AMD 850/950 support?

2011-09-02 Thread Rob 
Anyone know if FreeBSD 8.2 supports the AMD 850 and/or 950 southbridge? 
 I've been looking on the web without much luck (unusual) and the 
hardware docs for the release for the ata driver only mentions 5 amd 
chipsets.  Is there perhaps a different chipset I should be looking for 
to determine ata support for those southbridges?


Rob
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RE: [OT] pfSense Book Publisher

2011-09-02 Thread Sean Cavanaugh 
I think you would have a better response asking that question on the pfsense
mailing list as the author hangs out on it.

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[mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Alejandro Imass
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 4:33 PM
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Subject: [OT] pfSense Book Publisher

Hi,

Anybody know the editorial/publisher of the psSense book?

Thanks,

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Re: [OT] pfSense Book Publisher

2011-09-02 Thread Alejandro Imass 
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Jerry  wrote:
> On Fri, 2 Sep 2011 16:33:22 -0400
> Alejandro Imass articulated:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Anybody know the editorial/publisher of the psSense book?
>
> Which one? Perhaps you might want to start here:
>
> 
>

Thanks. I knew it was published in Amazon but I want to purchase
another format other than Kindle because I use B&N's nook.
I want to locate the publisher to see if they have other formats like
ePub or PDF.


> BTW, your "sig delimiter" is not followed by a "space" effectively
> making it useless.
>

Thanks, let's see if it works now:

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Re: random generated password

2011-09-02 Thread Michael 

On 30/08/2011 19:30, Mike Tancsa wrote:


Preferably in a non-interactive and scriptable way. Is it possible with
the base system tools?


0(ich10)# pw usermod testuser1 -w random
Password for 'testuser1' is: km.y0LScI3p1
0(ich10)# pw usermod testuser1 -w random
Password for 'testuser1' is: P5RrhmUl4Np2
0(ich10)#



Perfect, exactly what I was looking for, thank you.

Michael
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RE: [OT] pfSense Book Publisher

2011-09-02 Thread Michael K. Smith - Adhost 
Hi Alejandro:

I'm not aware of a pfSense book, but if you want a book on PF, there is:

The OpenBSD PF Packet Filter Book
Editor:  Jeremy C. Reed
Publisher: Reed Media Services
ISBN: 978-0-9790342-0-6

Regards,

Mike

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> -Original Message-
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> To: FreeBSD Questions
> Subject: [OT] pfSense Book Publisher
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Anybody know the editorial/publisher of the psSense book?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
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Re: [OT] pfSense Book Publisher

2011-09-02 Thread Jerry 
On Fri, 2 Sep 2011 16:33:22 -0400
Alejandro Imass articulated:

> Hi,
> 
> Anybody know the editorial/publisher of the psSense book?

Which one? Perhaps you might want to start here:



BTW, your "sig delimiter" is not followed by a "space" effectively
making it useless.

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Re: Is there way to get filename for specific LBA?

2011-09-02 Thread Marcin Wisnicki 
On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 20:50:18 -0700, Carl Johnson wrote:

> 
> It looks like the best bet would be fsdb, assuming that it is a UFS file
> system.  That does have a 'findblk' command to find a file containing a
> block, but you would need to calculate the block offset in the
> filesystem first.  It doesn't look like it would be easy, as was said
> earlier.

I have a ruby script for this that wraps various commands.

You pipe an error log to it and it finds files:

  blocks2file.rb < /var/log/messages

Currently, it looks only for geom errors (with byte offsets) but that can 
be easily adjusted.
It helped me find the source of my problems in the past but I haven't 
worked on it since.

Here it is: https://github.com/mwisnicki/freebsd-block2file

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[OT] pfSense Book Publisher

2011-09-02 Thread Alejandro Imass 
Hi,

Anybody know the editorial/publisher of the psSense book?

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Re: Mount a ufs partition writable by group wheel?

2011-09-02 Thread Michael M 
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Polytropon  wrote:

> On Fri, 2 Sep 2011 16:08:08 +0200, Michael M wrote:
> > Excuse my generic question, I should have asked:
> >
> > Can the group rw options for given partition destination be defined in
> fstab
> > upon mount?
>
> No. The access rights depend on the owner:group permissions
> of the mountpoint directory. The _act_ of mounting depends
> on the mounter's ownership of the corresponding device files.
>
> So in order to to only allow wheel group members to access
> a certain mount point for ug=rwx, the permissions of that
> mount point have to be set. This is done independently from
> what /etc/fstab is for (which controls the _act_ of mounting
> if all requirements - as mentioned above - are met).
>
> However, there _are_ options that can be included in fstab
> for applying a certain mask to files contained in a mounted
> directory, see -m and -M in "man mount_msdosfs" for example.
>
>
>
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Thanks for the info :)
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Re: Mount a ufs partition writable by group wheel?

