Re: zfs file names (inodes) without files (ENOENT)

[Martin von Gagern]

On 07.11.2011 22:01, David Brodbeck wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 3:32 AM, Martin von Gagern
>  wrote:
>> Makes me wonder whether I'd be better off with either some OpenSolaris
>> descendant (hoping that the problem only lies in the FreeBSD port of
>> ZFS) or with Linux (and either btrfs or some more mature fs).
> 
> Both of those solutions are guaranteed to contain a different set of
> bugs. ;)

No doubt about that, but I have the hope that bugs I don't encounter
within the first 48 hours of system usage might be less likely to cause
severe trouble in the long run, too.

> I've looked at both FreeBSD and OpenIndiana, and could give
> you some thoughts on what I see is their respective strong and weak
> points, if you're interested.

Thanks for the offer, but see below.

> It *would* be interesting to see what OpenIndiana made of that
> filesystem.  You could boot a LiveCD and then import the pool and see
> if you had the same issue.  If nothing else that might let you delete
> the problematic file entry.

Thought the same, and gave it a try. zpool claims there is no pool of
that name. "zpool -f" doesn't help. Looking at the device nodes, it
appears as though OI would only recognize 3 of my 4 HDDs, which seems
really strange, given the fact that they're all wired the same way. So I
didn't even get to looking at the dir in question. That, combined with
the fact that OI boot process provides too little information for my
taste, and the additional fact that Backspace doesn't seem to work out
of the box, has let me develop a dislike for the system upon initial
use. I don't fancy having to configure such basic things.

So I'm heading towards Linux now, as no solution to the FreeBSD ZFS
problems seems to be forthcoming. Will probably be running some tandem
of btrfs and Ext4 for now, until btrfs becomes more mature or space
requirements force me to drop one of those file systems.

Thanks for your input, David,
 Martin



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Re: FreeBSD idea

[Mehmet Erol Sanliturk]

On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 7:20 PM, David Morton  wrote:

> I'm very new to BSD, and had a career that left me mostly doing commercial
> IT help desk in Windows, but am hoping to finally learn and do something of
> interest to me: get deep knowledge of one platform.
>
> A local magazine, Silicon Chip; and one of it's writers have developed a
> little computer called the MaxiMite.  Details here:
> http://geoffg.net/maximite.html  It's a PIC32 single chip computer that I
> use through USB emulation of a serial port.
>
> I would like to try and build on it, and the first thought would be if it
> could run a limited version of BSD, as an alternative OS using the same
> boot loader.  Microchip has an IDE, with a free version that uses C, and I
> speculate that much of the OS could be stored of the SD card, with only the
> barest minimum in the on board flash.
>
> I'm not dumping this all on others though, I am looking at adding extra
> RAM, and wired Ethernet; probably through an alternative hardware
> equivalent from Olimex that is due soon.
>
> Please reply direct to me, I haven't found how to get on the mailing list,
> or decided if I should.
>
> David
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Re: Burning CD

[perryh]

Robert Bonomi  wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Nov 2011 12:59:23 -0800 (PST), C Horman  wrote:
> > Pentium 4, with 400MB of RAM and 2G harddrive.  There is no
> > other operating system on the computer.   When I put the CD
> > in to boot I get the message Non System disk - disk error ...
>
> The _first_ thing to check is the list of 'boot devices' in the
> computer's BIOS.  Make sure the CD Drive islisted.

Not just listed, but listed _ahead_ of the hard drive in the boot
sequence.  That "Non System disk ..." message is what an empty or
data-only disk will produce if it is booted.
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Re: FreeBSD idea

[Adam Vande More]

On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 6:20 PM, David Morton  wrote:

> I'm very new to BSD, and had a career that left me mostly doing commercial
> IT help desk in Windows, but am hoping to finally learn and do something of
> interest to me: get deep knowledge of one platform.
>
> A local magazine, Silicon Chip; and one of it's writers have developed a
> little computer called the MaxiMite.  Details here:
> http://geoffg.net/maximite.**html   It's
> a PIC32 single chip computer that I use through USB emulation of a serial
> port.
>
> I would like to try and build on it, and the first thought would be if it
> could run a limited version of BSD, as an alternative OS using the same
> boot loader.  Microchip has an IDE, with a free version that uses C, and I
> speculate that much of the OS could be stored of the SD card, with only the
> barest minimum in the on board flash.
>
> I'm not dumping this all on others though, I am looking at adding extra
> RAM, and wired Ethernet; probably through an alternative hardware
> equivalent from Olimex that is due soon.
>
> Please reply direct to me, I haven't found how to get on the mailing list,
> or decided if I should.
>

http://wiki.freebsd.org/FreeBSD/mips
http://www.freebsd.org/platforms/mips.html

You might have better luck with freebsd-hackers@ or freebsd-mips@

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Re: FreeBSD idea

[Ryan Coleman]

I'd love to have this discussion on the list for the record, in case someone in 
the future wants to give this a shot, too.

On Nov 7, 2011, at 6:20 PM, David Morton wrote:

> I'm very new to BSD, and had a career that left me mostly doing commercial IT 
> help desk in Windows, but am hoping to finally learn and do something of 
> interest to me: get deep knowledge of one platform.
> 
> A local magazine, Silicon Chip; and one of it's writers have developed a 
> little computer called the MaxiMite.  Details here: 
> http://geoffg.net/maximite.html  It's a PIC32 single chip computer that I use 
> through USB emulation of a serial port.
> 
> I would like to try and build on it, and the first thought would be if it 
> could run a limited version of BSD, as an alternative OS using the same boot 
> loader.  Microchip has an IDE, with a free version that uses C, and I 
> speculate that much of the OS could be stored of the SD card, with only the 
> barest minimum in the on board flash.
> 
> I'm not dumping this all on others though, I am looking at adding extra RAM, 
> and wired Ethernet; probably through an alternative hardware equivalent from 
> Olimex that is due soon.
> 
> Please reply direct to me, I haven't found how to get on the mailing list, or 
> decided if I should.
> 
> David
> -- 
> David Morton
> PO Box 216
> Geeveston TAS 7116
> AUSTRALIA
> 
> Email: toto...@gmail.com
> Mobile: 0400 560 330
> Skype: david-ah-morton
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FreeBSD idea

[David Morton]

I'm very new to BSD, and had a career that left me mostly doing 
commercial IT help desk in Windows, but am hoping to finally learn and 
do something of interest to me: get deep knowledge of one platform.


A local magazine, Silicon Chip; and one of it's writers have developed a 
little computer called the MaxiMite.  Details here: 
http://geoffg.net/maximite.html  It's a PIC32 single chip computer that 
I use through USB emulation of a serial port.


I would like to try and build on it, and the first thought would be if 
it could run a limited version of BSD, as an alternative OS using the 
same boot loader.  Microchip has an IDE, with a free version that uses 
C, and I speculate that much of the OS could be stored of the SD card, 
with only the barest minimum in the on board flash.


I'm not dumping this all on others though, I am looking at adding extra 
RAM, and wired Ethernet; probably through an alternative hardware 
equivalent from Olimex that is due soon.


Please reply direct to me, I haven't found how to get on the mailing 
list, or decided if I should.


David
--
David Morton
PO Box 216
Geeveston TAS 7116
AUSTRALIA

Email: toto...@gmail.com
Mobile: 0400 560 330
Skype: david-ah-morton
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X server and xinit works excellent....almost.

[Samuel Magnusson]

Hi everyone!

I'm quite new to BSD and installed it on my old Pentium to try to learn 
the unixverse from bottom up. My first aim is not just getting the 
system running for surfing the web or something, not even to be 
productive, but to understand why and how it runs.(Or else, why it 
runs not?:)  And that, of course, brings me here to write my first 
query. This (foolish?) wish to understand may also explain why I bother 
to be curious about something that may be of little, if any, practical 
concern since my X server display runs well with twm and awesome so 
far...  except for some minor anomalies.


