Re: XFCE - how to edit menu ?

2012-03-04 Thread perryh
jb jb.1234a...@gmail.com wrote:

 How can I edit the menus ?
 Also, how to rename Applications Menu to e.g. just Menu as
 it would better reflect applications and system (utilities)
 components ?

 FB9-release, XFCE 4.8

Dunno how FreeBSD's XFCE port does this since I don't use XFCE,
but it could be using x11-wm/wmconfig.  The manpage is reasonably
descriptive.
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Re: sysinstall

2012-03-04 Thread David Walker
Nikola Pavlović nzp at riseup.net
 If you did it the normal way

Please define normal.

As per the way you do it? Surely that's not what you mean right?

As per the handbook?
As per the man pages?

As per the way I usually do it?
I'm new here so I don't have a normal way other than spending hours
reading documentation ... and telling myself that everything that goes
wrong is probably my fault.
That's my normal way when I'm using new software.

That's also my normal way when I'm familiar with something.
Please tell me if that methodology is not as good as yours ...

 with bsdinstall then I guess everything
 would install correctly.

I guess that also.
Please read man sysinstall for me and point out why I should be
guessing whether or not system utilities are intended to function as
described.
Replies to the list are fine.

  But anyway, you can use the other methods
 mentioned in the handbook.

... and anyway, if cp(1) fails I can use dump(8) instead.
Problem solved.

  Doing it with

 # portsnap fetch extract

 seems the most straight forward way to me.

Sysinstall seems the most straight forward way to me.

It might be of interest to you that after spending an hour or so with
sysinstall I proceeded to spend an hour or so with portsnap before it
appeared to work.
My undocumented experience with it and what you apparently consider
are normal and/or straight forward, seem, under the circumstances, of
no import.

If you want to espouse an opposing view without explanation or
ridicule my methodology, knock yourself out but please do it like I'm
your friend.
A simple use portsnap you clown probably would have done it for me
and put a smile on my face.
In my experience that's the normal and most straight forward way
someone who respects me might approach this ...

Best wishes.
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Re: lighttpd + php + external mssql server

2012-03-04 Thread Peter Vereshagin
Hello.

2012/03/03 00:32:40 + Graeme Dargie a...@tangerine-army.co.uk = To 
'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org' :
GD I am just looking for some advice or hints if anyone has a clue how to make 
a FreeBSD server running lighttpd + php5 connect to an instance of MS SQL 2008 
R2.
GD 
GD I have already installed php-extensions for mssql but when I try and run a 
connection from the FreeBSD server it gives a http 500
GD The error log has this
GD 2012-03-02 18:20:09: (mod_fastcgi.c.2699) FastCGI-stderr: PHP Fatal error:  
Call to undefined function mssql_connect() in /usr/local/www/data/
GD 
GD Php -m shows mssql as installed.

1) Command-line php and fastcgi php are able to have a different set of
extensions. Look at the phpinfo() output from your fastcgi if it has an mssql
extension.

2) You may want to try an ODBTP extension for mssql connectivity which supports
mssql features like 'go' clause batch runs and scroll cursors with fetching
from them on the contrast to the 'traditional' dblib-based mssql php extension.

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Re: Running OS tftp vs. pxeboot tftp

2012-03-04 Thread Rick Miller
Hi Erik,

Thanks for getting back to me.  The original problem is the same
issue...we are still working it, but we've isolated the configuration
where the issue manifests itself.  It has to do with the FreeBSD
pxeboot and Brocade switches.  We will continue troubleshooting in our
lab.  When we've identified a fix/workaround I will be sure to follow
up here.

On 3/4/12, Erik Nørgaard norga...@locolomo.org wrote:
 On 01/03/2012 16:16, Rick Miller wrote:
 Hi All,

 Are there significant differences in the implementation between the
 tftp client in FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE and the client implementation in
 pxeboot.bs?

 I have no reason to believe there should be any difference. If you
 believe there is a problem with the supplied pxeboot, you can compile
 your own.

 You previusly wrote about VLAN tagging for your pxeboot nodes, but never
 wrote back if you solved the problem. What's your setup?

 I ask because I have encountered a scenario where pxeboot.bs is
 tftp'ing boot files from a PXE server and fails in random spots while
 attempting to download boot files to start a 8.2-RELEASE install.
 When we run the same sequence of tftp gets in a running 8.2-RELEASE
 instance continuously, we never received a single failure in a solid
 hour of attempts.

 You should have some log or other traces to debug on the problem, can't
 help much without.

 BR, Erik

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Re: PC-BSD on top of FreeBSD - does it matter ?

2012-03-04 Thread jb
Chuck Swiger cswiger at mac.com writes:

 ... 
 There are lots of people who are looking for turnkey / no docs needed 
 systems, with give me simplified choices but handle obvious errors with a 
 nice dialog window or fix-it 'wizard', instead of requiring CLI sysadmin 
 experience, reading error logs, and running diagnostic commands to fix things.
 ...

Well, the PC-BSD team set these goals for themselves:

PC-BSD has as its goals to be an easy-to-install-and-use desktop operating
system, based on FreeBSD. To accomplish this, it provides a graphical
installation to enable even UNIX novices to easily install and get it running.

That's also an obligation to test it.
PC-BSD is a product, by a private company. The burden of proof is on them.

 ... 
 I suspect that the folks who define usability by such criteria are not using 
 FreeBSD (or PC-BSD) at all, or they quickly evaluate it and then move on at 
 the first major showstopper they come across.
 ...

There were many attractive features implemented.
I personally am irritated when I get a software product that breaks on a basic
usability test. The argument that something is offered to me for free and so
I can not expect it to function here and there does not fly with me. That's
a road to nowhere, considering that they do offer it freely.

I will test their next public release in more detail.
I would love to report back words of praise.
jb
   




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Re: PC-BSD on top of FreeBSD - does it matter ?

2012-03-04 Thread Da Rock

On 03/05/12 07:23, jb wrote:

Chuck Swigercswigerat  mac.com  writes:


...
There are lots of people who are looking for turnkey / no docs needed
systems, with give me simplified choices but handle obvious errors with a
nice dialog window or fix-it 'wizard', instead of requiring CLI sysadmin
experience, reading error logs, and running diagnostic commands to fix things.
...

Well, the PC-BSD team set these goals for themselves:

PC-BSD has as its goals to be an easy-to-install-and-use desktop operating
system, based on FreeBSD. To accomplish this, it provides a graphical
installation to enable even UNIX novices to easily install and get it running.

That's also an obligation to test it.
PC-BSD is a product, by a private company. The burden of proof is on them.
PC-BSD is an organisation or group; I wouldn't go as far as calling them 
a private company.



...
I suspect that the folks who define usability by such criteria are not using
FreeBSD (or PC-BSD) at all, or they quickly evaluate it and then move on at
the first major showstopper they come across.
...

There were many attractive features implemented.
I personally am irritated when I get a software product that breaks on a basic
usability test. The argument that something is offered to me for free and so
I can not expect it to function here and there does not fly with me. That's
a road to nowhere, considering that they do offer it freely.

I will test their next public release in more detail.
I would love to report back words of praise.
jb





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Re: PC-BSD on top of FreeBSD - does it matter ?

2012-03-04 Thread Edward M.

On 03/04/2012 12:27 AM, jb wrote:

But ..., the charm disappeared when I (intentionally ?) pulled ethernet plug
and started update manager ...
   Classic example of fallacious reasoning. update manager needs the 
internet to access the updates

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