2011-09-02 Thread Polytropon 
On Fri, 2 Sep 2011 16:08:08 +0200, Michael M wrote:
> Excuse my generic question, I should have asked:
> 
> Can the group rw options for given partition destination be defined in fstab
> upon mount?

No. The access rights depend on the owner:group permissions
of the mountpoint directory. The _act_ of mounting depends
on the mounter's ownership of the corresponding device files.

So in order to to only allow wheel group members to access
a certain mount point for ug=rwx, the permissions of that
mount point have to be set. This is done independently from
what /etc/fstab is for (which controls the _act_ of mounting
if all requirements - as mentioned above - are met).

However, there _are_ options that can be included in fstab
for applying a certain mask to files contained in a mounted
directory, see -m and -M in "man mount_msdosfs" for example.



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Re: Mount a ufs partition writable by group wheel?

2011-09-02 Thread Michael M 
Excuse my generic question, I should have asked:

Can the group rw options for given partition destination be defined in fstab
upon mount?

Thanks,
Michael M

On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 2:02 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote:

> > From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org  Fri Sep  2 06:30:22 2011
> > Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 13:01:58 +0200
> > From: Michael M 
> > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > Subject: Mount a ufs partition writable by group wheel?
> >
> > Is it possible to mount a ufs partition writable by group wheel?
>
> Of course.
>
> >   How
> would
> > the fstab entry look?
>
> just like any other fstab entry.
>
>
>
> It might be a good idea to explain exactly what you want to be able to do,
> first.
>
> When you just ask a question about the 'mechanics' of an operation with
> many possible interpretations, you'll get useless answers.  (see above :)
>
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Re: Mount a ufs partition writable by group wheel?

2011-09-02 Thread Robert Bonomi 
> From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org  Fri Sep  2 06:30:22 2011
> Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 13:01:58 +0200
> From: Michael M 
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Mount a ufs partition writable by group wheel?
>
> Is it possible to mount a ufs partition writable by group wheel?

Of course.  

>   How would
> the fstab entry look?

just like any other fstab entry.



It might be a good idea to explain exactly what you want to be able to do,
first.

When you just ask a question about the 'mechanics' of an operation with
many possible interpretations, you'll get useless answers.  (see above :)
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Re: Mount a ufs partition writable by group wheel?

2011-09-02 Thread Polytropon 
On Fri, 2 Sep 2011 13:01:58 +0200, Michael M wrote:
> Is it possible to mount a ufs partition writable by group wheel? 

It is. :-)



> How would
> the fstab entry look?

Maybe like this:

# Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass
# -  -  -  --  -
/dev/da0 /mnt   ufsrw  22

The mount point (directory /mnt in this example) has to be +w
for wheel, e. g.

# chown root:wheel /mnt
# chmod u=rwx,g=rwx,o=rx /mnt
# mount /mnt

That should be _nearly_ the default (FreeBSD/x86 8.2-STABLE here):

drwxr-xr-x   2 root  wheel  512 Feb 18  2011 mnt/
 ^
This is where you could use

# chmod g+w /mnt

to allow writes for members of the wheel group.

You may apply further restrictions (e. g. -rx for others) if needed),
and maybe "noauto" on the options field.

For mounting in general: The user issuing the mount command has
to have proper access to the device file (/dev/da0 in this example)
_and_ the target directory.



See "man mount" and "man fstab" for details.




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Re: Mount a ufs partition writable by group wheel?

2011-09-02 Thread Trond Endrestøl 
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On Fri, 2 Sep 2011 13:01+0200, Michael M wrote:

> Is it possible to mount a ufs partition writable by group wheel?  How would
> the fstab entry look?

It really depends on what you want to achieve.

If it's okay that the (local) root directory of said filesystem is 
(co-)owned by the wheel group, then:

mount /filesystem, run 
chgrp wheel /filesystem, and finally run
chmod g+w /filesystem

Maybe you should look into POSIX ACLs, etc if you are looking for 
something more advanced.


Trond.

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Mount a ufs partition writable by group wheel?

2011-09-02 Thread Michael M 
Is it possible to mount a ufs partition writable by group wheel?  How would
the fstab entry look?