My antique system is: Pentium 4, Geforce 2 MM/MX, with (not so antique) 
FreeBSD-8,2-Release, Xorg - fresh update from ports a couple of days ago 
(latest version of todays but don't remember the version nr) (...Eh..yes 
that means that my Pentium is sleeping for the moment and I'm writing 
this from my laptop with, ehm.. Window...something.)


Now the 4 different reasons for my unhappiness:

1.  I can´t zap the server with Ctrl-Alt-Backspace. Nothing at all 
happens. I have checked that it isn't disabled in xorg.conf, and even 
tried to put in the reverse boolean value there.  Not that I couldn't 
live without zapping, but...when I know about it that it should be there 
and it is taken fom me I feel an URGE to get the zap!


2.  Not surprisingly I was also unable to use the Ctrl-Alt-Keypad+/- for 
zooming between the different resolution modes. But then I remembered 
that I had changed configuration from vesa driver to nouveau (with some 
patch that I downloaded according to instructions in ports). When I 
switched back to vesa it worked! Still no zapping though, and no higher 
resolution than 1024x768. I therefore would like to get it to work with 
the nouveau also. (And to Zap them both! ;)
Or are there other ways, using alternative drivers perhaps? (beside 
upgrading graphics card...)


3.  When I started the X server manually, and just giving the vtXX 
option (without starting any client) the system went black and didn't 
respond. I couldn't zap it (as you know), but I couldn't even resort to 
the console with Ctrl-Alt-F1 (or any Fn) which otherwise works normally. 
I had to resort to hardware reset and boot from single user mode. This 
problem is not present if I just start the server with X :0 and let it 
choose the tty by itself. Then it works fine to go Ctrl-Alt-F1 and start 
xterm -display:0 with full functionality. Experimenting with this I 
discovered that if I started the first way, with option vtXX and the 
system went black, I actually still could reach the server from my 
laptop and ssh-login, and start xterm from there. Well in xterm I could 
just type exit and the X server went down smoothely.


4. Also xinit behaves strangely on my system. It works perfectly with my 
.xinitrc-script, so that is not the problem. But when I wanted to just 
start an xterm without a window manager, like "xinit xterm [options]" it 
should, according to the book, ignore .xinitrc and go for the options 
given to it. But it doesn't!! Instead it ignores my wish for a naked 
xterm (I'm pervert, I know..) and starts up twm in all it's glory as if 
reading .xinitrc was a craving it couldn't resist (like mine for zap). I 
had to change the name of .xinitrc so it couldn't find the beauty for it 
to obey. Then it  gave me my xterm. But still no good, because it also 
tries to start it's own default xterm in the upper left corner. And that 
one xterm behaves sickly, the cursor is just flimmering and if I type in 
something it immediately disappears, as if someone was leaning on the 
backspace. The other xterm (the one that I asked for) has no prompt and 
while I can write things in there and press return, xterm behaves like 
it was a text editor simply moving the cursor to next line as if it 
didn't just receive a command. There is one command though that it 
responds to, and that is: exit. It wants to go home. This is a funny 
problem. I guess it is not important, because when used for what it is 
mostly supposed to do - reading .xinitrc - the program works 
excellently. But still...


I guess 1-2 could be a problem with drivers, 3-4 with X and xinit, but 
what do I know?


Help is very much appreciated!

(Well, I guess I don't NEED your help as in *URGENT* and needing food, 
or even as in needing a screwdriver, because when I get the zap and zoom 
and naked xinitiated xterm and the tty of my choice, I plan to never or 
very seldom use them.  But I sure WANT your help.  And maybe there is 
some hidden functionality here that is lacking and will show itself a 
problem later on when trying heavier wms and desktops)


I wish you a nice day!
/Samuel
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Re: Burning CD

[Conrad J. Sabatier]

On Mon, 7 Nov 2011 12:59:23 -0800 (PST)
C Horman  wrote:

> Hi,
> I am interested in trying FreeBSD version 8.2 for an older computer
> that I have. Pentium 4, with 400MB of RAM and 2G harddrive.  There is
> no other operating system on the computer.  When I put the CD in to
> boot I get the message Non System disk - disk error.  I have looked
> at the files on the CD and I see boot files and loader files, so it
> looks like the files are available to use?

Are you sure the computer is actually trying to boot from the CD drive
and not from some other device?  If you can see all of the files on the
CD, including the /boot and other directories, this sounds like a
probably cause.

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Re: Burning CD

[Robert Bonomi]

> From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org  Mon Nov  7 15:41:03 2011
> Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 12:59:23 -0800 (PST)
> From: C Horman 
> To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" 
> Cc: 
> Subject: Burning CD
>
> Hi,
> I am interested in trying FreeBSD version 8.2 for an older computer that I h
> ave. Pentium 4, with 400MB of RAM and 2G harddrive.  There is no other opera
> ting system on the computer.   When I put the CD in to boot I get the messag
> e Non System disk - disk error.  I have looked at the files on the CD and I 
> see boot files and loader files, so it looks like the files are available to
>  use?  I used a free program for Windows XP to burn the ISO image to CD.  Co
> uld the way the ISO image was burned onto the CD cause the disk error proble
> m?   Do you have any free software suggestions for burning a CD in Windows X
> P if this is the issue?

'ImageBurn' and 'CDBurnerXP' both work. So does Window's native capability.


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Re: Burning CD

[Robert Bonomi]

On Mon, 7 Nov 2011 12:59:23 -0800 (PST), C Horman  wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I am interested in trying FreeBSD version 8.2 for an older computer that I h
> ave. Pentium 4, with 400MB of RAM and 2G harddrive.  There is no other opera
> ting system on the computer.   When I put the CD in to boot I get the messag
> e Non System disk - disk error.  I have looked at the files on the CD and I 
> see boot files and loader files, so it looks like the files are available to
>  use?  I used a free program for Windows XP to burn the ISO image to CD.  Co
> uld the way the ISO image was burned onto the CD cause the disk error proble
> m?   Do you have any free software suggestions for burning a CD in Windows X
> P if this is the issue?

The _first_ thing to check is the list of 'boot devices' in the computer's 
BIOS.  Make sure the CD Drive islisted.

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Re: console-kit daemon

[Chuck Swiger]

On Nov 7, 2011, at 4:19 PM, ajtiM wrote:
> I ahve a problem that computer freeze when I compailing ports without error. 
> Sometimes freeze (hard reset help) and sometimes reboot.
> I did ran memtest 24 hours and there were no errors, I used smartmontools for 
> check hard drive and there are no errors but the problem is here still.

Running memtest is a great diagnostic for bad memory.

It's good that it passed; so this suggests thermal problems, or less likely, a 
marginal power supply unit which can't handle full load.  prime95 / mprime has 
a diagnostic mode which lets you fully load up both CPU and memory resources, 
and might be better suited to identifying a problem if memtest didn't find 
anything

Regards,
-- 
-Chuck

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Re: Burning CD

[Mehmet Erol Sanliturk]

On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 3:59 PM, C Horman  wrote:

> Hi,
> I am interested in trying FreeBSD version 8.2 for an older computer that I
> have. Pentium 4, with 400MB of RAM and 2G harddrive.  There is no other
> operating system on the computer.  When I put the CD in to boot I get the
> message Non System disk - disk error.  I have looked at the files on the CD
> and I see boot files and loader files, so it looks like the files are
> available to use?  I used a free program for Windows XP to burn the ISO
> image to CD.  Could the way the ISO image was burned onto the CD cause the
> disk error problem?  Do you have any free software suggestions for burning
> a CD in Windows XP if this is the issue?
>
> Thanks,
> Chuck Horman
>


If you have Nero installed properly in your Windows XP , you do not need
any other program to burn a CD .

