Piping find into tar...
List, I've been playing with the find command lately. Is there a way I can pipe the putput list of files from find, into the tar command to create an archive which contains the files which find lists? I tried the following, but it didn't work (obviously). find -E . '.*\.txt$' -print | tar -cjf result.tgz Thanks! -Modulok- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Piping find into tar...
Wake me up when September ends, freebsd-questions! 2011/05/04 01:25:39 -0600 Modulok modu...@gmail.com = To FreeBSD Questions : M find -E . '.*\.txt$' -print | tar -cjf result.tgz xargs(1) ? 73! Peter pgp: A0E26627 (4A42 6841 2871 5EA7 52AB 12F8 0CE1 4AAC A0E2 6627) -- http://vereshagin.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Piping find into tar...
On 04/05/2011 09:25, Modulok wrote: List, I've been playing with the find command lately. Is there a way I can pipe the putput list of files from find, into the tar command to create an archive which contains the files which find lists? I tried the following, but it didn't work (obviously). find -E . '.*\.txt$' -print | tar -cjf result.tgz Thanks! -Modulok- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Hi Modulok, As Peter said you could try using the xargs command with find. This should works as well: find -E . '.*\.txt$' -print | xargs tar -czf result.tgz -- David Demelier ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Piping find into tar...
I've been playing with the find command lately. Is there a way I can pipe the putput list of files from find, into the tar command to create an archive which contains the files which find lists? I tried the following, but it didn't work (obviously). find -E . '.*\.txt$' -print | tar -cjf result.tgz You could use something like: find -X . -name '*.txt' | xargs tar -cjf result.tgz or find . -name '*.txt' -print0 | xargs -0 tar -cjf result.tgz b. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Piping find into tar...
On 4 May 2011 08:44, b. f. bf1...@googlemail.com wrote: I've been playing with the find command lately. Is there a way I can pipe the putput list of files from find, into the tar command to create an archive which contains the files which find lists? I tried the following, but it didn't work (obviously). find -E . '.*\.txt$' -print | tar -cjf result.tgz You could use something like: find -X . -name '*.txt' | xargs tar -cjf result.tgz or find . -name '*.txt' -print0 | xargs -0 tar -cjf result.tgz b. How about using pax? find . -depth -print | pax -wd | gzip archive.tgz or find . -depth -print | pax -wd | bzip2 archive.tbz By the way, in reference to the commands above the -j option is for bzip2, so the extension should be .tbz o_O Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Piping find into tar...
On 5/4/11, Chris Rees utis...@gmail.com wrote: On 4 May 2011 08:44, b. f. bf1...@googlemail.com wrote: I've been playing with the find command lately. Is there a way I can pipe the putput list of files from find, into the tar command to create an archive which contains the files which find lists? I tried the following, but it didn't work (obviously). find -E . '.*\.txt$' -print | tar -cjf result.tgz You could use something like: find -X . -name '*.txt' | xargs tar -cjf result.tgz or find . -name '*.txt' -print0 | xargs -0 tar -cjf result.tgz b. How about using pax? find . -depth -print | pax -wd | gzip archive.tgz or find . -depth -print | pax -wd | bzip2 archive.tbz By the way, in reference to the commands above the -j option is for bzip2, so the extension should be .tbz o_O True. I just reproduced what the OP had. The archive will still use bzip2 compression, and bsdtar won't have a problem handling it, but the name will be misleading. As you wrote, pax(1) is an option, as are cpio(1) and many others... You should be able to use -z with pax to avoid the extra pipe and explicit invocation of gzip in the first case. b. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Piping find into tar...
By the way, in reference to the commands above the -j option is for bzip2, so the extension should be .tbz o_O Thanks everyone! I went with the following, because it works regardless of space characters in filenames. (Thanks for the correction on the extenion. It should indeed be 'tbz' when using the 'j' flag.) find -E . -regex '.*\.txt$' -print0 | xargs -0 tar -cjf result.tbz As for pax, I thought tar could create pax archives too, via the --format pax option? Cheers Everyone! -Modulok- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Piping find into tar...
On 5/4/11, Modulok modu...@gmail.com wrote: As for pax, I thought tar could create pax archives too, via the --format pax option? Yes, although I haven't tested it thoroughly. pax(1) should also be able to create a number of different archive formats via the -x flag. I prefer tar(1) (bsdtar/libarchive), because it has more features. b. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Limitting SSH access
I have a question concerning SSH op a FreeBSD 7.4-STABLE server. Is it possible to limit the SSH access? I want t o restrict a user to his own home directory. So that if he connects to the server with SSH he only can go to his own home dir. Also the same for sftp... Thanks for your time Jack Raats ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Limitting SSH access
On 04/05/2011 10:08, Jack Raats wrote: I have a question concerning SSH op a FreeBSD 7.4-STABLE server. Is it possible to limit the SSH access? I want t o restrict a user to his own home directory. So that if he connects to the server with SSH he only can go to his own home dir. Also the same for sftp... I believe you will need to install a version of OpenSSH from ports to get that functionality. It's the CHROOT config option in security/openssh-portable Cheers Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matt...@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Piping find into tar...