Thanks,
Michael M
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Re: Alternative windowmanagers

2011-09-02 Thread Polytropon 
On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 03:43:12 -0400, Allen wrote:
> I don't know a lot about Gnome3, because a lot of my machines aren't
> very powerful by today's standards, and if what I read on RAM
> requirements was true, I won't be able to use it on any machine except
> this one anyway. I can't Believe how bad Gnome has become

All the "big ones" do "catch up" with the requirements of the
"Windows" versions they want to be "on par with", in order to
gain usage share. This sadly makes them unusable except you
are willing to regularly dismiss working hardware and buy
something new.

If you're machine is not "very powerful", you should look at
window managers primarily - those that manage windows _and
nothing more_. All additional functionality can be provided
by other programs that you can compose a desktop of, excatly
as you like it.

For example, if you want a Mac OS X like application launcher
and dock, there's a separate program for it. If you want
icons on the desktop, there's also a program for it. Need an
international clock? Get the one you like.

Just to have an impression, have a look at VirtualBSD:

http://www.virtualbsd.info/

You can see some screenshots here:

http://www.virtualbsd.info/screenshots/

This is also a "compositum" of different programs, nicely
arranged for for a unit that is much more efficient than the
"one huge size fits all" attitude that seems to be the driving
force behind KDE, Gnome, and maybe even Xfce.



> And KDE4,
> though very pretty, is another one I don't like.

To _me_, KDE always was a no-go as I had to invest too much
time to make it do what I need. Of course, for other users
it might fit perfectly well in the default configuration.



> If the people who work on Gnome are going to go
> Linux only, than, f them.

Gnome, and maybe also Xfce (for using the same Gtk infrastructures)
will _maybe_ turn into a Linux-centered project, and maybe eventually
become an own distribution. That is nothing bad per se, it just
means that using future Gnome on FreeBSD will be problematic, or
maybe even impossible. On theo other hand, concentrating on _one_
OS platform might give Gnome the boost that it needs for developing
better speed, better integration and better functionality, but only
if the Linux OS environment allows it to.



> I clumped those sections together, because I'd like to reply to
> basically all of it at once, so, here is MY Opinion:
> 
> I'm a little weird when it comes to Window Managers. I always have been.
> When I first started straying away from Windows, one of the things I
> really liked about Linux and BSD, was that I could basically make my
> desktop look however I wanted. I mean, I did use KDE quite a lot, but, I
> found myself logging out and back in a lot to try a new one out.

This is called _freedom_. :-)



> I'm basically a user of multiple versions of Linux, and then FreeBSD and
> PC-BSD (Which, really now, it's just FreeBSD with a paint job and a few
> custom apps, but it's still cool lol) and I Honestly couldn't pick a
> favorite Window Manager if I tried.

Please do not confuse KDE with a window manager. A window manager
is _part_ of KDE, which itself is a complete desktop environment.
Today, KDE is even more, it's a software compilation.



> I really couldn't I like being able to change how my Desktop looks,
> and I don't like being tied down to one Window Manager.

I've seen environments where some programmers did use different
window managers in parallel (on two or three workstations). One
of them had a dual-screen setup on one machine, running a tiling
window manager where he had his coding windows on. On a machine
next to it, he had something that looked like IceWM. On a third
machine, he did multimedia stuff in an environment that looked
like Mac OS X (but he told me it's a Linux system). The funny
thing: He did move between those different paradigms without
any problems. "Consistency? Hey man, I'm using over 50 different
programs here, why should I want them to look the same?!" :-)



> I'll be sitting
> here working on something, and, then, out of on where, I'll be like
> "Hmm, I feel like making this look different" and then I'll save my
> work, or stop what I'm doing, log out, select a different Window
> Manager, and log back in, and pick up where I left off.

A side note:

WindowMaker has the ability to keep your work, quit itself and launch
a different window manager. This is simple because the programs
that are currently running are not tied to the window manager,
which is also just a program. So for example, I can click on
the desktop or press the "Stop" key on my Sun keyboard, activate
the WM menu, and select Session - Start IceWM or Start Blackbox.
Windows lose their "management control elements", and IceWM
comes up, adding its decorations. From IceWM, I can then also
go back to WindowMaker.



> I have ADD
> pretty badly, so Unix in general has always worked well for me, as Unix
> / Linux / BSD, they all seem to

Re: ZFSv28+NFSv4 poor file creation performance, "sync=disabled" has no effect

2011-09-02 Thread Ivan Voras 

On 31/08/2011 23:45, David Brodbeck wrote:

I'm testing FreeBSD 9.0-BETA with an eye toward eventually using
FreeBSD 9.0 to replace some existing OpenSolaris 2008.11
installations.  I've found NFS file creation performance (as measured
by Bonnie++) is equally slow for both with default settings.  However,
on OpenSolaris I disable the ZIL to improve file creation performance.
  This tuning parameter was removed from FreeBSD 9.0; its replacement
is supposed to be the per-filesystem flag "sync", but setting this
flag seems to have no effect.

