Re: much to my surprise....
On 23/09/2011 01:08, Frank Shute wrote: > I had to use them because my static IP all of a sudden became dynamic > (crappy ISP). Now it seems to have gone back to static again. There are much better ISPs in the UK -- usually the smaller ones give you much better service. You can get a /28 fixed block as part of a standard package if you shop around. > I certainly wouldn't consider running my own DNS server (having done > it). It's more trouble than it's worth and is just one more > vulnerability/thing to go wrong. You can just use hosts for a small > network. Not my experience. Running my own DNS is simple and trouble free, plus it gives me much more scope to play with things like DNSSEC. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matt...@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: load average with multi-core CPU's
On 9/22/11 10:59 PM, Rodrigo Gonzalez wrote: > On 09/22/2011 04:29 PM, Mark Felder wrote: >> On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 10:22:43 -0500, Henry M wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Can someone explain, or point me to correct documentation on what the >>> load >>> average on top/uptime is actually displaying? >> >> Load average is "average number of processes in the run queue" for the >> 1, 5, and 15 minute intervals. If you have a quad core CPU a 4.00 load >> average means you've been keeping the CPU busy at 100%. > Not exactly as I understand itIO (disk, network or whatever) affects > it too... > It is the number of task waiting in queue to be runbut IO is > important...if 2 processes are waiting for IO and it is completely > saturated they will be kept in queue so load will get higher > I think there are other things that affect load average but are over my > current knowledge... > > Regards > > Rodrigo Gonzalez Actually, I could be wrong but that is the number of tasks both in the waiting *AND* the running queue. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: load average with multi-core CPU's
On 9/22/11 10:34 PM, Henry M wrote: > Thanks- That's what I thought it was. I'm trying to settle an argument at > work : ) > http://xkcd.com/386/ Enjoy ;) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
SV: much to my surprise....
-Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] På vegne af Robert Bonomi Sendt: den 22 september 2011 22:15 Til: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; kl...@thought.org Emne: Re: much to my surprise > From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Thu Sep 22 14:30:49 2011 > Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 12:30:54 -0700 > From: Gary Kline > To: FreeBSD Mailing List > Cc: > Subject: much to my surprise > > > guys, > > well, after a forced, unexpected, and emergency 5 days away, i got > back to my desk and could not ping. while mail seemed to be working, > and my *local* ping worked---I could ping around from my freebsd server > to my other computers--i spent 3+ hours trying to ping various > sites. Zero. i tried everything i could think of. NOTHING worked. > i tried the -d -f -f to named and on and on and on. nothing. > > *Finally*, i saw that my telco router was displaying "INT" in red > LED's. i didn't know they displayed in any other color but the > default green, but after power-cycling, voila! back to green. > and now, yes, i can ping freebsd.org. and i'm pretty sure other > network things will work too. > > from any/all sysadmin types or others:: > i would like tricks, tips, insights--whatever--about named and > whatever else. i thought i had collected many. nope.i've got > bind 9.8 installed and it was working fine until my recent > 'vacation.' Other than checking one's routers (hub/switch), and other > hardware (including server, computers, cables, etc) does anybody have a > checklist of what to do to diagnose this? are there any other > utilities i can try besides ping and named -d 3 -f -g? other > network utilities with a debug flag? i'm running 7.3 on a dell 530. > > tia for any insights, You should _really_ consider hiring a professional to maintain your systems. Diagnosing _this_ problem should have taken no more than about 30 *seconds*. If you can't get somewhere 'by name', you try to get there 'by address'. If 'by address' works and 'by name' doesn't, *that* is the indication of a DNS problem. If you can't get there 'by address', it is *NOT* a DNS problem, and you start looking for a 'connectivity' problem. The *BASIC* tools for that start with 'traceroute'. Which would have *immediately* (well, within abut ten seconds :) indicated exactly _where_ the problem was. Those who don't understand these kind dof things are "too dangerous" to be trusted with the superuser password. Bluntly, not only do you not know the things you need to know to manage a (even 'personal') network, you "DON'T KNOW _what_ you don't know", and until you *do* learn the basics, you'll save youself a *LOT* of hair- tearing if you hire someone to solve the problems for you. And miss all the fun by learning by doing :-) /hasse ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: load average with multi-core CPU's
> From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Fri Sep 23 03:15:37 2011 > Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 10:12:51 +0200 > From: Damien Fleuriot > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: load average with multi-core CPU's > > On 9/22/11 10:59 PM, Rodrigo Gonzalez wrote: > > On 09/22/2011 04:29 PM, Mark Felder wrote: > >> On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 10:22:43 -0500, Henry M wrote: > >> > >>> Hi all, > >>> > >>> Can someone explain, or point me to correct documentation on what the > >>> load > >>> average on top/uptime is actually displaying? > >> > >> Load average is "average number of processes in the run queue" for the > >> 1, 5, and 15 minute intervals. If you have a quad core CPU a 4.00 load > >> average means you've been keeping the CPU busy at 100%. > > Not exactly as I understand itIO (disk, network or whatever) affects > > it too... > > It is the number of task waiting in queue to be runbut IO is > > important...if 2 processes are waiting for IO and it is completely > > saturated they will be kept in queue so load will get higher > > I think there are other things that affect load average but are over my > > current knowledge... > > > > Regards > > > > Rodrigo Gonzalez > > Actually, I could be wrong but that is the number of tasks both in the > waiting *AND* the running queue. It is the average of the number of 'runnable' processes -- those that are actually running (which is -- obviously! -- limited to the number of logical cpu's present) and those that are -- in _all_ other respects -- 'ready' to be run. This list of processes -- 'running' and 'runnable -- is known as the 'run queue'. The cpu 'scheduler' allocated cpu time slots between the processes in the 'run queueu', _only_. Anything -not- in the 'run queue' is not eligible for a slice of cpu time -- because it "can't" use cpu time, if it were to be offered, because it is 'waiting' on something else. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
SV: much to my surprise....
-Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] På vegne af Gary Kline Sendt: den 23 september 2011 03:31 Til: Ryan Coleman Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Robert Bonomi Emne: Re: much to my surprise On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 04:28:50PM -0500, Ryan Coleman wrote: > Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 16:28:50 -0500 > From: Ryan Coleman > Subject: Re: much to my surprise > To: Robert Bonomi > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, kl...@thought.org > X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1244.3) > > > On Sep 22, 2011, at 3:14 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote: > > >> From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Thu Sep 22 14:30:49 2011 > >> Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 12:30:54 -0700 > >> From: Gary Kline > >> To: FreeBSD Mailing List > >> Cc: > >> Subject: much to my surprise > >> > >> > >> guys, > >> > >> well, after a forced, unexpected, and emergency 5 days away, i got > >> back to my desk and could not ping. while mail seemed to be working, > >> and my *local* ping worked---I could ping around from my freebsd server > >> to my other computers--i spent 3+ hours trying to ping various > >> sites. Zero. i tried everything i could think of. NOTHING worked. > >> i tried the -d -f -f to named and on and on and on. nothing. > >> > >> *Finally*, i saw that my telco router was displaying "INT" in red > >> LED's. i didn't know they displayed in any other color but the > >> default green, but after power-cycling, voila! back to green. > >> and now, yes, i can ping freebsd.org. and i'm pretty sure other > >> network things will work too. > >> > >> from any/all sysadmin types or others:: > >> i would like tricks, tips, insights--whatever--about named and > >> whatever else. i thought i had collected many. nope.i've got > >> bind 9.8 installed and it was working fine until my recent > >> 'vacation.' Other than checking one's routers (hub/switch), and other > >> hardware (including server, computers, cables, etc) does anybody have a > >> checklist of what to do to diagnose this? are there any other > >> utilities i can try besides ping and named -d 3 -f -g? other > >> network utilities with a debug flag? i'm running 7.3 on a dell 530. > >> > >> tia for any insights, > > > > You should _really_ consider hiring a professional to maintain your > > systems. > > > > Diagnosing _this_ problem should have taken no more than about 30 > > *seconds*. > > > > If you can't get somewhere 'by name', you try to get there 'by address'. > > > > If 'by address' works and 'by name' doesn't, *that* is the indication of > > a DNS problem. > > > > If you can't get there 'by address', it is *NOT* a DNS problem, and you > > start looking for a 'connectivity' problem. points all well taken, robert, thanks. i was ready to fire off a few shots of my colt bisley 454, then took two deep breaths and soldiered on. [note that at least one other fellow has suggested that i just hire somebody to maintain my connectivity.] but i've been doing this for a while, and until i was away for five days, everything had been going fine for over a month. oh:: one power-out. the UPS saved the server, but everything else needed to be reinitialized. > > > > The *BASIC* tools for that start with 'traceroute'. Which would have > > *immediately* (well, within abut ten seconds :) indicated exactly _where_ > > the problem was. would traceroute have told me to check the "modem"/router? > > > > Those who don't understand these kind dof things are "too dangerous" > > to be trusted with the superuser password. > > > > Bluntly, not only do you not know the things you need to know to manage > > a (even 'personal') network, you "DON'T KNOW _what_ you don't know", and > > until you *do* learn the basics, you'll save youself a *LOT* of hair- > > tearing if you hire someone to solve the problems for you. > > I whole-heartedly agree with Robert's points. > > I host in my apartment... but I have more than a decade's experience maintaining networks and systems and, while the occasional issue stumps me, I'm pretty good at getting to the root of issues in minutes vs hours. would you believe: i'm slow at typing, ? > > Yes, I was once a... for lack of a better term... moron on these things and I relied heavily on the tech who pushed me (gently) towards ?BSD from RHL and I am gracious every day for that nudge. > i've used REAL UNIX [[$1100] for SVR4; and before than VAT, a 286 version of SVR2; then chose FreeBSD with 2.0.5. things started out as a dialup BBS and evolved since july '86 system administration is something i do reluctantly. adding system calls to the tera kernel plus other kernel work on the the hardware version of a 128-stream CPU seemed infinitely easier than this > Experience is the best way to pick up the "quick list"
Re: 9.0 bsdinstall usage
On 09/23/11 04:09, Fbsd8 wrote: I have installed 9.0 bata2 from cd and the net. In both cases after the completion of the install and rebooting, the bsdinstall scripts still remain on the new installed system. If I interpret the code logic correctly, bsdinstall can ONLY be used for an original install. It's not intended by design to be used any other time, unlike sysinstall. I think the "auto" script should have code added to remove all traces of the bsdinstall environment at the conclusion of the install. This way bsdinstall fulfills the original design goals and guarantees no one can exec it by accident and kill there running system. It's quite useful after install time for installing new systems (e.g. jails). It also uses approximately zero disk space. -Nathan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Overwrite bsd tar
Dear all, I tried installing GridFTP on Freebsd, had errors which a user group said is due to bsd tar and I downloaded and installed Gnu tar which is required but the command 'tar --version' still show bsd tar as the default. Tried using package and encountered error as shown below. [prom@pcbsd-2112] ~> tar --version bsdtar 2.7.0 - libarchive 2.7.0 [prom@pcbsd-2112] ~> su Password: [prom@pcbsd-2112] /home/prom# pkg_add -r tar Error: Unable to get ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-8.1-release/Latest/tar.tbz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) pkg_add: unable to fetch 'ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-8.1-release/Latest/tar.tbz' by URL I would be grateful if anyone could help me out on how to overwrite bsd tar with Gnu tar. Best Regards, Morp. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: much to my surprise.... [ now trending #OT ]