On 4 May 2011 10:42, Modulok modu...@gmail.com wrote: By the way, in reference to the commands above the -j option is for bzip2, so the extension should be .tbz o_O Thanks everyone! I went with the following, because it works regardless of space characters in filenames. (Thanks for the correction on the extenion. It should indeed be 'tbz' when using the 'j' flag.) find -E . -regex '.*\.txt$' -print0 | xargs -0 tar -cjf result.tbz As for pax, I thought tar could create pax archives too, via the --format pax option? Pax makes tar by default-- It's a great way to make tars with cpio syntax. Cheers Everyone! -Modulok- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Piping find into tar...
Dne 4.5.2011 11:42, Modulok napsal(a): By the way, in reference to the commands above the -j option is for bzip2, so the extension should be .tbz o_O Thanks everyone! I went with the following, because it works regardless of space characters in filenames. (Thanks for the correction on the extenion. It should indeed be 'tbz' when using the 'j' flag.) find -E . -regex '.*\.txt$' -print0 | xargs -0 tar -cjf result.tbz When the amount of files is huge then tar will be invoked twice or more. Thus result.tbz will contain just files from the last invocation. I consider cpio a better option here. BR Oli ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Limitting SSH access
On 4 May 2011 13:35, Matthew Seaman m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk wrote: On 04/05/2011 10:08, Jack Raats wrote: I have a question concerning SSH op a FreeBSD 7.4-STABLE server. Is it possible to limit the SSH access? I want t o restrict a user to his own home directory. So that if he connects to the server with SSH he only can go to his own home dir. Also the same for sftp... I believe you will need to install a version of OpenSSH from ports to get that functionality. It's the CHROOT config option in security/openssh-portable Cheers Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matt...@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW Hello, It should work with the base openssh on 7.4. Check your version with sshd -v. Here, search for chroot(or use google :)): http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=sshd_configsektion=5 Regarding ssh login, I usually use rbash from the ports, that restricts the user from leaving his or her home directory! Regards, Balazs Mateffy. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Limitting SSH access
Jack Raats j...@jarasoft.net writes: Hello, I have a question concerning SSH op a FreeBSD 7.4-STABLE server. Don't know sshd version in 7.4-STABLE, but if higher or equal to 4.8, the following link could help : http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/590 Regards Éric Masson -- C'est pas un pingouin mais une hirondelle africaine et sa noix de coco Maintenant que vous le dîtes, c'est fort possible, Roland Courbis a des faux airs de John Cleese, mais en plus petit. -+- fct inwww.le-gnu.net : Une hirondelle ne fait pas le pingouin-+- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Piping find into tar...
Dne 4.5.2011 11:42, Modulok napsal(a): By the way, in reference to the commands above the -j option is for bzip2, so the extension should be .tbz o_O Thanks everyone! I went with the following, because it works regardless of space characters in filenames. (Thanks for the correction on the extenion. It should indeed be 'tbz' when using the 'j' flag.) find -E . -regex '.*\.txt$' -print0 | xargs -0 tar -cjf result.tbz When the amount of files is huge then tar will be invoked twice or more. Thus result.tbz will contain just files from the last invocation. I consider cpio a better option here. The use of simple patterns permitted by tar(1) or cpio(1) may be a good choice in some cases, but we were responding to the OP's wish to use find(1), which is a bit more flexible. If there were a large number of files, one could still use find and tar in many cases by appending to the archive rather than (re)creating it with each tar invocation, e.g.: find . -type f -name '*.txt' -print0 | xargs -0 tar -rvf archive.tar ; bzip2 archive.tar b. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Seeking full-cups/lpd compilant printer
Hello, I'm searching a printer that works with cups only (I mean no hplip needed no specific vendor driver). I would like a simple desktop printer with scanner built-in for simple copies. http://www.epson.co.uk/Printers-and-All-In-Ones/Inkjet/Epson-Stylus-SX125 I like this one but the openprinting site says it recommends the epson drivers so I don't know if it works without and cups only... Do you have some good advices ? -- David Demelier ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Piping find into tar...
From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Wed May 4 02:26:32 2011 Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 01:25:39 -0600 From: Modulok modu...@gmail.com To: FreeBSD Questions freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Piping find into tar... List, I've been playing with the find command lately. Is there a way I can pipe the putput list of files from find, into the tar command to create an archive which contains the files which find lists? I tried the following, but it didn't work (obviously). find -E . '.*\.txt$' -print | tar -cjf result.tgz You're asking 'the wrong question'. tar _requires_ the filenames to be listed as parameters to the command. There are at least four ways to accomplish this, given the specific example you show. 1) The simplest: tar -cjf result.tbz .*.txt *.txt 2) in-line substitution: tar -cjf result.tbz `find -E . '.*\.txt$' -print` 3) using the '-T' option: find -E . '.*\.txt$' -print0 | tar -c -j --null -T - -f result.tbz 3) using xargs: find -E . '.*\.txt$' -print0 | xargs tar -rjf result.tar; bzip2 result.tar Options 1) or 2) will fail 'immediately', if the pattern expands to an excessively long set of filenames. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Piping find into tar...