With Windows Explorer , position on the .iso file and double click . When
Nero starts directly burn the "image" . Do NOT select any Make Data , or
Copy Data etc. item from menus .

Directly burning an .iso file will create a boot enabled CD 9660 file
system . If you burn a data CD from .iso file , it will not record boot
sector , i.e. , it will not be boot enabled properly .

Thank you very much .

Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
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console-kit daemon

[ajtiM]

Hi!

My system: FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE-p3.

I ahve a problem that computer freeze when I compailing ports without error. 
Sometimes freeze (hard reset help) and sometimes reboot.
I did ran memtest 24 hours and there were no errors, I used smartmontools for 
check hard drive and there are no errors but the problem is here still.
In rc.conf I have also:dbus_enable="YES"
  
polkitd_enable="YES"
   
hald_enable="YES"   
   
saver="green"   
   
blanktime="600" 
   
linux_enable="YES"  
   
clamav_clamd_enable="YES"   
   
clamav_freshclam_enable="YES"   
   
cupsd_enable="YES"  
   
smartd_enable="YES" 

I have installed KDE 4 which I start from console (startx) and fluxbox.


Today after restart computer happened first time:

Nov  7 05:58:52 athena dbus[1127]: [system] Activating service 
name='org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit' (using servicehelper) 
Nov  7 05:58:52 athena console-kit-daemon[1610]: WARNING: Could not determine 
active console   
Nov  7 05:58:52 athena console-kit-daemon[1610]: WARNING: Error waiting for 
native console 1 activation: Inappropriate ioctl for device
Nov  7 05:58:52 athena console-kit-daemon[1610]: WARNING: Error waiting for 
native console 4 activation: Inappropriate ioctl for device
Nov  7 05:58:52 athena console-kit-daemon[1610]: WARNING: Error waiting for 
native console 10 activation: Inappropriate ioctl for device   
Nov  7 05:58:52 athena console-kit-daemon[1610]: WARNING: Error waiting for 
native console 5 activation: Inappropriate ioctl for device
Nov  7 05:58:52 athena console-kit-daemon[1610]: WARNING: Error waiting for 
native console 6 activation: Inappropriate ioctl for device
Nov  7 05:58:52 athena console-kit-daemon[1610]: WARNING: Error waiting for 
native console 7 activation: Inappropriate ioctl for device
Nov  7 05:58:52 athena console-kit-daemon[1610]: WARNING: Error waiting for 
native console 2 activation: Inappropriate ioctl for device
Nov  7 05:58:52 athena console-kit-daemon[1610]: WARNING: Error waiting for 
native console 8 activation: Inappropriate ioctl for device
Nov  7 05:58:52 athena console-kit-daemon[1610]: WARNING: Error waiting for 
native console 9 activation: Inappropriate ioctl for device
Nov  7 05:58:52 athena console-kit-daemon[1610]: WARNING: Error waiting for 
native console 11 activation: Inappropriate ioctl for device   
Nov  7 05:58:52 athena console-kit-daemon[1610]: WARNING: Error waiting for 
native console 12 activation: Inappropriate ioctl for device   
Nov  7 05:58:52 athena console-kit-daemon[1610]: WARNING: Error waiting for 
native console 13 activation: Inappropriate ioctl for device   
Nov  7 05:58:52 athena console-kit-daemon[1610]: WARNING: Error waiting for 
native console 14 activation: Inappropriate ioctl for device   
Nov  7 05:58:52 athena console-kit-daemon[1610]: WARNING: Error waiting for 
native console 15 activation: Inappropriate ioctl for device   
Nov  7 05:58:52 athena console-kit-daemon[1610]: WARNING: Error waiting for 
native console 16 activation: Inappropriate ioctl for device   
Nov  7 05:58:52 athena console-kit-daemon[1610]: WARNING: Error waiting for 
native console 3 activation: Inappropriate ioctl for device
Nov  7 05:58:52 athena dbus[1127]: [system] Activating service 
name='org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1' (using servicehelper) 
Nov  7 05:58:53 athena dbus[1127]: [system] Successfully activated service 
'org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1'
Nov  7 05:58:53 athena dbus[1127]: [system] Successfully activated service 
'org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit'

Thanks in advance...

Mitja

http://jpgmag.com/people/lumiwa
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Re: OH NO! IT says my root partition / is full but it isn't! Why is FreeBSD lying about space?

[Albert Shih]

 Le 07/11/2011 à 10:27:02-0800, rtsit a écrit
> Thanks Lowell. 
> 
> 
> I did reboot the machine a few times, hoping that any process in memory that 
> still claimed ownership of an open part of the disk would release it.
> 
> Didn't work. I'm going to try the other method recommended by Michael 
> Sierchio -- to reboot in single user mode and try and clear out any directory 
> structures that could exist that my mount labels could be hiding.  Thanks for 
> the reply and helpful link.
> 

Try to reboot in single mode and do a fsck on all partition. 

Regards.

JAS
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Re: Monitor directory and execute script

[David Romano]

Andrea Venturoli wrote on Mon, Nov 07, 2011 at 06:28:32AM MST:
> I need to check for new or updated files in a directory and execute
> a script on them whenever that happens.
> Before I launch on complicated scripting, is there some
> utility/port/deamon that already does this?
For fine-tuned control, perhaps auditd.

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Re: Burning CD

[Michael Ross]

Am 07.11.2011, 22:47 Uhr, schrieb Polytropon :


On Mon, 7 Nov 2011 12:59:23 -0800 (PST), C Horman wrote:

Do you have any free software suggestions for burning a CD
in Windows XP if this is the issue?


Sorry, I'm not a "Windows" person and I don't use 10 years
old software, so I can't give you any suggestion here. :-)


I am,
I do,
and I can :-)

http://www.imgburn.com/


Regards, Michael
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Re: Burning CD

[Polytropon]

On Mon, 7 Nov 2011 12:59:23 -0800 (PST), C Horman wrote:
> Hi,
> I am interested in trying FreeBSD version 8.2 for an older
> computer that I have. Pentium 4, with 400MB of RAM and 2G
> harddrive. 

Should run fine there - I had a similar system obsoleted
in summer this year. :-)



> There is no other operating system on the computer.  When
> I put the CD in to boot I get the message Non System disk -
> disk error. 

Look at your BIOS settings to make sure a boot attempt
from CD will be done. Check related options in the CMOS
setup program.



> I have looked at the files on the CD and I see boot files
> and loader files, so it looks like the files are available
> to use?  I used a free program for Windows XP to burn the
> ISO image to CD. 

The ISO file is a "pre-mastered" image that will boot,
if recorded properly.



> Could the way the ISO image was burned onto the CD cause
> the disk error problem? 

If the writer did something wrong, or the media is damaged,
this is possible. Some burner programs allow you to re-read
the CD after burning for comparison with the ISO file. You
could try that in order to make sure you're recorded the CD
properly.



> Do you have any free software suggestions for burning a CD
> in Windows XP if this is the issue?

Sorry, I'm not a "Windows" person and I don't use 10 years
old software, so I can't give you any suggestion here. :-)



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Burning CD

[C Horman]

Hi,
I am interested in trying FreeBSD version 8.2 for an older computer that I 
have. Pentium 4, with 400MB of RAM and 2G harddrive.  There is no other 
operating system on the computer.  When I put the CD in to boot I get the 
message Non System disk - disk error.  I have looked at the files on the CD and 
I see boot files and loader files, so it looks like the files are available to 
use?  I used a free program for Windows XP to burn the ISO image to CD.  Could 
the way the ISO image was burned onto the CD cause the disk error problem?  Do 
you have any free software suggestions for burning a CD in Windows XP if this 
is the issue?
 
Thanks,
Chuck Horman
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Re: OH NO! IT says my root partition / is full but it isn't! Why is FreeBSD lying about space?