From: "Matt Emmerton" > > > > but i've been doing this for a while, and > > until i was away for five days, everything had been going > > fine for over a month. oh:: one power-out. the UPS saved > > the server, but everything else needed to be reinitialized. > > A lesson that I learned many years ago - if you can afford a "big" UPS > for your servers, you can afford a "little" one for your telco/network > equipment. > I'm using some PoE kit to power the router remotely down it's LAN cable, that in turn run's from the protected supply from the UPS. Said UPS also powers the main network switch, as well as my own LAN server (f'BSD based, to stay vaguely on toppic!) Plus two other PC's and a NAS device. It'll hold that lot up, for over 20 minutes when the lights go out (the longest unscheduled outage so far.) It's also configured to NOT come back, if it runs down and cuts out. I'll do that manually if needed. (Not so far.) I never did get the BSD port of APCUPSD to work correctly. All works well. Also, easy to do a router "Hard" restart, without going to the router itself. And if it does all die, it fails safe. Regards. Dave B. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Overwrite bsd tar
2011-09-23 13:25, Esimorp E skrev: I would be grateful if anyone could help me out on how to overwrite bsd tar with Gnu tar. Thats not a good idea. If you want to use gnu tar then gtar is the command for you. Or copy tar to tar.bsd and make a symlink tar > gtar. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Overwrite bsd tar
On 9/23/11 2:04 PM, Bernt Hansson wrote: > 2011-09-23 13:25, Esimorp E skrev: >> >> I would be grateful if anyone could help me out on how to overwrite >> bsd tar with Gnu tar. > > Thats not a good idea. If you want to use gnu tar then gtar is the > command for you. Or copy tar to tar.bsd and make a symlink tar > gtar. Even worse, what's going to happen when some BSD specific software tries to pass BSD specific options to gnutar ? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Overwrite bsd tar
On 9/23/11 1:25 PM, Esimorp E wrote: > Dear all, > > I tried installing GridFTP on Freebsd, had errors which a user group said is > due to bsd tar and I downloaded and installed Gnu tar which is required but > the command 'tar --version' still show bsd tar as the default. Tried using > package and encountered error as shown below. > > [prom@pcbsd-2112] ~> tar --version > bsdtar 2.7.0 - libarchive 2.7.0 > [prom@pcbsd-2112] ~> su > Password: > [prom@pcbsd-2112] /home/prom# pkg_add -r tar > Error: Unable to get > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-8.1-release/Latest/tar.tbz: > File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) > pkg_add: unable to fetch > 'ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-8.1-release/Latest/tar.tbz' > by URL > > I would be grateful if anyone could help me out on how to overwrite bsd tar > with Gnu tar. > Keep in mind that when you install a package or port, it installs to /usr/local/bin or /usr/local/sbin , not /usr/bin or /bin # ls -la /usr/bin/tar lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 6 Feb 21 2011 /usr/bin/tar -> bsdtar -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 62848 Feb 21 2011 /usr/bin/bsdtar # ls -la /usr/local/bin/gtar -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 373664 Sep 23 14:10 /usr/local/bin/gtar ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
sendmail : savemail panic : cannot save rejected email anywhere
I have 6 servers. As far as I can see I've identical sendmail configuration on all of them. However, one server gives me these errors: Sep 23 13:53:12 mech-aslap239 sm-msp-queue[33721]: starting daemon (8.14.5): queueing@00:30:00 Sep 23 13:53:12 mech-aslap239 sm-mta[33723]: starting daemon (8.14.5): SMTP+queueing@00:30:00 Sep 23 13:56:38 mech-aslap239 sendmail[33772]: p8NCuc1q033772: from=root, size=41, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=<201109231256.p8ncuc1q033...@mech-aslap239.men.bris.ac.uk>, relay=root@localhost Sep 23 13:56:38 mech-aslap239 sm-mta[33773]: p8NCucYT033773: from=, size=400, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=<201109231256.p8ncuc1q033...@mech-aslap239.men.bris.ac.uk>, proto=ESMTP, daemon=Daemon0, relay=localhost [127.0.0.1] Sep 23 13:56:38 mech-aslap239 sendmail[33772]: p8NCuc1q033772: to=me...@bris.ac.uk, ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=30041, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (p8NCucYT033773 Message accepted for delivery) Sep 23 13:56:38 mech-aslap239 sm-mta[33775]: STARTTLS=client, relay=smtp-auth.bris.ac.uk., version=TLSv1/SSLv3, verify=FAIL, cipher=AES256-SHA, bits=256/256 Sep 23 13:56:38 mech-aslap239 sm-mta[33775]: p8NCucYT033773: to=, ctladdr= (0/0), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=30400, relay=smtp-auth.bris.ac.uk. [137.222.10.92], dsn=5.1.1, stat=User unknown Sep 23 13:56:38 mech-aslap239 sm-mta[33775]: p8NCucYT033773: p8NCucYT033775: DSN: User unknown Sep 23 13:56:38 mech-aslap239 sm-mta[33775]: p8NCucYT033775: to=me...@bris.ac.uk, delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=31424, relay=smtp-auth.bris.ac.uk. [137.222.10.92], dsn=5.1.1, stat=User unknown Sep 23 13:56:38 mech-aslap239 sm-mta[33775]: p8NCucYT033775: p8NCucYU033775: return to sender: User unknown Sep 23 13:56:38 mech-aslap239 sm-mta[33775]: p8NCucYU033775: to=me...@bris.ac.uk, delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=32448, relay=smtp-auth.bris.ac.uk. [137.222.10.92], dsn=5.1.1, stat=User unknown Sep 23 13:56:38 mech-aslap239 sm-mta[33775]: p8NCucYT033775: Losing ./qfp8NCucYT033775: savemail panic Sep 23 13:56:38 mech-aslap239 sm-mta[33775]: p8NCucYT033775: SYSERR(root): savemail: cannot save rejected email anywhere so that I cannot send any mail from it. I've read this: http://www.brandonhutchinson.com/savemail_panic_in_Sendmail.html but it doesn't seem to apply. I get: mech-aslap239# sendmail -bv postmaster me...@bris.ac.uk... deliverable: mailer relay, host smtp-auth.bris.ac.uk, user me...@bris.ac.uk mech-aslap239# sendmail -bv MAILER-DAEMON me...@bris.ac.uk... deliverable: mailer relay, host smtp-auth.bris.ac.uk, user me...@bris.ac.uk mech-aslap239# yet the mail is not being delivered: mech-aslap239# mailq -qL /var/spool/mqueue (4 requests) -Q-ID- --Size-- -Q-Time- Sender/Recipient--- p8NCucYT033775?2139 Fri Sep 23 13:56 MAILER-DAEMON me...@bris.ac.uk p8NCeJwI018745?2140 Fri Sep 23 13:40 MAILER-DAEMON me...@bris.ac.uk p8NC7JxU017395?2279 Fri Sep 23 13:07 MAILER-DAEMON me...@bris.ac.uk o9KFDfaV001093?2224 Wed Oct 20 16:13 MAILER-DAEMON me...@bris.ac.uk Total requests: 4 mech-aslap239# What else could be wrong? Many thanks Anton -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: 9.0 bsdinstall usage