Dne 4.5.2011 14:37, b. f. napsal(a): Dne 4.5.2011 11:42, Modulok napsal(a): ... find -E . -regex '.*\.txt$' -print0 | xargs -0 tar -cjf result.tbz When the amount of files is huge then tar will be invoked twice or more. Thus result.tbz will contain just files from the last invocation. I consider cpio a better option here. The use of simple patterns permitted by tar(1) or cpio(1) may be a good choice in some cases, but we were responding to the OP's wish to use find(1), which is a bit more flexible. If there were a large number of files, one could still use find and tar in many cases by appending to the archive rather than (re)creating it with each tar invocation, e.g.: find . -type f -name '*.txt' -print0 | xargs -0 tar -rvf archive.tar ; bzip2 archive.tar Yes, this would work, of course. Anyway, I prefer to use find ... | cpio ... | bzip2 I just disputed Modulok's solution find ... | xargs tar -cjf ... which wouldn't work in some cases. BR, Oli ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Piping find into tar...
kron24 kro...@gmail.com writes: Dne 4.5.2011 11:42, Modulok napsal(a): By the way, in reference to the commands above the -j option is for bzip2, so the extension should be .tbz o_O Thanks everyone! I went with the following, because it works regardless of space characters in filenames. (Thanks for the correction on the extenion. It should indeed be 'tbz' when using the 'j' flag.) find -E . -regex '.*\.txt$' -print0 | xargs -0 tar -cjf result.tbz When the amount of files is huge then tar will be invoked twice or more. Thus result.tbz will contain just files from the last invocation. Yes, xargs isn't part of the solution for this case unless you use the update mode to tar, which will be much slower. However, tar can read the file list from a file, which can be stdin if you want. The equivalent of the above command would be something like: find -E . -regex '.*\.txt$' -print0 | tar --null -T - -cjf result.tbz I consider cpio a better option here. The old ways still work very well. But it's worth noting that on FreeBSD these days, cpio(1) and tar(1) are both implemented on the same library, so there are very few things that one can do but the other cannot. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE
On Tue, May 03, 2011 at 08:48:55PM -0400, Daniel Staal wrote: --As of May 3, 2011 5:33:23 PM -0400, Jerry McAllister is alleged to have said: I don't remember seeing that. Anyway, go to the FreeBSD Release Engineering web site for information. http://www.freebsd.org/releng/index.html --As for the rest, it is mine. While that *should* be good advice, the most current 'upcoming releases' it lists are 8.2 and 7.4, both released a couple of months ago now. (Which it does say, at least.) So it's really fairly useless at the moment. Basically, as far as I can tell, 9 and/or 8.3 will come out when they come out. No sooner and no later. That is the way I interpret the page. eg. No code freeze. Open for submissions. jerry Daniel T. Staal --- This email copyright the author. Unless otherwise noted, you are expressly allowed to retransmit, quote, or otherwise use the contents for non-commercial purposes. This copyright will expire 5 years after the author's death, or in 30 years, whichever is longer, unless such a period is in excess of local copyright law. --- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Piping find into tar...
On 4 May 2011 14:25, Lowell Gilbert freebsd-questions-lo...@be-well.ilk.org wrote: kron24 kro...@gmail.com writes: Dne 4.5.2011 11:42, Modulok napsal(a): By the way, in reference to the commands above the -j option is for bzip2, so the extension should be .tbz o_O Thanks everyone! I went with the following, because it works regardless of space characters in filenames. (Thanks for the correction on the extenion. It should indeed be 'tbz' when using the 'j' flag.) find -E . -regex '.*\.txt$' -print0 | xargs -0 tar -cjf result.tbz When the amount of files is huge then tar will be invoked twice or more. Thus result.tbz will contain just files from the last invocation. Yes, xargs isn't part of the solution for this case unless you use the update mode to tar, which will be much slower. However, tar can read the file list from a file, which can be stdin if you want. The equivalent of the above command would be something like: find -E . -regex '.*\.txt$' -print0 | tar --null -T - -cjf result.tbz I consider cpio a better option here. The old ways still work very well. But it's worth noting that on FreeBSD these days, cpio(1) and tar(1) are both implemented on the same library, so there are very few things that one can do but the other cannot. Why on Earth are people still fooling about contorting tar into weird shapes The great thing about pax is It's a drop in replacement for cpio that makes tar archives; It's designed to be used with find! Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Seeking full-cups/lpd compilant printer
On 4 May 2011 13:58, David Demelier demelier.da...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I'm searching a printer that works with cups only (I mean no hplip needed no specific vendor driver). I would like a simple desktop printer with scanner built-in for simple copies. http://www.epson.co.uk/Printers-and-All-In-Ones/Inkjet/Epson-Stylus-SX125 I like this one but the openprinting site says it recommends the epson drivers so I don't know if it works without and cups only... Do you have some good advices ? Gutenprint supports nearly every printer under the Sun, is there a problem using gutenprint-cups? Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Can I bridge the same subnet across a VPN?