[Lowell Gilbert]

rtsit  writes:

> I did reboot the machine a few times, hoping that any process in
> memory that still claimed ownership of an open part of the disk would
> release it.

There are other things that can cause disk space to seem to disappear,
but there is a reason that one is in the FAQ list and the others aren't;
it's virtually always the cause when someone reports such a problem on
this list.

> Didn't work. I'm going to try the other method recommended by Michael
> Sierchio -- to reboot in single user mode and try and clear out any
> directory structures that could exist that my mount labels could be
> hiding.  Thanks for the reply and helpful link.

If the mounts are shadowing files, that will certainly hide data use.  
I hope that turns out to be the issue and you get it fixed quickly.

> (It was nice to not see a RTFM response, but a helpful link -- it is 
> appreciated).

I don't agree with you here.  My response *was* RTFM, and I don't see
anything inherently wrong with that.  I'm glad it was helpful.

Good luck.
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Re: zfs file names (inodes) without files (ENOENT)

[David Brodbeck]

On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 3:32 AM, Martin von Gagern
 wrote:
> Makes me wonder whether I'd be better off with either some OpenSolaris
> descendant (hoping that the problem only lies in the FreeBSD port of
> ZFS) or with Linux (and either btrfs or some more mature fs).

Both of those solutions are guaranteed to contain a different set of
bugs. ;)  I've looked at both FreeBSD and OpenIndiana, and could give
you some thoughts on what I see is their respective strong and weak
points, if you're interested.

It *would* be interesting to see what OpenIndiana made of that
filesystem.  You could boot a LiveCD and then import the pool and see
if you had the same issue.  If nothing else that might let you delete
the problematic file entry.
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Problems with nullfs on 9.0-RC1

[Moritz Wilhelmy]

Good evening,

I have been experiencing problems with accessing a nullfs which has been
mounted inside a nullfs. This is meant to be a very elaborate way to
exchange files between my jails :-)

I have following entries in /etc/fstab on the host system, which runs
FreeBSD 9.0-RC1 from a few days ago:

/usr/jails/foo/share/shares/foo nullfs  ro  0   0
/shares /usr/jails/foo/shares   nullfs  ro  0   0
/usr/jails/bar/share/shares/bar nullfs  ro  0   0
/shares /usr/jails/bar/shares   nullfs  ro  0   0
etc.

If I create a file in the bar jail in /share, let's call it zot, it is
available on the host system in /shares/bar, but not inside
/usr/jails/foo/shares/bar or /usr/jails/bar/shares/bar.

My syslog is full of messages like these:

Nov  7 16:44:15 machine kernel: null_bypass: vop_getattr
Nov  7 16:44:15 machine kernel: null_bypass: vop_readdir
Nov  7 16:44:15 machine kernel: null_bypass: vop_readdir
Nov  7 16:44:15 machine kernel: null_bypass: vop_close
Nov  7 16:44:15 machine kernel: null_bypass: vop_access
Nov  7 16:44:15 machine kernel: null_bypass: vop_open
Nov  7 16:44:15 machine kernel: null_bypass: vop_getattr
Nov  7 16:44:15 machine kernel: null_bypass: vop_read
Nov  7 16:44:15 machine kernel: null_bypass: vop_close
Nov  7 16:44:15 machine kernel: null_bypass: vop_access
Nov  7 16:44:15 machine kernel: null_bypass: vop_open
Nov  7 16:44:15 machine kernel: null_bypass: vop_getattr
Nov  7 16:44:15 machine kernel: null_bypass: vop_read
Nov  7 16:44:15 machine kernel: null_bypass: vop_close
Nov  7 16:44:15 machine kernel: null_bypass: vop_getattr
Nov  7 16:44:15 machine kernel: null_bypass: vop_access
Nov  7 16:44:15 machine kernel: null_bypass: vop_open
Nov  7 16:44:15 machine kernel: null_bypass: vop_getattr
Nov  7 16:44:15 machine kernel: null_bypass: vop_readdir
Nov  7 16:44:15 machine kernel: null_bypass: vop_readdir
Nov  7 16:44:15 machine kernel: null_bypass: vop_close
Nov  7 16:44:15 machine kernel: null_bypass: vop_getattr
Nov  7 16:44:15 machine last message repeated 2 times
Nov  7 16:44:15 machine kernel: null_bypass: vop_access

I guess I'm either doing something very stupid here, or this is a bug?
The manpage doesn't mention anything about nullfs still being unstable
(I read it used to be, with a huge bugs section in the manpage,
which read like this: "SLIPPERY WHEN WET, BEWARE OF DOG").
Has anyone run into similar problems?


Best regards,

Moritz
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Re: Request for Reproduction Rights (Oxford University Press Spain)

[Sergio Tam]

2011/11/7 Noelia.Sacristán :
>
>   Dear  Sir,
>
>
>   We are a  Spanish Publishing House, Oxford University Press Spain,
>   that publishes  textbooks for Spanish primary and secondary school.
>   We are interested in  including, in a textbook of secondary education
>   of Computing, the logo  of FreeBSD.
>
>
>   The logo  will be reproduce with educational purposes only. Therefore
>   we would  appreciate if you can tell us these reproductions will
>   cause any  problem.
>
>
>   If there is  no problem with the reproduction, please send me by
>   e-mail an  authorisation and the copyright line to credit you in our
>    textbook.
>
>   < o:p>
>
>   Thank you  very much in advance.
>
>
>   Best  regards,
>
>   Noelia
>


On the "ordenadores personales" (personal computers) might want to
consider to PC-BSD http://www.pcbsd.org/


Regards.
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Re: OH NO! Says root partition / is full but it's not! I don't get it

[rtsit]

Until Adam Vande More offers a better solution other than saying someone's 
advice is "terrible" -- there is no point in debating further.

Thanks again Michael.




From: Michael Sierchio 
To: Adam Vande More 
Cc: rtsit ; "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" 

Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 10:37 AM
Subject: Re: OH NO! Says root partition / is full but it's not! I don't get it

On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Adam Vande More  wrote:

> Indiscriminately instructing a user to delete files isn't good advice no
> matter how much butter you put on it.

It was with no small amount of discrimination and discernment that I
offered that advice.  Any files that exist there should not.  Read
carefully.

- M (UNIX since SYS III ver. 7, FreeBSD since 2.2.1)
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Re: multimedia/vlc: suddenly no graphical interface

[Garrett Cooper]

On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 1:46 AM, O. Hartmann
 wrote:
> On all of my used FreeBSD 9.0-RCX and FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT boxes (all
> amd64 and CLANG compiled), I do not have a graphical user interface in
> VLC anymore. Instead, calling vlc most recent 1.1.11), I get this error:
>
> VLC media player 1.1.11 The Luggage (revision exported)
> Blocked: call to unsetenv("DBUS_ACTIVATION_ADDRESS")
> Blocked: call to unsetenv("DBUS_ACTIVATION_BUS_TYPE")
> [0x8020521b0] main libvlc: Running vlc with the default interface. Use
> 'cvlc' to use vlc without interface.
> [0x80205ad70] main interface error: option qt-volume-complete does not exist
> [0x80205ad70] skins2 interface error: no suitable dialogs provider found
> (hint: compile the qt4 plugin, and make sure it is loaded properly)
> [0x80205ad70] skins2 interface error: cannot instanciate qt4 dialogs
> provider
> [0x8020521b0] main libvlc error: interface "default" initialization failed
>
>
> Recompiling the multimedia/vlc port did not help, also unsuccessful was
> the recompilation of any qt4-port installed on the system. I also tried
> to find the local configuration files in my home directory and delete
> them, without any success.
>
> Is there something wrong with the DBUS subsystem named in the error?