I did recompile the FreeBSD kernel without debugging features before
doing the tests, so I don't think this is a case of debugging code
slowing things down.

Here's the relevant data; these are all from bonnie++'s "sequential
create" benchmark.

OpenSolaris 2008.11, default settings: 58/second
OpenSolaris 2008.11, with "zil_disable=1": 1258/second

FreeBSD 9.0-BETA, default settings: 107/second
FreeBSD 9.0-BETA, with "sync=disabled": 106/second


It appears the "sync" ZFS parameter has no effect in FreeBSD.  Has
anyone else seen this?  Is there a way to improve NFS file creation
performance now that zil_disable has been removed?


Please report this to the freebsd-fs mailing list!

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Re[3]: vpn using pptpclient in FreeBSD

2011-09-02 Thread Marco Beishuizen 

On Fri, 2 Sep 2011, the wise Коньков Евгений wrote:


set iface route 130.115.0.0/16

you say that behind tunnele thereis 130.115.0.0/16 subnet, but
MB> [B1]   130.115.85.11 -> 130.115.3.35
you have address from subnet 130.115.0.0/16 addres on local machine
so you get this message:
MB> Loop detected on ng0

add routes only for subnets that on the other end of tunnel and not
local

set iface route 130.115.0.0/16


also you may remove  'iface route' from config. and setup tunnel.
after that try to ping the other end: ping 130.115.3.35
add route by hand:
# route add /X 130.115.3.35
# route add /Y 130.115.3.35


My local machine has ip 192.168.x.x. IP 130.115.x.x is the university 
network I want to connect to. When setting the "iface route" to 
192.168.0.0/16, the connection doesn't work either:

...
[B1] IPCP: state change Ack-Sent --> Opened
[B1] IPCP: LayerUp
[B1]   130.115.77.2 -> 130.115.3.34
[B1] IFACE: Add route 192.168.1.0/24 130.115.3.34 failed: File exists
[B1] IFACE: Up event
...

With the "iface route" removed, the other end 130.115.3.34 is not 
pingable, so there is no connection in this case.


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Re: wlan setup

2011-09-02 Thread Jakub Lach 
- FreeBSD 9 has latest wpa_supplicant.
- Try upgrading router's firmware.
- Try detailing wpa_supplicant.conf more.

eg. proto=
 pairwise=
 group=

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Re: wlan setup

2011-09-02 Thread Jakub Lach 
- launch dhclient manually

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Re: Tablet Digitizer

2011-09-02 Thread Open Slate Project 
Warren Block  wrote:

On Thu, 1 Sep 2011, Gary Dunn wrote:

> On Tue, 2011-08-30 at 12:55 -0600, Warren Block wrote:
>> On Mon, 29 Aug 2011, Gary Dunn wrote:
>>
>>> I have studied that and the source to what seems to be a driver,
>>> "fujitsu-usb-touchscreen."
>>
>> This may be what you already have:
>> http://spareinfo.blogspot.com/2010/10/linux-on-fujitsu-u810-p1620-t1010.html
>>
>> Whether it's trustworthy, compiles on FreeBSD, or works with xorg 7.5,
>> don't know.
>
> Yes, that is on the Ubuntu side, but I cannot make any sense of it on
> the FreeBSD side.
>
> I compared my Ubuntu Xorg.0.log with my FreeBSD Xorg.0.log. Quite
> different. Here is an interesting bit. Starting at an identical line,
> Ubuntu finds "Fujitsu Component USB Touch Panel" just before the
> keyboard, while FreeBSD goes straight to the keyboard. Is this
> significant?

Well, it's Linux's evdev, which is roughly similar to devd(8). Likely 
that can be ignored on FreeBSD by just using another InputDevice 
section. Beyond that, it might require input from the freebsd-x11 list 
and possibly also the freebsd-usb list. If the components are there, it 
may be as simple as an x11-drivers/xf86-input-fujitsu-usb-touchscreen 
port. Maybe one of the existing drivers there is for a relatively 
similar USB touchscreen?


Great tip. I had no idea those drivers were there. I will check them and if I 
need more help I'll ask one of the groups you mentioned.