On 3 May 2011 20:44, Kevin Wilcox kevin.wil...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 15:19, Geoff Roberts ge...@apro.com.au wrote: Is it possible to join two sites with the same subnet across a VPN? Yes. I have two sites that have the same subnet/mask. I need these two separated networks to behave as one across a VPN. That's understandable. You may want to consider breaking the /24 into two /25s, one at each site, and routing the connection instead but that's not necessary and you can indeed use a bridge with few issues. Happy to use either IPSec or OpenVPN to actually encrypt the traffic. We've done it as a demo of what you can do with OpenVPN, it's trivial once you get some configuration issues straight in your head (or that's how it worked for me). To bridge in OpenVPN, take a look at: http://openvpn.net/index.php/open-source/documentation/miscellaneous/76-ethernet-bridging.html kmw ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org you can do this with a combination of openvpn (using tap, not tun) and if_bridge both ends. However I have found it to be flakey and not really worth the effort. Better to go with a routed solution. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Limitting SSH access
On 4 May 2011 12:47, Balázs Mátéffy repcs...@gmail.com wrote: On 4 May 2011 13:35, Matthew Seaman m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk wrote: On 04/05/2011 10:08, Jack Raats wrote: I have a question concerning SSH op a FreeBSD 7.4-STABLE server. Is it possible to limit the SSH access? I want t o restrict a user to his own home directory. So that if he connects to the server with SSH he only can go to his own home dir. Also the same for sftp... I believe you will need to install a version of OpenSSH from ports to get that functionality. It's the CHROOT config option in security/openssh-portable Cheers Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matt...@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW Hello, It should work with the base openssh on 7.4. Check your version with sshd -v. Here, search for chroot(or use google :)): http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=sshd_configsektion=5 Regarding ssh login, I usually use rbash from the ports, that restricts the user from leaving his or her home directory! Regards, Balazs Mateffy. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org if you want them to be able to get a shell ether then sftp prompt then you will have to go for the rbash option. If you chroot the shell to their home dir they wont have access to any system binaries so wont be able to 'ls' for example. Having said that you could build a tree of all the binaries they need along with all the dependent libraries. This would get a bit cumbersome and wasteful of disk space for lots of users though. You might be better off with jails. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Limitting SSH access
On 4 May 2011 16:27, krad kra...@gmail.com wrote: On 4 May 2011 12:47, Balázs Mátéffy repcs...@gmail.com wrote: On 4 May 2011 13:35, Matthew Seaman m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk wrote: On 04/05/2011 10:08, Jack Raats wrote: I have a question concerning SSH op a FreeBSD 7.4-STABLE server. Is it possible to limit the SSH access? I want t o restrict a user to his own home directory. So that if he connects to the server with SSH he only can go to his own home dir. Also the same for sftp... I believe you will need to install a version of OpenSSH from ports to get that functionality. It's the CHROOT config option in security/openssh-portable Cheers Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matt...@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW Hello, It should work with the base openssh on 7.4. Check your version with sshd -v. Here, search for chroot(or use google :)): http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=sshd_configsektion=5 Regarding ssh login, I usually use rbash from the ports, that restricts the user from leaving his or her home directory! Regards, Balazs Mateffy. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org if you want them to be able to get a shell ether then sftp prompt then you will have to go for the rbash option. If you chroot the shell to their home dir they wont have access to any system binaries so wont be able to 'ls' for example. Having said that you could build a tree of all the binaries they need along with all the dependent libraries. This would get a bit cumbersome and wasteful of disk space for lots of users though. You might be better off with jails. Or you could have a special /bin-restricted that you nullfs mount into ~userN/bin. Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Limitting SSH access
Wake me up when September ends, freebsd-questions! 2011/05/04 16:47:33 +0100 Chris Rees utis...@gmail.com = To krad : CR Is it possible to limit the SSH access? CR Regarding ssh login, I usually use rbash from the ports, that CR restricts CR Or you could have a special /bin-restricted that you nullfs mount into CR ~userN/bin. I personally should like to have a quick recipe on how to create such a limited set of binaries ( libraries, mans, etc., each mounted with nullfs read-only to every such a user's home ) from the 'world' build. Some options like the rsync I consider to be a must in some cases so this should include the ports availability, isn't it? 73! Peter pgp: A0E26627 (4A42 6841 2871 5EA7 52AB 12F8 0CE1 4AAC A0E2 6627) -- http://vereshagin.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Limitting SSH access