The best suggestion I have is ldd'ing the depends until you find the
broken library (you can't figure this out typically by ldd'ing vlc
because it dl_open's things IIRC -- can't verify because I blew away
my install with vlc on it recently).
-Garrett
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Re: multimedia/vlc: suddenly no graphical interface

[Garrett Cooper]

On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 9:33 AM, Gary Jennejohn
 wrote:
> On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 10:46:28 +0100
> "O. Hartmann"  wrote:
>
>> On all of my used FreeBSD 9.0-RCX and FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT boxes (all
>> amd64 and CLANG compiled), I do not have a graphical user interface in
>> VLC anymore. Instead, calling vlc most recent 1.1.11), I get this error:
>>
>> VLC media player 1.1.11 The Luggage (revision exported)
>> Blocked: call to unsetenv("DBUS_ACTIVATION_ADDRESS")
>> Blocked: call to unsetenv("DBUS_ACTIVATION_BUS_TYPE")
>> [0x8020521b0] main libvlc: Running vlc with the default interface. Use
>> 'cvlc' to use vlc without interface.
>> [0x80205ad70] main interface error: option qt-volume-complete does not exist
>> [0x80205ad70] skins2 interface error: no suitable dialogs provider found
>> (hint: compile the qt4 plugin, and make sure it is loaded properly)
>> [0x80205ad70] skins2 interface error: cannot instanciate qt4 dialogs
>> provider
>> [0x8020521b0] main libvlc error: interface "default" initialization failed
>>
>>
>> Recompiling the multimedia/vlc port did not help, also unsuccessful was
>> the recompilation of any qt4-port installed on the system. I also tried
>> to find the local configuration files in my home directory and delete
>> them, without any success.
>>
>> Is there something wrong with the DBUS subsystem named in the error?
>>
>
> No, this is what I seea and my GUI works:
>
> VLC media player 1.1.5 The Luggage (revision exported)
> Blocked: call to unsetenv("DBUS_ACTIVATION_ADDRESS")
> Blocked: call to unsetenv("DBUS_ACTIVATION_BUS_TYPE")
> Blocked: call to setlocale(0, "")
> Blocked: call to sigaction(20, 0x7f9fbcb0, 0x7f9fbcd0)
> [0x801c86b70] qt4 interface error: Unable to load extensions module

^^^

> Warning: call to rand()
> Warning: call to rand()
> Warning: call to rand()
> Warning: call to rand()
> Warning: call to rand()
> Blocked: call to sigaction(20, 0x7fffd5e0, 0x7fffd600)
> Blocked: call to sigaction(20, 0x7fffd600, 0x0)
>
> The version of vlc which I'm using:

Your vlc install is broken too. You'll need to ktrace / truss vlc
until you find the broken library as vlc likes to hide those details
from the end-user (even when invoking vlc with --verbose).
HTH,
-Garrett
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Re: OH NO! Says root partition / is full but it's not! I don't get it

[Michael Sierchio]

On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Adam Vande More  wrote:

> Indiscriminately instructing a user to delete files isn't good advice no
> matter how much butter you put on it.

It was with no small amount of discrimination and discernment that I
offered that advice.  Any files that exist there should not.  Read
carefully.

- M (UNIX since SYS III ver. 7, FreeBSD since 2.2.1)
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Re: OH NO! Says root partition / is full but it's not! I don't get it

[Adam Vande More]

On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Michael Sierchio wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Adam Vande More 
> wrote:
>
> > This is terrible advice.  There are proper methods for finding what's
> using
> > the space and to recover it.  You should use them.
>
> If there are files hidden by a covering mount, you won't find them
> when those filesystems are mounted.
>
>
Indiscriminately instructing a user to delete files isn't good advice no
matter how much butter you put on it.


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Re: ntpdate on boot problem

[Robison, Dave]

On 11/05/2011 14:52, Robert Simmons wrote:

Is there a way to make sure that the interface is UP and working
before running ntpdate at boot on a box with a static IP address?

After setting ntpdate_enable="YES" in rc.conf, I get the following
error on boot:

Setting date via ntp.
Error : hostname nor servname provided, or not known
  5 Nov 17:11:05
ntpdate[786]: can't find host 0.freebsd.pool.ntp.org

Error : hostname nor servname provided, or not known
  5 Nov 17:11:05
ntpdate[786]: can't find host 1.freebsd.pool.ntp.org

Error : hostname nor servname provided, or not known
  5 Nov 17:11:05
ntpdate[786]: can't find host 2.freebsd.pool.ntp.org

  5 Nov 17:11:05
ntpdate[786]: no servers can be used, exiting

I've had this problem with machines using DHCP and the solution was to
use SYNCDHCP rather than DHCP in rc.conf.  However, this box is using
a static IP address.  But the problem seems to be similar.

Rob
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I believe the easiest answer to your question is to do the following in 
/etc/rc.conf:


netwait_enable="YES"
netwait_ip="$defaultrouter"

This will cause your interface to wait until it can ping the default router.

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-rc/2010-June/001987.html

Enjoy,

Dave


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Re: OH NO! IT says my root partition / is full but it isn't! Why is FreeBSD lying about space?

[rtsit]

Thanks Lowell. 


I did reboot the machine a few times, hoping that any process in memory that 
still claimed ownership of an open part of the disk would release it.

Didn't work. I'm going to try the other method recommended by Michael Sierchio 
-- to reboot in single user mode and try and clear out any directory structures 
that could exist that my mount labels could be hiding.  Thanks for the reply 
and helpful link.

(It was nice to not see a RTFM response, but a helpful link -- it is 
appreciated).




From: Lowell Gilbert 
To: rtsit 
Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" 
Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: OH NO! IT says my root partition / is full but it isn't! Why is 
FreeBSD lying about space?

Try the FAQ entry titled "The du and df commands show different amounts
of disk space available. What is going on?".  You can find it at:
http://be-well.ilk.org/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html#DU-VS-DF
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Re: OH NO! Says root partition / is full but it's not! I don't get it

[Michael Sierchio]

On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Adam Vande More  wrote:

> This is terrible advice.  There are proper methods for finding what's using
> the space and to recover it.  You should use them.

If there are files hidden by a covering mount, you won't find them
when those filesystems are mounted.

- M
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Re: OH NO! Says root partition / is full but it's not! I don't get it

[rtsit]

Ok, I'll try this procedure as soon as I've got someone physically infront of 
the console,  and I'll report the results.

Thank you very much.  When it comes to root partition problems and remote 
SSHing, it always sends chills up my spine. :)




From: Michael Sierchio 
To: rtsit 
Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" 
Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 10:05 AM
Subject: Re: OH NO! Says root partition / is full but it's not! I don't get it

You're mistaken. ;-)  495736 / 507630, with some margin for free
space, means you're full.

Boot in single user mode.
for each mount point ( /tmp /usr /var )
chflags -R noschg /
rm -rf //*

You probably have a lot of hidden files covered by the mounted filesystems.

- M

On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 9:39 AM, rtsit  wrote:
>
>
> Why does it say my main root partition is full when it's not? It's only using 
> 146 Meg out of a possible 507 Meg
>
>
> Filesystem   1024-blocks Used Avail 
> Capacity  Mounted on
> /dev/ad4s1a   507630   495736    -28716   
> 106%    /
> devfs  1    1 0   
> 100%    /dev
> /dev/ad4s1e   507630   22    
> 466998 0%    /tmp
> /dev/ad4s1f    231510140 42142584 
> 170846746    20%    /usr
> /dev/ad4s1d  2004302   117636   
> 1726322 6%    /var
> # du -hxd1 /
> 2.0K    /.snap
> 512B    /dev
> 2.0K    /tmp
> 2.0K    /usr
> 2.0K    /var
> 4.3M    /etc
> 2.0K    /cdrom
> 2.0K    /dist
> 990K    /bin
> 127M    /boot
> 5.9M    /lib
> 342K    /libexec
> 2.0K    /media
> 2.0K    /mnt
> 2.0K    /proc
> 3.7M    /rescue
>  40K    /root
> 3.9M    /sbin
> 2.0K    /command
> 2.0K    /service
> 146M    /
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Re: OH NO! Says root partition / is full but it's not! I don't get it

[Adam Vande More]

On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 11:39 AM, rtsit  wrote:

>
>
> Why does it say my main root partition is full when it's not? It's only
> using 146 Meg out of a possible 507 Meg
>

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/faq/disks.html#DU-VS-DF

Boot in single user mode.
> for each mount point ( /tmp /usr /var )
> chflags -R noschg /
> rm -rf //*
>

This is terrible advice.  There are proper methods for finding what's using
the space and to recover it.  You should use them.