Nathan Whitehorn wrote: On 09/23/11 04:09, Fbsd8 wrote: I have installed 9.0 bata2 from cd and the net. In both cases after the completion of the install and rebooting, the bsdinstall scripts still remain on the new installed system. If I interpret the code logic correctly, bsdinstall can ONLY be used for an original install. It's not intended by design to be used any other time, unlike sysinstall. I think the "auto" script should have code added to remove all traces of the bsdinstall environment at the conclusion of the install. This way bsdinstall fulfills the original design goals and guarantees no one can exec it by accident and kill there running system. It's quite useful after install time for installing new systems (e.g. jails). It also uses approximately zero disk space. -Nathan bsdinstall/auto logic falls down through the partition hard drive logic with no way to bypass it. It will look for free space on the H.D. you booted from and issue message about no free space, ask you if you want to try another drive and then use the booted drive as target to redo the partitioning again thus scratching your running system. In the normal sense there is no way bsdinstall can be used to create jails. A jail does not occupies a whole H.D nor do you boot a jail as a standalone host. The qjail port is there for the purpose of creating and administration of jails. Its not a question of how much space bsdinstall occupies on the H.D. after the original install. Its that some poor soul may try to use it and trash there newly installed running system by accident. And if there were multiple os's on that H.D. there all gone in a heart beat. We have to protect the poor user from them selfs doing stupid things. As I understand it bsdinstall is a replacement for sysinstall. Sysinstall tried to be everything to everybody and turned into a can of worms. There is nothing wrong about limiting bsdinstall to a roll of "original installs" only. KISS These 2 statements should be added at the end of bsdinstall/auto to complete the clean up of the install process. rm /usr/sbin/bsdinstall rm -rf /usr/libexec/bsdinstall Another benefit of doing this is it will no longer be necessary to create man pages for bsdinstall. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: 9.0 bsdinstall usage
Daniel O'Connor wrote: On 23/09/2011, at 11:39, Fbsd8 wrote: I have installed 9.0 bata2 from cd and the net. >>In both cases after the completion of the install and rebooting, the bsdinstall >>scripts still remain on the new installed system. If I interpret the code logic correctly, >>bsdinstall can ONLY be used for an original install. It's not intended by design to be >>used any other time, unlike sysinstall. I think the "auto" script should have code added >>to remove all traces of the bsdinstall environment at the conclusion of the install. >>This way bsdinstall fulfills the original design goals and guarantees no one can exec >>it by accident and kill there running system. The binary is installed by default, but there it isn't run at startup. If it is being run then I would expect you are booting off your install media again by accident. -- Daniel O'Connor You did not read my post correctly. I dont say bsdinstall is run every time I boot. I said "the bsdinstall scripts still remain on the new installed system." The point I was making is it should not remain. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: 9.0 bsdinstall usage
Adrian Chadd wrote: On 23 September 2011 10:09, Fbsd8 wrote: I have installed 9.0 bata2 from cd and the net. In both cases after the completion of the install and rebooting, the bsdinstall scripts still remain on the new installed system. If I interpret the code logic correctly, bsdinstall can ONLY be used for an original install. It's not intended by design to be used any other time, unlike sysinstall. I think the "auto" script should have code added to remove all traces of the bsdinstall environment at the conclusion of the install. This way bsdinstall fulfills the original design goals and guarantees no one can exec it by accident and kill there running system. Have you thought about filing PRs for your installer suggestions, just so they don't get lost? I've just filed a bsdinstaller PR for a wifi config bug; I'm likely going to file a few more PRs based on my interaction with the installer. Thanks, Adrian Yes I have been submitting PR's. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: 9.0 bsdinstall usage
On 23/09/2011, at 23:03, Fbsd8 wrote: >> The binary is installed by default, but there it isn't run at startup. >> If it is being run then I would expect you are booting off your install >> media again by accident. >> -- >> Daniel O'Connor > > You did not read my post correctly. I dont say bsdinstall is run every time I > boot. I said "the bsdinstall scripts still remain on the new installed > system." The point I was making is it should not remain. I think that is pretty debatable, you could certainly use them to install onto a new disk - say you had a machine you couldn't boot the install media off so you put the disk in your PC. Also, it should be very difficult to destroy your installed setup while you're actually booted into it because GEOM will prevent partition changes to mounted disks. -- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum GPG Fingerprint - 5596 B766 97C0 0E94 4347 295E E593 DC20 7B3F CE8C ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Overwrite bsd tar
2011-09-23 14:07, Damien Fleuriot skrev: On 9/23/11 2:04 PM, Bernt Hansson wrote: 2011-09-23 13:25, Esimorp E skrev: I would be grateful if anyone could help me out on how to overwrite bsd tar with Gnu tar. Thats not a good idea. If you want to use gnu tar then gtar is the command for you. Or copy tar to tar.bsd and make a symlink tar> gtar. Even worse, what's going to happen when some BSD specific software tries to pass BSD specific options to gnutar ? A lot of unexpected things, that's the reason I wrote it wasn't a good idea. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Support for "Brother" products
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 7:19 PM, Carmel wrote: > I just got a reply back from a representative from Brother [...] > Therefore, if anyone is interested in contacting him, this is the > e-mail address: > Someone had brought up issues about Brother devices, I believe it was Jerry. > -- > Carmel ✌ > carmel...@hotmail.com > > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: 9.0 bsdinstall usage