2011/5/4 Peter Vereshagin pe...@vereshagin.org: Wake me up when September ends, freebsd-questions! 2011/05/04 16:47:33 +0100 Chris Rees utis...@gmail.com = To krad : CR Is it possible to limit the SSH access? CR Regarding ssh login, I usually use rbash from the ports, that CR restricts CR Or you could have a special /bin-restricted that you nullfs mount into CR ~userN/bin. I personally should like to have a quick recipe on how to create such a limited set of binaries ( libraries, mans, etc., each mounted with nullfs read-only to every such a user's home ) from the 'world' build. Some options like the rsync I consider to be a must in some cases so this should include the ports availability, isn't it? Hehe, big can of worms here. Plenty of opportunity to break out of a chroot, as well as the fact that it's largely discredited as a security mechanism [1]. Someone mentioned Jails earlier, probably a better idea. Chris [1] http://kerneltrap.org/Linux/Abusing_chroot ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Seeking full-cups/lpd compilant printer
On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 02:49:04PM +0200, David Demelier wrote: Hello, I'm searching a printer that works with cups only (I mean no hplip needed no specific vendor driver). If you buy a printer that understands PostScript, you won't need any extra drivers. But; I would like a simple desktop printer with scanner built-in for simple copies. To the best of my knowledge, a lot of these all-in-one devices require windows-only drivers and software to work properly. Unless you are _certain_ that it will work, I think it is better to stay away from them. Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgplSYdbLvQfR.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Seeking full-cups/lpd compilant printer
On Wed, 04 May 2011 14:49:04 +0200, David Demelier demelier.da...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I'm searching a printer that works with cups only (I mean no hplip needed no specific vendor driver). One word: Postscript. :-) I would like a simple desktop printer with scanner built-in for simple copies. Obtain a used office printer. This will safe you money (as toner cartridges are cheap for them) and trouble (as they ususally have a network interface). http://www.epson.co.uk/Printers-and-All-In-Ones/Inkjet/Epson-Stylus-SX125 I stopped parsing the URI when encounterin Injket. Do not use an inkpee printer, it's just too expensive. I like this one but the openprinting site says it recommends the epson drivers so I don't know if it works without and cups only... Vendor-specific drivers are a big problem of home consumer crap. If there is a foomatic printer filter for the device, you're lucky, but if it's too new, it won't work, especially if the printer manufacturer refuses to use standards. Do you have some good advices ? Laser printer. Really. If you require color, choose a color laser printer. They're cheap these days. Pay attention that it supports Postscript. If not, look for something that speaks HP PCL. It's very well supported by the gs (Ghost- Script) printer filter. Don't fear to buy _used_ office equipment. I may say that I have a huge HP Laserjet 4000 duplex at home, because it serves my needs _here_ well. I don't need color output, but I love using two-sided printing (for economical reasons). The printer is networked and runs it own (!) lpd, so it's a joy to print with it. The printer is fast, the toner is cheap. It's also very energy-efficient. I got the printer in a used state, it's (I think) 10 years old now. I _heavily_ use it. (I also have a Laserjet 4 that is more than 15 years old and _still_ in a perfectly working condition!) Home consumer crap tends to use USB. This limits you in speed and distance. And whenever you print, it causes system load. It also tends to break after some use. Also if you do NOT use it, it also breaks (or forces you to buy new inkpee ink-tank-and-printing-head-cartridges which are almost as expensive as the printer). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: A possibly odd upgrade question
On Wed 2011-05-04 12:50:05 UTC-0400, Chris Brennan (xa...@xaerolimit.net) wrote: I have an old PIII running FreeBSD7.3 currently, ports is all kinds of screwed up, when I did my first cross-version upgrade from 6.x to 7.x, I didn't know I had to rebuild ports, I subsequently upgrades though every version upto to 7.3. Ports is still FUBAR, half of them no longer work. So my question is this, now I know for the future to upgrade ports after every upgrade, is it safe to nuke /usr/local (excluding /usr/local/home), rebuild world/kernel for 8.2 and start with a fresh ports tree? You only need to rebuild all your ports after a major FreeBSD upgrade, eg. 6.x to 7.x, or 7.x to 8.x. Deleting /usr/local is a bit of an extreme step. You can run pkg_delete -av to delete all installed ports. Starting with a fresh ports tree is probably only necessary if your ports tree is very out of date. Only because if it's stale it could take longer to update it with portsnap than to start the tree from scratch. Of course deleting an existing ports tree can also take a while, too. You shouldn't need to build world kernel for 8.2 unless you need a custom kernel or something else peculiar to your setup. I have no way of knowing, but I suspect most FreeBSD users just use freebsd-update these days to install the premade binaries of world kernel. I thought about a clean reinstall but this machine cannot boot from USB, both CD-ROM's are dead and have been disconnected to use IDE hard-drives and the floppy driver is dead as well. You could put the boot HDD into another machine with a working CD-ROM, install it onto that, then put the HDD back into the P3 when you're done. There's no requirement that the installation needs to be done on the same machine it's going to ultimately boot from. Do you actually need to upgrade to 8.x? I'm not sure there's much to gain from putting 8.x on an old P3... Regards Andrew ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: A possibly odd upgrade question