-- 
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Re: OH NO! Says root partition / is full but it's not! I don't get it

[Michael Sierchio]

You're mistaken. ;-)  495736 / 507630, with some margin for free
space, means you're full.

Boot in single user mode.
for each mount point ( /tmp /usr /var )
chflags -R noschg /
rm -rf //*

You probably have a lot of hidden files covered by the mounted filesystems.

- M

On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 9:39 AM, rtsit  wrote:
>
>
> Why does it say my main root partition is full when it's not? It's only using 
> 146 Meg out of a possible 507 Meg
>
>
> Filesystem   1024-blocks Used Avail 
> Capacity  Mounted on
> /dev/ad4s1a   507630   495736    -28716   
> 106%    /
> devfs  1    1 0   
> 100%    /dev
> /dev/ad4s1e   507630   22    
> 466998 0%    /tmp
> /dev/ad4s1f    231510140 42142584 
> 170846746    20%    /usr
> /dev/ad4s1d  2004302   117636   
> 1726322 6%    /var
> # du -hxd1 /
> 2.0K    /.snap
> 512B    /dev
> 2.0K    /tmp
> 2.0K    /usr
> 2.0K    /var
> 4.3M    /etc
> 2.0K    /cdrom
> 2.0K    /dist
> 990K    /bin
> 127M    /boot
> 5.9M    /lib
> 342K    /libexec
> 2.0K    /media
> 2.0K    /mnt
> 2.0K    /proc
> 3.7M    /rescue
>  40K    /root
> 3.9M    /sbin
> 2.0K    /command
> 2.0K    /service
> 146M    /
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Re: multimedia/vlc: suddenly no graphical interface

[Gary Jennejohn]

On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 10:46:28 +0100
"O. Hartmann"  wrote:

> On all of my used FreeBSD 9.0-RCX and FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT boxes (all
> amd64 and CLANG compiled), I do not have a graphical user interface in
> VLC anymore. Instead, calling vlc most recent 1.1.11), I get this error:
> 
> VLC media player 1.1.11 The Luggage (revision exported)
> Blocked: call to unsetenv("DBUS_ACTIVATION_ADDRESS")
> Blocked: call to unsetenv("DBUS_ACTIVATION_BUS_TYPE")
> [0x8020521b0] main libvlc: Running vlc with the default interface. Use
> 'cvlc' to use vlc without interface.
> [0x80205ad70] main interface error: option qt-volume-complete does not exist
> [0x80205ad70] skins2 interface error: no suitable dialogs provider found
> (hint: compile the qt4 plugin, and make sure it is loaded properly)
> [0x80205ad70] skins2 interface error: cannot instanciate qt4 dialogs
> provider
> [0x8020521b0] main libvlc error: interface "default" initialization failed
> 
> 
> Recompiling the multimedia/vlc port did not help, also unsuccessful was
> the recompilation of any qt4-port installed on the system. I also tried
> to find the local configuration files in my home directory and delete
> them, without any success.
> 
> Is there something wrong with the DBUS subsystem named in the error?
> 

No, this is what I seea and my GUI works:

VLC media player 1.1.5 The Luggage (revision exported)
Blocked: call to unsetenv("DBUS_ACTIVATION_ADDRESS")
Blocked: call to unsetenv("DBUS_ACTIVATION_BUS_TYPE")
Blocked: call to setlocale(0, "")
Blocked: call to sigaction(20, 0x7f9fbcb0, 0x7f9fbcd0)
[0x801c86b70] qt4 interface error: Unable to load extensions module
Warning: call to rand()
Warning: call to rand()
Warning: call to rand()
Warning: call to rand()
Warning: call to rand()
Blocked: call to sigaction(20, 0x7fffd5e0, 0x7fffd600)
Blocked: call to sigaction(20, 0x7fffd600, 0x0)

The version of vlc which I'm using:

drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Sep  5 14:03 /var/db/pkg/vlc-1.1.5,3

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Re: OH NO! IT says my root partition / is full but it isn't! Why is FreeBSD lying about space?

[Lowell Gilbert]

Try the FAQ entry titled "The du and df commands show different amounts
of disk space available. What is going on?".  You can find it at:
http://be-well.ilk.org/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html#DU-VS-DF
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OH NO! IT says my root partition / is full but it isn't! Why is FreeBSD lying about space?

[rtsit]

Why does it say my main root partition is full when it's not? It's only using 
146 Meg out of a possible 507 Meg


Filesystem   1024-blocks Used Avail 
Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/ad4s1a   507630   495736    -28716   
106%   
 /
devfs  1    1 0   
100%    /dev
/dev/ad4s1e   507630   22    466998 
0%   
 /tmp
/dev/ad4s1f    231510140 42142584 170846746    
20%    /usr
/dev/ad4s1d  2004302   117636   1726322 
6%    /var
# du -hxd1 / 
2.0K    /.snap
512B    /dev
2.0K    /tmp
2.0K    /usr
2.0K    /var
4.3M    /etc
2.0K    /cdrom
2.0K    /dist
990K   
 /bin
127M    /boot
5.9M    /lib
342K    /libexec
2.0K    /media
2.0K    /mnt
2.0K    /proc
3.7M    /rescue
 40K    /root
3.9M    /sbin
2.0K    /command
2.0K    /service
146M    /
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OH NO! Says root partition / is full but it's not! I don't get it

[rtsit]

Why does it say my main root partition is full when it's not? It's only using 
146 Meg out of a possible 507 Meg


Filesystem   1024-blocks Used Avail 
Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/ad4s1a   507630   495736    -28716   
106%    /
devfs  1    1 0   
100%    /dev
/dev/ad4s1e   507630   22    466998 
0%    /tmp
/dev/ad4s1f    231510140 42142584 170846746    
20%    /usr
/dev/ad4s1d  2004302   117636   1726322 
6%    /var
# du -hxd1 / 
2.0K    /.snap
512B    /dev
2.0K    /tmp
2.0K    /usr
2.0K    /var
4.3M    /etc
2.0K    /cdrom
2.0K    /dist
990K    /bin
127M    /boot
5.9M    /lib
342K    /libexec
2.0K    /media
2.0K    /mnt
2.0K    /proc
3.7M    /rescue
 40K    /root
3.9M    /sbin
2.0K    /command
2.0K    /service
146M    /
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Re: Request for Reproduction Rights (Oxford University Press Spain)

[Deb Goodkin]

Dear Noelia,

To receive permission to use the FreeBSD trademarks, please read the 
Trademark Usage Terms and Conditions at:


http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/documents/Guidelines.shtml.

Then send an email to me that states you agree with the document. Also, 
can you please include how you are going to use the trademarks? And, 
include any artwork that you may have.


Let me know if you have any questions.

Sincerely,

Deb Goodkin
Director of Operations
The FreeBSD Foundation

On 11/7/11 8:22 AM, Julian H. Stacey wrote:

Dear Sir,

Hi,
To quote:
http://www.freebsd.org/logo.html
"All images listed under the heading "Resource" are available for
use under license from The FreeBSD Foundation."

which links to
http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/documents/Guidelines.shtml

If you have queries, rather than asking on this questi...@freebsd.org,
(where you will at best just get various personal views),
Try someone here if you want something official
http://freebsdfoundation.org/contact.shtml
eg  board at freebsdfoundation dot org
I added CC for you.



