,
Stefan
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Re: Question : Developing/Making FreeBSD derivative.

[Patrick Lamaiziere]

Le Sun, 10 Apr 2011 21:44:22 -0700 (PDT),
Stefan N  a écrit :

> How is the method for customizing/remastering FreeBSD ? The most
> interesting part is that if we could make the new fork of FreeBSD
> with its own uname. If I could make my own BSD derivative and used
> StefanBSD as its uname, it would be awesome.

# setenv UNAME_s PatrickBSD
# setenv UNAME_r 1.0-RELEASE
# setenv UNAME_v "PatrickBSD 1.0-RELEASE Thu Oct 28"

# uname -a
PatrickBSD net.lamaiziere.net 1.0-RELEASE PatrickBSD
1.0-RELEASE Thu Oct 28 i386

forked!
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Re: Options for Secondary DNS Service?

[Ott Köstner]

On 11.04.2011 6:43, Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am looking for a secondary DNS service. Any suggestion? It is not
> for a non-profit organisation so I am not necessarily looking for a
> free solution, but I am wondering if there are reliable solutions for
> less than what dyndns charges ($40 /year/zone).
Approximately, how many zones?

Ott


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Re: Options for Secondary DNS Service?

[Jon Radel]

On 04/11/2011 06:10 AM, Maxim Khitrov wrote:

If you're able/willing to transfer your domain to gandi.net, they
offer free secondary dns service. It is enabled by adding
ns6.gandi.net as one of the nameservers. I've been using it without
any issues for a few years with djbdns as primary server.

- Max


On 4/11/11 7:58 AM, Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote:
>
> I was more looking for a slave server, since it would prefer to keep my
> primary server...
>
> Thanks!
>

Yes, that's what a secondary server is.

As Maxim said, gandi.net will provide a slave server as an option.  They 
will also provide all servers and allow use of their dashboard for 
maintaining records as a different option.


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Re: Options for Secondary DNS Service?

[Pierre-Luc Drouin]

I was more looking for a slave server, since it would prefer to keep my 
primary server...


Thanks!

On 04/11/2011 06:10 AM, Maxim Khitrov wrote:

On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 11:43 PM, Pierre-Luc Drouin
  wrote:

Hi,

I am looking for a secondary DNS service. Any suggestion? It is not for a
non-profit organisation so I am not necessarily looking for a free solution,
but I am wondering if there are reliable solutions for less than what dyndns
charges ($40 /year/zone).

Thanks!

If you're able/willing to transfer your domain to gandi.net, they
offer free secondary dns service. It is enabled by adding
ns6.gandi.net as one of the nameservers. I've been using it without
any issues for a few years with djbdns as primary server.

- Max


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Re: Options for Secondary DNS Service?

[Pierre-Luc Drouin]

Donating is an option yes. Any suggestion for a reliable free service?

Thanks!

On 04/11/2011 12:15 AM, Outback Dingo wrote:

whats the org ? could consider domating

On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 11:43 PM, Pierre-Luc Drouin 
mailto:pldro...@pldrouin.net>> wrote:


Hi,

I am looking for a secondary DNS service. Any suggestion? It is
not for a non-profit organisation so I am not necessarily looking
for a free solution, but I am wondering if there are reliable
solutions for less than what dyndns charges ($40 /year/zone).

Thanks!
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Re: Question : Developing/Making FreeBSD derivative.

[Christer Solskogen]

On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 6:44 AM, Stefan N  wrote:
> My name is Stefan and I am newbie with FreeBSD but I'm interested to learn 
> more
> about FreeBSD . I am keen to know and learn more on  the process to make a new
> BSD's derivative/fork  from FreeBSD ?
>

You change the source code and compile

> How is the method for customizing/remastering FreeBSD ? The most interesting
> part is that if we could make the new fork of FreeBSD with its own uname. If I
> could make my own BSD derivative and used StefanBSD as its uname, it would be
> awesome.

The method is really simple, actually. You change the source code and compile.
Good luck!

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Question : Developing/Making FreeBSD derivative.

[Stefan N]

Hi All,


My name is Stefan and I am newbie with FreeBSD but I'm interested to learn more 
about FreeBSD . I am keen to know and learn more on  the process to make a new 
BSD's derivative/fork  from FreeBSD ?

How is the method for customizing/remastering FreeBSD ? The most interesting 
part is that if we could make the new fork of FreeBSD with its own uname. If I 
could make my own BSD derivative and used StefanBSD as its uname, it would be 
awesome.

Thank you in advance.

Regards,
Stefan
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Re: ZFS Striping and Optimizing Capabilities

[Ivan Voras]

On 10/04/2011 06:27, Chris Telting wrote:

Just a few questions about what ZFS actually does. So if anyone has
intimate knowledge about ZFS's implementation on Freebsd I'm sure I and
others would appreciate the answers.

When you add a second and or thrid drive/partition to a zpool I'm
assuming that it's going to start using the drives like a raid 0 stripe.


Not exactly like RAID 0; ZFS's "striping" is not using regular patterns 
/ stripes but "IO balancing" heuristics. This means there are no fixed 
stripe size but the data is distributed across the drives in a way which 
ZFS's algorithms predict is best.


This allows for e.g. creating a zpool from a single drive, then adding 
another drive (as a "stripe") and ZFS will use both, but new data will 
be written mostly to the new drive. Performance should scale as expected 
in this scenario, e.g. not much if the first drive is almost full before 
adding a new one.



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Re: Options for Secondary DNS Service?

[Maxim Khitrov]

On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 11:43 PM, Pierre-Luc Drouin
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am looking for a secondary DNS service. Any suggestion? It is not for a
> non-profit organisation so I am not necessarily looking for a free solution,
> but I am wondering if there are reliable solutions for less than what dyndns
> charges ($40 /year/zone).
>
> Thanks!

If you're able/willing to transfer your domain to gandi.net, they
offer free secondary dns service. It is enabled by adding
ns6.gandi.net as one of the nameservers. I've been using it without
any issues for a few years with djbdns as primary server.

- Max
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