On Wed, 4 May 2011 12:50:05 -0400 Chris Brennan xa...@xaerolimit.net articulated: I have an old PIII running FreeBSD7.3 currently, ports is all kinds of screwed up, when I did my first cross-version upgrade from 6.x to 7.x, I didn't know I had to rebuild ports, I subsequently upgrades though every version upto to 7.3. Ports is still FUBAR, half of them no longer work. So my question is this, now I know for the future to upgrade ports after every upgrade, is it safe to nuke /usr/local (excluding /usr/local/home), rebuild world/kernel for 8.2 and start with a fresh ports tree? I thought about a clean reinstall but this machine cannot boot from USB, both CD-ROM's are dead and have been disconnected to use IDE hard-drives and the floppy driver is dead as well. So it would seem an inline/online rebuild is my only upgrade solution but with ports in it's current state of FUBAR, it leaves me with the question of what to do with that too. P.S. I've tried a portmaster/portsupgrade of ports, both met with disastrous results and with 193 current ports installed, over 75% of which is broke and isn't used any more ... I need to start over Chris, when I have had to do major rebuilds, I have found portmanager to be the best tool. It just seems to work. In any case, if it were me, I would clean out the /usr/ports/distfiles directory, update your ports tree, and then update you OS. When you are finished with that fun chore, run; portmanager -u -l -y -f. Depending on the number of ports installed, it might take some time though. Obviously, you need portmanager installed first. By the way, if you know you need a distfile installed first, something like diablo-jdk or diablo-jre that require you to have the distfile all ready in the /usr/ports/distfiles directory prior to attempting to build the port, then do that prior to updating your system and running portmanager. -- Jerry ✌ jerry+f...@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies, ignored or reported as Spam. Do not CC this poster. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: A possibly odd upgrade question
On 4 May 2011 12:50, Chris Brennan xa...@xaerolimit.net wrote: is it safe to nuke /usr/local (excluding /usr/local/home), rebuild world/kernel for 8.2 and start with a fresh ports tree? Yes, though pkg_delete -af will probably suffice for removing the ports ( /var/db/pkg/ as well). -- -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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Re: A possibly odd upgrade question
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Jerry je...@seibercom.net wrote: Chris, when I have had to do major rebuilds, I have found portmanager to be the best tool. It just seems to work. In any case, if it were me, I would clean out the /usr/ports/distfiles directory, update your ports tree, and then update you OS. When you are finished with that fun chore, run; portmanager -u -l -y -f. Depending on the number of ports installed, it might take some time though. Obviously, you need portmanager installed first. By the way, if you know you need a distfile installed first, something like diablo-jdk or diablo-jre that require you to have the distfile all ready in the /usr/ports/distfiles directory prior to attempting to build the port, then do that prior to updating your system and running portmanager. The problem here (as I have previously mentioned and further discussed in my reply to Andrew Clarke) is that the most of the ports won't rebuild for various reasons. I'm pretty handy, but not brilliant. So instead of asking for my hand to be held by the mailing list, I thought nuking everything I installed from ports after moving to 8.x would be the smartest move, then from there reinstall (from a fresh ports tree) only what I need for the retasked purpose. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: A possibly odd upgrade question
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 2:40 PM, ill...@gmail.com ill...@gmail.com wrote: On 4 May 2011 12:50, Chris Brennan xa...@xaerolimit.net wrote: is it safe to nuke /usr/local (excluding /usr/local/home), rebuild world/kernel for 8.2 and start with a fresh ports tree? Yes, though pkg_delete -af will probably suffice for removing the ports ( /var/db/pkg/ as well). Someone else suggested 'pkg_delete -av' ... would -avf then be a safe assumption? I want to make sure I have a solid leg to stand on before I start anything... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: A possibly odd upgrade question
On 4 May 2011 15:54, Chris Brennan xa...@xaerolimit.net wrote: On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 2:40 PM, ill...@gmail.com ill...@gmail.com wrote: On 4 May 2011 12:50, Chris Brennan xa...@xaerolimit.net wrote: is it safe to nuke /usr/local (excluding /usr/local/home), rebuild world/kernel for 8.2 and start with a fresh ports tree? Yes, though pkg_delete -af will probably suffice for removing the ports ( /var/db/pkg/ as well). Someone else suggested 'pkg_delete -av' ... would -avf then be a safe assumption? I want to make sure I have a solid leg to stand on before I start anything... -v is just for verbose. I honestly don't know if the -f makes a difference with -a either. Probably not. -- -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
rox-fm
after installation of rox-filler i noticed i cant select menu item from fluxbox? is there anyway to circumvent this? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: rox-fm
On Wed, 04 May 2011 21:01:28 +, pwnedomina pwnedom...@gmail.com wrote: after installation of rox-filler i noticed i cant select menu item from fluxbox? is there anyway to circumvent this? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Hi, you go in rox options-compatibility then select the option Pass all backdrop mouse click to window manager and/or you may have to select the Black Box Root menu hack, too. After that your fluxbox menue should work again. cheers -- Daniel Dowse \\|// (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- - Wer Morgens verknittert ist, hat Tagsueber mehr Zeit sich zu - - enfalten; - - - Please send plain ASCII text only.- - Please reply below quoted text section. - - ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Can I bridge the same subnet across a VPN?