We are a Spanish Publishing House, Oxford University Press Spain, that =
publishes textbooks for Spanish primary and secondary school. We are =
interested in including, in a textbook of secondary education of =
Computing, the logo of FreeBSD.=20

=20

The logo will be reproduce with educational purposes only. Therefore we =
would appreciate if you can tell us these reproductions will cause any =
problem.

I would anticipate no problem (&  still no problem either even if
it was commercial so long as used within spirit of [Free]BSD).
(But that's just my individual off the cuff opinion as a long term BSD person)

PS If you also want to use BSD generic logo
(to refer to class of FreeBSD NetBSD OpenBSD&  other BSDs etc)
that's copyright of Kirk McKusick his contact is here:
http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/daemon.html
You'll find he's also OK no problem, so long as logos only
used appropriately :-)
I added him to CC too.


=20

If there is no problem with the reproduction, please send me by e-mail =
an authorisation and the copyright line to credit you in our textbook.

See
http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/
http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/freebsd-license.html


=20

Thank you very much in advance.

=20

Best regards,

Noelia

=20

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=20

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Fax: +34 91 660 26 29

Cheers,
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Re: Monitor directory and execute script

[Frank Brendel]

||
I think sysutils/wait_on is what you are looking for.



Am 07.11.2011 16:21, schrieb Andrea Venturoli:

On 11/07/11 15:26, Warren Block wrote:

On Mon, 7 Nov 2011, Andrea Venturoli wrote:


I need to check for new or updated files in a directory and execute a
script on them whenever that happens.
Before I launch on complicated scripting, is there some
utility/port/deamon that already does this?


There's devel/gamin.


Thanks for the answer.
AFAICT gamin is a library; from there I'd need to develop some daemon, 
provide rc scripts, etc...


My question was whether such a thing already exists.

 bye
av.
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Re: Request for Reproduction Rights (Oxford University Press Spain)

[Julian H. Stacey]

> Dear Sir,

Hi,
To quote:
http://www.freebsd.org/logo.html
"All images listed under the heading "Resource" are available for
use under license from The FreeBSD Foundation."

which links to
http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/documents/Guidelines.shtml

If you have queries, rather than asking on this questi...@freebsd.org,
(where you will at best just get various personal views),
Try someone here if you want something official
http://freebsdfoundation.org/contact.shtml
eg  board at freebsdfoundation dot org
I added CC for you.


> We are a Spanish Publishing House, Oxford University Press Spain, that =
> publishes textbooks for Spanish primary and secondary school. We are =
> interested in including, in a textbook of secondary education of =
> Computing, the logo of FreeBSD.=20
> 
> =20
> 
> The logo will be reproduce with educational purposes only. Therefore we =
> would appreciate if you can tell us these reproductions will cause any =
> problem.

I would anticipate no problem (& still no problem either even if
it was commercial so long as used within spirit of [Free]BSD).
(But that's just my individual off the cuff opinion as a long term BSD person)

PS If you also want to use BSD generic logo
(to refer to class of FreeBSD NetBSD OpenBSD & other BSDs etc)
that's copyright of Kirk McKusick his contact is here:
http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/daemon.html
You'll find he's also OK no problem, so long as logos only 
used appropriately :-)
I added him to CC too.

> =20
> 
> If there is no problem with the reproduction, please send me by e-mail =
> an authorisation and the copyright line to credit you in our textbook.

See
http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/
http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/freebsd-license.html

> 
> =20
> 
> Thank you very much in advance.
> 
> =20
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Noelia
> 
> =20
> 
> ___
> 
> =20
> 
> Noelia Sacrist=E1n Ruiz
> 
> Departamento de documentaci=F3n
> 
> =20
> 
> Oxford University Press Espa=F1a, S.A.
> 
> Tlf:   +34 91 660 26 00
> 
> Fax: +34 91 660 26 29

Cheers,
Julian
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Re: Monitor directory and execute script

[Andrea Venturoli]

On 11/07/11 15:26, Warren Block wrote:

On Mon, 7 Nov 2011, Andrea Venturoli wrote:


I need to check for new or updated files in a directory and execute a
script on them whenever that happens.
Before I launch on complicated scripting, is there some
utility/port/deamon that already does this?


There's devel/gamin.


Thanks for the answer.
AFAICT gamin is a library; from there I'd need to develop some daemon, 
provide rc scripts, etc...


My question was whether such a thing already exists.

 bye
av.
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Re: Monitor directory and execute script

[Warren Block]

On Mon, 7 Nov 2011, Andrea Venturoli wrote:

I need to check for new or updated files in a directory and execute a script 
on them whenever that happens.
Before I launch on complicated scripting, is there some utility/port/deamon 
that already does this?


There's devel/gamin.
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Re: Monitor directory and execute script

[Tamas Szakaly]

On Mon, Nov 07, 2011 at 02:28:32PM +0100, Andrea Venturoli wrote:
> Hello.
> 
> I need to check for new or updated files in a directory and execute a 
> script on them whenever that happens.
> Before I launch on complicated scripting, is there some 
> utility/port/deamon that already does this?
> 
>   bye & Thanks
>   av.
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hi,
check out sysutils/wait_on!

regards,
sghctoma
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Monitor directory and execute script

[Andrea Venturoli]

Hello.

I need to check for new or updated files in a directory and execute a 
script on them whenever that happens.
Before I launch on complicated scripting, is there some 
utility/port/deamon that already does this?


 bye & Thanks
av.
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Re: Request for Reproduction Rights (Oxford University Press Spain)

[Vincent Hoffman]

On 07/11/2011 11:30, Noelia.Sacristán wrote:
>Dear = Sir,
>
>
>We are a = Spanish Publishing House, Oxford University Press Spain,
>that publishes = textbooks for Spanish primary and secondary school.
>We are interested in = including, in a textbook of secondary education
>of Computing, the logo = of FreeBSD.
>
>
>The logo = will be reproduce with educational purposes only. Therefore
>we would = appreciate if you can tell us these reproductions will
>cause any = problem.
>
>
>If there is = no problem with the reproduction, please send me by
>e-mail an = authorisation and the copyright line to credit you in our
>= textbook.
The current logo is registered to the freebsd foundation, see
http://www.freebsd.org/logo.html

Guidelines on its use can be found at
http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/documents/Guidelines.shtml


Vince


>
><= o:p>
>
>Thank you = very much in advance.
>
>
>Best = regards,
>
>Noelia
>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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Re: poppler-qt-0.16.7

[Koop Mast]

On Mon, 2011-11-07 at 12:28 +0100, n dhert wrote:
> Some changes where done about poppler-*
> There is an entry in /usr/ports/UPDATING about poppler-gtk (which I
> don't
> have), but I do have  poppler-qt (nothing in /usr/ports/UPDATING) ...
> # pkgdb -F
> gives   
> Stale origin: 'graphics/poppler-qt': perhaps moved or obsoleted.
> Skip this for now? [yes] 
> To skip it without asking in future, please list it in HOLD_PKGS.
>  
> Is there a similar instruction for poppler-qt
> and for  portupgrade  (not postmaster which I don't have) ?
> 
> poppler-qt is used here:
> # pkg_info -R poppler-qt-0.16.7
> Information for poppler-qt-0.16.7:
> Required by:
> kdegraphics-3.5.10_9
> 

Oops, I accidently wrote graphics/poppler-qt3 instead of poppler-qt, I
fix that thanks. The poppler support in kdegraphics3 has been disabled
so there isn't any problems.