On Fri, September 23, 2011 9:23 am, Fbsd8 wrote: > These 2 statements should be added at the end of bsdinstall/auto to > complete the clean up of the install process. > > rm /usr/sbin/bsdinstall > rm -rf /usr/libexec/bsdinstall > > Another benefit of doing this is it will no longer be necessary to > create man pages for bsdinstall. On the other hand, that makes it harder for someone to look at the program to see what it does, in order to build or rebuild their own installer, or to customize the actions of this one. I don't see a cost to keeping the program around. There are probably some slight use cases for it, and there are some slight costs to removing it. It doesn't have to be everything to everybody: It can be itself, nothing more and nothing less. I guess I just don't see the problem with keeping it. Daniel T. Staal --- This email copyright the author. Unless otherwise noted, you are expressly allowed to retransmit, quote, or otherwise use the contents for non-commercial purposes. This copyright will expire 5 years after the author's death, or in 30 years, whichever is longer, unless such a period is in excess of local copyright law. --- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: 9.0 bsdinstall usage
On 09/23/2011 09:01, Daniel Staal wrote: On the other hand, that makes it harder for someone to look at the program to see what it does, in order to build or rebuild their own installer, or to customize the actions of this one. I don't see a cost to keeping the program around. There are probably some slight use cases for it, and there are some slight costs to removing it. It doesn't have to be everything to everybody: It can be itself, nothing more and nothing less. I guess I just don't see the problem with keeping it. I agree. If we're concerned about someone running the program again by accident then the following can be placed at the end of bsdinstall/auto: chmod -x /usr/sbin/bsdinstall The man page then can specify that the executable bit is off by default, why it is off by default, and possibly specify the command to turn it on again. - David -- David Romano .:. un...@cpan.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Overwrite bsd tar
Hi Bernt, Thank you for your reply. I had similar concern as well but I really needed the globus toolkit and wouldn't mind if its the only that works on the system. --- On Fri, 9/23/11, Bernt Hansson wrote: From: Bernt Hansson Subject: Re: Overwrite bsd tar To: "Damien Fleuriot" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Friday, September 23, 2011, 1:58 PM 2011-09-23 14:07, Damien Fleuriot skrev: > On 9/23/11 2:04 PM, Bernt Hansson wrote: >> 2011-09-23 13:25, Esimorp E skrev: >>> >>> I would be grateful if anyone could help me out on how to overwrite >>> bsd tar with Gnu tar. >> >> Thats not a good idea. If you want to use gnu tar then gtar is the >> command for you. Or copy tar to tar.bsd and make a symlink tar> gtar. > > > Even worse, what's going to happen when some BSD specific software tries > to pass BSD specific options to gnutar ? A lot of unexpected things, that's the reason I wrote it wasn't a good idea. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Overwrite bsd tar
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Esimorp E wrote: > Hi Bernt, > > Thank you for your reply. I had similar concern as well but I really needed > the globus toolkit and wouldn't mind if its the only that works on the > system. > > Please don't top post. See the mailing list expectations. As for your problem, perhaps you should learn the ports system to see how other packages with this dependency are dealt with instead of trying to do a a very poor hack that will result in further problems. -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Overwrite bsd tar
Hi, Damien, Thank you for your timely response. I tried your instruction but encountered an error which I think is due the initial errors I had as a result gtar that couldn't install as either source or package. [prom@pcbsd-2112] ~> su Password: [prom@pcbsd-2112] /home/prom# ls -la /usr/bin/tar lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 6 Jul 18 2010 /usr/bin/tar -> bsdtar [prom@pcbsd-2112] /home/prom# ls -la /usr/local/bin/gtar ls: /usr/local/bin/gtar: No such file or directory [prom@pcbsd-2112] /home/prom# Please, what would the best way to resolve this problem? --- On Fri, 9/23/11, Damien Fleuriot wrote: From: Damien Fleuriot Subject: Re: Overwrite bsd tar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Friday, September 23, 2011, 12:11 PM On 9/23/11 1:25 PM, Esimorp E wrote: > Dear all, > > I tried installing GridFTP on Freebsd, had errors which a user group said is > due to bsd tar and I downloaded and installed Gnu tar which is required but > the command 'tar --version' still show bsd tar as the default. Tried using > package and encountered error as shown below. > > [prom@pcbsd-2112] ~> tar --version > bsdtar 2.7.0 - libarchive 2.7.0 > [prom@pcbsd-2112] ~> su > Password: > [prom@pcbsd-2112] /home/prom# pkg_add -r tar > Error: Unable to get > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-8.1-release/Latest/tar.tbz: > File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) > pkg_add: unable to fetch > 'ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-8.1-release/Latest/tar.tbz' > by URL > > I would be grateful if anyone could help me out on how to overwrite bsd tar > with Gnu tar. > Keep in mind that when you install a package or port, it installs to /usr/local/bin or /usr/local/sbin , not /usr/bin or /bin # ls -la /usr/bin/tar lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 6 Feb 21 2011 /usr/bin/tar -> bsdtar -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 62848 Feb 21 2011 /usr/bin/bsdtar # ls -la /usr/local/bin/gtar -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 373664 Sep 23 14:10 /usr/local/bin/gtar ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Overwrite bsd tar
In the last episode (Sep 23), Esimorp E said: > Hi Bernt, > > Thank you for your reply. I had similar concern as well but I really > needed the globus toolkit and wouldn't mind if its the only that works on > the system. You never actaully said what the problem was. If it's a bug in bsdtar, I'm sure it could get fixed quickly given a sample tarfile. -- Dan Nelson dnel...@allantgroup.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: 9.0 bata2 & keymap