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 8:19 AM, krad kra...@gmail.com wrote: you can do this with a combination of openvpn (using tap, not tun) and if_bridge both ends. However I have found it to be flakey and not really worth the effort. Better to go with a routed solution. The problem I've always found with bridged solutions is they don't cope well under heavy traffic loads when the VPN link is slower than the LANs they're bridging between. And the VPN link is usually slower if it's over a WAN. The link tends to get saturated. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: A possibly odd upgrade question
On 04/05/2011 20:53, Chris Brennan wrote: On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Jerryje...@seibercom.net wrote: Chris, when I have had to do major rebuilds, I have found portmanager to be the best tool. It just seems to work. In any case, if it were me, I would clean out the /usr/ports/distfiles directory, update your ports tree, and then update you OS. When you are finished with that fun chore, run; portmanager -u -l -y -f. Depending on the number of ports installed, it might take some time though. Obviously, you need portmanager installed first. By the way, if you know you need a distfile installed first, something like diablo-jdk or diablo-jre that require you to have the distfile all ready in the /usr/ports/distfiles directory prior to attempting to build the port, then do that prior to updating your system and running portmanager. The problem here (as I have previously mentioned and further discussed in my reply to Andrew Clarke) is that the most of the ports won't rebuild for various reasons. I'm pretty handy, but not brilliant. So instead of asking for my hand to be held by the mailing list, I thought nuking everything I installed from ports after moving to 8.x would be the smartest move, then from there reinstall (from a fresh ports tree) only what I need for the retasked purpose. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org I second Jerry, portmanager is indeed a very effective tool, it's simple and thorough and probably has as good a chance of fixing ports issues as anything. Or used to, I've been trying out tinderbox so haven't used it for a year or so. If you do use portmanager there are a few tricks you can do to make it effectively unattended. However, doesn't -u -f mean rebuild all dependencies of all ports? In which case wouldn't it be just as effective and cleaner for the OP to nuke the lot and rebuild, particularly in view of the retasked purpose. Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: A possibly odd upgrade question
On Wed, 04 May 2011 22:51:05 +0100 Chris Whitehouse cwhi...@onetel.com articulated: I second Jerry, portmanager is indeed a very effective tool, it's simple and thorough and probably has as good a chance of fixing ports issues as anything. Or used to, I've been trying out tinderbox so haven't used it for a year or so. If you do use portmanager there are a few tricks you can do to make it effectively unattended. However, doesn't -u -f mean rebuild all dependencies of all ports? In which case wouldn't it be just as effective and cleaner for the OP to nuke the lot and rebuild, particularly in view of the retasked purpose. Yes, from the man pages it states it will rebuild all packages and their dependencies. I simply include the l so he would have a log file available if something did go wrong. In any case, I thought it might save him some trouble rebuilding his system. There are some ports; however, that will not build correctly unless the program is first removed from the system. Obviously not a friendly concept; however, a reality. The OP would have to remove them first I suppose before doing a force rebuild. Maybe just doing a pkg_delete -adv would be a better idea. -- Jerry ✌ freebsd.u...@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies, ignored or reported as Spam. Do not CC this poster. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __ Getting the job done is no excuse for not following the rules. Corollary: Following the rules will not get the job done. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Laptop Multi-HD partitioning advice (ZFS)
I just got notified my new Thinkpad X220 is on it's way, and I'm thinking about the best way to use it. ;) Obviously, FreeBSD with ZFS is on top of the list. (De-dup and compression on my space-limited laptop? Yes, please.) Some relevant vitals (after a couple of upgrades that are also on their way): 6GB of RAM 250GB 2.5in HDD 40GB mSATA SSD I'm planning on installing the patched version of 8.2, with the patches for ZFS v28. My idea at this point is to use the main HDD as the primary drive, with the SSD partitioned into a small[1] ZIL-device and a larger cache drive. Since it's a SSD, I don't think disk contention should be an issue for that use, and it should speed up both reads and writes. It might even reduce the amount of main-disk use that happens. (Or at least, make it happen in short bursts, and let the drive idle in between.) I might still upgrade that HDD to something larger than stock. I could go to an SSD there too (and it's on a SATA III connection, so it could be a *faster* SSD), but I