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Re: Alternative windowmanagers

2011-09-02 Thread Allen 
Apologies to anyone this message appears weird to up front; I'm doing
some work on my Windows 7 Partition, and though I'm going to try and
make sure this isn't a crappy email message, we all know how Windows can
be. I've made sure it's plain text and all but if this appears weird to
anyone, I'm sorry, but I have to be on Windows 7 until I finish up. Now,
on to my reply :)

On 8/5/2011 4:15 PM, Chris Brennan wrote:
> On 8/5/2011 3:12 PM, Christian Barthel wrote:
>> Hello, 
>>
>> I read on slashdot that Linus Torvalds moved from Gnome 2.3x to Xfce. It
>> seems that he isn't thrilled by xfce, but it's far better than Gnome3. 

I don't know a lot about Gnome3, because a lot of my machines aren't
very powerful by today's standards, and if what I read on RAM
requirements was true, I won't be able to use it on any machine except
this one anyway. I can't Believe how bad Gnome has become And KDE4,
though very pretty, is another one I don't like. I usually install KDE3
on BSD for when I want to use KDE as I like 3 better.

>> As a Gnome 2.3x user too, I am also a bit nervouse. Gnome 3 is a big
>> mistake. And there are also rumors that Gnome will be Linux only. Maybe,
>> we will never see Gnome3 under FreeBSD, but this is not a tragedy :)

I also heard about that. If the people who work on Gnome are going to go
Linux only, than, f them. I use Linux, and I like it, but I also like
FreeBSD and PC-BSD. And for them to make a statement like that, they
might as well piss on their userbase at the same time. That's a huge
mistake. I agree with what you say about Gnome3.

>> I am not very interested in eyecandy: I want a stable and fast wm (less
>> memory and cpu, quick access to important places), different workspaces,
>> and it should be configurable with ordinary files. Of course, It must
>> run under FreeBSD. I sniffed into AfterStep, fvwm2 and fluxbox (I don't want 
>> to use KDE). I
>> think, fluxbox is a nice wm and for my future, it will be the default wm
>> for me. It's also very fast and easy to configure. 
>> Are there any other window manager worth looking? 
>> What is your window manager? 

I clumped those sections together, because I'd like to reply to
basically all of it at once, so, here is MY Opinion:

I'm a little weird when it comes to Window Managers. I always have been.
When I first started straying away from Windows, one of the things I
really liked about Linux and BSD, was that I could basically make my
desktop look however I wanted. I mean, I did use KDE quite a lot, but, I
found myself logging out and back in a lot to try a new one out.

I'm basically a user of multiple versions of Linux, and then FreeBSD and
PC-BSD (Which, really now, it's just FreeBSD with a paint job and a few
custom apps, but it's still cool lol) and I Honestly couldn't pick a
favorite Window Manager if I tried.

I really couldn't I like being able to change how my Desktop looks,
and I don't like being tied down to one Window Manager. I'll be sitting
here working on something, and, then, out of on where, I'll be like
"Hmm, I feel like making this look different" and then I'll save my
work, or stop what I'm doing, log out, select a different Window
Manager, and log back in, and pick up where I left off. I have ADD
pretty badly, so Unix in general has always worked well for me, as Unix
/ Linux / BSD, they all seem to have that magical ability to use any
Window Manager you want, and I like that a lot.

Even though I said I couldn't pick a favorite even if I tried, I DO have
a list of them that I use the most, and that I personally like the most,
so, I'll give you the names of some of them, and, maybe it'll help you
out :)

Now, as I said before; I do like KDE, and I also like Gnome, but from
what I understand, those are "Desktop Environments" and not Window
Managers in the true sense of the word. I don't really care a whole lot
about that, as it's nit picking to me lol, but here are the others I do
Love:

Window Maker. I LOVE Window Maker. It's nice looking, it fast, and it
has a lot of nice themes I saved, since, well, you can't seem to ever
find any of them anymore, except for that one web site where the guy has
like 10 or so of them that are like space and stuff, which I'm not into.
So, I grabbed my SUSE Linux 8.1 and 8.2 Professional DVDs, popped them
in a machine, and copied over the Window Maker themes those versions of
SUSE came with, as they are WAY nicer. So, once I did that, I opened up
the RPMs, and grabbed all the themes. So now I have them for any Linux
or BSD I use.

Window Maker in general is cool, and, it can look REALLY nice. And, it's
very simply. It also doesn't use up all your Resources which is a huge
plus as well.

FVWM - I'll lump FVWM, FVWM2, and FVWM-Crystal all in one here, and just
say I really like those too. I've used all of those, and also FVWM95,
but I didn't like 95 as much as the other ones. Again, these are very
fast, look cool, and use very little in resources.

I'd like to figure out one