On Sat, 2011-09-17 at 12:24 -0400, Fbsd8 wrote: > Changing the cancel button in the kbdmap command to skip, does not > address the problem, which is the lack of knowledge of the standard > bsdinstall user. I've been using Freebsd since 4.0 and never used the > kbdmap command or for that matter even knew it existed. Interesting. Sysinstall has asked for country information and then asked you to choose a keymap (using kbdmap) if you selected a non-default country as the first two questions (i.e. before you get the sysinstall menu) since 6.1. Would that be a good solution still? Some of the other points brought up later about wanting to switch between two different keymaps seem sensible too, though I don't initially see how that would be possible. Gavin -- Gavin Atkinson FreeBSD committer and bugmeister GPG: A093262B (313A A79F 697D 3A5C 216A EDF5 935D EF44 A093 262B) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: much to my surprise.... [ now trending #OT ]
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 10:48:09PM -0400, Matt Emmerton wrote: > Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 22:48:09 -0400 > From: Matt Emmerton > Subject: RE: much to my surprise [ now trending #OT ] > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 > > >> >> *Finally*, i saw that my telco router was displaying "INT" in red > >> >> LED's. i didn't know they displayed in any other color but the > >> >> default green, but after power-cycling, voila! back to green. > >> >> and now, yes, i can ping freebsd.org. and i'm pretty sure other > >> >> network things will work too. > > The Mark I eyeball is an amazing tool. well, cant be sure, but my router is q1000. [?] > > I recently had a HDSL link provided by my telco go down. I happened to be 2 > hours away from the facility at the time. Tech support said the problem was > the router because they couldn't get to it, and they just wouldn't believe > me that it was up. (I could ping it from the "inside" via the secondary > network connection.) So after I drove to the facility, I noticed that the > HDSL modem (which is line-powered from some box on the street) had no > lights. Ahah! 28 hours later (sigh) they found a blown circuit breaker > somewhere. AH! one thin i have has problems with over the years is cars hitting power poles somewhere and that knocks me off. After last time i put everything thru my highend surge protecter. EVERYTHING was live. i had never [not once in ten years] had the "Internet" flow go south. mine has been green. i saw that all LED's were lit and never thought to see if the lights were all-green or not! live and learn. so, along with "check routers/switches; maybe power cycle" i have use named debug, use traceroute. > > > > > but i've been doing this for a while, and > > until i was away for five days, everything had been going > > fine for over a month. oh:: one power-out. the UPS saved > > the server, but everything else needed to be reinitialized. > > A lesson that I learned many years ago - if you can afford a "big" UPS for > your servers, you can afford a "little" one for your telco/network > equipment. such as? brand, model? would it work to just plug my surge protecto into my larger UPS? ---yes, that wouldn't save me from as glitch in this telco router. but since the APC UPC has its own surge filter, i'm thinking, why not/? gary > > -- > Matt Emmerton > > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 8.51a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: 9.0 bata2 & keymap
I don't think not asking the question is the right answer. Asking about the keyboard layout during installation is the right thing to do; working with the wrong one is difficult and not everyone has a standard US keyboard. I think the problem is that the keymap names are kind of obscure, making it hard for users who aren't already familiar with FreeBSD internals to know which one to pick. Many Linux installers ask for a keymap during installation, but they give fairly clear names for the keymaps like "US English 105-key", making it easy to pick one that's likely to work. When I installed FreeBSD-9.0-BETA it took me two tries to find a layout that works because it's far from clear what will yield "normal" behavior. I tried the "United States of America Traditional UNIX Workstation" one first (traditional! It must be standard, right?) and found I had no working Ctrl key. Eventually I landed on "United States of America ISO-8859-1", which worked, but I'm not sure it's reasonable to expect a new user to know what "ISO-8859-1" is and whether they have it. Surely we can name these layouts a bit more clearly? I think that would solve most of the problem. I would offer a patch but I'm the wrong person to do it, since they make no sense to me. ;) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: much to my surprise....
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 12:14 AM, Matthew Seaman wrote: > Not my experience. Running my own DNS is simple and trouble free, plus > it gives me much more scope to play with things like DNSSEC. I've done it before, but I don't anymore. Partly because it's very hard to provide proper levels of DNS redundancy if you're running your own DNS server. Not that the big players always get it right; I've seen ones that had four authoritative servers that were all on the same subnet. ;) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: much to my surprise.... [ now trending #OT ]
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 12:27:57PM +0100, Dave wrote:
> Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 12:27:57 +0100
> From: Dave
> Subject: Re: much to my surprise [ now trending #OT ]
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.61)
>
> From: "Matt Emmerton"
>
> >
> >
> > > but i've been doing this for a while, and
> > > until i was away for five days, everything had been going
> > > fine for over a month. oh:: one power-out. the UPS saved
> > > the server, but everything else needed to be reinitialized.
> >
> > A lesson that I learned many years ago - if you can afford a "big" UPS
> > for your servers, you can afford a "little" one for your telco/network
> > equipment.
> >
>
> I'm using some PoE kit to power the router remotely down it's LAN cable,
> that in turn run's from the protected supply from the UPS. Said UPS also
> powers the main network switch, as well as my own LAN server (f'BSD
> based, to stay vaguely on toppic!) Plus two other PC's and a NAS device.
>
> It'll hold that lot up, for over 20 minutes when the lights go out (the
> longest unscheduled outage so far.) It's also configured to NOT come
> back, if it runs down and cuts out. I'll do that manually if needed.