-Koop

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Re: Get list of ethernet devices

[Michael Ross]

Am 07.11.2011, 02:24 Uhr, schrieb Marco Steinbach  
:



I'd be interested in testing the results (or possible steps thereto) of  
your efforts in creating a customized, bootable FreeBSD USB stick image,  
if that's feasible.




I am not creating an image at all.

What I did is:
- Download memstick image from freebsd.org, copy to stick
- Plug stick and external drive into computer
- Boot from stick, install to external drive

Worked like a charm.

Next I'll create packages from the software on the server,
pkg_info | cut -d " " -f 1 | xargs pkg_create -b
copy them over to the external drive and pkg_add them.

I guess I could just dd the result to another drive, stick or to an image  
file.



Michael
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Re: Get list of ethernet devices

[Michael Ross]

Am 07.11.2011, 02:19 Uhr, schrieb Warren Block :




ifconfig_DEFAULT="DHCP"

It's not well documented.  I'd also suggest using SYNCDHCP as more  
likely to work predictably on unknown equipment.


Wow. That's *a lot* easier than what I came up with.

Thanks!
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poppler-qt-0.16.7

[n dhert]

Some changes where done about poppler-*
There is an entry in /usr/ports/UPDATING about poppler-gtk (which I don't
have), but I do have  poppler-qt (nothing in /usr/ports/UPDATING) ...
# pkgdb -F
gives
Stale origin: 'graphics/poppler-qt': perhaps moved or obsoleted.
Skip this for now? [yes]
To skip it without asking in future, please list it in HOLD_PKGS.

Is there a similar instruction for poppler-qt
and for  portupgrade  (not postmaster which I don't have) ?

poppler-qt is used here:
# pkg_info -R poppler-qt-0.16.7
Information for poppler-qt-0.16.7:
Required by:
kdegraphics-3.5.10_9
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Re: Burning CDs or DVDs with SATA drive?

[Thomas Mueller]

from my previous message:

> Does growisofs work on CDRs or only DVDs?

> If 'cdrecord -scanbus' doesn't work at all, how do I get the "SCSI device" 
> n:n:n?  Use camcontrol?

> I see both FreeBSD and NetBSD have makefs (which can make a UFS/FFS or iso 
> file system, taking the place of mkisofs in cdrtools.  But NetBSD has no CD 
> or DVD burner in the base system.

> I could also try to build cdrkit and see if that works.

At that stage I hadn't looked in the Makefile to see that cdrkit was not an 
option on FreeBSD 9.0 .

So far, I tried cdrecord and readcd only as root, so permissions ought not yet 
to be an issue.

amelia2# camcontrol devlist
at scbus1 target 0 lun 0 (pass0,ada0)
at scbus5 target 0 lun 0 (pass1,cd0)
 at scbus7 target 0 lun 0 (pass2,da0)
   at scbus7 target 0 lun 1 (pass3,ses0)
 at scbus8 target 0 lun 0 (da1,pass4)
   at scbus9 target 0 lun 0 (da2,pass5)


amelia2# readcd dev=5,0,0 sectors=0-0 -
readcd: Device not ready.


I got same results after running "kldload atapicam".  Also,
cdrecord -scanbus didn't work at all.

In Linux, beginning with kernel 2.6, cdrtools work with ATA or IDE CD or DVD 
burners without inserting a SCSI layer.

Maybe I need to build and install growisofs (sysutils/dvd+rw-tools)?

I have /dev/xpt0 even without "kldload atapicam", also /dev/pass*.

cdrtools use "dev=n1,n2,n3", which don't have to be all zero.

I had intended, and still intend, to build a Linux installation, may or may not 
bother with NetBSD.

I want to see what Linux can do that FreeBSD can't, how and if the device 
drivers are superior.

NetBSD has no USB 3.0 support now or in the foreseeable future, and otherwise 
doesn't like my hardware; 
I tried before installing FreeBSD.

Tom

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multimedia/vlc: suddenly no graphical interface

[O. Hartmann]

On all of my used FreeBSD 9.0-RCX and FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT boxes (all
amd64 and CLANG compiled), I do not have a graphical user interface in
VLC anymore. Instead, calling vlc most recent 1.1.11), I get this error:

VLC media player 1.1.11 The Luggage (revision exported)
Blocked: call to unsetenv("DBUS_ACTIVATION_ADDRESS")
Blocked: call to unsetenv("DBUS_ACTIVATION_BUS_TYPE")
[0x8020521b0] main libvlc: Running vlc with the default interface. Use
'cvlc' to use vlc without interface.
[0x80205ad70] main interface error: option qt-volume-complete does not exist
[0x80205ad70] skins2 interface error: no suitable dialogs provider found
(hint: compile the qt4 plugin, and make sure it is loaded properly)
[0x80205ad70] skins2 interface error: cannot instanciate qt4 dialogs
provider
[0x8020521b0] main libvlc error: interface "default" initialization failed


Recompiling the multimedia/vlc port did not help, also unsuccessful was
the recompilation of any qt4-port installed on the system. I also tried
to find the local configuration files in my home directory and delete
them, without any success.

Is there something wrong with the DBUS subsystem named in the error?

Help appreciated,
thanks.

Regards,
Oliver
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Re: painful binary upgrade from 8.1 to 8.2

[Matthew Seaman]

On 06/11/2011 19:25, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
> When following the instructions at 
> 
>   http://www.freebsd.org/releases/8.2R/announce.html
> 
> to go from 8.1 to 8.2, I'm presented during the command:
> 
>   freebsd-update upgrade -r 8.2-RELEASE
> 
> with no less than *** 322 *** files that differ only by the CVS tag.
> 

The tag presumably being $FreeBSD$?  Is it specifically a CVS tag?  As
opposed to a SVN tag?[*]  If the former, then ever since the primary src
repo switched to SVN, all of the files under /etc will get a version
number bump as a consequence of generating a new release even if the
contents didn't change.  Before SVN that didn't happen.

If the files are taken directly from SVN, then I think the revision
number in any file should remain the same in all release branches unless
the file contents are changed.  Perhaps generating freebsd-update
changesets directly out of SVN rather than via CVS would go a long way
to avoiding this problem.

Cheers,

Matthew

[*] The pertinent difference being that CVS has version numbers with one
or more decimal points in them, whilst SVN uses an integer value.

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Re: ntpdate on boot problem

[krad]

On 6 November 2011 02:51, Robert Simmons  wrote:

> On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 7:43 PM, Warren Block  wrote:
> > netwait_enable="YES"
> > netwait_ip="192.168.1.1" # IP address to ping to verify network is up
> > netwait_if="em0" # interface to use
> >
> >
> > Also there's netwait_timeout, which defaults to 60 in
> /etc/defaults/rc.conf.
>
> I've finally got a combination of suggested configurations that get me
> to where I want to be (using ntpd, ntpdate, and netwait).
>
> However, I've found that I still need ntpdate_enable="YES" rather than
> ntpd_sync_on_start="YES".  The reason for this is that I'm running at
> securelevel 3, and ntpd takes too long to get up, running, and sync
> the clock.  By the time it tries to adjust the clock, secure level has
> already been raised preventing the adjustment.
>
> Is there a way to make securelevel wait until ntpd has made its
> adjustments?  When I use ntpdate at this point, it seems like the init
> scripts are sequential, and it waits until ntpdate is done before
> continuing and later raising securelevel.
>
> It seems that even though ntpdate is deprecated that it is still
> required if you want to run securelevel 3.
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Another thing you may want to look at is your switchport config (assuming
its managed), if you are running STP it can take upto a minute for the port
to go into forwarding state after the line is up. You can do two things to
get around this.

1. use rstp instead - this is the better safer way forward. However you may
not have control of the network and could be a big thing to do depending on
your organization.
2. enable portfast on the relevant switches. This is potentially dangerous
as it disables stp and therefore potentially exposes you to switching
loops. However if the port is only ever plugged into on machine and EU dont
play with the cables shold be fine
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