think I'm more likely to go with more space if I decide to upgrade. Obviously, I'm not afraid of a weird config in this case. ;) I'm also not trying to optimize hard for space, or for any specific use-case: I tend to use a laptop for light-duty when I'm not traveling, then more heavy-duty (as well as watching movies, etc) during occasional traveling. The idea here is to let ZFS do the disk optimization. It'll probably slow down my boot times from what could be possible, but I'm hoping ZFS will do things like move a movie I'm *currently* watching to the cache drive, and let the machine shut down the hard drive. Two things I'm *not* sure what the best choices for are the swap partition, and the boot sector. Swap could be on the HDD (slow, reduces my apparent disk-space), on the SSD (fast, reduces my most valuable disk space), or in ZFS (doesn't use dedicated space, but has stability issues under heavy load). Of course I may not ever *need* much swap, as I have a fair amount of RAM. (And I don't care about crash dumps on this box.) The boot sector doesn't really matter as much; if I go with a dedicated swap partition that will probably also hold the boot sector. Otherwise, I'm leaning towards the SSD, as I'm already planning on partitioning that, and I'm less likely to pull it out. Or, of course, there may be other considerations that I've overlooked in the rest. So, I'm looking for wisdom, or other thoughts people have. ;) Daniel T. Staal [1] As per: http://www.solarisinternals.com/wiki/index.php/ZFS_Best_Practices_Guide#Separate_Log_Devices ZIL devices will never use more than 1/2 of RAM, at absolute max, and in most cases will use significantly less. Fully upgraded, this machine supports 8GB of RAM, so a 4GB ZIL device would be plenty in all cases, and would probably be overkill. --- This email copyright the author. Unless otherwise noted, you are expressly allowed to retransmit, quote, or otherwise use the contents for non-commercial purposes. This copyright will expire 5 years after the author's death, or in 30 years, whichever is longer, unless such a period is in excess of local copyright law. --- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Can I bridge the same subnet across a VPN?
Hi David and others, Thanks for the feedback. On Thu, 5 May 2011 07:24:13 am David Brodbeck wrote: The problem I've always found with bridged solutions is they don't cope well under heavy traffic loads when the VPN link is slower than the LANs they're bridging between. And the VPN link is usually slower if it's over a WAN. The link tends to get saturated. Was this easy to measure, and how did you measure this - dropped packets on the bridge interface? Kind regards, Geoff -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: rox-fm
On Wed, 04 May 2011 23:33:18 +, pwnedomina pwnedom...@gmail.com wrote: Em 04-05-2011 20:49, Daniel C. Dowse escreveu: On Wed, 04 May 2011 21:01:28 +, pwnedominapwnedom...@gmail.com wrote: after installation of rox-filler i noticed i cant select menu item from fluxbox? is there anyway to circumvent this? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Hi, you go in rox options-compatibility then select the option Pass all backdrop mouse click to window manager and/or you may have to select the Black Box Root menu hack, too. After that your fluxbox menue should work again. cheers also, how can i personalise my Eterm console in order to show a string choosen by me? eg. [user@user:~]-cmd here Hi, please always check that the recipient is the mailing list and not the one that answered your question. The look of your command prompt depends on what shell you use e.g bash export PS1='\[\033[32m\][\@][@ \W)$\[\033[0m\]' in your .bashrc would make your prompt look like [01:40 am][@ ~)$ in green color. Just use your g00gle foo, and you will sure find a lot of examples for your kind of shell, to customize your command prompt. Daniel Dowse \\|// (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- - Wer Morgens verknittert ist, hat Tagsueber mehr Zeit sich zu - - enfalten; - - - Please send plain ASCII text only.- - Please reply below quoted text section. - - ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: rox-fm
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 7:45 PM, Daniel C. Dowse dcdo...@gmx.net wrote: On Wed, 04 May 2011 23:33:18 +, pwnedomina pwnedom...@gmail.com wrote: Em 04-05-2011 20:49, Daniel C. Dowse escreveu: [...] please always check that the recipient is the mailing list and not the one that answered your question. Yeah, this is a pain in the ass, and it's really not the OP's fault entirely. It's a simple mailman config option but I think it's an idiosyncrasy thing about open lists, blah, blah, blah. The easiest way is to ALWAYS HIT REPLY ALL, and the figure out who the mail is going to. IMHO it should ALWAYS be the list ONLY, but many list admins use it the way it's set-up here on the general questions list, why tf it beats me, but it's really annoying. I wish someone could clearly explain why the reply-to field should ONLY have the mailing-list address, or at least have as the default address and not the other way around as it is here! Best, -- Alejandro Imass ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