> (Not so far.) I never did get the BSD port of APCUPSD to work correctly.
>
> All works well. Also, easy to do a router "Hard" restart, without going
> to the router itself. And if it does all die, it fails safe.
>
> Regards.
>
> Dave B.
see, if i had help at =your= level of expertise, i'd be
fine. 4 days in the icu is still ,messing me up a bit, but
i grok most of what you're saying to matt.
Oh, and for those who suggested i hire somebody instead of
relying on volunteers:: while there is a seattle linux
group, gslug, i know 0.0 people who have a clue about BSD.
i've asked around--the senior techs at the telco have no
clue when i [or someone who can speak] mentioned 'unix'.
i've tried to find some students at the u/washington. zip.
linux, a few people mumble, 'yes, ive heard of that.' but
unix, or berkeley unix , or sun unix. {gawk: Orifice unix,
rather} Zero.
BTW, ive not had time nor savvy to get the APC UPS Port
installed. besides, right now, there in only one 2009 dell
2-cpu on the battery. it has saved state twice. but i
=still= had to get down and crawl around with flashlight in
teeth and power off stuff. -no, no 'poor gary'; that's just
the bare facts.
-g
>
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Re: Pci express ZFS card?
On 09/21/2011 09:16 AM, Eduardo Morras wrote: Hi, i have this used pci express industrial card (PCIe 2.0 x4) with 1GB: http://www.ieiworld.com/product_groups/industrial/content.aspx?gid=1101&cid=08141333914287007902&id=0A263601401161285688 I want to install a NanoBSD with ZFS and 3 Sata disks. Unfortunately i know nothing about this topic. Does anynone know if this type of cards can be connected to a server? Can i access the zfs raidz on it througth the pci express interface? The card documentation says nothing about its use on normal pc as expansion card, only on pci express backplanes. TIA I would posit that it is only for use as on a PCI Express backplane; I don't even see how it would fit in a standard PCI Express slot (seeing as the backplane connector is physically longer than the PCI Express connector). Moreover, the card itself looks like a system-on-a-board (a complete computer system on a single mainboard). --Joseph Lenox ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: SV: much to my surprise....
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 11:42:53AM +0200, Hasse Hansson wrote: > > Hello. > "Outsourcing" primary DNS services saves a lot of hassle. > I've been using http://freedns.afraid.org/ for a couple of years with great > satisfaction. > Please check'em out before decide. > i've used afraid.org as a secondary for about a year. i've be happy to just let somebody who deals with the DNS side of things handle mine as well. that wont keep my "modem" from flipping state, but it would be several less migraines. tack, gary > > -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 8.51a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
where is ng_eapol project?
Hi. Does any know is anywhere ng_eapol project or any clone of it? -- С уважением, Коньков mailto:kes-...@yandex.ru ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: much to my surprise....
On 23/09/2011 19:19, David Brodbeck wrote: > On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 12:14 AM, Matthew Seaman > wrote: >> > Not my experience. Running my own DNS is simple and trouble free, plus >> > it gives me much more scope to play with things like DNSSEC. > I've done it before, but I don't anymore. Partly because it's very > hard to provide proper levels of DNS redundancy if you're running your > own DNS server. Not that the big players always get it right; I've > seen ones that had four authoritative servers that were all on the > same subnet. ;) Yeah. My ISP will 2ary my zones onto their much larger and diversely situated servers at no extra cost. That's pretty handy. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matt...@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Pci express ZFS card?
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Joseph Lenox wrote: > On 09/21/2011 09:16 AM, Eduardo Morras wrote: >> >> Hi, i have this used pci express industrial card (PCIe 2.0 x4) with 1GB: >> >> >> http://www.ieiworld.com/product_groups/industrial/content.aspx?gid=1101&cid=08141333914287007902&id=0A263601401161285688 >> >> I want to install a NanoBSD with ZFS and 3 Sata disks. Unfortunately i >> know nothing about this topic. Does anynone know if this type of cards can >> be connected to a server? Can i access the zfs raidz on it througth the pci >> express interface? >> >> The card documentation says nothing about its use on normal pc as >> expansion card, only on pci express backplanes. >> >> TIA > > I would posit that it is only for use as on a PCI Express backplane; I don't > even see how it would fit in a standard PCI Express slot (seeing as the > backplane connector is physically longer than the PCI Express connector). > Moreover, the card itself looks like a system-on-a-board (a complete > computer system on a single mainboard). > This is definatley a backplane SBC designed system, and will not work in a standard motherboard, seems to me what he really wants is like an OCZ revo drive, or Fusion IO card > --Joseph Lenox > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
rsync over nfs or rsync protocol
I am looking into finally setting up a backup solution that's a little more sophisticated than a bunch of DVD-RWs. I have two servers. I'd like to make each a backup server for the other. I'm considering using rsync. Is rsync a good choice for a backup tool? Should I use the rsyncd or should I use NFS? I'm using 100 mbps ethernet. What's the better solution I haven't considered? Thanks, Jason ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
RE: rsync over nfs or rsync protocol
I'm sure you'll get a TON of responses on this. Maybe some script that combines tar, g[b]zip, and rsync? I wouldn't use NFS just for this, but if it's already there it may have a place. -Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Jason C. Wells Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 4:04 PM To: freebsd general questions Subject: rsync over nfs or rsync protocol I am looking into finally setting up a backup solution that's a little more sophisticated than a bunch of DVD-RWs. I have two servers. I'd like to make each a backup server for the other. I'm considering using rsync. Is rsync a good choice for a backup tool? Should I use the rsyncd or should I use NFS? I'm using 100 mbps ethernet. What's the better solution I haven't considered? Thanks, Jason ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" "This email is intended to be reviewed by only the intended recipient and may contain information that is privileged and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, use, dissemination, disclosure or copying of this email and its attachments, if any, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify the sender by return email and delete this email from your system." ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: rsync over nfs or rsync protocol
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 02:04:03PM -0700, Jason C. Wells wrote: > I am looking into finally setting up a backup solution that's a little > more sophisticated than a bunch of DVD-RWs. I have two servers. I'd > like to make each a backup server for the other. I'm considering using > rsync. > Is rsync a good choice for a backup tool? rsync can be used effectively. The optimum solution really depends on how much total disk and how much changes between each run. > Should I use the rsyncd or should I use NFS? I'm using 100 mbps ethernet. > What's the better solution I haven't considered? Why would you interject NFS in the middle of it? jerry > > Thanks, > Jason > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: rsync over nfs or rsync protocol
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Jason C. Wells wrote: > I am looking into finally setting up a backup solution that's a little more > sophisticated than a bunch of DVD-RWs. I have two servers. I'd like to > make each a backup server for the other. I'm considering using rsync. > > Is rsync a good choice for a backup tool? rsync is good for mirroring one file tree to another. If you want a complete backup system centering around rsync, check out BackupPC. NFS will let you mount one server's files from another, but you'll still need to use something to copy the files over; either rsync or something else. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: rsync over nfs or rsync protocol
On Sep 23, 2011, at 2:04 PM, Jason C. Wells wrote: > Is rsync a good choice for a backup tool? It's OK. A versioned backup system (dump/restore, Legato Networker, Amanda, Retrospect, etc) is more efficient at using backup storage. > Should I use the rsyncd or should I use NFS? I'm using 100 mbps ethernet. If it's local and you already have NFS in place, that would be fine. If you're backing up over a WAN, rsyncd is probably a better call. > What's the better solution I haven't considered? Lots. The handbook has a chapter on backups which is worth reading, also Regards, -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: rsync over nfs or rsync protocol
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011, Jason C. Wells wrote: > I am looking into finally setting up a backup solution that's a little > more sophisticated than a bunch of DVD-RWs. I have two servers. I'd > like to make each a backup server for the other. I'm considering using > rsync. > > Is rsync a good choice for a backup tool? > Should I use the rsyncd or should I use NFS? I'm using 100 mbps ethernet. > What's the better solution I haven't considered? We use rsync extensively for backups on local LANs as well as off-site via the 'Net. My experience using NFS for this was not good, but it's been many years since I last tried this so I don't remember the details. Bill -- INTERNET: b...@celestial.com Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC URL: http://www.celestial.com/ PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way Voice: (206) 236-1676 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820 Fax:(206) 232-9186 Skype: jwccsllc (206) 855-5792 Windows is a computer virus with a user interface!! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Trying to build Nessus 4 from ports
Good Day Trying to build /usr/ports/security/nessus on FreeBSD 9-beta2 with ports updated via - portsnap fetch update - completed 09/22/2011. The result from #>make; ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for nessus-libraries-2.2.9_1 ===> nessus-libraries-2.2.9_1 depends on executable: bison - found ===> nessus-libraries-2.2.9_1 depends on package: libtool>=2.4 - found ===> Configuring for nessus-libraries-2.2.9_1 * W a r n i n g * * * * Nessus needs Berkeley Packet Filter (bpf). * * To use nessus, your kernel must be rebuilt with bpf, * * and make bpf devices on /dev directory. * * * * Be sure to build as many bpf devices as you need.* * For more info on this read files/README.BPF * *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/security/nessus-libraries. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/security/nessus-libnasl. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/security/nessus. From an earlier post on freebsd-questions I added; # Historically X depended on this, but version 4.3.0 doesn't seem to anymore #linkttyv0vga # Commonly used by many ports #linkacd0cdrom # Allow a user in the wheel group to query the smb0 device #permsmb00660 # Allow members of group operator to cat things to the speaker #ownspeakerroot:operator #permspeaker0660 own bpf0root:bpf permbpf00640 own bpf1root:bpf permbpf10640 own bpf2root:bpf permbpf20640 ownbpf3root:bpf permbpf30640 ownbpf4root:bpf permbpf40640 to /etc/devfs.conf. But I still get; crw-r- 1 root bpf 0, 11 Sep 22 21:14 bpf lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel3 Sep 22 21:14 bpf0 -> bpf crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 0, 49 Sep 22 21:14 bpsm0 in /dev after rebooting. Do I require a statement in rc.conf or loader.conf to activate more bpf devices? Am I editing the right file the wrong way? The proper handbook chapter escapes me right now. Previous to trying to build nessus from ports I built a new kernel with - device bpf enabled. Thank You, Michael ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: rsync over nfs or rsync protocol
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 2:15 PM, Chuck Swiger wrote: > Lots. The handbook has a chapter on backups which is worth reading, also True. Personally, I like dump/restore for disaster-recovery backups on FreeBSD. However, if you frequently need individual file recovery (e.g., Joe User deletes an important file and wants it back) or if you need to back up systems running something other than FreeBSD, BackupPC is hard to beat for disk-to-disk backup. If you're going to tape you might want something like Amanda, instead. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Overwrite bsd tar
Esimorp E writes: > [prom@pcbsd-2112] /home/prom# ls -la /usr/bin/tar > lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 6 Jul 18 2010 /usr/bin/tar -> bsdtar > [prom@pcbsd-2112] /home/prom# ls -la /usr/local/bin/gtar > ls: /usr/local/bin/gtar: No such file or directory > [prom@pcbsd-2112] /home/prom# > > Please, what would the best way to resolve this problem? If you want gnu tar, which based on the earlier messages in this thread I think you do, you should install it. E.g.: cd /usr/ports/archivers/gtar (su if necessary) make install ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Overwrite bsd tar
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > If you want gnu tar, which based on the earlier messages in this thread > I think you do, you should install it. > > E.g.: > cd /usr/ports/archivers/gtar > (su if necessary) > make install > Being aware of the "XY Problem" and http://www.lemis.com/questions.html is always something a newbie should understand. -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
